Christmas fjords for sale
This message is from: Lauren Sellars Snowy Mtn Fjords Christmas Sale Snowy's Roxsie three year old gray mare. Med / Drafty type approx 14 hh . Sweet personality ready to start in saddle /or harness. 2,500 Snowy's Orion three year old grey gelding Med / Drafty type approx 14 hh Excellent match to Roxsie . ready to start in saddle &/or harness 2,500 Snowy's Aztec brown dun three year old gelding had his first month in saddle lovely disposition a really nice colt. 2,500 Snowy's Kovu 15 hh 4 year old brown dun gelding just started in saddle very smooth . 2,000 * Telemark Odin a great big gray gelding 8 years of age , was used as a stallion, many mountain miles on this guy. love this boy Experience rider appreciated 3,000 Snowy's Aravelle a five year old , big beautiful grey mare. brood mare quality, excellent conformation & movement, started in saddle 3,000 Al-tho many of these horses have had their first month or many months to years in training. They all need a Spring type tune up or refresher coarse. Do to some back problems and more work then I can handle. I haven't been able to keep up the riding. I just ain't what she used to be,( like that old gray mare) Fjords should Not be lawn ornaments, I want these beauties to be used & loved. All horses are all NFHR registered. They are up to date on shots & worming. Lauren Sellars www.fjorhorse.net for photos sn...@nethop.net Cawston B.C. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH-L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky941
Re: roly-poly pony
This message is from: Lauren Sellars My opinion on good round bales is. Fjords and round bales should not mingle for longer then and hour in the morning and an hour at night maybe a little at noon The only big bales my herd sees is straw. This year we even got some timothy straw the herd enjoys. Straw seems to keep them happy and chewing without the weight gain. I feed quality feed along with the roughage. I think if all they get is premium quality & they need so little. We need to give them something to keep their digestive juices flowing. Plus a little roughage keeps them happier. As for the water intake it probably is reflecting the amount of dry hay your pony is eating. I wouldn't worry about the water. Founder is a painful ,sad sight. Cresty necks take alot of work to cure and a fat fjord isn't pretty or healthy. Fjords have evolved into very efficient eaters, small amounts of hay go along way. especially on a mature horse. Youngsters are different they need much better feeding then a mature fjord. I like to suppliment with seaweed or a mineral mix to ensure even the dieters are still getting the more obscure minerals they need Good luck Lauren On 12/3/2010 5:07 PM, Robyn Kevlin wrote: This message is from: Robyn Kevlin I've only had Gaven (13-yr-old mare) since August, so we haven't been through a winter together. If she were a Quarter Horse, I'd say she's seriously overweight, from standing with her head in the round bale the last 30 days, but I don't know if it's bad condition for a Fjord. She doesn't have a "rain gutter" down her spine, but she's got a culvert down her croup. : ) Is this a usual Fjord thing? If she is very overweight, I'm at a loss as to how to handle it. She'll only be ridden for a couple of hours 2-3 times a week through the winter, mostly at a walk, and there's no way to fence her off from the hay without causing the other two horses to lose access to the water. The other thing is - she drinks a LOT of water. I watched her one day this week, drinking for a solid 5 minutes, without once lifting her head. Then she picked it up, looked around, got another big gulp and walked off. Watched her do the same thing this afternoon. Is that a Fjord thing? I know each horse is an individual, but breeds have tendencies, too, right? I don't want to be an over-protective horse mom... Robyn Kevlin - Nashville Be who you are, because the people who matter don't care and the people who care don't matter. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Fat ponies
This message is from: Lauren Sellars Both leading and riding is great for fat ponies or not so fat. I pony fjordies all the time . It is good for the body & brain. Plus they absolutely love it I usually let them loose after the first bit and they just follow us. It is very entertaining. Lauren On 10/7/2010 9:30 PM, Carol Makosky wrote: This message is from: Carol Makosky Would that be while leading or riding? On 10/7/10 4:13 PM, Tonja Acker-Richards wrote: This message is from: Tonja Acker-Richards My advice for fat ponies... Trot! A lot! Tonja Acker-Richards Pond House Farm Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Abcess question
This message is from: Lauren Sellars Fjords rarely have abscess problems. The two times that it did happen here I had the vet find the exact location . Then I put a heavy layer of bentonite clay over the spot duct tape it on. Over night it was cured. We also use bentonite on wasp stings. It just sucks poison right out. Amazing and cheap stuff. You can buy it in a wine making shop. just add water . Good luck Lauren mypump...@windstream.net wrote: This message is from: Hello List. I have gotten only 1 or 2 digests in a couple weeks, so I am wondering if there is a technical problem or is everyone out riding or driving? Anyhoo, Willi has an abcess again. Same foot, left front if it matters, that had one in March. This is going on 3 weeks. We soaked and soaked in his own personal Hoofcuzzi, and poulticed with Animalintex for about 2 weeks. I did have an x ray taken after about a week, and saw the abcess and no bone chip or whatever else. One week ago tomorrow, I switched to a Magic Cushion poultice, and his lameness worsened significantly overnite. Hmmm, we thought, this is drawing out the junk. Vet came Saturday, brought his farrier friend, and they hoof tested and scraped, and determined the abcess had moved from the point of the frog, over to the side, like at about 10-11:00 so to speak, on the hoof, same place as last time. They made the soft spot bleed, but no infection came out. We repoulticed with Magic Cushion. Willi is as lame as a duck. Bad. Really. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Fjords in endurance
