Re:Genie
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/31/2005 8:15:54 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am 51 and in someways feel like my riding time may be running out, yet I feel if I am careful and take it slowly, I will still get to ride when I am much older. Finne is only 6 and a half so he may be my last horse and I want to do it right with him, no matter how long it takes. Genie, you gotta think more positive than that girl! My stepfather just quit riding the hills at about 75. He still misses it and gets on a borrowed horse once in awhile. He is 81 this March! He now is raising and driving Mini's so he is not without horses :) Lou DoubleDay Farm - Miniature Horses I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody. Bill Cosby. Things will remain as they are until the pain of change is less than the pain of staying the same.
Re: long maybe boring toot toot
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wow Lisa!!! congrats! That is so neat you can show them how it is done. I am proud of you and your Fjordie!! I just started riding again after a layoff of a couple of years (other than a little walk up the road now and then on my 24 y.o. Arab). I understand your feelings totally! Hubby got me a new horse for Christmas and we hope to hit the trails this summer. Perhaps we can come see YOU! I would also bring a driving horse of course. grin Please keep us informed of your experiences. Sounds like you are in for a great time. My new horse is not a Fjord, but someday I may get one again. They are simply the best. Lou DoubleDay Farm - Miniature Horses I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody. Bill Cosby. The best thing to do if you find yourself in a hole is quit digging !!!
Re: very important message from Lisa
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/24/2004 4:08:48 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have some very sad news to tell all of you. PAV Karen AKA Equinelady passed away Saturday morning. Her husband called me last night and I told Dan I would let all of you know. Thanks for letting us know Lisa. God rest her soul... and condolences to her friends and family. Including you. Lou DoubleDay Farm - Miniature Horses No one said it was easy being a Mom, if it were any old Man could do it ! The best thing to do if you find yourself in a hole is quit digging !!!
Re: past discussions/coyotes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/22/2004 9:09:06 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This message is from: Jennie Muck [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was wondering if there is a way to access the archive? I'd like to go back and read the posts about coyotes. Or if someone can send them to me. There was an attack of some kind here in MI. Very minor injury, 2 claw marks on a horse, but these ppl on this particular list don't beleive that coyotes will attack a horse. Just need some info for them to read. Just dropped in to skim posts and this caught my eye. Coyotes (dogs of any kind) don't normally use their paws. Bite marks come from dogs, claw marks usually are some kind of cat. Do they have cougar or bobcats there? Glad to hear the injury minor. Scary. Hope they find out what it is and a way to keep it away from their horses. Lou DoubleDay Farm - Miniature Horses No one said it was easy being a Mom, if it were any old Man could do it ! The best thing to do if you find yourself in a hole is quit digging !!!
Re:running cars/ OT
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/1/2004 11:19:34 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I still think NOT letting your car idle for 30 minute while your'e in the Grocery store would help! I don't understand how people do this.??. You must have a lot of stolen cars and a lot of folks out there who never have to buy one LOLOL Does everyone just carry two sets of keys all the time?? Lou The horse doesn't care how much you know, Until he knows how much you care Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. --Will Rogers
Re: WN vaccine problems
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/22/2004 4:23:12 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You must be very careful when reading anecdotal reports like these. Birth defects and abortions can occur anytime. When you think of all the things that must happen at very specific times in fetal development it amazes me that we have as many normal babies (animal or human) as we do! Thank you STEVE That article is like 2 years old and they still remain to have any proof to back it up. I wish it could be removed from the internet totally. My vets here at our clinic were just LIVID when I told them about it. They even took information to the convention last winter to see if they could get it stopped. It has caused a lot of people to not give the shots and in turn will allow the spread of the disease and loss of a lot of horses needlessly. A horrible, painful death from what I have heard not something I would wish on anyone. Lou The horse doesn't care how much you know, Until he knows how much you care Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. --Will Rogers
Re:WNV vaccine problems
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/22/2004 4:23:12 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a letter to the editor in my Country Today paper with a website for the vaccine problems that I think may be interesting to take a look at. Go to www.lost-foals-group.4t.com Interesting yes.. facts ?? NO. Heartfelt emotions run high, but no proof in the puddin' so to speak. Veterinarians around the U.S. were really upset at this group last year and there are tons of articles that include it in their body. Please read it if you like, but also read the OTHER side too before hasty decisions. Colorado State University - News, Events Media Western Producer - Vets calm fears about vaccine - August 28, 2003 edition TheHorse.com: Your Online Guide to Equine Health Care Durango Equine Veterinary Clinic Lou The horse doesn't care how much you know, Until he knows how much you care Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. --Will Rogers
Re: Secret Santa
