Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
Hi! Well i do hope though that the battery last longer on n iphone 6s than on my 5S. Even though its been replaced. /A > 28 sep. 2015 kl. 21:18 skrev Alex Hall : > > OIS seems to mostly help with stabilizing video, from what I've read. Holding > still for a shot with an OCR app, you probably won't notice it as much. > > To say that Apple could include OIS in their smaller devices but chooses not > to seems groundless. We don't know if they could or not, because we don't > know how the cameras work. What if the Plus is the only device to offer the > necessary room? What if there are other technical reasons they couldn't do it > last year or this year? Apple is always close-mouthed about technical > challenges, so no one has a clue what the story is. Could this be just > another way to drive sales toward the larger (and more expensive) phone? > Certainly, and I'm not saying it couldn't be. However, there's also no reason > to say that this is absolutely the case. > > Other than that, what do you lose by going for the 6S over the Plus? More > battery life, which is simply a consequence of not being able to cram as much > battery into a smaller phone. No landscape mode for apps like Safari or Mail, > which is a design decision--the smaller screen just couldn't show apps in the > special landscape mode with enough room to let you operate them effectively. > Remember that Apple is all about esthetics, and a bad user experience isn't > worth it to them, so they will carefully evaluate things and only bring > features that look good on big screens to smaller screens when they know they > can do it well. Finally, you lose the extra room for app screens or braille > input, which is, again, a consequence of a smaller screen. > > Aside from OIS, both models are the same in all but screen/battery. The same > camera, amount of ram, Touch ID sensor, flash, button placement, > processor/coprocessor, wireless abilities, ports, NFC chip, and so on. I > guess I'm not seeing the big deal; if you don't want the Plus, the smaller > iPhone 6 or 6S is still the same device, just smaller and lacking OIS. It's > also $100 less. >> On Sep 28, 2015, at 13:16, Regina Alvarado > <mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >> Were you able to feel the bubbles? Interesting. I wonder why as it fits over >> the glass of the phone. Well, I guess I will find out. LOL. It will not >> matter to me unless it bubbles under my fingers, but it could drive a VI or >> sighted person to drink I imagine. >> On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:46 PM, george b > <mailto:gbma...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> The the glass screen protector at your carrier’s store and they will put it >> on for you. >> Note; I had one and my brother also and they both got bubbles under them so >> we took them off. >> >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 09:45 >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s) >> >> Whether you need optical image stabilization is dependent on whether you >> use the camera to take pictures. If you do, it may help. If you don't, and >> that includes even if you do OCR, it's not worth it. It will not matter. Go >> with what feels better in your hand, because if you get something it's too >> big, you will be nothing but frustrated. That is just my opinion of course. >> Where did you get the gorilla glass screen protector? >> Mary >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Regina Alvarado > <mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >> What is optical image stabilization? Sounds like nothing I would need, and I >> like the smaller feel of the 6s. Just curious to know if this is necessary. >> By your post, it sounds like it costs more too. Oh, I was able to get a >> screen protector with gorilla glass. What a difference to the touch and >> movement of the fingers. Is this the first year these protectors have been >> out? Again, curious. >> >> reggie & Lex >> >> On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Robin > <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote: >> >> I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with >> TheSameSpecs&Features with t
Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
Hi! True. But i guess we have to get use to bigger phones. In the early 2000 the phones got smaller and now suddenly they growing bigger in size again. /A > 28 sep. 2015 kl. 17:14 skrev Mary Otten : > > Anders, > I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the > same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same > dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But > I wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. > There was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that > was the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. > Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the > larger phones. > Mary > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: >> >> Hi! >> Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal >> preference so don’t be angry. >> To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod touch >> then i’d be as happy as can be. >> Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use >> that so i don’t care much about it. >> We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for english >> either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards. >> /A >>> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu : >>> >>> I like the plus size as Alex says if he needs to use the braille keyboard >>> then there is more room to spread your fingers. Partially sighted people >>> say to me that they can read the screen better. As I have no sight, I >>> can't say yes or no. >>> >>> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had started >>> with the 4 so was looking for something different. No doubt Apple will not >>> be changing the design of their phones as I don't know what they can do to >>> change them. >>> >>> Kawal. >>> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall wrote: >>> >>> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see how >>> the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, with >>> some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I carried it >>> for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. Both days, I >>> was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my hand, but small >>> in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and narrower than you >>> might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest in my pocket >>> better, and I had no problems with it the two days I tested it with my >>> model. While not an actual phone, this gave me confidence that the Plus >>> will be just fine, which is good as it's the one I was leaning towards. The >>> better battery life, larger braille input area, landscape mode for apps, >>> and image stabilization are all things I'm looking forward to. >>> >>> You can easily print out the same template I used, and carry around a >>> cardboard version of a Plus, to see how it'll work for you. Yes, it might >>> require minor adjustments in position or grip, but there are definite >>> advantages and I encourage you to consider the change to a Plus as just >>> that: a change, rather than looking for something the same size as the 5S >>> but with better internals. Of course, if the plusses don't outweigh the >>> minuses for you, there's nothing wrong