date:20210318

FWIW, I've had good results with Hella Marine nav lights as replacements.  

 

Hella marine - Hella Marine  

 

From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 8:55 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Danny Haughey 
Subject: Stus-List Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement

 

Hello all,

 

I need to replace my masthead (steaming)/Deck Light.  The existing Aqua
Signal light doesn't impress me as the deck light lens fell off at some
point and the deck light didn't work.  So, Staying away from Aqua Signal.

 

I've been looking and these light range in price from around $100 all the
way up to well over $500.  I've seem Marine Beam, with good reviews, at
about $125 and the Signal Mate, with good reviews at about $450.

 

I don't want to spend unnecessarily but, I'm leaning toward the Signal Mate.
It was good reputation, been around a while and is supposed to be well made.
Of course the reviews on the Marine beam say they are well made.  There are
plenty of bad reviews about the aqua signal.  

 

I was hoping some of you could offer some experiences and advise.

 

Thanks,

Danny

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Stus-List Re: Keel Repair

2021-03-18 Thread John McCrea via CnC-List

Be sure to examine your stringers and aft area glass around the keel. We did 
the same last summer and I have a 12k check on my desk from Geico to fix it. 
Caused stringer damage and some delamination as well when the after end 
compressed. 

 

John McCrea

Talisman

1979 36-1

Mystic, CT 06355

 

From: John McLaughlin via CnC-List  
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 8:02 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: johnr...@aol.com
Subject: Stus-List Keel Repair

 

I tried to move a rock with my keel last season and put a ding in the forward 
point.  Lumped up some of the lead.  Did not remove any of it.  Suggestions on 
repair are welcome.  This is a C&C 29-2. 

 

John McLaughlin

Chelsea Yacht Club

Chelsea on Hudson, NY

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Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement

I replaced my Aqua Signal with the marine beam.  Perfect replacement fit.
No problem.  Highly recommend.  I also did Aqua Signal LEDs on the
spreaders.  Very low profile and they work phenomenally - almost too bright!

https://store.marinebeam.com/led-masthead-foredeck-combination-light/

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CdFzOH89I3fwlZeumTcWlLxQGST9Mn_S/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gIzwa9aDe-08QwoXbRkiSKvJpeaHpOkU/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZQiyoFpaXQ5qMJ82CfCZY1GUoUKmx-MM/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C9XMVAymHLr3240v5wFePlXiVGKJG6VS/view?usp=drivesdk


All the best,

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD


On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 08:55 Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I need to replace my masthead (steaming)/Deck Light.  The existing Aqua
> Signal light doesn't impress me as the deck light lens fell off at some
> point and the deck light didn't work.  So, Staying away from Aqua Signal.
>
> I've been looking and these light range in price from around $100 all the
> way up to well over $500.  I've seem Marine Beam, with good reviews, at
> about $125 and the Signal Mate, with good reviews at about $450.
>
> I don't want to spend unnecessarily but, I'm leaning toward the Signal
> Mate.   It was good reputation, been around a while and is supposed to be
> well made.  Of course the reviews on the Marine beam say they are well
> made.  There are plenty of bad reviews about the aqua signal.
>
> I was hoping some of you could offer some experiences and advise.
>
> Thanks,
> Danny
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement

2021-03-18 Thread David Swensen via CnC-List

Josh, Lets talk about your mast and spreaders. What did you use to paint
them? They look great.

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 9:54 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I replaced my Aqua Signal with the marine beam.  Perfect replacement fit.
> No problem.  Highly recommend.  I also did Aqua Signal LEDs on the
> spreaders.  Very low profile and they work phenomenally - almost too bright!
>
> https://store.marinebeam.com/led-masthead-foredeck-combination-light/
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CdFzOH89I3fwlZeumTcWlLxQGST9Mn_S/view?usp=drivesdk
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gIzwa9aDe-08QwoXbRkiSKvJpeaHpOkU/view?usp=drivesdk
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZQiyoFpaXQ5qMJ82CfCZY1GUoUKmx-MM/view?usp=drivesdk
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C9XMVAymHLr3240v5wFePlXiVGKJG6VS/view?usp=drivesdk
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 08:55 Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I need to replace my masthead (steaming)/Deck Light.  The existing Aqua
>> Signal light doesn't impress me as the deck light lens fell off at some
>> point and the deck light didn't work.  So, Staying away from Aqua Signal.
>>
>> I've been looking and these light range in price from around $100 all the
>> way up to well over $500.  I've seem Marine Beam, with good reviews, at
>> about $125 and the Signal Mate, with good reviews at about $450.
>>
>> I don't want to spend unnecessarily but, I'm leaning toward the Signal
>> Mate.   It was good reputation, been around a while and is supposed to be
>> well made.  Of course the reviews on the Marine beam say they are well
>> made.  There are plenty of bad reviews about the aqua signal.
>>
>> I was hoping some of you could offer some experiences and advise.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Danny
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help
>> with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list -
>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> Thanks - Stu
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement

2021-03-18 Thread Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List

Was it difficult to fish the wires to the spreaders and did you hook up a
new switch at the helm station for the spreader lights?



On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 7:20 AM David Swensen via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Josh, Lets talk about your mast and spreaders. What did you use to paint
> them? They look great.
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 9:54 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I replaced my Aqua Signal with the marine beam.  Perfect replacement
>> fit.  No problem.  Highly recommend.  I also did Aqua Signal LEDs on the
>> spreaders.  Very low profile and they work phenomenally - almost too bright!
>>
>> https://store.marinebeam.com/led-masthead-foredeck-combination-light/
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CdFzOH89I3fwlZeumTcWlLxQGST9Mn_S/view?usp=drivesdk
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gIzwa9aDe-08QwoXbRkiSKvJpeaHpOkU/view?usp=drivesdk
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZQiyoFpaXQ5qMJ82CfCZY1GUoUKmx-MM/view?usp=drivesdk
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C9XMVAymHLr3240v5wFePlXiVGKJG6VS/view?usp=drivesdk
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 08:55 Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I need to replace my masthead (steaming)/Deck Light.  The existing Aqua
>>> Signal light doesn't impress me as the deck light lens fell off at some
>>> point and the deck light didn't work.  So, Staying away from Aqua Signal.
>>>
>>> I've been looking and these light range in price from around $100 all
>>> the way up to well over $500.  I've seem Marine Beam, with good reviews, at
>>> about $125 and the Signal Mate, with good reviews at about $450.
>>>
>>> I don't want to spend unnecessarily but, I'm leaning toward the Signal
>>> Mate.   It was good reputation, been around a while and is supposed to be
>>> well made.  Of course the reviews on the Marine beam say they are well
>>> made.  There are plenty of bad reviews about the aqua signal.
>>>
>>> I was hoping some of you could offer some experiences and advise.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Danny
>>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help
>>> with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list -
>>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>>> Thanks - Stu
>>
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help
>> with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list -
>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> Thanks - Stu
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
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costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
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Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement

The wires fit easily enough but really it is such a short run I'm not sure
it was beneficial.  I wired them to the same terminal as the deck light in
the deck/masthead combo.  I figure if I'm turning on one then I probably
want them all.  🤷‍♂️ Maybe not.  But if I want to change it the terminal
board is easily accessed in the overhead where the mast passes through the
deck.

Josh

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 10:29 Kevin Driscoll  wrote:

> Was it difficult to fish the wires to the spreaders and did you hook up a
> new switch at the helm station for the spreader lights?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 7:20 AM David Swensen via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Josh, Lets talk about your mast and spreaders. What did you use to paint
>> them? They look great.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 9:54 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I replaced my Aqua Signal with the marine beam.  Perfect replacement
>>> fit.  No problem.  Highly recommend.  I also did Aqua Signal LEDs on the
>>> spreaders.  Very low profile and they work phenomenally - almost too bright!
>>>
>>> https://store.marinebeam.com/led-masthead-foredeck-combination-light/
>>>
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CdFzOH89I3fwlZeumTcWlLxQGST9Mn_S/view?usp=drivesdk
>>>
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gIzwa9aDe-08QwoXbRkiSKvJpeaHpOkU/view?usp=drivesdk
>>>
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZQiyoFpaXQ5qMJ82CfCZY1GUoUKmx-MM/view?usp=drivesdk
>>>
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C9XMVAymHLr3240v5wFePlXiVGKJG6VS/view?usp=drivesdk
>>>
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Josh Muckley
>>> S/V Sea Hawk
>>> 1989 C&C 37+
>>> Solomons, MD
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 08:55 Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hello all,

 I need to replace my masthead (steaming)/Deck Light.  The existing Aqua
 Signal light doesn't impress me as the deck light lens fell off at some
 point and the deck light didn't work.  So, Staying away from Aqua Signal.

 I've been looking and these light range in price from around $100 all
 the way up to well over $500.  I've seem Marine Beam, with good reviews, at
 about $125 and the Signal Mate, with good reviews at about $450.

 I don't want to spend unnecessarily but, I'm leaning toward the Signal
 Mate.   It was good reputation, been around a while and is supposed to be
 well made.  Of course the reviews on the Marine beam say they are well
 made.  There are plenty of bad reviews about the aqua signal.

 I was hoping some of you could offer some experiences and advise.

 Thanks,
 Danny
 Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help
 with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list -
 use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
 Thanks - Stu
>>>
>>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help
>>> with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list -
>>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>>> Thanks - Stu
>>
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help
>> with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list -
>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> Thanks - Stu
>
>
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costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement [now mast rebuild]

The yard used awlgrip 2000, pearl gray if I recall correctly.  Stripped all
hardware and wiring, welded shut vestigial holes, ground them flat and then
primed and painted.  Re-wired, refitted, replaced all rod rigging.

Here is the link to the whole project.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1eSqX7wZP1r77hD84wDmGAQSI0Tqbn9xm

I pretty sure the next question is going to be "how much?"

~1k for each rod and hardware.  I have 4 shrouds on each side plus head and
back.  10 total

~3k for the paint job alone

All said and done it came to roughly 20k

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 10:19 David Swensen  wrote:

> Josh, Lets talk about your mast and spreaders. What did you use to paint
> them? They look great.
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 9:54 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I replaced my Aqua Signal with the marine beam.  Perfect replacement
>> fit.  No problem.  Highly recommend.  I also did Aqua Signal LEDs on the
>> spreaders.  Very low profile and they work phenomenally - almost too bright!
>>
>> https://store.marinebeam.com/led-masthead-foredeck-combination-light/
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CdFzOH89I3fwlZeumTcWlLxQGST9Mn_S/view?usp=drivesdk
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gIzwa9aDe-08QwoXbRkiSKvJpeaHpOkU/view?usp=drivesdk
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZQiyoFpaXQ5qMJ82CfCZY1GUoUKmx-MM/view?usp=drivesdk
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C9XMVAymHLr3240v5wFePlXiVGKJG6VS/view?usp=drivesdk
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 08:55 Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I need to replace my masthead (steaming)/Deck Light.  The existing Aqua
>>> Signal light doesn't impress me as the deck light lens fell off at some
>>> point and the deck light didn't work.  So, Staying away from Aqua Signal.
>>>
>>> I've been looking and these light range in price from around $100 all
>>> the way up to well over $500.  I've seem Marine Beam, with good reviews, at
>>> about $125 and the Signal Mate, with good reviews at about $450.
>>>
>>> I don't want to spend unnecessarily but, I'm leaning toward the Signal
>>> Mate.   It was good reputation, been around a while and is supposed to be
>>> well made.  Of course the reviews on the Marine beam say they are well
>>> made.  There are plenty of bad reviews about the aqua signal.
>>>
>>> I was hoping some of you could offer some experiences and advise.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Danny
>>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help
>>> with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list -
>>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>>> Thanks - Stu
>>
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help
>> with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list -
>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> Thanks - Stu
>
>
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costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List A4 VS Beta Marine 25 HP

I just got this blueprint. This is great if you are thinking of swapping out an 
Atomic 4 for a diesel. It shows both engines in side view overlaid.

 

http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/tech/BetaA4.jpg

 

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

 

 

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costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement [n ow mast rebuild]

2021-03-18 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List

I had already done all of my standing rigging and having the same done to my 
mast this year!  It looks amazing!  I had to replace my lower spreaders though 
as, one of them had a crack.  36 year old aluminum, I figured it was best to 
replace rather than repair.  I may do the upper spreaders next year. I Already 
went with hella spreader lights, they have a red or white light option, and the 
Lunasea tricolor/strobe/anchor for top of the mast.  The final light, 
masthead/deck, Its looking like I'll go with the Marine beam! Thanks Josh! Danny

-- Original Message --
From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
To: Undisclosed-recipients:;
Cc: Stus-List , Josh Muckley 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement [now 
mast rebuild]
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 10:45:46 -0400


The yard used awlgrip 2000, pearl gray if I recall correctly.  Stripped all 
hardware and wiring, welded shut vestigial holes, ground them flat and then 
primed and painted.  Re-wired, refitted, replaced all rod rigging. Here is the 
link to the whole 
project.https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1eSqX7wZP1r77hD84wDmGAQSI0Tqbn9xm
 I pretty sure the next question is going to be "how much?" ~1k for each rod 
and hardware.  I have 4 shrouds on each side plus head and back.  10 total  ~3k 
for the paint job alone All said and done it came to roughly 20k Josh Muckley 
S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+Solomons, MD 
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 10:19 David Swensen  
wrote:Josh, Lets talk about your mast and spreaders. What did you use to paint 
them? They look great.
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 9:54 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 wrote:I replaced my Aqua Signal with the marine beam.  
Perfect replacement fit.  No problem.  Highly recommend.  I also did Aqua 
Signal LEDs on the spreaders.  Very low profile and they work phenomenally - 
almost too bright! 
https://store.marinebeam.com/led-masthead-foredeck-combination-light/ 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CdFzOH89I3fwlZeumTcWlLxQGST9Mn_S/view?usp=drivesdk
 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gIzwa9aDe-08QwoXbRkiSKvJpeaHpOkU/view?usp=drivesdk
 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZQiyoFpaXQ5qMJ82CfCZY1GUoUKmx-MM/view?usp=drivesdk
 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C9XMVAymHLr3240v5wFePlXiVGKJG6VS/view?usp=drivesdk
  All the best,  Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+Solomons, MD  
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 08:55 Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
wrote:Hello all, I need to replace my masthead (steaming)/Deck Light.  The 
existing Aqua Signal light doesn't impress me as the deck light lens fell off 
at some point and the deck light didn't work.  So, Staying away from Aqua 
Signal. I've been looking and these light range in price from around $100 all 
the way up to well over $500.  I've seem Marine Beam, with good reviews, at 
about $125 and the Signal Mate, with good reviews at about $450. I don't want 
to spend unnecessarily but, I'm leaning toward the Signal Mate.   It was good 
reputation, been around a while and is supposed to be well made.  Of course the 
reviews on the Marine beam say they are well made.  There are plenty of bad 
reviews about the aqua signal.   I was hoping some of you could offer some 
experiences and advise. Thanks,DannyThanks to all of the subscribers that 
contributed to the list to help with the costs involved.  If you want to show 
your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution --   
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - StuThanks to all of the subscribers 
that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved.  If you want to 
show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution --   
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - StuThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List C&C 40

Would buying a C&C 40 with an original engine be a good idea in 2021? 

