Re: [ilugd] Wants UBUNTU CD

2008-01-18 Thread Gurpreet
On 18/01/2008, Siddharth Shekhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello,,
>
> Again i am quoting dat i am new to this community.
>
> from where I can get UBUNTU CD mailed to my hostel room in a week or so..
>
> Am am a student, So i cant affoard paid OS's..
>
> And i am againt QUIT piracy
>
> Hoping for Answer soon
>
> Thanks
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https://shipit.ubuntu.com/

it takes about 2 weeks if you request the cd
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Re: [ilugd] October Meet

2007-10-13 Thread Gurpreet
+1
from rkgit
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Re: [ilugd] [OT] Need help choosing a processor Intel or AMD

2007-10-05 Thread Gurpreet
On 05/10/2007, Sandip Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Rohit Kumar wrote:
> > But then /me just widened the scope by thinking about AMD.
> > I have no info on how good (or bad) linux runs on AMD.
> > But have read on forums that AMD is actually far ahead of intel.
> >
> > Please help me choose a good processor. :-)
> >
>
> For most of the people, the choice of the make of processors doesn't
> make any worthwhile difference(no matter how some folks would scream at
> you to believe). Go for any, suitable in your budget. Computers anyway
> have to be upgraded every 2-3 years. At the end of the day, probably the
> make and type of your power supply and cabinet, influences the life of
> your machine more than the processor itself would.
>
> My advice would be to never buy the latest and greatest(always too
> expensive to be worth it) processor. Settle down on a brand, take a look
> at the 2-3 processors at the midrange, make a call on the
> price/clock/feature balance,buy it and then worry most on getting a good
> cabinet,good power supply and power backup. The money you will save on
> the processor is better put into a good cabinet which can keep your
> processor healthy, as well as a good power supply.
>
> Most folks(like me till a short while back) have unnecessarily obsessed
> over the processor than the cabinet/power supply. e.g. look at this
> cabinet[1]. Wouldn't you like one like this which will keep your PC
> really cool(3 fans, 2 just to cool the hard disks), keep out the
> dust(with the dust filter, and remain quiet with its soundproof insides?
> You would be able to buy this with just the money you save from *not*
> buying an unnecessarily high end processor, or even a different make of
> processor.
>
> [1] http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=15136
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amd  works really fine

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[ilugd] May be OT: Query about Nokia 770 in India

2007-01-23 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
Is any one aware of availability of Linux based Nokia 770 or 800 Internet
Tablet in India?

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[ilugd] Installation of Red hat 9.0 on Dell OPltiplex GX620

2006-09-06 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
Hi,

I am trying to install RH 9.0 on Dell Optiplex GX620 box. Its not able to
find the drivers for the hard disk to make file system.

The hard disk used is ST3160828AS. Any input on this would be helpful.

Thanks and Regards,
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[ilugd] Defragmentation Issue

2006-02-24 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
hi,

The output of df -kh gives:

#df -kh
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/1/hda654G   51G 0 100% /

I beleive its a defragmentation problem.

But when I give
#defragfs -q /dev/1/hda6

It gives:
Device mounted, but not type jfs!

Please help.
Best Regards,
Gurpreet Singh

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[ilugd] Unable to view punjabi fonts in firefox

2005-10-24 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
Hi,
I am not able to view punjabi fonts on Punjabi Firefox (version
1.0.4running on Redhat
9.0)

I tried a lot in Preferences and have installed
kde3-i18n-pa-3.3.0-3.noarch.rpm and punjali-0.2-2.i386.rpm but still not
able to view them. Please help me if anyone knows the settings.

Thanks and Regards,
Gurpreet Singh
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Re: Bangalore ILUG-D Meet (Was: Re: [ilugd] hi all)

2005-02-26 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 Viksit Gaur wrote :
>Anyone else in?

Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva. Please count me in!


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Re: [ilugd] hi all

2005-02-26 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
> On Wednesday 23 February 2005 08:38 pm, Raj Shekhar wrote:
>>> BLUG seems to have dissolved
>>>the mailing list is full of people (or is it just a single
>>>entity ;-) ) flaming each other for top-posting 

I Concure and felt the same initially. BLUG-Tech may be a bit slow and 
irritating but BLUG-Prog is good and people still have some enthu left.

>>>If there is any chance that the ILUGD members
>>>stationed at Bangalore can recreate a small piece
>>>of Delhi in the barren

Thats a good idea! It won't be much difficult right?

>>>wastes of the mallu-land, I am  all for it :-)

[chuckling]



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[ilugd] Apache Using old version of python!!!

2005-01-11 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
  
  
I upgraded my python to 2.3 from 2.2 but Apache (V 2.0.4) is taking old 
libraries for processing. I also made a soft link redirecting the old files to 
new files but of no help... These error logs shows that it is still using 2.2 
:o(

[Tue Jan 11 16:18:45 2005] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] import cgi
[Tue Jan 11 16:18:45 2005] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]   File 
"/usr/lib/python2.2/cgi.py", line 38, in ?

I tried Googling but no help!!!

Please help
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[ilugd] xmms not working properly

2004-12-24 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
I am playing mp3 songs in xmmms on RH 9.0.
I have installed xmms and xmms-mp3, the status bar moves through the file and 
the visualization moves quickly but there is no sound in my speakers. I 
googled, got the problem but not the solution :o(

Please Help!


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[ilugd] Postgres on Linux Cluster!!!

2004-12-20 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
  
  
I have recently transfered a big database on my master node of a 4 node openSSI 
Cluster... The system is working fine but sometimes, I get following errors:

http://192.168.1.100/cgi-bin/search.py
   File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/pyPgSQL/PgSQL.py", line 3067, in 
execute, referer: http://192.168.1.100/cgi-bin/search.py
 self.conn.conn.query('ROLLBACK WORK'), referer: 
http://192.168.1.100/cgi-bin/search.py
 libpq.ProgrammingError: no connection to the server, referer: 
http://192.168.1.100/cgi-bin/search.py
 , referer: http://192.168.1.100/cgi-bin/search.py

This error comes while insertion of data takes place...
Is Postgres successfull on Cluster??? Will that give me performance enhancement 
in any way??? Please help...

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Re: Re: [ilugd] Changing partition size without formatting

2004-12-07 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
>If PgSQL is going to be your main application, leave /var with the
>huge disk space.  7GB for /usr is fine, since /usr doesn't grow
>significantly after installation and setup; /var, however, holds the
>databases and is likely to expand with time.

If that is the case, I shouldn't have got such an error :o(

[Error]
File "C:\installs\PYTHON23\lib\site-packages\pyPgSQL\PgSQL.py", line 3072, in 
execute
libpq.OperationalError: ERROR:  cannot extend [Table Name]: No space left on 
device.
Check free disk space.
[/Error]

And as soon as I got that, the first command I issued was:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] var]# df -kh
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda7 4.9G  301M  4.3G   7% /
/dev/hda1 4.9G   52M  4.6G   2% /boot
/dev/hda3 9.7G  178M  9.0G   2% /home
/dev/hda2  42G  532M   39G   2% /opt
none  999M 0  999M   0% /dev/shm
"/dev/hda6 5.8G  5.5G   63M  99% /usr"
/dev/hdc1  73G  543M   69G   1% /var

The installation was done as per the guidelines given by postgres documents and 
no tweak/manipulations were done.

Please suggest me if I am wrong or have done a mistake and how can I rectify 
that.

Thanks and Regards,


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[ilugd] Changing partition size without formatting

2004-12-07 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
  
Hey Guys,
I installed postgres in our linux server. I didn't see the partion size 
of /usr. It is just 7 GB and rest 73 GB is spare in /var.

How can I give a part of /var to /usr without formatting both of them?

Thanks and Regards,

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[ilugd] Linux Clusters

2004-10-17 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
  
 
Hi Guys,
   I need to process one script that needs high processing power. I was thinking 
if Linux Clusters/Distributed Computing can help me in achieving that. Any 
inputs/pointers in that will be highly appreciated...

Regards,
Garry

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Re: [ilugd] Screenshots for punjabi (pa_IN)

2004-10-06 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 Supreet Sethi wrote :
>>>Got gtk, xfce and many gtk based apps with pa_IN translation

Wonderful! Much Appreciated...

Except I was expecting a CHUHA instead of MOUSE :o)

Regards,
Garry


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Re: [ilugd] punjabi translation

2004-10-03 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
>>>On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 Supreet Sethi wrote :
>>>A project has been started to translate,
>>>linux applications to punjabi,

The fire started ages back (Nov 2003)

Even some holy Lady named: Puneet Kaur  posted on 
"Monday" the 23 Aug 2004 at 11:15:28 IST 
[POSTING]
Hi
I am new to this group and I want to offer my Punjabi translation
services for LINUX.
Can somebody suggest on this..???
Thanks
Puneet kaur
[/POSTING]

You also replied on the thread but I was wondering it got vanished with the wind soon 
:o(

>>>So, I was wondering, if under linux-delhi banner,
>>>we could start punjabi translation project,

Immidiately!

Lead the show... And the world will follow you (at least me :o)

Stay Chardi Kalan!
Regards,
Garry


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Re: [ilugd] "help for device drivers"

2004-07-09 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
>>please suggest me some other reference
>>material and links for the same if possible.

http://www.scs.ch/~frey/linux/kernelthreads.html

http://www.mulix.org/lectures/intro_to_linux_device_drivers/intro_linux_device_drivers.pdf

Check Bibliography...

HTH...

Regards,
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[ilugd] [Fwd] Nmap 3.55 Released

2004-07-07 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
  


Note: Forwarded message attached

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Subject: Nmap 3.55 Released
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[ilugd] [Forward]Nmap 3.55 Released (Ignore Previous)

2004-07-07 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
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Hello everyone,

I am just about to leave for a week in New York, including attending
HOPE 5 ( http://www.the-fifth-hope.org/hoop/ ).  Perhaps I'll see some
of you there.

Now there are (smart) people who would advise against releasing a new
stable version of Nmap just hours before my flight.  I might come back
next week to thousands of mails saying "you forgot to set read
permission on the tarball, you dolt!" or "it doesn't even compile on [some
important OS]!"