with the 6S, that's why Apple makes >>> both sizes. Give the Plus a shot though; you might be pleasantly surprised. On Sep 26, 2015, at 15:15, Grant wrote: Whether something is too big or not is obviously subjective, but I do wonder how the size of the 6Plus and 6S Plus phones makes a difference in every day usage for VoiceOver users. On the plus side, perhaps for folks who use Braille screen input, the larger screen real estate you have to work with might make typing easier. On the other hand, are folks finding the phones easy to carry when out and about? Do they fit comfortably in your pockets? I use my iPhone 5S on my commutes and often I don’t even need to take it out of my pocket to use the touch screen. I have a transit widget that I check to monitor bus departure times, and I use apps like BlindSquare and Google Maps as well. And of course, I can listen to music or audiobooks while commuting, too. If I couldn’t carry the phone in my pocket and had to carry it in a backpack or briefcase, that would be quite a bit less convenient for me. How do you folks feel about this—for those who’ve used the larger phones for a year now, do you eventually adjust to the larger screen size? Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to m
Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
OIS seems to mostly help with stabilizing video, from what I've read. Holding still for a shot with an OCR app, you probably won't notice it as much. To say that Apple could include OIS in their smaller devices but chooses not to seems groundless. We don't know if they could or not, because we don't know how the cameras work. What if the Plus is the only device to offer the necessary room? What if there are other technical reasons they couldn't do it last year or this year? Apple is always close-mouthed about technical challenges, so no one has a clue what the story is. Could this be just another way to drive sales toward the larger (and more expensive) phone? Certainly, and I'm not saying it couldn't be. However, there's also no reason to say that this is absolutely the case. Other than that, what do you lose by going for the 6S over the Plus? More battery life, which is simply a consequence of not being able to cram as much battery into a smaller phone. No landscape mode for apps like Safari or Mail, which is a design decision--the smaller screen just couldn't show apps in the special landscape mode with enough room to let you operate them effectively. Remember that Apple is all about esthetics, and a bad user experience isn't worth it to them, so they will carefully evaluate things and only bring features that look good on big screens to smaller screens when they know they can do it well. Finally, you lose the extra room for app screens or braille input, which is, again, a consequence of a smaller screen. Aside from OIS, both models are the same in all but screen/battery. The same camera, amount of ram, Touch ID sensor, flash, button placement, processor/coprocessor, wireless abilities, ports, NFC chip, and so on. I guess I'm not seeing the big deal; if you don't want the Plus, the smaller iPhone 6 or 6S is still the same device, just smaller and lacking OIS. It's also $100 less. > On Sep 28, 2015, at 13:16, Regina Alvarado wrote: > > > Were you able to feel the bubbles? Interesting. I wonder why as it fits over > the glass of the phone. Well, I guess I will find out. LOL. It will not > matter to me unless it bubbles under my fingers, but it could drive a VI or > sighted person to drink I imagine. > On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:46 PM, george b <mailto:gbma...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > The the glass screen protector at your carrier’s store and they will put it > on for you. > Note; I had one and my brother also and they both got bubbles under them so > we took them off. > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 09:45 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s) > > Whether you need optical image stabilization is dependent on whether you use > the camera to take pictures. If you do, it may help. If you don't, and that > includes even if you do OCR, it's not worth it. It will not matter. Go with > what feels better in your hand, because if you get something it's too big, > you will be nothing but frustrated. That is just my opinion of course. Where > did you get the gorilla glass screen protector? > Mary > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Regina Alvarado <mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > What is optical image stabilization? Sounds like nothing I would need, and I > like the smaller feel of the 6s. Just curious to know if this is necessary. > By your post, it sounds like it costs more too. Oh, I was able to get a > screen protector with gorilla glass. What a difference to the touch and > movement of the fingers. Is this the first year these protectors have been > out? Again, curious. > > reggie & Lex > > On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Robin <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote: > > I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with > TheSameSpecs&Features with the exception of TheirSize > > If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the features of the iPhone6S+ ... > I'm specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which is > exclusively only on the iPhone6S+ > > Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge > as well as its GalaxyS6Edge+ so the only Real Difference is TheirSize > > What a Concept > > In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice > if they desire that feature, which is about $10
Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
Were you able to feel the bubbles? Interesting. I wonder why as it fits over the glass of the phone. Well, I guess I will find out. LOL. It will not matter to me unless it bubbles under my fingers, but it could drive a VI or sighted person to drink I imagine. On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:46 PM, george b wrote: The the glass screen protector at your carrier’s store and they will put it on for you. Note; I had one and my brother also and they both got bubbles under them so we took them off. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 09:45 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s) Whether you need optical image stabilization is dependent on whether you use the camera to take pictures. If you do, it may help. If you don't, and that includes even if you do OCR, it's not worth it. It will not matter. Go with what feels better in your hand, because if you get something it's too big, you will be nothing but frustrated. That is just my opinion of course. Where did you get the gorilla glass screen protector? Mary Sent from my iPhone On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Regina Alvarado wrote: What is optical image stabilization? Sounds like nothing I would need, and I like the smaller feel of the 6s. Just curious to know if this is necessary. By your post, it sounds like it costs more too. Oh, I was able to get a screen protector with gorilla glass. What a difference to the touch and movement of the fingers. Is this the first year these protectors have been out? Again, curious. reggie & Lex On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Robin wrote: I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with TheSameSpecs&Features with the exception of TheirSize If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the features of the iPhone6S+ ... I'm specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which is exclusively only on the iPhone6S+ Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge as well as its GalaxyS6Edge+ so the only Real Difference is TheirSize What a Concept In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice if they desire that feature, which is about $100 More JustSaying At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote: Anders, I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But I wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. There was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that was the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the larger phones. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal preference > so don’t be angry. > To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod touch > then i’d be as happy as can be. > Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use > that so i don’t care much about it. > We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for > english either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards. > /A >> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu : >> >> I like the plus size as Alex says if he needs to use the braille keyboard >> then there is more room to spread your fingers. Partially sighted people >> say to me that they can read the screen better. As I have no sight, I can't >> say yes or no. >> >> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had started >> with the 4 so was looking for something different. No doubt Apple will not >> be changing the design of their phones as I don't know what they can do to >> change them. >> >> Kawal. >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall wrote: >> >> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see how >> the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, with >> some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I carried it >> for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. Both days, I >> was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my hand, but small >> in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and narrower than you >> might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest in my pocket better, >> and I had no problems with i
Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
I bought it in the Sprint store. It is wonderful. I would say Amazon or other places have them, though. No more stuck fingers. In fact, I find myself tapping even lighter on the screen. Do not know why this is so, however. It just happened. It cost about 40 dollars so it is more expensive, but I will always have one. On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:44 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Whether you need optical image stabilization is dependent on whether you use the camera to take pictures. If you do, it may help. If you don't, and that includes even if you do OCR, it's not worth it. It will not matter. Go with what feels better in your hand, because if you get something it's too big, you will be nothing but frustrated. That is just my opinion of course. Where did you get the gorilla glass screen protector? Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Regina Alvarado > wrote: > > > What is optical image stabilization? Sounds like nothing I would need, and I > like the smaller feel of the 6s. Just curious to know if this is necessary. > By your post, it sounds like it costs more too. Oh, I was able to get a > screen protector with gorilla glass. What a difference to the touch and > movement of the fingers. Is this the first year these protectors have been > out? Again, curious. > > reggie & Lex > > On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Robin wrote: > > I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with > TheSameSpecs&Features with the exception of TheirSize > > If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the features of the iPhone6S+ ... > I'm specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which is > exclusively only on the iPhone6S+ > > Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge > as well as its GalaxyS6Edge+ so the only Real Difference is TheirSize > > What a Concept > > In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice > if they desire that feature, which is about $100 More > > JustSaying > At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote: >> Anders, >> I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the >> same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same >> dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But >> I wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. >> There was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that >> was the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. >> Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the >> larger phones. >> Mary >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: >> > >> > Hi! >> > Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal >> > preference so don’t be angry. >> > To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod >> > touch then i’d be as happy as can be. >> > Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use >> > that so i don’t care much about it. >> > We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for >> > english either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards. >> > /A >> >> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu : >> >> >> >> I like the plus size as Alex says if he needs to use the braille >> >> keyboard then there is more room to spread your fingers. Partially >> >> sighted people say to me that they can read the screen better. As I have >> >> no sight, I can't say yes or no. >> >> >> >> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had >> >> started with the 4 so was looking for something different. No doubt >> >> Apple will not be changing the design of their phones as I don't know >> >> what they can do to change them. >> >> >> >> Kawal. >> >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall wrote: >> >> >> >> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see >> >> how the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, >> >> with some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I >> >> carried it for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. >> >> Both days, I was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my >> >> hand, but small in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and >> >> narrower than you might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest >> >> in my pocket better, and I had no problems with it the two days I tested >> >> it with my model. While not an actual phone, this gave me confidence that >> >> the Plus will be just fine, which is good as it's the one I was leaning >> >> towards. The better battery life, larger braille input area, landscape >> >> mode for apps, and image stabilization are all things I'm looking forward >> >> to. >> >> >> >> You can easily print out the same template I used, and ca
RE: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
