Re: VM Workshop Presentations on linuxvm.org
Mark, thanks for doing that for us. In a message dated 8/3/2011 11:00:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mp...@novell.com writes: For anyone that's interested, I have uploaded almost all of the presentations given at the VM Workshop in Columbus to the linuxvm.org Presentations page. (Thanks to all the presenters who sent me copies!) http://linuxvm.org/Present/#vmw2011 will take you straight there. Mark Post
Re: VM Workshop -- Locations
If you are interested in location selection, I'd suggest contacting Bill Munson to get on next year's committee. You can see from the thread, everyone has some thoughts about it. This year's committee met the day before the event to discuss next year's options. That's one of the reasons it's important to have good representation on the committee. Several locations were considered, including some of those mentioned here. The list also included Washington State, Michigan State, Richmond, Austin, U. of RI, Chicago, Boston, SUNY Binghamton, Penn State etc.. This is how we selected OSU for 2011 and it was agreed that we should at least consider the following when selecting the next location(s): 1.) Inexpensive (relatively speaking) to get there. Not just to the airport, but from the airport to the campus. 2.) University locations only (non-commercial/corporate) to avoid/neutralize conflicts of some sort. 3.) Towards the center of the country to avoid losing attendees from the opposite coast. 4.) Airport relatively close to the campus (like less than 30 minutes if possible) 5.) Excellent Facilities at a reasonable price. Each attending committee member had 2 votes (first and second choice). U. of Kentucky, OSU, and U. of Nebraska (Omaha campus) took the top 3 votes in that order. Bill's 2012 committee is already working on these for next year. It's not always possible to get the dates, price, etc, which is the reason for the backups. BTW, Rice, UT(Austin), Michigan State, U of Arkansas, UMKC, were also on the short list. So plenty of options were on the table. I hope this helps. Len In a message dated 8/2/2011 6:11:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ric...@panix.com writes: On: Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 01:44:33PM -0500,David Boyes Wrote: } University of Wisconsin would be a good choice for next year... Strong VM ties (TCP/IP) there too. } Madison is one of my favorite places in the US, but it tends to be hard to get to cheaply (cheap is a big factor for Workshop). Current discussion has University of Kentucky as top candidate, Ohio State again, or University of Nebraska, but I'd go to Madison in a heartbeat. Nothing fixed in stone yet - we gotta go out and check it out -but UK did some awesome Workshops in the past. Those folks know how to throw a party - the BBQ at the last one was legendary. } In order not to derail this list, I'd strongly encourage anyone who's interested in VM Workshop to sign up for the VMWKSHOP mailing list (at vm.marist.edu). Better yet, volunteer! Gets you free shirt, first shot at the beer, fame... well, at least for lots of tech dudes. 8-) Please also consider furthur south so I could go. Mabe Orlando. Is there a VM using school in south Florida? -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines: Val, Red, Shasta, Zero Casey (At the bridge) Owner:Chinook-L Canines: Red Cinnar (Siberians) Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L
Re: VM Workshop -- Locations
I agree with Bill. The VM Workshops were around when SHARE and GUIDE did their thing and before WAVV was formed. It wasn't an either/or in those days, nor is it today. We brought the VM Workshop back to fill a need for VMers. Easy, inexpensive education, and an opportunity to hang out with VMers to discuss topics specifically relevant to the VM space. It seems to be working. I know a lot of us are looking forward to the next WAVV and we will all miss hanging out with Bennie. Regards, Len In a message dated 8/3/2011 11:51:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jab...@cornell.edu writes: Has the VM Workshop replaced WAVV? Jim On 8/3/2011 12:20 PM, Tom Huegel wrote: --000e0ce0d6b0d0875404a99c3e9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was not able to attend this year due to a scheduling conflict. I was wondering, if it is not a secret, about how many did manage to attend? On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Len Diegelldie...@aol.com wrote: ** If you are interested in location selection, I'd suggest contacting Bill Munson to get on next year's committee. You can see from the thread, everyone has some thoughts about it. This year's committee met the day before the event to discuss next year's options. That's one of the reasons it's important to have good representation on the committee. Several locations were considered, including some of those mentioned here. The list also included Washington State, Michigan State, Richmond, Austin, U. of RI, Chicago, Boston, SUNY Binghamton, Penn State etc.. This is how we selected OSU for 2011 and it was agreed that we should at least consider the following when selecting the next location(s): 1.) Inexpensive (relatively speaking) to get there. Not just to the airport, but from the airport to the campus. 2.) University locations only (non-commercial/corporate) to avoid/neutralize conflicts of some sort. 3.) Towards the center of the country to avoid losing attendees from the opposite coast. 4.) Airport relatively close to the campus (like less than 30 minutes if possible) 5.) Excellent Facilities at a reasonable price. Each attending committee member had 2 votes (first and second choice). U. of Kentucky, OSU, and U. of Nebraska (Omaha campus) took the top 3 votes in that order. Bill's 2012 committee is already working on these for next year. It's not always possible to get the dates, price, etc, which is the reason for the backups. BTW, Rice, UT(Austin), Michigan State, U of Arkansas, UMKC, were also on the short list. So plenty of options were on the table. I hope this helps. Len In a message dated 8/2/2011 6:11:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ric...@panix.com writes: On: Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 01:44:33PM -0500,David Boyes Wrote: } University of Wisconsin would be a good choice for next year... Strong VM ties (TCP/IP) there too. } Madison is one of my favorite places in the US, but it tends to be hard to get to cheaply (cheap is a big factor for Workshop). Current discussion has University of Kentucky as top candidate, Ohio State again, or University of Nebraska, but I'd go to Madison in a heartbeat. Nothing fixed in stone yet - we gotta go out and check it out -but UK did some awesome Workshops in the past. Those folks know how to throw a party - the BBQ at the last one was legendary. } In order not to derail this list, I'd strongly encourage anyone who's interested in VM Workshop to sign up for the VMWKSHOP mailing list (at vm.marist.edu). Better yet, volunteer! Gets you free shirt, first shot at the beer, fame... well, at least for lots of tech dudes. 8-) Please also consider furthur south so I could go. Mabe Orlando. Is there a VM using school in south Florida? -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines: Val, Red, Shasta, Zero Casey (At the bridge) Owner:Chinook-L Canines: Red Cinnar (Siberians) Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L --000e0ce0d6b0d0875404a99c3e9a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable divI was not able to attend this year due to a scheduling conflict./div divI was wondering, if it is not a secret, about how many did manage to a= ttend?=A0 /div div class=3Dgmail_quoteOn Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Len Diegelspan= dir=3Dltrlt;_LDiegel@aol.com_ (mip://10dc9568/3Dmailto:ldie...@aol.com;) gt;= /span wrote: blockquote style=3DBORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex= ; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex class=3Dgmail_quote div style=3DFONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #00; FONT-SIZE: 10pt lor=3D#00 size=3D2 face=3DArial div=A0/div divIf you are interested in location selection, I#39;d suggest contactin= g Bill Munson to get on next
