Re: J2EE session replication -- application replication?

[Nick de Voil]

> What I'm really wondering if there's a way to get something like J2EE
> session replication for the application scope.

I've wondered this too, but it seems that, because application data is part
of the servlet context, and the servlet context is unique to each JVM, there
is no built-in way to do this envisioned by the Servlet API. Frustrating and
counterintuitive that you can replicate session data but not application
data.

I imagine that an elegant solution might be achieved with JMS? but have no
experience of using this with CF.

Nick



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RE: CFINCLUDE of CGI pages

[Hugo Ahlenius]

Try cfhttp instead, it needs a request through the web-server to execute
the CGI-script. Think of CGI:s as a webservice.





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Re: Java 1.4.1 CFMXJ2EE for JRun Mac OS X

[Christian Cantrell]

On Monday, March 24, 2003, at 11:32 PM, Dick Applebaum wrote:

> Sean
>
> Where does one start to resolve this?

Start here:

http://markme.com/cantrell/weblog/index.cfm?m=3&d=25&y=2003

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RE: Request for Review: "Variables in CFML

[Jim Davis]

> -Original Message-
> From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:35 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Request for Review: "Variables in CFML
> 
> 
> On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 18:58 US/Pacific, Jim Davis wrote:
> >> Yes, since you can use J2EE session variables and leverage the 
> >> scalability of the underlying J2EE system.
> > So how does this actually work across a cluster?
> 
> See my blog:
> 
http://www.corfield.org/blog/archives/2003_01.html#55

and the immediately preceding few articles on how to set it all up!


So lemme check for understanding here:

Unless we specifially set up buddies sessions act just like they always
did.  (Server dies, session dies)

When you DO set up buddies ALL session traffic (updates, creates, etc)
are maintained on both/all buddies in REAL TIME.  So a server goes down,
another server has that data.

Meaning this isn't a performance solution (allowing any server in a
cluster to use any session from another) but a stability/reliabilty
solution (preventing angry people when servers go belly-up).

So in a normal, simple (ignorant) cluster network traffic between the
boxes is pretty minimal.  But in a session-sharing buddy cluster network
traffic can be very high between the servers.  I'm assuming that session
mirroring is working in real-time for the best possible disaster
response and not caching or otherwise delaying updates.  Right?

All this only works with J2EE sessions, not with regular old
CFTOKEN/CFID sessions.

Have I got it or did I miss the boat (again)?

Thanks in advance.  A damn fine Director of Architecture you are.

Jim Davis


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J2EE session replication -- application replication?

[S . Isaac Dealey]

What I'm really wondering if there's a way to get something like J2EE
session replication for the application scope. Storing data which doesn't
vary between users in session variables would not only needlessly soak up
memory, but it also has the potential to leave some (many) users with old or
bad data in the session scope if the shared information changes.

So the problem occurs (and this is why I need something like session
replication) when I'm cacheing data in the application scope which was
pulled from a db which is shared amongst several coppies of an application
installed on different servers in a cluster. Because the data changes
infrequently (and requires some massaging after being retreived from the
db), it's stored in the application scope, but when it's updated in the db
it then has to be refreshed in the application scope. If I'm using the
standard application scope for the server then the problem is that if I
delete the data or refresh the data on the machine from which the update was
made, any of the remaining servers in the cluster which have cached the data
now have outdated data and no way of knowing it's outdated.

I know that there are ways I can force the data to be refreshed on the other
machines even without being able to replicate the application scope, by
storing a list of the servers in the cluster in the db and using cfhttp to
send information to each of the clustered servers, but this is rather
obtrusive and probably slow, so I'm really hoping for a graceful
alternative. Even with something like cached queries, I normally use code
like (pseudocode):







...


This way when I know that the data has changed and I need to refresh the
query I simply set the value of the application variable to Now() as in:





And viola -- the cached query is refreshed. The problem is that if this
application is in a cluster, again, the only way to update the cachedafter
value on all of the servers in the cluster without something similar to J2EE
session replication is to write a rather complex and probably slow
sub-application to handle application data across the cluster.

> On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 18:58 US/Pacific, Jim Davis
> wrote:
>>> Yes, since you can use J2EE session variables and
>>> leverage the
>>> scalability of the underlying J2EE system.
>> So how does this actually work across a cluster?

> See my blog:

> http://www.corfield.org/blog/archives/2003_01.html#55

> and the immediately preceding few articles on how to set
> it all up!


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Re: Cache-control: no-cache

[Sean A Corfield]

Cache-control is an HTTP/1.1 header; the Pragma: no-cache is an 
HTTP/1.0 hack. If you're only dealing with proxy servers that support 
HTTP/1.1, you're better off with Cache-control. However, you need to 
think about cookies etc so that the proxy server won't be too 
aggressive. The following is probably safer:

Cache-control: no-cache="set-cookie,set-cookie2"

On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 17:32 US/Pacific, joe hobson wrote:

> I've had trouble with bad proxy configurations lately. In the past 
> I've used
> the "Pragma:no-cache" http header (via CFHeader) but had problems with
> browsers seeing pages as expired. Recently someone suggested using
> "Cache-control: no-cache" to tell the proxy server not to cache the 
> page.
> Can anyone out there see a problem adding the following to my
> Application.cfm so that _none_ of the pages are cached?
>
> 
>
> Sounds easy enough. I've tested that code via MS Proxy 2.0 (one that's
> giving me problems) and it seems to clear it up. What problems could I 
> run
> into in other areas or in the future?
>
> Thanks in advance. . . . . . .. . .joe

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Re: Java 1.4.1 CFMXJ2EE for JRun Mac OS X

[Sean A Corfield]

On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 20:32 US/Pacific, Dick Applebaum wrote:
> Where does one start to resolve this?

If I knew, I would've resolved it (and posted a solution on my blog).

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Re: Request for Review: "Variables in CFML

[Sean A Corfield]

On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 09:30 US/Pacific, Bryan Stevenson wrote:
> Could someone explain the benefit of holding CFCs in a session var?  
> Say in
> the case of security or identifying details about a logged in user.

Instead of having, say, half a dozen separate session variables holding 
information about a user, just have a CFC user.cfc and have it keep all 
that data internally (in the unnamed scope as instance data) and 
provide methods to manipulate it. It's really about the clarity of your 
model, keeping all your user state and user admin functions together in 
a CFC.

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Re: Request for Review: "Variables in CFML

[Sean A Corfield]

On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 11:18 US/Pacific, Matt Robertson wrote:
[snip experience with session vars]

Hmm, sounds like you (and others) have been burned by pre-MX CF in this 
area... I didn't realize it was that bad...

> Question: CFMX uses J2EE's session variables.  I'm not up on this at
> all, but doesn't that mean I have to be using the much more expensive
> Enterprise for J2EE?

Depends what you want to do exactly. All versions of CF let you use 
J2EE Session Variables. Not all versions let you set up J2EE clustering 
and session replication. In fact, if you want the full monty, so to 
speak, you need CFMX for J2EE (so that you can leverage all the J2EE 
session stuff). However, even with CFMX Pro you get stable J2EE 
sessions using the built-in version of JRun.

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Re: Request for Review: "Variables in CFML

[Sean A Corfield]

On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 18:58 US/Pacific, Jim Davis wrote:
>> Yes, since you can use J2EE session variables and leverage the
>> scalability of the underlying J2EE system.
> So how does this actually work across a cluster?

See my blog:

http://www.corfield.org/blog/archives/2003_01.html#55

and the immediately preceding few articles on how to set it all up!


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Re: Java 1.4.1 CFMXJ2EE for JRun Mac OS X

[Dick Applebaum]

Sean

Where does one start to resolve this?

Dick

On Monday, March 24, 2003, at 08:28  PM, Sean A Corfield wrote:

> On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 17:58 US/Pacific, Dick Applebaum wrote:
>> Has anyone got CFMXJ2EE for JRun and JRun for  Mac OSX to run with
>> Apple's Java 1..4.1 JVM?
>
> Nope. It resolutely tells me "Error: Unable to find JVM" when I try to
> use the 1.4.1 JRE. So I'm still running it locally with 1.3.1.
>
> Sean
>
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Re: Java 1.4.1 CFMXJ2EE for JRun Mac OS X

[Sean A Corfield]

On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 17:58 US/Pacific, Dick Applebaum wrote:
> Has anyone got CFMXJ2EE for JRun and JRun for  Mac OSX to run with
> Apple's Java 1..4.1 JVM?

Nope. It resolutely tells me "Error: Unable to find JVM" when I try to 
use the 1.4.1 JRE. So I'm still running it locally with 1.3.1.

Sean

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Re: CFMX Upgrade Issue and Solution

[Sean A Corfield]

CFMX uses different database drivers to CF5 and different drivers allow 
/ disallow different SQL syntax...

On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 11:24 US/Pacific, Dave Sueltenfuss wrote:

> Good afternoon,
>
> I just upgraded my production web server to CFMX Pro this past 
> weekend, and
> encountered an interesting error I wished to share with the group
>
> On of the functions that we use CF for is web based reporting from the
> Lawson Financial Package, including a PO Printout form. Before the 
> upgrade,
> the PO Print worked without any issues. After the upgrade, certain PO's
> would not printout for us, and instead returned the following error.
>
> Error Executing Database Query.[MERANT][SequeLink JDBC Driver][ODBC
> Socket][Oracle][ODBC]Restricted data type attribute violation. The 
> specific
> sequence of files included or processed is:
> C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\Dev\Lawson\poscreen.cfm
> As you can see, the error message does not make much sense. We went so 
> far
> as to restore the Test server to CF 5 and make sure that the page 
> worked
> properly on the previous version. After much research, we found that 
> the
> error was linked to the case statement below.
>
> CASE
> when lawson.poline.taxable_flag = 'Y' Then
> (((lawson.poline.tax_code/100)*lawson.poline.taxbl_unt_cst)*
> lawson.poline.quantity)
> End  as taxamt
>
> The statement above does not include an else statement. For some 
> reason, CF
> 5 Pro did not care about this, but CF MX was returning an error, even 
> though
> the page compiled fine.  Once the else statement was added, the 
> problem went
> away.
>
> I just wanted to share this issue and solution with the group, in case
> anyone else comes across a similar issue
>
> Any questions, please let me know
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave Sueltenfuss
> Application Developer
> Arch Wireless
> Phone: 508-870-6711
> Fax: 508-870-8011
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Re: CFMX cannot handle charset for URL variables

[Sean A Corfield]

On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 11:31 US/Pacific, Murat Demirci wrote:
>  url="url.cfm?text=#URLEncodedFormat(myUnicodeText,"utf-8")#">
> But why URLEncodedFormat doesn't use the utf-8 by default? Or why
> setEncoding("URL","UTF-8") function doesn't affect the URLEncodedFormat
> function?

Backward compatibility? Did URLEncodedFormat(text) in CF5 just produce 
a URL-encoded text (non-unicode) string?

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RE: CFMAIL frying on content type assignment?

[Matt Robertson]

That not only didn't break, but cfmx rendered a proper utf-8-headered text/html 
mailpiece from it.  Thanks!  Now I have to see whether this has any effect on CF 4.5x 
generated mail.  One way or another its a solution.