I'm gonna risk it anyway.  I'm pleased to release Nmap 3.55.  It
includes dozens of changes.  The coolest is MAC address detection and
vendor lookup.  That can be very useful for systems/network
administrators trying to track machines with dynamic IPs.  It also
augments OS detection in determining what a system is -- a system with
a Cisco ethernet card is probably a router.  Note the MAC address
field in this example:

# nmap -A -T4 wap

Starting nmap 3.55 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2004-07-07 01:38 PDT
Insufficient responses for TCP sequencing (0), OS detection may be less accurate
Interesting ports on wap.yuma.net (192.168.0.6):
(The 1659 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
PORT   STATE SERVICE VERSION
80/tcp open  httpNetGear MR-series WAP (MR814; Embedded HTTPD 1.00, 1999(c) Delta 
Networks Inc.)
MAC Address: 00:09:5B:3F:7D:5E (Netgear)
Device type: WAP
Running: Compaq embedded, Netgear embedded
OS details: WAP: Compaq iPAQ Connection Point or Netgear MR814

Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 13.750 seconds

Other changes include more service fingerprints, a number of crash
fixes, better OS detection names, portability fixes, and more.  Here
is the CHANGELOG since 3.50:

o Added MAC address printing.  If Nmap receives packet from a target
 machine which is on an Ethernet segment directly connected to the
 scanning machine, Nmap will print out the target MAC address.  Nmap
 also now contains a database (derived from the official IEEE
 version) which it uses to determine the vendor name of the target
 ethernet interface.  The Windows version of Nmap does not yet have
 this capability.  If any Windows developer types are interesting in
 adding it, you just need to implement IPisDirectlyConnected() in
 tcpip.cc and then please send me the patch.  Here are examples from
 normal and XML output (angle brackets replaced with [] for HTML
 changelog compatability):
 MAC Address: 08:00:20:8F:6B:2F (SUN Microsystems)
 [address addr="00:A0:CC:63:85:4B" vendor="Lite-on Communications" addrtype="mac" /]

o Updated the XML DTD to support the newly printed MAC addresses.
 Thanks to Thorsten Holz (thorsten.holz(a)mmweg.rwth-aachen.de) for
 sending this patch.

o Added a bunch of new and fixed service fingerprints for version
 detection.  These are from Martin MaÚok
 (martin.macok(a)underground.cz).

o Normalized many of the OS names in nmap-os-fingerprints (fixed
 capitalization, typos, etc.).  Thanks to Royce Williams
 (royce(a)alaska.net) and Ping Huang (pshuang(a)alum.mit.edu) for
 sending patches.

o Modified the mswine32/nmap_performance.reg Windows registry file to
 use an older and more compatable version.  It also now includes the
 value "StrictTimeWaitSeqCheck"=dword:0001 , as suggested by Jim
 Harrison (jmharr(a)microsoft.com).  Without that latter value, the
 TcpTimedWaitDelay value apparently isn't checked.  Windows users
 should apply the new registry changes by clicking on the .reg file.
 Or do it manually as described in README-WIN32.  This file is also
 now available in the data directory at
 http://www.insecure.org/nmap/data/nmap_performance.reg

o Applied patch from Gisle Vanem (giva(a)bgnett.no) which allows the
 Windows version of Nmap to work with WinPCAP 3.1BETA (and probably
 future releases).  The Winpcap folks apparently changed the encoding
 of adaptor names in this release.

o Fixed a ping scanning bug that would cause this error message: "nmap:
 targets.cc:196: int hostupdate (Target **, Target *, int, int, int,
 timeout_info *, timeval *, timeval *, pingtune *, tcpqueryinfo *,
 pingstyle): Assertion `pt->down_this_block > 0' failed."  Thanks to
 Beirne Konarski (beirne(a)neo.rr.com) for reporting the problem.

o If a user attempts -PO (the letter O), print an error suggesting
 that they probably mean -P0 (Zero) to disable ping scanning.

o Applied a couple patches (with minor changes) from Oliver Eikemeier
 (eikemeier(a)fillmore-labs.com) which fix an edge case relating to
 decoy scanning IP ranges that must be sent through different
 interfaces, and improves the Nmap response to certain error codes
 returned by the FreeBSD firewall system.  The patches are from
 http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/ports/security/nmap/files/ .

o Many people have reported this error: "checking for type of 6th
 argument to recvfrom()... configure: error: Cannot find type for 6th
 argument to recvfrom()".  In most cases, the cause was a missing or
 broken C++ c

Re: [ilugd] To Devendra did U call

2004-07-02 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 saurabh wrote :
>  hey devendra ,
> did you call to any one name saurabh
>recently from okhla.


What is this??? You could have written a mail offlist, you have wasted so much of 
Bandwidth and valuable time...

Must take care in future...

GSS
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[ilugd] Bill Gates brushes off threat of Linux in Asia

2004-06-30 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
  
...Asked if the increasing popularity of the Linux operating system in Asia, the 
world's fastest-growing personal computer market, posed a concern, Gates said: "In 
terms of Microsoft software, it is being used very heavily around the world and we are 
very pleased in the partnership that we formed in Asia."...


Source: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/technologynews/view/92771/1/.html

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Re: [ilugd] HTTP antivirus scanning??

2004-06-28 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
 There are many people on the list who can implement the
 whole thing for you *if* you pay them good money.

>>the problem *if* payed well then why are they here.
>>Whoever asks the questions expects guidance

Giving guidance or pointing/redirecting towards the right track is acceptabe but if 
someone expects that anyone will come physically and solve the problem and won't 
charge anything for it is a wague point...

Open Source does not mean that you don't have a right to earn your bread and butter... 
Millions of people are charging heavily for training and support and that is very much 
appropiate...

"What a load of crap.  There are plenty of companies trying to make and making money 
on open source software.

But moving on from Stallman, in particular, perhaps Eric Raymond might be a more 
presentable character - as he debated Stallman specfically on this subject. That's the 
whole point of "OPEN" and Free (as in speech).  Its a democracy and you're entitled to 
your opinion.

Open source projects, like MySQL, RedHat's distro, Gnome, KDE, QT, Lynuxworks are in 
it to make money.  So is our little shop... And then there's IBM - a company with 4 
times the anual revenue of MSFT.  You can bet they're in it for the money.  ORCL too - 
they're moving to complete support for Linux."

IMHO The statement made: "There are many people on the list who can implement the 
whole thing for you *if* you pay them good money." is 100% justified...

Regards,
GSS
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Re: [ilugd] any document or book on rtlinux

2004-06-03 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
>>>is there any book on rtlinux, 

Linux for Embedded and Real-Time Applications
by Doug Abbott

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[ilugd] Text to Speech Converter!

2004-05-25 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
  
Hey Guys,

  Any idea/link for an open source Text to Speech convertor???

Thanks and Regards,
GSS
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Re: Re: [ilugd] request to download Clusterknoppix

2004-05-14 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
>Please ignore.

I would have appreciated if you had written this in the Subject Line...

Cheers!

GSS

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Re: [ilugd] error in /var/log/messages

2004-04-29 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 Atul Kumar wrote :
>input1: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Avocent Avocent DSRIQ-USB] on usb1:4.1
>TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 202.174.144.226:25/42706 shrinks window
>3664835727:3664841567. Repaired.

Is 67.113.236.101 a known IP???

It may be a DOS attack on Kernel...

BR,
GSS
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[ilugd] Hyper-Threading speeds Linux...

2004-04-28 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
The current Linux symmetric multiprocessing (SMP) kernel at both the 2.4 and 2.5 
versions was made aware of Hyper-Threading, and performance speed-up had been observed 
in multithreaded benchmarks...

http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-htl/

http://www.2cpu.com/articles/41_1.html

BR,
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[ilugd] Linguistics Meets Linux: A Review of Morphix-NLP

2004-04-27 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
  
Zhang Le, a Chinese scientist working on NLP has decided to pack the most important 
language analysis and processing applications into a single bootable CD: Morphix-NLP. 
More than 640 MB of NLP specific software is included and there's still a lot of place 
on the CD which uses a compressed filesystem for bringing us the best of both 
worlds

The CD is based on Morphix that is based on famous Knoppix which, in turn, is based on 
Debian GNU/Linux distribution. What does that mean?...

http://ileriseviye.org/arasayfa.php?inode=morphixnlp.html

BR,
GSS
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Re: Re: [ilugd] not got my T-Shirts!!!

2004-04-19 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
  
>tell me how you got ur t-shirt
Contact the T-Shirt Man... Vivek Khurana...offline or online. You may ask him for the 
availability of the same... If you have already paid for that, you will be given 
precedence, and if not, you need to pay Rs. 175/- (Pretty decent and reasonable for a 
awesome crystal shining white Tee-Shirt with a Red Color Maharaja Tux on the pocket)...

>i want my cd rom + knopp cd and many more

Please send a request mail to ilugd-cd-request_at_lists_dot_linux-delhi_dot_org...
Any openhanded candidate willing to help my dear friend Mukesh???

R,
GSS

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[ilugd] At Last we got our T-Shirts!!!

2004-04-18 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
  
At Last we got our ILUG-D 'T'-Shirts. Thanks a ton to Vivek...

BR,
GSS
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Re: Re: [ilugd] mouse to speaker buzzing sound

2004-04-15 Thread Gurpreet Sachdeva
  

installed fedora, and it disappeared.

>Were your speakers really close to your mouse cable?  We have similar
>issues here at our office.  Whenever a cell phone within close
>proximity to a PC and speakers/headphones rings, you can hear the
>speakers buzzing/hear buzzing in your headphones.  

Nahi baba! This may not be the reason for that as it vanished as soon as the system 
was upgaraded. According to *me* it is due to some Linux Maniac 'bhoot/ghost' that was 
there to find the bugs in RH8 and couldn't find the reason of his existance in Fedora 
so ran away as soon as upgraded. I found a simillar kind of 'RH8 bhoot' in my poor PC 
wherein it caused constant flickering of monitor along with "Auto" movement of my 
sweet sweet mice pointer.

:-)
GSS
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RE: [ilugd] Gentoo

2004-04-01 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
>>>She is actually a He :-) 

Ha Ha Ha!!! The 'HE' and 'SHE' confusion...
Interesting, but can't help! It's the name only which can be blamed!

Hope the original 'MARY' (he or she) is listing to us and clear all our
doubts ;o)

BR,
GSS

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RE: [ilugd] Gentoo

2004-03-31 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
To summarize the heart of Gentoo, imagine a user sitting in front of a
Linux system. What does he or she want do to? The Gentoo philosophy is
to allow this user to do what he or she wants to do, without getting in
the way...