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/28/2003 2:24:57 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry - there was no name on the cute fjord christmas card, or label on the shipping box to give me a hint (very clever! :-) ... so no idea whom to thank! In the future this might not be such a good idea. You should always put a return address on the gift. You can use a friend's or relative's instead of your own, but don't send letters or packages without one. Too many things can happen and you'd be surprised at the stuff that sits undeliverable and unclaimed at the P.O. : ( Lou The horse doesn't care how much you know, Until he knows how much you care Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. --Will Rogers
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2003 #299
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/19/2003 8:22:27 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...and I started singing Jingle Bells...and thenI am embarassed to say, I started crying. I was singing with tears streaming down my face. Storm was trotting right along thru the snow, the peacfullness and the antique sleigh we were in... I guess I was totally consumed by the moment. Anyway it was wonderful! don't be emberrassed Sue. That is awesome.. I wish I was only so lucky. ! Lou The horse doesn't care how much you know, Until he knows how much you care Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. --Will Rogers
Re:roundpens
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/17/2003 12:45:16 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe those old-time horsebreakers used to use a big pole in the center of the round pen as a snubbing post. I love my round pen but I sure wouldn't want a post in the middle of it! Seems like it would just be a hazard to me and to the horses. I agree Monica. And no one I know around here has those center poles anymore. :) Lou The horse doesn't care how much you know, Until he knows how much you care Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. --Will Rogers
Re: ebay
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/10/2003 9:02:09 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is a Christmas Fjord Ornament on Ebay for 99c. Cal Ranch sells these ornaments, I saw them the other day. They were $10 if I recall. Lou The horse doesn't care how much you know, Until he knows how much you care Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. --Will Rogers
Fjord Heralds have been sold
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for all the response. I didn't know I had such valuables on my hands : ) Lou The horse doesn't care how much you know, Until he knows how much you care Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. --Will Rogers
Fjord Heralds available
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have back issues of the Herald available. 1997-2000 plus the 1998 and 2000 issues of Fjord Breeders Directory. I would like to find them a good home : ) Asking $10 which should be just a little more than shipping here in U.S. Might need a bit more if you live outside... email me personally thanks. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lou The horse doesn't care how much you know, Until he knows how much you care Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. --Will Rogers How do you train to be an equestrian? - practice writing $200 checks while not looking down. God makes everything except unbreakable hearts !
Re:acorns
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/06/2002 6:44:20 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This message is from: Ellen Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm sure this was asked before,but I'm asking again.With the severe drought this year,the oaks are stressed out and producing lots of acorns.The fjords are gobbling them up.Is this ok? Ellen in Va. where we desperately need rain I heard that they ARE toxic to horses. I am not positive, but sure would be checking with your local Agriculture extension and the Vetrinarian... Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A I know God won't give me more than I can handle. I just wish He didn't trust me so much.
Musical Kur
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think I remember some discussion awhile back on Musical Kur. My friend has an interest in gaining more information. Especiallly about driven kur. Her name is Annette and her email is A HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/A thanks Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A I know God won't give me more than I can handle. I just wish He didn't trust me so much.
Re: breeders
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/19/2001 10:21:02 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well if you actually file the lease agreement with me pay the fee for it then yes. Otherwise the breeder is still the mare owner at the time of That was my understanding, and the way the APHA and AQHA handle leases. Even then, the new breeder (leasee) is listed as such. i.e. Jane Doe- leasee. Lou
Re: breeder
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/19/2001 10:21:02 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I read about this complications I'll be glad to own a gelding *lol* You are too funny Anke, but so right when it comes to all that paperwork :) Lou
Re: tails
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/06/2001 6:50:57 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We had a trainer for our quarter horse who would be furious if she saw us brushing or combing the tail. She wanted the tail to be picked only - strand by strand with hands only, after a washing. Oops, I see a few folks have answered you about your Fjordies tail. Good luck growing it back. Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A I know God won't give me more than I can handle. I just wish He didn't trust me so much.
Re: tail length
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/06/2001 6:50:57 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We were looking at some pictures of our Fjord and see that the one taken last spring and the one taken recently show that the tail was about 12 inches longer in the spring. Wonder what that means, if anything??? Any ideas? Something has been chewing it off??? :) no, seriously... do you comb out his tail? You should just condition it and finger-pick it instead. Other than that I have no answers for you. Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A I know God won't give me more than I can handle. I just wish He didn't trust me so much.