We are running some numbers here and it is basically a choice between
upgrading and replacing. Coquina is 48 years old now and it is time to do
some $$$ upgrades or buy another boat with much of the work done. We found a
used C&C 40 that looks gorgeous below, the interior beats most used boats of
that era. She seems in good shape, but the engine is original with 3,000+
hours. An Atomic 4 per the manual should be rebuilt at 3,000 hours if FWC, a
raw water cooled version would be very lucky to get that far in salt water.
The Yanmar is FWC. I frequently hear that diesels can last 10,000 hours, but
then again a significant number of boats from that era are for sale with new
engines.

Also re the rod rigging - the mast is out for the winter. With the rigging
easily accessed, what would the cost be of a rigging inspection to assure
that the rod is still good.

Thanks!

 

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

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costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement [now mast rebuild]

2021-03-18 Thread Ron Casciato via CnC-List

Josh, Great Jobmy next question is what was the process for measuring and 
procuring the replacement rod materials?  Did the Yard do it, or a rigger in 
teharea, or other?  

 

Thanks,

 

Ron C.

Impromptu

38MKIIC  ‘77

 

From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 10:46 AM
Cc: Stus-List ; Josh Muckley 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement [now 
mast rebuild]

 

The yard used awlgrip 2000, pearl gray if I recall correctly.  Stripped all 
hardware and wiring, welded shut vestigial holes, ground them flat and then 
primed and painted.  Re-wired, refitted, replaced all rod rigging.

 

Here is the link to the whole project.

  
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1eSqX7wZP1r77hD84wDmGAQSI0Tqbn9xm

 

I pretty sure the next question is going to be "how much?"

 

~1k for each rod and hardware.  I have 4 shrouds on each side plus head and 
back.  10 total 

 

~3k for the paint job alone

 

All said and done it came to roughly 20k

 

Josh Muckley 

S/V Sea Hawk 

1989 C&C 37+

Solomons, MD

 

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 10:19 David Swensen mailto:ka123dswense...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Josh, Lets talk about your mast and spreaders. What did you use to paint them? 
They look great.

 

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 9:54 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I replaced my Aqua Signal with the marine beam.  Perfect replacement fit.  No 
problem.  Highly recommend.  I also did Aqua Signal LEDs on the spreaders.  
Very low profile and they work phenomenally - almost too bright!

 

https://store.marinebeam.com/led-masthead-foredeck-combination-light/

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CdFzOH89I3fwlZeumTcWlLxQGST9Mn_S/view?usp=drivesdk

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gIzwa9aDe-08QwoXbRkiSKvJpeaHpOkU/view?usp=drivesdk

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZQiyoFpaXQ5qMJ82CfCZY1GUoUKmx-MM/view?usp=drivesdk

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C9XMVAymHLr3240v5wFePlXiVGKJG6VS/view?usp=drivesdk

 

 

All the best, 

 

Josh Muckley 

S/V Sea Hawk 

1989 C&C 37+

Solomons, MD 

 

 

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 08:55 Danny Haughey via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hello all,

 

I need to replace my masthead (steaming)/Deck Light.  The existing Aqua Signal 
light doesn't impress me as the deck light lens fell off at some point and the 
deck light didn't work.  So, Staying away from Aqua Signal.

 

I've been looking and these light range in price from around $100 all the way 
up to well over $500.  I've seem Marine Beam, with good reviews, at about $125 
and the Signal Mate, with good reviews at about $450.

 

I don't want to spend unnecessarily but, I'm leaning toward the Signal Mate.   
It was good reputation, been around a while and is supposed to be well made.  
Of course the reviews on the Marine beam say they are well made.  There are 
plenty of bad reviews about the aqua signal.  

 

I was hoping some of you could offer some experiences and advise.

 

Thanks,

Danny

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Stus-List Re: C&C 40

Joe,

Perhaps you should think about a newer model C&C 40-footer with a 2015 engine 
(490 hours)?

https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1990-c-c-37-40-plus-7686696/ 
 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Mar 18, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Would buying a C&C 40 with an original engine be a good idea in 2021? 
We are running some numbers here and it is basically a choice between upgrading 
and replacing. Coquina is 48 years old now and it is time to do some $$$ 
upgrades or buy another boat with much of the work done. We found a used C&C 40 
that looks gorgeous below, the interior beats most used boats of that era. She 
seems in good shape, but the engine is original with 3,000+ hours. An Atomic 4 
per the manual should be rebuilt at 3,000 hours if FWC, a raw water cooled 
version would be very lucky to get that far in salt water. The Yanmar is FWC. I 
frequently hear that diesels can last 10,000 hours, but then again a 
significant number of boats from that era are for sale with new engines.
Also re the rod rigging – the mast is out for the winter. With the rigging 
easily accessed, what would the cost be of a rigging inspection to assure that 
the rod is still good.
Thanks!
 
 
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina C&C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA
 
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Stus-List Re: C&C 40

2021-03-18 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List

Joe,

IMHO I would not let the engine hours stop me!  If the engine was
maintained and the decks are dry you will never regret the decision!

Yanmars are notorious for needing new exhaust elbows, but you can get
stainless ones from HDI Marine for a reasonable price.

Joel


Virus-free.
www.avg.com

<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 11:00 AM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Would buying a C&C 40 with an original engine be a good idea in 2021?
>
> We are running some numbers here and it is basically a choice between
> upgrading and replacing. Coquina is 48 years old now and it is time to do
> some $$$ upgrades or buy another boat with much of the work done. We found
> a used C&C 40 that looks gorgeous below, the interior beats most used boats
> of that era. She seems in good shape, but the engine is original with
> 3,000+ hours. An Atomic 4 per the manual should be rebuilt at 3,000 hours
> if FWC, a raw water cooled version would be very lucky to get that far in
> salt water. The Yanmar is FWC. I frequently hear that diesels can last
> 10,000 hours, but then again a significant number of boats from that era
> are for sale with new engines.
>
> Also re the rod rigging – the mast is out for the winter. With the rigging
> easily accessed, what would the cost be of a rigging inspection to assure
> that the rod is still good.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina C&C 35 MK I
>
> Kent Island MD USA
>
>
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> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu



-- 
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Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement

Agreed, I have bought two of those Marine Beam Deck/Steaming light, I like them 
a lot, (obviously)

For my spreader bottoms, I just glued a couple of these pucks on,

https://store.marinebeam.com/15-led-3-25-waterproof-surface-mount-puck-light-cl-80-15/

onto the bottom, very unobtrusive and bright.

 

 

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

 

From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 9:54 AM
To: Stus-List
Cc: Josh Muckley
Subject: Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement

 

I replaced my Aqua Signal with the marine beam.  Perfect replacement fit.  No 
problem.  Highly recommend.  I also did Aqua Signal LEDs on the spreaders.  
Very low profile and they work phenomenally - almost too bright!

 

https://store.marinebeam.com/led-masthead-foredeck-combination-light/

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CdFzOH89I3fwlZeumTcWlLxQGST9Mn_S/view?usp=drivesdk

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gIzwa9aDe-08QwoXbRkiSKvJpeaHpOkU/view?usp=drivesdk

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZQiyoFpaXQ5qMJ82CfCZY1GUoUKmx-MM/view?usp=drivesdk

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C9XMVAymHLr3240v5wFePlXiVGKJG6VS/view?usp=drivesdk

 

 

All the best, 

 

Josh Muckley 

S/V Sea Hawk 

1989 C&C 37+

Solomons, MD 

 

 

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 08:55 Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
wrote:

Hello all,

 

I need to replace my masthead (steaming)/Deck Light.  The existing Aqua Signal 
light doesn't impress me as the deck light lens fell off at some point and the 
deck light didn't work.  So, Staying away from Aqua Signal.

 

I've been looking and these light range in price from around $100 all the way 
up to well over $500.  I've seem Marine Beam, with good reviews, at about $125 
and the Signal Mate, with good reviews at about $450.

 

I don't want to spend unnecessarily but, I'm leaning toward the Signal Mate.   
It was good reputation, been around a while and is supposed to be well made.  
Of course the reviews on the Marine beam say they are well made.  There are 
plenty of bad reviews about the aqua signal.  

 

I was hoping some of you could offer some experiences and advise.

 

Thanks,

Danny

Thanks to all of the 

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Stus-List Re: C&C 40

2021-03-18 Thread Adam Hayden via CnC-List

Ed


You are selling the Enterprise?   What do you have your eye on now?

Adam

Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada’s largest network.

From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 12:08:15 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 40

Joe,

Perhaps you should think about a newer model C&C 40-footer with a 2015 engine 
(490 hours)?

https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1990-c-c-37-40-plus-7686696/

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL










On Mar 18, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Would buying a C&C 40 with an original engine be a good idea in 2021?
We are running some numbers here and it is basically a choice between upgrading 
and replacing. Coquina is 48 years old now and it is time to do some $$$ 
upgrades or buy another boat with much of the work done. We found a used C&C 40 
that looks gorgeous below, the interior beats most used boats of that era. She 
seems in good shape, but the engine is original with 3,000+ hours. An Atomic 4 
per the manual should be rebuilt at 3,000 hours if FWC, a raw water cooled 
version would be very lucky to get that far in salt water. The Yanmar is FWC. I 
frequently hear that diesels can last 10,000 hours, but then again a 
significant number of boats from that era are for sale with new engines.
Also re the rod rigging – the mast is out for the winter. With the rigging 
easily accessed, what would the cost be of a rigging inspection to assure that 
the rod is still good.
Thanks!



Joe Della Barba
Coquina C&C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA

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Stus-List Re: C&C 40

2021-03-18 Thread Ron Casciato via CnC-List

Good Morning Joe:  a suggestion while you are compiling a list of costs and
differences.  Please include the estimate for replacement of the engine with
a Yanmar Saildrive.  I did that on my 38MKII almost 15 years ago on the
recommendation of Rob Ball, and it has worked flawlessly and needs much less
in service.  I used the Yanmar 3YM30 with the SD20 Saildrive, and it comes
with the mounting sled that you just glass into the bottom of the boat.  The
sail drive works like an outboard, and other than regularly changing out the
engine oil, that lower unit gets changed every few years.  I installed a
Flex-O-Fold 2 blade prop and this boat not only goes faster than the old
Volvo with the 2 blade  Martec  but it backs down almost dead straight.  The
bonus is that the Yanmar weighs almost 100lbs less than the Volvo did. 

 

My installation was just short of 10K, and there's no more shaft, shaft
seal, etc.   

Just a thought before you commit to either one.

 

Best,

 

Ron C.

Impromptu C&C 38MKIIC

Mass.

 

 

From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 10:59 AM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com
Subject: Stus-List C&C 40

 

Would buying a C&C 40 with an original engine be a good idea in 2021? 

We are running some numbers here and it is basically a choice between
upgrading and replacing. Coquina is 48 years old now and it is time to do
some $$$ upgrades or buy another boat with much of the work done. We found a
used C&C 40 that looks gorgeous below, the interior beats most used boats of
that era. She seems in good shape, but the engine is original with 3,000+
hours. An Atomic 4 per the manual should be rebuilt at 3,000 hours if FWC, a
raw water cooled version would be very lucky to get that far in salt water.
The Yanmar is FWC. I frequently hear that diesels can last 10,000 hours, but
then again a significant number of boats from that era are for sale with new
engines.

Also re the rod rigging - the mast is out for the winter. With the rigging
easily accessed, what would the cost be of a rigging inspection to assure
that the rod is still good.

Thanks!

 

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

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Stus-List Re: A4 VS Beta Marine 25 HP

2021-03-18 Thread schiller via CnC-List


Joe,

We replace the Atomic 4 with a Universal M-25XPB on Corsair.  Fit was 
great function was even greater.  The only issue we had was that the 
alternator was on the starboard side of the universal (viewed from 
engine front) and we had to modify the steps to accommodate.  Torresen 
Marine did the work and did a great job.


Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan

On 3/18/2021 10:50 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote:


I just got this blueprint. This is great if you are thinking of 
swapping out an Atomic 4 for a diesel. It shows both engines in side 
view overlaid.


http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/tech/BetaA4.jpg

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA


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Stus-List Re: C&C 40

Nice boat – somewhat different price point than the original 40, but very 
tempting.

Weren’t you thinking of going to the dark side?

My wife and I looked around at trawler ads and found the following:
Right now really old trawlers are selling for close to twice what they sold for 
a year ago.

Most of them have teak decks and iron fuel tanks. Replacing the decks is huge 
$$$ and the tanks usually can’t be removed in one piece, you have to cut them 
apart. If they haven’t been replaced they will need to be at some point.

The use a lot more fuel than you might guess. They are economical compared to 
planning powerboats that get gallons per mile, but using Grand Banks for an 
example a single engine version gets maybe 3-4 MPG and a twin maybe 2 or 3. 

Docking them is harder than you might think. 95% of the time I need no help at 
all docking and undocking my boat, but either inside or on a flying bridge you 
have no access at all to any lines, so single-handed docking will be pain.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

 

From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 11:08 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 40

 

Joe,

 

Perhaps you should think about a newer model C&C 40-footer with a 2015 engine 
(490 hours)?

 

https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1990-c-c-37-40-plus-7686696/ 


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Captain of the Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

 








 






 

On Mar 18, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

Would buying a C&C 40 with an original engine be a good idea in 2021? 

We are running some numbers here and it is basically a choice between upgrading 
and replacing. Coquina is 48 years old now and it is time to do some $$$ 
upgrades or buy another boat with much of the work done. We found a used C&C 40 
that looks gorgeous below, the interior beats most used boats of that era. She 
seems in good shape, but the engine is original with 3,000+ hours. An Atomic 4 
per the manual should be rebuilt at 3,000 hours if FWC, a raw water cooled 
version would be very lucky to get that far in salt water. The Yanmar is FWC. I 
frequently hear that diesels can last 10,000 hours, but then again a 
significant number of boats from that era are for sale with new engines.

Also re the rod rigging – the mast is out for the winter. With the rigging 
easily accessed, what would the cost be of a rigging inspection to assure that 
the rod is still good.

Thanks!

 

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

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Stus-List Re: C&C 40

Adam,

I’m still working full time and we want to explore more of Florida and beyond 
without having to take weeks off to do it. That, along with a few health 
issues, means it’s time for, if you pardon the term, The Next Generation of the 
Enterprise. 

There will be an Enterprise-C for certain, but it’s looking more and more 
doubtful she’ll be a sailboat.  I know it’s the wrong franchise, but we may be 
going over to The Dark Side. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Mar 18, 2021, at 11:20 AM, Adam Hayden via CnC-List  
wrote:

Ed


You are selling the Enterprise?   What do you have your eye on now?

Adam

Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada’s largest network.
From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 12:08:15 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 40
 
Joe,

Perhaps you should think about a newer model C&C 40-footer with a 2015 engine 
(490 hours)?

https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1990-c-c-37-40-plus-7686696/ 
 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL















On Mar 18, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Would buying a C&C 40 with an original engine be a good idea in 2021? 
We are running some numbers here and it is basically a choice between upgrading 
and replacing. Coquina is 48 years old now and it is time to do some $$$ 
upgrades or buy another boat with much of the work done. We found a used C&C 40 
that looks gorgeous below, the interior beats most used boats of that era. She 
seems in good shape, but the engine is original with 3,000+ hours. An Atomic 4 
per the manual should be rebuilt at 3,000 hours if FWC, a raw water cooled 
version would be very lucky to get that far in salt water. The Yanmar is FWC. I 
frequently hear that diesels can last 10,000 hours, but then again a 
significant number of boats from that era are for sale with new engines.
Also re the rod rigging – the mast is out for the winter. With the rigging 
easily accessed, what would the cost be of a rigging inspection to assure that 
the rod is still good.
Thanks!
 