VM Workshop Grid
The workshop grid is full and can be found on the _www.vmworkshop.org_ (http://www.vmworkshop.org) site. We've been asked about walk-ins for those of you that haven't been able to register prior to the event. We can handle walk-ins. For those of you that might be interested in helping with next year's workshop, the committee will be meeting at the OSU Union on Wednesday (27th) at 10:30. Everyone is welcome. Regards, Len
VM Workshop - Next Week
This is the last week to sign up for the workshop. FYI, several new Linux sessions were added to the grid since our last note. SUSE was also added as a sponsor. _www.vmworkshop.org_ (http://www.vmworkshop.org) See you next week.
VM Workshop Website - Discussions
I discovered yesterday that the old VM Workshop listserv still exists. Please use the following for general workshop discussions.I'll work with Bill to get the message out to others. This will hopefully end the other thread. Thanks. Len send a listserver subscription request to: _LISTSERV@VM.MARIST.EDU_ (mailto:lists...@vm.marist.edu) That e-mail should contain the text: SUBSCRIBE VMWKSHOP firstname lastname The listserver will respond with a request to respond/confirm the subscription, after which you will receive any further posts to the VMWKSHOP just like those on the IBMVM listserver. It can’t hurt after confirming that subscription to send another command to: _LISTSERV@VM.MARIST.EDU_ (mailto:lists...@vm.marist.edu) That e-mail should contain the text: SET VMWKSHOP NOACK REPRO FULLHDR CONCEAL That command sets your VMSKSHOP subscription to: MAIL You are sent individual postings as they are received FULLHDR Full (normal) mail headers REPRO You receive a copy of your own postings CONCEAL Your subscription is concealed from non-privileged users; note that posting to the list will reveal your presence NOACK No acknowledgement of successfully processed postings In a message dated 6/28/2011 11:30:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, email...@stny.rr.com writes: Scott, I, too, agree a website would be a useful place for such discussions. Is constructing such a site something you could volunteer to do? Mongo - Original Message - From: _Mike Walter_ (mailto:mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com) To: _ib...@listserv.uark.EDU_ (mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU) Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North South University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels Scott, I can’t speak for the unpaid volunteer organizers of the VM Workshop, but that certainly sounds like a fair and a good idea. Mike Walter From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 2:11 PM To: _ib...@listserv.uark.EDU_ (mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU) Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North South University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels Maybe the workshop can provide a website to share such things.. I think it's fine to announce these events here -- but all the attendance, lodging, etc type details should be discussed elsewhere (IMHO). Scott Rohling On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Mike Walter _mike.walter@aonhewitt.com_ (mailto:mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com) wrote: I’m not so sure… this is regarding lodging for the VM Workshop. VM is definitely the direct point of this list. My initial report was to share what I saw in concern for those attending the workshop. My reply today was to answer the question asked about the source of that report. But I think we’re pretty much done now if that will help you any sleep better… don’t let the bed bugs bite! ;-) (Now I’m all itchy!) Mike Walter From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:_ib...@listserv.uark.EDU_ (mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU) ] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:09 PM To: _ib...@listserv.uark.EDU_ (mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU) Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North South University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels Gentlemen -- I'm sure there's a better place to discuss hotels, bed bugs, etc? Scott Rohling
Varsity Inn North South University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels
I just had a discussion with the manager at the Varsity Inn locations ($69/night). She has been there 2 years and they've had no issues as described in earlier notes. She has no idea why this came up on someone's site and would like to know the source. We will be leaving that hotel option on the site. I also had a conversation with the manager at University Plaza. They are a full service hotel with free parking and breakfast. The rate is $89/night and we will be listing this as the Conference Hotel. I hope this helps with those still in the process of deciding on rooms. Regards, Len
Re: Varsity Inn North South University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels
Thanks Mike. We're going to be using Varsity Inn North as one of the hotel options. (Rate $62/nite) According to the manager there, there have been no issues with bugs. However, Varsity Inn South did have a water bug issue and that was taken care of immediately. Somehow that got reported on the site. I think we're okay with Varsity Inn North. It's will be listed on the VM Workshop web site (_www.vmworkshop.org_ (http://www.vmworkshop.org) ) but this is the site for the hotel for those that are interested. I believe people can tell them it's for the VM Workshop to get the rate. It should be in their respective systems by tomorrow, if not sooner. Conference Hotel ($84/nite) : University Plaza - _www.universityplazaosu.com_ (http://www.universityplazaosu.com) Varsity Inn North ($62/nite) : _www.varsityinnosunorth.com_ (http://www.varsityinnosunorth.com/) I hope this helps. Regards, Len In a message dated 6/28/2011 1:18:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com writes: I’m not so sure… this is regarding lodging for the VM Workshop. VM is definitely the direct point of this list. My initial report was to share what I saw in concern for those attending the workshop. My reply today was to answer the question asked about the source of that report. But I think we’re pretty much done now if that will help you any sleep better… don’t let the bed bugs bite! ;-) (Now I’m all itchy!) Mike Walter From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:09 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North South University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels Gentlemen -- I'm sure there's a better place to discuss hotels, bed bugs, etc? Scott Rohling =