Re: breeding older mare
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/31/2001 9:34:32 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: She is Holsteiner and twelve. Jean, we had success getting a 15 year old QH mare in foal, first heat cycle. I beleive if the mare is in good condition, and showing heat cycles regularly, she is probably viable for breeding. All you can do is try :) Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A I know God won't give me more than I can handle. I just wish He didn't trust me so much.
Re: email addy
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks all who replied with Becky's email addy Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A I know God won't give me more than I can handle. I just wish He didn't trust me so much.
need email address/ Jont Creek Acres
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, does anyone know Becky Vorpagels email address? She has an ad in the Fjord magazine, but the email address came back to me as undeliverable. Thanks Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A I know God won't give me more than I can handle. I just wish He didn't trust me so much.
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2001 #169
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 06/10/2001 10:17:40 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If Arabs are good for heavier riders then it would seem as if a bigger seat for me would still fit my short backed Arab? I ride two short-backed horses, an Arab and my small QH. I have two saddles and enjoy both of them. When I picked them out, I just made sure they were comfortable for me.. fit the horses back/withers and have rounded skirts, not the square ones. This takes off about 3 inches total and so does not interfere with shoulders nor hips of either of my horses :) Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A You have to count on living every single day in a way you believe will make you feel good about your life - so that if it were over tomorrow, you'd be content with yourself. --Jane Seymour
Re: UN subscribing
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 02/05/2001 1:08:31 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please take my words of warning and advice. A: Don't unsubscribe B: If you do, DON'T let anyone know Except the listmaster that you are unsubscribing. Just back away slowly and see if you can make a clean break with the least amount of damage. back to hell Misha Misha, You had me rolling on the floor... Your whole post was hilarious but truthful. We need more people like you ;) Lou Check out our website http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses
Re: t t
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] part of Carole's posting stated the following, and because this is a very opinionated and argued topic on the list... I wanted to add just a few comments. DO WHAT? Require that every stallion registered have his teeth examined for proper bite and testicles examined to verify there are two of them dropped. I show Miniature Horses, and the AMHA requires a veterinary certificate that states the mature stallion has two descended testicles before we are allowed to show that stallion in any sanctioned show. The Judges at the shows are required to check the bite of every mare and stallion in the conformation classes. IF OWNERS DON'T COMPLY? Then that stallion's foals are not registerable. they do not go so far as to do this. BUT you are not allowed to show unless you supply the veterinary statement to the show secretary. And if the horse's bite is off, you are penalized and supposedly placed differently in the show classes. Word gets around if you have a horse with a fault such as a bad bite. DO OTHER AMERICAN REGISTRIES DO THIS? No, most don't Like I said, AMHA requires the testicles statement. Both AMHR and AMHA judges check teeth in the conformation classes and there is definition of a good bite in the Rules and Regulations for the shows, and I believe also in the Breed Standards Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: Tonkanese cats?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 01/29/2001 7:37:09 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : I attempted to breed and sell Tonks but they were so cute, I kept both litters of kits.all but one which a friend bought I give, what the heck is a Tonkanese cat? sounds cool, but never heard of one. And I am glad you protect your poodles from the eagle. We have Turkey Vultures here and I sometimes wonder about my Min Pins out in the yard.. but I think they are too fast and smart for the buzzards. ! Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: Curt's post
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] #3 - This is not a licensing to breed plan. No horses are going to be prohibited from breeding. So why do it at all? #4 - Requiring that this information be on file at NFHR will be a SERVICE TO BREEDERS BUYERS. -- While it won't prevent anyone from breeding parrot mouthed horses, it will discourage the practice. Curt, I think #4 answered your questioning #3? Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: Solo Horses
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 01/26/2001 6:10:09 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However when a friend brought her lone fjord over for a lesson those two looked at each other with great curiosity. It was like they saw each other in a mirror. They would crane their necks to follow each other. That is just the sweetest thing. Funny how most animals know one of their own kind. Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: Pygmy's???
