Lost twins
This message is from: Knutsen Fjord Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all - Renee, I was so sorry to hear about your loss. We thought Silka was carrying twins when the vet saw two round things on the 14-day ultra-sound. My trainer and I stood by in tears as he tried to pinch one off. It didn't work, and he was back every other day to make sure which one was growing. He finally decided one was a cyst. The other one turned out to be Pepper. I didn't think I could bear to go through what you just did! As you say, at least mom will recover. My thoughts are with you. Gayle, what you said about long, consistent, training was great. I've sure worked with a lot of humon clients who could have benefited from some structure when growing up! I'm working on it, but there's still a BIG gap between what my head knows and what my body will do. As with field-trialing dogs, those habits and reflexes take a long time to become second-nature. The best one can do is to know when you need help and get it. That, too, can be a challenge. This is the main reason we're selling Rocky - someone else who really knows what they are doing can train him and have a great performer. We, meanwhile, will get another horse[s] as steady and well-trained as Erlend is to ride and/or drive. Thanks for giving us the benefit of your experience, Gayle, Carol, and others. Bye, Peg Knutsen www.eburg.com/~kffjord
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #42
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/6/00 10:06:03 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is a thought to remember when you get your stallion home Wrong Gail -- I would never pretend to have the skill to own a stallion. On the rest I do know what you mean. I think I have an obligation to my animals to let them know that I am, in fact, in charge and will take care of them. They're more comfortable that way and so am I. I don't really understand people who are afraid of their horses because I wouldn't have mine if I was afraid of them. I am aware of what they can do to me (probably accidentally) and I'm cautious, but not afraid.
Re: the invisible man talks about RUNAWAYS
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] So what is the take home message here? If they want to run let them - but make sure YOU decide when they are going to stop running. But Joel, what if you don't have a safe place to let them run? My runa-a-way was heaaded for a busy highway and I was an inexperienced driver. Sure, if it would have been safe I would have let him run, but that busy road was only about 1/10 miles away! After I did get him stopped by heading him into a clump of alders, I was too shaken to think of driving him any further. But what do I know - I'm the invisible man - right? Why do you think you're the invisible man? Maybe we're all afraid to comment, because you might ridicule us, being the oldtime experienced teamster that you are. You seem to have contempt for us novices. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, another glorious day, +28 and sunny! Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
the invisible man talks about RUNAWAYS
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, I can post anything no one will comment on it . Kind of neat actually. But I digress. Runaways. Only had 2 horses do it twice. Anyone at Libby 2 yr ago I think it was? Maybe 3 . Anyway some mares of mine ran on Howard Berge. He put them into a U formed by a car trailer. Then both of us politely asked someone to move the car so we could get out. But all the concerned souls there unhooked us instead. Guess what Howard I wantred to do? WE wanted to get them on the road let them run - for as long far as it took. Then we would have probably gone about a mile further. Then MAYBE we would have turned around come back. Any guesses what those 2 mares did when my son I hooked them at home the next week/? I still couldn't drive so he did. He was 12 at the time.They ran as soon as we got on the road. I guess we ran about 3 miles or so. They got tired. Then we ran another 2 miles or so. Then we turned around went home - at a walk,, trot, or whatever we asked them to do. Couldn't make them run though - we tried. Next day they went out the gate at a very contained trot. They didn't seem to be too interested in running anymore. They never ran again . The next week he drove them in the Pendleton Round Up Parade they were perfect for him. So what is the take home message here? If they want to run let them - but make sure YOU decide when they are going to stop running. But what do I know - I'm the invisible man - right? Bye Joel YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Re: First time in the Sleigh (Long) and Bucking Straps
This message is from: Cheryl Beillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone .. after reading the posts about sleighing and the question about bucking straps, I thought I tell you about my first outing, this afternoon, in my new sleight. Short but educational is how I would describe it. No rally, to be sure, although I did (rally, that is), after almost losing it as we careened over a few boulders (at a brisk trot) under our less than 8 of fluffy new snow, and almost tipping over as we traversed a small hill (not my idea). Today was the first day we had enough snow, temperatures just around freezing (and not 30 below, with wind chill) and SUN to make conditions right, I thought, for trying out my new sleigh (an antique Vermont cutter, in original condition, but still pretty sturdy with reasonably wide runners).I also had a husband and a guest from Washington who were there to catch me (or the horse) if there was serious fallout from this, my first test drive. I put up a brave front but had serious inner doubts about my ability to handle this, knowing that backing up isn't an option and that turning too fast is a serious no no. It took me about a half an hour to adjust the harness from my road cart to fit the sleigh, oil the few screws and things that seemed to need it and .. I'm still not sure if I got it right .. the tugs had a LOT of slack in them, going down hills, and I had to drop the loops for the shafts to their last hole to get them fairly level along Soleia's very rounded (read pregnant) sides .. Soleia hasn't been hitched since November, and some of you may recall, I was having the beginnings of a potentially serious problem with bucking .. the last being a good 300 ft of crowhopping, in which she persisted in a sort of half hearted way (ie. she never connected with the cart, or really got her heels up) .. HOWEVER, as a prudent reader of the list, I immediately sought advice and subsequently purchased