Re: Varsity Inn North South University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels
scott, i'm sure you are right. on the other hand, stranger things have been discussed on this one. :-) In a message dated 6/28/2011 1:08:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, scott.rohl...@gmail.com writes: Gentlemen -- I'm sure there's a better place to discuss hotels, bed bugs, etc? Scott Rohling
Re: Varsity Inn North South University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels
That's the correct address and University Plaza is the Conference Hotel. In a message dated 6/28/2011 2:21:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, j...@thethomasresidence.us writes: Could somebody please confirm the Union Facility's address to be 1739 N. High Street, Columbus, Ohio 43210. Do we have a common hotel that most (if not all) are going to be staying at ?. University Plaza, Varsity Inn, Blackwell Inn ??. Kind Regards Jim Thomas 617-233-4130 (mobile) 636-294-1014 (res) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:06 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North South University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels I'm the one who mentioned bed bugs on this list. That was only after seeing customer reviews reporting it on TripAdvisor, see: http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g50226-d223766-r93110651-Varsity_ Inn-Columbus_Ohio.html But the 'reported' problem is not confined to that hotel. In looking for the report pasted above, today I happened across the following. But please note that this site appears to report that there are many reputable hotels in Columbus with bed bug reports: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:96qas41VFmwJ:www.raveab le.com/oh/columbus/bed-bugs-in-hotels/l5302+varsity+inn+south+bed+bugs+colum bus+ohiocd=7hl=enct=clnkgl=ussource=www.google.com The hotel I booked has one reported bed bug incident on that site, too. It doesn't seem as if there will be any way to avoid bed bugs across the country until a better insecticide is discovered. Bed bugs are not a sign of a bad hotel, just the fact that someone brought them in from somewhere else. Without DDT (long banned for good reason) they are very, VERY difficult to eradicate. I agree that competitors and disgruntled customers have been known to lie about conditions. Take reports with a grain of salt (and a good flashlight). :-) There's no good way to know how significant the problem is, or... was. The problem may have been corrected since the first report. Life's undercertain, eat dessert first! ;-) Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Chip Davis Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 12:38 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North South University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels Sadly, it's become common practice to trash competitors in reviews on most online sites. So much so that there are companies that will (for a fee) look for them and delete them for you. (For all I know, the trashing is being done for a fee as well.) Quite the opportunistic little eco-system. I travel a lot and stay at a variety of low- to mid-tier properties, albeit usually ones affiliated with national brands. I have never seen a bedbug, much less been bitten by one. And yes, I've stayed at hostel-grade properties in NYC, Chicago, and LA. You stay where your budget will allow. I think the whole hotel bedbug infestation publicity is blown out of proportion, but I could be wrong. -Chip- On 6/28/11 16:57 Len Diegel said: I just had a discussion with the manager at the Varsity Inn locations ($69/night). She has been there 2 years and they've had no issues as described in earlier notes. She has no idea why this came up on someone's site and would like to know the source. We will be leaving that hotel option on the site. I also had a conversation with the manager at University Plaza. They are a full service hotel with free parking and breakfast. The rate is $89/night and we will be listing this as the Conference Hotel. I hope this helps with those still in the process of deciding on rooms. Regards, Len - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3731 - Release Date: 06/28/11
Re: Varsity Inn North South University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels
Scott, thanks. The info is on the website. We've tried to do nothing more here than point to it. Sorry about the other discussion, but the thread was started over here and hopefully ended. Frankly, this is the best place to get info to the VM community and we've all seen our share of more useless threads. Regards, Len In a message dated 6/28/2011 2:11:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, scott.rohl...@gmail.com writes: Maybe the workshop can provide a website to share such things.. I think it's fine to announce these events here -- but all the attendance, lodging, etc type details should be discussed elsewhere (IMHO). Scott Rohling On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Mike Walter _mike.walter@aonhewitt.com_ (mailto:mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com) wrote: I’m not so sure… this is regarding lodging for the VM Workshop. VM is definitely the direct point of this list. My initial report was to share what I saw in concern for those attending the workshop. My reply today was to answer the question asked about the source of that report. But I think we’re pretty much done now if that will help you any sleep better… don’t let the bed bugs bite! ;-) (Now I’m all itchy!) Mike Walter From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:_ib...@listserv.uark.EDU_ (mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU) ] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 1:09 PM To: _ib...@listserv.uark.EDU_ (mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU) Subject: Re: Varsity Inn North South University Plaza - VM Workshop Hotels Gentlemen -- I'm sure there's a better place to discuss hotels, bed bugs, etc? Scott Rohling
Re: Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available