Cheers,

---
 Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
---


-- Original Message --
From: "Matthew Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:54:11 +1200

>This seems to work: 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2003 2:49 p.m.
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: CFMAIL frying on content type assignment?
>
>Matthew wrote:
>>Try "ISO-8859-1" - MX seems to be a bit fussy about that in 
>>some areas.
>
>Nope.  Same error.  Good idea, though.  If I remove the code it works fine.
>Am I doing something obviously wrong here with regard to the encoding?  I'll
>have to check but I could swear this code has been in place for awhile and
>running fine.  The only thing I can figure is different is Updater 3.
>
>---
> Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
>---
>
>
>-- Original Message --
>From: "Matthew Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:31:59 +1200
>
>>Try "ISO-8859-1" - MX seems to be a bit fussy about that in some areas.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2003 2:33 p.m.
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: CFMAIL frying on content type assignment?
>>
>>I could swear it didn't used to do this prior to Updater 3, but I'm not
>>sure.  In my cfmail messages, I set the following variable:
>>
>>
>>
>>so I can in turn plug it in to this cfmailparam:
>>
>>
>>
>>Fine and dandy.  Unfortunately I'm now finding this is blowing up on CFMX.
>>I get:
>>
>>The cause of this output exception was that:
>>java.io.UnsupportedEncodingException: "iso-8859-1". 
>>
>>Is anyone else setting cfmail content type successfully in cfmx?  Whats
>>everyone else doing?  Here's what a typical cfmail statement looks like:
>>
>>"iso-8859-1"
>>& chr(34)>
>>>  to="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>>  from="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
>>  server="mail.blah.com"
>>  subject="blah blah blah" 
>>  type="HTML">
>>blah
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>---
>> Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
>>--- 
>> 
>>
>>
>
>
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RE: Request for Review: "Variables in CFML

[Jim Davis]

> -Original Message-
> From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:47 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Request for Review: "Variables in CFML
> 
> 
> On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 02:57 US/Pacific, Matt Robertson wrote:
> > Isn't it possible for CFMX to scale session vars across a 
> cluster now?
> 
> Yes, since you can use J2EE session variables and leverage the 
> scalability of the underlying J2EE system.

So how does this actually work across a cluster?  I have to assume that
the data is still stored in server RAM (since we're not setting an
external storage area) so does every creation/update a session var send
out a message to all of the severs in the cluster?  Does one server poll
the others for data when a customer hits it?  Does it require the use of
CF Clustering or will it work using any clustering tech?

I know it's hard to believe - but I'm confused.  ;^)

Jim Davis


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RE: CFMAIL frying on content type assignment?

[Matthew Walker]

This seems to work: 

-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2003 2:49 p.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMAIL frying on content type assignment?

Matthew wrote:
>Try "ISO-8859-1" - MX seems to be a bit fussy about that in 
>some areas.

Nope.  Same error.  Good idea, though.  If I remove the code it works fine.
Am I doing something obviously wrong here with regard to the encoding?  I'll
have to check but I could swear this code has been in place for awhile and
running fine.  The only thing I can figure is different is Updater 3.

---
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 MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
---


-- Original Message --
From: "Matthew Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:31:59 +1200

>Try "ISO-8859-1" - MX seems to be a bit fussy about that in some areas.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2003 2:33 p.m.
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: CFMAIL frying on content type assignment?
>
>I could swear it didn't used to do this prior to Updater 3, but I'm not
>sure.  In my cfmail messages, I set the following variable:
>
>
>
>so I can in turn plug it in to this cfmailparam:
>
>
>
>Fine and dandy.  Unfortunately I'm now finding this is blowing up on CFMX.
>I get:
>
>The cause of this output exception was that:
>java.io.UnsupportedEncodingException: "iso-8859-1". 
>
>Is anyone else setting cfmail content type successfully in cfmx?  Whats
>everyone else doing?  Here's what a typical cfmail statement looks like:
>
>& chr(34)>
>   to="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>   from="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
>   server="mail.blah.com"
>   subject="blah blah blah" 
>   type="HTML">
>blah
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>---
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> MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
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> 
>
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RE: CFMAIL frying on content type assignment?

[Matt Robertson]

Matthew wrote:
>Try "ISO-8859-1" - MX seems to be a bit fussy about that in 
>some areas.

Nope.  Same error.  Good idea, though.  If I remove the code it works fine.  Am I 
doing something obviously wrong here with regard to the encoding?  I'll have to check 
but I could swear this code has been in place for awhile and running fine.  The only 
thing I can figure is different is Updater 3.

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-- Original Message --
From: "Matthew Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:31:59 +1200

>Try "ISO-8859-1" - MX seems to be a bit fussy about that in some areas.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2003 2:33 p.m.
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: CFMAIL frying on content type assignment?
>
>I could swear it didn't used to do this prior to Updater 3, but I'm not
>sure.  In my cfmail messages, I set the following variable:
>
>
>
>so I can in turn plug it in to this cfmailparam:
>
>
>
>Fine and dandy.  Unfortunately I'm now finding this is blowing up on CFMX.
>I get:
>
>The cause of this output exception was that:
>java.io.UnsupportedEncodingException: "iso-8859-1". 
>
>Is anyone else setting cfmail content type successfully in cfmx?  Whats
>everyone else doing?  Here's what a typical cfmail statement looks like:
>
>& chr(34)>
>   to="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
>   from="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
>   server="mail.blah.com"
>   subject="blah blah blah" 
>   type="HTML">
>blah
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>---
> Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
>--- 
> 
>
>
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RE: Request for Review: "Variables in CFML

[Jim Davis]

Personally I use the Application scope for session data and roll my own
timeout simply to gain the ability for "end of session event"
processing.

Even properly locked (and using CF 4.5) it's plenty fast enough if done
right.

Jim Davis

> -Original Message-
> From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:47 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Request for Review: "Variables in CFML
> 
> 
> On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 02:57 US/Pacific, Matt Robertson wrote:
> > Isn't it possible for CFMX to scale session vars across a 
> cluster now?
> 
> Yes, since you can use J2EE session variables and leverage the 
> scalability of the underlying J2EE system.
> 
> > Did you hit on session management in a cluster?  If it were 
> me I'd go 
> > with client vars, but I guess using either client or session is now 
> > possible.
> 
> Client variables are restricted to simple data types, session 
> variables 
> can be anything (including CFCs). That alone may be sufficient reason 
> to prefer session variables to client variables. Also, with client 
> variables, you are restricted to cookies (increasing download / get / 
> post time), registry (very bad!) or a database (serialization 
> overhead 
> and data access times). I can't see the appeal of client variables so 
> I'd be interested to hear from folks - like Matt - who use them and 
> prefer them to session variables.
> 
> Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
> 
> "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> -- Margaret Atwood
> 
> 
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RE: CFMAIL frying on content type assignment?

[Matthew Walker]

Try "ISO-8859-1" - MX seems to be a bit fussy about that in some areas.

-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2003 2:33 p.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMAIL frying on content type assignment?

I could swear it didn't used to do this prior to Updater 3, but I'm not
sure.  In my cfmail messages, I set the following variable:



so I can in turn plug it in to this cfmailparam:



Fine and dandy.  Unfortunately I'm now finding this is blowing up on CFMX.
I get:

The cause of this output exception was that:
java.io.UnsupportedEncodingException: "iso-8859-1". 

Is anyone else setting cfmail content type successfully in cfmx?  Whats
everyone else doing?  Here's what a typical cfmail statement looks like:



blah







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CFMAIL frying on content type assignment?

[Matt Robertson]

I could swear it didn't used to do this prior to Updater 3, but I'm not sure.  In my 
cfmail messages, I set the following variable:



so I can in turn plug it in to this cfmailparam:



Fine and dandy.  Unfortunately I'm now finding this is blowing up on CFMX.  I get:

The cause of this output exception was that: java.io.UnsupportedEncodingException: 
"iso-8859-1". 

Is anyone else setting cfmail content type successfully in cfmx?  Whats everyone else 
doing?  Here's what a typical cfmail statement looks like:



blah







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Java 1.4.1 CFMXJ2EE for JRun Mac OS X

[Dick Applebaum]

Has anyone got CFMXJ2EE for JRun and JRun for  Mac OSX to run with 
Apple's Java 1..4.1 JVM?
TIA

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PGA takes a swing with fusebox

[Cameron Childress]

http://site.pga.com/sweepstakes/

word.

-Cameron

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CFINCLUDE of CGI pages

[Jim Vosika]

I have a cold fusion page and a CGI page that I would like in one without using 
frames. When I do a cfinclude on the .cfm page the cold fusion code works as it should 
the insead of displaying the output of the .cgi page it just displays all of the cgi 
code. Has anyone ran across this before? 

Thanks,
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Cache-control: no-cache

[joe hobson]

I've had trouble with bad proxy configurations lately. In the past I've used
the "Pragma:no-cache" http header (via CFHeader) but had problems with
browsers seeing pages as expired. Recently someone suggested using
"Cache-control: no-cache" to tell the proxy server not to cache the page.
Can anyone out there see a problem adding the following to my
Application.cfm so that _none_ of the pages are cached?



Sounds easy enough. I've tested that code via MS Proxy 2.0 (one that's
giving me problems) and it seems to clear it up. What problems could I run
into in other areas or in the future?

Thanks in advance. . . . . . .. . .joe

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Problem with Access database connection

[Sangeeta Karmokar]

CAn anyone check this script

I am trying to create login and Password page with access as my database. Can u check 
whether this script is ok?


SELECT*FROM log
WHERE Login='#form.Login#'
AND Password='#form.Password#'






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Re: CFINCLUDES and RE: CFC Performance Best Practice

[Sean A Corfield]

On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 10:01 US/Pacific, Mike Brunt wrote:
> With regard to coding bad practice I have no
> doubts that multiple layers of nested includes-custom tags are bad 
> practice
> as they make code very hard to read and follow.

Hmm, it isn't the multiple layers that make code hard to read per se so 
it must something else.

It is generally accepted best practice in software engineering to break 
code down into smaller, reusable chunks. In CF, that has historically 
translated into includes and custom tags (and now it's UDFs, custom 
tags and CFCs). If this is done properly, it should be very readable 
and easy to maintain. That means using good, clear naming and an 
'obvious' decomposition into smaller parts. If you choose a bad 
decomposition then of course you get unreadable code!

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RE: Problem with Access database connection

[Tilbrook, Peter]

Try this:

http://www.forta.com/cf/tips/index.cfm?age=169

==
Peter Tilbrook
Internet Applications Developer
Australian Building Codes Board
GPO Box 9839
CANBERRA ACT 2601
AUSTRALIA

  WWW: http://www.abcb.gov.au/
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Telephone: +61 (02) 6213 6731
   Mobile: 0439 401 823
Facsimile: +61 (02) 6213 7287 

-Original Message-
From: Ruggiero, Kevin D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2003 9:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Problem with Access database connection


I'm trying to connect to an Access 2000 database on our network.  The file
is on a file server in the same domain as our Intranet.  I have the
ColdFusion MX app server logging in as my own domain account, which has full
access to the database.  Connecting to local databases works fine.  The
database has no security on it- it can open for anybody.  I'm using the
Microsoft Access driver provided with ColdFusion MX.  I'm running CFMX
Updater 3.  However, ColdFusion is giving me the following error when
verifying the database, and it is happening for all network Access
databases:

Connection verification failed for data source: trymp
[]java.sql.SQLException: SQLException while attempting to connect:
java.sql.SQLException: [MERANT][SequeLink JDBC Driver][ODBC
Socket][Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] The Microsoft Jet database
engine cannot open the file '(unknown)'. It is already opened exclusively by
another user, or you need permission to view its data.
The root cause was that: java.sql.SQLException: SQLException while
attempting to connect: java.sql.SQLException: [MERANT][SequeLink JDBC
Driver][ODBC Socket][Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] The Microsoft
Jet database engine cannot open the file '(unknown)'. It is already opened
exclusively by another user, or you need permission to view its data.


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RE: importing excel-data to access-table

[Matthew Walker]

Try wrapping Int() or maybe CInt() around your field name.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2003 11:35 a.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: importing excel-data to access-table

Hi list, when I want
to do an Insert Into
I get an Insert Error
[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Syntaxerror in INSERT INTO
This is due to Excel producing e.g. the value 8.0 rather than an
integer 8.
What can I do to solve this error ?
Uwe


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importing excel-data to access-table

[cf-talk]

Hi list, when I want
to do an Insert Into
I get an Insert Error
[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Syntaxerror in INSERT INTO
This is due to Excel producing e.g. the value 8.0 rather than an
integer 8.
What can I do to solve this error ?
Uwe

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Re: OT - Incorporating Yahoo! Maps

[Matt Robertson]

I forgot about MapQuest.