Lol and what does all of this have to do with the subject line -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 10:09 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s) That's not true because Nokia has that feature on its VZW (NowRetired) LumiaIcon (Lumia929) & Samsung has it on their MobilePhones since launching the GalaxyS5 & Beyond (that includes the Note Series as well as the Galaxy S Series the GalaxyS6 is about 5.1 Inches & the GalaxyS6Edge+ is about 5.7 Inches And, as I recall, the iPhone6S+ is about 5.5 Inches & the iPhone6S is about 4.7 Inches Apple could have this feature on both modles, but it chooses not to As I understand it, this feature is rumored to help in catching/viewing Video and/or taking pictures I'm sure others, who have the iPhone6+ and/or iPhone6S+ can ChimeIn on it. I am particularly interested to hear from TotallyBlind users of the iPhone6+ and/or iPhone6S+, and how it functions for them. It would be Great if they had an iPhone6 and/or iPhone6S to Compare&Contrast TheDifferences With & WithOut the Optical Image Stablization feature JustSaying At 09:48 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote: >Optical image stabilization isn't the only thing you get for that extra >hundred dollars for the 6S plus. I don't know how it is accomplished. >It is possible that they need the larger size to make it happen. I >don't know how big the Samsung phones are either. But I do know that >for me as a blind person, optical image stabilization is not necessary >or useful. >Mary > >Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Robin wrote: > > > > I think they (they being Apple) should > ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with TheSameSpecs&Features with the > exception of TheirSize > > > > If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of > the features of the iPhone6S+ ... I'm specifically Referrin'To the > Optical Image Stablization, which is exclusively only on the iPhone6S+ > > > > Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on > both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge as well as its > GalaxyS6Edge+ so the only Real Difference is TheirSize > > > > What a Concept > > > > In my opinion, Apple is requiring its > customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice if they desire that feature, > which is about $100 More > > > > JustSaying > > At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote: > >> Anders, > >> I agree with you about phone size. I really > would like to have something the same size as the 5S. The fourss, or > the iPod touch, which is the same dimensions I think as far as width > and height are concerned, are OK too. But I wish they would do > something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. There was a > rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that was > the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not > happened. Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same > features as the larger phones. > >> Mary > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> > On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders > Holmberg wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi! > >> > Well, i might say something stupid now but > this is my own personal preference so don̢۪t be angry. >. > >> > To me i really whish that if the iphone > could be as small as the ipod touch then i̢۪d be as happy as can be. >. > >> > Ofcourse this will make braille writing > nearly impossible but i never use that so i don̢۪t care much about it. >. > >> > We don̢۪t have grade 2 in swedish > anymore and we we don̢۪t learn it for english either so thats one >of tf the reasons i don̢۪t use braille keyboards. >. > >> > /A > >> >> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu : > >> >> > >> >> I like the plus size as Alex says if he > needs to use the braille keyboard then there is more room to spread > your fingers. Partially sighted people say to me that they can read > the screen better. As I have no sight, I can't say yes or no. > >> >> > >> >> I got tired of the 5S as the design > hadn't really changed and I had started with the 4 so was looking for > something different. No doubt Apple will not be changing the design > of their phones as I don't know what they can do to change them. > >> >> > >> >> Kawal. > >> >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall wrote: > >> >> > >> >> I don
Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
That's not true because Nokia has that feature on its VZW (NowRetired) LumiaIcon (Lumia929) & Samsung has it on their MobilePhones since launching the GalaxyS5 & Beyond (that includes the Note Series as well as the Galaxy S Series the GalaxyS6 is about 5.1 Inches & the GalaxyS6Edge+ is about 5.7 Inches And, as I recall, the iPhone6S+ is about 5.5 Inches & the iPhone6S is about 4.7 Inches Apple could have this feature on both modles, but it chooses not to As I understand it, this feature is rumored to help in catching/viewing Video and/or taking pictures I'm sure others, who have the iPhone6+ and/or iPhone6S+ can ChimeIn on it. I am particularly interested to hear from TotallyBlind users of the iPhone6+ and/or iPhone6S+, and how it functions for them. It would be Great if they had an iPhone6 and/or iPhone6S to Compare&Contrast TheDifferences With & WithOut the Optical Image Stablization feature JustSaying At 09:48 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote: Optical image stabilization isn't the only thing you get for that extra hundred dollars for the 6S plus. I don't know how it is accomplished. It is possible that they need the larger size to make it happen. I don't know how big the Samsung phones are either. But I do know that for me as a blind person, optical image stabilization is not necessary or useful. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Robin wrote: > > I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with TheSameSpecs&Features with the exception of TheirSize > > If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the features of the iPhone6S+ ... I'm specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which is exclusively only on the iPhone6S+ > > Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge as well as its GalaxyS6Edge+ so the only Real Difference is TheirSize > > What a Concept > > In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice if they desire that feature, which is about $100 More > > JustSaying > At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote: >> Anders, >> I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But I wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. There was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that was the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the larger phones. >> Mary >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: >> > >> > Hi! >> > Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal preference so don̢۪t be angry. . >> > To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod touch then i̢۪d be as happy as can be. . >> > Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use that so i don̢۪t care much about it. . >> > We don̢۪t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we we don̢۪t learn it for english either so thats one of tf the reasons i don̢۪t use braille keyboards. . >> > /A >> >> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu : >> >> >> >> I like the plus size as Alex says if he needs to use the braille keyboard then there is more room to spread your fingers. Partially sighted people say to me that they can read the screen better. As I have no sight, I can't say yes or no. >> >> >> >> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had started with the 4 so was looking for