People are revolting, but they will start to revolt...
On Thursday, March 19, 2020, James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> wrote:
> are you saying that you're not revolting now? Makes me think of the 3
> Stooges line "I resemble that remark"......
>
> Oh wait. Did you mean that people will start to revolt? Hmmm.... I
> thought you meant people were going to be revolting and most people already
> are.....
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2020 8:37:51 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies
>
> Yeah, you can't have businesses closed past then or you're going to have
> people revolting (myself included).
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 3:43 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The isolation can not last more than a few weeks, or maybe a month -
>> month and a half. At that point, we should have reduced the number of
>> walking infections without symptoms, and maybe have the ability to actually
>> test for it. After that, it's a crap shoot.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 3/19/2020 1:18 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>
>> With "flatten the curve" as your primary tool expected to take years and
>> people only able to half pay attention for a few weeks, we'll have to find
>> something else.
>>
>>
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>> *From: *"Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> <part15...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *af@af.afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Thursday, March 19, 2020 2:54:45 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies
>>
>> The "plan" (no jokes please) seems to be short term isolation to try and
>> flatten the curve. With that, all the infected people not having symptoms
>> will become immune (to some extent) and no longer be contagious. I don't
>> think we can keep people bottled up for more than a few weeks.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 3/19/2020 12:49 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>
>> Has anybody laid out what the long term plan is?
>>
>> We can't keep everybody at home forever and we can't stop all
>> international trade and travel so sooner or later the virus has to run it's
>> course, or so it seems to me.
>>
>> I know we're trying to slow down the spread so we don't overwhelm the
>> hospital capacity and that's great. Are we going to somehow reduce social
>> isolation over time in a controlled way, or will social isolation end
>> organically as people get sick of staying home?
>>
>>
>> On 3/19/2020 3:16 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> I dont know how many times i need to point out this logic
>>
>> The US is undercounted, thats a given. undercounting does not equate
>> hidden numbers of magnitude
>>
>> Heres the logic thats completely being ignored
>>
>> The deaths associated with COVID19 that werent tested would have been
>> attributed to flu
>> There has been no reported increase in flu deaths per the anticipated
>> rates this year
>>
>> The testing that has been done is very promising. Yesterdays counts of
>> those tested were running around 8 percent positive. This does NOT equate
>> to 8 percent of the population. The "administration bad, nobody can just go
>> get a test for curiousity" argument further strengthens this as a promising
>> number. The ONLY people being tested for the most part, are those in the
>> very high probability category. So of those assumed to be infected, only 8
>> percent of them actually are.
>>
>> We still havent hit globally the number of infections and deaths from the
>> swine flu in the US alone. let me reiterate this GLOBALLY TODAY, there are
>> less sick and dead, than from swine flu in the US ALONE. The current
>> response is such that has never been seen in the history of the planet.
>>
>> Inmates are an issue, with a guard and an inmate at rikers island
>> infected now, we have a national issue. if we dump the prisons, not only do
>> we have a ton of criminals on the street, we have hundreds of thousands of
>> indigent on the streets in the middle of a pandemic. (maybe not having
>> locked up such a percentage of the population in the first place is a whole
>> other OT rant). Iran dumped 70k inmates on the streets, i cant imagine that
>> having helped their situation.
>>
>> Morons on spring break making a point of interacting even more than they
>> normally would have is illogical enough to eliminate any logic.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:00 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know that Russia's numbers are terribly inaccurate... it's
>>> really just starting to spread there now, and the numbers aren't far off
>>> what other countries reported early on, and the cases they have reported
>>> are almost all in Moscow. They also have much tighter border controls than
>>> most of the world, and they're going on lockdown earlier into the outbreak
>>> than most countries did... so it's not unbelievable that they'd have low
>>> numbers at this point.
>>>
>>> But who knows what's really going on in some of these countries... it
>>> certainly wouldn't surprise me if China is lying about their numbers, it
>>> all depends on what they think is in their best interests at this point,
>>> and I don't trust any information from or about North Korea, no matter what
>>> the source is, but the high level of government control over everything in
>>> North Korea could certainly give them an advantage in this situation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 1:42 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Russia, India, Mexico. I heard something on
>>>> NPR this morning about mass graves in Iran. It may be years (or never)
>>>> before we understand the scope of this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/19/2020 11:37 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I still believe North Korea has a huge problem that they are covering
>>>> up. Especially in the labor camps. Communal sleeping barns etc. No
>>>> sanitation facilities.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2020 12:34 PM
>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Only if they attribute it properly. There is plenty of data to indicate
>>>> that deaths have been incorrectly attributed,
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/19/2020 11:09 AM, James Howard wrote:
>>>>
>>>> the death count is the death count
>>>>
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