Mapquest LinkFree gives detailed instructions and no pointers to their tos.  Further, 
they list ''linking restrictions'' which don't mention commercial use.  

I've used a linkfree link on one commercial client, strictly within their rules and 
I'm not worried about violating any rules, since they took the trouble to demonstrate 
their intent and write them down on that screen. 

And you gotta love that they put the aerial maps back up for public use.

One thing you can bet on:  Use one of these freebies and you'll have to do it over in 
a year or so when they change their api, tos or somesuch.

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Problem with Access database connection

[Ruggiero, Kevin D]

I'm trying to connect to an Access 2000 database on our network.  The file
is on a file server in the same domain as our Intranet.  I have the
ColdFusion MX app server logging in as my own domain account, which has full
access to the database.  Connecting to local databases works fine.  The
database has no security on it- it can open for anybody.  I'm using the
Microsoft Access driver provided with ColdFusion MX.  I'm running CFMX
Updater 3.  However, ColdFusion is giving me the following error when
verifying the database, and it is happening for all network Access
databases:

Connection verification failed for data source: trymp
[]java.sql.SQLException: SQLException while attempting to connect:
java.sql.SQLException: [MERANT][SequeLink JDBC Driver][ODBC
Socket][Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] The Microsoft Jet database
engine cannot open the file '(unknown)'. It is already opened exclusively by
another user, or you need permission to view its data.
The root cause was that: java.sql.SQLException: SQLException while
attempting to connect: java.sql.SQLException: [MERANT][SequeLink JDBC
Driver][ODBC Socket][Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] The Microsoft
Jet database engine cannot open the file '(unknown)'. It is already opened
exclusively by another user, or you need permission to view its data.

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Re: Automatic File List in Database

[Jerry Johnson]

Option 2 or 3 could still work. They don't use verity at all.

The question I usually ask when choosing db vs file based storage:

Do you need to search through the items? Do you need to manipulate them quickly? If 
so, db is good.

If not, where it is more a CFDIRECTORY married to some extra info, I prefer the file 
based solutions.

I also find the file based solutions easier and quicker to change structurally.

For example, my music collection of mp3s is sorted into directories by Genre, Artist, 
Album, Song. I have different xml info files in each directory which handle the extra 
info associated with each of these entity types.


FWIW
Jerry Johnson


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/24/03 08:39PM >>>
NO VERITY. 

BlueDragon



- Original Message -
From: "Jerry Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database


> Before you settle into a solution, what type of files are you talking
about?
>
> I have solved this a couple of different ways.
>
> 1. Directories of htm and cfm and pdf files. I embedded extra tags in a
comments section at the top of the file.
>
>  Description Goes Here
> This is the short line of text to display on listing
pages
> Jan 13, 2003
> dashdash>
>
> Then used Verity to search and retrieve these fields from the files,
inlcuding path, URL, and these extra FIELDS.
>
> 2. Married each file with an info file stored in the same directory with
the same name but extra extension.
>
> Jerry.jpg
> Jerry.jpg.nfo
> or
> Jerry.jpg.txt
> or
> Jerry.jpg.xml
> And then place all the "extra" info into that file. Easy to find. Easy to
see when missing.
>
> 3. For those files with short simple desc, just add the desc to the
filename or directory name.
>
> MA20030317_News Story_Boy Bitten By Dog.htm
>
> Just some ideas,
> Jerry Johnson
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/24/03 08:23PM >>>
> That may work...I think.have you got an example of that code?
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Philip Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:21 PM
> Subject: RE: Automatic File List in Database
>
>
> > > The file list holds images and drawings, which need
> > > descriptions in another field in order to be selected. There
> > > are thousands of files and the files have strange naming
> > > conventions. Best I can figure, I need a field with paths and
> > > a field with descriptions, so I can call them up and display
> > > them in the page. I tried using CFDIRECTORY, but describing
> > > the files is the main thing.
> >
> > If the description isn't always going to be there, then why not have the
> > location and file name, plus the description in the database, that way
> > you can reference it for those that it "needs"
> >
> > Then use a Query of Query to join the CFDIRECTORY result to the
> > information in the database
> >
> > Would that work?
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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RE: unsubscribe

[Philip Arnold]

Oops, as pointed out by someone (Ben Doom), the User is "you", so please
use the link on the bottom of your email 

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:37 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: unsubscribe
>
>
> > unsubscribe
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Re: OT - Incorporating Yahoo! Maps

[Scott Brady]

-- Original Message --
From: "Dave Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>im not to sure on that one.
>Mapquest is very widely used by just about every major real estate
>association to use in there mappings.

It's quite possible they got permission (i.e., paid for permission) to use MapQuest 
maps on their site.  Looking more closely at the site, they have a "Maps for your 
Site" feature where for free you can post a link to a Mapquest map (but not display 
the actual map) or you can pay as little as $4,400 to use their "Mapping Solutions for 
Businesses".

http://www.mapquest.com/solutions/main.adp

In addition it might be a good idea to check out the terms of service (Legal Notices), 
particularly the section titled "Limitation on Use of Maps, Cartographic Technology 
and Content Information; Right of Use License" at 
http://www.mapquest.com/about/copyright.adp

Scott

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Re: Automatic File List in Database

[Michael Pool]

NO VERITY. 

BlueDragon



- Original Message -
From: "Jerry Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database


> Before you settle into a solution, what type of files are you talking
about?
>
> I have solved this a couple of different ways.
>
> 1. Directories of htm and cfm and pdf files. I embedded extra tags in a
comments section at the top of the file.
>
>  Description Goes Here
> This is the short line of text to display on listing
pages
> Jan 13, 2003
> dashdash>
>
> Then used Verity to search and retrieve these fields from the files,
inlcuding path, URL, and these extra FIELDS.
>
> 2. Married each file with an info file stored in the same directory with
the same name but extra extension.
>
> Jerry.jpg
> Jerry.jpg.nfo
> or
> Jerry.jpg.txt
> or
> Jerry.jpg.xml
> And then place all the "extra" info into that file. Easy to find. Easy to
see when missing.
>
> 3. For those files with short simple desc, just add the desc to the
filename or directory name.
>
> MA20030317_News Story_Boy Bitten By Dog.htm
>
> Just some ideas,
> Jerry Johnson
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/24/03 08:23PM >>>
> That may work...I think.have you got an example of that code?
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Philip Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:21 PM
> Subject: RE: Automatic File List in Database
>
>
> > > The file list holds images and drawings, which need
> > > descriptions in another field in order to be selected. There
> > > are thousands of files and the files have strange naming
> > > conventions. Best I can figure, I need a field with paths and
> > > a field with descriptions, so I can call them up and display
> > > them in the page. I tried using CFDIRECTORY, but describing
> > > the files is the main thing.
> >
> > If the description isn't always going to be there, then why not have the
> > location and file name, plus the description in the database, that way
> > you can reference it for those that it "needs"
> >
> > Then use a Query of Query to join the CFDIRECTORY result to the
> > information in the database
> >
> > Would that work?
> >
> >
> >
>
> 
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Automatic File List in Database

[Michael Pool]

Yes that is where I am going with this.. I have the "FTP" file upload
templates already built for new files, but as for the files currently in the
database, I need to import their names into the 'filename' field and leave a
blank in the 'description' field.

The users still have access to the file system at this time and files are
getting added and deleted at such a rate that I can't keep up with it. I am
building a document management system that will restrict their access to the
files and require descriptions of them added to the database, but until
then, I have to keep track of every file in the folder. I was hoping I could
possibly update the database 'filename' field automatically at least until I
lock them out of the NTFS directory.


- Original Message -
From: "Barney Boisvert" 
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:25 PM
Subject: RE: Automatic File List in Database


> For situations like this (uploaded files in a CMS, web-based FTP on
> steroids, etc), I make a table that stores a filename, title, description,
> and watever else, and then put put all the files in a single directory.
> Then when you want the file, you use the 'filename' field to go get it
form
> the directory.
>
> The one caveat to make is that files added directly to the file system are
> never visible in the CF interface.  Files must be added through the CF
> interface.  This also lets you automatically rename files without the user
> needing to care if two people both want to upload 'my_picture.jpg'.
There's
> no reason you couldn't make a scraper that'd scrape the file system
looking
> for files not in the DB, and then add them with a null description if
> keeping things synched from that direction is important.
>
> HTH,
> barneyb
>
> ---
> Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
> AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> voice : 360.671.8708 x12
> fax   : 360.647.5351
>
> www.audiencecentral.com
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Pool [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 5:07 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database
> >
> >
> > The file list holds images and drawings, which need descriptions
> > in another
> > field in order to be selected. There are thousands of files and the
files
> > have strange naming conventions. Best I can figure, I need a field with
> > paths and a field with descriptions, so I can call them up and
> > display them
> > in the page. I tried using CFDIRECTORY, but describing the files
> > is the main
> > thing.
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database
> >
> >
> > > Now that I think of it...why store the file list in the DB?
> > Why not just
> > > use CFDIRECTORY when the list is needed...that way it's always
> > current and
> > > there is no maintenance required.
> > >
> > > Of course you may have some reason to store it, but there ya go ;-)
> > >
> > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> > > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> > > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> > > t. 250.920.8830
> > > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > -
> > > Macromedia Associate Partner
> > > www.macromedia.com
> > > -
> > > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> > > Founder & Director
> > > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:53 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well you could use CFDIRECTORY to get the file list and store
> > it in the
> > > > database.  To keep that list current is another matter.  It depends
on
> > how
> > > > current the list needs to be (or how often the files change).  If
it's
> > not
> > > > too frequently you could have a scheduled task that routinely
deletes
> > the
> > > > file list from the database and sticks in the current list
> > (same way you
> > > > would get it in the database initially).
> > > >
> > > > HTH
> > > >
> > > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> > > > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> > > > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> > > > t. 250.920.8830
> > > > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > > Macromedia Associate Partner
> > > > www.macromedia.com
> > > > -
> > > > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> > > > Founder & Director
> > > > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Michael Pool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:36 PM
> > > > Subject: Automat

Re: Automatic File List in Database

[Jerry Johnson]

Before you settle into a solution, what type of files are you talking about?

I have solved this a couple of different ways.

1. Directories of htm and cfm and pdf files. I embedded extra tags in a comments 
section at the top of the file.

Description Goes Here
This is the short line of text to display on listing pages
Jan 13, 2003
dashdash>

Then used Verity to search and retrieve these fields from the files, inlcuding path, 
URL, and these extra FIELDS.

2. Married each file with an info file stored in the same directory with the same name 
but extra extension.

Jerry.jpg
Jerry.jpg.nfo
or 
Jerry.jpg.txt
or 
Jerry.jpg.xml
And then place all the "extra" info into that file. Easy to find. Easy to see when 
missing.

3. For those files with short simple desc, just add the desc to the filename or 
directory name.

MA20030317_News Story_Boy Bitten By Dog.htm

Just some ideas,
Jerry Johnson

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/24/03 08:23PM >>>
That may work...I think.have you got an example of that code?


- Original Message -
From: "Philip Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:21 PM
Subject: RE: Automatic File List in Database


> > The file list holds images and drawings, which need
> > descriptions in another field in order to be selected. There
> > are thousands of files and the files have strange naming
> > conventions. Best I can figure, I need a field with paths and
> > a field with descriptions, so I can call them up and display
> > them in the page. I tried using CFDIRECTORY, but describing
> > the files is the main thing.
>
> If the description isn't always going to be there, then why not have the
> location and file name, plus the description in the database, that way
> you can reference it for those that it "needs"
>
> Then use a Query of Query to join the CFDIRECTORY result to the
> information in the database
>
> Would that work?
>
>
> 

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RE: Automatic File List in Database

[Philip Arnold]

> That may work...I think.have you got an example of that code?