 
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina C&C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA
 
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costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
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  Thanks - Stu

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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

2021-03-18 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List

I get the time issue. I am curious what you are looking at. What I found with 
the small fast powerboats I had was I could get a long way very quickly and 
then be utterly miserable getting home when the wind came up. You might make 
100 miles between breakfast and lunch and then take 3 days to get home.
I had to deliver a Krogen 40 once and that was kind of cool, it would chug 
along at 7-8 knots in pretty much any weather you would want to be out in. We 
got kinda interested in having a Dyer 29 as a high speed touring boat, they’ll 
run 15-20 knots economically in some pretty nasty weather and have enough room 
to sleep 2 and have a useable head that isn’t under a bunk, but the recent 
price run-up has put that idea out of reach for now.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina


From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 11:37 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Adam Hayden ; Edd Schillay 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C&C 40

Adam,

I’m still working full time and we want to explore more of Florida and beyond 
without having to take weeks off to do it. That, along with a few health 
issues, means it’s time for, if you pardon the term, The Next Generation of the 
Enterprise.

There will be an Enterprise-C for certain, but it’s looking more and more 
doubtful she’ll be a sailboat.  I know it’s the wrong franchise, but we may be 
going over to The Dark Side.

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL












On Mar 18, 2021, at 11:20 AM, Adam Hayden via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Ed


You are selling the Enterprise?   What do you have your eye on now?

Adam

Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada’s largest network.

From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 12:08:15 PM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Edd Schillay mailto:e...@schillay.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 40

Joe,

Perhaps you should think about a newer model C&C 40-footer with a 2015 engine 
(490 hours)?

https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1990-c-c-37-40-plus-7686696/

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
















On Mar 18, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Would buying a C&C 40 with an original engine be a good idea in 2021?
We are running some numbers here and it is basically a choice between upgrading 
and replacing. Coquina is 48 years old now and it is time to do some $$$ 
upgrades or buy another boat with much of the work done. We found a used C&C 40 
that looks gorgeous below, the interior beats most used boats of that era. She 
seems in good shape, but the engine is original with 3,000+ hours. An Atomic 4 
per the manual should be rebuilt at 3,000 hours if FWC, a raw water cooled 
version would be very lucky to get that far in salt water. The Yanmar is FWC. I 
frequently hear that diesels can last 10,000 hours, but then again a 
significant number of boats from that era are for sale with new engines.
Also re the rod rigging – the mast is out for the winter. With the rigging 
easily accessed, what would the cost be of a rigging inspection to assure that 
the rod is still good.
Thanks!



Joe Della Barba
Coquina C&C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA

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costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
  Thanks - Stu

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  Thanks - Stu

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Stus-List Re: C&C 40

2021-03-18 Thread Don Marlin via CnC-List

I have a 1983 C&C 40 AC.
It has the original engine, Westerbeke W33 still going well.
I pulled it 2 yrs ago and redid seals, gaskets, injectors, damper plate etc.
This winter I had the tranny rebuilt.

If the engine is running fine and shows no issues then a light refresh like
I did might be the way to go. It is a fraction of the cost of a new one.
I expect to get a few more years out of mine and then will explore a
saildrive :-)
My engine is around 3500-4000hours.
Of course this is a diesel so maybe different than an Atomic 4.

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 11:37 AM Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Adam,
>
> I’m still working full time and we want to explore more of Florida and
> beyond without having to take weeks off to do it. That, along with a few
> health issues, means it’s time for, if you pardon the term, The Next
> Generation of the Enterprise.
>
> There will be an Enterprise-C for certain, but it’s looking more and more
> doubtful she’ll be a sailboat.  I know it’s the wrong franchise, but we may
> be going over to The Dark Side.
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 18, 2021, at 11:20 AM, Adam Hayden via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Ed
>
>
> You are selling the Enterprise?   What do you have your eye on now?
>
> Adam
>
> Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada’s largest network.
> --
> *From:* Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2021 12:08:15 PM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* Edd Schillay 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: C&C 40
>
> Joe,
>
> Perhaps you should think about a newer model C&C 40-footer with a 2015
> engine (490 hours)?
>
> https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1990-c-c-37-40-plus-7686696/
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 18, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Would buying a C&C 40 with an original engine be a good idea in 2021?
> We are running some numbers here and it is basically a choice between
> upgrading and replacing. Coquina is 48 years old now and it is time to do
> some $$$ upgrades or buy another boat with much of the work done. We found
> a used C&C 40 that looks gorgeous below, the interior beats most used boats
> of that era. She seems in good shape, but the engine is original with
> 3,000+ hours. An Atomic 4 per the manual should be rebuilt at 3,000 hours
> if FWC, a raw water cooled version would be very lucky to get that far in
> salt water. The Yanmar is FWC. I frequently hear that diesels can last
> 10,000 hours, but then again a significant number of boats from that era
> are for sale with new engines.
> Also re the rod rigging – the mast is out for the winter. With the rigging
> easily accessed, what would the cost be of a rigging inspection to assure
> that the rod is still good.
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina C&C 35 MK I
> Kent Island MD USA
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
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Stus-List Re: C&C 40

2021-03-18 Thread Rod Stright via CnC-List

I Have a C&C 99 with the standard Volvo Penta saildrive.  Curious about the
Flex-O-Fold.  I had a max prop on my last boat and loved it.  Was the
Flex-O-Fold a direct fit for the sail drive and what was the approx. cost?

 

Thanks Rod 

 

From: Ron Casciato via CnC-List  
Sent: March-18-21 12:32 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Ron Casciato 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 40

 

Good Morning Joe:  a suggestion while you are compiling a list of costs and
differences.  Please include the estimate for replacement of the engine with
a Yanmar Saildrive.  I did that on my 38MKII almost 15 years ago on the
recommendation of Rob Ball, and it has worked flawlessly and needs much less
in service.  I used the Yanmar 3YM30 with the SD20 Saildrive, and it comes
with the mounting sled that you just glass into the bottom of the boat.  The
sail drive works like an outboard, and other than regularly changing out the
engine oil, that lower unit gets changed every few years.  I installed a
Flex-O-Fold 2 blade prop and this boat not only goes faster than the old
Volvo with the 2 blade  Martec  but it backs down almost dead straight.  The
bonus is that the Yanmar weighs almost 100lbs less than the Volvo did. 

 

My installation was just short of 10K, and there's no more shaft, shaft
seal, etc.   

Just a thought before you commit to either one.

 

Best,

 

Ron C.

Impromptu C&C 38MKIIC

Mass.

 

 

From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 10:59 AM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com  
Subject: Stus-List C&C 40

 

Would buying a C&C 40 with an original engine be a good idea in 2021? 

We are running some numbers here and it is basically a choice between
upgrading and replacing. Coquina is 48 years old now and it is time to do
some $$$ upgrades or buy another boat with much of the work done. We found a
used C&C 40 that looks gorgeous below, the interior beats most used boats of
that era. She seems in good shape, but the engine is original with 3,000+
hours. An Atomic 4 per the manual should be rebuilt at 3,000 hours if FWC, a
raw water cooled version would be very lucky to get that far in salt water.
The Yanmar is FWC. I frequently hear that diesels can last 10,000 hours, but
then again a significant number of boats from that era are for sale with new
engines.

Also re the rod rigging - the mast is out for the winter. With the rigging
easily accessed, what would the cost be of a rigging inspection to assure
that the rod is still good.

Thanks!

 

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

Joe,

We are keeping an open mind, and much will depend one how soon and how much the 
Enterprise-B sells for. 

Big winds and big seas aren’t usually an issue here in Southwest Florida and 
we’d like to get to places like Tampa, Captiva Island, Sanibel, Naples, the 
Keys and even the east coast or Bahamas without spending days to get there. As 
Warp 7 (7 knots), Captiva is about 7 hours away. And, it would be great to hop 
down to Boca Grande or Port Charlotte for lunch without leaving before sunrise 
:-)

I think we are leaning towards a sedan bridge boat with an open cockpit. Ones 
that we have liked so far are the Meridian 341, the Carver 36 Mariner, the Sea 
Ray 400 SB, the Regal 4080 Commodore, Carver 41 CMY, and so on. 

I’m well aware of the fuel and maintenance costs along with the issues of 
docking (I plan to add thrusters, if the boat doesn’t have them), especially 
since my slip is pretty tight and requires some maneuvering to pull in — I 
couldn’t single-hand dock with this boat now anyway.  

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Mar 18, 2021, at 11:44 AM, Della Barba, Joe  wrote:

I get the time issue. I am curious what you are looking at. What I found with 
the small fast powerboats I had was I could get a long way very quickly and 
then be utterly miserable getting home when the wind came up. You might make 
100 miles between breakfast and lunch and then take 3 days to get home.
I had to deliver a Krogen 40 once and that was kind of cool, it would chug 
along at 7-8 knots in pretty much any weather you would want to be out in. We 
got kinda interested in having a Dyer 29 as a high speed touring boat, they’ll 
run 15-20 knots economically in some pretty nasty weather and have enough room 
to sleep 2 and have a useable head that isn’t under a bunk, but the recent 
price run-up has put that idea out of reach for now.
 
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
 
 
From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 11:37 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Adam Hayden ; Edd Schillay 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: C&C 40
 
Adam,
 
I’m still working full time and we want to explore more of Florida and beyond 
without having to take weeks off to do it. That, along with a few health 
issues, means it’s time for, if you pardon the term, The Next Generation of the 
Enterprise. 
 
There will be an Enterprise-C for certain, but it’s looking more and more 
doubtful she’ll be a sailboat.  I know it’s the wrong franchise, but we may be 
going over to The Dark Side. 

All the best,
 
Edd
 
 
Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
 





   
 



 
On Mar 18, 2021, at 11:20 AM, Adam Hayden via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
 
Ed
 
 
You are selling the Enterprise?   What do you have your eye on now?
 
Adam
 
Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada’s largest network.
From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 12:08:15 PM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Edd Schillay mailto:e...@schillay.com>>
Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 40
 
Joe,
 
Perhaps you should think about a newer model C&C 40-footer with a 2015 engine 
(490 hours)?
 
https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1990-c-c-37-40-plus-7686696/ 
 

All the best,
 
Edd
 
 
Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
 










 



 
On Mar 18, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
 
Would buying a C&C 40 with an original engine be a good idea in 2021? 
We are running some numbers here and it is basically a choice between upgrading 
and replacing. Coquina is 48 years old now and it is time to do some $$$ 
upgrades or buy another boat with much of the work done. We found a used C&C 40 
that looks gorgeous below, the interior beats most used boats of that era. She 
seems in good shape, but the engine is original with 3,000+ hours. An Atomic 4 
per the manual should be rebuilt at 3,000 hours if FWC, a raw water cooled 
version would be very lucky to get that far in salt water. The Yanmar is FWC. I 
frequently hear that diesels can last 10,000 hours, but then again a 
significant number of boats from that era are for sale with new engines.
Also re the rod rigging – the mast is out for the winter. With the rigging 
easily accessed, what would the cost be of a rigging inspection to assure that 
the rod is still good.
Thanks!
 
 
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina C&C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA
 
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Stus-List Re: C&C 40

2021-03-18 Thread Ron Casciato via CnC-List

HI Rod¨ There is a Flex-O-Fold specified for whatever Yanmar Sail drive
there is, I assume that they also cover Volvo.  I dealt with their rep in
Marblehead Mass.  Their current ad says that they fit all saildrive models.
The price seems to fall between $1295 - $1695 depending on diameter .13
to 18..

 

Ron C.

 

From: Rod Stright via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 12:02 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Rod Stright 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 40

 

I Have a C&C 99 with the standard Volvo Penta saildrive.  Curious about the
Flex-O-Fold.  I had a max prop on my last boat and loved it.  Was the
Flex-O-Fold a direct fit for the sail drive and what was the approx. cost?

 

Thanks Rod 

 

From: Ron Casciato via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: March-18-21 12:32 PM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Ron Casciato mailto:rjcasci...@comcast.net> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 40

 

Good Morning Joe:  a suggestion while you are compiling a list of costs and
differences.  Please include the estimate for replacement of the engine with
a Yanmar Saildrive.  I did that on my 38MKII almost 15 years ago on the
recommendation of Rob Ball, and it has worked flawlessly and needs much less
in service.  I used the Yanmar 3YM30 with the SD20 Saildrive, and it comes
with the mounting sled that you just glass into the bottom of the boat.  The
sail drive works like an outboard, and other than regularly changing out the
engine oil, that lower unit gets changed every few years.  I installed a
Flex-O-Fold 2 blade prop and this boat not only goes faster than the old
Volvo with the 2 blade  Martec  but it backs down almost dead straight.  The
bonus is that the Yanmar weighs almost 100lbs less than the Volvo did. 

 

My installation was just short of 10K, and theres no more shaft, shaft
seal, etc.   

Just a thought before you commit to either one.

 

Best,

 

Ron C.

Impromptu C&C 38MKIIC

Mass.

 

 

From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 10:59 AM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com  
Subject: Stus-List C&C 40

 

Would buying a C&C 40 with an original engine be a good idea in 2021? 

We are running some numbers here and it is basically a choice between
upgrading and replacing. Coquina is 48 years old now and it is time to do
some $$$ upgrades or buy another boat with much of the work done. We found a
used C&C 40 that looks gorgeous below, the interior beats most used boats of
that era. She seems in good shape, but the engine is original with 3,000+
hours. An Atomic 4 per the manual should be rebuilt at 3,000 hours if FWC, a
raw water cooled version would be very lucky to get that far in salt water.
The Yanmar is FWC. I frequently hear that diesels can last 10,000 hours, but
then again a significant number of boats from that era are for sale with new
engines.

Also re the rod rigging  the mast is out for the winter. With the rigging
easily accessed, what would the cost be of a rigging inspection to assure
that the rod is still good.

Thanks!

 

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

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Stus-List Re: C&C 40

2021-03-18 Thread Rod Stright via CnC-List

Thanks Ron

From: Ron Casciato via CnC-List  
Sent: March-18-21 1:15 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Ron Casciato 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 40

HI Rod¨ There is a Flex-O-Fold specified for whatever Yanmar Sail drive
there is, I assume that they also cover Volvo.  I dealt with their rep in
Marblehead Mass.  Their current ad says that they fit all saildrive models.
The price seems to fall between $1295 - $1695 depending on diameter .13
to 18..

Ron C.

From: Rod Stright via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 12:02 PM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Rod Stright mailto:strig...@eastlink.ca> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 40

I Have a C&C 99 with the standard Volvo Penta saildrive.  Curious about the
Flex-O-Fold.  I had a max prop on my last boat and loved it.  Was the
Flex-O-Fold a direct fit for the sail drive and what was the approx. cost?