Registration information is at _www.vmwowrkshop.org_ (http://www.vmwowrkshop.org) We've been posting options of hotels on the site and researching other options each week. Regards, Len In a message dated 6/27/2011 1:16:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, email...@stny.rr.com writes: Bill, may I suggest trying to get a group rate for whatever motel that you decide on? You can then encourage everyone to stay there to increase their opportunities to interact with each other. When I went to my first few workshops I stayed in motels since GM was paying for it. In those days the cheapest housing was in the dorms, but I saw no need to stay there. But I eventually realized that many of the sharper folks stayed in the dorms even though their employers would have paid for a motel. The big reason? The bull sessions that went on until early morning. So I wised up and began staying in the dorms, too. With all due respect to the sessions and to the people who speak, I found that much of the really valuable info I got was from informal discussions at meals, breaks, and evening bull sessions as much as at the sessions. BTW, I haven't seen information about where and when we register, get our name tags and polo shirts, etc, Also, I didn't see any info on when and where meals and snacks are available versus when we are on our own. Thanks, Bill. I presume the whole crew of volunteers are getting pretty frazzled as the Workshop start gets closer. My thanks and appreciation to all Kent Taylor 4XL, NY - Original Message - From: _Bill Munson_ (mailto:william.mun...@bbh.com) To: _ib...@listserv.uark.EDU_ (mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU) Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 6:57 AM Subject: Re: Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available There a $69 hotel listed. But there might be better choices. We plan to work on that Monday. Thanx munson From: Jim Thomas [j...@thethomasresidence.us] Sent: 06/24/2011 09:18 PM EST To: _ib...@listserv.uark.EDU_ (mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU) Subject: Re: Last Workshop Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available Sir, Pardon me … ‘Campus Hotel’ ??. I did not see that on the list. I’ve sent in my registration and fees already … I have not decided if I’ ll, drive, ride (motorcycle) or fly to Ohio just yet but have been looking for accommodations. From the ‘vmworkshop’ website, I see that the Blackwell is the closest but also a bit more expensive. I also found the ‘Days Inn Columbus Fairgrounds’ being the cheapest. I have not contacted either but … am now curious about the ‘Campus Hotel’ you’ve mentioned. Do any / all of these hotel’s have smoking rooms ??. Any advise and or direction from people that know the area and or are, currently involved w/VM would be appreciated. I have not touched VM since the early ESA days but now want to learn more about both, VM and z/Linux. Please acknowledge and advise. Kind Regards Jim Thomas 617-233-4130 (mobile) 636-294-1014 (res) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) major snippage?
Skinny on the VM Workshop
It's great to see the VM Workshop is connecting some folks that haven't seen or heard from each other in a while. That's how this got started. It was a handful of people kicking around the idea over a couple drinks. (how else?) The idea to re-launch came up about 12 months ago and it took about 6 months to really get things rolling. We have a committee of about 30 people. While all have contributed, it's been the efforts of a small group of people and the support of the sponsors you see listed on the web site. There will be food (including a reception), giveaways, and the use of a great facility at OSU to kick things off. The Ohio Union is a great building that includes several restaurants and a bar. It should be a fun place to do something like the workshop and every cent we take in from the sponsors and your registration fees goes into the event. As David mentioned in another note, it's the best deal around. It's not about someone making a buck off education. It's about people with a passion for VM getting together to share information about the platform and Linux. There will also be some pretty important announcements; or so I'm told. There are already a lot of new names registered for the event. People relatively new to the platform. I'd love to see as many of the old timers (geezers) show up as possible for a couple of important reasons: 1.) information exchange / skills transfer 2.) heritage and the passing along of the family history. It should be fun to not only kick around what's going on with the platform and Linux today, but to also have some fun dragging out some of the history behind it. You might also consider attending just to defend your honor when we get into some of that history. :-) Anyway, I hope you all get a chance to make it to Columbus. We all have a lot going on these days and this might be just the break you need. Len The Itinerant Preacher
Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available
There will be rooms on campus for $69. We checked on using the dorms and were pointed to these. Varsity Inn North ($69) Varsity Inn South ($69) 614-267-4646 Office In a message dated 6/23/2011 6:44:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, william.mun...@bbh.com writes: I think the last one was at Marist College - Original Message - From: Kent E. Taylor [email...@stny.rr.com] Sent: 06/23/2011 07:00 PM AST To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available Hey, Rich! How are you doing? It's great to hear from you. I'm disappointed that you won't be at the Workshop, but I understand that it would be expensive with the cost of the airfare and housing. Apparently there is no dorm housing as there has been at some Workshops. The registration fee of $100 is quite reasonable, especially because it includes the polo shirt (but not in my giant economy size!) and apparently some meals as well. A good deal, just like the old days I think I've been to all the Workshops from the first one at Waterloo through 1989's one at U of Arkansas. I recall Maine, Wichita State, and Michigan State as well as Waterloo and Arkansas. I think there might have been at least one more, but I can't think of it just now. Senior moment, doncha know Kent Mongo Taylor - Original Message - From: Rich Greenberg ric...@panix.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 5:40 PM Subject: Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available On: Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 02:05:37PM -0400,Kent E. Taylor Wrote: } May a rusty old geezer attend? I retired 19+ years ago and have not had an opportunity to use VM or a mainframe since. However, during my VM days I had the opportunity to attend most VM Workshops as well as most Share meetings and I really miss those days. Are there any VMers from the 1980's planning to attend? It would be wonderful to see you again. } } There have been so many changes to VM that I probably wouldn't recognize it anymore. I'd probably be as bumfuzzled at the Workshop sessions as I was at the first Share I attended before I had even installed VM in our shop at GM. But I am an OSU grad and I'd like to see the campus again as well. It's changed as much as VM has since my days there, including a new student union. } } So, who of you old-timers plans to attend? Hi Mongo, long time since I heard from you. I would like to come myself, but noone will pay the airfare or the tuition, and my wife can't handle our dogs without me. -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines: Val, Red, Shasta, Zero Casey (At the bridge) Owner:Chinook-L Canines: Red Cinnar (Siberians) Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L *** IMPORTANT NOTE*-- The opinions expressed in this message and/or any attachments are those of the author and not necessarily those of Brown Brothers Harriman Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates (BBH). There is no guarantee that this message is either private or confidential, and it may have been altered by unauthorized sources without your or our knowledge. Nothing in the message is capable or intended to create any legally binding obligations on either party and it is not intended to provide legal advice. BBH accepts no responsibility for loss or damage from its use, including damage from virus.