a very supple and easy to attach strap designed by Dave McWethy (New Hampshire) .. Dave has used snaps instead of buckles to make it easy to attach or detach .. and it worked superbly. I know because, as anticipated, Soleia did, of course, give a few little bucks (no doubt remembering her modest success last time out!) but had to go sideways, rather than up, I think and she was easily brought under control (no, that's an exaggeration, I am not sure she was EVER completely uner control in this new contraption!). I exercised more caution than the horse and only drove her in the fields and through a bush road on our property for about 20 minutes .. Thought it best to end on a positive note for both of us. There were a few dicey moments, as at one point, she got sort of got me sandwiched between a tree, a culvert (looming very large in my view!) and a rock. Of course, as I quickly discovered, you can't back these things up .. so it was forward, over the culvert, through the tree or over the rock .. I chose the rock. And then some. Found it very difficult to know where they are, of course, and in Renfrew County, Ontario , we have a LOT of rock. I also noticed that turning on a hill is not advisable, and that maybe a trail blazed by snowmobiles with packed snow on a flat surface might be the ideal conditions. The other complication was my new filly, Tunica, who raced up and down the fence line, calling desperately for us to come back.. Didn't help my nerves or Soleia's state of mind .. There were definitely some tense moments, but I learned a few basics, including what to avoid, but I 'm sure there are many more lessons to be learned and I only hope I can get through them without serious misadventure. My visitor from Washington, got as far as his helmet, and then opted to watch with my husband, from a safe distance. I think the first heart-stopping lurch over a rock stopped him dead. Gorgeous day, great potential but confirmed that I really would have preferred to have an experienced sleigh driver with me to oversee the experiment. Boy, when these things hit a bump, you know it! And the noise, on gravel is deafening .. I first led Soleia up the lane, rather than driving , to see how she would react to the noise, but other than a little ear twitching, she was fine. Mostly, it was that she didn't really want to leave her new stablemate -- and it was her first time out in a long time .. it's really been too cold to do much and I've been giving her feet a rest from shoes, so no purchase on the ice which, until this week, was everywhere, making even walking dicey .. So, I survived. The bucking strap, thank you Dave, worked well, and I anticipate it being a big help in the cart, when the snow disappears. It does provide a little more assurance that she won't be able to really get going and it looks great. Actually, Dave, if you're reading this, perhaps you could amplify a bit on what you did to simplify it .. and I love the material it's made of .. also, where exactly on the harness
Re: Youth Program
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mary, Please send me infor on the Youth Program. Whitney works more with her Arab and Quarter Horse, but is starting to ride and drive Major more and even competed in our Minnetonka Horsemen Fun SHow last fall with him. Thanks!! Susan in Eden Prairie
sleighing!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all! Laura mentioned sleighing so I thought I'd tell you about last weekend. Saturday, our family went to the Sleigh and Cutter Parade in Cannon Falls, MN, about an hour from here. It was the first time we had gone to this one. What a friendly group of people (as always with a driving group!). We had a great time sleighing around a groomed track in the park in front of many people who were also there for the dog sled races. It was a partly sunny day and warm by MN standards! Sunday, we went out again to sleigh -- this time to the St. Paul Winter Carnival Sleigh and Cutter Drive at Phalen Park in St. Paul, MN. This was our second year going to this one. The track was wonderful in that they made it so we could pass if need be. There were at least 60 turn-outs in my estimation!!! Every pony and horse type you could imagine!! You would have been proud that there were at least 10 Fjords there, 3 turn-outs being pairs! I heard one participant exclaim, What is this -- a Fjord convention!!?? It was so much fun to see all the variety in sleighs, bobsleds and cutters. The whole affair was followed by a potluck lunch with ribbons awarded for every category imagineable. The sun was shining all day. We couldn't have asked for better snow and weather conditions for sleighing! Only 2 mishaps that day -- one, a pony got loose and was found trotting down Larpentuer Ave., a busy thoroughfare, and two, a Shire accident. I have to tell you about it since it happened 4 feet from us. Major (our Fjord) and our sleigh were passing a gorgeous Shire whom we'd passed several times that day. This time, we passed -- at a walk--- by some green electrical boxes that were well marked in the snow with three painted boards. Right as we passed, the Shire spooked and kicked his sleigh further spooking himself. We turned around to watch the whole horrible incident, helplessly. The Shire obviously wanted to get rid of the thing he had kicked and leaped and bucked and kicked forever it seemed! We are talking about a tall huge horse!! The driver kept the reins in hand but the action by the horse was so violent that it was sending the sleigh up in the air several feet a few times until the driver was literally heaved from the sleigh and into the snow! At that point, all straps had snapped between the horse and the sleigh, and the horse, relieved that he had freed himself from the awful thing behind him, just stood there in the snow looking at his driver as if to say, What happened? The sleigh was a wreck. The guy said he had driven this Shire for many years and he had never spooked before. He wondered if the horse had gotten a charge from the electrical box as he went by??? We went by it several more times that day and had no reaction?? Thank God he had a soft landing in the snow and was not hurt, nor was the horse. I sure felt lucky to have my sweet Fjord, Major, that day!! He was so in his element out in the snow trotting around that afternoon. Makes me wish we lived somewhere where we didn't have to trailer to go sleighing because I know we would go out more often that way. Hope all of you get to enjoy a wonderful wintery day behind your Fjord this winter! Susan in balmy MN
Re: First time Sleighing and Bucking Straps