Portage will keep your Gentoo Linux system as "up-to-date" as you
desire. And because of this, experienced Gentoo users don't pay too much
attention to "new versions" of Gentoo Linux -- after all, the latest and
greatest version of Gentoo Linux is always available by typing an emerge
sync command. There's no need to wait several months for a "new version"
of Gentoo Linux to be released because Gentoo Linux is continually
updated and refined and these improvements are immediately made
available to you...

#Support for x86, PowerPC, UltraSparc, Alpha and MIPS processors 
#LiveCD-based installation for x86, PowerPC, UltraSparc and Alpha 
#Latest stable KDE and GNOME 
#Various optimized Linux kernels 
#Very modern GNU development environment 
#Excellent filesystem support: ReiserFS, XFS, ext3, EVMS, LVM 
#Excellent hardware support: NVIDIA, Creative Labs Live! and Audigy 
#Modular OpenGL and compiler sub-system (supports multiple co-existing
versions) 
#Clean, dependency-based system initialization scripts 
#New "hardened" Gentoo security initiative 
#6000+ packages of the latest and greatest software 
#Enhanced Portage capabilities

Great Yaar! Awesome for both --> newbie and Gurus. HATS OFF for Daniel
Robbins (Chief Architect)

How much time will it take to come into the race?

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RE: [ilugd] Re: [ilugd-announce] ILUGD Monthly Meet 28th March, 2004

2004-03-23 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

>>>after the meet, the newbies could ask questions one-to-one.

Get Ready Man!!! I am coming with a bag *fool* of questions ;)

Kiding!

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RE: [ilugd] Re: [ilugd-announce] ILUGD Monthly Meet 28th March, 2004

2004-03-23 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
>>>Dear we had a newbies meet and we will conduct it in
>>>future
Yes! Luckily I was also the part of that successful meet and fortunately
got the chance to meet you guys for the first time and I remember that
we were planning to have a similar at JIMS.

>>>i had proposed to have meet on linx securities.
Even I was dreaming about that as I really relish this cherry...
I appreciate every ones initiative in it.

>>>If the response is good we will continue this or else drop it.
Sounds Good!


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RE: [ilugd] Re: [ilugd-announce] ILUGD Monthly Meet 28th March, 2004

2004-03-22 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

>>>15 minutes is infinitely more than zero.
I concur! Even 2 mins is infinitely more than zero. :-)

>>>look, let's get the ball rolling in this direction. its a process of
>>>exploration

Very true honorable LL Ji... But can we actually manage the show in 15
mins??? I don't think so...
Let us put our feet in the shoes of a newbie, would that be justified if
someone starts speaking with you in 'Hindi/Punjabi' and suddenly starts
'French' and the tragedy is that before that, everyone was enjoying the
show but now everyone else are enjoying the show except me along with
some few newbie and we are watching each others faces :-(

Introduction to GNU/Linux and then suddenly "technojargon + flamewars +
netequitte flames + bla bla"

Will that shed *off* my nervousness or...

Won't it be a great idea if we arrange the similar newbie meet after the
great success of Dec 2003 meet so that we can give the justice to
newbie?

Comments?

BR,
GSS


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RE: [ilugd] Re: [ilugd-announce] ILUGD Monthly Meet 28th March, 2004

2004-03-22 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
>>>they are usually quite terrified
>>>and nervous with the technojargon + flamewars + netequitte flames
that
>>>they usually receive.
>>>so, every ilug-d meet must have a newbie orientation. for 15 minutes.
a
>>>welcome to the community. a special gesture of encouragement and
support
>>>on this precarious path of migration.


Geee! Do you think that 15 mins would be enough for a newbie to
understand the "technojargon + flamewars + netequitte flames" :-o
or to shed *off* their nervousness...


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RE: [ilugd] Winmodems

2004-03-12 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
>>>Is the above true?
Yes!
AFAIR, the honorable LL did mention that in his 'Gyan Vardhak Bhashan'
in the December's newbie meet...


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RE: [ilugd] [OT] sapm from amkette

2004-03-10 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
i love fighting a losing battle. tell me what we need to do. 

Start with the same case reported by honorable Raj Mathur --> 'Sapm'
Whoops! "Spam from amkette". Find who was responsible for this mail in
the poor INBOX of Raj and why the *hell* did they do that??? 

[RAJ]
>>>The suspicious thing was that is addressed me as "Dear Linux
>>>professional". The only place I had given out that particular email
ID 
>>>was at LinuxAsia. Are they selling those email IDs? Has any one you
got 
>>>such mails too?

And if this suspect becomes truth! Ask the explanation from these guys
and tell them to prove there justification for this 'Sin'...

Then if some success is achieved, burn the newspapers, magazine and
badly publicize the same...
I am sure after that we will be in a position wherein Sandip
Bhattacharya will also get 'Insaaf' for the offence made by Indiatimes
astrology promo mail.

I am sure you have the powers and you *will* win the battle...
Good Luck!

BR,
GSS

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RE: [ilugd] [Weird] Postgresql vs Oracle

2004-03-05 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva


Hi Vivek,

>>>This is a slightly weird question. I am having this
>>>debate with a friend of mine. 

We already had one Hot! Hot! discussion on it in oct last year... Where
in Tarun initiated the Fire. And the honorable Raj Mathur, Shantanu and
Supreet took active part in it.

>>>Which is a better DB for serving enterprise needs
>>>Postgresql or Oracle.

The fire started after I made a comment "You are comparing an apple with
a Water Melon :o) which unfortunately did not sound good to Tarun...

"Let me make it very cleat that I don't have any hunch in open source
and thats why I am in the list but my dear, facts are facts."

--Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva (14th Oct 2003)

>>>(comaprision in terms of support, cost, platform
>>>independence, deployment in critical situations etc.)

Support: Oracle has an edge over PostgreSQL. Poor support offered by
PostgreSQL team. Oracle supports more than 10 plateforms including the
features in Grid Computing and Mobile Technology. "Oracle pioneered grid
computing for the enterprise. Only Oracle offers a complete commercial
software infrastructure designed specifically for grid computing in the
data center"

Cost: Again it's a debatable thing but I *believe* cost is measured by
ROI. And it depends on the requirement. For a very large enterprise,
Oracle has proved to attain the ROI within a year or so.
Oracle is expensive (BUT worth every single penny if it deployed on an
enterprise platform). PostgreSQL is free.

Plateform Independence: Oracle has support for every platform on this
planet. It scales from a PDA to a MPP machine. PostgreSQL does have a
good platform support BUT works well on few of them. Solaris, Windows,
and other flavours.

Deployment: Deployment in critical situations - what does 'critical
means'? 24*7 or what ???. If 24*7 then Oracle has an edge over
PostgreSQL. 

So, if you have deep pockets then opt for oracle else focus on
PostgreSQL.


"We absolutely know we made the right decision at the right time to
implement Oracle E-Business Suite. The economy has changed and things
are tougher; businesses are more competitive. EMC is now prepared to
handle these changes because our investment in Oracle software has made
us more efficient." 
-- Dave Ellard, Senior Vice President and CIO

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RE: [ilugd] Suggestion for ilugd meet

2004-03-03 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
>>>I can cover usage of security tools in linux - nessus, ntop, nmap,
distro >>>called phlak

Is there any volunteer for 'John the Ripper'?
I tried it once but was not successful...
I am dieing to have that Cherry :o(


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RE: [ilugd] Suggestion for ilugd meet

2004-03-03 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva


>>>How about having a ilugd meet on "Securing your linux boxes",
>>>and how about conducting it this month???

Awesome Idea!

>>>Raj, Kishore or any one who is into seurity, please
>>>volunteer to speak.

Can any one come up with practical implementations and some live
examples of security in Linux? It would be a treat for me :-)

BR,
GSS

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RE: [ilugd] [OT] Spy trackers in Indiatimes mailers?

2004-02-24 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
>>>india has a pathetic stance on spyware, privacy issues, email
harvesting, 

Agreed!!!

I just (for the first time in my life --> after signing in yahoo for
more than 7 years) read the Yahoo's Date Protection Policy.

Source: http://privacy.yahoo.com/

Yahoo! takes your privacy seriously. Please read the following to learn
more about our privacy policy...

>>>1) collection of address, email, mobile, res numbers, etc., while
>>>filling up most forms for banks etc. no clear-cut policy with
liability
>>>& responsibility on default mentioned.

This policy covers how Yahoo! treats personal information that Yahoo!
collects and receives, including information related to your past use of
Yahoo! products and services. Personal information is information about
you that is personally identifiable like your name, address, email
address, or phone number, and that is not otherwise publicly available. 
This policy does not apply to the practices of companies that Yahoo!
does not own or control or to people that Yahoo! does not employ or
manage.


>>>2) no policy on sale or hire of such databases to third party or
>>>sub-contractors. or to other marketing services.

Yahoo! does not rent, sell, or share personal information about you with
other people or nonaffiliated companies except to provide products or
services you've requested, when we have your permission, or under the
following circumstances: 
We provide the information to trusted partners who work on behalf of or
with Yahoo! under confidentiality agreements. These companies may use
your personal information to help Yahoo! communicate with you about
offers from Yahoo! and our marketing partners. However, these companies
do not have any independent right to share this information.

>>>4) spam, marketing junk material need not have any real
responsibility

Yahoo! uses information for the following general purposes: to customize
the advertising and content you see, fulfill your requests for products
and services, improve our services, contact you, conduct research, and
provide anonymous reporting for internal and external clients.

>>>5) if you ever ask total strangers who call you on marketing calls,
>>>where they caught hold of your contact details, they refuse to reveal
>>>their source, and promptly hang up.

DO we really care to cross check or try to become so reactive that we
can find the root cause for it other than just banging on the poor
fellow??? 
Do we care to read all this "GYAN" written about the privacy before
actually signing in or filling any form???
I couldn't find even a drop of it on Indiatimes...If any one finds it
plz do let me know)

Are we *really* willing to stop using there services just because they
don't have any defined Data Protection Policy for there customers???

>>>I wish to do something about this. Who else has some proactive,
tangible >>>steps on what we can do that leads to results?