At this point, no, but I can put some code together later...

If you've still got the problem by tomorrow morning, I'll see what I can
do then


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Re: OT - Incorporating Yahoo! Maps

[Dave Lyons]

im not to sure on that one.
Mapquest is very widely used by just about every major real estate
association to use in there mappings.
dave
- Original Message -
From: "Scott Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Incorporating Yahoo! Maps


> -- Original Message --
> From: "Dave Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >its not yahoo maps but I have something for mapquest
>
> I'm doing a real estate site for my realtor and looked at Mapquest for
mapping the neighborhood he focuses on.  However, the MapQuest TOS are
similar to Yahoo's and reproducing the maps on a commercial site go against
the TOS.  (In my case, the map will be updatable by my client on his admin
site, and I'm putting in bold text that they need to verify that the map is
not covered by copyright or other restrictions.  I can't stop him from
posting a MapQuest map, but I can't say he wasn't warned, either.)
>
> Scott
> 
> Scott Brady
> http://www.scottbrady.net/
>
>
> 
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Re: Automatic File List in Database

[Michael Pool]

That may work...I think.have you got an example of that code?


- Original Message -
From: "Philip Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:21 PM
Subject: RE: Automatic File List in Database


> > The file list holds images and drawings, which need
> > descriptions in another field in order to be selected. There
> > are thousands of files and the files have strange naming
> > conventions. Best I can figure, I need a field with paths and
> > a field with descriptions, so I can call them up and display
> > them in the page. I tried using CFDIRECTORY, but describing
> > the files is the main thing.
>
> If the description isn't always going to be there, then why not have the
> location and file name, plus the description in the database, that way
> you can reference it for those that it "needs"
>
> Then use a Query of Query to join the CFDIRECTORY result to the
> information in the database
>
> Would that work?
>
>
> 
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RE: Automatic File List in Database

[Barney Boisvert]

For situations like this (uploaded files in a CMS, web-based FTP on
steroids, etc), I make a table that stores a filename, title, description,
and watever else, and then put put all the files in a single directory.
Then when you want the file, you use the 'filename' field to go get it form
the directory.

The one caveat to make is that files added directly to the file system are
never visible in the CF interface.  Files must be added through the CF
interface.  This also lets you automatically rename files without the user
needing to care if two people both want to upload 'my_picture.jpg'.  There's
no reason you couldn't make a scraper that'd scrape the file system looking
for files not in the DB, and then add them with a null description if
keeping things synched from that direction is important.

HTH,
barneyb

---
Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
voice : 360.671.8708 x12
fax   : 360.647.5351

www.audiencecentral.com

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Pool [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 5:07 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database
>
>
> The file list holds images and drawings, which need descriptions
> in another
> field in order to be selected. There are thousands of files and the files
> have strange naming conventions. Best I can figure, I need a field with
> paths and a field with descriptions, so I can call them up and
> display them
> in the page. I tried using CFDIRECTORY, but describing the files
> is the main
> thing.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database
>
>
> > Now that I think of it...why store the file list in the DB?
> Why not just
> > use CFDIRECTORY when the list is needed...that way it's always
> current and
> > there is no maintenance required.
> >
> > Of course you may have some reason to store it, but there ya go ;-)
> >
> > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> > t. 250.920.8830
> > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > -
> > Macromedia Associate Partner
> > www.macromedia.com
> > -
> > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> > Founder & Director
> > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database
> >
> >
> > > Well you could use CFDIRECTORY to get the file list and store
> it in the
> > > database.  To keep that list current is another matter.  It depends on
> how
> > > current the list needs to be (or how often the files change).  If it's
> not
> > > too frequently you could have a scheduled task that routinely deletes
> the
> > > file list from the database and sticks in the current list
> (same way you
> > > would get it in the database initially).
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> > > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> > > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> > > t. 250.920.8830
> > > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > -
> > > Macromedia Associate Partner
> > > www.macromedia.com
> > > -
> > > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> > > Founder & Director
> > > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Michael Pool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:36 PM
> > > Subject: Automatic File List in Database
> > >
> > >
> > > > How would be the easiest way to get a directories file
> names imported
> > into
> > > a
> > > > database and keep them updated automatically whenever a new file is
> > > created?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
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RE: CF 5 Oracle Best Pactices

[Ruggiero, Kevin D]

I've found bugs with the Oracle odbc drivers (version 8.1.7.0).  With some
data I'd get cursor errors.  After upgrading to MX and using native jdbc
drivers, I am no longer experiencing these errors.  I suggest you use native
drivers- the ODBC drivers were buggy for me.  Also, 8.1.7.0 is a good idea
because for reasons stated below.

-Original Message-
From: Lincoln Milner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF 5 Oracle Best Pactices


Well, from an Oracle standpoint, 8.1.7 is the only RDBMS that is still
supported by Oracle (except under their extended contracts).  9i offers some
good things with administration tasks, but, if you're interested in an 8x
solution, my vote would be 8.1.7.

As far as native vs. OBDC, I would use Native, since I remember (at least
back in the days of CF 4.01) that Native drivers were faster than ODBC.
That may be different now, but I always try to use native if available.

FWIW,
-lincoln

-Original Message-
From: Robert Shaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF 5 Oracle Best Pactices


I'm about to configure a CF 5 machine and was wondering if anyone knows the 
best version of Oracle to use with CF 5 - 8.0 vs 8.1.6 or 7 and if I should 
use native or ODBC. Any insight into best practices or experiences is 
appreciated - TIA!

Rob








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RE: Automatic File List in Database

[Philip Arnold]

> The file list holds images and drawings, which need
> descriptions in another field in order to be selected. There
> are thousands of files and the files have strange naming
> conventions. Best I can figure, I need a field with paths and
> a field with descriptions, so I can call them up and display
> them in the page. I tried using CFDIRECTORY, but describing
> the files is the main thing.

If the description isn't always going to be there, then why not have the
location and file name, plus the description in the database, that way
you can reference it for those that it "needs"

Then use a Query of Query to join the CFDIRECTORY result to the
information in the database

Would that work?


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Automatic File List in Database with description

[Michael Pool]

Q: How would be the easiest way to get a directories file names imported
into a database and keep them updated automatically whenever a new file is
created?
The file list holds images and drawings, which need descriptions in
another
field in order to be selected. There are thousands of files and the files
have strange naming conventions. Best I can figure, I need a field with
paths and a field with descriptions, so I can call them up and display them
in the page with their descriptions.

I tried using CFDIRECTORY, but describing the files a must. I don't know
how
CFDIRECTORY could do that

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Re: Automatic File List in Database

[Michael Pool]

The file list holds images and drawings, which need descriptions in another
field in order to be selected. There are thousands of files and the files
have strange naming conventions. Best I can figure, I need a field with
paths and a field with descriptions, so I can call them up and display them
in the page. I tried using CFDIRECTORY, but describing the files is the main
thing.



- Original Message -
From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database


> Now that I think of it...why store the file list in the DB?  Why not just
> use CFDIRECTORY when the list is needed...that way it's always current and
> there is no maintenance required.
>
> Of course you may have some reason to store it, but there ya go ;-)
>
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> t. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -
> Macromedia Associate Partner
> www.macromedia.com
> -
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> Founder & Director
> www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database
>
>
> > Well you could use CFDIRECTORY to get the file list and store it in the
> > database.  To keep that list current is another matter.  It depends on
how
> > current the list needs to be (or how often the files change).  If it's
not
> > too frequently you could have a scheduled task that routinely deletes
the
> > file list from the database and sticks in the current list (same way you
> > would get it in the database initially).
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> > t. 250.920.8830
> > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > -
> > Macromedia Associate Partner
> > www.macromedia.com
> > -
> > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> > Founder & Director
> > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Michael Pool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:36 PM
> > Subject: Automatic File List in Database
> >
> >
> > > How would be the easiest way to get a directories file names imported
> into
> > a
> > > database and keep them updated automatically whenever a new file is
> > created?
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
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Re: OT - Incorporating Yahoo! Maps

[Matt Robertson]

Hot without violating the 'non-commercial' part of their licensing.  Thats the kicker.

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-- Original Message --
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date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:38:03 -0600 (CST)

>I am not trying to reproduce it simply opening a blank page to the Yahoo! Map
>page giving Yahoo! full credit.
>
>Still a no go?
>
>> Read Paragraph 4 of their terms of use (the link at the bottom of the
>maps home page).  You can't reproduce the map, nor can you use it for any commercial
>purpose.
>
>
>
>Get your own free email account from
>http://www.popmail.com
>
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Re: OT - Incorporating Yahoo! Maps

[Scott Brady]

-- Original Message --
From: "Dave Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>its not yahoo maps but I have something for mapquest

I'm doing a real estate site for my realtor and looked at Mapquest for mapping the 
neighborhood he focuses on.  However, the MapQuest TOS are similar to Yahoo's and 
reproducing the maps on a commercial site go against the TOS.  (In my case, the map 
will be updatable by my client on his admin site, and I'm putting in bold text that 
they need to verify that the map is not covered by copyright or other restrictions.  I 
can't stop him from posting a MapQuest map, but I can't say he wasn't warned, either.)

Scott

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Re: Automatic File List in Database

[Bryan Stevenson]

Now that I think of it...why store the file list in the DB?  Why not just
use CFDIRECTORY when the list is needed...that way it's always current and
there is no maintenance required.

Of course you may have some reason to store it, but there ya go ;-)

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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- Original Message -
From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database


> Well you could use CFDIRECTORY to get the file list and store it in the
> database.  To keep that list current is another matter.  It depends on how
> current the list needs to be (or how often the files change).  If it's not
> too frequently you could have a scheduled task that routinely deletes the
> file list from the database and sticks in the current list (same way you
> would get it in the database initially).
>
> HTH
>
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> t. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -
> Macromedia Associate Partner
> www.macromedia.com
> -
> Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
> Founder & Director
> www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael Pool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:36 PM
> Subject: Automatic File List in Database
>
>
> > How would be the easiest way to get a directories file names imported
into
> a
> > database and keep them updated automatically whenever a new file is
> created?
> >
> >
> 
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RE: Automatic File List in Database

[Barney Boisvert]

Is performance a huge issue?  If it's not, just use the database named 'the
filesystem' and 'query' it with CFDIRECTORY rather than CFQUERY.  If that
won't work for whatever reason, you'd have to use a scheduled task to use
CFDIRECTORY and refresh the database periodically.  The former will result
in instant updates with no administrative overhead, the latter will be
faster for recalling, but cost to maintain the database.

barneyb

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> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Pool [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:37 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Automatic File List in Database
>
>
> How would be the easiest way to get a directories file names
> imported into a
> database and keep them updated automatically whenever a new file
> is created?
>
> 
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RE: OT: css, dhtml question

[Buckland, Ramon]

Barney,

I worked on a web application once that worked 
(and looked) almost identical to what you have there.