This message is from: Cheryl Beillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone .. after reading the posts about sleighing and the question about bucking straps, I thought I would open up and tell you about my first short but educational sleigh drive .. no rally, to be sure, although I did (rally, that is), after almost losing it as we careened over a few boulders (at a brisk trot) under our less than 8 of fluffy new snow, and almost tipping over on a turn going down hill (not my idea). Today was the first day we had enough snow, temperatures just around freezing (and not 30 below, with wind chill) and SUN to make conditions right, I thought, for trying out my new sleigh (an antique Vermont cutter, in original condition, but still pretty sturdy with reasonably wide runners).I also had a husband and a guest from Washington who were there to catch me (or the horse) if there was serious fallout from this, my first test drive. It took me about a half an hour to adjust the harness from my road cart to fit the sleigh, oil the few screws and things that seemed to need it and .. I'm still not sure if I got it right .. the tugs had a LOT of slack in them, going down hills, and I had to drop the loops for the shafts to their last hole to get them fairly level along Soleia's very rounded (read pregnant) sides .. Soleia hasn't been hitched since November, and some of you may recall, I was having the beginnings of a potentially serious problem with bucking .. the last being a good 300 ft of crowhopping, in which she persisted in a sort of half hearted way (ie. she never connected with the cart, or really got her heels up) .. HOWEVER, as a prudent reader of the list, I immediately sought advice and subsequently purchased a very supple and easy to attach strap designed by Dave McWethy (Camptown Harness) .. Dave has used snaps instead of buckles to make it easy to attach or detach .. and it worked superbly, because Soleia did, of course, give a few little bucks (no doubt remembering her modest success last time out!) but had to go sideways, rather than up, I think and she was easily brought under control (no, that's an exaggeration, I am not sure she was EVER completely uner control in this new contraption!). I was a little apprehensive and only drove her in the fields and out along a lane we have, for about 20 minutes .. Thought it best to end on a positive note for both of us. There were a few dicey moments, as at one point, she got sort of sandwiched between a tree, a culvert (looming very large in my view!) and a rock. Of course, as I quickly discovered, you can't back these things up .. so it was forward, over the culvert, through the tree or over the rock .. I chose the rock. And then some. Found it very difficult to know where they are, of course, and in Renfrew County, Ontario , we have a LOT of rock. I also noticed that turning on a hill is not advisable, and that maybe a trail blazed by snowmobiles with packed snow on a flat surface might be the ideal conditions. The other complication was my new filly, Tunica, who raced up and down the fence line, calling desperately for us to come back.. Didn't help my nerves or Soleia's state of mind .. There were definitely some tense moments, but I learned a few basics, including what to avoid, but I 'm sure there are many more lessons to be learned and I only hope I can learn them without serious misadventure. My visitor from Washington, got as far as his helmet, and opted to watch with my husband, from a safe distance. Gorgeous day, great potential but a little sobering as an inexperienced driver. Boy, when these things hit a bump, you know it! And the noise, on gravel is deafening .. I first led Soleia up the lane, rather than driving , to see how she would react to the noise, but other than a little ear twitching, she was fine. Mostly, it was that she didn't really want to leave her new stablemate -- and it was her first time out in a long time .. been too cold and I've been giving her feet a rest from shoes, and ice made working with her out of the question.
Re: ragwort
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fiona, it used to be in the old days here that Scotch Bloom was a forbidden plant and you could be fined if it was found growing on your property. So for years it was rarely seen. Now evidently it is a favorite as it lines our highways and no one sees to its removal. Funny how things change. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: bits and carts/wagons
This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Julie-- Saturday, February 05, 2000, you wrote: I think it also helps if the driver is sitting up high enough to have a good view, and the easy entry type cart is fairly low due to small wheels. We are ordering 34 wheels from Milton for ours, which will help. I think you'll be delighted with the new wheels. Since I've installed mine, I now sit high enough to see clearly while driving my 14.2hh Morgan. They also roll so much smoother that the horse has a much easier time maneuvering the cart. One thing I do notice is that the pneumatic tires on the old wheels absorbed alot of the rough ride that now makes it to the seat. Also, be aware that the nice easy entry space in front of the seat will now be pretty much blocked by the wheels. But all-in-all I really love the new wheels. I had so much fun this weekend driving out in the woods, that I'm sending Paul another note of thanks. -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA Then we began to ride. My soul smoothed itself out, a long-cramped scroll freshening and fluttering in the wind. --Robert Browning(1812-1889)
ragwort
This message is from: Fiona Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean I had read about the caterpillars in a horse magazine , but we don't have them available over here. my sister who is very interested in Bugs loves ragwort because its the home of the cinnabar moth which is very beautiful but id rather not have ragwort In a summer Britain's motorways , rail sides and road verges are a sea of golden yellow, in the last few years its spread has been quite alarming considering its on the Dangerous plants /weeds act and you can be made to clear your land But nobody wants to admit its their problem , our local council will only clear a road verge that someone's put a complaint in about and leave the rest Even locally to me Ive seen horses grazing in fields that are maybe 70% ragwort theirs no excuse for it our Horse press print information all the time on the danger! The most worrying thing is that its getting into the hay crops etc. and its more palatable to horses when its dried. Creosote is readily available over here but it is horrible stuff and lots of people use the more friendly stuff Happy Fjording Fiona Yorkshire, England.