Thanks Rod 

From: Ron Casciato via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: March-18-21 12:32 PM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Ron Casciato mailto:rjcasci...@comcast.net> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 40

Good Morning Joe:  a suggestion while you are compiling a list of costs and
differences.  Please include the estimate for replacement of the engine with
a Yanmar Saildrive.  I did that on my 38MKII almost 15 years ago on the
recommendation of Rob Ball, and it has worked flawlessly and needs much less
in service.  I used the Yanmar 3YM30 with the SD20 Saildrive, and it comes
with the mounting sled that you just glass into the bottom of the boat.  The
sail drive works like an outboard, and other than regularly changing out the
engine oil, that lower unit gets changed every few years.  I installed a
Flex-O-Fold 2 blade prop and this boat not only goes faster than the old
Volvo with the 2 blade  Martec  but it backs down almost dead straight.  The
bonus is that the Yanmar weighs almost 100lbs less than the Volvo did. 

My installation was just short of 10K, and theres no more shaft, shaft
seal, etc.   

Just a thought before you commit to either one.

Best,

Ron C.

Impromptu C&C 38MKIIC

Mass.

From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 10:59 AM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com  
Subject: Stus-List C&C 40

Would buying a C&C 40 with an original engine be a good idea in 2021? 

We are running some numbers here and it is basically a choice between
upgrading and replacing. Coquina is 48 years old now and it is time to do
some $$$ upgrades or buy another boat with much of the work done. We found a
used C&C 40 that looks gorgeous below, the interior beats most used boats of
that era. She seems in good shape, but the engine is original with 3,000+
hours. An Atomic 4 per the manual should be rebuilt at 3,000 hours if FWC, a
raw water cooled version would be very lucky to get that far in salt water.
The Yanmar is FWC. I frequently hear that diesels can last 10,000 hours, but
then again a significant number of boats from that era are for sale with new
engines.

Also re the rod rigging  the mast is out for the winter. With the rigging
easily accessed, what would the cost be of a rigging inspection to assure
that the rod is still good.

Thanks!

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

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Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement

2021-03-18 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List

A masthead light is usually a combination nav/anchor light. Steaming/deck
lights are usually mounted on the front of the mast. If that's what you
need, I have a Forespar combination light, in excellent condition, that I
can sell you.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR



On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 5:55 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I need to replace my masthead (steaming)/Deck Light.  The existing Aqua
> Signal light doesn't impress me as the deck light lens fell off at some
> point and the deck light didn't work.  So, Staying away from Aqua Signal.
>
> I've been looking and these light range in price from around $100 all the
> way up to well over $500.  I've seem Marine Beam, with good reviews, at
> about $125 and the Signal Mate, with good reviews at about $450.
>
> I don't want to spend unnecessarily but, I'm leaning toward the Signal
> Mate.   It was good reputation, been around a while and is supposed to be
> well made.  Of course the reviews on the Marine beam say they are well
> made.  There are plenty of bad reviews about the aqua signal.
>
> I was hoping some of you could offer some experiences and advise.
>
> Thanks,
> Danny
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Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement

2021-03-18 Thread Jim Reinardy via CnC-List

I installed the MarineBeam unit several years ago to replace an AquaSignal that 
was not reliable.  It has worked well and held up beautifully thus far.  I 
would recommend it!

Jim Reinardy
C&C 30-2 “Firewater”
Milwaukee, WI

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From: Matthew via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 8:16:37 AM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Matthew 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement


FWIW, I’ve had good results with Hella Marine nav lights as replacements.



Hella marine - Hella Marine



From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 8:55 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Danny Haughey 
Subject: Stus-List Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement



Hello all,



I need to replace my masthead (steaming)/Deck Light.  The existing Aqua Signal 
light doesn't impress me as the deck light lens fell off at some point and the 
deck light didn't work.  So, Staying away from Aqua Signal.



I've been looking and these light range in price from around $100 all the way 
up to well over $500.  I've seem Marine Beam, with good reviews, at about $125 
and the Signal Mate, with good reviews at about $450.



I don't want to spend unnecessarily but, I'm leaning toward the Signal Mate.   
It was good reputation, been around a while and is supposed to be well made.  
Of course the reviews on the Marine beam say they are well made.  There are 
plenty of bad reviews about the aqua signal.



I was hoping some of you could offer some experiences and advise.



Thanks,

Danny
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Stus-List Re: C&C 40

2021-03-18 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List

I wouldn’t worry too much about a diesel with 3000+ hours on it—it’s not like a 
gasoline-powered engine.  That said, I lost my original engine with about 5000 
hours on it.  I lost the oil somehow along th ICW—it wasn’t due to the engine 
simply wearing out.  If you are using the boat just on the Chesapeake, it will 
take you a long time to get a lot of hours on the engine.

The C&C 40 is a nice boat!

Bob

> On Mar 18, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Would buying a C&C 40 with an original engine be a good idea in 2021? 
> We are running some numbers here and it is basically a choice between 
> upgrading and replacing. Coquina is 48 years old now and it is time to do 
> some $$$ upgrades or buy another boat with much of the work done. We found a 
> used C&C 40 that looks gorgeous below, the interior beats most used boats of 
> that era. She seems in good shape, but the engine is original with 3,000+ 
> hours. An Atomic 4 per the manual should be rebuilt at 3,000 hours if FWC, a 
> raw water cooled version would be very lucky to get that far in salt water. 
> The Yanmar is FWC. I frequently hear that diesels can last 10,000 hours, but 
> then again a significant number of boats from that era are for sale with new 
> engines.
> Also re the rod rigging – the mast is out for the winter. With the rigging 
> easily accessed, what would the cost be of a rigging inspection to assure 
> that the rod is still good.
> Thanks!
>  
>  
>  
> Joe Della Barba
> Coquina C&C 35 MK I
> Kent Island MD USA
>  
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray 
>   Thanks - Stu

Robert Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C&C Landfall 38, Hull #230
(Spending hurricane season in Baltimore, winters in the Bahamas, and on the ICW 
in between)
411 Walnut Street #11447
Green Cove Springs, FL 32043
(443) 994-1802

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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

2021-03-18 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List


Edd

You come to the wrong church with that stink-pot talk...just sayin!

Tom B

At 09:03 AM 3/18/2021, you wrote:

Joe,

We are keeping an open mind, and much will 
depend one how soon and how much the Enterprise-B sells for.


Big winds and big seas arenât usually an issue 
here in Southwest Florida and weâd like to get 
to places like Tampa, Captiva Island, Sanibel, 
Naples, the Keys and even the east coast or 
Bahamas without spending days to get there. As 
Warp 7 (7 knots), Captiva is about 7 hours away. 
And, it would be great to hop down to Boca 
Grande or Port Charlotte for lunch without leaving before sunrise :-)


I think we are leaning towards a sedan bridge 
boat with an open cockpit. Ones that we have 
liked so far are the Meridian 341, the Carver 36 
Mariner, the Sea Ray 400 SB, the Regal 4080 
Commodore, Carver 41 CMY, and so on.


Iâm well aware of the fuel and maintenance 
costs along with the issues of docking (I plan 
to add thrusters, if the boat doesnât have 
them), especially since my slip is pretty tight 
and requires some maneuvering to pull in  I 
couldnât single-hand dock with this boat now anyway.


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL



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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

Tom,

I’m well aware of that. I worry that once I make the change, Stu may kick me 
off the list. 

And if that does happen, someone else will need to step up and give David Risch 
crap so that there’s no void. 

All the best,

Edd

Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

On Mar 18, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List  
wrote:

Edd

You come to the wrong church with that stink-pot talk...just sayin!

Tom B

At 09:03 AM 3/18/2021, you wrote:
> Joe,
> 
> We are keeping an open mind, and much will depend one how soon and how much 
> the Enterprise-B sells for. 
> 
> Big winds and big seas arenât usually an issue here in Southwest Florida 
> and weâd like to get to places like Tampa, Captiva Island, Sanibel, Naples, 
> the Keys and even the east coast or Bahamas without spending days to get 
> there. As Warp 7 (7 knots), Captiva is about 7 hours away. And, it would be 
> great to hop down to Boca Grande or Port Charlotte for lunch without leaving 
> before sunrise :-)
> 
> I think we are leaning towards a sedan bridge boat with an open cockpit. Ones 
> that we have liked so far are the Meridian 341, the Carver 36 Mariner, the 
> Sea Ray 400 SB, the Regal 4080 Commodore, Carver 41 CMY, and so on. 
> 
> Iâm well aware of the fuel and maintenance costs along with the issues of 
> docking (I plan to add thrusters, if the boat doesnât have them), 
> especially since my slip is pretty tight and requires some maneuvering to 
> pull in  I couldnât single-hand dock with this boat now anyway.  
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  
> Thanks - Stu

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SV Alera
C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

Edd:

 

If you promise to fly a C&C burgee on your stink-boat, I’ll bet 
Stu will let you stay.

 

Matt

 

From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 2:57 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

 

Tom,

 

I’m well aware of that. I worry that once I make the change, Stu may kick me 
off the list. 

 

And if that does happen, someone else will need to step up and give David Risch 
crap so that there’s no void. 


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Captain of the Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

 








 






 

On Mar 18, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

Edd

You come to the wrong church with that stink-pot talk...just sayin!

Tom B

At 09:03 AM 3/18/2021, you wrote:



Joe,

We are keeping an open mind, and much will depend one how soon and how much the 
Enterprise-B sells for. 

Big winds and big seas arenâ€™t usually an issue here in Southwest Florida and 
weâ€™d like to get to places like Tampa, Captiva Island, Sanibel, Naples, the 
Keys and even the east coast or Bahamas without spending days to get there. As 
Warp 7 (7 knots), Captiva is about 7 hours away. And, it would be great to hop 
down to Boca Grande or Port Charlotte for lunch without leaving before sunrise 
:-)

I think we are leaning towards a sedan bridge boat with an open cockpit. Ones 
that we have liked so far are the Meridian 341, the Carver 36 Mariner, the Sea 
Ray 400 SB, the Regal 4080 Commodore, Carver 41 CMY, and so on. 

Iâ€™m well aware of the fuel and maintenance costs along with the issues of 
docking (I plan to add thrusters, if the boat doesnâ€™t have them), especially 
since my slip is pretty tight and requires some maneuvering to pull in — I 
couldnâ€™t single-hand dock with this boat now anyway.  

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL



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SV Alera
C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

2021-03-18 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List

I get what you're going through. I'm 73 and my
wife Lynn is only a few years behind me and we
only cruise together; never with a crew except for day sails.

The idea of getting around to our favorite spots
in hours instead of days is quite
attractive. But the related costs and noise have
been serious issues. The 37+ is just the perfect
boat for us in so many ways it is hard to
consider moving to the dark side. Though it may
be inevitable as we slowly deteriorate into
useless blobs of rotting flesh...Gosh.. that got a little dark.

Anyway...best of luck and I hope you don;t get booted by Stu!

Tom B.

At 11:56 AM 3/18/2021, you wrote:

Tom,

Iâm well aware of that. I worry that once I
make the change, Stu may kick me off the list.

And if that does happen, someone else will need
to step up and give David Risch crap so that thereâs no void.

All the best,

Edd

Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

On Mar 18, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Tom Buscaglia via
CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Edd

You come to the wrong church with that stink-pot talk...just sayin!

Tom B

At 09:03 AM 3/18/2021, you wrote:

Joe,

We are keeping an open mind, and much will
depend one how soon and how much the Enterprise-B sells for.

Big winds and big seas arenÃ¢ÂÂt usually an
issue here in Southwest Florida and weÃ¢ÂÂd
like to get to places like Tampa, Captiva
Island, Sanibel, Naples, the Keys and even the
east coast or Bahamas without spending days to
get there. As Warp 7 (7 knots), Captiva is
about 7 hours away. And, it would be great to
hop down to Boca Grande or Port Charlotte for
lunch without leaving before sunrise :-)

I think we are leaning towards a sedan bridge
boat with an open cockpit. Ones that we have
liked so far are the Meridian 341, the Carver
36 Mariner, the Sea Ray 400 SB, the Regal 4080
Commodore, Carver 41 CMY, and so on.

IÃ¢ÂÂm well aware of the fuel and maintenance
costs along with the issues of docking (I plan
to add thrusters, if the boat doesnÃ¢ÂÂt have
them), especially since my slip is pretty tight
and requires some maneuvering to pull in Â I
couldnÃ¢ÂÂt single-hand dock with this boat now anyway.

All the best,

Edd

Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

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SV Alera
C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com

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C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com

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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

Nah…….Didn’t Stu have a trawler? We take all types here.

Speaking of power, none of the boats you mentioned will be going to the Bahamas 
except in fairly calm weather. You will have the issue of getting there fast 
and then being trapped. I once took a girl home from Walker’s Cay due to this. 
She came across about 120 miles of open ocean with her parents in a *Wellcraft 
18 footer*!

It was flat calm on Saturday and 30+ out of the northwest on Sunday with water 
coming across the runway. We were stuck too, but the next day it was a little 
calmer and I could take off. She needed to get back to school so we took her 
back to Florida. It was probably at least a week before that Wellcraft was 
leaving for home. That is bit of an extreme example, but the typical 30-40 foot 
powerboat wouldn’t have been leaving much sooner.

 

I used to be in the boat fixing and moving business and learned a lot 
delivering various powerboats various places. Always fun to have customer’s 
pride and joy motor yacht 3 stories tall with dinner-plate rudders and the wind 
howling.

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

 

From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 2:57 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

 

Tom,

 

I’m well aware of that. I worry that once I make the change, Stu may kick me 
off the list. 

 

And if that does happen, someone else will need to step up and give David Risch 
crap so that there’s no void. 


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Captain of the Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

 








 






 

On Mar 18, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

Edd

You come to the wrong church with that stink-pot talk...just sayin!

Tom B

At 09:03 AM 3/18/2021, you wrote:



Joe,

We are keeping an open mind, and much will depend one how soon and how much the 
Enterprise-B sells for. 

Big winds and big seas arenâ€™t usually an issue here in Southwest Florida and 
weâ€™d like to get to places like Tampa, Captiva Island, Sanibel, Naples, the 
Keys and even the east coast or Bahamas without spending days to get there. As 
Warp 7 (7 knots), Captiva is about 7 hours away. And, it would be great to hop 
down to Boca Grande or Port Charlotte for lunch without leaving before sunrise 
:-)

I think we are leaning towards a sedan bridge boat with an open cockpit. Ones 
that we have liked so far are the Meridian 341, the Carver 36 Mariner, the Sea 
Ray 400 SB, the Regal 4080 Commodore, Carver 41 CMY, and so on. 

Iâ€™m well aware of the fuel and maintenance costs along with the issues of 
docking (I plan to add thrusters, if the boat doesnâ€™t have them), especially 
since my slip is pretty tight and requires some maneuvering to pull in — I 
couldnâ€™t single-hand dock with this boat now anyway.  

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL



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SV Alera
C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com   



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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

2021-03-18 Thread Doug Robinson via CnC-List


Nah...C&C built trawlers:

There are a few on the market and if anyone would like to spice up this 
forum I would love to take a donation to keep up the variety. I was 
aboard one in the yard at NOTL plant and it was lovely, an adaptation of 
a commercial design they had done for the Government.  At 37ft they are 
currently $50k+ which puts them outa consideration for a 86yr 
skipper..sob


fdr

On 3/18/21 2:54 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List wrote:

Edd

You come to the wrong church with that stink-pot talk...just sayin!