We used DHTML (DynAPI a JS Library) and it gave 
height's etc of the 's after content had been set..
thus being able to put footers at the bottom.

my point, yes it can be done, if DynAPI had the numbers available to
see then the browser has them.. take a look in
the DynAPI library and see how they did it.

specifically the setHTML() function somewher 
(been about 2 years sorry)


> -Original Message-
> From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2003 6:11 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: OT: css, dhtml question
> 
> 
> Perhaps a better explaination is in order.  The app is internal for an
> IE5.5+ only audience.  It's quite visually complex, and I'm 
> trying to keep
> the number of page loads down as the presentation changes as much as
> possible.  I have a base page set up like this:
> 
> +---+
> |   |
> +---+---+---+
> |   |   |   |
> |   |   |   |
> |   |   |   |
> |   |   |   |
> |   |   |   |
> +---+---+---+
> |   |
> +---+
> 
> The top 4 content areas all have variable content, while the footer is
> static.  As well, the top 4 areas might not all be there, and 
> they might be
> added or removed client-side.  This is all working just dandy 
> using absolute
> positioning and hiding stuff.  However, I need to slap that 
> footer bar at
> the bottom, and I need it to start below the other content areas (no
> overlap).  I can't figure out a good way to do that, because 
> I don't know
> how tall the middle 3 areas are (if they are present) until the client
> renders them.
> 
> I might well be pursueing a pipe-dream, in which case I'll 
> find another way,
> but it seems like this should be possible.
> 
> thanks,
> barneyb
> 
> ---
> Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
> AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> voice : 360.671.8708 x12
> fax   : 360.647.5351
> 
> www.audiencecentral.com
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jason Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:53 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question
> >
> >
> > Personally - I handle footers in .cfm includes.. I find it 
> much easier -
> > and simply it includes it at the end of the code. So on shorter and
> > longer pages it simply displays at end.
> >
> > If you needed to actually "attach" a footer to the bottom 
> of the browser
> > - something like
> > 
> > would work.
> >
> > I added z-index more for demonstration - The issue is - that you can
> > overalp content. Unlike using an include - that will put it at the
> > bottom no matter what - you will need to scroll to get 
> content beyone
> > viewable screen -but footer will hang on to the bottom edge.
> >
> > Use it carefully because there are almost always some trouble spots.
> > IF your footer can overlap content - not a biggie. In one 
> case I used it
> > - I assigned z-index of -100 ( which also has it's own bugs 
> on browser
> > versions) so on shorter page content the footer didn't interrupt.
> >
> > hope that helps
> > jay miller
> >
> > Barney Boisvert wrote:
> > > Totally unrelated, but on the same topic.  How might I go about
> > putting a
> > > footer bar at the bottom of my page using CSS, rather than a
> > table.  I've
> > > had no problems with topbars, sidebars (either side) and the
> > main content
> > > pane(s), but I can't get stuff to sit at the bottom of the page
> > correctly.
> > > I tried 'bottom' (complementing top) but it seems to be 
> tied to the
> > > browser's size, not the page's size, which doesn't work if the
> > page scrolls,
> > > at least on IE6.
> > >
> > > Use JS to set it dynamically?
> > >
> > > footerbar.style.top = Math.max(menubar.style.height,
> > > contentpane.style.height) + topbar.style.height;
> > >
> > > that seems like a horrible way to do it to me.
> > >
> > > barneyb
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
> > > AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > voice : 360.671.8708 x12
> > > fax   : 360.647.5351
> > >
> > > www.audiencecentral.com
> > >
> > >
> > >>-Original Message-
> > >>From: charlie griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:18 AM
> > >>To: CF-Talk
> > >>Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>may want to give the  a width...
> > >>
> > >>it might defined in the 'sidebar' class in the .css...i was too
> > >>lazy to look
> > >>:)
> > >>
> > >>charlie
> > >>
> > >>Mark A. Kruger - CFG writes:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why 
> this page doesn't
> > >>>render correctly in IE?
> > >>>
> > >>>http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp
> > >>>
> > >>>thanks!
> > >>>
> > >>>-mk
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > 
> 
~~~

Re: Automatic File List in Database

[Bryan Stevenson]

Well you could use CFDIRECTORY to get the file list and store it in the
database.  To keep that list current is another matter.  It depends on how
current the list needs to be (or how often the files change).  If it's not
too frequently you could have a scheduled task that routinely deletes the
file list from the database and sticks in the current list (same way you
would get it in the database initially).

HTH

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:36 PM
Subject: Automatic File List in Database


> How would be the easiest way to get a directories file names imported into
a
> database and keep them updated automatically whenever a new file is
created?
>
> 
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RE: CF 5 Oracle Best Pactices

[Douglas.Knudsen]

we use 8.1.7 solely and extensively.  We are using the Micrsoft ODBC drivers too.  We 
get good results and stability.  We use the native drivers only if we need to mess 
with CLOBS.  A Ray Thompson on this list or the CFDJLIST said he has done abit of 
testing and found the M$ drivers good.  YMMV

DOUG

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>From: Robert Shaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:26 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: CF 5 Oracle Best Pactices
>
>
>I'm about to configure a CF 5 machine and was wondering if 
>anyone knows the 
>best version of Oracle to use with CF 5 - 8.0 vs 8.1.6 or 7 
>and if I should 
>use native or ODBC. Any insight into best practices or experiences is 
>appreciated - TIA!
>
>Rob
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: OT - Incorporating Yahoo! Maps

[Dave Lyons]

its not yahoo maps but I have something for mapquest
I have a real estate company and I use it to map the properties
I have submitted it to www.dwfaq.com as a snippet but I don't think they
have posted it yet.
if you want it let me know and I will post it

Dave
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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:40 PM
Subject: OT - Incorporating Yahoo! Maps


> Has anyone incorporated Yahoo! maps on their website. I have a site with
property listings and want to use their map service to plot a map for the
user. Any permission issues or licensing I should be aware of with using
this?
>
> Eric
>
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RE: CF 5 Oracle Best Pactices

[Lincoln Milner]

Well, from an Oracle standpoint, 8.1.7 is the only RDBMS that is still supported by 
Oracle (except under their extended contracts).  9i offers some good things with 
administration tasks, but, if you're interested in an 8x solution, my vote would be 
8.1.7.

As far as native vs. OBDC, I would use Native, since I remember (at least back in the 
days of CF 4.01) that Native drivers were faster than ODBC.  That may be different 
now, but I always try to use native if available.

FWIW,
-lincoln

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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF 5 Oracle Best Pactices


I'm about to configure a CF 5 machine and was wondering if anyone knows the 
best version of Oracle to use with CF 5 - 8.0 vs 8.1.6 or 7 and if I should 
use native or ODBC. Any insight into best practices or experiences is 
appreciated - TIA!

Rob







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Automatic File List in Database

[Michael Pool]

How would be the easiest way to get a directories file names imported into a
database and keep them updated automatically whenever a new file is created?

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Parsing HTML files w/ ColdFusion

[Austin Govella]

I want to parse html file extensions using ColdFusion MX. Or, in other 
words, I want to name all of my CF files with .html extensions. So how do 
I do this?

I tried to add .html to the server extension list using the same .dll the 
server uses to process the .cfm files. Unfortunately, I get an error 
whenever I try and open an .html file:

"The document contains no data."

Did I map the extension incorrectly? Is there something I missed?

Many thanks
--
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Re: OT - Incorporating Yahoo! Maps

[ecreese]

I am not trying to reproduce it simply opening a blank page to the Yahoo! Map
page giving Yahoo! full credit.

Still a no go?

> Read Paragraph 4 of their terms of use (the link at the bottom of the
maps home page).  You can't reproduce the map, nor can you use it for any commercial
purpose.



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CF 5 Oracle Best Pactices

[Robert Shaw]

I'm about to configure a CF 5 machine and was wondering if anyone knows the 
best version of Oracle to use with CF 5 - 8.0 vs 8.1.6 or 7 and if I should 
use native or ODBC. Any insight into best practices or experiences is 
appreciated - TIA!

Rob






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Re: CFMX cannot handle charset for URL variables

[Jochem van Dieten]

Murat Demirci wrote:
> When I type a unicode string in the form field and submit the form, there is
> no problem. However when I type the same unicode string in the address bar
> the problem occurs. Similarly when I use 
> in a page the problem repeats.

Most likely you are not using unicode in the address bar. Are you sure 
your browser is not submitting the string in whatever encodig is native 
for it? What do the URLEncoded query_strings look like?

Jochem

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Re: RE: OT: css, dhtml question

[ksuh]

IE5+ has something called expressions that will do what you need.

Go to MSDN Library -> Web development -> HTML and Dynamic HTML -> SDK Documentation -> 
About Dynamic Properties

- Original Message -
From: Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:11 pm
Subject: RE: OT: css, dhtml question

> Perhaps a better explaination is in order.  The app is internal 
> for an
> IE5.5+ only audience.  It's quite visually complex, and I'm trying 
> to keep
> the number of page loads down as the presentation changes as much as
> possible.  I have a base page set up like this:
> 
> +---+
> |   |
> +---+---+---+
> |   |   |   |
> |   |   |   |
> |   |   |   |
> |   |   |   |
> |   |   |   |
> +---+---+---+
> |   |
> +---+
> 
> The top 4 content areas all have variable content, while the 
> footer is
> static.  As well, the top 4 areas might not all be there, and they 
> might be
> added or removed client-side.  This is all working just dandy 
> using absolute
> positioning and hiding stuff.  However, I need to slap that footer 
> bar at
> the bottom, and I need it to start below the other content areas (no
> overlap).  I can't figure out a good way to do that, because I 
> don't know
> how tall the middle 3 areas are (if they are present) until the client
> renders them.
> 
> I might well be pursueing a pipe-dream, in which case I'll find 
> another way,
> but it seems like this should be possible.
> 
> thanks,
> barneyb
> 
> ---
> Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
> AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> voice : 360.671.8708 x12
> fax   : 360.647.5351
> 
> www.audiencecentral.com
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jason Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:53 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question
> >
> >
> > Personally - I handle footers in .cfm includes.. I find it much 
> easier -
> > and simply it includes it at the end of the code. So on shorter and
> > longer pages it simply displays at end.
> >
> > If you needed to actually "attach" a footer to the bottom of the 
> browser> - something like
> > 
> > would work.
> >
> > I added z-index more for demonstration - The issue is - that you can
> > overalp content. Unlike using an include - that will put it at the
> > bottom no matter what - you will need to scroll to get content 
> beyone> viewable screen -but footer will hang on to the bottom edge.
> >
> > Use it carefully because there are almost always some trouble spots.
> > IF your footer can overlap content - not a biggie. In one case I 
> used it
> > - I assigned z-index of -100 ( which also has it's own bugs on 
> browser> versions) so on shorter page content the footer didn't 
> interrupt.>
> > hope that helps
> > jay miller
> >
> > Barney Boisvert wrote:
> > > Totally unrelated, but on the same topic.  How might I go about
> > putting a
> > > footer bar at the bottom of my page using CSS, rather than a
> > table.  I've
> > > had no problems with topbars, sidebars (either side) and the
> > main content
> > > pane(s), but I can't get stuff to sit at the bottom of the page
> > correctly.
> > > I tried 'bottom' (complementing top) but it seems to be tied 
> to the
> > > browser's size, not the page's size, which doesn't work if the
> > page scrolls,
> > > at least on IE6.
> > >
> > > Use JS to set it dynamically?
> > >
> > > footerbar.style.top = Math.max(menubar.style.height,
> > > contentpane.style.height) + topbar.style.height;
> > >
> > > that seems like a horrible way to do it to me.
> > >
> > > barneyb
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
> > > AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > voice : 360.671.8708 x12
> > > fax   : 360.647.5351
> > >
> > > www.audiencecentral.com
> > >
> > >
> > >>-Original Message-
> > >>From: charlie griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:18 AM
> > >>To: CF-Talk
> > >>Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>may want to give the  a width...
> > >>
> > >>it might defined in the 'sidebar' class in the .css...i was too
> > >>lazy to look
> > >>:)
> > >>
> > >>charlie
> > >>
> > >>Mark A. Kruger - CFG writes:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why this 
> page doesn't
> > >>>render correctly in IE?
> > >>>
> > >>>http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp
> > >>>
> > >>>thanks!
> > >>>
> > >>>-mk
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > 
> 
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Re: OT: css, dhtml question