We need to put awareness in the general public that this is harmful and
will cause a slow poison in us. This is for sure that many of us
(including me) care a damm! about it and take it very likely until it
actually irritate us and we start crying and screaming for the procedure
and policy of various companies... :-(


>>>let's try those steps on indiatimes for a start for the spyware email
>>>they sent sandip.


I am there with you will all my TAN, MAN and DHAN... until it actually
affects my job and doesn't involve a Police ruffart in it...
I am scared of police... ;o)

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RE: [ilugd] Updating linux-delhi.org website

2004-02-17 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

Also Kindly upload the PICS of Newbie meet (Dec. 2003).

Thanks and Regards,
Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

>>Can someone Please take some initiative to update linux-delhi.org with
current LinuxAsia2004 pics.


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RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(

2004-02-17 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva




>>>sendmail is unable to get the MX record of the domain

This is the case when the mail server is unable to send mails on a
single domain and its working perfect on other domains.

 
## but when I try sending mail to *anywhere* outside say abc.com it says
## connecting to abc.com via esmtp


Then DNS may not be the prime issue rather relaying can be a problem.
Contact your ISP, if they have properly given a relay to your IPs.

Or you can make your own SMTP server without using the ISP one.

Edit /etc/sendmail.cf and change 127.0.0.1 --> Public IP
And vi /etc/mail/relay-domains and give the IP block of your network.
You can use this as your SMTP server.

HTH...

BR,
Gurpreet


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[ilugd] Microsoft source code leaked over Net

2004-02-16 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Can it be *another* Marketing Stunt???
Anyways M$ --> finally exposed...
May God also bless them with Open Source :o)

http://www.daytondailynews.com/business/content/business/daily/0213micro
soft.html

SEATTLE -- Microsoft Corp. said late Thursday that portions of its
Windows source code - the tightly guarded blueprint of its dominant
computer operating system - had been leaked over the Internet.
 
Microsoft spokesman Tom Pilla said in an interview with The Associated
Press that some incomplete portions of the Windows 2000 and Windows NT4
source code had been "illegally made available on the Internet."
 
Access to the source code could allow hackers to exploit the operating
system and attack machines running some versions of Windows. Several
versions of the operating system, including the ones containing leaked
code, are used on hundreds of millions of computers worldwide...



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RE: [ilugd] URL Filtering with Squid

2004-02-13 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Can use Access Control Lists of squid...
It also has the facility for restricting downloads by making different
pools of users...
Long ago, I used them, they were very helpful to me :o)
Best of luck to you...

HTH...

Regards,

Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva



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Hi,

Can somebody please suggest good Filtering tool to be used with Squid.
I need to block access to Porn material ( sites and downloads ).
Checked DansGuard site , but the license says its not free for
commercial use. I am not sure about performance of Squidguard can
somebody comment on this. Or any better option / Links available?


Thanks
Manish Gulati

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RE: [ilugd] LinuxAsia, last day

2004-02-12 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Hats Off for these Guys...
May GOD bless them with Open Source!!! :o)

Regards,

Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva


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Hi all you Dudes and Dudettes out there!

Today (13th) is the last day of LinuxAsia 2004.  As you'd no doubt
recall, ILUG-Delhi has a strong presence out there -- despite being
relegated to the stall furthest from the ``real'' action, we're seeing
more visitors than probably all the other exhibitors put together!

So what're we doing at the ILUGD stall?

We're playing loud music.  We mainly do 60s and 70s rock, but old
Hindi is also available on request :)  I mention this because a
gentleman from another, nearby stall popped in yesterday and said
words to the effect of ``Thanks for the music, otherwise we'd have
been very bored out here''

We're selling CDs.  We currently have Knoppix 3.3, Fire 0.4, GnuWinII
and Mandrake.  Plan to get Fedora Core 1 (3-CD set) today.  We've sold
tons of CDs so far, and given away not a few.  Kapil is managing the
CD sales, and he's henceforth given the title ``Supreme CD Sales
Generalissimo for Life'' in ILUG-Delhi.

We're giving demos of Linux to visitors.  If Sudev were selling
anything he'd be a millionaire by now -- he's so busy demonstrating
and discussing LTSP and Linux in the Office that he doesn't even get
time to eat lunch!  AshLin stands near the entrance of the stall and
charms visitors into having a look, and you know what they say, one
look and they're hooked.

We're pledging support to educational and government institutions who
visit the stall.  Expect a long list of TODOs once the event is over
- -- we've committed to propagating Linux and Free Software all over
India, from Almora to Ahmedabad.  And, of course, in Delhi.

We're having a ball!  The days have passed by in a haze of activity,
and the evenings in a haze of food and alcohol.

So come on, visit the stall up to 2pm today and buy a couple of CDs,
talk to some people, make a convert, join the festivities.

And while you're there, don't forget to give a special thanks to the
people who made this possible.  You will get the whole list, but for
now let me mention (to the best of my abilities, which are nearly 0 at
0800) those who have selflessly (well, OK, for a couple of samosas)
and fearlessly stood up and been counted:

Amitabh
Anirban
AshLin
Kapil
Kishore
Mairu
Mary
Pankaj
Sudev
Viksit
Vivek

Please give a large hand to these folks.  If our LUG has managed to
achieve anything, it is because of people like you and your unflagging
enthusiasm.

...and if I've inadvertently missed you out, please forgive -- extra
samosa on me for you today, and maybe even a free cup of tea :)

Regards,

- -- Raju
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RE: [ilugd] HAS LFY mag. duped us...

2004-02-11 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
No Bipin, I received this month's edition day before yesterday! 
Probably you too will get a one in a day or two or you can use your
right to bang their ears!
Pick up the phone buddy :o)

Regards,

Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva



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 Hi friends,
Has anyone subscribed to LFY (Linux for
you) magazines . I think those fellows have duped us
because all of a sudden I have stopped receiving them
 



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RE: [ilugd] sendmail query

2004-02-05 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

Are you configuring ur own sendmail???
If yes --> Check the entry in /etc/mail/local-host-names (give the
domain name in that).
Also check the MX records in DNS. They should point properly with the
reverse lookup zone configured.
Can be a bandwidth issues also but it's a rare case.
The *Mailer-Deamon* send back will tell u the whole story :)

HTH...

Regards,

 Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

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Hi 
 
 
There is one query regarding sendmail, suppose if user is not able to
receive mails in his/her inbox but is able to compose mails from the
same account what kind of problem is this and how could we rectify this
kind of problem.
please explain by taking some example.
I'll appreciate any initiative from your side.
 
Thanking You


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[ilugd] hi

2004-01-27 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Hello Mr. Mathur,
   I just had a question; I have heard that a normal
Linux user can make changes (by some means) into the files of another
normal Linux user. Is it possible??
Please guide me towards some of the good books for securing Linux boxes.
I am still waiting for my photograph dear :o)

Regards,

Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

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RE: [ilugd] RedHat contact

2004-01-23 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

Mumbai 

Red Hat India Pvt. Ltd.
135, Mittal Towers, 
13th Floor, B-Wing, 
Nariman Point, 
Mumbai 400 021 
India 
Phone: +91-22-22881326
  : + 91-22-22881327,56306045
  : + 91-22-56306193
Fax: +91-22-22881318 
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Delhi 

Red Hat India Pvt. Ltd.
B-44, Defence Colony,
New Delhi-24
Phone: +91-11-51550569
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Bangalore 

Name : Rohit Kumar Rai.
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mobile: +919886111025.


Source: http://www.in.redhat.com/contact/address.php3  


Regards,

 Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva



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Any one guide me to Delhi (or India) office of RedHat? Contact number /
address.
-- 
Sudev Barar

Learning Linux

Address: D10 NH2, Faridabad 121001
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RE: [ilugd] Firewall implimentation

2004-01-22 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Hi Dheerendar,

   How are you doing??
For configuring a firewall in Linux Machine, "iptables" is the best
option. Iptables restrict the flow of incoming and outgoing packets on
the base of policies you make. The policies are considered from top to
bottom.

For making policies using iptables, man iptables is the best resource
but you can also refer to http://www.faqs.org/docs/iptables/

Please don't forget to issue iptables-save command in the end and
restarting the iptables daemon.

Do let me know if you face any problem in doing that.

Warm Regards,

 Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva



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Hi
I want to implement Linux Firewall , Please provide best documentation 
for implimenatation of firewall.

Thanks & Regards
Dheerendar 
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RE: [ilugd] what career opportunity for me

2004-01-19 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

Hi Ramesh,
I am sorry since my core area is Linux
Administration/Networking and Securities; I won't be able to throw
appropriate light on the Combo of "Linux + C". But many of my friends
are working on it in Bangalore and Hyderabad. I surely will forward your
query to them.
Yes!!! Linux in Networking is a hot area and I have seen many openings
in various ISPs, IT and Non IT firms. Again it's a truth that they need
guys with an exp. Of at least 1-2 years. But if you can manage to gather
some practical knowledge, things are not so difficult.
You never know, when a Penguin will knock your door...
Regards,

 Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

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hanks for your kind response,
i have already registered in naukri.com, monsterindia.com,
jobsahead.com,
timesjobs.com, jobdb.com. and i periodically visit these sites but the
problem is everyone is seeking for experience person. and i have noone
who
guide me in this area, all my friends are java programmer, will you
suggest
me some specific field i have to concentrate on (Qt, KDE, Gtk, GNOME, X
Window, Linux networking, etc) currently i am working on Qt-KDE and
MySql.
ramesh

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Hi Ramesh,
   Plz don't get dishearten, there are huge amount of Jobs in
the combo --> "Linux + C" @ naukri dot com. Just have a look on jobs
available in LFY for the past few months. Or just do let me know if I
can help you in finding a one.

Regards,

 Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

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RE: [ilugd] Club bandwidth -> linux gurus

2004-01-19 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
>>>No I was just suggesting that "rude"(which apparently
>>>only I felt) comments to linux newbies from Linux gurus
>>>can act as a detterent to newbies from being a part of Linux
community. >>>Some initial mouth feeding could resolve this?

Why we guys always have an escapist attitude??? We never want to open a
book or document and dream that some day some magician will come with
his magic stick, will make a liquid of the book and will put it in our
brain...
I *believe* that "no one" in this group will refuse to answer a sub
query on a query (provided you have made a sincere effort to tackle
that...


>>>Oh I dont know!
>>>But this is similar to reinventing the wheel.
>>>Something GNU is against.]
>>>To a tribe that has seen a wheel for the first time,
>>>isnt it better for the
>>>world if the tribe is shown how a wheel 
>>>is used rather than handling them a
>>>manual they can't read.