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 01/26/2001 9:31:17 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: seems these little guys aren't minis, but PYGMY HORSES, standing about two feet tall at the shoulder. Sorry for the blooper,... didn't realize there was anything smaller than the minis. Never heard of a Pygmy LOLOL These have to be tiny miniatures. Probably dwarves, although I have not went and looked at them to see. If so, I feel somewhat sorry for the owners, as dwarves are prone to many health problems and their lifespan is generally a short 5-10 years..:( I feel sorry for these guys as they are still horses and crave the outdoors and other horses, they ARE horses and are a herd animal. Just so this is Fjord related... How many of you own just ONE Fjord with no other horses? Do they seem to be happy, or do you think they are lonely. Do you keep them stalled or in a field where they can see other horses? Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2001 #30
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 01/26/2001 9:31:17 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder if they have all the rights as seeing eye dogs? How would you keep them from snatching goodies in the fresh veggie dept. at the grocery store? LOLOLOL, probably too short to reach heheh BTW, I DO own a Fjord... I love her to death, but she is out on lease right now and in foal. I had wanted a Fjord for years, and despite hubby's objections I bought her 4 years ago. :) She is nice to ride, a little spunky when it comes to driving... but a wonderful mother. Cannot wait for her to foal this summer. Someday I plan to have more of these beautiful horses. Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: teeth (more)
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 01/25/2001 5:35:14 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They certainly do have an impact. Everyone worries about the stallions teeth. If your mare has a serious over/under bite would you breed her anyway? Absolutely NOT. nor if she had any other hereditary fault or unsoundness. Overbites and underbites are a serious fault and not to be taken lightly in any breed of horse. Our Paints and QH broodmares all have to be nice, and we will not breed our stallion to any mare that has a defect that we know of or see, no matter what stud fee we might be losing because of that. Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: Teeth
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 01/25/2001 5:35:14 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: with the standard being that the front surface of the teeth meet, within some tolerance. She says she sees all too many who meet that standard---but only because the front surfaces of some of the animal's incisors have been dressed back! I raise and show Miniatures and have for 10 years now. Yes the bites on mature stallions and mares are checked in Halter classes. Geldings are left alone. The description states they can be off by up to 1/2 tooth. And don't you think a GOOD judge can tell if a horse's teeth have been dressed back??? certainly they can !Those who get away with it with one judge will get caught by another later on and penalized in the placings. Miniatures have full-sized horse teeth in their little mouths... and sometimes a few have to be pulled to make room for the rest. This is not altering their bites, but making them comfortable. If their jaws and gums are lined up right, you can see it. Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2001 #21
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 01/21/2001 9:27:33 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But is sure does seem like we have a whole lot of stallions out there not earning their keep as breeding animals. I do get a LOT of breeding reports with No mare bred this year on them. Mike, isnt that sad... poor horses. They must live a pretty frustrated life. I am gelding my Miniature stallion because we are down to breeding only one or two mares a year and I feel that is not worth putting the poor guy through near solitary- confinement the rest of the year. He will be much happier out running with the rest of them in the field. BTW, he is 9 years old and has sired 15 wonderful foals for us in the past... so it has nothing to do with his ability to sire NICE foals. Just a slowing in the market and our breeding program. JMHO, Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: Driving...Lisa
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hes comming HOME to Utah on Jan. 1, and we are going to hitch the pair and go play under blue skys, cool clear temps. and head towards Zion and Kolab Mountians to see some Bald Eagles nesting there. Miss me ?; ) Lisa Lisa, that sounds just wonderful. Cannot wait to come and visit someday so YOU can take ME places like that. Enjoy Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: Losing Burt
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/26/2000 4:48:04 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One thing you should do, for yourself and for your future horses, is to have your vet necropsy him to determine what the problem was. You should maybe also look back into the archives on this list to see all That is awful you lost Burt. My heart goes out to you. A necropsy would be a MUST in this situation for me. That came on awful hard and fast to be colic, and some of the symptoms just do NOT fit. Please know my thoughts and prayers are with you, and maybe knowing what caused Burt's death will ease the pain somewhat. I am POSITIVE there was nothing you did wrong. Luwana Day _ The simple way to read all your emails at ThatWeb http://www.thatweb.com
RE: manes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/18/2000 7:16:52 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any suggestions? I think it would be hard to thin it, and I really detest the idea of shaving it for the winter, because everyone who ever sees Jon is always intrigued by his mane. He looks so cute, i couldn't trim it. So, any ideas? Thanks! Katy and Jon The best thing to do would be to shave it off this winter. If left alone... after a couple of years, it possibly will weaken his crest and break it over. If it is growing as fast as you say, it will most certainly be back before you know it !!! Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: auctions
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/16/2000 4:54:25 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: from: Donna Tauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello List , Is anyone aware of any horse drawn vehicle auctions occurring in the western US ( WY , MT , OR , WA , ID ) any time soon . I might like to haul a carriage and harness to one . There is one being held in Wyoming over Thanksgiving weekend. It is in Rock Springs I believe. wish I had more information for you Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: Lease Options