Re: VM Workshop
bill, we can check ids at the door. :-) In a message dated 6/24/2011 10:56:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time, william.mun...@bbh.com writes: a few of us from the NYC area are planning on going to the VM Workshop on our own dime and we are planning to CarPool as well. I have already registered as well - I am older than most, but younger than some of you. munson 201-418-7588 From:Mike Walter mike.wal...@aonhewitt.com To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:06/24/2011 11:49 AM Subject:Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU The 1986 VM Workshop was at U of Kentucky (the only one I attended). 1987 was at Brigham Young. Wasn’t the Asilomar workshop dedicated to REXX? BTW… Mongo’s geezer (I resemble that remark!) comment just caused me to register for the 2011 VM Workshop at Ohio State. The company won’t pay for me to attend SHARE right now, and it’s too rich for my wallet. But I can manage the drive from the Chicago suburbs and the VM Workshop expenses on my own. Now… where can I set up my tent? ;-) Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [_mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.EDU_ (mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU) ] On Behalf Of Michael Harding Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:24 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available Well my first was at Asilomar in 86 (I think) or 87. I remember Rich's being there, but not you; though I do recall you from others. -- Mike Harding z/VM System Support mhard...@us.ibm.com mike.b.hard...@kp.org mikehard...@mindless.com (925) 926-3179 (w) (925) 323-2070 (c) IM: VMBearDad (AIM), mbhcpcvt (Y!) From: Kent E. Taylor email...@stny.rr.com I think I've been to all the Workshops from the first one at Waterloo through 1989's one at U of Arkansas. I recall Maine, Wichita State, and Michigan State as well as Waterloo and Arkansas. I think there might have been at least one more, but I can't think of it just now. Senior moment, doncha know Kent Mongo Taylor
VM Workshop - Session Grid Now Available
I wanted to let everyone know that the VM Workshop Session Grid is now available on the web site: _www.vmworkshop.org_ (http://www.vmworkshop.org) . A few abstracts are still being reviewed by the session committee and they will be added once they are accepted. There are a few customer session slots open, if you are interested in presenting. We will have the conference shirts at the event. However, we can guarantee your size if you register by the end of this week. Just specify it on your registration. See you July 28th at Ohio State! Regards, Len
VM Workshop Update
We are in the process of ordering polo shirts for the VM Workshop. These will be given to attendees on the first day. They will have both the VM Workshop and OSU logos on them. To make sure everyone gets a size that's right for them, we've included shirt size on the registration form. However, you'll need to register by June 24th to guarantee you receive the one you select on the registration form. We will have shirts at the conference, but those registering by the 24th will be guaranteed the size they specified. Please go to the website and register. The session grid will be posted next week on the VM Workshop web site (_www.vmworkshop.org_ (http://www.vmworkshop.org) ). The session review committee is doing a great job and the grid is filling up fast. Regards, Len
VM Workshop Update
If you are part of the VM community or just a wanna-be VMer, you should visit the _www.vmworkshop.org_ (http://www.vmworkshop.org) web site and get registered for the upcoming VM Workshop. Several of your VM friends have been working hard to put this event together. This year's rendezvous will be at Ohio State University's Union in Columbus Ohio. For those of you new to the VM Workshops, all the funds coming into the event go towards the event ! ! We are currently pulling together topics for sessions and the interest level has been great. Register now and miss the rush ! ! That also goes for any organization wishing to sponsor the event. There are only 5 sponsorship slots left and there is only one(1) sponsorship level. Check the web site or send an email to _WorkshopVM@aol.com_ (mailto:worksho...@aol.com) .
Velocity's Performance Day Seminars
We still have space in the upcoming Performance Days. May 9thAtlanta May 10th Dallas May 12th Minneapolis May 24th Hartford Use the following link to view the seminars agenda and to register. _http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/seminar.html_ (http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/seminar.html) Regards, Len Diegel Velocity Software Inc.
Velocity Performance Day Schedule for May 2011
Velocity will be conducting 1 day Performance Seminars during May for z/VM and Linux on System z. The dates include: Atlanta - May 9th Dallas - May 10th Minneapolis - May 12th Hartford - May 24th These are free performance seminars covering z/VM Performance and Tuning best practices. We review tools to help with Linux migrations to System z and cloud enablement. These seminars help installations obtain optimal performance from z/VM and Linux on System z environments. They are based on Velocity's experience with many of IBM's z/VM - Linux customers across all industries. These seminars are appropriate for both experts and novices. Topics Include: VM and Linux Configuration Guidelines. Managing Linux under z/VM using the Velocity Performance Suite (zVPS) Chargeback Accounting and Operational Alerts Measuring distributed servers attached to z/VM including, MS, VMware, SUN, and others. Using zVPS for Performance Data Collection and Capacity Planning. Performance seminars normally begin at 9:00AM and end at 4:30PM. Atlanta will begin at 8:30AM and end at 3:00 PM. Lunch is included. To register online click on this link and select the location that you would like to attend. _http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/seminar.html_ (http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/seminar.html) Once enrolled, we will send a confirmation letter with logistics, plus a reminder at least 7 days before the seminar. Regards, Len Diegel Velocity Software Inc.