Re: sale horses on Digital Camera
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes nothing in my mind beats a digital camera. Mine is a Sony and I just put a floppy disc in and then put it in the computer and Voila, it is off as an attachment. Really great. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
GLORY BITS
This message is from: Sarah Vogeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought the list might find this clip interesting... Hi Sarah, The Glory riding bits was approved 1/15/2000 by the A.H.S.A. Ray Johnson Glorybits _ Sarah Vogeley New Forest Farm Charlottesville, VA
Re: Punishment
This message is from: Bushnell's [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:46 PM 02/06/2000 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Am I getting the idea that we should not hit our horses when they are out of order??? Put me in mind of a time when we were trying to load up my Arab at a well attended horse event; she usually loaded well but this particular day she refused and we were attempting to gracefully coax, cajole, (beg), and were about to go for the butt roap when an old-timer cowboy sauntered past, packing a whip, and he nonchalantly popped her a good one without breaking stride! She shot in like a hockey puck. We wouldn't have done that but were grateful that he did, and I confess we've had to use his trick once since. Of course with Fjords that's not necessary =) Ruthie, NW MT
Thank you so much
This message is from: Wild Flower Fjord Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you to everyone for all your sincere kind words. It was a very traumatic experience as it was our first for our farm, but as on the positive side we are very thankful that the mom is doing very well. We feel that all the horses knew of what happened today as they were always coming to the barn and looking in on Hanna through the window. Artur the sire knew because he was restless and always looking at Hanna. We did not know that she was going to have twins but thank god she is fine and there will be many more foals to come. Once again thank you from the bottom of our hearts!! Renee, Robert and Maureen Lafleur Wild Flower Fjord Farm www.geocities.com/Fjords2000/Fjords2000.html -- MZ
Re: weed control
This message is from: Bushnell's [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:07 AM 02/06/2000 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: Martha Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is just a bit of information for the list. I am from Montana and we have a Weed Control Association here and I think there will be other organizations in other areas. All of your questions can be answered by them, .snip Montana State University is doing extensive research on grazing practices, competitive planting, use of bio-control (insects) and use of chemical. I work with the state of Montana and MSU on a new invaders project so I have been involved in some of the research. Weeds are not something to be overlooked! If you have any questions I'll be happy and try and answer them and if I can't I'll find out who can, but do remember that the best answers will come from local organizations. Take care, Martha Smith from that little bit of heaven called Montana Hi Martha, I believe that was my quote at the top of your post.. nice to hear from a fellow Montanian! Don't know what part you're from, but here in the NW it would be impossible to overlook knap weeds! There is hardly not a mountain trailhead that doesn't sport their purple flowers in profusion! Probably compliments of radical logging practises using corporate machinery on clearcutting, consequently scarifying the ground for weed sowing. Clearcutting is a despicable logging practise condoned by USFS. It looks to me like we started too late on this one and aren't focusing on the biggest offenders. As for contacting weed associations, university, extension, etc. .. been there, done that. I will not use chemicals. There is some reason why cancer is increasingly widespread and until they figure it out I can't think of a better reason NOT to use them! (that's my soapbox). I will look forward to hearing from you. We tried controlling Knap Weed with water and all they do is lay low... they get real short, flatten out like pancakes, but the first real hot day they suddenly shoot up and desperately throw seeds... whoa, just kidding! I'm going to try the vinegar idea Ursula, appreciate all the input on this. I'm afraid this weed issue has only just begun. Ruthie, NW MT
Re: This morning's lost
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh Renee' what a sad morning. Don't want to even picture the scene. Things do get better, sounds trite but sometimes helps. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: See you later!
This message is from: Bushnell's [EMAIL PROTECTED] Barbara, hate to see you go! sincerely hoping it works out that you return to the list some day... until then, God Bless You! Ruthie, NW MT At 11:58 AM 02/06/2000 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: Lapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi friends, Just want to let you know I'll be leaving the fjord list. Many thanks for all the interesting and educational discussions, and to Steve, thank you for making the discussion possible. I'll miss it, especially the upcoming foal stories - and I'll miss annoucing our Onalee's big day late this month. And I'll miss learning more about the great Fjords of today and yesteryear... and many other things. I have printed out many peices of information, and bound them in a book. So the generous contributions of you all won't be forgotten. Aside from print and paper, you've etched an irreversable education on Hannah and my first two years of Fjording. Our education is far from complete, but at this time I'm bound to many duties besides Fjords, and the day came when I had to tell myself to pick priorities. Perhaps someday Hannah will learn to use the e-mail, and jump back in. Or maybe me... I wish everyone the best. Barbara Lyn Lapp Lapp Family Fjords Cassadaga, NY 14718
Re: weed control, evaluation
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:26 AM 2/6/00 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: Jon Mary Ofjord [EMAIL PROTECTED] Evaluations: Does the Canadian Fjord Horse Association (CFHA) have evaluations? If so, can one get an NFHR registered horse evaluated there? Is it possible to get a CFHA horse evaluated at an NFHR evaluation? As far as I know, the only North American Evaluations are the ones held by the NFHR. I have never heard of any in Canada. (except for a Dutch Keuring) Mike: Am I correct in assuming that the two registries recognize each others horses? The NFHR recognizes the Canadian registrations and will transfer a Canadian horse's registration to the NFHR if it meets all of the rules and regulations of the NFHR. Most do. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: This morning's lost
This message is from: saskia schoofs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Renee, what a terrible news. I am so sad for you. Saskia
Re: This morning's lost
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:01 PM 2/3/00 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: Wild Flower Fjord Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi there; This morning has been pretty sad. one of our mares lost a set of twins. It is the first time we loose a foal out of 14 foals born here. One was still alive when born but then later died. She would have given birth to two colts. Oh that is sad Renee. Did you know she was going to have twins???
Punishment
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Am I getting the idea that we should not hit our horses when they are out of order??? Ever watch horses being disciplined by the herd? That is one way they quickly learn who is boss. My large horse, when he was a yearling, used to pester the day lights out of his baby sitter, my old Arab. It could go on for hours it seemed and finally the old boy would take a big bite to Charlie's shoulder and the game would stop. For awhile. Charlie is a tester. I get the same reaction re the lipping and then the nip, the can I get away with it this time look. My farrier once said Charlie should have been disciplined with a two by four. Like the short one my voice carries better than the whipping some instances.. I saw a horse come flying out of a trailer with a hay net stuck to his hoof. The owner was attached to the lead. I let out a mighty whoa and that horse stopped as did horses warming up for the next class. But there are times when a horse needs the crop or a jab to get his attention, i.e. the farrier. Softness works for soft horses but not for testers or the mighty stallion. And I would not hide where it was coming from. Alpha mares/dominant stallions do not hide behind bushes and trip the offender as he goes by. They are kicking and biting the offender to let him/her know who is boss. This is not meanness if it is quick and assertive. Meanness is loosing ones control and beating etc. The latter doesn't teach it terrifies or breaks the will. A horse is just as capable of learning as we are and sometimes we all need a good kick to get us back on the path. Again my horses are not afraid of me, do not flinch, well Gunnar still does from previous treatment, and are well mannered most of the time Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: took my breath away.....
