Phil Leigh;543646 Wrote: > What Sean said was very clear... any attenuation increases the noise > floor/decreases the SNR. That's all. Did he say you could ALWAYS hear > it? - NO. He expressed no opinion on that AFAIK. > > You keep talking about "loss" - loss of what? > Mathematically until you shift past the 16th bit in the 20-bit > effective window you haven't "lost" anything except SNR. > >
As soon as you shift down (filling the top end with zeros) you are basically throwing away dynamic range. I call it lost (or under utilized dynamic range that you have available). Call it what ever you like. Correct, Sean does not say how much difference you would actually hear. Just that those 8 bits attenution is not free. There is good reason CD's are 16bit. And why people (even on this forum) think more than 16bits (up to 20) sounds even better. But according to you it's impossible to hear even 16bits. Why bother having DACs that can even do 20bits. Just so you can turn down the freaken volume in digital. I don't think so !!! According to you 12bits is plenty. 6dB is 1 bit. That's a lot out of 16bits. Now if we were talking 20 vs 21 bits it would be different. But 15 vs 16bits. I'll take my 16bits thank you very much. A lot of CD's are not full scale either. There is another bit or so gone. So now on some CD's it's 14 vs 15 bits I'm hearing a difference in. Unless I use something like Replay Gain to bring back up ut back up to full scale. Which I'm think of using. But there are some complications with that in Meridian world (other benefits I don't wish to lose). I could share how to actually compare things but you'll just fight that tooth and nail on that too. So I won't bother. It would be too much of shock for this croud. Enjoy the tunes. -- mswlogo XP > Cat5 > Transporter/DuetController > SPDIF > Meridian G68 > DSP6000, DSP5500HC, DSP5000 XP > Cat5 > SB3 > SPDIF > Meridian DSP5000 XP > Cat5 > DuetReceiver > SPDIF > Meridian G91 > DSP5000 'My Transporter Setup' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=350741&postcount=45) 'Hitch Hikers Guide to Meridian' (http://www.meridianunplugged.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77725 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