Tom B

At 09:03 AM 3/18/2021, you wrote:

Joe,

We are keeping an open mind, and much will depend one how soon and 
how much the Enterprise-B sells for.


Big winds and big seas arenâ€™t usually an issue here in Southwest 
Florida and weâ€™d like to get to places like Tampa, Captiva Island, 
Sanibel, Naples, the Keys and even the east coast or Bahamas without 
spending days to get there. As Warp 7 (7 knots), Captiva is about 7 
hours away. And, it would be great to hop down to Boca Grande or Port 
Charlotte for lunch without leaving before sunrise :-)


I think we are leaning towards a sedan bridge boat with an open 
cockpit. Ones that we have liked so far are the Meridian 341, the 
Carver 36 Mariner, the Sea Ray 400 SB, the Regal 4080 Commodore, 
Carver 41 CMY, and so on.


Iâ€™m well aware of the fuel and maintenance costs along with the 
issues of docking (I plan to add thrusters, if the boat doesnâ€™t 
have them), especially since my slip is pretty tight and requires 
some maneuvering to pull in — I couldnâ€™t single-hand dock with this 
boat now anyway.


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL



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list - use PayPal to send contribution -- 
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Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com 



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Stus-List 12 volt tv

2021-03-18 Thread WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List

Looking at installing 12 volt tv with built in dvd player and digital antenna 
to entertain spouse with movies in the evening.Anybody tackled this?  Issues I 
haven't thought about?  Bill Walker CnC 36Pentwater, Mi.Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

Are there any for sale anywhere? I haven’t seen one in years.

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

 

From: Doug Robinson via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 3:30 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Doug Robinson 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

 

Nah...C&C built trawlers:

There are a few on the market and if anyone would like to spice up this forum I 
would love to take a donation to keep up the variety. I was aboard one in the 
yard at NOTL plant and it was lovely, an adaptation of a commercial design they 
had done for the Government.  At 37ft they are currently $50k+ which puts them 
outa consideration for a 86yr skipper..sob

fdr

On 3/18/21 2:54 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List wrote:

Edd

You come to the wrong church with that stink-pot talk...just sayin!

Tom B

At 09:03 AM 3/18/2021, you wrote:



Joe,

We are keeping an open mind, and much will depend one how soon and how much the 
Enterprise-B sells for. 

Big winds and big seas arenâ€™t usually an issue here in Southwest Florida and 
weâ€™d like to get to places like Tampa, Captiva Island, Sanibel, Naples, the 
Keys and even the east coast or Bahamas without spending days to get there. As 
Warp 7 (7 knots), Captiva is about 7 hours away. And, it would be great to hop 
down to Boca Grande or Port Charlotte for lunch without leaving before sunrise 
:-)

I think we are leaning towards a sedan bridge boat with an open cockpit. Ones 
that we have liked so far are the Meridian 341, the Carver 36 Mariner, the Sea 
Ray 400 SB, the Regal 4080 Commodore, Carver 41 CMY, and so on. 

Iâ€™m well aware of the fuel and maintenance costs along with the issues of 
docking (I plan to add thrusters, if the boat doesnâ€™t have them), especially 
since my slip is pretty tight and requires some maneuvering to pull in — I 
couldnâ€™t single-hand dock with this boat now anyway.  

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL



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SV Alera
C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com   







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Stus-List Re: 12 volt tv

Bill,

IMO — There are not many TVs and DVD players that can really hold up to marine 
weather unless you are running dehumidifiers all the time. Also, those digital 
antennas will get you some stations, but not a whole lot. 

Suggest you look into an iPad or other big tablet — there are mounts galore on 
Amazon for mounting in the cabin, you can watch or stream movies off the 
internet, and you’ll have another device for navigation, internet, and, in some 
cases, a repeater/control for your marine electronics. 

We use my iPad air to watch movies and TV (My cable service at home comes with 
free streaming so I can watch anything on the iPad that I can at home, 
including off the home DVR) and I put magnetic mounts in the main saloon and in 
the aft cabin over the bed. 

On our last cruise, we had a beautiful night, sat out in the cockpit and 
watched (big surprise) 2009’s "Star Trek”. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL











On Mar 18, 2021, at 3:32 PM, WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Looking at installing 12 volt tv with built in dvd player and digital antenna 
to entertain spouse with movies in the evening.
Anybody tackled this?  Issues I haven't thought about?  
Bill Walker 
CnC 36
Pentwater, Mi.
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

2021-03-18 Thread Doug Robinson via CnC-List

One on Yacht World, and one in Bay City Michigan at $49,000.  I wonder 
how many were built?



On 3/18/21 3:38 PM, j...@dellabarba.com wrote:


Are there any for sale anywhere? I haven’t seen one in years.

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

*From:* Doug Robinson via CnC-List 
*Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2021 3:30 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Doug Robinson 
*Subject:* Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

Nah...C&C built trawlers:

There are a few on the market and if anyone would like to spice up 
this forum I would love to take a donation to keep up the variety. I 
was aboard one in the yard at NOTL plant and it was lovely, an 
adaptation of a commercial design they had done for the Government.  
At 37ft they are currently $50k+ which puts them outa consideration 
for a 86yr skipper..sob


fdr

On 3/18/21 2:54 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List wrote:

Edd

You come to the wrong church with that stink-pot talk...just sayin!

Tom B

At 09:03 AM 3/18/2021, you wrote:

Joe,

We are keeping an open mind, and much will depend one how soon
and how much the Enterprise-B sells for.

Big winds and big seas arenâ€™t usually an issue here in
Southwest Florida and weâ€™d like to get to places like Tampa,
Captiva Island, Sanibel, Naples, the Keys and even the east
coast or Bahamas without spending days to get there. As Warp 7
(7 knots), Captiva is about 7 hours away. And, it would be
great to hop down to Boca Grande or Port Charlotte for lunch
without leaving before sunrise :-)

I think we are leaning towards a sedan bridge boat with an
open cockpit. Ones that we have liked so far are the Meridian
341, the Carver 36 Mariner, the Sea Ray 400 SB, the Regal 4080
Commodore, Carver 41 CMY, and so on.

Iâ€™m well aware of the fuel and maintenance costs along with
the issues of docking (I plan to add thrusters, if the boat
doesnâ€™t have them), especially since my slip is pretty tight
and requires some maneuvering to pull in — I couldnâ€™t
single-hand dock with this boat now anyway.

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL



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SV Alera
C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com 



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Stus-List Re: 12 volt tv

This may not exactly be the direction you want to go but I find old laptops
with USB DTV dongles and DVD players to be great options.  Pick one with an
available cigarette lighter charge adapter so that you can charge with
12v.  I like the Dell latitude series.  I have an e6540 that I use as a
daily.  It is quite functional as a desktop computer for all needs while
underway.  It has Bluetooth so connecting to the Bluetooth stereo is great
for filling the boat with sound OR connecting to wireless headphones to
enjoy privately while someone is sleeping.  I suppose that if you need
anything larger than a 15 inch screen this won't help.

With the DTV adapters you should consider an alternative antenna and USB
extension cable.  I would mount the USB adapter in a fixed location and
then connect with the USB extension when desired.  This would allow a semi
permanent connection to the antenna and a semi permanent antenna mount.
The antenna connects with a common SMA or SMB connector and can be easily
changed to a common digital antenna F coax cable.

SMA to F coax
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SMB-MCX-MMCX-FME-Male-to-SMA-Female-Plug-Coaxial-Antenna-Connector-Adapter-/153773757987?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

USB DTV adapter
https://www.ebay.com/itm/USB2-0-FM-DAB-DVB-T-RTL2832U-R820T2-RTL-SDR-SDR-Dongle-Stick-Digital-TV-Tuner-/284162576356?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

Laptop
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Latitude-E6540-Laptop-2-8GHz-Core-i7-4810MQ-16GB-RAM-No-HDD-No-Battery-/294069605811?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

Cigarette adapter
https://www.ebay.com/itm/90W-Premium-Laptop-Car-Charger-for-Dell-DC-Adapter-Power-Supply-Cord-19-5V-4-62A-/153437407849?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 15:33 WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Looking at installing 12 volt tv with built in dvd player and digital
> antenna to entertain spouse with movies in the evening.
> Anybody tackled this?  Issues I haven't thought about?
> Bill Walker
> CnC 36
> Pentwater, Mi.
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

2021-03-18 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List

I guess that Stu will have to kick half of me off the list. We have the “hobby 
refit” C&C 37  and we now have a 34’ Lobster boat/Chesapeake Bay Deadrise 
powerboat.

I enjoy the idea getting to Annapolis in hours as opposed to several days. 
Heating and air-conditioning are nice amenities. Trips down the ICW to visit 
friends in North Carolina are now on the table given that I’m only pulling 3’ 
6” instead of 6’ 8”.

We like to get friends out on the water for short, afternoon wine cruises in 
the summertime and it is much easier to get takers when there is an aft cockpit 
with shade and chairs and the boat doesn’t heel.

Sure, there’s always the noise from the diesel but when cruising at 8-10 knots 
it’s not bad. Running at cruising speed of 15-16 knots is a different issue. 
Fuel consumption at 9-10 knots is around 4.4 GPH and at 16 knots it is 8.6 GPH.

I like just being out on the water, no matter what type of vessel.

Regards,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
1998 Mast & Mallet Thomas Point 34 - Katana
Reedville, VA

Sent from my iPad

> On 3/18/21 2:54 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List wrote:
> Edd
> 
> You come to the wrong church with that stink-pot talk...just sayin!
> 
> Tom B
> 
> At 09:03 AM 3/18/2021, you wrote:
> 
> Joe,
> 
> We are keeping an open mind, and much will depend one how soon and how much 
> the Enterprise-B sells for. 
> 
> Big winds and big seas arenâ€™t usually an issue here in Southwest Florida 
> and weâ€™d like to get to places like Tampa, Captiva Island, Sanibel, Naples, 
> the Keys and even the east coast or Bahamas without spending days to get 
> there. As Warp 7 (7 knots), Captiva is about 7 hours away. And, it would be 
> great to hop down to Boca Grande or Port Charlotte for lunch without leaving 
> before sunrise :-)
> 
> I think we are leaning towards a sedan bridge boat with an open cockpit. Ones 
> that we have liked so far are the Meridian 341, the Carver 36 Mariner, the 
> Sea Ray 400 SB, the Regal 4080 Commodore, Carver 41 CMY, and so on. 
> 
> Iâ€™m well aware of the fuel and maintenance costs along with the issues of 
> docking (I plan to add thrusters, if the boat doesnâ€™t have them), 
> especially since my slip is pretty tight and requires some maneuvering to 
> pull in — I couldnâ€™t single-hand dock with this boat now anyway.  
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
> 
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Stus-List Re: 12 volt tv

2021-03-18 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List

Bill

I mounted a32 inch 12 volt tv and Velcro’s a 12 volt dvd to the back.

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 3:42 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Bill,
>
> IMO — There are not many TVs and DVD players that can really hold up to
> marine weather unless you are running dehumidifiers all the time. Also,
> those digital antennas will get you some stations, but not a whole lot.
>
> Suggest you look into an iPad or other big tablet — there are mounts
> galore on Amazon for mounting in the cabin, you can watch or stream movies
> off the internet, and you’ll have another device for navigation, internet,
> and, in some cases, a repeater/control for your marine electronics.
>
> We use my iPad air to watch movies and TV (My cable service at home comes
> with free streaming so I can watch anything on the iPad that I can at home,
> including off the home DVR) and I put magnetic mounts in the main saloon
> and in the aft cabin over the bed.
>
> On our last cruise, we had a beautiful night, sat out in the cockpit and
> watched (big surprise) 2009’s "Star Trek”.
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 18, 2021, at 3:32 PM, WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Looking at installing 12 volt tv with built in dvd player and digital
> antenna to entertain spouse with movies in the evening.
> Anybody tackled this?  Issues I haven't thought about?
> Bill Walker
> CnC 36
> Pentwater, Mi.
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> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
>
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> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu

-- 
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

Any links – I like to see those trawlers.

jOE

From: Doug Robinson  
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 3:45 PM
To: j...@dellabarba.com; 'Stus-List' 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

One on Yacht World, and one in Bay City Michigan at $49,000.  I wonder how many 
were built?

On 3/18/21 3:38 PM, j...@dellabarba.com   wrote:

Are there any for sale anywhere? I haven’t seen one in years.

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

From: Doug Robinson via CnC-List   

Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 3:30 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com  
Cc: Doug Robinson   
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

Nah...C&C built trawlers:

There are a few on the market and if anyone would like to spice up this forum I 
would love to take a donation to keep up the variety. I was aboard one in the 
yard at NOTL plant and it was lovely, an adaptation of a commercial design they 
had done for the Government.  At 37ft they are currently $50k+ which puts them 
outa consideration for a 86yr skipper..sob

fdr

On 3/18/21 2:54 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List wrote:

Edd

You come to the wrong church with that stink-pot talk...just sayin!

Tom B

At 09:03 AM 3/18/2021, you wrote:

Joe,

We are keeping an open mind, and much will depend one how soon and how much the 
Enterprise-B sells for. 

Big winds and big seas arenâ€™t usually an issue here in Southwest Florida and 
weâ€™d like to get to places like Tampa, Captiva Island, Sanibel, Naples, the 
Keys and even the east coast or Bahamas without spending days to get there. As 
Warp 7 (7 knots), Captiva is about 7 hours away. And, it would be great to hop 
down to Boca Grande or Port Charlotte for lunch without leaving before sunrise 
:-)

I think we are leaning towards a sedan bridge boat with an open cockpit. Ones 
that we have liked so far are the Meridian 341, the Carver 36 Mariner, the Sea 
Ray 400 SB, the Regal 4080 Commodore, Carver 41 CMY, and so on. 

Iâ€™m well aware of the fuel and maintenance costs along with the issues of 
docking (I plan to add thrusters, if the boat doesnâ€™t have them), especially 
since my slip is pretty tight and requires some maneuvering to pull in — I 
couldnâ€™t single-hand dock with this boat now anyway.  

All the best,

Edd

Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

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.¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com   

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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

2021-03-18 Thread David Risch via CnC-List

Stay tuned…I may give you much more fodder to give me much more crap shortly.

From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 2:57 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

Tom,

I’m well aware of that. I worry that once I make the change, Stu may kick me 
off the list.

And if that does happen, someone else will need to step up and give David Risch 
crap so that there’s no void.

All the best,

Edd

Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

On Mar 18, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Edd

You come to the wrong church with that stink-pot talk...just sayin!

Tom B

At 09:03 AM 3/18/2021, you wrote:

Joe,

We are keeping an open mind, and much will depend one how soon and how much the 
Enterprise-B sells for.

Big winds and big seas arenâ€™t usually an issue here in Southwest Florida and 
weâ€™d like to get to places like Tampa, Captiva Island, Sanibel, Naples, the 
Keys and even the east coast or Bahamas without spending days to get there. As 
Warp 7 (7 knots), Captiva is about 7 hours away. And, it would be great to hop 
down to Boca Grande or Port Charlotte for lunch without leaving before sunrise 
:-)

I think we are leaning towards a sedan bridge boat with an open cockpit. Ones 
that we have liked so far are the Meridian 341, the Carver 36 Mariner, the Sea 
Ray 400 SB, the Regal 4080 Commodore, Carver 41 CMY, and so on.