Good example!!! But I never knew that you are unable to read the
manual...
Plz, I am sure that you are grown enough to read something written in
simple salty English and even if you find some spice in it, you can
always refer to www.dictionary.com. And if any Technical query (no
matter how basic it may be); you are always welcome to post them in the
list...

>>>The tribe could then develop if furhter, rather than
>>>discovering the use of the wheel on their own 
>>>and then starting on to
>>>something better OR dumping the wheel aside
>>>because they couldnt figure what a wheel is all about!

Believe me, I would be the last person on this earth to discourage any
one or be a hindrance in the development on anyone in this world... 
You are most welcome to post any of the queries/questions/suggestions
and I am "nobody" to stop anyone from doing this...

>>>Ofcourse, Sandip's point of hiring is accepted.
>>>But "hire or I wont tell you a thing,
>>>just do what you want with the manual"
>>>is unhealthy.
>>>Can we call the tribe dumb if they are not
>>>able to figure out the use of a wheel on their own ?

>>>Mercy! But ...are you drunk or a philosopher?

Sorry!!! I don't drink and it was just to lighten up the mood...

"At the center of the Linux philosophy is a concept that we now call
Open Source Software"

Cheers!!!

Regards,

Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

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RE: [ilugd] Club bandwidth

2004-01-19 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Comments emembeded...


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>>>Yikes!!  This gives an impression that all Linux Techie lead a hand
to mouth life. I thought Linuxers/GNUers are driven >>>by the statement
"The most courageous people in the world are volunteers".

Aren't you trying to exploit this statement???

>>>However, most of the replies that come from "gurus" in this mailing
list are like, "newbies need to be looked down >>>>
>>>upon". No doubt there are words of encouragement that appear to just
"float" all over.
>>>But when a newbie  asks a "technical" query. The replies have a tone
" HUH! You don't even know that!, get lost, read >>>this, this and this,
do a million sit-ups and then come back, I might explain you the real
answer."

It won't be a sit-up exersice but yes, no body should encourage "Mouth
Feeding".
Progress has little to do with speed, but much to do with direction!!!
So a breif direction would let me *scratch* all the possibilties to
solve the problem and let all my brothers know, if I found another
related thing that would help others in future...

>>>Could be due to the fact that
>>>1) The guru is tired of replying to stupid questions
>>>2) The guru is conceited.
>>>3) The guru doesn't want to be with newbies any more.
>>>4) guru is not a guru, but simply wants to be called a guru.

The conscience of the soul will help you change and be the best you can
be!!!

>>>For eg. Ghane replies as if he is going to skin a newbie alive if
he/she dared to ask what the command to see a 
>>>directory listing is! The above example has not much to do with the
rest of the mail.
>>>If I was a guru I'd probably know.
>>>Having, said all that, I as a novice, I still feel nice to be a part
of ILUGD. Perhaps the above is NOT true to that 
>>>extreme, but I do sense it sometimes.

And life is what we make it, always has been and always will be :-)

-Amit.

Cheers!!!

-Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva


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RE: [ilugd] what career opportunity for me

2004-01-19 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

Hi Ramesh,
   Plz don't get dishearten, there are huge amount of Jobs in
the combo --> "Linux + C" @ naukri dot com. Just have a look on jobs
available in LFY for the past few months. Or just do let me know if I
can help you in finding a one.

Regards,

 Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

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Hi,
i have done 'A' level from 'DOEACC' in july 2003. i am interested in
linux application development, and from last one year i am working on
linux.i can have good knowledge of  'C' and 'C++' and from last six
months i
am working on 'school anagement project' ('A' level project) which is on
Qt
toolkit and MySql. due to fresher i am not getting any call from any
company
or placement. many of my friends are saying that there is no job for C &
C++
at this level('A' level) and you are wasting your time in linux. all
work of
development in linux are done only by highly qualified professionals.
your
have just one option just move to .NET.
is it so, i want to know at this level have i any chances of job, i can
not
do any advance course in linux (due to financial reason), or i switch to
windows.
thanks
ramesh chandra.




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RE: [ilugd] Help Require to divide Bandwidth

2004-01-19 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

Hi Sandeep,

We also had such scenario in my previous organization. I
successfully did that by using Pools in squid, wherein you can manage
the bandwidth pools on IP base...
You can also do that in CISCO by either using QoS or rate-limit based on
IPs.

HTH...


Regards,

Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

 


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Hi Everyone!!!

Please help in the following...

I have Lease Line of Bharti (64k in 1:4). Presently it is connected as

Lease Line (Copper Pair)-> RAD HTU E1-->RAD FCD-2--->Cisco
Router 1720
(WIC1T)-->Gateway Server

Gateway Server (RHL 7.3 with IPChains) have 3 NIC's which are connected
as

Eth0-->Cisco Router
Eth1-->Switch (For Server's)
Eth2-->Switch(For Users)

Now we are going to upgrade this Lease Line to 128k as one new sister
concern is
going to open in the same premises. Management wants to divide this 128k
into 50-50%
in parent & sister concern. Can we achieve it on Gateway ? If any other
solution has,
please suggest.

Thanking you in advance.

Sandeep Agarwal

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RE: [ilugd] Club bandwidth

2004-01-17 Thread Gurpreet Singh Kochhar
thanks
can you or someone help in making a Linux machine for me (I will provide the
hardware and reasonable expenses)

thanks
Gurpreet

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Read this one.

http://lartc.org/lartc.html

Sandeep
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> Hi
>
> I have 3 ISP connections - always on
>
> I want help in making a Linux box which can take inputs from 3 different
ISP
> connections and make fat pipe output
> if it can do bandwidth load balancing that would be great
>
> please revert ASAP
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> thanks
> Gurpreet
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[ilugd] Club bandwidth

2004-01-17 Thread Gurpreet Singh Kochhar
Hi

I have 3 ISP connections - always on

I want help in making a Linux box which can take inputs from 3 different ISP
connections and make fat pipe output
if it can do bandwidth load balancing that would be great

please revert ASAP

thanks
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RE: [ilugd] Knoppix Kicks!!!!!

2004-01-13 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
OUTPORT is a very good tool that can be used. -->
http://outport.sourceforge.net/

http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Outlook-to-Unix-Mailbox.html can
also help.

HTH...

Regards,

 Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

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Is there any similar tool that can conver the .pst files of Microsoft
Outlook? (Yes Ms outlook and MS-outlook express are different ;)

Regards
Mani
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> On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 19:01, Suraj Berwal wrote:
>
> > 4. Another thing is I need a email client which can import all my
mails
from
> > the Outlook Express 6.
>
>
> google search for 'dbfconv' which is a small 24k utility, that
converts
> a bleak outlook into a rosy future . . . .
>
> it converts dbx datafiles into mbx, which almost all email clients
open.
>
> your real problem is your contact list. just export that as an ldap
> file, or even a *.csv, and then import that into the email client of
> choice under gnulinux, then you'll be okay.
>
>
>
> :-)
> LL
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RE: [ilugd] Re: Promiscuous Mode of Ethernet

2004-01-12 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Hi AMS,
 Now I got that, Thanks Buddy!!!

Regards,

 Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

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RE: [ilugd] Re: Promiscuous Mode of Ethernet

2004-01-09 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

Hi AMS,

I am sorry but I couldn't get *(instead of only those that are addressed
to it)*. Yeh baat kuch hazam nahi hui...

Please elaborate :-(

Regards,

 Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva



At 2004-01-09 02:02:33 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> What exactly is promiscuous mode?

It's a mode in which an Ethernet card receives all frames on the network
(instead of only those that are addressed to it). In this case, tcpdump
is setting the promiscuous mode on your interface, which will return to
normal when you exit tcpdump.

> I would appreciate it deep from my heart if someone explains it
> deeply...

Did you ask Google about promiscuous mode?

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[ilugd] Photographs and minuts of the last meet!!!

2004-01-08 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Hi guys,
 I just wanted to ask if someone is uploading the minutes and
the photographs of the December meet on the website. 
Would humbly request RAJ to send me some of the photographs including
the one (U + me + Penguin Uncle), off list. I would appreciate that.

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[ilugd] Promiscuous Mode of Ethernet

2004-01-08 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva


Hi Folks,

I configured NFS a few days back, and after giving #tcpdump
command, I was shown that the Ethernet is running in promiscuous mode
and a huge amount of packets were coming in and out of the poor box!!!
Can anyone throw some light on it...?
What exactly is promiscuous mode?
I would appreciate it deep from my heart if someone explains it
deeply...

Thanks and Regards,

Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

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RE: [ilugd] Network Setup ?

2004-01-07 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
There are several Serial to Ethernet connectors available in the market
for Rs. 5000 - 10,000 depending on requirement. Use that and the problem
will be solved.

HTH...

Regards,

 Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva



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Subject: [ilugd] Network Setup ?

Hi,
I have a simple query. I have been looking at Linux
Based routers recently and can't seem to figure out
"where" they go in the network setup !! Currently, our
leased line from BSNL plugs into a Motorola leased
line modem, which is connected to a Cisco 2500 Router
through a serial connection. the cisco connects to our
network through rj-45. Now if i have to replace the
hardware router with a linux based one, can i do that
?
Basically, all router distros that i looked at wanted
two NICs but here the modem is attached to the router
through a serial connection.

Regrards
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[ilugd] Help needed!!!

2004-01-06 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Can anyone in the group refer me some good material on the net/books for
CISA and CISSP. I can understand it's an off-topic request but the
urgency forced me to post this request.
Any God's man there to help me out!!!
Knock Knock!!!

Regards,

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RE: [ilugd] now, help on lilo

2004-01-06 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Oops!!! 3 hours and that too precious... OMG!!!

Was there any separate boot partition when the linux was running on both
pf its legs?

After booting it in rescue mode, what does fdisk -l says???

You need to mount the file system of linux, change root on the mounted
file system and then make changes and do some formalities of sync sync
before un-mounting and exiting...

HTH... 

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Subject: [ilugd] now, help on lilo

Hello,

I had a dual boot system with redhat linux and winxp. Winxp was giving a
lot of problems. so decided to remove it and install win 2000. did it
and
as usual, lilo was gone.

I have faced such a problem earlier too but I always used to reinstalled
linux and I dont want to take the same old step. 


