>>>>> "Gunther" == Gunther Birznieks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Gunther> A lecture format is great for spreading the word at the
Gunther> conferences, but hands-on training would be even better. Or
Gunther> perhaps there isn't a demand for mod_perl training in which
Gunther> case I guess that's a business decision.

Hmm.  I guess I can speak to that. :)

I have seen that hands-on gets the stuff to stick longer, and also has
people ask more intelligent questions later in the course.  So I agree
with you there... I think people would get more out of a hands-on
course than a lecture seminar.

But here's the reality of trainings.  You need to get 10 to 20 people
in a room at the same time that are all starting roughly at the same
skill level and also want to end up in the same place.  And then you
need to do that about 8 to 20 times with the same slide set before you
break even, because the cost of producing the materials is pretty
high: figure one to three DAYS of research for every HOUR of face time
in the classroom.

I can't figure out where the "start" and "finish" are with mod_perl
that would make sense for 80 to 400 people.  It's not core techology,
like the llama.  We target the llama as how you would want ANY perl
hacker to spend their first 30 hours.  But what 20-30 hours are
*common* for any mod_perl hacker?  And what do you do for pre-reqs?

Training is a tough business.  I've been damn lucky, and moderately
skilled to have had the privilege to train thousands of satisfied
customers, and sell hundreds of thousands of book.  And I'd love to
see more mod_perl hackers out there.  But it's gotta make sense to me
financially before I commit resources to it.  I'm a small business.  I
can't absorb training at a loss for very long.

Hope that helps you see what you need to tell me to get me to do this.
(nudge nudge)
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