This message is from: Lauren Sellars Three fjords in amongst a sea of Arabs. We might look a little different . Team Ford they call us. The endurance ride at Rock Creek was to be a good hard 30 miles . Alas we took a wrong turn and added another 5 super steep miles to our ride. Our steeds were in excellent shape. We didn't realize how good a shape they are in. Passing 3 vet check in solid A's Well the final marks are up and we took 2nd, third and 4th 2nd place for Sylvia Harvey riding Snowy's Chardonnay 3rd place for the Uli Schnabl on Stormy and a happy 4th for Me, Lauren Sellars on Snowy's Zipidee. Wow imagine if we hadn't taken a wrong turn. If you condition a fjord they can really move We are all looking forward to doing another ride in Golden Ears Park Another fun thing to do with your Fjordies. Lauren www.fjordhorse.net Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Training
This message is from: Lauren Sellars I beleave the phrase you mean to say Gail is "negative removal" Or the two methods are also called "removal reinforcement" & *" reward reinforcement " Great topic going on here.and good writitng. I have recently picked up a target training :Clicker training book . Very interesting I tend to want my voice to be the click. altho a click may be more precise I am convinced that carrots make them learn much faster and try harder. Some horses don't need much of this and others really do, to perk there interest and try. Happy training to you all. Lauren Gail Russell wrote: This message is from: Gail Russell I was a little unclear in my wording. Clinton, Parelli, and most other clinicians use a release. A release is "negative reinforcement" in behavioral science. The pressure, when coupled with its removal, is the negative reinforcement. I Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Dressage Disgrace
This message is from: Lauren Sellars Please take a moment to help change the things we can . It won't take long to see why this is very important. World cup judges need to be told what is unacceptable Please take a peek at DressageDisgrace.com <http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=Hzmux&m=LkzGiAj2dE.BRz&b=MgNp1jwaiH0AdLiaXPxxSA> and support the call to ban Rollkur/Hyperflexion. the web site seems to be promoted by some awesome groups and individuals . Carolyne Resnick and the Epona group to mention a few. Lauren Snowy Mtn Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: lamness
This message is from: Lauren Sellars Try taking this horse out of the arena with some buds and have a fun. No boring ride see if this helps. That should tell you something. I know some horses absolutely dislike arena work while others love it. Good Luck Lauren Stockwell wrote: This message is from: "Stockwell" I got a question for y'all Has any one had a Fjord that was smart enough to fake being lame? Reason I ask I have a client who just bought her first Fjord Skylar and she acts lame when working the vet was out and couldn't find anything wrong with all the testing done. The horse seems fine in the pasture with all the other horses. She has great feet " feet like Iron" as the ferrier states. Both the vet and the farrier are at a loss the next step is x-ray's. Thoughts? Roberta MN Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
New you tubes and updated web site
This message is from: Lauren Sellars Hello Everyone. We have been having fun with our web site and new youtube video please check us at out at www.fjordhorse.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwQ3T597ttA Enjoy Lauren In the sunny Similkameen Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Web site update
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Just letting you know that I have finally updated our sales list photos. .fjordhorse.net We have some new photos of our stallion Telemarks Odin as well on our breeding page. what a good looker. Even more exciting is we have our first u tube up and running . It was a fun putting this together. http://www.youtube.com/snowyfjords Enjoy Lauren Sellars The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: The Fourth Fjord Gait/endurance
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We have riden a few endurance rides and the fjordies did great. just 25 miles The Arabs pass us on the up hill and we would pass em on the downhill. Such fun stuff If we didn't work weekends I would seriously take up endurance rides. The country you see and the great people involved can't be beat. My Zippidee has such a fast walk and trot most horses have to trot to keep up to his walk and canter to keep up to his long trot. He can do slow but his fast is unbelievable his legs extend out there so far. He sure shocks alot of other horse people. I beleave it is part conformation & part mind They have to have that serious want to move attitude, and excellent conformation to back it up. My absolute admiration of fjords is to have that go with such a calm sweet disposition . Have to love these guys Enjoy Lauren www.fjordhorse.net The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Other Life / Equine Experiential Learning ?
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have enjoyed hearing of all the interesting people involved in fjordies. We live a simple but hard working life of farmers. Organic cherries are on the menu this week, soon apricots peaches pears apples etc. We bring our goodies into the farmers markets in Vancouver. It is amazing how out of touch people are from their food now a days. A young teenager asked me how we make cherries, she didn't know they grew on trees. We bring lots of photos of the ranch, the horses, the fruit growing. Almost have to bring branches with fruit so they can really see it. I've been reading the Tao of Equus. totally awesome stuff. Would you class this Equine experiential learning along the same lines as what the Epona group is doing? I am very interested in learning more. These fjordies would do great as healers. They have allot to teach when we listen. Lauren Snowy Mtn Fjords The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
temperment & training.