The steps I took:

1) used knoppix, was able to mount the root, was able to edit lilo.conf
(used vi) but was unable to run lilo. whenever i ran lilo, it gave some
error saying 'there's some problem in lilo.conf at line number xx'. I
searched for some sample lilo.conf and there was no mistake.

2) used 2-3 floppy bootable linux distributions but was unseccussful.

3) since i can't go into dos, i can't use loadlin. i used a dos bootable
floppy and tried loadlin 
from there but to no avail.

4) I even used the RHL 8.0 first CD to get into the rescue mode and try
from there. but it says that there aren't any linux partitions present
in
the hard disk. ufff, there are i guess because explore2fs is able to
read
the partitions. 


NOW WHAT SHOULD I DO, I NEED LINUX TO STAND UP AND START RUNNING. 


Just the day before I lost linux, i apt-get_ed it. It took precious 3
hours of mine.

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RE: [ilugd] delay in bootup process - RH 8.0

2004-01-05 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Must be due to Time Skew Error...

Try 
#touch /etc/mail
#touch /etc/mail/*

And restart the Sendmail service...

HTH...

Regards,

 Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva



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Subject: [ilugd] delay in bootup process - RH 8.0

Hello guys,
 
I have installed RH 8.0 on a HCL PC.  While booting and coming at the
stage of Starting mail it takes approx. 3-4 minutes and then
proceeds ahead. Pl. guide where is the problem. I shall be thankful to
you.
 
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RE: [ilugd] Has any one used floppy based Linux firewalls/routers? Whathas been the experience?

2003-12-26 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Arjun,

You may go ahead with IPTABLES which will also help you in NAT/Proxy --
Simple and Sweet :-)
Or else squid is also an option wherein you can use ACLs and data
caching simultaneously...

HTH...

Regards,

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Whathas been the experience?

Dear Friends,

I plan to use an old PC based Linux firewall/router for my father's
office network. I want to know which ones are good and can be
used/implemented easily. 
There will be around 20 Win/Lin machines with one proxy+mail server (may
be Linux). The network will be connected to Internet thru
cable/DSL/Modem.
The Lin firewall/router will sit between the internal network and
internet. 

Regards. 

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RE: [ilugd] ILUG-D: pl rpy

2003-12-26 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Even I am taking Linux classes on weekends and in the institute in which
I am doing free lancing take very decent and reasonable charges.
The course is for the RHCE covering all the three modules.
If you want to further enquire about anything, you can contact me
off-list.

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[Please CC the original poster -- Raju]

Message from Mr. Sandipan Saha:

 sir/mam  i have some quary about linux
   1. if i want 2 learn linux where should i go(in delhi).
   2.how much i have 2 give as a tution fees.
   3. details about course &  institute address.
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[ilugd] We had a amazing meet on Sunday!!!

2003-12-22 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Hi Folks,

 Just to express my views on the meet. It was a massive meeting
which really can open the *closed* eyes of the people who just are
scared of the Golden Word "Linux", and can really make them Love it
after attending the meet. And the majority of credit goes to
*Ash*Win*... Thank you very much for all the efforts made by you and
your Team...
Me and the two newbie (came along with me) really cherished the meet and
would encourage such steps in the future so that the fire remains
burning...
The words that came out of the mouth of LL were amazing and really made
sense for us... :)
Would request Ashwin and Raj to upload the minutes and photographs as
early as convenient so that I can see (and make others see) my
photograph with Raj and the Penguin sweetie... (A little bit selfish in
that case-Please don't mind)
In brief it was amazing day for me to meet such great personalities
under a single roof.
Thanks a lot for making that possible...
Three Cheers for ILUG-D...
Hip Hip Hurray...
Hip Hip Hurray...
Hip Hip Hurray... 

Now, I am able to hear a huge voice... and am *sure* in a couple of
months this voice will be echoed in *Entire Delhi*...

Let's keep the fire burning in our hearts and let's make a sincere
effort to light it in others...

Regards,

Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva


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RE: [ilugd] ./a.out not working!

2003-12-08 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Which Compiler are you using? C programs can be compiled using 
gcc-2.96-110 and c++ using cpp-2.96-110.

After compiling the program, does it make the file a.out? Is there any
error or warning while compiling the program? Also check the file
permission of a.out.

HTH.


Regards,

 Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva



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Hello,
I am a new Linux 9.0 user and i have tried "./a.out" to execute my files
but it says "command not found."
also, I installed all the compilers while installing Linux 9.0 but
whenever i try the command "rpm -q " for java or c++, it
says " not installed". 
I am confused... is the compiler for c and c++ the same or different?
Please advise.
Thank you,
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RE: [ilugd] Doubling Download Speed

2003-12-01 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Hi Varun,

I *believe* its not possible as the 24 hours online won't allow you to
do so. If by any chance you manage to introduce a proxy at your client
end, it should be a transparent one and that is impossible with a single
LAN card. 

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Subject: [ilugd] Doubling Download Speed

hey people
i have a 24 online cable connection at my place. the cable-waalah has
capped
the speed at 32kbps. i have a friend who also has subscribed to the same
cable-waalah and are being serviced by the same hub(he lives some 25 ft
from
my place). his computer is usually on the whole day and is used to check
the
mail only and/or to type some office related documents. so his internet
connection is just there to prevent misuse of the dial-up connection.
and
since i am usually downloading something or the other :D i was wondering
if
i can double my speed by installing a proxy server s/w at his place and
routing half of my internet traffic thru his comp thereby doubling my
effective speed. I won't be able to install more LAN card on his
machine.
and he uses win98 and won't be able to change the s/w at his place. i
use
RHL9.0.
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affly
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RE: [ilugd] The December Meet

2003-11-25 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Hi Ashwin,
   First of all thanks for considering my offer. Sure I will get
the details you require in a day or two. I believe it's a *pleasure*
more me in contributing in such a noble gesture.

Regards,

 Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva



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Subject: Re: [ilugd] The December Meet

Dear Gurpreet,
Thanks for the offer. Can you get me some figures  as to how many will
attend from SSI? Names, phone-numbers, email ids would make it perfect
;-).
But of course, if one cant get  these things, a rough indication such as
..
I think 5 chaps will be there on 21st ... will help. The meet agenda
will be
finalised in the next week.
Regards, Ashwin

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From: "Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Linux-Delhi mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: [ilugd] The December Meet


> Dear Ashwin,
>
> That's sounds good... On this auspicious occasion, (With your
> permission) I take the ownership to distribute such a message among
the
> students of almost all the SSI institutes in Delhi. But kindly confirm
> the entire program to me. I have decided to take active part in all
the
> meets in future.
>
> Regards,
>
>  Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Ashwin Baindur
> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:15 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ilugd] The December Meet
>
> Dear Puneet,
>
> >that's cool! looks very exciting. wish i can be there too.
>
> >my two cents :)
>
> Thanks for your enthusiasm. We need support from enthu people like
you.
> So I
> welcome you to the volunteer committee for the Dec meet and hope to
see
> you
> contribute. Since I do not have time (I'm a chief administrator of a
> govt
> college ((all students of late 50s age))) may I request you to kindly
> compose and put up notices in two Colleges having IT DEptts/computer
> courses? This is to be done after I send Raju final programme,
sometime
> after Dec 01. Do let me know where you are putting up the notices.
>
> >and more advertisement about linux-delhi.  and in case we are getting
> >overcrouded we can put some small enterence fees, just to cover up
> expenses
>
> Regretfully, I am vetoing your suggestion for entrance fees. I'm of
the
> opinion that it would act like a barrier. A better model is the
present
> one
> ie to request those who earn to shell out Rs 50/- or Rs 100/- as per
> your
> ichha; students may dish out less or need not dish out if they are
hard
> up.
> In this way we pay for our eats/drinks. Newbies buy their CDs at Rs
30/-
> or
> so.
>
> >and to keep the  freebies(i mean ppl who are not serious enough)
> out
> >. There is nothing which is free in the world.
>
> I welcome people to a Newbies meet. If they come, they may become
> serious.
> Thanks for your involvement :-)
> Regards, Ashwin
>
>
> >From: "Puneet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "The Linux-Delhi mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [ilugd] The December Meet
> >Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:11:41 +0530
> >
>
> >
> >To increase the presence we can advertise this event at some colleges
> and
> >Computer institutes like NIIT and some companies. those are the
places
> >where
> >we will be getting most of the newbies and ppl who are just willing
to
> know
> >more about Linux. I am sure our current members can do this kind of
> >advertisement at their place either by word of mouth or mailing to
> >companies
> >list or so n so. Of course we will be geeting more volunteer for next
> meets
> >
> >I am already smelling a fabulous and quality presence there :).
> >
> >
> >cheers!
> >Puneet
> >**
> >Dont be fooled!! The penguins are coming!!!
> >**
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "LinuxLingam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "The Linux-Delhi mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 12:09 AM
> >Subject: Re: [ilugd] The December Meet
> >
> >
> > > On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 17:26, Ashwin Baindur wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > * With help - Volunteers required please who can showcase the
> install,
>

RE: [ilugd] [OT] help for client/server programming

2003-11-24 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Hi Vivek,
  Start your first step with *Richards Steven* and read #man
sockets in any Linux box.

Regards,

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Subject: [ilugd] [OT] help for client/server programming

Hi! Everyone

 I want to learn client/server programming, any
experts on the list who can sugest me how to start and
then how to progress. i wnat to gain theoratical as
well as practicle knowledg of the field.

with regards
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RE: [ilugd] The December Meet

2003-11-24 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Dear Ashwin,

That's sounds good... On this auspicious occasion, (With your
permission) I take the ownership to distribute such a message among the
students of almost all the SSI institutes in Delhi. But kindly confirm
the entire program to me. I have decided to take active part in all the
meets in future.

Regards,

 Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

  
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On Behalf Of Ashwin Baindur
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ilugd] The December Meet

Dear Puneet,

>that's cool! looks very exciting. wish i can be there too.

>my two cents :)

Thanks for your enthusiasm. We need support from enthu people like you.
So I 
welcome you to the volunteer committee for the Dec meet and hope to see
you 
contribute. Since I do not have time (I'm a chief administrator of a
govt 
college ((all students of late 50s age))) may I request you to kindly 
compose and put up notices in two Colleges having IT DEptts/computer 
courses? This is to be done after I send Raju final programme, sometime 
after Dec 01. Do let me know where you are putting up the notices.