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/02/2000 9:31:43 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: .. I would do it again, in a heartbeat. I know that others have heard horror stories about leasing deals, but from this end, it has been a good venture. It does help to be friends first.but no worries here. Lou ? Lisa Pedersen * Cedar City The only thing different I would do normally.. is I require the Leasee to purchase the insurance on the mare. Especially if I am not charging an actual leasing fee . I do think I mentioned that in my last post. If we do charge a fee it is generally 1/3 the value of the horse being leased. I prefer to do it the way Lisa and I have been. Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: leasing mare
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone have any thoughts, opinions, experience with leasing or having leased out a mare. Cost, medical, potential hazards, foaling out, etc, etc... Patty, we have leased quite a few mares out over the years. First thing, sit down and figure out a written contract, this is a must-have.what we have done in the past is to have the leasee purchase insurance on an agreed value for the horse... with myself (lessor) as the beneficiary. Also they are responsible for any and all vet costs, farrier, general upkeep of the horse. If they lease the mare for breeding only, we state that in the contract.. if they lease to use the horse for riding or show, we state that as well, along with any limitations. Each and every lease varies from horse to horse and the situation. I hope I have at least helped somewhat. Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: National Show
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/30/2000 2:32:13 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Myself I would prefer to see this National show open to any pure bred registered Fjord. I don't think it should be limited to one registry or another. Ever Fjord should be welcome. I think that would do more to bringing the groups together than anything could. I agree Mike. It also would offer MORE for the public to see and enjoy. And after all, that is what promoting horses (any breed) is all about. NEW BLOOD Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: Parrot mouth
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/30/2000 2:32:13 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I understand the disappointment in finding this flaw. If it's just developing your neighbor may want to have a vet in and find out if it's a true parrot mouth or if something else is going on. Pamela for sure.. as a lot of horses retain caps as they lose baby teeth and get in permanent teeth. He could also have some bad hooks on the molars that are causing his jaw to grow unevenly. Might be as easily corrected by a good floating Good luck ! Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: Eye Opener .... Patty
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/15/2000 7:12:58 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a mountain lion jumped off the porch, with Harley in his mouth. I coulden't beleive it, I ran down the steps and ran after it, screeming and yelling. Patty, Oh My God is all I can say. You are so brave, the things we do when the adreniline is flowing and one of our pets are in need ! I have two Min-Pins ..I know exactly what their temperments are like. My worst nightmare is that they will get out of our yard and take on a bigger dog. Thank heavens Harley is safe, I will sure give my little babes extra hugs tonight. I hope the cat does not return !! Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: losing a horse
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/12/2000 6:42:01 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All I know is that we are all in shock and it is horrible to think of this sweet little horse was gone within 24 hours. She was also 4 months pregnant. Thanks for listening. Rondi Tyler. Ramona, Ca. My condolences Rondi... How awful to lose a horse. I hope the rest of yours get well soon. Let us know for sure what it was. Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: acorns
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/09/2000 9:47:55 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Considering my experience with raising pigs I believe you might get rid of the acorns but the additional management problems resulting from pigs would be more difficult than just cleaning up the acorns. How about goats? will they eat them? Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: DNA testing
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/05/2000 6:44:48 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I really doubt that they are getting it done for $17 each. Our lab costs alone are more than double that amount. Then we have to pay for the kits to be made up too. Add in some postage etc. etc and the costs add up. We do make a slight profit on the kits but it isn't much. Mike Mike, we have both Reg. Paint and Miniature Horses. We are required to DNA all of our breeding stock. The Miniature kits are costing us $45 and the Paints are about the same. So your prices are not far off... $17 is really a deal, wish I could get in on that. Who does the DNA testing? We have to send ours all to UC Davis in California both breeds. I dont know what it actually costs to have them do the work... we order the kits from the breed associations and pay them directly. Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
not Fjord related.. Pamela
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/05/2000 6:44:48 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not a breeder. Just had my dog spayed two days ago. But next time I'm in the market for a dog like her, I don't know if I'll be getting a German Shepherd or a White Shepherd Dog. Don't know what this has to do with fjords, sorry. It's early in the morning and I need some more coffee! Pamela Well Pamela, I am on your side ! I am not a breeder either, but we purchased a Reg. White German Shepherd. These are lovely dogs and ours is intelligent and loving. I dont know why anyone has a problem with the white's.. I sure don't. Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: transporters
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 06/19/2000 12:01:36 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have any experience with any other commmercial haulers that we could also recommend in addition to the aforementioned? Horse Heaven transport. They are located in Idaho. Email me and I can get you the information Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: starting young horse