[Jochem van Dieten]

Barney Boisvert wrote:
> 
> +---+
> |   |
> +---+---+---+
> |   |   |   |
> |   |   |   |
> |   |   |   |
> |   |   |   |
> |   |   |   |
> +---+---+---+
> |   |
> +---+
> 
> The top 4 content areas all have variable content, while the footer is
> static.  As well, the top 4 areas might not all be there, and they might be
> added or removed client-side.  This is all working just dandy using absolute
> positioning and hiding stuff.  However, I need to slap that footer bar at
> the bottom, and I need it to start below the other content areas (no
> overlap).  I can't figure out a good way to do that, because I don't know
> how tall the middle 3 areas are (if they are present) until the client
> renders them.

http://www.alistapart.com/stories/flexiblelayouts/

Jochem


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RE: Looping list in batch mode: best way?

[Ben Doom]

If it were me, I'd take the list and turn it into an array.  You could then
(for example) store the array in a persistent scope (ie session, client,
application) and specify start and stop variables in a for-type loop.

HTH.


--  Ben Doom
Programmer & General Lackey
Moonbow Software, Inc

: -Original Message-
: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:54 AM
: To: CF-Talk
: Subject: Looping list in batch mode: best way?
:
:
: We are being passed a comma delimited list with thousands of
: records...want
: to break into batches of 100.
:
: With  you can't specify a range of
: 1-100 can you?  What is the best way to handle this situation?
:
: Idea is then we would then update the database table to reflect
: it has been
: used, and not use again, then rerun the query which returns a list by
: design.  This seems long and overly complex.
:
: Thanks a million!!
:
: Regards,
:
: Eric J. Hoffman
: DataStream Connexion
: www.datastreamconnexion.com
:
:
:
:
: 
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OT - Incorporating Yahoo! Maps

[ecreese]

Has anyone incorporated Yahoo! maps on their website. I have a site with property 
listings and want to use their map service to plot a map for the user. Any permission 
issues or licensing I should be aware of with using this?

Eric


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RE: Looping list in batch mode: best way?

[Philip Arnold]

> We are being passed a comma delimited list with thousands of
> records...want to break into batches of 100.
>
> With  you can't specify
> a range of 1-100 can you?  What is the best way to handle
> this situation?
>
> Idea is then we would then update the database table to
> reflect it has been used, and not use again, then rerun the
> query which returns a list by design.  This seems long and
> overly complex.


You could use ListToArray() and go through in blocks of 100

That way you can break it into whatever chunks you find works best for
you


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Re: OT - Incorporating Yahoo! Maps

[Matt Robertson]

Read Paragraph 4 of their terms of use (the link at the bottom of the maps home page). 
 You can't reproduce the map, nor can you use it for any commercial purpose.

---
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 MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
---


-- Original Message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 13:40:40 -0600 (CST)

>Has anyone incorporated Yahoo! maps on their website. I have a site with property 
>listings and want to use their map service to plot a map for the user. Any permission 
>issues or licensing I should be aware of with using this?
>
>Eric
>
>
>Get your own free email account from
>http://www.popmail.com
>
>
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RE: CFMX cannot handle charset for URL variables

[Murat Demirci]

I'm IE 6 with SP 1 and the option "Send URL strings as unicode" is checked.


-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX cannot handle charset for URL variables

Murat Demirci wrote:
> When I type a unicode string in the form field and submit the form, there
is
> no problem. However when I type the same unicode string in the address bar
> the problem occurs. Similarly when I use 
> in a page the problem repeats.

Most likely you are not using unicode in the address bar. Are you sure 
your browser is not submitting the string in whatever encodig is native 
for it? What do the URLEncoded query_strings look like?

Jochem


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Re: A Quick Question to Raymond RE: Your PowerPoint presentation...

[Jeff]

on 3/24/03 1:40 PM, Raymond Camden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I'm trying to remember myself - guess I should learn to use the Notes
> field a bit more. ;)
> 
> I believe the idea was to hack your own session.urltoken. Basically,
> every link would have x=YYY, where Y would be an encrypted form of
> the username and password. Then you would decrypt the value and relogin
> using cflogin each hit. Of course, that could be dangerous if someone
> breaks your encryption.
> 
> As for the session thing - what you would do is simply store the
> username and password (and roles) in session values, then use
> session.urlToken. This would be a bit simpler for sure, although you
> would want to use the UUID for Session Token setting.
> 
> Hope that makes sense.

Yeah, it does. I ran across that bit this weekend and was curious how you
tied up the presentation, and if anything you had added there at the end was
something worthwhile following up on. It was, and I'm glad you remembered...

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Re: JetNexus for IIS

[Adam Churvis]

Before you do anything, Bill, give me a call and I'll get you a trial
version of our product LoRCAT, the Load Reduction and Concentration Analysis
Tool for ColdFusion.  It not only performs a compile-time compression of all
your ColdFusion, JS, CSS, SQL, etc., but it surgically analyzes your entire
code base and shows you exactly where to concentrate your performance
enhancement efforts.  The speed increases are pretty phenomenal after you go
through LoRCAT's Analysis and Production cycles.

We haven't really formally announced it yet because our new site to sell it
isn't up yet, but I can extend your trial period until the end of April to
get around that problem.

Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis
Member of Team Macromedia

Advanced Intensive ColdFusion MX Training
ColdFusion MX and SQL Server 2000 Class:
April 28, 2003 - May 2, 2003
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- Original Message -
From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 8:42 AM
Subject: JetNexus for IIS


> http://www.preactholdings.com/performance/
>
> Anyone use this software we're looking at using this software for
compression on our CF servers anyone have any thoughts and comments?
>
>
> "I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of gum"
> -- Rodey Piper in They Live
>
> --
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RE: OT: css, dhtml question

[Douglas.Knudsen]

>-Original Message-
>From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:11 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: OT: css, dhtml question
>
>
>Perhaps a better explaination is in order.  The app is internal for an
>IE5.5+ only audience.  It's quite visually complex, and I'm 
>trying to keep
>the number of page loads down as the presentation changes as much as
>possible.  I have a base page set up like this:
>
>+---+
>|   |
>+---+---+---+
>|   |   |   |
>|   |   |   |
>|   |   |   |
>|   |   |   |
>|   |   |   |
>+---+---+---+
>|   |
>+---+
>
>The top 4 content areas all have variable content, while the footer is
>static.  As well, the top 4 areas might not all be there, and 
>they might be
>added or removed client-side.  This is all working just dandy 
>using absolute
>positioning and hiding stuff.  However, I need to slap that 
>footer bar at
>the bottom, and I need it to start below the other content areas (no
>overlap).  I can't figure out a good way to do that, because I 
>don't know
>how tall the middle 3 areas are (if they are present) until the client
>renders them.
>

perhaps you can run an onload event that looks at the hieghts and computes a new 
postion for this footer

Doug


>I might well be pursueing a pipe-dream, in which case I'll 
>find another way,
>but it seems like this should be possible.
>
>thanks,
>barneyb
>
>---
>Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
>AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>voice : 360.671.8708 x12
>fax   : 360.647.5351
>
>www.audiencecentral.com
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jason Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:53 AM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question
>>
>>
>> Personally - I handle footers in .cfm includes.. I find it 
>much easier -
>> and simply it includes it at the end of the code. So on shorter and
>> longer pages it simply displays at end.
>>
>> If you needed to actually "attach" a footer to the bottom of 
>the browser
>> - something like
>> 
>> would work.
>>
>> I added z-index more for demonstration - The issue is - that you can
>> overalp content. Unlike using an include - that will put it at the
>> bottom no matter what - you will need to scroll to get content beyone
>> viewable screen -but footer will hang on to the bottom edge.
>>
>> Use it carefully because there are almost always some trouble spots.
>> IF your footer can overlap content - not a biggie. In one 
>case I used it
>> - I assigned z-index of -100 ( which also has it's own bugs 
>on browser
>> versions) so on shorter page content the footer didn't interrupt.
>>
>> hope that helps
>> jay miller
>>
>> Barney Boisvert wrote:
>> > Totally unrelated, but on the same topic.  How might I go about
>> putting a
>> > footer bar at the bottom of my page using CSS, rather than a
>> table.  I've
>> > had no problems with topbars, sidebars (either side) and the
>> main content
>> > pane(s), but I can't get stuff to sit at the bottom of the page
>> correctly.
>> > I tried 'bottom' (complementing top) but it seems to be tied to the
>> > browser's size, not the page's size, which doesn't work if the
>> page scrolls,
>> > at least on IE6.
>> >
>> > Use JS to set it dynamically?
>> >
>> > footerbar.style.top = Math.max(menubar.style.height,
>> > contentpane.style.height) + topbar.style.height;
>> >
>> > that seems like a horrible way to do it to me.
>> >
>> > barneyb
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
>> > AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > voice : 360.671.8708 x12
>> > fax   : 360.647.5351
>> >
>> > www.audiencecentral.com
>> >
>> >
>> >>-Original Message-
>> >>From: charlie griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:18 AM
>> >>To: CF-Talk
>> >>Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>may want to give the  a width...
>> >>
>> >>it might defined in the 'sidebar' class in the .css...i was too
>> >>lazy to look
>> >>:)
>> >>
>> >>charlie
>> >>
>> >>Mark A. Kruger - CFG writes:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why 
>this page doesn't
>> >>>render correctly in IE?
>> >>>
>> >>>http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp
>> >>>
>> >>>thanks!
>> >>>
>> >>>-mk
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> 
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Supposedly Fixed Bug Not Fixed?

[Dave Carabetta]

<< Sorry for the double post, but I originally sent this on Sunday, where 
the low traffic might have missed this >>

In the Release Notes for U3, it claims that Bug 49064 which was "The cfwddx 
tag did not properly handle packets marked as version 0.9" was fixed.

However, while running CFMX for JRun with U3, I'm still receiving the
following error:

WDDX packet parse error at line 1, column -1. Relative URI "wddx_0090.dtd";
can not be resolved without a base URI..

Is anybody with a patched machine (standalone or MX for J2EE) and using WDDX 
running into this error?

Thanks,
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RE: CFMX Webservices hangup>>>

[Ezine]

Tyler,

perhaps if you CFHTTP to it first as a test with a timeout of 10 seconds of
something of that nature?  And, if an error occurs, trap it with cftry and
cfcatch..  and then display a message that states, "Sorry the x service
is not available now.  Check back in a few hours."   The CFHTTP would only
check if there is an issue contacting the server.   If the server is up..
but the page is returning a blank html page..  you may also want to
interrogate the contents of the page before you call the
web-service(cfhttp.filecontent) for a line of code that stays static..
(perhaps the XML declaration?).

-Zine

-Original Message-
From: Tyler Silcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX Webservices hangup>>>


Is there any way to check to see if a webservice exists before you call it?
We have a application on a shared server, and as far as we can tell whenever
the webservice can't connect to the remote server, it creates a
server-crashing thread that eventually brings ColdFusion.  It's on a shared
box, so we're in a panic trying to get it fixed...any ideas?

Tyler




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RE: CFMX cannot handle charset for URL variables

[Murat Demirci]

Found a solution!

CF MX has no bug! When I use a cflocation tag, I'll use URLEncodedFormat
function with a second hidden parameter "encoding" like:



URLEncodedFormat function converts double-byte chars to equivalent forms.
Very good!

But why URLEncodedFormat doesn't use the utf-8 by default? Or why
setEncoding("URL","UTF-8") function doesn't affect the URLEncodedFormat
function?

-Original Message-
From: Murat Demirci [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 7:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX cannot handle charset for URL variables

When I type a unicode string in the form field and submit the form, there is
no problem. However when I type the same unicode string in the address bar
the problem occurs. Similarly when I use 
in a page the problem repeats.

-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX cannot handle charset for URL variables

Murat Demirci wrote:
> I'm  working on IIS.

WFM

http://cfmx.oli.tudelft.nl/url.cfm

Jochem



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RE: Request for Review: "Variables in CFML

[Matt Robertson]

Sean wrote:
> I'd be interested to hear from folks - like Matt - who use them and 
> prefer them to session variables.

You can pretty much take Jon Hall's post and add 'me too' to that.  I
had horrifying experiences with disappearing session vars, mostly
related to code running on shared servers and the instability that comes
