It's especially bad when revolting people revolt...
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:01 PM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
> People are revolting, but they will start to revolt...
>
> On Thursday, March 19, 2020, James Howard <ja...@litewire.net> wrote:
>
>> are you saying that you're not revolting now? Makes me think of the 3
>> Stooges line "I resemble that remark"......
>>
>> Oh wait. Did you mean that people will start to revolt? Hmmm.... I
>> thought you meant people were going to be revolting and most people already
>> are.....
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>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2020 8:37:51 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies
>>
>> Yeah, you can't have businesses closed past then or you're going to have
>> people revolting (myself included).
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 3:43 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The isolation can not last more than a few weeks, or maybe a month -
>>> month and a half. At that point, we should have reduced the number of
>>> walking infections without symptoms, and maybe have the ability to actually
>>> test for it. After that, it's a crap shoot.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/19/2020 1:18 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>
>>> With "flatten the curve" as your primary tool expected to take years and
>>> people only able to half pay attention for a few weeks, we'll have to find
>>> something else.
>>>
>>>
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>>> *From: *"Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> <part15...@gmail.com>
>>> *To: *af@af.afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Thursday, March 19, 2020 2:54:45 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies
>>>
>>> The "plan" (no jokes please) seems to be short term isolation to try and
>>> flatten the curve. With that, all the infected people not having symptoms
>>> will become immune (to some extent) and no longer be contagious. I don't
>>> think we can keep people bottled up for more than a few weeks.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/19/2020 12:49 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>>
>>> Has anybody laid out what the long term plan is?
>>>
>>> We can't keep everybody at home forever and we can't stop all
>>> international trade and travel so sooner or later the virus has to run it's
>>> course, or so it seems to me.
>>>
>>> I know we're trying to slow down the spread so we don't overwhelm the
>>> hospital capacity and that's great. Are we going to somehow reduce social
>>> isolation over time in a controlled way, or will social isolation end
>>> organically as people get sick of staying home?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/19/2020 3:16 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> I dont know how many times i need to point out this logic
>>>
>>> The US is undercounted, thats a given. undercounting does not equate
>>> hidden numbers of magnitude
>>>
>>> Heres the logic thats completely being ignored
>>>
>>> The deaths associated with COVID19 that werent tested would have been
>>> attributed to flu
>>> There has been no reported increase in flu deaths per the anticipated
>>> rates this year
>>>
>>> The testing that has been done is very promising. Yesterdays counts of
>>> those tested were running around 8 percent positive. This does NOT equate
>>> to 8 percent of the population. The "administration bad, nobody can just go
>>> get a test for curiousity" argument further strengthens this as a promising
>>> number. The ONLY people being tested for the most part, are those in the
>>> very high probability category. So of those assumed to be infected, only 8
>>> percent of them actually are.
>>>
>>> We still havent hit globally the number of infections and deaths from
>>> the swine flu in the US alone. let me reiterate this GLOBALLY TODAY, there
>>> are less sick and dead, than from swine flu in the US ALONE. The current
>>> response is such that has never been seen in the history of the planet.
>>>
>>> Inmates are an issue, with a guard and an inmate at rikers island
>>> infected now, we have a national issue. if we dump the prisons, not only do
>>> we have a ton of criminals on the street, we have hundreds of thousands of
>>> indigent on the streets in the middle of a pandemic. (maybe not having
>>> locked up such a percentage of the population in the first place is a whole
>>> other OT rant). Iran dumped 70k inmates on the streets, i cant imagine that
>>> having helped their situation.
>>>
>>> Morons on spring break making a point of interacting even more than they
>>> normally would have is illogical enough to eliminate any logic.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:00 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know that Russia's numbers are terribly inaccurate... it's
>>>> really just starting to spread there now, and the numbers aren't far off
>>>> what other countries reported early on, and the cases they have reported
>>>> are almost all in Moscow. They also have much tighter border controls than
>>>> most of the world, and they're going on lockdown earlier into the outbreak
>>>> than most countries did... so it's not unbelievable that they'd have low
>>>> numbers at this point.
>>>>
>>>> But who knows what's really going on in some of these countries... it
>>>> certainly wouldn't surprise me if China is lying about their numbers, it
>>>> all depends on what they think is in their best interests at this point,
>>>> and I don't trust any information from or about North Korea, no matter what
>>>> the source is, but the high level of government control over everything in
>>>> North Korea could certainly give them an advantage in this situation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 1:42 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Russia, India, Mexico. I heard something on
>>>>> NPR this morning about mass graves in Iran. It may be years (or never)
>>>>> before we understand the scope of this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/19/2020 11:37 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I still believe North Korea has a huge problem that they are covering
>>>>> up. Especially in the labor camps. Communal sleeping barns etc. No
>>>>> sanitation facilities.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2020 12:34 PM
>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Only if they attribute it properly. There is plenty of data to
>>>>> indicate that deaths have been incorrectly attributed,
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/19/2020 11:09 AM, James Howard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> the death count is the death count
>>>>>
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