>and more advertisement about linux-delhi.  and in case we are getting
>overcrouded we can put some small enterence fees, just to cover up
expenses

Regretfully, I am vetoing your suggestion for entrance fees. I'm of the 
opinion that it would act like a barrier. A better model is the present
one 
ie to request those who earn to shell out Rs 50/- or Rs 100/- as per
your 
ichha; students may dish out less or need not dish out if they are hard
up. 
In this way we pay for our eats/drinks. Newbies buy their CDs at Rs 30/-
or 
so.

>and to keep the  freebies(i mean ppl who are not serious enough)
out
>. There is nothing which is free in the world.

I welcome people to a Newbies meet. If they come, they may become
serious.
Thanks for your involvement :-)
Regards, Ashwin


>From: "Puneet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "The Linux-Delhi mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [ilugd] The December Meet
>Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:11:41 +0530
>

>
>To increase the presence we can advertise this event at some colleges
and
>Computer institutes like NIIT and some companies. those are the places 
>where
>we will be getting most of the newbies and ppl who are just willing to
know
>more about Linux. I am sure our current members can do this kind of
>advertisement at their place either by word of mouth or mailing to 
>companies
>list or so n so. Of course we will be geeting more volunteer for next
meets
>
>I am already smelling a fabulous and quality presence there :).
>
>
>cheers!
>Puneet
>**
>Dont be fooled!! The penguins are coming!!!
>**
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "LinuxLingam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "The Linux-Delhi mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 12:09 AM
>Subject: Re: [ilugd] The December Meet
>
>
> > On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 17:26, Ashwin Baindur wrote:
> >
> >
> > > * With help - Volunteers required please who can showcase the
install,
>the
> > > use of the Seven Steps to Samadhi programmes, speak on Newbie
topics.
> >
> > i have done several talks, seminars, and workshops, where have
walked
> > through the seven steps to samadhi programme. the document is both
an
> > outcome of that, and a documentation for that. could do one for
ilug-d
> > as well.
> >
> > suggestion: one or two newbies could bring their *fully backed up*
and
> > ready-to-migrate pcs to the meet, where volunteers could demo an
> > install.
> >
> >
> > > * With resources - For example, I'd appreciate if you can bring
some
>Linux
> > > books, CDs or something to the meet to show/inspire/educate the 
>Newbie.
> >
> > abhishek could come with a nice collection set of LinuxForYou *and*
a
> > one-page flier of a summary of topics through the 10 months for
newbies.
> >
> >
> > > * By passing the word to Newbies about this Golden Opprtunity - if
we
>can
> > > get even say a dozen newbies of whom say even three-four get
hooked -
>we'd
> > > have achieved success. Anything more than that would be good
success,
>great
> > > success or extraordinary success (depending on how many come .AND.
>become
> > > Linux-lovers).
> >
> > neat idea.
> >
> > >
> > > I'd be able to do a little bit of each of the things I've asked
help
>for -
> > > but the success of an ILU

RE: [ilugd] Linux Support Engineers

2003-11-24 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Hi Rahul,

I will request you to first *mind* your language. Secondly do let us
know what the dam thing you want *we guys* to do for you... Plz
elaborate your reason for writing such rash words. But plz for GOD sake
this time write in an easy language...

Regards,

 Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva


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Dear All ,
Who the Fuck cares wat the Linux group accepts or not , well u guyz are
just
a big fart building websites and debugging sound card and agp card
issues
,well not to mention u all suck while givin real support and i dont
understand how come all o/p data becomes insufficient and
incomprehensible
suddenly ,any way the linux group can spare me the atrocities id be
happy ,
plz I have not subscribed to any of ur services .Dont bother , just go
and
kiss ass some where else , and kaushal why do u think these guys are of
any
help , havent u seen other forums .thanks for trying anyway ..Delhi
Linux Fart list ..
Regards

Rahul Barua



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> On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 10:37, Kaushal Bhandu wrote:
> May  I request you to please clarify the context in
> which this mail was sent to a awed members of Linux Delhi and
enlighten
> us.
> I can't seem to make any head or tail out of it.
> -Tarun
> PS:The ilugd list doesn't accept any attachments.
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> > Those who can, do. Those who cannot,
> > teach. Those who cannot teach, HACK!
> >
> > Kaushal Bhandankar
> > room#259 hostel #5
> > NIT Kurukshetra
> > Kurukshetra
> > Haryana
> > 136119 INDIA.
> > ph (0) 98121 84680
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RE: [ilugd] Attendees, November Meet

2003-11-18 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Hi Raj,
Can you plz also send the minutes (briefly describing) what was
discussed in the meeting. This will surely encourage *newbies* like me
to actively take part in the next meet.

Thanks and Regards,

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List of people who attended the ILUGD November Meet at Dilli Haat,
2003-11-16:

Alolita Sharma  as (at) technetra (dot) com
Anuj Sharma anuj (dot) sharma (at) hpsglobal (dot) com
Ashish  Mukherjee   ashishm (at) grex (dot) org
Ashwin Baindur  ashwin_baindur (at) yahoo (dot) com
Jasmeet Virdi   jvirdi (at) softhome (dot) net
Kishore  Bhargava   kishore (at) linkaxis (dot) com
Nagadeepan   xyberdip (at) yahoo (dot) com
Nitin Chandra  nitin_chandra1 (at) yahoo (dot) com
Pankaj Kaushal  penguinhead (at) linux-delhi (dot) org
Rajesh Kumarrajeshbabu (at) hotmail (dot) com
Raju Mathur raju (at) linux-delhi (dot) org
Robert Adkins   radkins (at) technetra (dot) com
Sudev  Barar sudev (at) mantraonline (dot) com
Supreet Sethisupreet (at) softhome (dot) net
Tarun Dua   tarundua (at) linux-delhi (dot) org
Vivek Khuranakhuranavivek_in (at) yahoo (dot) com
V Vivek  v_vivek_in (at) yahoo (dot) com

Thanks to Ashwin Baindur for the list.

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RE: [ilugd] Bandwidth management software

2003-11-17 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Hi,

*24 Online* is a good choice if you want to distribute the bandwidth on
Cables. Another is *Allot* or *Astro Flow* again Linux based Servers. If
you don't want to go for a branded one, then I can refer some persons
who can make a customize Linux box for your application and that too in
a low cost budget. If you want to go for a free (muft as in thandi
lassi) you can configure squid with bandwidth pools and there are
freewares that will give you the GUI support. It will be a very good
exercise.

Also check 
http://freshmeat.net/projects/arbitrator/?branch_id=45374&release_id=142
344&topic_id=253%2C150

and

http://www.business-seek-easy.com/management-software/bandwidth-manageme
nt-software.htm


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hi,

i need a bandwidth management software, reasonably mature, robust and
possessing a GUI admin console - any links ?

thanks in advance
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RE: [ilugd] how to transfer domain

2003-11-13 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
You to let the concern person know that you are changing the DNS server
or can directly contact the ISP whose DNS server you are using. They
will contact the people who register the domains. Also plz let me know
which domain are you using and where it is currently pointed???

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hi raj;

i have booked a domain with JAI. now i want to sift that domain. due
date
for renewal is dec 03, so tell me how can i transfer that domain.

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RE: [ilugd] User name with Enter as password.

2003-11-11 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Well that is fine and I already did that but dear my question was to
give *Enter* as password. This activity will remove the password and
won't ask the user for it. But the target is that while the user logs
into the Red Hat Linux machine, he should be prompted for a password and
after the user gives *Enter* as a password, he should be able to login.
Just in case of Windows 2000.

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remove the  entry in second column in /etc/passwd for any user and it
won't
ask for password
for ex
guru:*:
to
guru::

regards
Abhishek
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Hi Folks,

   I was wondering if there is an option in any of the Red Hat
Flavors, that we can give *ENTER* as the password for a particular
user... like we do in Windows. Do let me know if it's possible or not...

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[ilugd] User name with Enter as password.

2003-11-10 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Hi Folks,

   I was wondering if there is an option in any of the Red Hat
Flavors, that we can give *ENTER* as the password for a particular
user... like we do in Windows. Do let me know if it's possible or not...

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[ilugd] Test Mail... Kindly Ignore

2003-10-24 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
 
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[ilugd] How can I change my Email

2003-10-24 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Hi Group,

My email ID has been changed. I updated that in my profile and even contacted the 
administrator of Linux-delhi but still I am not able to receive mails on my new ID. 
Plz help me as my present account will expire in 2 days

Happy Diwali

Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

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RE: [ilugd] Postgres vs oracle

2003-10-17 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
 Correct! 

To be more precise:

The standard form of VACUUM is best used with the goal of maintaining a fairly level 
steady-state usage of disk space. The standard form finds old tuples and makes their 
space available for re-use within the table, but it does not try very hard to shorten 
the table file and return disk space to the operating system. If you need to return 
disk space to the operating system you can use VACUUM FULL --- but what’s the point 
of releasing disk space that will only have to be allocated again soon? Moderately 
frequent standard VACUUMs are a better approach than infrequent VACUUM FULLs for 
maintaining heavily-updated tables.

Recommended practice for most sites is to schedule a database-wide VACUUM once a day 
at a lowusage time of day, supplemented by more frequent vacuuming of heavily-updated 
tables if necessary. (If you have multiple databases in an installation, don’t 
forget to vacuum each one; the vacuumdb script may be helpful.) Use plain VACUUM, not 
VACUUM FULL, for routine vacuuming for space recovery. 

VACUUM FULL is recommended for cases where you know you have deleted the majority of 
tuples in a table, so that the steady-state size of the table can be shrunk 
substantially with VACUUM FULL’s more aggressive approach. 

If you have a table whose contents are deleted completely every so often, consider 
doing it with TRUNCATE rather than using DELETE followed by VACUUM.

Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

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>>>>> "Ambar" == Ambar Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> > Surely NO...so we would certainly be interested to know some
>> of your >
Ambar> "Biggest Internet Sites running on open source".
>> Geocrawler use Postgres.
Ambar> Intresting thing about Geocrawler & AudioGalaxy using
Ambar> postgres was that both of these sites seemed to go offline
Ambar> for daily maintainence during the middle of the day here in
Ambar> India. Both the sites ran Postgresql, and were probably
Ambar> running a daily database cleanup. IMHO this is what has
Ambar> kept me away from considering postgresql for serious
Ambar> databases. Has this issue of regular database maintainence
Ambar> been solved by the recent versions of postgresql?

