Hi Tim,
It been over a year downloadablemedia.org has been around. I would
like to hear what practical results have been achieved that bring
independent producers closer to advertisers.

Thanks

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Tim Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey Renat,
> 
> I wish I could say that everything you talk about was easy to do and  
> that we could just flip a switch and have it all be perfect and work  
> for every independent producer - but that's just not the way it is.
> 
> There are a few of us that are trying to make several of those things  
> you write about happen for independents but it's going to take time  
> and help from everyone.
> 
> It's easy to complain about the situation but if you are really  
> interested in bringing advertisers and content producers together I  
> urge you to join the Association of Downloadable Media
http://www.downloadablemedia.org/ 
>   and sign up to attend Ad-tech in San Francisco in April 15-17
http://tinyurl.com/3cg6g6
> 
> The ADM will be offering a substantial discount to the event and there  
> will be some steps taken in the direction you are talking about.
> 
> Rome wasn't built at an advertising conference and all are problems  
> won't be solved there either but if you can attend you will be  
> surrounded by other people who want to see independent content  
> creators and advertisers come together.
> 
> 
> Tim Street
> Creator/Executive Producer
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 12, 2008, at 10:44 PM, Renat Zarbailov wrote:
> 
> > Your words are golden Bill. Only good content is king, rather than
> > just any content. Just because content is created doesn't mean it's
> > worth watching.
> >
> > On another note though, I am surprised that none of the companies,
> > including blip, takes notice about what the producers need to monetize
> > online shows, they only look at the scenery of online video from their
> > software programming mindset. And when they flip, they wonder what
> > they did wrong... It's all about usability testing!!! Put yourself in
> > the shoes of the end-user and see if you will resonate to the existing
> > video ad approaches.
> >
> > Big advertising platform creators like Maven networks and Move
> > networks have it tailored for huge Fox-like corporations to be
> > smoothly transforming their traditional TV content to the web.
> > However, there's no company with a practical solution that does that
> > for the independent producers. Does that mean that the future of
> > online video advertising is only for the established TV brands? Why
> > can't independent content producers establish an alliance that works
> > with advertisers directly? There needs to be an RSS video ad approach
> > for this to work. If there's any Adobe Flex programmers reading this
> > they should take notice that this is where online video can prosper
> > benefiting all. Similar to Google's Adwords this RSS feed would
> > automatically embed itself to the most watched episode of an online
> > show, hence advertisers are happy that the ad is seen by many. Also
> > URL hotspots in the video is also essential for product placement for
> > new tab opening when the end-user clicks on it.
> >
> > What are your thoughts on this?
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Cammack" <billcammack@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > While I respect what he's saying, because he's the one with the
> > > company that deals with the business end of making money off of  
> > people
> > > that make videos, I don't think "lack of content" is the problem  
> > here.
> > >
> > > The problem *now* is what I've BEEN saying the problem is, which is
> > > that without a way to figure out whether suburban males with lawns
> > > that are likely to buy a lawnmower are tuning in to your show, you
> > > can't sell advertising to lawnmower manufacturers.
> > >
> > > To say that there isn't enough content for companies to advertise on
> > > doesn't take into account that there's tons of content that NOBODY
> > > wants to advertise on because of lack of perceived ROI.
> > >
> > > That's what's so funny about this video "boom". People are rushing  
> > to
> > > make a site where people are going to get on the bandwagon and  
> > upload
> > > UGC and they think they're going to make all this money from it,  
> > when
> > > in reality, they don't know JACK about video, they don't know JACK
> > > about building, growing and maintaining an audience, they don't know
> > > JACK about creating, advertising or moderating a social site... All
> > > they know is that "there's gold in them thar hills"! :D
> > >
> > > Get them a pan.
> > >
> > > There's CONTENT being made every single day, just on youtube alone.
> > > The point is that none of it's monetizable because you can't tell
> > > who's clicking on it, and unless you're willing to do some form of
> > > shotgun advertising where you know a show gets 200,000 views per  
> > week
> > > and you're willing to take a chance on them, it's not CONTENT you
> > > want, but GOOD content, NICHE content and content you're likely to  
> > see
> > > ROI from.
> > >
> > > Bill Cammack
> > > http://BillCammack.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Renat Zarbailov" <innomind@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Here is Hilmi Ozguc (of Maven Networks) talking about the future  
> > of
> > > > video advertising.
> > > >
> > > >
http://wbztv.com/consumer/technology/MITX.Social.Media.2.584567.html
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy!
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
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