Iâ€™m well aware of the fuel and maintenance costs along with the issues of 
docking (I plan to add thrusters, if the boat doesnâ€™t have them), especially 
since my slip is pretty tight and requires some maneuvering to pull in — I 
couldnâ€™t single-hand dock with this boat now anyway.

All the best,

Edd

Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

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costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
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 Thanks - Stu
.¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com

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Stus-List Re: Barrier Coat.

Well, now that you have blasted all that off, are you going to apply another 10 
layers??

 

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

 

From: Matthew via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 10:31 AM
To: 'Stus-List'
Cc: Matthew
Subject: Stus-List Re: Barrier Coat.

 

Ditto on what Chuck said, except: on my 42 Custom we applied about 10 coats 
(overkill – yes, I know), each coat was a different color to assist with 
recognizing the different layers when sanding, and a 42-foot boat uses about a 
gallon per coat.

 

From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List  
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 10:24 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: John McCrea ; CHARLES SCHEAFFER 

Subject: Stus-List Re: Barrier Coat.

 

I did my project in 2007 so my memory may be blurred.  I found the Interprotect 
2000 coverage to be the same as bottom paint.  If you know how much bottom 
paint is needed to coat your boat, that's how much paint is needed for each 
coat of Interprotect.  They reccommend 4 to 5 coats.  I did 6 cause I did it in 
late fall and didn't want to bottom paint till Spring, so the last coat got 
sanded w 80 grit before bottom painting.  My 34R used about 3/4 of a gallon for 
each coat and the barrier coat is proud of the gel coat at the waterline and 
easier to bottom paint.  I alternated grey and white to apply five full coats 
and did a sixth coat in grey and had some left over that I've used over the 
years for touchups to the keel, etc.  Don't rush it.  Follow the directions and 
allow the 20min induction time after stirring.  I think I bought 2 gallons of 
Grey and two gallons of white, and bought another of grey at the end to paint 
the sacrificial coat and I'm still using that up. 

  

You need to stir this stuff with a paddle and a corded drill cause it's thick 
in the can.  I made the mistake of mixing the first gallon in the can and 
wasted about a quart figuring how much is needed for a coat.  After that, I 
poured paint into a clean bucket or painting pail and added the proper ratio 
hardener.  You can make small batches using measuring cups.  I think it's 3:1 
ratio. 

  

The stuff costs around $100 which is half of what bottom paint costs so don't 
skimp.   It stinks when it starts to kick and is one of only two paints I can't 
stay around.  I painted my bottom at the end of a work day and left for home so 
I didn't have to smell it.   

  

Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C&C 34R 

.   

On 03/17/2021 9:28 AM John McCrea via CnC-List  wrote: 

  

  

All,

 

Has anyone applied a barrier coat lately and can provide some advice on the 
number of coats to achieve the required thickness? I will be applying with a 
roller and trying to estimate the number of gallons to pick up at the Defender 
sale. Talisman will be getting sandblasted next week and want to fair and then 
barrier coat. Thanks!

 

John McCrea

Talisman

1979 36-1

Mystic, CT

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Stus-List Re: Barrier Coat.

2021-03-18 Thread John McCrea via CnC-List

Of course! But hopefully not ten. More like 7 total including bottom paint. Or 
at least that is the hope.

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:17 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Barrier Coat.

Well, now that you have blasted all that off, are you going to apply another 10 
layers??

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

From: Matthew via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 10:31 AM
To: 'Stus-List'
Cc: Matthew
Subject: Stus-List Re: Barrier Coat.

Ditto on what Chuck said, except: on my 42 Custom we applied about 10 coats 
(overkill – yes, I know), each coat was a different color to assist with 
recognizing the different layers when sanding, and a 42-foot boat uses about a 
gallon per coat.

From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 10:24 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: John McCrea mailto:johnmcc...@comcast.net> >; 
CHARLES SCHEAFFER mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: Barrier Coat.

I did my project in 2007 so my memory may be blurred.  I found the Interprotect 
2000 coverage to be the same as bottom paint.  If you know how much bottom 
paint is needed to coat your boat, that's how much paint is needed for each 
coat of Interprotect.  They reccommend 4 to 5 coats.  I did 6 cause I did it in 
late fall and didn't want to bottom paint till Spring, so the last coat got 
sanded w 80 grit before bottom painting.  My 34R used about 3/4 of a gallon for 
each coat and the barrier coat is proud of the gel coat at the waterline and 
easier to bottom paint.  I alternated grey and white to apply five full coats 
and did a sixth coat in grey and had some left over that I've used over the 
years for touchups to the keel, etc.  Don't rush it.  Follow the directions and 
allow the 20min induction time after stirring.  I think I bought 2 gallons of 
Grey and two gallons of white, and bought another of grey at the end to paint 
the sacrificial coat and I'm still using that up. 

You need to stir this stuff with a paddle and a corded drill cause it's thick 
in the can.  I made the mistake of mixing the first gallon in the can and 
wasted about a quart figuring how much is needed for a coat.  After that, I 
poured paint into a clean bucket or painting pail and added the proper ratio 
hardener.  You can make small batches using measuring cups.  I think it's 3:1 
ratio. 

The stuff costs around $100 which is half of what bottom paint costs so don't 
skimp.   It stinks when it starts to kick and is one of only two paints I can't 
stay around.  I painted my bottom at the end of a work day and left for home so 
I didn't have to smell it.   

Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C&C 34R 

.   

On 03/17/2021 9:28 AM John McCrea via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: 

All,

Has anyone applied a barrier coat lately and can provide some advice on the 
number of coats to achieve the required thickness? I will be applying with a 
roller and trying to estimate the number of gallons to pick up at the Defender 
sale. Talisman will be getting sandblasted next week and want to fair and then 
barrier coat. Thanks!

John McCrea

Talisman

1979 36-1

Mystic, CT

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costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
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Stus-List Red Jacket



Then, the story of Red Jacket with Rob Mazza 

 



7 April 2021 at 7pm


Representing a quantum leap in both design and construction, Red Jacket's short 
overhangs, stripped out interior, separate keel and spade rudder, large sail 
plan, and attention to detail would become the hallmarks of all future Ocean 
Racers. However, it was her obsession with light weight combined with high 
strength construction elements, embodied in her use of a fully balsa cored 
hull, that pioneered the way. She was the first Canadian and non-American boat 
to win overall title at the Southern Ocean Racing Conference. 



 





 

 Can't miss this!

 

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Stus-List Re: Barrier Coat.

The blaster was set to remove only paint, not epoxy barrier coating.

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:17 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Barrier Coat.

Well, now that you have blasted all that off, are you going to apply another 10 
layers??

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

From: Matthew via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 10:31 AM
To: 'Stus-List'
Cc: Matthew
Subject: Stus-List Re: Barrier Coat.

Ditto on what Chuck said, except: on my 42 Custom we applied about 10 coats 
(overkill – yes, I know), each coat was a different color to assist with 
recognizing the different layers when sanding, and a 42-foot boat uses about a 
gallon per coat.

From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 10:24 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: John McCrea mailto:johnmcc...@comcast.net> >; 
CHARLES SCHEAFFER mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: Barrier Coat.

I did my project in 2007 so my memory may be blurred.  I found the Interprotect 
2000 coverage to be the same as bottom paint.  If you know how much bottom 
paint is needed to coat your boat, that's how much paint is needed for each 
coat of Interprotect.  They reccommend 4 to 5 coats.  I did 6 cause I did it in 
late fall and didn't want to bottom paint till Spring, so the last coat got 
sanded w 80 grit before bottom painting.  My 34R used about 3/4 of a gallon for 
each coat and the barrier coat is proud of the gel coat at the waterline and 
easier to bottom paint.  I alternated grey and white to apply five full coats 
and did a sixth coat in grey and had some left over that I've used over the 
years for touchups to the keel, etc.  Don't rush it.  Follow the directions and 
allow the 20min induction time after stirring.  I think I bought 2 gallons of 
Grey and two gallons of white, and bought another of grey at the end to paint 
the sacrificial coat and I'm still using that up. 

You need to stir this stuff with a paddle and a corded drill cause it's thick 
in the can.  I made the mistake of mixing the first gallon in the can and 
wasted about a quart figuring how much is needed for a coat.  After that, I 
poured paint into a clean bucket or painting pail and added the proper ratio 
hardener.  You can make small batches using measuring cups.  I think it's 3:1 
ratio. 

The stuff costs around $100 which is half of what bottom paint costs so don't 
skimp.   It stinks when it starts to kick and is one of only two paints I can't 
stay around.  I painted my bottom at the end of a work day and left for home so 
I didn't have to smell it.   

Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C&C 34R 

.   

On 03/17/2021 9:28 AM John McCrea via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: 

All,

Has anyone applied a barrier coat lately and can provide some advice on the 
number of coats to achieve the required thickness? I will be applying with a 
roller and trying to estimate the number of gallons to pick up at the Defender 
sale. Talisman will be getting sandblasted next week and want to fair and then 
barrier coat. Thanks!

John McCrea

Talisman

1979 36-1

Mystic, CT

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costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

2021-03-18 Thread Stu via CnC-List

Sorry – but I never owned a trawler.  Land Yacht yes.

Nobody gets kicked off the list just because went to the dark side, sold their 
C&C or purchased another (ugh) brand.  Once a C&Cer, always in your blood.

Stay safe & healthy
Stu
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Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement [now mast rebuild]

Wow, is that a Silver Dollar on your mast step, or just a Looney?  You must be 
superstitious.  

 

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

 

From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 10:46 AM
Cc: Stus-List; Josh Muckley
Subject: Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement [now 
mast rebuild]

 

The yard used awlgrip 2000, pearl gray if I recall correctly.  Stripped all 
hardware and wiring, welded shut vestigial holes, ground them flat and then 
primed and painted.  Re-wired, refitted, replaced all rod rigging.

 

Here is the link to the whole project.

  
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1eSqX7wZP1r77hD84wDmGAQSI0Tqbn9xm

 

I pretty sure the next question is going to be "how much?"

 

~1k for each rod and hardware.  I have 4 shrouds on each side plus head and 
back.  10 total 

 

~3k for the paint job alone

 

All said and done it came to roughly 20k

 

Josh Muckley 

S/V Sea Hawk 

1989 C&C 37+

Solomons, MD

 

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 10:19 David Swensen  wrote:

Josh, Lets talk about your mast and spreaders. What did you use to paint them? 
They look great.

 

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 9:54 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I replaced my Aqua Signal with the marine beam.  Perfect replacement fit.  No 
problem.  Highly recommend.  I also did Aqua Signal LEDs on the spreaders.  
Very low profile and they work phenomenally - almost too bright!

 

https://store.marinebeam.com/led-masthead-foredeck-combination-light/

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CdFzOH89I3fwlZeumTcWlLxQGST9Mn_S/view?usp=drivesdk

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gIzwa9aDe-08QwoXbRkiSKvJpeaHpOkU/view?usp=drivesdk

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZQiyoFpaXQ5qMJ82CfCZY1GUoUKmx-MM/view?usp=drivesdk

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C9XMVAymHLr3240v5wFePlXiVGKJG6VS/view?usp=drivesdk

 

 

All the best, 

 

Josh Muckley 

S/V Sea Hawk 

1989 C&C 37+

Solomons, MD 

 

 

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 08:55 Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
wrote:

Hello all,

 

I need to replace my masthead (steaming)/Deck Light.  The existing Aqua Signal 
light doesn't impress me as the deck light lens fell off at some point and the 
deck light didn't work.  So, Staying away from Aqua Signal.

 

I've been looking and these light range in price from around $100 all the way 
up to well over $500.  I've seem Marine Beam, with good reviews, at about $125 
and the Signal Mate, with good reviews at about $450.

 

I don't want to spend unnecessarily but, I'm leaning toward the Signal Mate.   
It was good reputation, been around a while and is supposed to be well made.  
Of course the reviews on the Marine beam say they are well made.  There are 
plenty of bad reviews about the aqua signal.  

 

I was hoping some of you could offer some experiences and advise.

 

Thanks,

Danny

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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

You’re thinking of Hank Evans.

 

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

 

From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 3:13 PM
To: 'Stus-List'
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

 

Nah…….Didn’t Stu have a trawler? We take all types here.

Speaking of power, none of the boats you mentioned will be going to the Bahamas 
except in fairly calm weather. You will have the issue of getting there fast 
and then being trapped. I once took a girl home from Walker’s Cay due to this. 
She came across about 120 miles of open ocean with her parents in a *Wellcraft 
18 footer*!

It was flat calm on Saturday and 30+ out of the northwest on Sunday with water 
coming across the runway. We were stuck too, but the next day it was a little 
calmer and I could take off. She needed to get back to school so we took her 
back to Florida. It was probably at least a week before that Wellcraft was 
leaving for home. That is bit of an extreme example, but the typical 30-40 foot 
powerboat wouldn’t have been leaving much sooner.

 

I used to be in the boat fixing and moving business and learned a lot 
delivering various powerboats various places. Always fun to have customer’s 
pride and joy motor yacht 3 stories tall with dinner-plate rudders and the wind 
howling.

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

 

From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 2:57 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

 

Tom,

 

I’m well aware of that. I worry that once I make the change, Stu may kick me 
off the list. 

 

And if that does happen, someone else will need to step up and give David Risch 
crap so that there’s no void. 


All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Captain of the Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL

 








 





 

On Mar 18, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List  
wrote:

 

Edd

You come to the wrong church with that stink-pot talk...just sayin!

Tom B

At 09:03 AM 3/18/2021, you wrote:

Joe,

We are keeping an open mind, and much will depend one how soon and how much the 
Enterprise-B sells for. 

Big winds and big seas arenâ€™t usually an issue here in Southwest Florida and 
weâ€™d like to get to places like Tampa, Captiva Island, Sanibel, Naples, the 
Keys and even the east coast or Bahamas without spending days to get there. As 
Warp 7 (7 knots), Captiva is about 7 hours away. And, it would be great to hop 
down to Boca Grande or Port Charlotte for lunch without leaving before sunrise 
:-)

I think we are leaning towards a sedan bridge boat with an open cockpit. Ones 
that we have liked so far are the Meridian 341, the Carver 36 Mariner, the Sea 
Ray 400 SB, the Regal 4080 Commodore, Carver 41 CMY, and so on. 

Iâ€™m well aware of the fuel and maintenance costs along with the issues of 
docking (I plan to add thrusters, if the boat doesnâ€™t have them), especially 
since my slip is pretty tight and requires some maneuvering to pull in — I 
couldnâ€™t single-hand dock with this boat now anyway.  

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL



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Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com   

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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

Well, that’s good to know

 

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

 

From: Stu via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:35 PM
To: Stus-List
Cc: Stu
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

 

Sorry – but I never owned a trawler.  Land Yacht yes.

 

Nobody gets kicked off the list just because went to the dark side, sold their 
C&C or purchased another (ugh) brand.  Once a C&Cer, always in your blood.