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am so happy you are enjoying Farra. I just got home from a great ride on her Mom. Chardonnay is so beautiful too. If I only had the time to get her evaluated! Summers are so busy here the cherries are just about to start so we are enjoying the horse time. I think we road everyday this last week,and the week before, yesterday was a 6 hour ride.When we got off the mountain the wind picked up to wicked gusts and rain that felt like hail it was so hard. the harder it got the louder my daughter Sylvia would sing, the horses were perfect and we made it home exhausted with big smiles on our faces. I have been doing lots of ponying youngsters all around, the mountain, up town, wherever. I think it makes them much safer when the riding starts and even after the riding starts It is a great way to introduce them to something new. We live way out side town so for them to go to town is really new stuff . The mowers and dogs people truck trailers what a great introduction to chaos surrounded by two good steady horses. Fjords are the best part of our days.Quality family time always something to laugh about Enjoy all Lauren www.fjordhorse.net The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Two year old filly/temperament test
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Happiness reports I love them Farra, That's my baby. I am so proud. She is Snowy's Farra and raised with lots of love . She is top notch gorgeous too. Now about those Lab puppies Ooh I want one, really we d., There isn't a day Sylvia doesn't ask for a lab. Labs and Fjords are alot a like a temperament of gold. bundles of joy. Lauren www.fjordhorse.net The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Snowy Mtn. Fjords Spring 07 Sales list
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *Snowy Mtn Fjords Spring 2007 Sales List Yearlings * Our 2006 foals are beauties Two gray fillies Cimmereen & Aravel, 5000 each These two girls are shockingly gorgeous friendly and sweet. Flash is a superb athletic dressage type, brown dun colt priced at 4,000 Troy a BIG drafty type priced at 3,000 Gentle giant * Romeo * is a gray colt still holding his jewels. I am having a hard time finding any excuse to cut him. * 2005 2 year olds.Geldings ** *Indigo & Zoro a perfectly matched team of gray colts ready to start in light harness work. They are smart and very willing priced at 4,000 each Cherokee a tall brown good natured beauty, 3,000 All these boys are very well behaved, polite in halter, trailer loading etc They are fun * 2004 Fillies coming 3 year olds* Tallum & Venus. We have 2 totally lovely brown dun fillies both carry the gray gene from their sire Sven and Tallum carries it twice over including her grand sire Cosmo. Tallum is a bigger girl with a very easy going very very calm personality, started in saddle. wonderful powerful stride CALM Venus is a stunningly good looker very dark golden She is more sensitive and very intelligent mare, These fillies are priced at 5,000 each * *Coming 4 year old gelding Galileo is a beautiful brown dun colt. Tall with long legs. presently 14.2hh He is really coming along under saddle walk, trot & canter, leg yields, back ups loves water crossing creeks surefooted on steep Mtn trails Fun very friendly and dedicated. He is smart and willing, Love this guy he is so nice to work with and he loves it. priced at 5,500 *Snowy's Aurora is a 4 year old Mare* She just had a beautiful brown dun colt, April 22 earth day. We call him Meslo She is an exceptionally beautiful mare, lovely long legs nice movement very sweet friendly calm disposition. double the fun for 7,000 Mother & Son new photos coming for these two prices are subject to change as training /breeding and age increases. Give me a call or fire away any questions you have. Lauren Sellars www.fjordhorse.net please notice our new e-mail address [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone 1 250 499 -5715 * * The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Bursting at the seams to Announce
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wow Super congradulations Michele If I was in the market for a new stallion, Soren ! He was on the top of my wish list. I am glad he won't be to far away I really want to take a peek next time I'm close by. I wish you the best. One day I'll be interested in an AI. Lauren www.fjordhorse.net Michele Noonan wrote: This message is from: "Michele Noonan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OKAY OKAY. I have been waiting to Announce that we are adding to our potato chip collection (I think we have enough to consider a bag of them now) Knutsen Fjord's SOREN (OH SADIE and FLOTREN) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: horses chewing wood
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Our herd has many polar or cotton wood trees in their pen and at certain times of the year ie. early spring if we drop a tree they will debark it in no time. They don't bother with them in the summer. An old Indian herb book I have says it is a good dewornmer. Interesting craving Lauren Beth Pulsifer wrote: This message is from: "Beth Pulsifer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Has anyone else had a problem with illness from their fjords eating trees or wood Robin in Florida" We've had several different breeds of horses and they've all chewed wood at one time or another. Out in pasture they chew bark off trees... in their paddocks they chewed the fence. Sometimes it can be maddening but I guess it goes along with having horses. I now have the Fjord mare and I am finding she chews wood less than the arab or mini. She would rather back up to the fence and have a good tail or butt rub!! ( has broken a couple of boards in the process!) Our barn is 20 years old and the stalls have very few chew marks. If the horses have to be in for any length of time we throw a chunk of" poplar " in each stall and they love chewing on it. Keeps them busy! My husband cuts down a few poplar trees each year and cuts them up.. We have them stacked behind the barn. If they are in their paddocks we usually have chucks of poplar out there too. Seems to work for us and they've never been sick from it... but I do believe where there are horses there will be chewing no matter what. Beth in Maine where we've had around two feet of snow and it's cold and windy. Finally winter has arrived!!:) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw __ NOD32 2066 (20070216) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Hay choice
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Check out this web site for locating hay sales http://www.hayexchange.com/hay.htm Rose or Murph wrote: This message is from: "Rose or Murph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi List, I am in western Washington. For all of you that live in Washington, particular those located in Eastern Wa. Does anyone know of a local farm in the Ellensburg area that sells quality timothy that you can buy off the field at harvest time? As I came down I-90 last summer I saw lots of hay stored in dome buildings, but have heard that is for export, not so sure about that either, because of the heat and The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Recognizing the differences - good & bad - in Fjords.