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] he did great overall; did'nt freak at oncoming horse traffic, hikers etc. he just makes it so much work for me. i want to relax. it is like he has to see everything, check it out and then drift off the trail to see more. exasperating! my husband has a push button horse coming 13 year old, and she and he just cruise. Denise, there is your key. You just answered your own questions... it takes time my dear. One reason why I am not fond of starting youngsters. I just want to RELAX. You should be proud of your horse for not spooking etc. sounds like he is doing great. Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html;DoubleDay Farm - Paint Miniature Horses/A
Re: manes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 02/10/2000 5:00:37 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sarah Nagel in sunny Northern Idaho with some manes standing up tall and funny looking and other manes that are about 6 inches wide and 6 inches tall Sarah, roach them now, and by springtime they will be grown out just about right !!! Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://members.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.htm;DoubleDay Farm Miniature Paint Horses/A
Re: Breyer Horse
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 02/09/2000 5:23:10 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pam, The grey color in fjords is the same as the Grullo in quarterhorses, so that is why they're called Grullo...Probably less confusing to somebody not familiar with the breed than Grey as grey in other breeds is entirely different! When I try to explain the colors of the Fjordhorse to non Fjord people I tell them the grey would be called a grullo in other breeds. Jean in SLunny Fairbanks, alaska, a little cooler at +10 I agree with your description Jean. We raise dun and grullo Paint horses and have also got a Fjord. I would have to call a grey-dun a grullo. That explains that.. but the socks??? geez Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://members.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.htm;DoubleDay Farm Miniature Paint Horses/A
Re: Fred's new foal
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just uploaded two pictures of the new foal. Absolutely adorable. The close up photo looks like it should win some contests! Better get to entering !! Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://members.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.htm;DoubleDay Farm Miniature Paint Horses/A
Re: photo online
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MAN !! am I ever a sucker... and MIKE, YOU were so cute as a baby. Finally got to see the photo. They could not find one of me however :) Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://members.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.htm;DoubleDay Farm Miniature Paint Horses/A
Re: photo online
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 01/31/2000 8:43:05 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://209.69.229.50/FBI/default.asp?B=P=0303R=0100 Says connection refused when I try to gring it up. This is a scary thought that just anyone could get a photo of someone else. Lou Check out our website A HREF=http://members.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.htm;DoubleDay Farm Miniature Paint Horses/A
Re: fjordhorse-digest V100 #2
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 01/02/2000 11:04:47 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For those of you that have received your Winter issue of the Fjord Herald I thought I had renewed my subscription, but seen no winter issue yet. How do I find out if I have one coming or not? L.Day /Utah
Re: fjordhorse-digest V99 #248
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/1/99 3:57:54 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I found my love in my new Aussie saddle with horn. It gives me the closeness I like to the horse, but the horn for support I use an Aussie saddle with horn as well. I use a crupper and breast-collar as my Fjord has a flat back (dont most of them??? ) This really helps the saddle sit and stay where it is supposed to. Luwana Day
Re: fjordhorse-digest V99 #65
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/3/99 4:01:42 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone out there know anything about liability? Anyone ever had this happen to them before? How do you protect yourself from any passer-by who takes a fancy to go pat the pretty horses? Jan, happens all the time with our Miniatures. First make sure you post your property with no tresspassing and keep out signs. You might want to purchase extra insurance, but the signs have worked for us.Luwana Day
Re: fjordhorse-digest V99 #17
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 4/18/99 3:59:03 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The mounted police were there with a spectacular black horse that looked like a Shire but not drafty enough. (A Fjord would have looked even better. But I wouldn't lend my pony out for all the...) Could it possibly have been a Fresian?? A cross could have been possible too. Lou In Utah
Running W
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I found the following message a little disturbing, I hope it wasnt meant the way I read it. I know that there were many responses concerning the safety and/or cruelty of this method of training, and I am sure most of the folks know exactly what a Running W is. I also think that in very rare cases where the horse and/or persons are going to get hurt, as a last resort, this is truly a sure-fire way to get the horse to obey. But certainly not one that should be practiced regularly. L.Day This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joel a harman) A running W is like any other training aid - dangerous if placed in the hands of someone that doesn't know what they are doing. A running W is meant to be used on a horse that has a problem with the concept of whoa. I have used it on one fjord I owned - a 7 yr old range gelding with no training on him. He just couldn't understand what whoa meant. If you have an occasion to use it make sure you are using a cotton rope as it stretches. Awful handy to have someone helping you. Why not take the easy way out buy trained horses if you don't know what your doing. Expect to pay more for a trained horse make sure it will do what you want it to do. It may do great with the owner or trainer but YOU are the one that will use it.