 

Stay safe & healthy

Stu

 

p.s trim your messages 

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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

2021-03-18 Thread Doug Robinson via CnC-List


Here ya go:

(I am suspicious of the third listing as it does not have a C&C cove 
strip and I have only seen 37ft models).  Maybe some C&C alumni could 
fill  us in on this project.  The one in the yard a NOTL seemed  to be 
rather large to me at the time.  I know of one based in Godrich, On some 
time ago.


fdr


http://www.yachtsfsbo.com/inquiry.php?ad_key=73702&d=1985_37_foot_C___C_CML_Trawler

https://boats.oodle.com/detail/c-c-cml-trawler-37-double-cabin/5454451039-miami-fl/

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1982/c-c-c-c-trawler-3730734/




On 3/18/21 4:12 PM, j...@dellabarba.com wrote:


Any links – I like to see those trawlers.

jOE

*From:* Doug Robinson 
*Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2021 3:45 PM
*To:* j...@dellabarba.com; 'Stus-List' 
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

One on Yacht World, and one in Bay City Michigan at $49,000. I wonder 
how many were built?


On 3/18/21 3:38 PM, j...@dellabarba.com  wrote:

Are there any for sale anywhere? I haven’t seen one in years.

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

*From:* Doug Robinson via CnC-List 

*Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2021 3:30 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
*Cc:* Doug Robinson 

*Subject:* Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

Nah...C&C built trawlers:

There are a few on the market and if anyone would like to spice up
this forum I would love to take a donation to keep up the variety.
I was aboard one in the yard at NOTL plant and it was lovely, an
adaptation of a commercial design they had done for the
Government.  At 37ft they are currently $50k+ which puts them outa
consideration for a 86yr skipper..sob

fdr

On 3/18/21 2:54 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List wrote:

Edd

You come to the wrong church with that stink-pot talk...just
sayin!

Tom B

At 09:03 AM 3/18/2021, you wrote:


Joe,

We are keeping an open mind, and much will depend one how
soon and how much the Enterprise-B sells for.

Big winds and big seas arenâ€™t usually an issue here in
Southwest Florida and weâ€™d like to get to places like
Tampa, Captiva Island, Sanibel, Naples, the Keys and even
the east coast or Bahamas without spending days to get
there. As Warp 7 (7 knots), Captiva is about 7 hours away.
And, it would be great to hop down to Boca Grande or Port
Charlotte for lunch without leaving before sunrise :-)

I think we are leaning towards a sedan bridge boat with an
open cockpit. Ones that we have liked so far are the
Meridian 341, the Carver 36 Mariner, the Sea Ray 400 SB,
the Regal 4080 Commodore, Carver 41 CMY, and so on.

Iâ€™m well aware of the fuel and maintenance costs along
with the issues of docking (I plan to add thrusters, if
the boat doesnâ€™t have them), especially since my slip is
pretty tight and requires some maneuvering to pull in — I
couldnâ€™t single-hand dock with this boat now anyway.

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL



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list to help with the costs involved.  If you want to show
your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution
-- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C&C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com 





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   Thanks - Stu

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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

2021-03-18 Thread pete.shelquist--- via CnC-List

I feel safe now.  

 

Hello, my name is Pete,  and I am a Boston Whaler owner.  

 

 

 

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 3:56 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

 

Well, that’s good to know

 

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

 

From: Stu via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:35 PM
To: Stus-List
Cc: Stu
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

 

Sorry – but I never owned a trawler.  Land Yacht yes.

 

Nobody gets kicked off the list just because went to the dark side, sold their 
C&C or purchased another (ugh) brand.  Once a C&Cer, always in your blood.

 

Stay safe & healthy

Stu

 

p.s trim your messages 

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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

2021-03-18 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List


  
  


Might be a lot of fiberglass work - but another was to go
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-powerboat-motorboat/sarnia/1979-sailboat-trawler-conversion/1554313591



There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
  - George Santayana
On 2021-03-18 6:00 p.m., Doug Robinson
  via CnC-List wrote:


  
  Here ya go:
  (I am suspicious of the third listing as it does not have a
C&C cove strip and I have only seen 37ft models).  Maybe
some C&C alumni could fill  us in on this project.  The one
in the yard a NOTL seemed  to be rather large to me at the
time.  I know of one based in Godrich, On some time ago.
  fdr
  
  
  
  http://www.yachtsfsbo.com/inquiry.php?ad_key=73702&d=1985_37_foot_C___C_CML_Trawler
  
  https://boats.oodle.com/detail/c-c-cml-trawler-37-double-cabin/5454451039-miami-fl/
  
  https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1982/c-c-c-c-trawler-3730734/
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  On 3/18/21 4:12 PM, j...@dellabarba.com
wrote:
  
  




  Any links – I like to see those trawlers.
  jOE
   
  

  From: Doug Robinson 

Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 3:45 PM
To: j...@dellabarba.com;
'Stus-List' 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C
40

  
   
  One on Yacht World, and one in Bay City Michigan at
$49,000.  I wonder how many were built?
   
  
On 3/18/21 3:38 PM, j...@dellabarba.com
  wrote:
  
  
Are there any for sale anywhere? I
  haven’t seen one in years.
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina C&C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA
 
 
 

  
From: Doug Robinson via
  CnC-List 
  
  Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 3:30 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Cc: Doug Robinson 
  Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C
  40
  

 
Nah...C&C built trawlers:
There are a few on the market and if anyone would like to
  spice up this forum I would love to take a donation to
  keep up the variety. I was aboard one in the yard at NOTL
  plant and it was lovely, an adaptation of a commercial
  design they had done for the Government.  At 37ft they are
  currently $50k+ which puts them outa consideration for a
  86yr skipper..sob
fdr

  On 3/18/21 2:54 PM, Tom Buscaglia via
CnC-List wrote:


  Edd
  
  You come to the wrong church with that stink-pot
  talk...just sayin!
  
  Tom B
  
  At 09:03 AM 3/18/2021, you wrote:
  
  

  
Joe,

We are keeping an open mind, and much will depend
one how soon and how much the Enterprise-B sells
for. 

Big winds and big seas arenâ€™t usually an issue
here in Southwest Florida and weâ€™d like to get to
places like Tampa, Captiva Island, Sanibel, Naples,
the Keys and even the east coast or Bahamas without
spending days to get there. As Warp 7 (7 knots),
Captiva is about 7 hours away. And, it would be
great to hop down to Boca Grande or Port Charlotte
for lunch without leaving before sunrise :-)

I think we are leaning towards a sedan bridge boat
with an open cockpit. Ones that we have liked so far
are the Meridian 341, the Carver 36 Mariner, the Sea
Ray 400 SB, the Regal 4080 Commodore, Carver 41 CMY,
and so on. 

Iâ€™m well aware of the fuel and maintenance costs
along with the issues of docking (I plan to add
thrusters, if the boat doesnâ€™t have them),
especially since my slip is pretty tight and
requires some maneuvering to pull in — I couldnâ€™t
single-hand dock with this boat now anyway.  

All the best,

Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement [now mast rebuild]

Canadian Silver coin with a nautical theme and minted the same year as my
boat was built.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Royal-Canadian-Mint-1-Silver-Dollar-MacKenzie-River-Exploration-/333860863439?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

No not particularly superstitious but I figured for the relatively low cost
and low effort this little bit of superstition was worth it.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 16:39 Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Wow, is that a Silver Dollar on your mast step, or just a Looney?  You
> must be superstitious.
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> Entrada, Erie, PA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Josh Muckley via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2021 10:46 AM
> *Cc:* Stus-List; Josh Muckley
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo
> replacement [now mast rebuild]
>
>
>
> The yard used awlgrip 2000, pearl gray if I recall correctly.  Stripped
> all hardware and wiring, welded shut vestigial holes, ground them flat and
> then primed and painted.  Re-wired, refitted, replaced all rod rigging.
>
>
>
> Here is the link to the whole project.
>
> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1eSqX7wZP1r77hD84wDmGAQSI0Tqbn9xm
>
>
>
> I pretty sure the next question is going to be "how much?"
>
>
>
> ~1k for each rod and hardware.  I have 4 shrouds on each side plus head
> and back.  10 total
>
>
>
> ~3k for the paint job alone
>
>
>
> All said and done it came to roughly 20k
>
>
>
> Josh Muckley
>
> S/V Sea Hawk
>
> 1989 C&C 37+
>
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 10:19 David Swensen 
> wrote:
>
> Josh, Lets talk about your mast and spreaders. What did you use to paint
> them? They look great.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 9:54 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I replaced my Aqua Signal with the marine beam.  Perfect replacement fit.
> No problem.  Highly recommend.  I also did Aqua Signal LEDs on the
> spreaders.  Very low profile and they work phenomenally - almost too bright!
>
>
>
> https://store.marinebeam.com/led-masthead-foredeck-combination-light/
>
>
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CdFzOH89I3fwlZeumTcWlLxQGST9Mn_S/view?usp=drivesdk
>
>
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gIzwa9aDe-08QwoXbRkiSKvJpeaHpOkU/view?usp=drivesdk
>
>
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZQiyoFpaXQ5qMJ82CfCZY1GUoUKmx-MM/view?usp=drivesdk
>
>
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C9XMVAymHLr3240v5wFePlXiVGKJG6VS/view?usp=drivesdk
>
>
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Josh Muckley
>
> S/V Sea Hawk
>
> 1989 C&C 37+
>
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 08:55 Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> I need to replace my masthead (steaming)/Deck Light.  The existing Aqua
> Signal light doesn't impress me as the deck light lens fell off at some
> point and the deck light didn't work.  So, Staying away from Aqua Signal.
>
>
>
> I've been looking and these light range in price from around $100 all the
> way up to well over $500.  I've seem Marine Beam, with good reviews, at
> about $125 and the Signal Mate, with good reviews at about $450.
>
>
>
> I don't want to spend unnecessarily but, I'm leaning toward the Signal
> Mate.   It was good reputation, been around a while and is supposed to be
> well made.  Of course the reviews on the Marine beam say they are well
> made.  There are plenty of bad reviews about the aqua signal.
>
>
>
> I was hoping some of you could offer some experiences and advise.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Danny
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
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Stus-List Diesel 'folklore'

2021-03-18 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List

FWIW, a former director of maintenance at a large NC trucking company told me 
the following many years ago.
They expected their fleet of large diesel powered tractor trailer trucks to go 
for 400,000 miles when maintained properly. At that mileage, the truck was 
pulled from the fleet, the engine was rebuilt and the rebuilt engine was used 
for the next 350,000 miles, after which it was scrapped. 
Of course the marine environment and limited use of diesel engine on sailboats 
(out of slip, into slip, occasional motoring in no wind or for convenience, 
etc.) is much different than the long haul trucks. OTOH, if one assumes a long 
haul truck averages 40 miles per hour, this comes to 10,000 hours before a 
rebuild (or a new motor.)  This is likely one source of the 10,000 hour life 
number for diesel engine.

Charlie NelsonWater Phantom C&C 36 XL/kcbNew Bern, NC


  On Mar 18, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
 wrote:  Would buying a C&C 40 with an original engine 
be a good idea in 2021? We are running some numbers here and it is basically a 
choice between upgrading and replacing. Coquina is 48 years old now and it is 
time to do some $$$ upgrades or buy another boat with much of the work done. We 
found a used C&C 40 that looks gorgeous below, the interior beats most used 
boats of that era. She seems in good shape, but the engine is original with 
3,000+ hours. An Atomic 4 per the manual should be rebuilt at 3,000 hours if 
FWC, a raw water cooled version would be very lucky to get that far in salt 
water. The Yanmar is FWC. I frequently hear that diesels can last 10,000 hours, 
but then again a significant number of boats from that era are for sale with 
new engines.Also re the rod rigging – the mast is out for the winter. With the 
rigging easily accessed, what would the cost be of a rigging inspection to 
assure that the rod is still good.Thanks!   Joe Della BarbaCoquina C&C 35 MK 
IKent Island MD USA Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the 
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Stus-List Re: Barrier Coat.

I had my bottom stripped this past summer.  The guy used what can only be
described as a hand held planer to strip the gel-coat and layers of
fiberglass.  He relaid 2 layers of fiberglass and then barrier coated it
with a MIL-spec product.  MIL-DTL-24441 Ultra High Solids (UHS) by Sherwin
Williams

https://industrial.sherwin-williams.com/na/us/en/protective-marine/catalog/product/mil-dtl-24441-type-iv.9528308.html

I found a little bit of research from the US Navy about it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Nvoi-ISVw-EBBAdXvqyUkA1ABqBhvKOe/view?usp=drivesdk

The guy that did the job claims he's one of the only people who still do
this type of work in the Chesapeake Bay area.  He raves about the quality
of the MIL-spec stuff.  Said it is a 2 part epoxy (the same as interprotect
2000 but way harder and better). 🤷‍♂️

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1HO_WioKQN365bHuBj0Cp-8bNTvU3KVza

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 09:28 John McCrea via CnC-List 
wrote:

> All,
>
>
>
> Has anyone applied a barrier coat lately and can provide some advice on
> the number of coats to achieve the required thickness? I will be applying
> with a roller and trying to estimate the number of gallons to pick up at
> the Defender sale. Talisman will be getting sandblasted next week and want
> to fair and then barrier coat. Thanks!
>
>
>
> John McCrea
>
> Talisman
>
> 1979 36-1
>
> Mystic, CT
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
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Stus-List Re: 12 volt tv

2021-03-18 Thread WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List

 Thanks, helpful.  I have an old dell..
On Thursday, March 18, 2021, 06:32:11 PM EDT, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 This may not exactly be the direction you want to go but I find old laptops 
with USB DTV dongles and DVD players to be great options.  Pick one with an 
available cigarette lighter charge adapter so that you can charge with 12v.  I 
like the Dell latitude series.  I have an e6540 that I use as a daily.  It is 
quite functional as a desktop computer for all needs while underway.  It has 
Bluetooth so connecting to the Bluetooth stereo is great for filling the boat 
with sound OR connecting to wireless headphones to enjoy privately while 
someone is sleeping.  I suppose that if you need anything larger than a 15 inch 
screen this won't help.
With the DTV adapters you should consider an alternative antenna and USB 
extension cable.  I would mount the USB adapter in a fixed location and then 
connect with the USB extension when desired.  This would allow a semi permanent 
connection to the antenna and a semi permanent antenna mount.  The antenna 
connects with a common SMA or SMB connector and can be easily changed to a 
common digital antenna F coax cable.
SMA to F 
coaxhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/SMB-MCX-MMCX-FME-Male-to-SMA-Female-Plug-Coaxial-Antenna-Connector-Adapter-/153773757987?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

USB DTV 
adapterhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/USB2-0-FM-DAB-DVB-T-RTL2832U-R820T2-RTL-SDR-SDR-Dongle-Stick-Digital-TV-Tuner-/284162576356?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

Laptophttps://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Latitude-E6540-Laptop-2-8GHz-Core-i7-4810MQ-16GB-RAM-No-HDD-No-Battery-/294069605811?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

Cigarette 
adapterhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/90W-Premium-Laptop-Car-Charger-for-Dell-DC-Adapter-Power-Supply-Cord-19-5V-4-62A-/153437407849?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

Josh MuckleyS/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+Solomons, MD 
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 15:33 WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List  
wrote:

Looking at installing 12 volt tv with built in dvd player and digital antenna 
to entertain spouse with movies in the evening.Anybody tackled this?  Issues I 
haven't thought about?  Bill Walker CnC 36Pentwater, Mi.Thanks to all of the 
subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved.  If 
you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution --  
 https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --  https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu  Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
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Stus-List Re: Barrier Coat.