Re: Velocity Software Performance Update (V4.1) - Jersey City
Gregg, I'm not sure why you were missed, but I will look into it this morning. We are meeting at the Marriott Courtyard, at 540 Washington Blvd, Jersey City. We will start this Thursday (17th) about 8:30 and finish around 3:30. I'll post here as well to make sure we're covered. See you there. Regards, Len In a message dated 3/14/2011 10:40:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, hansolofal...@att.net writes: Hello! Apologies in advance, Len, if this is the wrong place to do this, but I remember registering for that event. I even have the printed out confirmation thing for the event. But I've not gotten a confirmation note from the service machine where all of you are for the event. According to the website those were supposed to be sent at least ten days in advance. And Dan, the same to you as well for bringing this up on list. Ideally it should not be. --- Gregg C Levine hansolofal...@att.net This signature is not the same one. Move along! Move along! -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Len Diegel Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 1:00 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] Velocity Software Performance Update (V4.1) - Jersey City Velocity Software will be conducting a seminar in Jersey City, on March 17th, for Version 4 of zVPS (formerly ESALPS). Topics and registration information can be found on the link below. Velocity Software customers should find this seminar useful. http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/v4update.html Regards, Len
System z Linux Council Meeting - San Francisco - March 14 / Updated Agenda
Bay Bunch System z Linux Council State Compensation Insurance Fund 1275 Market Street 2nd Floor, PAC Room (take the guest elevator to the cafeteria) San Francisco, CA 94102 Monday, March 14th, 2011 You’re invited to join us for our “Bay Bunch” “System z Linux Council” to be held at the State Compensation Insurance Fund in San Francisco, California, Monday, March 14th, 2011. We will begin with registration and a continental breakfast, followed by the sessions, and ending with a roundtable, lunch and planning for our next meetings. As always, the purpose of these meetings are to garner your insights and foster the sharing of information and experiences with the zVM and Linux on System z community. *** AGENDA * 8:30 AM - Arrival and Continental Breakfast 9:00 – 9:55 Overview of New Release 4.1 of Velocity’s zVPS and zPRO Tools Rich Smrcina – Senior Systems Engineer – Velocity Software 10:00 – 10:55 z196 Hardware Overview and Upgrade Experiences Kathy Amos – Systems Engineer – Mainline information Systems 11:00 – 11:55 Linux Enterprise High Availability Extension and the SUSE Linux Enterprise Mono Extension Mike Friesenegger – Technical Specialist - Novell Noon – Lunch, Roundtable discussion and planning for the next meeting. To register for this event – email Mark Banda _markb@velocitysoftware.com_ (mailto:ma...@velocitysoftware.com) Refreshments provided by Velocity Software and IBM
System z Linux Council Meeting - Phoenix - March 15 / Updated Agenda
System z Linux Council Salt River Project Information Systems Building 1600 North Priest Drive Tempe, Arizona, 85281 Tuesday, March 15th, 2011 You’re invited to join us for our continuing “System z Linux Council” to be held at the Salt River Project in Tempe, Arizona, Tuesday, March 15th, 2011. We will begin with registration and a continental breakfast, followed by the sessions, and ending with a roundtable, lunch and planning for our next meetings. As always, the purpose of these meetings is to garner your insights and foster the sharing of information and experiences within the Linux on System z community. *** AGENDA * Agenda 8:30 AM - Arrival and Continental Breakfast 9:00 – 9:55 Overview of New Release 4.1 of Velocity’s zVPS and zPRO Tools Rich Smrcina – Senior Systems Engineer – Velocity Software 10:00 – 10:55 z196 Hardware Overview and Upgrade Experiences Kathy Amos – Systems Engineer – Mainline information Systems 11:00 – 11:55 Linux Enterprise High Availability Extension and the SUSE Linux Enterprise Mono Extension Mike Friesenegger – Technical Specialist - Novell Noon – Lunch, Roundtable discussion and planning for the next meeting. To register for this event – email Mark Banda _markb@velocitysoftware.com_ (mailto:ma...@velocitysoftware.com) Refreshments provided by Velocity Software and IBM
System z Linux Council Meeting - Costa Mesa - March 16th / Updated Agenda
System z Linux Council Auto Club of Southern California Fairview Street Costa Mesa, California 92626 Wednesday, March 16th, 2011 You’re invited to join us for our continuing “System z Linux Council” to be held at the Auto Club in Costa Mesa, California, Wednesday, March 16th, 2011. We will begin with registration and a continental breakfast, followed by the sessions, and ending with a roundtable, lunch and planning for our next meetings. As always, the purpose of these meetings is to garner your insights and foster the sharing of information and experiences within the Linux on System z community. *** AGENDA * Agenda 8:30 AM - Arrival and Continental Breakfast 9:00 – 9:55 Overview of New Release 4.1 of Velocity’s zVPS and zPRO Tools Rich Smrcina – Senior Systems Engineer – Velocity Software 10:00 – 10:55 z196 Hardware Overview and Upgrade Experiences Kathy Amos – Systems Engineer – Mainline information Systems 11:00 – 11:55 Linux Enterprise High Availability Extension and the SUSE Linux Enterprise Mono Extension Mike Friesenegger – Technical Specialist - Novell Noon – Lunch, Roundtable discussion and planning for the next meeting. To register for this event – email Mark Banda _markb@velocitysoftware.com_ (mailto:ma...@velocitysoftware.com) Refreshments provided by Velocity Software and IBM
Linux on z/VM Performance Update
Velocity Software was able to reserve a larger room in Jersey City for the zVPS Version 4 Update on March 17th. We will therefore extend the session to include many of the topics covered during our Performance Day seminars. The agenda now includes: Managing Linux under z/VM with zVPS, VM and Linux Configuration Guidelines, and the Version 4 Update. The session runs from 9am until 4pm, includes lunch, and is now open to all z/VM users. Please use the following link for additional information. _http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/v4update.html_ (http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/v4update.html) Regards, Len Diegel Velocity Software Inc.
