Tommy, Can you tell me what happened to Gays/Lesbians in the military prior to DADT ?
Can you tell me exactly what is different now from before DADT ? Lets have a REAL discussion. On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > Again, Keith, your homophobia is showing. > Most gays do not fit your homophobic stereotypic ideas of flamboyancy > and transgenderism. Many, in fact, are more "macho" and muscular than > many heterosexuals, and that is especially true among lesbians, who I > love and respect deeply. > > Gays already serve, and make fine, well behaved, heroic soldiers, and > are well practiced at hiding and surpressing their sexuality, unlike > many straight soldiers > who go around bragging about thier sexual conquests, being vulgar, and > showing sometimes lewed "affection" in public. > > The existing Military Code of Conduct will be more than adequate for > any isolated behavioral incidents which may arise. > > > > On 12/19/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > No question, I see this issue from a different perspective than I believe > > most do here in HP. > > > > I don't see the DADT repeal as being all that significant, and although I > > agree with Rob and his assessment, I also think that there is a major > > component to all of this, that Rob, or anyone else in the group has > touched > > upon. > > > > The military does not allow for ANYONE, and this will include > heterosexuals > > as well as homosexuals, to wear their sexuality openly, or to broadcast > > their sexual likes or dislikes publicly. In other words, NO ONE in the > > military can be or will be identified by their sexual proclivities or > sexual > > identification, which is a common factor in the Gay community. This is > > where so many in the Gay community are mistaken. > > > > The military will boot out a service member who is an admitted > > adulterer. Service members who are into any type of > > sado-masochistic activities and make them public will be summarily > > discharged. Those service members who are into "swinging" and have > multiple > > sexual partners, and who make that aspect of their lives public, will be > > shown the door and discharged. All branches of the service will not > > condone any member who bases his or her lifestyle upon their sexual > > identiy. > > > > Nothng has changed. > > > > Just as important, the military does in fact have and embrace a "Macho" > > image. This is requisite for combat. Yes, there are women in the service > > but not in combat arms. The lifestyle is tough, rugged and most of the > time > > uncomfortable. The stereotypical Gay male will not be condoned. The > combat > > units of the Army and Marines are all male and all the males talk about > > doing their girl friends as they charge the enemy with cigars hanging out > > their mouths; not penises. This is the image that our military > > cultivates. It is good for morale, it is good for unit cohesiveness, and > > most importantly, it is but one component of what makes our military the > > mightiest in the world. Again, this image is not going to change. > > > > -- > > Thanks for participating in the Google Group, Historical Pictorial, which > is > > the premiere men's forum on the web; focusing on historical media, and > > discussions of contemporary issues as well as our chronicled past! > > > > For options and help, please visit the group at: > > http://groups.google.com/group/Historical-Pictoral > > > > > -- > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > Have a great day, > Tommy > > > > -- > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > Have a great day, > Tommy > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -- Mark M. Kahle H. -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