Well Josh, I’m going to say you are way more anal than I thought I was!

You will probably have people lined up to buy your boat when you get ready to 
sell.

 

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

 

From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 7:12 PM
To: Stus-List
Cc: Josh Muckley
Subject: Stus-List Re: Barrier Coat.

 

I had my bottom stripped this past summer.  The guy used what can only be 
described as a hand held planer to strip the gel-coat and layers of fiberglass. 
 He relaid 2 layers of fiberglass and then barrier coated it with a MIL-spec 
product.  MIL-DTL-24441 Ultra High Solids (UHS) by Sherwin Williams

 

https://industrial.sherwin-williams.com/na/us/en/protective-marine/catalog/product/mil-dtl-24441-type-iv.9528308.html

 

I found a little bit of research from the US Navy about it.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Nvoi-ISVw-EBBAdXvqyUkA1ABqBhvKOe/view?usp=drivesdk

 

The guy that did the job claims he's one of the only people who still do this 
type of work in the Chesapeake Bay area.  He raves about the quality of the 
MIL-spec stuff.  Said it is a 2 part epoxy (the same as interprotect 2000 but 
way harder and better). 🤷‍♂️

 

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1HO_WioKQN365bHuBj0Cp-8bNTvU3KVza

 

Josh Muckley

S/V Sea Hawk 

1989 C&C 37+

Solomons, MD

 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 09:28 John McCrea via CnC-List  
wrote:

All,

 

Has anyone applied a barrier coat lately and can provide some advice on the 
number of coats to achieve the required thickness? I will be applying with a 
roller and trying to estimate the number of gallons to pick up at the Defender 
sale. Talisman will be getting sandblasted next week and want to fair and then 
barrier coat. Thanks!

 

John McCrea

Talisman

1979 36-1

Mystic, CT

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costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

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Stus-List 12 volt tv

2021-03-18 Thread Len Mitchell via CnC-List

I am replacing a 10 year + Sharp Aquious flat screen tv with a laptop or a large tablet. The smallest television I can buy is too big. We use a 1TB Western Digital media player to watch movies but there are plenty of options now, you can use a portable hard drive, flash drives or even SD cards. If you have internet you can likely stream your home cable too. Josh has it figured out by charging underway or in advance. You can also watch something in the cockpit if conditions permit. Laptops will let you watch a couple hours without connecting to power if your battery is strong. Check to see if you can get reception with a portable digital antenna, I can’t so a tv isn’t my first choice. Look at the power draw to help you decide. If you have to buy a laptop look at a convertible style, the keyboard folds under like a tablet. 62 days until launch! Len MitchellS/V Crazy Legs1989 C&C 37+Midland On. Sent from my iPadThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
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Stus-List Re: 12 volt tv

I am partway through a similar project, I removed a half dozen stereo 
components  and replaced with what is probably an RV style receiver, a Jenson  
JWM90A that has HDMI in and out and 3 zones, etc – I am planning on using a 
1080 Computer Monitor, with a Motorola Digital recorder for the TV tuner, which 
I already use at home. Hoping to find a monitor that runs on a 14 or 12V power 
supply.  Curious what 12V TY Joel found.

 

Have several other projects to get through before I finish this one up.

 

 

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 15:33 WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List  
wrote:

Looking at installing 12 volt tv with built in dvd player and digital antenna 
to entertain spouse with movies in the evening.

Anybody tackled this?  Issues I haven't thought about?  

Bill Walker 

CnC 36

 

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Stus-List Re: 12 volt tv

2021-03-18 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List

It was
https://www.amazon.com/Free-Signal-TV-Transit-Powered/dp/B07CBSGR5F

Joel



On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 8:03 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I am partway through a similar project, I removed a half dozen stereo
> components  and replaced with what is probably an RV style receiver, a
> Jenson  JWM90A that has HDMI in and out and 3 zones, etc – I am planning on
> using a 1080 Computer Monitor, with a Motorola Digital recorder for the TV
> tuner, which I already use at home. Hoping to find a monitor that runs on a
> 14 or 12V power supply.  Curious what 12V TY Joel found.
>
>
>
> Have several other projects to get through before I finish this one up.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> Entrada, Erie, PA
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 15:33 WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Looking at installing 12 volt tv with built in dvd player and digital
> antenna to entertain spouse with movies in the evening.
>
> Anybody tackled this?  Issues I haven't thought about?
>
> Bill Walker
>
> CnC 36
>
>
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu

-- 
Joel
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Stus-List Re: 12 volt tv

2021-03-18 Thread Ted_Relinda--- via CnC-List

We have a 24 in tv powered by a 410w. Inverter. Plenty of power to run the 
amplified digital antenna too. When channels are not good we plug in the fire 
stick and use our hotspot on the phone. Ted. SV TenTen 40-2Punta Gorda FL. 
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 19:47, Joel Aronson via 
CnC-List wrote:   Bill
I mounted a32 inch 12 volt tv and Velcro’s a 12 volt dvd to the back. 
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 3:42 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Bill,
IMO — There are not many TVs and DVD players that can really hold up to marine 
weather unless you are running dehumidifiers all the time. Also, those digital 
antennas will get you some stations, but not a whole lot. 
Suggest you look into an iPad or other big tablet — there are mounts galore on 
Amazon for mounting in the cabin, you can watch or stream movies off the 
internet, and you’ll have another device for navigation, internet, and, in some 
cases, a repeater/control for your marine electronics. 
We use my iPad air to watch movies and TV (My cable service at home comes with 
free streaming so I can watch anything on the iPad that I can at home, 
including off the home DVR) and I put magnetic mounts in the main saloon and in 
the aft cabin over the bed. 
On our last cruise, we had a beautiful night, sat out in the cockpit and 
watched (big surprise) 2009’s "Star Trek”. 

All the best,
Edd

Edd M. SchillayCaptain of the Starship EnterpriseC&C 37+ | Sail No: 
NCC-1701-BVenice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL





 



On Mar 18, 2021, at 3:32 PM, WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Looking at installing 12 volt tv with built in dvd player and digital antenna 
to entertain spouse with movies in the evening.Anybody tackled this?  Issues I 
haven't thought about?  Bill Walker CnC 36Pentwater, Mi.Thanks to all of the 
subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved.  If 
you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution --  
 https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
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-- 
Joel 

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Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement [now mast rebuild]

2021-03-18 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List

A Bluenose silver dollar would probably be more appropriate, but I don't think 
there is one from 1989. But a Canadian dime for sure is (e.g., 
https://www.coinsunlimited.ca/circulation-coins/all-canadian-circulation-coins-lots-rolls/1989-Canadian-10-Cent-Bluenose-Brilliant-Uncirculated).

Marek
Ottawa, ON

From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
Sent: March 18, 2021 18:49
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Josh Muckley 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement [now 
mast rebuild]

Canadian Silver coin with a nautical theme and minted the same year as my boat 
was built.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Royal-Canadian-Mint-1-Silver-Dollar-MacKenzie-River-Exploration-/333860863439?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

No not particularly superstitious but I figured for the relatively low cost and 
low effort this little bit of superstition was worth it.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 16:39 Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Wow, is that a Silver Dollar on your mast step, or just a Looney?  You must be 
superstitious.

Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie, PA

From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 10:46 AM
Cc: Stus-List; Josh Muckley
Subject: Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement [now 
mast rebuild]

The yard used awlgrip 2000, pearl gray if I recall correctly.  Stripped all 
hardware and wiring, welded shut vestigial holes, ground them flat and then 
primed and painted.  Re-wired, refitted, replaced all rod rigging.

Here is the link to the whole project.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1eSqX7wZP1r77hD84wDmGAQSI0Tqbn9xm

I pretty sure the next question is going to be "how much?"

~1k for each rod and hardware.  I have 4 shrouds on each side plus head and 
back.  10 total

~3k for the paint job alone

All said and done it came to roughly 20k

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 10:19 David Swensen 
mailto:ka123dswense...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Josh, Lets talk about your mast and spreaders. What did you use to paint them? 
They look great.

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 9:54 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I replaced my Aqua Signal with the marine beam.  Perfect replacement fit.  No 
problem.  Highly recommend.  I also did Aqua Signal LEDs on the spreaders.  
Very low profile and they work phenomenally - almost too bright!

https://store.marinebeam.com/led-masthead-foredeck-combination-light/

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CdFzOH89I3fwlZeumTcWlLxQGST9Mn_S/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gIzwa9aDe-08QwoXbRkiSKvJpeaHpOkU/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZQiyoFpaXQ5qMJ82CfCZY1GUoUKm

Stus-List Re: Barrier Coat.

2021-03-18 Thread schiller via CnC-List

We used MIL-P-23337 High Solids Poly Imide Epoxy Primer in the Missile 
business.  We used it not only as a paint but as  a faying surface 
sealer and as a locking compound.  Great stuff.  We would mix up a batch 
into small specimen cups and freeze them.  Pull them out when we need to 
use them.  It would be a good barrier coat material but I would expect 
cost to be an issue.


Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan

On 3/18/2021 7:11 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote:
I had my bottom stripped this past summer.  The guy used what can only 
be described as a hand held planer to strip the gel-coat and layers of 
fiberglass.  He relaid 2 layers of fiberglass and then barrier coated 
it with a MIL-spec product.  MIL-DTL-24441 Ultra High Solids (UHS) by 
Sherwin Williams


https://industrial.sherwin-williams.com/na/us/en/protective-marine/catalog/product/mil-dtl-24441-type-iv.9528308.html

I found a little bit of research from the US Navy about it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Nvoi-ISVw-EBBAdXvqyUkA1ABqBhvKOe/view?usp=drivesdk

The guy that did the job claims he's one of the only people who still 
do this type of work in the Chesapeake Bay area.  He raves about the 
quality of the MIL-spec stuff. Said it is a 2 part epoxy (the same as 
interprotect 2000 but way harder and better). 🤷‍♂️


https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1HO_WioKQN365bHuBj0Cp-8bNTvU3KVza

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 09:28 John McCrea via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


All,

Has anyone applied a barrier coat lately and can provide some
advice on the number of coats to achieve the required thickness? I
will be applying with a roller and trying to estimate the number
of gallons to pick up at the Defender sale. Talisman will be
getting sandblasted next week and want to fair and then barrier
coat. Thanks!

John McCrea

Talisman

1979 36-1

Mystic, CT

Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to
help with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to
the list - use PayPal to send contribution --
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu


Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu


Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
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Stus-List Re: 12 volt tv

My impression from various reviews is that 12 volt TVs tend to be low quality 
devices. We watch shows onboard wit a laptop for the most part, but we have 
used a Kindle Fire on occasion. I would probably just get a decent computer 
monitor instead of a TV. Some of them run off 12 volts and the rest will work 
from an inverter. 

I don’t think I have watched over the air broadcast TV in years, all I see is 
streaming stuff one way or the other.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

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Stus-List Now stink boaters anonymous

Hi, Pete.  My name’s Matt, and I own a Pursuit 18 center console outboard.  But 
it’s for the kids, I swear. 

From: pete.shelquist--- via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 5:03 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: pete.shelqu...@comcast.net
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

I feel safe now.  

Hello, my name is Pete,  and I am a Boston Whaler owner.  

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Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement [now coin superstitions]

Under my mast, I have a 1976 Canadian silver dollar with a sailboat on it, no 
less.  Specially made for the Olympics. 

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:39 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement [now 
mast rebuild]

Wow, is that a Silver Dollar on your mast step, or just a Looney?  You must be 
superstitious.  

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 10:46 AM
Cc: Stus-List; Josh Muckley
Subject: Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement [now 
mast rebuild]

The yard used awlgrip 2000, pearl gray if I recall correctly.  Stripped all 
hardware and wiring, welded shut vestigial holes, ground them flat and then 
primed and painted.  Re-wired, refitted, replaced all rod rigging.

Here is the link to the whole project.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1eSqX7wZP1r77hD84wDmGAQSI0Tqbn9xm

I pretty sure the next question is going to be "how much?"

~1k for each rod and hardware.  I have 4 shrouds on each side plus head and 
back.  10 total 

~3k for the paint job alone

All said and done it came to roughly 20k

Josh Muckley 

S/V Sea Hawk 

1989 C&C 37+

Solomons, MD

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 10:19 David Swensen mailto:ka123dswense...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Josh, Lets talk about your mast and spreaders. What did you use to paint them? 
They look great.

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 9:54 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I replaced my Aqua Signal with the marine beam.  Perfect replacement fit.  No 
problem.  Highly recommend.  I also did Aqua Signal LEDs on the spreaders.  
Very low profile and they work phenomenally - almost too bright!

https://store.marinebeam.com/led-masthead-foredeck-combination-light/

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CdFzOH89I3fwlZeumTcWlLxQGST9Mn_S/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gIzwa9aDe-08QwoXbRkiSKvJpeaHpOkU/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZQiyoFpaXQ5qMJ82CfCZY1GUoUKmx-MM/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C9XMVAymHLr3240v5wFePlXiVGKJG6VS/view?usp=drivesdk

All the best, 

Josh Muckley 

S/V Sea Hawk 

1989 C&C 37+

Solomons, MD 

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 08:55 Danny Haughey via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hello all,

I need to replace my masthead (steaming)/Deck Light.  The existing Aqua Signal 
light doesn't impress me as the deck light lens fell off at some point and the 
deck light didn't work.  So, Staying away from Aqua Signal.

I've been looking and these light range in price from around $100 all the way 
up to well over $500.  I've seem Marine Beam, with good reviews, at about $125 
and the Signal Mate, with good reviews at about $450.

I don't want to spend unnecessarily but, I'm leaning toward the Signal Mate.   
It was good reputation, been around a while and is supposed to be well made.  
Of course the reviews on the Marine beam say they are well made.  There are 
plenty of bad reviews about the aqua signal.  

I was hoping some of you could offer some experiences and advise.

Thanks,

Danny

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Stus-List Re: Now stink boaters anonymous

I have not started my Boston Whaler since December. Can I get a 3 month coin or 
something?

 

Joe

 

From: Matthew via CnC-List  
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 11:01 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Matthew 
Subject: Stus-List Now stink boaters anonymous

 

Hi, Pete.  My name’s Matt, and I own a Pursuit 18 center console outboard.  But 
it’s for the kids, I swear. 

 

From: pete.shelquist--- via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 5:03 PM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: pete.shelqu...@comcast.net  
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: C&C 40

 

I feel safe now.  

 

Hello, my name is Pete,  and I am a Boston Whaler owner.  

 

 

 

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Stus-List Re: Red Jacket

2021-03-18 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List

Cool. I look forward to that.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC


On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 at 13:23, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> *Then, the story of Red Jacket with Rob Mazza*
>
>
>
> *7 April 2021 at 7pm*
>
> Representing a quantum leap in both design and construction, *Red
> Jacket's* short overhangs, stripped out interior, separate keel and spade
> rudder, large sail plan, and attention to detail would become the hallmarks
> of all future Ocean Racers. However, it was her obsession with light weight
> combined with high strength construction elements, embodied in her use of a
> fully balsa cored hull, that pioneered the way. She was the first Canadian
> and non-American boat to win overall title at the Southern Ocean Racing
> Conference.
>
>
>
> *Can't miss this!
> *
>
>
>
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> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks
> - Stu
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Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement [now mast rebuild]