Velocity Software Performance Update (V4.1) - Jersey City
Velocity Software will be conducting a seminar in Jersey City, on March 17th, for Version 4 of zVPS (formerly ESALPS). Topics and registration information can be found on the link below. Velocity Software customers should find this seminar useful. _http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/v4update.html_ (http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/v4update.html) Regards, Len
Re: Velocity Software Performance Update (V4.1) - Jersey City
Bill, more info will be on the website link. Marriott Courtyard - 540 Washington Boulevard, Jersey City, NJ 07310 9am - 2pm Thanks. Len In a message dated 1/21/2011 12:20:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, william.mun...@bbh.com writes: Len, where in Jersey City is the Location? I have already gotten e-mails asking if it is at BBH ? thanx munson From:Len Diegel ldie...@aol.com To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date:01/21/2011 01:00 PM Subject:Velocity Software Performance Update (V4.1) - Jersey City Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Velocity Software will be conducting a seminar in Jersey City, on March 17th, for Version 4 of zVPS (formerly ESALPS). Topics and registration information can be found on the link below. Velocity Software customers should find this seminar useful. _http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/v4update.html_ (http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/v4update.html) Regards, Len *** IMPORTANT NOTE*-- The opinions expressed in this message and/or any attachments are those of the author and not necessarily those of Brown Brothers Harriman Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates (BBH). There is no guarantee that this message is either private or confidential, and it may have been altered by unauthorized sources without your or our knowledge. Nothing in the message is capable or intended to create any legally binding obligations on either party and it is not intended to provide legal advice. BBH accepts no responsibility for loss or damage from its use, including damage from virus.
Performance Day Seminars / zVM and Linux on z Education
Velocity Software is offering Performance Days in Atlanta on September 15th and in Phoenix on September 16th. Seating capacity is limited. These no-charge seminars help installations obtain optimal performance from z/VM and Linux on System z environments. For additional information about the seminar and to register, please use the following link: _http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/seminar.html_ (http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/seminar.html) Regards, Len Diegel President Velocity Software Inc.
Re: acm/vmware
Gabe, you know how much I hate getting pulled into these discussions. :-) First, I totally agree that both the zJournal and IBM's S.M. provide a lot of information and support for the mainframe. I also appreciate how difficult it is to get customers to discuss their efforts due to their own internal restrictions, which is one of the reasons that I have a lot of respect for the staff at both publications. They do a lot of good for this business (customers and vendors). However, I feel we (IBM included) could be doing some things a little better. I see very little IBM involvement or investment in selling the mainframe - z/VM story. The publications are completely separate operations non-IBM entities. Outside of conferences and other user meetings/councils, you seldom hear anything about the z/VM - Linux message.When you do see an article about Linux on System z (IBM's mainframe strategy), you must search for the line that mentions z/VM as the platform supporting Linux. For example, check the latest edition of IBM System Magazine (March/April). One article is titled zOS Storage the Omegamon Way. Conversely, in the Linux on z story, z/VM is mentioned on the bottom of the last page as almost an oh by the way. What I find unfortunate, yet consistent, is IBM's business-as-usual approach when it comes to z/VM and the often feeble (if any) attempt of connecting it with whatever is being sold as today's mainframe message. Involvement is another issue. Very few VM types are permited to attend conferences. Like Barton mentioned, I find it more than a little odd when you show up at predominantly mainframe events and find several sessions for VMWare and none for z/VM or even System z. You gotta wonder what's going on when that happens. We hear a lot these days about virtualization, dynamic infrastructure, cloud, and whatever else is being touted as this weeks razzle dazzle phrase. All too often it's from chart pushers that learned a week ago what it was and how to spell it. Outside of some very knowledgeable customers, there were fewer than 6 IBMers at the Seattle SHARE that could present virtualization-cloud-mainframe and how they all fit into IBM's strategy. Very few people have that unique understanding, history, and passion for the platform. We need more of them present at conferences like CMG. Frankly, we need more of them... period. Maybe I missed it some place, but I'd like to see more substance and less razzle dazzle. (Speaking of razzle dazzle, I'd appreciate it if you guys didn't mention any of my presentations..) Anyway, I haven't seen that direction/substance/whatever in any recent key notes or journal articles. But, it could be I need to dig further than the last paragraph of the last page. Regards, Len Diegel In a message dated 4/4/2010 1:07:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, g...@gabegold.com writes: Right. Mainframe stories (profiles, business cases, success stories, white papers, they have many names) appear in such places as z/Journal (with a technical slant), Mainframe Executive (aimed at management), IBM's Web site, IBM's Systems Magazine (Mainframe Edition), and other industry publications. For a while, I edited and wrote IBM's magazine S/390 VM and VSE Solutions Journal (subtitled Success stories for today's business). And of course, hardware/software vendors sometimes commission customer writeups highlighting their products' contributions to the (successful, long-lived, cost-effective, blah, blah, but still valid) mainframe ecosystem. But it's generally tough recruiting profile subjects, even though the process isn't burdensome or threatening. Sites can give enough detail to convincingly demonstrate (not describe or explain, there's a difference) why mainframes have been valuable to them. But proprietary/competitive/sensitive information need not be included. It's not investigative journalism and profile authors aren't 60 Minutes' Mike Wallace. The key to a good profile is simply a good story -- describing a problem solved, economies achieved, growth sustained, reliability maintained, industry leadership developed, etc. Or, simply nuts-and-bolts, bread-and-butter (insert your own cliche here...) company operation supported by mainframes. Profiles work for small/medium/large companies; they need diversity (geographic, industry, products/services, customers, etc.). There's usually an angle that works for story hooks; what matters is being willing to step up and be visible as a success story. So the next time an industry journalist calls for volunteers, step forward. So, Barton -- which of YOUR customers need profiling today? ;-) Barton opined, wisely: It doesn't matter if our mousetrap is better if nobody is out there trying to get mindshare (marketing). Preaching/grumbling to the choir doesn't change anything
z/VM and Linux on System z Performance and Tuning Education - Update
Velocity Software recently scheduled Performance Days during April in NY, Washington DC, Mountain View, and Dallas. We just added another session in Seattle for the Friday after SHARE (March 19th). We thought this might be helpful to those already in town for SHARE. Like our other sessions, seating is limited to 16 attendees. For additional information, please use the following links or contact us at 877-964-8867. Performance Days: _http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/seminar.html_ (http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/seminar.html) Performance Workshop: _http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/workshop.html_ (http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/workshop.html) Regards, Len Diegel Velocity Software Inc.