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It sounds like an excellently educational photo. Maybe there are other photos of this nature (showing different points) that could comprise a conformational education web page ? Beaver Dam Farm wrote: This message is from: "Beaver Dam Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This morning Jaimie was taking pictures in the barn. She photographed this 9 yr. old mare's legs as she was standing in a straight stall with another mare beside her, so she got good images of both mares' front legs. -- The photo is revealing in that it clearly shows the difference between bad legs and correct legs. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fjord story & Fjord stats
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Although it is so hard to let some of our furry friends go, People that sell fjords are very lucky because they get to pass along joy & happiness.They meet the most wonderful people and somehow we still get to be a part almost like grandparents, I lust love getting happiness reports . I don't think that statistics for regular horses & owners and those of fjords are even in the same ball park. example: They say 80 % of new horse owners get out of horses in the first year. Well there is NO way that is the case with fjord people. Probably 80 % say I want another. They say that horses are very unfertile in general with a 40% chance of a healthy foal. I would love to see a study done on just how fertile fjords are. It would be defieneatly well above the average. I'd estimate at least 80% healthy foals Our herd is doing a major survival move as of late. We have a cougar whom has moved in on us. The herd at night stands in a circle all butts together heads facing out. Amazing how they keep together. Our farm is an ice field now. Maybe they feel more vulnerable now because they can't flee as easily on the ice. Hopefully this weather will change soon and the visiting cougar will move on. Enjoy your Fjordies everybody Lauren ww.fjordhorse.net Rose or Murph wrote: This message is from: "Rose or Murph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am a new Fjord person. Over the past 20 years I have had several different horses. Arabian, TB, APPY, Percheron/QH cross. I must say this breed is very curious and devoted very different from what I have experienced. I have a nice mare that I purchased from Lauren Sellers, who just plain makes me smile. She is my shadow, comes when called, whinnies at me when I go to work in the morning, whinnies when I get home from work. Comes running in to the barn each and every time she knows I am in there and no, it is not always breakfast or dinner time. When I think of Farra, it makes me smile and I wonder what she will do next. Rosemary The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: breeding woes
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well we actually lost our first stallion Cruizer to a kick from a mare. Field breeding /never again. My friend that has been breeding race horses has lost three stallions over the years. They were all being hand bred. Breeding is dangerous. For all concerned including humans. When I first started breeding I thought that stud fees were way to high. Now that I have done it for over a dozen years, I think it is worth every penny they ask. Ah sometimes we get lucky and it is just as easy as a walk in the park and other times mares are kicking stallions get goofy. one slip up and the people in charge are in a very dangerous situation. So if you don't have many mares to breed be thankful for the great selection of superb stallions available. Myself I am allot quicker to cut a colt, a great stallion makes an even greater gelding. Odin is minding his manners I think he knows what I have in mind otherwise. I am always fascinated in stallion behavior, they can be so mellow and so full of themselves when the smell is in the air. Even with a stallion I really like. I consider breeding to the many great stallions out there. Potatoe chips hum. Raise your hand if your a horseaholic or fjordaholic Lauren www.fjordhorse.net . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/25/2007 7:17:33 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I will never again, allow one of my mares to be field bred. We lost a beautiful mare in a breeding accident. Thats very sad Fred. I believe that Lauren Sellers also lost her beautiful grey stallion to a pasture kick. Lisa The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw __ NOD32 1963 (20070108) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: breaking the fjord to ride
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Good morning Rose I usually start light riding the winter just before they turn 3. By the time they are 3 they ar egetting in condition. You can start saddling and working them undersaddle earlier. You can ground drive now, I hope you are just loving her. Are you playiung Parelli games with her. You both would love em. Lauren Rose or Murph wrote: This message is from: "Rose or Murph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What is the best age to swing a leg over for the first time? I have heard 3, and have heard 4. Rosemary The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
training / parelli
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> After thinking about it for years I finally bought the Parelli programs The price was always what held me back but. There is a sale on for the month of Jan if you buy the level 1 you get level 2 for free. I should have bought this program years ago. I am finding, if I don't skip what I think I know I am sure to learn something. It is a great program.They really want people to learn properly and safely. I think it is a great place for people to start or restart or just get their imagination going Creativity keeping horses and people interested and learning. I am curios How many people out there are practicing parelli. or playing the 7 games. Enjoy LAuren The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Not to distant future for fjords & all
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We rented the dvd The Inconvienent Truth a Global Warning last night . What a superb documentary . Yes this is fjord related along with every other species. If you haven't seen it please see it. talk about, act apoun it. For our children and fjords too Lauren The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: saddle fit?