Re: running W
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hear, Hear Lisa ! I agree. L. Day If anyone used a training method like that on one of my horses, or on anyone elses horse in my presence, it would be good if that trainer was the one RUNNING. FROM ME. Lisa P.
cutest pet- Tank
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I think Tank about has it wrapped up. He has 57% when I looked tonight. AND I voted... good luck.Luwana[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #301
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/5/99 3:55:04 AM Mountain Standard Time, owner-fjordhorse- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My friend always yells to the crowd, Coming through, this horse kicks!! That seems to be the only way to get through to some of these naive people that they need to give the horse some room to get through! Ha! But, wouldnt you be concerned with the impression the naive folk are getting about the horse and it's breed? I think it would be more appropriate to just yell for everyone to move to protect innocent toes from being stepped on. Just my opinion. Lou
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #287
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/22/98 3:55:21 AM Mountain Standard Time, owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also used them when we were jousting, mostly for safety reasons. Even though the audience are supposed to stan on the other side of the ropes one never knows...you might need to turn away quick to avoid somebody who trespasses. H Jousting. I would love to see a picture of that on the Fjord page... :) very interesting and fun to watch, never seen it done on a Fjord.
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #285
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/21/98 3:54:39 AM Mountain Standard Time, owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We are green because it does rain alot but there are rivers, lakes, bay and ocean for the best fishing, there is hunting..have to put up fences to keep out the deer..acreage is cheap..airports available, good stores and hospitals and schools. Ocean beaches and mountains, good theater etc. Jean Gayle Where is it that you live again, Jean?;)Lou in Utah
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #256
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Harness for sale. Have a brand new Cob size harness that I bought for my 13.2 H Fjord. Never got a vehicle and it has sat in my tack room for a year gathering dust. It is a nice sturdy harness, not a name-brand, but well made. It has a nice padded breastcollar with rein terrets on the neck strap, and the tugs buckle into the breastcollar with very sturdy buckles. Has full breeching. It is Black with brass trim. comes with three bits. $350, buyer pays shipping. reply email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Utah.
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #236
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/8/98 3:58:02 AM Mountain Standard Time, owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (a Dressage style drill team) which consists entirely of fjord horses. Our team of horses and riders will, once again, ride to choreography designed by me and will be ridden to live music performed by Michael Martin Murphy and the Rio Grande Band. WOW, Fjords, Dressage, and MMM, that is my idea of a perfect night. I could watch them all for hours...I will try to get there to see, but unlikely as traveling that time of year can be so nasty. Make sure we get all the updates and details. Can you tell us the song you have chosen or is that a secret??? Lou in Utah
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #227
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/31/98 3:59:25 AM Mountain Standard Time, owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On his back, you could make a symbolic journey into the unknown, far beyond the boundaries of reality. Odin's ghost-ravens Hugin and Munin, who symbolize thought and memory, could be your companions. It makes me think that grays have been around, and 'revered' so to speak for a long time. That MUST be why I love and want to own a gray someday... LOU
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #214
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/18/98 3:59:31 AM MDT Jackie Kennedy writes: I just wanted to tell you that I am temporaily unsubscribing from this list as I am going away to compete at the Australian Dressage Championships for Disabled Riders. I'll resubscribe when I get back. Jackie Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good Luck Jackie... from Luwana Day
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #210
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/14/98 6:15:03 AM Mountain Daylight Time, owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We would love to see you get something started in that area. You could possibly draw from Southern California too. And Utah as well !