from relying on memory-based storage.  

Using cvars for session management insulated my apps from cf service
restarts, even cold reboots, so long as the next page request falls
within the inactivity-based 'session' expiration the app still retains
the user's session.  

Now, that's not the same environment as a cluster at all, but take that
and couple it to the hoops necessary to jump thru when using an app that
requires a lot of persistent vars (i.e. Step 1: copy to request scope.
Step 2 process Step 3 copy back to session scope, and use locks... Or
lock everything individually everywhere) compared to the relative
simplicity of simply using cvars in code.  

I never missed the inability to store complex values given the ability
to use CFWDDX to handle that issue.  This is extra coding just like the
locking I was whining about above, but my frequency of need for complex
values isn't anything like the frequency associated with locking, and
planning efficient use of same.

I've never had a site that had high enough traffic to be able to notice
the load coming off the cvar storage db, so I can't say at what point a
cvar-based session management scheme will fall down where a svar-based
one will not.

To me, cvars are simpler to use and are, in my admittedly not
all-encompassing experience, inherently more stable given their more
permanent storage medium (a db, of course).

Question: CFMX uses J2EE's session variables.  I'm not up on this at
all, but doesn't that mean I have to be using the much more expensive
Enterprise for J2EE?  

Happy Monday :)


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Re: Possible bug in Updater 3

[Marius Milosav]

Hi Collin,

Thanks for the quick response.
Actually the "real" name  of the query is not q. I just used q for the
example and the behavior still the same.


thanks
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- Original Message -
From: "Collin Tobin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:05 PM
Subject: RE: Possible bug in Updater 3


> Marius-
>
> I'm currently looking into this.  For now, I can see right away that if
you name your output something other than "q" when converting wddx2cfml,
which is the name of your original query, you should get your desired
output.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Collin Tobin
> CFMX QA Engineer
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Marius Milosav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:59 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Possible bug in Updater 3
>
>
> We have seen the following change in behavior in cfmx updater 3:
> 
>select id from  table
> 
> the id is integer 1;2; 3
>
> #valueList (q.id)# will return 1,2,3 in cfmx updater
2
> and 3
> if the query is converted to a wddx package and converted back to a query:
> 
>
> 
>
> now:
>
> #valueList (q.id)# will return
> 1.0,2.0,3.0 in updater 3 and it causing a lot of problems.
>
> Can anybody (MM) confirm this behavior
>
> Thanks
>
> Marius Milosav
> www.scorpiosoft.com
> It's not about technology, it's about people.
> Virtual Company (VICO) Application Demo
> www.scorpiosoft.com/vicodemo/login.cfm
>
>
> 
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RE: OT: css, dhtml question

[Barney Boisvert]

Perhaps a better explaination is in order.  The app is internal for an
IE5.5+ only audience.  It's quite visually complex, and I'm trying to keep
the number of page loads down as the presentation changes as much as
possible.  I have a base page set up like this:

+---+
|   |
+---+---+---+
|   |   |   |
|   |   |   |
|   |   |   |
|   |   |   |
|   |   |   |
+---+---+---+
|   |
+---+

The top 4 content areas all have variable content, while the footer is
static.  As well, the top 4 areas might not all be there, and they might be
added or removed client-side.  This is all working just dandy using absolute
positioning and hiding stuff.  However, I need to slap that footer bar at
the bottom, and I need it to start below the other content areas (no
overlap).  I can't figure out a good way to do that, because I don't know
how tall the middle 3 areas are (if they are present) until the client
renders them.

I might well be pursueing a pipe-dream, in which case I'll find another way,
but it seems like this should be possible.

thanks,
barneyb

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> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:53 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question
>
>
> Personally - I handle footers in .cfm includes.. I find it much easier -
> and simply it includes it at the end of the code. So on shorter and
> longer pages it simply displays at end.
>
> If you needed to actually "attach" a footer to the bottom of the browser
> - something like
> 
> would work.
>
> I added z-index more for demonstration - The issue is - that you can
> overalp content. Unlike using an include - that will put it at the
> bottom no matter what - you will need to scroll to get content beyone
> viewable screen -but footer will hang on to the bottom edge.
>
> Use it carefully because there are almost always some trouble spots.
> IF your footer can overlap content - not a biggie. In one case I used it
> - I assigned z-index of -100 ( which also has it's own bugs on browser
> versions) so on shorter page content the footer didn't interrupt.
>
> hope that helps
> jay miller
>
> Barney Boisvert wrote:
> > Totally unrelated, but on the same topic.  How might I go about
> putting a
> > footer bar at the bottom of my page using CSS, rather than a
> table.  I've
> > had no problems with topbars, sidebars (either side) and the
> main content
> > pane(s), but I can't get stuff to sit at the bottom of the page
> correctly.
> > I tried 'bottom' (complementing top) but it seems to be tied to the
> > browser's size, not the page's size, which doesn't work if the
> page scrolls,
> > at least on IE6.
> >
> > Use JS to set it dynamically?
> >
> > footerbar.style.top = Math.max(menubar.style.height,
> > contentpane.style.height) + topbar.style.height;
> >
> > that seems like a horrible way to do it to me.
> >
> > barneyb
> >
> > ---
> > Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
> > AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > voice : 360.671.8708 x12
> > fax   : 360.647.5351
> >
> > www.audiencecentral.com
> >
> >
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: charlie griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:18 AM
> >>To: CF-Talk
> >>Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question
> >>
> >>
> >>may want to give the  a width...
> >>
> >>it might defined in the 'sidebar' class in the .css...i was too
> >>lazy to look
> >>:)
> >>
> >>charlie
> >>
> >>Mark A. Kruger - CFG writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why this page doesn't
> >>>render correctly in IE?
> >>>
> >>>http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp
> >>>
> >>>thanks!
> >>>
> >>>-mk
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> 
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CFMX Upgrade Issue and Solution

[Dave Sueltenfuss]

Good afternoon,

I just upgraded my production web server to CFMX Pro this past weekend, and
encountered an interesting error I wished to share with the group

On of the functions that we use CF for is web based reporting from the
Lawson Financial Package, including a PO Printout form. Before the upgrade,
the PO Print worked without any issues. After the upgrade, certain PO's
would not printout for us, and instead returned the following error.

Error Executing Database Query.[MERANT][SequeLink JDBC Driver][ODBC
Socket][Oracle][ODBC]Restricted data type attribute violation. The specific
sequence of files included or processed is:
C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\Dev\Lawson\poscreen.cfm 
As you can see, the error message does not make much sense. We went so far
as to restore the Test server to CF 5 and make sure that the page worked
properly on the previous version. After much research, we found that the
error was linked to the case statement below.

CASE
when lawson.poline.taxable_flag = 'Y' Then
(((lawson.poline.tax_code/100)*lawson.poline.taxbl_unt_cst)*
lawson.poline.quantity)
End  as taxamt

The statement above does not include an else statement. For some reason, CF
5 Pro did not care about this, but CF MX was returning an error, even though
the page compiled fine.  Once the else statement was added, the problem went
away.

I just wanted to share this issue and solution with the group, in case
anyone else comes across a similar issue

Any questions, please let me know

Thanks
 
Dave Sueltenfuss
Application Developer
Arch Wireless
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RE: Possible bug in Updater 3

[Collin Tobin]

I retract that workaround--sorry.  I will file a bug.


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-Original Message-
From: Marius Milosav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Possible bug in Updater 3


We have seen the following change in behavior in cfmx updater 3:

   select id from  table

the id is integer 1;2; 3

#valueList (q.id)# will return 1,2,3 in cfmx updater 2
and 3
if the query is converted to a wddx package and converted back to a query:




now:

#valueList (q.id)# will return
1.0,2.0,3.0 in updater 3 and it causing a lot of problems.

Can anybody (MM) confirm this behavior

Thanks

Marius Milosav
www.scorpiosoft.com
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RE: CFMX cannot handle charset for URL variables

[Murat Demirci]

I'm not sure now whether it is a CF MX problem or not. It might be a browser
problem.

Any more ideas?

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 5:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX cannot handle charset for URL variables

> Do you know CF MX has still problems with Unicode and other charsets.

hardly any.

> When I use setEncoding("url","utf-8"), CF MX displays some double-byte
(the
> unicode number over than 255) as nothing. It displays nothing.

show some code.



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RE: CFMX Webservices hangup>>>

[Robert Bailey]

This is a complete hack, and I am sure there may be a better way to do it,
but when I call a service, I go ahead and retrieve the WSDL via CFHTTP,
www.thedomain.com/smoething.cfc?wsdl and if there is a connection error I
will not try to consume the service.

Thanks!
Robert Bailey
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-Original Message-
From: Tyler Silcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX Webservices hangup>>>


Is there any way to check to see if a webservice exists before you call it?
We have a application on a shared server, and as far as we can tell whenever
the webservice can't connect to the remote server, it creates a
server-crashing thread that eventually brings ColdFusion.  It's on a shared
box, so we're in a panic trying to get it fixed...any ideas?

Tyler




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RE: CFMX Webservices hangup>>>

[Mosh Teitelbaum]

I'm assuming you've wrapped the cal in a try/catch block?  You can always
use CFHTTP to try to access the webservice and, on successful connect, use
CFINVOKE to actually consume the service.  It means making 2 hits to the web
service tho...

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> -Original Message-
> From: Tyler Silcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:46 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CFMX Webservices hangup>>>
>
>
> Is there any way to check to see if a webservice exists before
> you call it?  We have a application on a shared server, and as
> far as we can tell whenever the webservice can't connect to the
> remote server, it creates a server-crashing thread that
> eventually brings ColdFusion.  It's on a shared box, so we're in
> a panic trying to get it fixed...any ideas?
>
> Tyler
>
>
>
> 
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RE: CFMX Webservices hangup>>>

[Bryan F. Hogan]

You can check it via the factory service. But this is probably unavailable
to you on a shared host. Why not wrap your web service call with
cftry/cfcatch


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-Original Message-
From: Tyler Silcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX Webservices hangup>>>


Is there any way to check to see if a webservice exists before you call it?
We have a application on a shared server, and as far as we can tell whenever
the webservice can't connect to the remote server, it creates a
server-crashing thread that eventually brings ColdFusion.  It's on a shared
box, so we're in a panic trying to get it fixed...any ideas?

Tyler




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RE: TextArea (WYSIWYG) Editor

[Philip Arnold]

> Would someone be able to suggest a textarea (WYSIWYG) editor
> that will work in Mac IE 5?

ActivEdit from CFDev works on Mac and NS now, and with no plug in

Although, the older Mac and NS versions are Java and very limited


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RE: Possible bug in Updater 3

[Collin Tobin]

Marius-

I'm currently looking into this.  For now, I can see right away that if you name your 
output something other than "q" when converting wddx2cfml, which is the name of your 
original query, you should get your desired output.

Thanks.


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-Original Message-
From: Marius Milosav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Possible bug in Updater 3


We have seen the following change in behavior in cfmx updater 3:

   select id from  table

the id is integer 1;2; 3

#valueList (q.id)# will return 1,2,3 in cfmx updater 2
and 3
if the query is converted to a wddx package and converted back to a query:




now:

#valueList (q.id)# will return
1.0,2.0,3.0 in updater 3 and it causing a lot of problems.

Can anybody (MM) confirm this behavior

Thanks

Marius Milosav
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RE: OT: css, dhtml question

[Tim Laureska]

Barney... just a suggestion... check out these CSS lists:
http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/css-foundations
http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d


-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT: css, dhtml question

Totally unrelated, but on the same topic.  How might I go about putting
a
footer bar at the bottom of my page using CSS, rather than a table.
I've
had no problems with topbars, sidebars (either side) and the main
content
pane(s), but I can't get stuff to sit at the bottom of the page
correctly.
I tried 'bottom' (complementing top) but it seems to be tied to the
browser's size, not the page's size, which doesn't work if the page