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sorry that was suppose to go to another person with the most common first time fjord owners question. How to get a saddle that fits.( That send botton is to easy to hit) . Now For a true joke? here is the worst answer I ever heard. I was in a tack store just east of Spokane and the guy says. Ah any saddle in here will fit a fjord if you throw it in the driveway and run over it with your truck a few times. yuk I suppose he has seen to many overweight fjords. Lauren Jean Ernest wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I thought THIS was the Fjorhorse list! There is a web group called the fjordhorse list if you check the archives you'l find tonnes of info on saddle fitting the fjord. Jean in Frigid Fairbanks, Alaska, grumpy at -40 degrees. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw __ NOD32 1963 (20070108) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re:
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There is a web group calle dthe fjordhorse list if you check the archives you'l find tonnes of info on saddle fitting the fjord. Are your girls mature? because they will change saddle size as they mature. depending on body type. Most of my herd take a 3/4 quarter horse tree some take a full. Then I have a smaller lighter saddle for training youngsters Good Luck Newell Andrus wrote: Hello, I have recently purchased 2 fjord fillies and am having a very difficult time finding a saddle maker in the area that has ever worked with them. The big hang up is the tree. Since every one in the area is so busy I have decided to take a class and build my own saddle. Is there a “fit” you would recommend? Newell __ NOD32 1963 (20070108) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Another web update.
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I just love seeing the new web site updates out there What a creative group we are. I have completed some work on my site as well and I'd love you all to see our new stallion Telemarks Odin's first five foals 3 out of the five were grey like Daddy. Most of the foals are on my sales list. Sylvia (9) has already laid claim on Lapis's colt Arrow. She has a good eye for horse flesh. What a great breed to raise kids with. Sylvia helps imprinting to halter games to riding. After 15 years with fjords I think they were the best, most gratifying decision I ever could have made. Love those fjordies Lauren www.fjordhorse.net The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Cantering....
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Re cantering/ Some fjords find it easier to canter then others. I have never met one that couldn't canter. A conformational fault is having an overly wide chest with legs on the outside so they have to paddle to get around the chest.The bottom quote here from Bridget is a very good one, to have a straight stretch and have another horse out front cantering in control, It usually works wonders . When I start canter work in the areana I give them so much credit for the first half a circle I'll get off give them give em a carrot, a massage, they know they did someting right. Praise praise praise. Don't ask for to much in the begining ask a little more each day. Sometimes going slowly gets you there faster. Good luck and be safe Lauren As far as getting your Fjord to canter, a nice long trail works for mine. Riding with other cantering horses helps, and if all else fails, ask for it on the way home :-). Yes, the Fjords can trot faster than other horses can canter. When mine offer this, I say, yes, that's nice, but I need something else. / )_~ /L/L Brigid Wasson SF Bay Area, CA www.eponahorsemanship.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Mike's Words Horse Illus
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reporters here what they want. As do children it is said that a child will replay a negative statement 10 or more times in their head. What about the positive, Just because Mike wasn't quoted for his positive statements doesn't mean they weren't said. I think Mike May is an absolutely great guy He gives our the fjord horse his best and deserves some credit and understanding. We have all been misquoted if not, your turn is coming. So quit Bitching and Complaining & do something positive, like coming up with some quotable writing that everyone agrees on. Fjords are the most forgiving & understanding creatures I have ever met. Lets learn form them. Lauren Sellars Thank you Mike for doing your best I totally appreciate you. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
PNFPG Spring fling
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am excited that Cathy Thompson will be giving a clinic on Natural Horsemanship at the Spring Fling. There are several different styles to choose from , Parelli, Lyons, Monty I have read a little about Dennis Reid but I want to learn more. The more of these great trainers we check out the better. Way to go girl. Let the fun begin. I'd love to hear more about your study under Dennis I'll bet other would too Lauren Snowy Mtn Fjords The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Team of greys & more fjords for sale
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We have the most lovely pair of perfectly matching gray geldings for sale. I would prefer to sell them together as they are such a great team potential. So I would like to see if there is any interest out there before I pursue selling them separate. Snowy's Zoro & Snowy's Indigo, were both born in 2005. They are healthy, friendly,& very well mannered. We have been playing team games with them so they are very well used to walking and trotting side by side.They trailer load, lift feet and do all the good stuff a youngster should do. You can see them on our web site www.fjordhorse.net ( they have grown alot) my latest photos are on the www.equine.com site. We have several other fjordies for sale. For those going to the PNFPG meeting we are North of Yakima WA. just across the border. Near Osoyoos B.C . * Snowy Mtn Fjords Sales List weanlings* Our 2006 foals are bouncing beauties Two gray fillies Cimmereen & Aravel, 4,000 each. I have recently taken photos of these two beauties would you like me to send you some.? *2005 Geldings* Snowy's Indigo( Cosmo's Half bro) & Zoro a perfectly matched team of grey colts 4,000 each Cherokee a tall brown good natured beauty, 3,000 *2004 Fillies 2 year olds Tallum & Venus.* We have 2 totally lovely brown dun fillies both carry the gray gene from their sire Sven and Tallum carries it twice over including her grand sire Cosmo. These fillies are priced at 4,000 each or 7,500 for a team *2003 Fillies 3 + year olds* Snowy's Angelina is a classic fjord with a medium to drafty build beautiful markings and the sweetest disposition. 4,500 Snowy's Aurora is a big, taller light golden mare with a calm gentle disposition. Aurora was briefly started in saddle last spring, she is now bred to Odin for a 2007 foal.She is priced at 5,500 *3 + year old geldings Galileo & Silvin* Silvin is growing into a handsome big gray big gelding doing well started under saddle 5,000 Galileo is a lovely moving 3 year old beautiful brown dun colt. He will be a slightly more refined horse with long legs. Just started in saddle priced at 5,000 Priced in U.S funds for our American friends including coggins & international health certificate . prices are subject to change as training /breeding and age increases. Give me a call or fire away any questions you have. Lauren Sellars www.fjordhorse.net 1 250 499 -5715 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: 25th Show Results