something different. No doubt Apple will not be changing the design of their phones as I don't know what they can do to change them. >> >> >> >> Kawal. >> >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall wrote: >> >> >> >> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see how the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, with some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I carried it for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. Both days, I was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my hand, but small in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and narrower than you might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest in my pocket better, and I had no problems with it the two days I tested it with my model. While not an actual phone, this gave me confidence that the Plus will be just fine, which is good as it's the one I was leaning towards. The better battery life, larger braille input area, landscape mode for apps, and image stabilization are all things I'm looking forward to. >> >> >> >> You can easily print out the same template I used, and carry around a cardboard version of a Plus, to see how it'll work for you. Yes, it
Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
Optical image stabilization isn't the only thing you get for that extra hundred dollars for the 6S plus. I don't know how it is accomplished. It is possible that they need the larger size to make it happen. I don't know how big the Samsung phones are either. But I do know that for me as a blind person, optical image stabilization is not necessary or useful. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Robin wrote: > > I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with > TheSameSpecs&Features with the exception of TheirSize > > If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the features of the iPhone6S+ ... > I'm specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which is > exclusively only on the iPhone6S+ > > Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge > as well as its GalaxyS6Edge+ so the only Real Difference is TheirSize > > What a Concept > > In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice > if they desire that feature, which is about $100 More > > JustSaying > At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote: >> Anders, >> I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the >> same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same >> dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But >> I wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. >> There was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that >> was the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. >> Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the >> larger phones. >> Mary >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: >> > >> > Hi! >> > Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal >> > preference so don’t be angry. >> > To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod >> > touch then i’d be as happy as can be. >> > Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use >> > that so i don’t care much about it. >> > We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for >> > english either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards. >> > /A >> >> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu : >> >> >> >> I like the plus size as Alex says if he needs to use the braille >> >> keyboard then there is more room to spread your fingers. Partially >> >> sighted people say to me that they can read the screen better. As I have >> >> no sight, I can't say yes or no. >> >> >> >> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had >> >> started with the 4 so was looking for something different. No doubt >> >> Apple will not be changing the design of their phones as I don't know >> >> what they can do to change them. >> >> >> >> Kawal. >> >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall wrote: >> >> >> >> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see >> >> how the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, >> >> with some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I >> >> carried it for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. >> >> Both days, I was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my >> >> hand, but small in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and >> >> narrower than you might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest >> >> in my pocket better, and I had no problems with it the two days I tested >> >> it with my model. While not an actual phone, this gave me confidence that >> >> the Plus will be just fine, which is good as it's the one I was leaning >> >> towards. The better battery life, larger braille input area, landscape >> >> mode for apps, and image stabilization are all things I'm looking forward >> >> to. >> >> >> >> You can easily print out the same template I used, and carry around a >> >> cardboard version of a Plus, to see how it'll work for you. Yes, it might >> >> require minor adjustments in position or grip, but there are definite >> >> advantages and I encourage you to consider the change to a Plus as just >> >> that: a change, rather than looking for something the same size as the 5S >> >> but with better internals. Of course, if the plusses don't outweigh the >> >> minuses for you, there's nothing wrong with the 6S, that's why Apple >> >> makes both sizes. Give the Plus a shot though; you might be pleasantly >> >> surprised. >> >>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 15:15, Grant wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Whether something is too big or not is obviously subjective, but I do >> >>> wonder how the size of the 6Plus and 6S Plus phones makes a difference >> >>> in every day usage for VoiceOver users. On the plus side, perhaps for >> >>> folks who use Braille screen input, the larger screen real estat
Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
My carrier store does not have glass screen protectors. That is T-Mobile. I got one for my 5S2 years ago from the Verizon store. I have seen one online made by anger, and sold from Amazon via anchor direct. I am debating whether or not I want to get another one. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:46 AM, george b wrote: > > The the glass screen protector at your carrier’s store and they will put it > on for you. > Note; I had one and my brother also and they both got bubbles under them so > we took them off. > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 09:45 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s) > > Whether you need optical image stabilization is dependent on whether you use > the camera to take pictures. If you do, it may help. If you don't, and that > includes even if you do OCR, it's not worth it. It will not matter. Go with > what feels better in your hand, because if you get something it's too big, > you will be nothing but frustrated. That is just my opinion of course. Where > did you get the gorilla glass screen protector? > Mary > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Regina Alvarado > wrote: > > > What is optical image stabilization? Sounds like nothing I would need, and I > like the smaller feel of the 6s. Just curious to know if this is necessary. > By your post, it sounds like it costs more too. Oh, I was able to get a > screen protector with