Hi There,

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 03:41:46PM -0600, Jason Grout wrote:
> mark mcclure wrote:
> > On Nov 23, 3:30 pm, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> That is true.  In fact, I hope in the proposal to not insult or snub
> >> non-free commercial software either.
> > 
> > But William, just two days ago on sage-support you wrote:
> > "Let's put Mathworks out of business."
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support/browse_thread/thread/b56450bab6d43bf7/a82a770db1abd6dc#msg_d72f94b7ff856c29
> > 
> > So I wonder, what is your true feeling on this matter?
> > 
> > To be clear, I am not attempting to be inflammatory.
> > I have been genuinely interested in Sage for a couple
> > years and have used it for real mathematics sporadically.
> > I could even imagine jumping into Sage development but I
> > have been *very* put off by the outright hostile stance
> > frequently expressed towards the commercial systems on
> > the sage discussion groups.  
> 
> 
> Let it be clear that the opinion expressed above is William's opinion 
> (maybe in a moment of frustration about the patent business?).  I have a 
> lot of respect for Cleve and what he's done, and don't feel like my 
> purpose for involvement is to put Mathworks out of business.  In fact 
> (as William has expressed elsewhere about commercial software), I'm 
> *glad* that Mathworks is dumping (millions of?) dollars into math 
> software development.  That's a great thing for mathematics and 
> mathematics software.  Patenting some of the (obvious?) things they've 
> patented makes me sad, though.

Speaking specifically about Mathworks, I just want to recall what happen
to MuPAD:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MuPAD

"In September 2008, Sciface was purchased by Mathworks and the Mupad code was
included in the Symbolic Math Toolbox add-on for MATLAB. On 28 September 2008,
Mupad was withdrawn from market as a software product in its own right."

See:

    http://www.mathworks.com/support/faq/mupad.html

In the operation, several friend there lost their job (actually this in not
Mathworks fault and probably the result of Sciface being bought by Mathworks is
that some of them keep their job)...

I'm not sure anyone in this sharks market will care a cent about putting sage
down...Now, though I completely agree with sage goal, I don't feel very
comfortable with the motto:
   "open source alternative to Magma, Maple, Mathematica, and MATLAB."

I clearly speaks about competition from the beginning...

Just my two cents...

Cheers,

Florent

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