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Much clearer now Thank you I was having a problem thinking they were scores rather then #s assigned to the horses Lauren Mike May, Registrar NFHR wrote: This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 10:58 AM 10/31/2006, you wrote: This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I appreciate the effort put into brining us the show results. Thank you. No problem. Could someone please in simple terms explain how the scoring works . I will try. For the Halter classes there were 3 judges. Each judge placed the class the way they saw it. That is what you see in the "Detail Scoring" section. So if you look at the details under saw Jim Havelhurst - you will see how Jim placed the class. You see how Brian Jensen placed it under his name & then how Karen Cabic placed it under her name. All of these placings were then entered in to the show secretary's computer program and the program does its thing & figures out which horse places which place & prints it out for her. For instance the 4 & over stallions when you look at how they were scored it doesn't make sence to me.The # don't add up. Shine the light on please Hopefully this helps out. If not ask again. Mike Lauren wish I had been there Mike May wrote: This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The results of the NFHR 25th Anniversary Horse Show have now been posted on the NFHR web site. Please go to: www.nfhr.com Click on: 25th Anniversary Horse Show Results Mike The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw __ NOD32 1.1842 (20061027) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw __ NOD32 1.1842 (20061027) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: 25th Show Results
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I appreciate the effort put into brining us the show results. Thank you. Could someone please in simple terms explain how the scoring works . For instance the 4 & over stallions when you look at how they were scored it doesn't make sence to me.The # don't add up. Shine the light on please Lauren wish I had been there Mike May wrote: This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The results of the NFHR 25th Anniversary Horse Show have now been posted on the NFHR web site. Please go to: www.nfhr.com Click on: 25th Anniversary Horse Show Results Mike The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw __ NOD32 1.1842 (20061027) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Importing horses....
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Having just gone thru some of the outrageous new tricks of importing horses. My 2 cents are Make an appointment with your U.S federal vet. HAve you coggins & intenational health certificate ready. As the horse is your own you will probably not need a broker. You will probably be charged a 60 dollar entrance fee. Now breeders in Canda Beware & be ready. It is not as easy as it used to be to export horses . It is much easier to have the new owner pick them up. As they can get by with a one time only permit. Not always possible tho So for exporting horses we now need to have a SCAC #, bar codes, paps, prearranged import papers all ready, the process takes several hundred dollars and about a week, a broker can be useful. Otherwise pay the price to a company that has it all together. You don't want to be caught unprepared Good luck Jeanne Zuker wrote: This message is from: "Jeanne Zuker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You will need the neg. coggins and the Health Cert., you have to make the border crossing from 8or 9am until about 3pm, and only Mon--Fri (make sure you don't have a holiday in there) then you will be given instructions to go to the Fed. Vet on the US side (normally the vet is just off the border crossing), however, since this is your horse and if you are doing the transporting yourself, you may not have to go to the Fed. Vet. You really cannot make an appt with the US officials, you will have to have papers (registration) on your veh and the trailer to show them at the border, normally you will have to go inside the USDA office and they will have some questions for you and some paperwork, I don't think you can get the paperwork ahead of time either. Ok, you may have to get a 'broker' to 'help' you get through this part, but like I said, if you are transporting your own horse this usually doesn't applyit depends somewhat on where you are crossing, who is on duty, what they requiring that day. I am giving the info on crossing the Blue Water Bridge in Michigan to/from Canada. Good luck and enjoy your horse! :>) Jeanne The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw __ NOD32 1.1789 (20061004) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Libby show site. Do both
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In my opinion Libby is an absolutely great show. Leave the Libby show where it is. The Nordic fest is not going to follow us to Moses lake. Great people have put years & years of blood sweat and tears into making the Libby show what it is today. All great events have room to improve. Personally I may not make it to the show every year (weekends are our bread & butter or hay & oats) I am there in spirit and one day more in flesh. I am always happy to read about Libby and see the photos and dream of going again. We are outgrowing the Libby show grounds ability to contain all the buggies in one areana or practice area. Moses Lake does have more room I strongly encourage the Moses Lake Idea of a Spring show &/or clinic combination. There is defineatly enough interest to do both. If more energy was put into promoting more events, then riping apart the one great show we have.We'd be doing a better job of promoting fjords. Our mandate is to promote the fjord horse. Let's keep that focus in mind. Let us be thankful for all our wonderful volunteers. I personally want my cake and eat it to. Libby & Moses lake. Lauren Sellars Snowy mtn fjords www.fjordhorse.net The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: News from Olivia Farm