z/VM and Linux on System z Performance Tuning Education
Velocity Software has scheduled Performance Days during April in NY, Washington DC, Mountain View, and Dallas. We are also providing a 4 day Performance Workshop the week following SHARE (March 22) and waiving the fee on this program. (A savings of $995.) Seating is limited to 16 attendees for each session/location. For additional information, please use the following links or contact us at 877-964-8867. Performance Days: _http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/seminar.html_ (http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/seminar.html) Performance Workshop: _http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/workshop.html_ (http://velocitysoftware.com/seminar/workshop.html) Regards, Len Diegel Velocity Software Inc.
Re: Velocity Site
The Velocity site is back online. Despite alternate power, our DS6800 apparently took a hit this morning during a power failure. I don't have all the facts at this time, but our site is up. (I'm not sure if this drops the us to 5-9s or not...(?)) Regards, Len In a message dated 9/22/2009 3:11:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, kgold...@gmail.com writes: Schuh, Richard wrote: Is it just us or are others having trouble getting to Barton's site? Regards, Richard Schuh Not just you; I'm having trouble with that site and linuxvm.org that shares the same system. Kim Goldenberg State of NJ
my apologies
sorry guys i read, but almost never post. someone pointed out that i should still be using PROFs (OV for the newcomers... ), and i have to agree. forgive me for praising the thoughtfulness of one of my folks in front of everyone. dang just glad it wasn't one of my notes to barton... :-)we'd all be blushing. BTW i never really felt i left, but it's s nice to be back working on VM stuff Regards, Len (see those of you that can make it, at SHARE..)
Re: One Day Performance Seminar on June 8th
nice job kiddo keep it up. :-) len
Re: 10 years without an unscheduled VM system outage!
You guys are bringing back a lot of great memories.However, I'm sure that many of you can recall the days of VM/XA, when things were a little different. We can all thank the efforts of a lot of great VM development types in Endicott and formerly Kingston for cleaning up VM during that time frame and persuading management to focus on things that really matter to the customer; RAS. Many of those VMers are gone, but several are still in Endicott. They obviously have the same work ethic and hopefully are passing it along to the newcomers joining that team. What they did 20 years ago, echos today in a new century. Merry Christmas to them and the customers that helped make VM what it is today; perfect. Len Diegel **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304)
Re: Business case for restoring the PWD Flex license
David,while I was once the relationship managerbetween FSI and IBM (working for IBM), I can only guessbased on that history, what might be going on in either company. I'm sure youalready realize this isa very complex situation between two companiescoming to termswith anumber ofissuesand a multitude ofoptions.Unfortunately for all of us, the PWD programwound up in the middle. First, I am certain thatFSI would continue their support of the PWD program, if theyfelt comfortable in doing so. They have worked with IBM and the PWD resellers to provide several hundred licenses in support of that program, which seems to have been a success.Apparently, FSI now feels a degree ofrisk due to the expiration ofcertain IBM patents on 11/1along with some agreements that are dated.. (Note: This was covered in some detail on the FLEXLISTSERV..) Conversely,IBMowns the patents, approves zArch licensesfor PWD use,andsimply expects FSIto continuedeliveringthemviaPWD resellers (Cornerstone and T3) for distribution to the PWD members.It seems a simple enoughmatter to resolve andwe all hope that will happensome time soon at least by November. Isuspect thatbothIBM and FSIare working hard to resolve the issues before them. Unfortunately,we can't predict if/when they will reach an agreement.For thisreason Steve Friedman (T3) and I have been notifying partnersof the pending end date.Hopefully, IBM and FSI will reach an agreement that benefits us all.Whatever the outcome,Cornerstone intendsto continue support forour PWD customers. Regards, Len Diegel VP IBM zSeries zFrame Solutions Cornerstone Systems Inc.
Re: Business case for restoring the PWD Flex license
David,while I was once the relationship managerbetween FSI and IBM (working for IBM), I can only guessbased on that history, what might be going on in either company. I'm sure youalready realize this isa very complex situation between two companiescoming to termswith anumber ofissuesand a multitude ofoptions.Unfortunately for all of us, the PWD programwound up in the middle. First, I am certain thatFSI would continue their support of the PWD program, if theyfelt comfortable in doing so. They have worked with IBM and the PWD resellers to provide several hundred licenses in support of that program, which seems to have been a success.Apparently, FSI now feels a degree ofrisk due to the expiration ofcertain IBM patents on 11/1along with some agreements that are dated.. (Note: This was covered in some detail on the FLEXLISTSERV..) Conversely,IBMowns the patents, approves zArch licensesfor PWD use,andsimply expects FSIto continuedeliveringthemviaPWD resellers (Cornerstone and T3) for distribution to the PWD members.It seems a simple enoughmatter to resolve andwe all hope that will happensome time soon at least by November. Isuspect thatbothIBM and FSIare working hard to resolve the issues before them. Unfortunately,we can't predict that an agreement will be reached any time soon.For thisreason Steve Friedman (T3) and I have been notifying partnersof the pending end date.Hopefully, IBM and FSI will reach an agreement that benefits us all.Whatever the outcome,Cornerstone intendsto continue support forour PWD customers. Regards, Len Diegel VP IBM zSeries zFrame Solutions Cornerstone Systems Inc.