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/6/00 1:06:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If I have ever seemed that way to anyone else, I certainly apologize. Would ask that if we ever meet at a horse show or event, that folks don't misinterpret my focus for aloofness! I remember meeting you briefly, very briefly g at the Evaluation in Oregon. It was easy to see your focus and dedication, and your hard work, making it run smoothly. Still, in all that, with all the commotion whipping around you, I found you were quite friendly. Someday in the near future, I'd love to see you and Dusty work. Maybe in Albany, but we'll just be getting back from Hawaii. And I tend to want to be with my ponies when I've been away more than a day or two. Pamela
Nice page
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Its fun finding other Fjord owners. http://hometown.aol.com/rottsrgr8/fjordpferd.html Dun Lookin' Fjords Bud, Tillie Amy Evers Redmond OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
Stallion discipline
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the reminder about stallion behavior Gayle. I need all the help I can get! I wasn't actually the Gail with the farrier-disciplined filly - that is Gail Dorine in NM. The Gail who purchased Romulus and has him at Brian and Ursula Jensen's for training is Gail Russell - of Northern California. For the first time in my life I am not the only Gail in my immediate world - online or otherwise. :) I understand exactly what you are saying Gayle. The trick will be in the implementation. I have a QH gelding who is extremely dominant. Thank goodness he was not left a stud. No one can actually dominate him full time. It is a never ending battle to keep him behaving submissively - and one I am still learning how to pursue. He isn't exactly mean. (In fact, quite a sweet horse when he finally quits challenging you.) It is more like, he starts lipping you - if you don't do something about it, he gently bites you (with this really strange look in his eye - like - Oh, I'm getting away with this.) The hard part is to discipline him in such a way that he doesn't take it as a challenge to fight back. I would be interested in your take on how to discipline properly - it takes some finesse I've not entirely mastered. One thing that seems obvious is to try to convince him that God (not the trainer - but God) descends on him when he is naughty in my presence. Helps if he cannot see it coming. I've tried slinging the end of the lead rope (with Romel clappers on it) at his belly when he dives for grass. (I believe grass diving is very bad - a symptom/cause of other disobedience and lack of respect.) Problem is with my coordination - he sees it coming - and knows it is me - and then just plans his diving to evade it. OR... he figures he doesn;t mind taking the risk. Anyway - that technique doesn't work, so I've gone back to kicking in the belly (behind my back) when the head goes down. That seems to work best.I've also been shown how to sweep the ground with the whip under his nose - but that results in a head going up fast - and he still knows where it comes from. A friend of mine has tried yelling directly at a horse's ear as a way to try to exert dominance. Not sure whether it works or not. My farrier is a GENIUS with a hard yank on a horse's lead rope when he is not paying attention to him. It really works. He has tried to show me - but my timing is still no where near as good as his. (This guy is a friend of Ray Hunt - been training a long time.) He also showed me how to give a horse slack, and THEN yank hard - not HOLD the rope. Another thing that works very well is a nice trail ride where he has to be on the bit much of the time. It is not just tiring him out - but forcing him to work more off his hindquarters - that does it. Well - anyway - the above are just examples of my search for good things to do with my body so as to get respect, and not a fight-back response instead. I'd be interested in your observations about the things that do AND dO NOT work in teaching respect. At 02:42 PM 2/6/2000 EST, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The last time my farrier came (he is very good with a great reputation), my younger mare ... This has gotten to be quite a joke around my barn. I am a little, bitty, squirt, 5 feet nothing on a tall day. Yet the folks in my barn have jokingly labeled me the ALPHA BITCH. If I clear my voice in a certain way, the stallions and other horses pause -- knowing that something they just did was inappropriate and they'd better knock it off. Obviously, I did not achieve the position of dominant mare in their minds by brutalizing them!! Here is a thought to remember when you get your stallion home -- particularly during breeding season -- stallions can be nothing more than a thousand pound weenie, a half ton of sex drive. They MUST be taught to respect you and your space! In other words, they must recognize you as their alpha mare. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clicker List Web Site : http://clickryder.cjb.net
Re: took my breath away.....
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 2/5/00 12:37:23 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
when you were at Libby last year, as Dusty was galluping up the side of the
arena during the Freestyle Reining demonstration {sorry about the poorly
constructed sentence} I could see how much
heart he had and what a great team you guys were and I had to catch my
breath{actually I started crying}afterwards I was going to go up and
talk to you but I chickened out. The other day I remembered that moment so I
thought I'd tell you about it.see ya...Linda
Hi Everyone,
I just received this letter in a private email from Linda. I wanted to share
this with everyone, particularly in light of several recent postings
regarding training of our Fjords. I have heard this comment on many
occasions about the relationship between Dusty and I. My explanation is that
we have become soul-mates. We nearly read each other's minds.
This has come from spending time with each other, wet saddle blankets,
whatever you wish to call it. Perseverance, patience, persistence has always
been my advice to serious students and was similarly stated by one of our
listers today and in Carol Rivoire's recent posts. There are NO SHORTCUTS!