PostgreSQL (PgSQL) has two types of ``cleanup'': vacuum and vacuum
full.  The first (plain vacuum) merely marked unused (deleted) disk
clusters as free but does not compact the physical database.  The
second (vacuum full) does all that and also physically compacts the
database on disk.

Using vacuum full will lock up your database, no queries or
transactions will be possible while it is running.  However most
databases achieve a sort of `steady state' (roughly the same number of
records being added and deleted regularly) and plain vacuum suffices
for that.  Transactions are possible during vacuum, and most
installations will prefer to use that periodically over vacuum full.
It's only if your database sizes vary wildly over the course of time
that you'll need to use vacuum full (and consequently bring the system
down for maintenance).

The above is from my understanding of PgSQL, would appreciate
clarifications in case I've missed anything out.

Ambar> Another intresting thing about postgresql is that while the
Ambar> web hosting control panels on Linux used to only support
Ambar> MySQL, cPanel & Plesk now have support for Postgresql. To
Ambar> me this is a good sign. Now even smaller sites can start
Ambar> using Postgresql.

Regards,

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RE: [ilugd] Postgres vs oracle

2003-10-14 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Hi Tarun,
   Let me make it very cleat that I don't have any hunch in open source 
and thats why I am in the list but my dear, facts are facts.
(Is Amazon.com running on open source (database)? Is eBay.com running on open source 
(database)? Is Yahoo.com running on open source (database)?
Surely NO...so we would certainly be interested to know some of your > "Biggest 
Internet Sites running on open source".
Kindly show us any relevant benchmark to prove your point on your "tried and tested 
approach". That (deploying parallel servers) reminds me of a circus.
Parallel execution of query in PostgeSQL? Try out and f'd for yourself. And also do 
let us know if we can live without Foreign Keys in a relational world (MySQL)? 
Well I would prefer (anyday) a muft thandi lassi than a muft "thanda" software.
Regards,
Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

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Sent: Tue 10/14/2003 2:16 PM 
To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: [ilugd] Postgres vs oracle



    On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 22:13, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva wrote:
> The strategy of employing dual servers to divide your data
> is a short term arrangement. Lot of performance related issues *will* crop 
up in the future and lot of fingers would be raised on you.
No such things would happen if the architecture is good.
If at all this would normally lead to performance improvement not
degradation.
The strategy to divide the Database onto multiple parallel servers is a good 
one
And a tried and tested one at that.
It would be anyday faster than a single large footprint database
cluster.
All you would need to do is pick up data in parallel from more than one
database to generate a report and very likely use a single database for
a transaction.
And Gurpreet about your hunch on using a Free Software.
Biggest of Internet Sites are running on open source databases.
And you have option of paying up if you don't like Free(muft as in
thandi lassi) software.

-Tarun




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RE: [ilugd] Postgres vs oracle

2003-10-13 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Hi Tarun,
The strategy of employing dual servers to divide your data is a short term 
arrangement. Lot of performance related issues *will* crop up in the future and lot of 
fingers would be raised on you. 
 
Switch to a solution like > SQL Server. Savings on $$ by employing a freeware like 
PostgreSQL is fine but look at other aspects as well. 
 
You can't match optimizer of PostgreSQL vis-a-vis Oracle. Oracle is far ahead!
Anyway Best of Luck, Just do let me know how much you successeded.
Regards,
 
Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
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Sent: Sat 10/11/2003 10:26 AM 
To: 'The Linux-Delhi mailing list' 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: [ilugd] Postgres vs oracle



Gupreet,
It is a real application. It's an OLTP appliaction for banking and
credit card industry. From a concurrency point of view, I expect about 200
connections to the database in the worst case and a fifth of that on the
average.
however, if postgres cannot handle that kind of user connections;
that is fine too. I just need to know the number it can handle and then I
will find a way of dividing the data over 2 or more servers such that each
gets lesser load.

A little off-topic, but
A little research on the web mentions that Postgres Query optimizer
is weak and in general one should optimize the queries by hand (we have to
do the same for oracle anyway. For that kind of database size, I do not
trust the query optimizer any way). Is that true?

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Subject: RE: [ilugd] Postgres vs oracle


Hi Tarun,
  I think you are trying to compare a Apple with a Water Melon.
But any case if you are really facing a real time scenario, please make it
clear. what exactly the application you are running and how many concurrent
user you are expecting to be there as concurrency is a major factor which
can cause ample amount of problems for the DBA. I make sure that I would be
able to solve all your queries. Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva


-Original Message-
From: Tarun Upadhyay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri 10/10/2003 9:50 PM
To: 'The Linux-Delhi mailing list'
Cc:
Subject: [ilugd] Postgres vs oracle
   
   

We have a customer application on oracle.
   
They want to crate a "small footprint" version of it to be sold at a
cheaper
price.
   
I want to suggest that Postgres could be the right choice of
database for
that as it is close to oracle in its sql syntax and hence porting
should be
simpler.
   
Can anybody guide me on what kind of pitfalls we could run into by
choosing
Postgres. The database is not very large but is much larger than
what goes
for "database" in mysql discussions (about 1 GB of data, 100 tables
with
about 10-50 MB added every day)?
   
In particular, I would be interested in hearing from people who have
run
moderately large databases on postgres and how fast they found it.
   
I have heard that it is possible to now provide replication and fail
over
with postgres. Has anybody tried it?
   
Tarun
   
   
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RE: [ilugd] Postgres vs oracle

2003-10-13 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Dear Tarun,
Comparison of PostgreSQL (open source) vis-a-vis Oracle (commercial) is UNFAIR! The 
subject *should* be "PostgeSQL vs Foxpro Ooops > MySQL". PostgreSQL no doubt is a good 
database BUT you can't match Oracle's superior technology. Its in the business for the 
past 27 years (PostgreSQL made its presence felt in 1996) and a dominant player (40% 
market share). 
 
Oracle's database is supported on PDAs to MPP machines (support for more than 200 
platforms). PostgreSQL CAN't boast such kind of statistics.
 
Replication Support was ONLY announced lately > 28/08/2003. It will take *some* time 
to mature (bug fixing underway).
 
Fail over support > Yawn, Yawn ...N/D (No Details). Oracle's technology (i.e Real 
Application Clusters) *is* UNBREAKABLE.
 
Consider this:
 
Synonyms
Postgres: No
 
Updateable views
Postgres:  No.  
 
Partial rollback of transaction
Postgres:  No. 
 
Practically useful maximum number of concurrent users
Postgres:  N/D 
 
Practical maximum number of concurrent users writing to the database
Postgres:  N/D 
 
Incremental backups
Postgres:  No. 
 
Scalability - Support for SMP systems (parallel query execution, etc.)
Postgres:  Postgres is not threaded, but every connection gets it's own process. The 
OS will distribute the processes across the processors. Basically a single connection 
will not be any faster with SMP, but multiple connections will be.  
 
Bitmap indexes
Postgres:  No. 
 
OLAP supporting functions in SQL
Postgres:  No. 
 
Automatic partitioning of large tables/indexes
Postgres:  No. 
 
Gateways to other DBMSs
Postgres:  None. 
 
Access to multiple databases in one session
Postgres:  Only switching between databases.  
 
Two phase commit
Postgres:  No. 
 
VLDB implementations
Postgres:  60GB+ databases exist BUT performance usually degrades.
 
Support from CASE packages
Postgres:  N/D 
 
Special solutions for storage of XML documents
Postgres:  No. 
 
XML support integrated in DBMS
Postgres:  No. 
 
Dedicated Web servers
Postgres:  None. 
 
Automatic recovery from failures
Postgres:  No. There is no transaction log, so the only recovery method is to restore 
database from backup 
 
Availability and quality of technical support
Postgres:  ONLY mailing lists and web-site (postgresql.org). Poor.  
 
Specific market segments occupied
Postgres:  Mostly in education and small web services

-Original Message- 
From: Tarun Upadhyay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Fri 10/10/2003 9:50 PM 
To: 'The Linux-Delhi mailing list' 
Cc: 
Subject: [ilugd] Postgres vs oracle



We have a customer application on oracle.

They want to crate a "small footprint" version of it to be sold at a cheaper
price.

I want to suggest that Postgres could be the right choice of database for
that as it is close to oracle in its sql syntax and hence porting should be
simpler.

Can anybody guide me on what kind of pitfalls we could run into by choosing
Postgres. The database is not very large but is much larger than what goes
for "database" in mysql discussions (about 1 GB of data, 100 tables with
about 10-50 MB added every day)?

In particular, I would be interested in hearing from people who have run
moderately large databases on postgres and how fast they found it.

I have heard that it is possible to now provide replication and fail over
with postgres. Has anybody tried it?

Tarun


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RE: [ilugd] Postgres vs oracle

2003-10-10 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Hi Tarun,
  I think you are trying to compare a Apple with a Water Melon. But any 
case if you are really facing a real time scenario, please make it clear. what exactly 
the application you are running and how many concurrent user you are expecting to be 
there as concurrency is a major factor which can cause ample amount of problems for 
the DBA. I make sure that I would be able to solve all your queries.
Regards,
Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
 

-Original Message- 
From: Tarun Upadhyay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Fri 10/10/2003 9:50 PM 
To: 'The Linux-Delhi mailing list' 
Cc: 
Subject: [ilugd] Postgres vs oracle



We have a customer application on oracle.

They want to crate a "small footprint" version of it to be sold at a cheaper
price.

I want to suggest that Postgres could be the right choice of database for
that as it is close to oracle in its sql syntax and hence porting should be
simpler.

Can anybody guide me on what kind of pitfalls we could run into by choosing
Postgres. The database is not very large but is much larger than what goes
for "database" in mysql discussions (about 1 GB of data, 100 tables with
about 10-50 MB added every day)?

In particular, I would be interested in hearing from people who have run
moderately large databases on postgres and how fast they found it.

I have heard that it is possible to now provide replication and fail over
with postgres. Has anybody tried it?

Tarun


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[ilugd] Free SWAN

2003-10-03 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
Hi group,
   Can any one plz give me some good documentation on FreeSwan on 
Redhat Linux.
I was trying to configure VPN on my Linux Box but was failed to that. Can any one 
guide me how to that.
 
Thanks,
Warm Regards,
Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva
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