scrolls,
at least on IE6.

Use JS to set it dynamically?

footerbar.style.top = Math.max(menubar.style.height,
contentpane.style.height) + topbar.style.height;

that seems like a horrible way to do it to me.

barneyb

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> -Original Message-
> From: charlie griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:18 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question
>
>
> may want to give the  a width...
>
> it might defined in the 'sidebar' class in the .css...i was too
> lazy to look
> :)
>
> charlie
>
> Mark A. Kruger - CFG writes:
>
> > Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why this page
doesn't
> > render correctly in IE?
> >
> > http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > -mk
> >
> >
> >
> 

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CFMX Webservices hangup>>>

[Tyler Silcox]

Is there any way to check to see if a webservice exists before you call it?  We have a 
application on a shared server, and as far as we can tell whenever the webservice 
can't connect to the remote server, it creates a server-crashing thread that 
eventually brings ColdFusion.  It's on a shared box, so we're in a panic trying to get 
it fixed...any ideas?

Tyler



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Re: OT: css, dhtml question

[Jason Miller]

Personally - I handle footers in .cfm includes.. I find it much easier - 
and simply it includes it at the end of the code. So on shorter and 
longer pages it simply displays at end.

If you needed to actually "attach" a footer to the bottom of the browser 
- something like

would work.

I added z-index more for demonstration - The issue is - that you can 
overalp content. Unlike using an include - that will put it at the 
bottom no matter what - you will need to scroll to get content beyone 
viewable screen -but footer will hang on to the bottom edge.

Use it carefully because there are almost always some trouble spots.
IF your footer can overlap content - not a biggie. In one case I used it 
- I assigned z-index of -100 ( which also has it's own bugs on browser 
versions) so on shorter page content the footer didn't interrupt.

hope that helps
jay miller

Barney Boisvert wrote:
> Totally unrelated, but on the same topic.  How might I go about putting a
> footer bar at the bottom of my page using CSS, rather than a table.  I've
> had no problems with topbars, sidebars (either side) and the main content
> pane(s), but I can't get stuff to sit at the bottom of the page correctly.
> I tried 'bottom' (complementing top) but it seems to be tied to the
> browser's size, not the page's size, which doesn't work if the page scrolls,
> at least on IE6.
> 
> Use JS to set it dynamically?
> 
> footerbar.style.top = Math.max(menubar.style.height,
> contentpane.style.height) + topbar.style.height;
> 
> that seems like a horrible way to do it to me.
> 
> barneyb
> 
> ---
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> AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
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> 
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> 
> 
>>-Original Message-
>>From: charlie griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:18 AM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question
>>
>>
>>may want to give the  a width...
>>
>>it might defined in the 'sidebar' class in the .css...i was too
>>lazy to look
>>:)
>>
>>charlie
>>
>>Mark A. Kruger - CFG writes:
>>
>>
>>>Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why this page doesn't
>>>render correctly in IE?
>>>
>>>http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp
>>>
>>>thanks!
>>>
>>>-mk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> 
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RE: A Quick Question to Raymond RE: Your PowerPoint presentation...

[Raymond Camden]

I'm trying to remember myself - guess I should learn to use the Notes
field a bit more. ;)

I believe the idea was to hack your own session.urltoken. Basically,
every link would have x=YYY, where Y would be an encrypted form of
the username and password. Then you would decrypt the value and relogin
using cflogin each hit. Of course, that could be dangerous if someone
breaks your encryption. 

As for the session thing - what you would do is simply store the
username and password (and roles) in session values, then use
session.urlToken. This would be a bit simpler for sure, although you
would want to use the UUID for Session Token setting.

Hope that makes sense.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:18 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: A Quick Question to Raymond RE: Your PowerPoint 
> presentation...
> 
> 
> Raymond,
> 
> I was reading over your Powerpoint presentation last week 
> (ColdFusionMX Application Security), and I just remembered 
> something I had a quick question about...
> 
> On the last page of the presentation you have the following:
> 
> Extra - Cookie-less Security
> 
> Pass encrypted key in URL
> Like cookie-less session
> Use session variable
> Need to pass session.urlToken
> Need to coordinate session/login timeout.
> 
> I was just wondering what this was referring to, and if maybe 
> you could expand a little more on it...Specifically the "Pass 
> encrypted key in URL" part. Also the pass session.urlToken 
> part too...what's the deal with that?
> 
> 
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RE: OT: css, dhtml question

[Barney Boisvert]

Totally unrelated, but on the same topic.  How might I go about putting a
footer bar at the bottom of my page using CSS, rather than a table.  I've
had no problems with topbars, sidebars (either side) and the main content
pane(s), but I can't get stuff to sit at the bottom of the page correctly.
I tried 'bottom' (complementing top) but it seems to be tied to the
browser's size, not the page's size, which doesn't work if the page scrolls,
at least on IE6.

Use JS to set it dynamically?

footerbar.style.top = Math.max(menubar.style.height,
contentpane.style.height) + topbar.style.height;

that seems like a horrible way to do it to me.

barneyb

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> -Original Message-
> From: charlie griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:18 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question
>
>
> may want to give the  a width...
>
> it might defined in the 'sidebar' class in the .css...i was too
> lazy to look
> :)
>
> charlie
>
> Mark A. Kruger - CFG writes:
>
> > Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why this page doesn't
> > render correctly in IE?
> >
> > http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > -mk
> >
> >
> >
> 
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RE: OT: css, dhtml question

[Mark A. Kruger - CFG]

Thanks Jay - it's not my code (I'm not a CSS guy at all) - but the author
greatly appreciates your insight.

-Original Message-
From: Jason Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question


since i don't have to much time - I glanced at browser view only - no
source - And you have text all collapsing on each other - most often
that is the result of a display property.
display: none
display: block
display: inline
etc
OR position:asbolute vs position:relative.

It looks as if you need a display:block so the elements on the right
don't overlap the space set aside for the elements on the left.

Also - if your not using float: left - the items from right can overlap
left.

Also - it is possible you need clear:right - depending on how you have
your div's and such set up.

Or - if your using some positioning attributes in . style properties
which really should be # class .

It looks like it may even be a combination of each of those. I recommend
going to alistapart.com - reading some of their 2 column tutorials.
hope that helps
jay miller



Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote:
> Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why this page doesn't
> render correctly in IE?
>
> http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp
>
> thanks!
>
> -mk
>
>
>

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RE: CFINCLUDES and RE: CFC Performance Best Practice

[webguy]

Actually I disagree with this.

It is true that breaking up code into smaller blocks that are contained in
several files can make code hard to follow. Sometime you go from

 template -> includes -> tags -> storedprocs -> to database -> triggers..

which can be pretty confusing.

However the benefit of this approch becomes evident when you start changing
code.
And good documentation will help you here...

Of course there is a difference between good abstraction and just writting
spaghetti code, and I've written both:-)

WG

-Original Message-
From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 March 2003 18:01
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFINCLUDES and RE: CFC Performance Best Practice


Ok Sean, on the performance I read that somewhere but cannot recall where,
when I do I will point it out.  With regard to coding bad practice I have no
doubts that multiple layers of nested includes-custom tags are bad practice
as they make code very hard to read and follow.  Our opinion here at
Webapper is that all who see our code should be able to fully understand
what we did, how and why and even with the best of commenting multi-level
nested includes are very hard to follow.

Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
Webapper Services LLC
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Blog http://www.webapper.net

Webapper 

-Original Message-
From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFINCLUDES and RE: CFC Performance Best Practice

On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 09:30 US/Pacific, Mike Brunt wrote:
> Am I right in my assumption that nested CFINCLUDES/CUSTOM TAGS cause
> performance issues in CFMX?  I am fully aware that they are bad coding
> practice but just wanted to clarify this point.

News to me... both that they supposedly cause performance issues and
that they are bad coding practice... could you clarify for me?

Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/

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Re: OT: css, dhtml question

[charlie griefer]

may want to give the  a width... 

it might defined in the 'sidebar' class in the .css...i was too lazy to look 
:) 

charlie 

Mark A. Kruger - CFG writes: 

> Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why this page doesn't
> render correctly in IE? 
> 
> http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp 
> 
> thanks! 
> 
> -mk 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: scrolling banner ads?

[charlie griefer]

Jon: 

check out http://www.dynamicdrive.com 

hth,
charlie 

Jon Block writes: 

> I realize this isn't quite the right place for this question but I'm sure
> many of you know the answer. Geocities home pages have a banner in the top
> right that will expand when you click on the expand & collapse buttons. I
> remember it used to actually scroll along the right side of the page as the
> user moved the scroller around. Either way, does anybody know where I can
> get a watered down example of how that works? I looked into the source code
> and its a ton of Javascript that I don't want to spend the rest of my life
> weeding through. 
> 
> Thanks!
> -Jon
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RE: css, dhtml question

[Joshua Miller]

You're using Absolute Positioning and they're all set to be left:5px

Absolute means absolute from the top/left corner of the browser, not
from the DIV that they're contained within.

Change the two DIVs inside the SideBar DIV from left:5px to left:130px;

Also, instead of setting your height for the SideBar DIV to 1000px, try
just using 100% instead. That way if your content is longer than 1000px
the SideBar will still render.

Good luck!

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-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: css, dhtml question


Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why this page doesn't
render correctly in IE?

http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp

thanks!

-mk



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Possible bug in Updater 3

[Marius Milosav]

We have seen the following change in behavior in cfmx updater 3:

   select id from  table

the id is integer 1;2; 3

#valueList (q.id)# will return 1,2,3 in cfmx updater 2
and 3
if the query is converted to a wddx package and converted back to a query:




now:

#valueList (q.id)# will return
1.0,2.0,3.0 in updater 3 and it causing a lot of problems.

Can anybody (MM) confirm this behavior

Thanks

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Re: OT: css, dhtml question

[Jason Miller]

since i don't have to much time - I glanced at browser view only - no 
source - And you have text all collapsing on each other - most often 
that is the result of a display property.
display: none
display: block
display: inline
etc
OR position:asbolute vs position:relative.

It looks as if you need a display:block so the elements on the right 
don't overlap the space set aside for the elements on the left.

Also - if your not using float: left - the items from right can overlap 
left.

Also - it is possible you need clear:right - depending on how you have 
your div's and such set up.

Or - if your using some positioning attributes in . style properties 
which really should be # class .

It looks like it may even be a combination of each of those. I recommend 
going to alistapart.com - reading some of their 2 column tutorials.
hope that helps
jay miller



Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote:
> Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why this page doesn't
> render correctly in IE?
> 
> http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp
> 
> thanks!
> 
> -mk
> 
> 
> 
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Re: IBM JRE with ColdFusion MX

[Christian Cantrell]

I'm using IBM's 1.3.1 in a production CFMX environment with very good 
results:

--
[www:cantrell]$ java -version
java version "1.3.1"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.3.1)
Classic VM (build 1.3.1, J2RE 1.3.1 IBM build cxia32131-20021102 (JIT 
enabled: jitc))
--

Christian

On Friday, March 21, 2003, at 06:07 PM, Ruggiero, Kevin D wrote:

> I downloaded IBM JRE 1.3.0 to use with ColdFusion MX.  I'm now getting 
> some
> errors: javax/crypto/a (classdef not found).  Anybody else get this JRE
> working with coldfusion mx?  If so, did you have the same problems?
>
> Any info is VERY much appreciated!!!
>

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