It takes years to achieve any high level of accomplishment, not 30-60 days!
My point in sharing this with all of you is that this type of relationship
can be achieved by each and every one of you if you are dedicated and
committed enough to make it happen! It is rewarding beyond belief!
By the way, in my answer to Linda, I told her that she made me feel bad for
'chickening out' to talk to me. Gosh, I never thought that I was very
intimidating! Perhaps intense and concentrating on the job before me,
especially when I have several horses and students under my wing, but sure
have never meant to seem beyond approach. If I have ever seemed that way to
anyone else, I certainly apologize. Would ask that if we ever meet at a
horse show or event, that folks don't misinterpret my focus for aloofness!
Good luck to everyone in the pursuit of your Fjord goals and remember, there
is no substitute for perseverance, patience, and persistence!
Gayle Ware
Field of Dreams
Eugene, OR
Re: John L and Fjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Catherine, We own the Fjord filly that was at Columbus! We had sold her to the 'show producer' that winter, and bought her back a year later. She is a easy going, big girl now, fun to ride and drive. Bernadine Karns Nottawa Crossing Fjords Marshall, Mi
horse's headaches
This message is from: sini seppala [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have often wondered if horses sometimes get headaches like we do Have wondered about that, too, and I think horses' heads and bellies etc. ache at times just like ours - why wouldn't they? After all, horses are even more sensitive to for instance changes in their diet than many other animals. Have also heard of a horse who, according to the owner, clearly had pains which were related to the mare's hormonal cycle. I guess we easily think that the horse is just being difficult or testing us or whatever. What if he's stiff and ouchy from yesterday's exercise, or has a pulled muscle that won't cause visible limping (just like we may have some really sore spots that won't prevent us from moving but still hurt a lot), or is fighting an infection that makes him feel weak although we can't notice anything out of the ordinary. Greetings from snowy Juhola where the horses are having their supper out in the pasture and the sky is deep blue tonight. Sini. http://www.saunalahti.fi/~partoy/Juhola6.html
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #40
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/5/00 4:47:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The last time my farrier came (he is very good with a great reputation), my younger mare who is usually pretty good was just being a brat and she would wiggle and try to walk away. He was pretty patient with her, even offered to let her eat while he was working and she still acted like an impatient brat. All of a sudden he hauled off and smacked her hard in the side - not angrily just firmly. Since I never strike my animals, I don't know who was more shocked me or her. And I'd be really mad except for one thing -- damned if it didn't work. She behaved like a total saint for the rest of the time. I'm still bemused at my mixed feelings about it. He said he raised 3 boys the same way, smacked each of them about once and after that, he'd just look at them. Hi Gail, SPARE THE ROD AND SPOIL THE CHILD - sound familiar? Words of wisdom from GOD HIMSELF! What your farrier did was speak to your horse in 'horse language'! Think about that a bit. When foals cross the line of appropriate behavior, their Mom nips, stomps, to let them know that their behavior is unacceptable. If inappropriate behavior is let go without parameters and guidelines being established, you end up with a rude, dangerous critter. There is nothing wrong with a sharp reprimand. It is not cruel or abusive, it is a matter of self preservation for you and other people who are exposed to your animals. Horse owners (AHEM - particularly STALLION owners) need to learn to establish themselves in their horse's mind as the ALPHA MARE. Please don't misunderstand, I do not mean that you need to make your horse bleed or break a rib. Dealing with horses is a physical game played in a mental medium. It has to be, since we are so much smaller physically. This has gotten to be quite a joke around my barn. I am a little, bitty, squirt, 5 feet nothing on a tall day. Yet the folks in my barn have jokingly labeled me the ALPHA BITCH. If I clear my voice in a certain way, the stallions and other horses pause -- knowing that something they just did was inappropriate and they'd better knock it off. Obviously, I did not achieve the position of dominant mare in their minds by brutalizing them!! I raised my children in the same manner, as apparently did your shoer. I can say with confidence that there was never a time when folks wouldn't invite us to dinner when my children were young. However, I know a few folks that I will never invite over a second time because their children are so obnoxious, out of control, and rude. The same applies to our horses. We must make sure that they are disciplined enough not to be a hazard to everyone's' health! Here is a thought to remember when you get your stallion home -- particularly during breeding season -- stallions can be nothing more than a thousand pound weenie, a half ton of sex drive. They MUST be taught to respect you and your space! In other words, they must recognize you as their alpha mare. Just a few words of wisdom from someone who has 'been there, done that' Gayle Ware Field of Dreams Eugene, OR
This morning's lost
This message is from: Wild Flower Fjord Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi there; This morning has been pretty sad. one of our mares lost a set of twins. It is the first time we loose a foal out of 14 foals born here. One was still alive when born but then later died. She would have given birth to two colts. Renee Lafleur Wild Flower Fjord Farm www.geocities.com/Fjords2000/Fjords2000.html -- MZ
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #40
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/5/00 4:47:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now that will be cool for him to see for sure. Are you going to get Anne to take Wez along too? Mike, I did ask Anne, but didn't look like she'd be able to? Darn! Gayle Ware Field of Dreams Eugene, OR
Re: weedkiller
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] As I understand you are speaking of the additive in gasoline that has spread underground to our water supplies? Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
shoeing tips
This message is from: Ingrid Ivic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everyone and thanks to all for the input on shoeing experiences...interesting to read peoples solutions to issues that come up...everything from smacking...to feeding tidbits...to pain related reactions, like this: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ingrid, about your bad shoeing experienceI had a similar reaction from my usually, very quiet horse when he got shod, and it was caused by a painful abscess After a very nice E-mail from Dr.Brian J.(who I thank for taking the time to write), I decided to call our own vet out yesterday to give our mare a thorough going over (her back, legs, hooves, etc)...it just bothered me to think she was suddenly just being a brat...not in character for her. Plus, even though this new farrier was somewhat abrupt with her, the fact that he hadn't even started to nail yet, prompted me to think maybe this WAS more pain-related afterall. I do remember him trying to knock a formed snowball out of her hoof right beforehand(lightbulb going on now...!) She had been fine for me and the usual hoof picking since then, but the vet did a bunch of other things...tapping, flex-testing and the pinscer-thingy (yeah, I know, technical term here) and WOW...look out! Poor dear did her best Lippizan imitation...talk about airs-above-ground...(who said fjords can't do this? He-he-he) Turns out she does have an abscess...a very painful one at that. We'll treat her for this and I know she will be fine...case solved! PS...I do respect the work that farriers and vets have to do...not easy jobs at all. Ingrid ;o)
