On 05/27/2011 07:50 PM, Charles Hope wrote:
I suppose we are all somewhere on the conservative/crank spectrum. I think 
physics is a difficult place for novel thought because the current models are 
so excellent. Yet mysteries do remain. However I didn't know that Cooper pairs 
was one of them.


But I see the difficulty in our communication. I take epistemic issue with the 
idea that there can be a mathematical model without true understanding. If we 
have a model, it behooves us to twist our minds into understanding that! There 
is no understanding but the use of a valid model.

Exactly. And once you understood it, you stick with it because "it just works". You almost never question it at the philosophical or epistemological level. During most of the last century, there was a lot of confusion, introduced by Relativity theory, about the concept of time, by example.

The case of the aether is also paradigmatic: when the results of some experiments were not the expected ones, the aether was disregarded, and relativity theories appeared. Nobody, or almost nobody, took the time to reflect at the philosophical level on what had happened, and as a consequence, a lot of confusion ensued. What had happened was that the mechanical model of the aether was found to be false by experiment. As a replacement, purely mathematical models were quickly introduced, which agreed with the experiments. But those models were now devoid of physical meaning. Just the general idea of "relativity", and of "all is relative" popped up, and stuck like a grand revelation. That happened during most of the last century, and is still happening. That philosophical thinking is still lacking, and it's coming from outsiders like me, because "real scientists" are so busy trying to understand the math first, and to apply for grants and publish later, that they don't have time to really reflect and think.

Philosophy was disregarded(a big mistake) in the name of results and predictive power. The other consequence of the increasing complexity and the quest for results was super-specialization. You have to be an expert to be able to talk with authority and understanding about something. And when you finally study to be an expert in one field, you cannot talk about anything else! Moreover: you mostly lost the ability to relate and correlate knowledge from different fields of knowledge.

That is an unfortunate state of affairs, and we can say that a great part of the decadence of the western culture we experience today is related to our urge for control only from the mechanistic perspective.

Regards,
Mauro

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