gorilla glass. What a difference to the touch and > movement of the fingers. Is this the first year these protectors have been > out? Again, curious. > > reggie & Lex > > On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Robin wrote: > > I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with > TheSameSpecs&Features with the exception of TheirSize > > If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the features of the iPhone6S+ ... > I'm specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which is > exclusively only on the iPhone6S+ > > Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge > as well as its GalaxyS6Edge+ so the only Real Difference is TheirSize > > What a Concept > > In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice > if they desire that feature, which is about $100 More > > JustSaying > At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote: > > Anders, > I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the > same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same > dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But > I wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. > There was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that > was the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. > Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the > larger phones. > Mary > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > > > Hi! > > Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal > > preference so don’t be angry. > > To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod touch > > then i’d be as happy as can be. > > Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use > > that so i don’t care much about it. > > We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for > > english either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards. > > /A > >> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu : > >> > >> I like the plus size as Alex says if he needs to use the braille keyboard > >> then there is more room to spread your fingers. Partially sighted people > >> say to me that they can read the screen better. As I have no sight, I > >> can't say yes or no. > >> > >> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had > >> started with the 4 so was looking for something different. No doubt Apple > >> will not be changing the design of their phones as I don't know what they > >> can do to change them. > >> > >> Kawal. > >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall wrote: > >> > >> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see > >> how the Plus would fit into my life
RE: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
The the glass screen protector at your carrier’s store and they will put it on for you. Note; I had one and my brother also and they both got bubbles under them so we took them off. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 09:45 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s) Whether you need optical image stabilization is dependent on whether you use the camera to take pictures. If you do, it may help. If you don't, and that includes even if you do OCR, it's not worth it. It will not matter. Go with what feels better in your hand, because if you get something it's too big, you will be nothing but frustrated. That is just my opinion of course. Where did you get the gorilla glass screen protector? Mary Sent from my iPhone On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Regina Alvarado mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> > wrote: What is optical image stabilization? Sounds like nothing I would need, and I like the smaller feel of the 6s. Just curious to know if this is necessary. By your post, it sounds like it costs more too. Oh, I was able to get a screen protector with gorilla glass. What a difference to the touch and movement of the fingers. Is this the first year these protectors have been out? Again, curious. reggie & Lex On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Robin mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net> > wrote: I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with TheSameSpecs&Features with the exception of TheirSize If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the features of the iPhone6S+ ... I'm specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which is exclusively only on the iPhone6S+ Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge as well as its GalaxyS6Edge+ so the only Real Difference is TheirSize What a Concept In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice if they desire that feature, which is about $100 More JustSaying At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote: Anders, I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But I wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. There was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that was the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the larger phones. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se> > wrote: > > Hi! > Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal preference > so don’t be angry. > To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod touch > then i’d be as happy as can be. > Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use > that so i don’t care much about it. > We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for > english either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards. > /A >> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu > <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com> >: >> >> I like the plus size as Alex says if he needs to use the braille keyboard >> then there is more room to spread your fingers. Partially sighted people >> say to me that they can read the screen better. As I have no sight, I can't >> say yes or no. >> >> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had started >> with the 4 so was looking for something different. No doubt Apple will not >> be changing the design of their phones as I don't know what they can do to >> change them. >> >> Kawal. >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall > <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> > wrote: >> >> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see how >> the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, with >> some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I carried it >> for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. Both days, I >> was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my hand, but small >> in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and narrower than you >> might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest in my pocket better, >> and I had no problems with it the two days I tested it with my model. While >> not an actual phone,
Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