Re: weeds
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fiona, we have tansy ragwort here too. There is a caterpillar that eats it and eventually destroys it. I borrowed a few caterpillars from a friend whose tree farm had been treated with the bugs. I do not have a problem at this time, only one small patch that I pull each year. Ran out of caterpillars. I hear that burning the plants circulates the seeds. This is a deadly plant as horses build up a residue in their system and it eventually kills them.. A bit like xray, as you do not notice anything until it is too late. Fortunately unless you have a horse who will eat anything, fjords?, there is a bad taste to the plant. My Charlie ate the heads off six plants when he was five months that I had not seen. So far so good. Also it is my understanding that creosote is no longer allowed here? Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes Noble Book Stores
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #39
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/5/00 7:03:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd like to share something I've been thinking about for some time. Several months ago there was a comment from one of the members of the NFHR board of directors that they often didn't really read the list, and recently, one of the members of the board unsubscribed from the list. In my opinion, these directors are not acting in good faith with those who elected them. I know that there is a person designated as liaison between the list and the board, but I think that every member of the board should read the list for her/him self. While I don't think that any action of the board should be directly influenced by anything that is said on this list, I do think that every member of the board has an implicit contract with every member of the NFHR to use EVERY means at his or her disposal to keep in touch with what those members are thinking. If this means spending 20 minutes a day reading this list in hopes of seeing something relevant to board actions once every couple weeks, then so be it, it's part of what he or she contracted with us as members to do. If they're too busy to do that, then they're too busy to represent us on the BOD. - -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA Noblest of the train that wait on man, the flight-performing horse. --William Cowper(1731-1800) Steve, Well said. I served on the BOD for 6 years and wish that I had had this Digest to keep me abreast of the membership's needs! Gayle Ware Field of Dreams Eugene, OR
pulling
This message is from: Jim and TammyHooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings to all on the list. I have learned a lot. Thanks to the DNA test I now know for sure the identity of my Fjord mare.Later this summer my husband wants to teach our Fjord gelding (who will be 4 years old) to pull. We have a lot of fallen timber on our property that needs to be cleared. My husband may be interested in recreationally competing as well. Can anyone suggest where we can get books that will give us teaching tips on training to pull. Thank you, Tammy Hooper Bonners Ferry, ID where we feed deer, elk, and moose as well as our Fjords
Re: See you later!
This message is from: Jon Mary Ofjord [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:58 AM 2/6/00 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: Lapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi friends, Just want to let you know I'll be leaving the fjord list. Many thanks for all the interesting and educational discussions, and to Steve, thank you for making the discussion possible. Best of luck to you and thanks for your input to the list. Hope to hear from you again. Jon and Mary
Re: weed control, evaluation
This message is from: Jon Mary Ofjord [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thistles are related to artichokes which taste pretty good to me. Thistles are also edible to most humans ( not just Euell Gibbons ). So in some instances it is possible to eat your way to healthier pastures! Evaluations: Does the Canadian Fjord Horse Association (CFHA) have evaluations? If so, can one get an NFHR registered horse evaluated there? Is it possible to get a CFHA horse evaluated at an NFHR evaluation? Carol: As you live in Canada, how do you have your horses evaluated and registered? NFHR, CFHA, or both? Just curious as I live very close to the Canadian border and if all things were equal it may be more convenient. Mike: Am I correct in assuming that the two registries recognize each others horses? Jon
FJORD CHAT SUNDAY NIGHT
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Re: weed control
This message is from: Martha Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've long been opposed to the use of chemicals but the Knap Weed is so bad here we need to do something soon. Sure hope someone responds to this one. This is just a bit of information for the list. I am from Montana and we have a Weed Control Association here and I think there will be other organizations in other areas. All of your questions can be answered by them, whether it is a question of type of weed, competitive planting, grazing practices that help control weeds or misgrazing practices that promote the growth of the weeds themselves, and yes they can answer the chemical questions. It is very important to get 'local' information before you consider using a chemical. There are many things to consider like will that chemical work on the weed in question, persisitance in the soil, water table location If you don't have a local weed shop or control association you can contact your local extension agent or department of agriculture. Montana State University is doing extensive research on grazing practices, competitive planting, use of bio-control (insects) and use of chemical. I work with the state of Montana and MSU on a new invaders project so I have been involved in some of the research. Weeds are not something to be overlooked! In the long run they can be economically devastating to agriculture and livestock production. This is a huge concern for Montana and should be for other states, too! Whoops, sorry about the soapbox, but we have a small cattle and horse (yes, we have Fjords) ranch in Western Montana and weeds are something that we are very concerned about. If you have any questions I'll be happy and try and answer them and if I can't I'll find out who can, but do remember that the best answers will come from local organizations. I will be gone for the next week working my other job which deals with disasters and emergencies so be please be patient about getting a reply. Take care, Martha Smith from that little bit of heaven called Montana
See you later!