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #199
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 98-10-05 05:58:54 EDT, you write: We now own BJORN-KNUTSON, a beautiful GREY stallion ,6 yrs. old. He was born in Calif.. a Mr. Morris has owned him for the last 4 years. We will use him next spring on 2 of our mares.He will go thru the same training the other ones are in now . Tillie, I would sure be interested in looking at grey babies if and when you get some on the ground. I know that is a long ways away... Congrats on your herd of Fjords. Luwana in Utah ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #182
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey all, been lurking a long time, but Carol's (and others') comments on promoting the breed caught my interest and I felt I needed to offer my humble opinion. I raise, train, and show Miniature Horses. I have been involved with the local Club here for 7 years, five of which I have been their Newsletter Editor and Publicity Chairperson. When I first took on the job, the club had little funding to help spread the word about the Miniature Horse and our club. So I had to become very inventive and conservative with spendings. What we have found over the years to be a very good way to show off the Miniatures at little or almost no cost... is to enter all-breed stallion parades, or exhibits at County and State Fairs... and Horse Expositions usually offer a demonstration time to get out in front of an audience and show what you can do with that particular breed of horse, and the announcer reads a written script you hand in. It can include history of the breed or just an explanation of what you are doing with the horses. Most of our horse expos give about 15 minutes per breed, and if it lasts more than one day, you get to do it each day. These usually charge a minimal fee for stall and booth space but is well worth it. I know that Idaho (I live in Utah) has one coming up in Boise in February... And the Eastern Idaho State Fair ( Blackfoot) offers this type of exposure plus many driving classes and exhibitions each Labor Day (full week) Local parades and horse shows are certainly something almost every Fjord owner can attend and show off their Fjord inexpensively. It takes a lot of individual work as well as group participation. It is absolutely a rush to go to an open show and win a Halter, Showmanship or performance class with your Fjord and always they draw attention and questions. Most local horse-related publications welcome stories and photos from ALL breeds. and some just love the more exotic, unique equines. Start making some phone calls and asking around. I send in articles to two or three papers every couple of months , giving them our upcoming schedule of events, results of shows etc, and cute photos to go with if just in case they have room. Just some ideas Luwana Day [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #98
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] we ultrasound all of our mares at 16-18 days here. That way we know what is going on with their bodies, pregnant? building a follicle? etc. saves a lot of time and money in the long run. We do have a followup Ultrasound done a month or so later. Fjords too small to preg check that is odd, we have done some of our Miniature horses ( our vet has small hands and is very gentle) Luwana in Utah
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #90
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I ride my Fjord in three different saddles... an english el-cheapo, my western pleasure saddle and an australian stock saddle. She seems to do alright with all three of them. I use thick pads, and have neoprene cinches on all but the english saddle. I have not been on many all-day rides, but she has not given me reason to think that any of them cause her discomfort. She is not real flat in the back, but does lack withers if comparing to my Paint horses. I think the fact that all of my saddles were used and broken-in helped. I am a novice when it comes to the Fjords and own only the one mare, so this is just my opinion. Luwana DoubleDay Farm Utah, USA
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #52
This message is from: DBLDAYFARM [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have been on the list for quite some time, but just reading along and enjoying. I do have a question on the Fjords and breeding. I have heard that they tend to cycle and breed later in the spring/early summer than other breeds of horses. Have you all found that to be true with the majority? We breed our Paints average February through May, and my Fjord seems to start cycling not until April or May. ? I live in Utah, USA. Luwana Day
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #44
This message is from: DBLDAYFARM [EMAIL PROTECTED] a big welcome to Lori Albrough...nice to meet you... I also have a daughter of Gjest. small world. I live in Utah, USA. My mare Johanna is a nine year old and I have owned her a little over one year. Have not had much time to do a lot with her, but pans are to drive her as she has already been trained, for now I just love her and ride when I can. Luwana Day
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #28
This message is from: DBLDAYFARM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jackie, welcome to the group. I am new also and just hope to learn more about the Fjords from others. I do own one mare, Johanna. It sounds like you have got the Fjord-bug too and have been taken by their gentleness and eagerness to please. Good luck to you in future competitions and tell us all about them ! Luwana DBLDAYFARM Utah, U.S.A.
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #25
This message is from: DBLDAYFARM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all... I too am interested in the off-color Fjords. The grey being my favorite ! I have only seen a couple in photographs, but I think they are just lovely . Would like to own one someday, hear they are rare? I use a chain on my Fjord mare too just as a safety measure. I am small and she is VERY strong, and knows it. I feel more in control this way, whether I have to use it or not is her decision ! Luwana
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #23
This message is from: DBLDAYFARM [EMAIL PROTECTED] interesting subjects on here. Especially the books. I am glad to meet you all and I sure am going to enjoy reading your opinions and ideas. Luwana DBLDAYFARM
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #22
This message is from: DBLDAYFARM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I am a new subscriber to this list. Just wanted to say Hello and introduce myself. I am Luwana Day. I live in Utah. I have one Fjord mare at this time, Her name is Johanna, she is a Gjest daughter. I have had her a little over a year. I would like a foal or two from her and then just enjoy riding (and hopefully driving someday) her. I also raise Paint and Miniature Horses and have an average of 30 here at all times. Right now expecting 7 foals. Nice to meet you all. Luwana DBLDAYFARM