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hats off to Dan & Solveig what a great pair of web sites. You are doing a excellent job promoting fjordies I loved the pictures. I wish I was coming next weekend to your farm and get together. I hope lots of other people do. Just a few more crazy weekends for us and I will be back in the saddle full time. Can't wait. Give Cosmo a hug. He couldn't have found a better family. Enjoy Lauren snowy Mtn fjords Olivia Farm, Inc. wrote: This message is from: "Olivia Farm, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello from Olivia Farm, I wanted to write in and let everyone know that our farm web-site, www.oliviafarm.com, is updated with our results and photos from the Libby show. We have also added our lovely grey brood-mare, MVF Kariella (by Karibu) to our sales list, if anyone is looking for a proven producer and well-trained riding horse. Olivia Farm is hosting a Fall Fjord Festival on the 30th of this month (next Saturday!) and we are inviting everyone to come and spend the day with us! We have a web-site devoted to the festival, www.fjords4sale.com, which includes directions, information, and sales list. Of course, this is not just a sales event, but a day to share our love of Fjords with each-other and with the public. You are all welcome to bring horses to ride or drive or just come, hang-out, and chat fjords! Hope you are all having a wonderful fall! Happy Fjording, Solveig Watanabe Olivia Farm (509) 258-7348 www.oliviafarm.com www.fjords4sale.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw __ NOD32 1.1768 (20060922) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Grey geldings for sale
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello All We have several grey gelding for sale at this time. I need to update our website with more photos. Excuse the delay there. We gelded our BIG big baby of a Stallion Sven. He is a very gentle guy but as many breeders know when you have several daughters around it is easier to geld Pa pa then chance any accidental breedings. We are keeping 4 of his gorgeous grey daughters to breed to our new grey stallion Telemarks Odin. Hansen's Sven Stands approx 14.2 hh and easily 1200lbs he is a drafty strong big boy can easily carry a very big man. He is a mature 7 year old grey gelding He has been used for mountain trail riding, crossing rivers, climbing steep terrain. He is very surefooted and keeps up a wonderful trot under very difficult terrain. He totally love getting out. Although we haven't yet trained him to harness . He has big powerful potential there as he is very strong. He hasn't hit our sales page yet so look him up in the breeding page. Priced at 7,500 u.s. Next I have a young team offered they are 1/2 brothers sired by Sven. Zoro & Indigo both are grey and both are exquisitely beautiful. They are 2005 foals and are well halter broke. A dream team priced at 6,000 u.s. for a pre Christmas sale. Please ask for photos they are delightful Next is Silvin He is a a 21/2 year old grey gelding ready to start in saddle and harness. He is growing into a big boy and could even match Sven in a couple of years. Silvin is priced 5,000 u.s prices include coggins and international health certificates. Of coarse we have several gorgeous goldens for sale as well Just check our web site sales page at www.fjordhorse.net (Sorry Mirage is sold & off to a great new home in the Seattle area) Please ask for updated photos on any that interest you. As many of you know young fjords change so much in 6 months or a year. It is hard to keep photos updated. My happy happy news is 8 loads of sand to enlarge my areana. I love it. What a nice present. It's better then diamonds and pearls Enjoy Lauren
Re: Which horse boots to buy?
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What would the average size of mac boots be for your fjordies. Do you think I could use a pair on several simalar sized fjords. Just wondering if I shoe 3 horses or try these boots. Also where is the best place to buy them? Riding gets more serious here in everybodies off season. we are alittle backwards. Everyone else is pulling shoes off. And I am think ing of putting them on. Thank you. Lauren Cheryl wrote: This message is from: "Cheryl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Genie, I use Old Mac's. We trail ride ..through water ,mud ,gravel you name it. They take half a second to put on ,they don't rub anywhere ,they don't fall off. I LOVE them!!! I put them on the fronts only because my mare is tender footed on the gravel. Cheryl Gioia, Owner Joy A Fine Fjords http://www.finefjords.com
Libby info
This message is from: Lauren Sellars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello List I am surprised not to find Libby show under the schedualed events on our NFHR site. I would like to get the show package please.Whom should I contact. P.S I love the letters of riding and fun.Our greatest pleasure at this time of the year is riding in the river. What a hoot.
Mare for Sale
This message is from: "Lauren Sellars" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Everyone I am posting this for a friend. Sounds like a good price thats Canadain. Please Contact Celia Simms E-mail Address(es): [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Sale: By Crest Friska. 15 y/o registered Fjord Mare. 14.1 ½ HH. 1000 lbs. Friska is a proven broodmare, and trained under harness, but she needs an experienced and sensitive owner. She has been started but not trained under saddle. She is willing and wants to please. Friska is offered for sale with a free breeding to quality Fjord stallion Anvil's Lorens. $3000 o.b.o. Phone (250) 352-2347 Friska's pedigree: SireHorby Hansen Leika Dam Mid's Heller Johnstone's Skiter Lucky S Asp Tina
Evaluations
This message is from: "Lauren Sellars" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The list has been getting hot lately some need to lighten up don't take it all so seriously. The evaluations are a great idea. BUT How many blue ribbon fjords were once reds or yellows and some of them were told they should be gelded or not bred Proper feeding, and great trainers, perserverance, money & some hob nobbing goes along way. Poof now they are blue ribbon stallions. Take it all with a grain of salt. Not every great fjord has rich enough owners to promote him / her to the best advantage. Some owners have all the time and money to do just that. Way to go ! We all benifit from the fjords that are trained and presented to the hilt. I love telling people about Ann & Wez or Gayle & Dusty. We are all winners whether it is the show ring, the mountain or our backyard. Our breed is gentle kind forgiving. lets learn from them. Go play Lauren
Very big Fjord / or part bred wanted
This message is from: "Lauren Sellars" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I had a telephone call last night from a good horse man whom wants to find a mate to his partbred fjord. His gelding is 1400lbs and 15hh. Ed Hill lives in 70mile house B.C. He would like either a gleding,a stud or mare to match up with his other horse. 250 456 7488 He is a farrier and trainer so it would be going to a good home. Have a good day Lauren
Gray Filly For Sale
This message is from: "Lauren Sellars" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello We are offering for sale a lovely gray filly 2 years old . Snowy's Delphine SM-Q-2357-M She is a beautiful dark gray. Delphine is 1/2 sister to Snowy's Cosmo. Take a look on our web site on the breeding page for last summers photo of her and e- mail me if you want to see a more recent shot. Altho She still has winter fluff. Lauren Sellars www.fjordhorse.net Cawston B.C. (Close to Oroville Wa.)