This message is from: Lapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi friends, Just want to let you know I'll be leaving the fjord list. Many thanks for all the interesting and educational discussions, and to Steve, thank you for making the discussion possible. I'll miss it, especially the upcoming foal stories - and I'll miss annoucing our Onalee's big day late this month. And I'll miss learning more about the great Fjords of today and yesteryear... and many other things. I have printed out many peices of information, and bound them in a book. So the generous contributions of you all won't be forgotten. Aside from print and paper, you've etched an irreversable education on Hannah and my first two years of Fjording. Our education is far from complete, but at this time I'm bound to many duties besides Fjords, and the day came when I had to tell myself to pick priorities. Perhaps someday Hannah will learn to use the e-mail, and jump back in. Or maybe me... I wish everyone the best. Barbara Lyn Lapp Lapp Family Fjords Cassadaga, NY 14718
John L and Fjords
This message is from: Catherine Lassesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Lyons at Equine Affaire in Columbus Ohio in 1997. Used a fjord 3 year old filly. The producer of the show owned her. I was in charge of her for the weekend. John was quite nice to work with and to watch working with the horses. I am sure he will find Dusty a gem. CL
BOD and List
This message is from: Catherine Lassesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve, With this being the only general membership voice out here... I agree with you that you would think if they want to hear the views of the group. Goes without saying. Watch how you cast your vote. Try to know the people on the BOD and that are running for it. Catherine Lassesen
Stallions
This message is from: Catherine Lassesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I brought my calipers to the Norway Stallion Show, but no one wanted to use them. (LOL) Susan G. thought I was funny. They stayed in the hotel room. I would have used them on one stallion I was looking at. But the price went up when the people from Switzerland wanted him too. At AI school, they show you how to use of them and how to palpate and what to look for. My 2 cents. CL
Tanks
This message is from: Catherine Lassesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] An old-timer told us. Place a 1/2 pound of hamburger outside for the flies to harvest on it. Wait until you cannot stand the smell, then flush it down the toilet. He never had a problem with this tank in 30 plus years. Catherine L.
more on weeds, fjords
This message is from: McInvailles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear List, We run an organic vegetable farm and weeds are a constant battle. The old adage is: the best weed control is the farmer's shadow. We do not use herbacides, but do rarely use organic (natural derivitives from plants) instecticides and companion planting/beneficial bugs. I don't know how practical it is for under fences, but we put black plastic down in the fall or early spring. This could also be placed under fences, but around here that is alot of black plastic strips!! You can staple it to the ground with landscaping staples. Black plastic is cheaper than the other versions. You then add mulch over the plastic (any mulch you don't think the fjords would eat...shavings, leaf rakings, straw?). Some folks can forget the black palstic and just mulch. This may decrease how often you need to weed eat. Finally, torching does work and can add nitrogen back to the soil. (The blueberry farmers do this each fall to the crop to enhance growth the following year). for the fjord experts: We need to sell our filly (born last May) this year. I think she is the bees-knees and will be sad to see her go. How do I decide on a price for her? I have other horse friends who think she has good conformation, but they are not fjorders. Any suggestions? Krissy
Re: List as Communication
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:02 PM 2/5/00 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) And I feel just as strongly that the subjects discussed on each and every Conference Call should be made available to members either through the List, or put on the NFHR website, or better yet. . .BOTH! Think about it. Doesn't that make sense? Five hundred heads are better than nine . . . The minutes of Conference Call meetings published quarterly in the Herald just don't do it. Carol the minute of the NFHR BOD meetings ARE posted on the NFHR web site as soon as they are approved.Here is a link to the location of them: http://www.nfhr.com/newsinfo.html#Minutes All NFHR members (Fjord owners) have a stake in everything discussed and decided by the BOD. Some of us who are professionally involved have more at stake, and yet we have no opportunity to either participate or protest. This should be changed. I'm glad Steve brought it up. I'm definitely not happy with the current situation. So you want a conference call with 750 people on the line? If anyone wants to send an email to the entire NFHR Bod I will forward anything that is written to them. Send your emails to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sleigh Rally in VT
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yesterday was a beautiful day for a sleigh rally. There were only about ten people, but two Fjords. Marnix and Andvik or Andy a horse sized gelding owned by Martha Quinlan and bred by Becky Mayer who's on the list. Andy was Reserve Horse Champion and Marnix was Single Pony Champion. The snow mobiles were also out in full force, they use the trails on GMHA property. During my work-off in a sizable Ladies to Drive Class about 20 snow mobiles came flying down the hill and stopped whereby one or two loudly revved their engines. I had been working all day to keep Marnix from reacting, not out of fear, but exuberance, as when he sees them in our fields he usually runs and bucks as if he's playing with them. He'd been really good and was paying attention to me until the work off when the sheer numbers and volume of engine noise became too much. However it was only a momentary lapse and he came back to me quickly and finished the figure eight with a nice square halt and obedient stand. We still managed to get a second place ribbon with no apparent grumbling from anyone as everyone agreed I'd been sabotaged. I had a wonderful day off the farm and enjoyed visiting with so many friends. Enjoyed the good food afterwards and I think Marnix was happy to be out as well. The weather here has been very good for sleighing, soft snow, no crust and bright sunshine. My husband and daughter left early this morning for a brief trip to Arizona to visit family so Connor and I are in charge. I have two new ducks both of whom were rescued and I am enjoying the interaction between the old and new ducks as they sort out their pecking order. HaHa! Vivian
