DavidH, ask Jeff to get the pastor's name and email address and you can ask him directly what he meant. Otherwise, we are jousting at windmills. I would take Jeff's word for it, but he may be using the LDS definitions of the words, thus, not understanding what the pastor is saying.

From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] new revelation
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 16:17:01 -0500




Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus


> [Original Message]
> From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 1/25/2004 1:26:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] new revelation
>
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Dean:
> > As concerning the "Pastors" answer to Jeff-consider: Romans 9:20-29
> > V. 21 Hath not the potter power over the clay,of the same lump to make
> > one vessel unto honor, and another unto dishonor?
> > 22. What if God ,willing to shew his wrath., and to make his power
> > known, endured with much long suffering the vessels of wrath fitted
> > to destruction:
> >
> > In short the Pastor was correct.God said that he had that right-would
> > any here say He doesn't?
>
> DAVEH: I may be misunderstanding you, Dean.....Are you saying God
created mortal beings specifically for the purpose of being burned in hell
to glorify Himself??? That to me seems to portray him as a dictatorial
tyrant, and I would find it hard to think
> any Christian could believes their God of love would be so cruel. Do
other TTers view God in this way??? And, is the attitude Jeff found in the
Baptist preacher commonly believed by Baptists and other Protestants?
Dean writes:
DaveH I am saying that when God throws an un repented sinner into hell-His
glory will be shown by those he saved from that same hell for doing the
same thing those that the wicked were throw in hell for.I suspect this was
what the Pastor was trying to convey to Jeff.
>
> ++++++++++
> Jeff wrote:
> I asked him, "Why would God create somebody to send them to Hell? Did he
know that?
>
> Him: Of course. God is Holy, He is just. He knows everything. That
person was CREATED to give Him glory by going to Hell.
> ++++++++++
>
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