Cougars & imprinting
This message is from: "Lauren Sellars" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Janet you are right on. I am a true beleaver in the value of imprinting and doing the work with ropes on their legs. They are forever safer and so are you. I also beleave that the imprint work must be kept up. NO mattter what medical emergency they get into it is so much easier when they trust and love people. As for Cougars they are overly plentiful here. We rely on our stock protection dogs. They certainly work the night shift. We have 8 babies this year and the beaars acougars are all down low in the valley due to the fires and drought. Our stock dogs are so valueable keeping cougars away from the stock and bears out of the orchard for the most part. Some BIG bears just don't pay attention tho. Casual or fancy fjords are the greatest.
Re: Srangles
This message is from: "Lauren Sellars" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am so sorry to you Joe and your family as loosing a fjord friend is so hard. I hope you have a healthy lovely foal next spring. WE lost our beloved Cruizer a few years ago, seeing his babies brings us such joy. His last baby Simba looks more like him then any other. Strangles Several years ago with a herd of 30 fjords we got strangles . One of the biggest mistakes I made was not vacinating the entire herd immediately. Some will take months to develope the disease. Anything to lesson the severaty would be a blessing. I would suggest whole heartedly to use the internasel vacine immediatly. I have used it on horses from 3 months to pregnant mares. Anything is better then the hideous strangles and all it's side effects. Do not take the disease lightly as it can develope into perpura, or basterds strangles etc. Instantly. I had to take temperatures 3 times a day. At one point I had 10 horses on penicilian 30 days each. 5 horses here developed perpura. The first was a mare whose legs swelled instantly to close to 4 times their normal size. She was on deaths door, she couldn't even lift her head after giving penicilan etc still no change . Figuring she was going to die anyway with nothing to loose I gave her severall cc's of tea tree oil * Within 10 minuets she was up and the swelling was going down. Unfortuneatly the swelling had cut off the circulation so bad that the skin sluffed of on all 4 legs for about 10 inches up. I hosed her legs 2 hours a day for months and she healed. She still has scar tissue but she is healthy strong and about to have her first foal. All other cases of perpera were immediatly detected and cured with penicilan. Only because I checked them day and night. Checking temperatures etc. I did not leave the farm all summer. I self imposed a quarenteen on the farm. When all seemed well I even had nasel swabs taken to ensure there were no quiet carriers. Sure some horses go thru strangles with little difficulty others can die. Many horse ranches in the valley lost horses to strangles that summer. Cleaning the water tanks daily is important. Dont visit other horse farms ... The germ can be carried on your shoes etc. The first foal that showed symtoms of Strangles was on penicilan for well over a month and seemed to have a cronic infection under his ear. (forget the name of the glan ) Anyway I tried spraying the tea tree oil mixed with water up his nose in 3 days all swelling was gone. * Tea tree oil is very strong it is NOT supposed to be used internally. I have used it on many external bumps, infections etc with excellent results. Garlic may help boost their immunity as well. All our fjords love garlic we blend it up in the blender and feed it on their oats. They aquire a tast for it. Garlic breath on a big scale. Good luck to all of you with the horses that are developing strangles I truely wish you the best . Please concider vacineating. On a positive note We have had our first 2 fillies born. Snowy's Aurora & Snowy's Tango both are healthy, sweet and cute. WE have 6 more expecting mares. They are a delight. Lauren Sellars www.fjordhorse.net
Re: Swollen Legs/Serious act fast
This message is from: "Lauren Sellars" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Joe It sounds like perpura, A complication from strangles. It needs immediate action. Your vet should give you penicilin*. I had several cases of it here a few years back . Perpera is very dangerous. Some vets don't even know what it is. or at least in my area. Please feel free to call me . To much to write about. 250 499-5715. I have paper work to do so after chores I'll be back in Lauren - Original Message - From: "Joe Glick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "fjord list" Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 6:01 AM Subject: Swollen Legs > This message is from: "Joe Glick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I have an unusual problem and wondered if anyone has had this happen. Three > weeks ago my stallion "Hardy" got the strangles. It seemed to run its course > as usual. The swelling drained, he ran a fever for a few days and wasn't > eating much for about two weeks. The last few days he was eating pretty good > again. He almost seemed himself again. Then yesterday I noticed his legs were > swollen and seemed weak. He would walk on his toes in the back legs and his > front legs seemed unstable. This morning his legs seem weaker yet. Sometimes > when he steps forward he doesn't get his front feet placed correctly and falls > on his face. But he won't stay down, insists on getting up right away again. I > called the vet, but he won't be here till this afternoon. He didn't seem to > know what it was when I talked to him on the phone. > > Joe Glick > Glick Family Farm > [EMAIL PROTECTED]