Whether you need optical image stabilization is dependent on whether you use the camera to take pictures. If you do, it may help. If you don't, and that includes even if you do OCR, it's not worth it. It will not matter. Go with what feels better in your hand, because if you get something it's too big, you will be nothing but frustrated. That is just my opinion of course. Where did you get the gorilla glass screen protector? Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Regina Alvarado > wrote: > > > What is optical image stabilization? Sounds like nothing I would need, and I > like the smaller feel of the 6s. Just curious to know if this is necessary. > By your post, it sounds like it costs more too. Oh, I was able to get a > screen protector with gorilla glass. What a difference to the touch and > movement of the fingers. Is this the first year these protectors have been > out? Again, curious. > > reggie & Lex > > On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Robin wrote: > > I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with > TheSameSpecs&Features with the exception of TheirSize > > If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the features of the iPhone6S+ ... > I'm specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which is > exclusively only on the iPhone6S+ > > Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge > as well as its GalaxyS6Edge+ so the only Real Difference is TheirSize > > What a Concept > > In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice > if they desire that feature, which is about $100 More > > JustSaying > At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote: >> Anders, >> I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the >> same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same >> dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But >> I wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. >> There was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that >> was the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. >> Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the >> larger phones. >> Mary >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: >> > >> > Hi! >> > Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal >> > preference so don’t be angry. >> > To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod >> > touch then i’d be as happy as can be. >> > Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use >> > that so i don’t care much about it. >> > We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for >> > english either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards. >> > /A >> >> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu : >> >> >> >> I like the plus size as Alex says if he needs to use the braille >> >> keyboard then there is more room to spread your fingers. Partially >> >> sighted people say to me that they can read the screen better. As I have >> >> no sight, I can't say yes or no. >> >> >> >> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had >> >> started with the 4 so was looking for something different. No doubt >> >> Apple will not be changing the design of their phones as I don't know >> >> what they can do to change them. >> >> >> >> Kawal. >> >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall wrote: >> >> >> >> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see >> >> how the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, >> >> with some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I >> >> carried it for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. >> >> Both days, I was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my >> >> hand, but small in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and >> >> narrower than you might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest >> >> in my pocket better, and I had no problems with it the two days I tested >> >> it with my model. While not an actual phone, this gave me confidence that >> >> the Plus will be just fine, which is good as it's the one I was leaning >> >> towards. The better battery life, larger braille input area, landscape >> >> mode for apps, and image stabilization are all things I'm looking forward >> >> to. >> >> >> >> You can easily print out the same template I used, and carry around a >> >> cardboard version of a Plus, to see how it'll work for you. Yes, it might >> >> require minor adjustments in position or grip, but there are definite >> >> advantages and I encourage you to consider the change to a Plus as just >> >> that: a change, rather than looking for something the same size as the 5S >> >> but with better internals. Of course,
Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
What is optical image stabilization? Sounds like nothing I would need, and I like the smaller feel of the 6s. Just curious to know if this is necessary. By your post, it sounds like it costs more too. Oh, I was able to get a screen protector with gorilla glass. What a difference to the touch and movement of the fingers. Is this the first year these protectors have been out? Again, curious. reggie & Lex On Sep 28, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Robin wrote: I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with TheSameSpecs&Features with the exception of TheirSize If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the features of the iPhone6S+ ... I'm specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which is exclusively only on the iPhone6S+ Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge as well as its GalaxyS6Edge+ so the only Real Difference is TheirSize What a Concept In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice if they desire that feature, which is about $100 More JustSaying At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote: > Anders, > I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the > same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same > dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But > I wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. > There was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that > was the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. > Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the > larger phones. > Mary > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > > > Hi! > > Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal > > preference so don’t be angry. > > To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod touch > > then i’d be as happy as can be. > > Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use > > that so i don’t care much about it. > > We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for > > english either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards. > > /A > >> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu : > >> > >> I like the plus size as Alex says if he needs to use the braille keyboard > >> then there is more room to spread your fingers. Partially sighted people > >> say to me that they can read the screen better. As I have no sight, I > >> can't say yes or no. > >> > >> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had > >> started with the 4 so was looking for something different. No doubt Apple > >> will not be changing the design of their phones as I don't know what they > >> can do to change them. > >> > >> Kawal. > >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall wrote: > >> > >> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see > >> how the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, > >> with some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I > >> carried it for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. > >> Both days, I was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my > >> hand, but small in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and > >> narrower than you might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest > >> in my pocket better, and I had no problems with it the two days I tested > >> it with my model. While not an actual phone, this gave me confidence that > >> the Plus will be just fine, which is good as it's the one I was leaning > >> towards. The better battery life, larger braille input area, landscape > >> mode for apps, and image stabilization are all things I'm looking forward > >> to. > >> > >> You can easily print out the same template I used, and carry around a > >> cardboard version of a Plus, to see how it'll work for you. Yes, it might > >> require minor adjustments in position or grip, but there are definite > >> advantages and I encourage you to consider the change to a Plus as just > >> that: a change, rather than looking for something the same size as the 5S > >> but with better internals. Of course, if the plusses don't outweigh the > >> minuses for you, there's nothing wrong with the 6S, that's why Apple makes > >> both sizes. Give the Plus a shot though; you might be pleasantly surprised. > >>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 15:15, Grant wrote: > >>> > >>> Whether something is too big or not is obviously subjective, but I do > >>> wonder how the size of the 6Plus and 6S Plus phones makes a difference in > >>> every day usage for VoiceOver users. On the plus side, perhaps for folks > >>> who use Braille screen input, the larger screen real estate you have to > >>> work with might make typing easier. On the other hand, are folks fi
Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
I think they (they being Apple) should ComeOut with a couple of iPhones with TheSameSpecs&Features with the exception of TheirSize If Apple had an iPhone6S, which had all of the features of the iPhone6S+ ... I'm specifically Referrin'To the Optical Image Stablization, which is exclusively only on the iPhone6S+ Samsung offers Optical Image Stablization on both its GalaxyS6 & GalaxyS6Edge as well as its GalaxyS6Edge+ so the only Real Difference is TheirSize What a Concept In my opinion, Apple is requiring its customers ToPurchase the LargerDevice if they desire that feature, which is about $100 More JustSaying At 08:14 AM 9/28/2015, you wrote: Anders, I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But I wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. There was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that was the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the larger phones. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal preference so don’t be angry. > To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod touch then i’d be as happy as can be. > Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use that so i don’t care much about it. > We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for english either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards. > /A >> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu : >> >> I like the plus size as Alex says if he needs to use the braille keyboard then there is more room to spread your fingers. Partially sighted people say to me that they can read the screen better. As I have no sight, I can't say yes or no. >> >> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had started with the 4 so was looking for something different. No doubt Apple will not be changing the design of their phones as I don't know what they can do to change them. >> >> Kawal. >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall wrote: >> >> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see how the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, with some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I carried it for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. Both days, I was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my hand, but small in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and narrower than you might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest in my pocket better, and I had no problems with it the two days I tested it with my model. While not an actual phone, this gave me confidence that the Plus will be just fine, which is good as it's the one I was leaning towards. The better battery life, larger braille input area, landscape mode for apps, and image stabilization are all things I'm looking forward to. >> >> You can easily print out the same template I used, and carry around a cardboard version of a Plus, to see how it'll work for you. Yes, it might require minor adjustments in position or grip, but there are definite advantages and I encourage you to consider the change to a Plus as just that: a change, rather than looking for something the same size as the 5S but with better internals. Of course, if the plusses don't outweigh the minuses for you, there's nothing wrong with the 6S, that's why Apple makes both sizes. Give the Plus a shot though; you might be pleasantly surprised. >>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 15:15, Grant wrote: >>> >>> Whether something is too big or not is obviously subjective, but I do wonder how the size of the 6Plus and 6S Plus phones makes a difference in every day usage for VoiceOver users. On the plus side, perhaps for folks who use Braille screen input, the larger screen real estate you have to work with might make typing easier. On the other hand, are folks finding the phones easy to carry when out and about? Do they fit comfortably in your pockets? I use my iPhone 5S on my commutes and often I don’t even need to take it out of my pocket to use the touch screen. I have a transit widget that I check to monitor bus departure times, and I use apps like BlindSquare and Google Maps as well. And of course, I can listen to music or audiobooks while commuting, too. If I couldn’t carry the phone in my pocket and had to carry it in a backpack or briefcase, that would be quite a bit less convenient for me. How do you folks feel about this—for those wwho’ve used the larger phones for a year now, do y
Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
Anders, I agree with you about phone size. I really would like to have something the same size as the 5S. The fourss, or the iPod touch, which is the same dimensions I think as far as width and height are concerned, are OK too. But I wish they would do something for those of us with smaller hands. Oh well. There was a rumor that said they were going to come out with a new one that was the same size as the 5S. But so far, as you know that has not happened. Plus, if they do, it probably won't have all of the same features as the larger phones. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:07 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal preference > so don’t be angry. > To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod touch > then i’d be as happy as can be. > Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use > that so i don’t care much about it. > We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for english > either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards. > /A >> 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu : >> >> I like the plus size as Alex says if he needs to use the braille keyboard >> then there is more room to spread your fingers. Partially sighted people >> say to me that they can read the screen better. As I have no sight, I can't >> say yes or no. >> >> I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had started >> with the 4 so was looking for something different. No doubt Apple will not >> be changing the design of their phones as I don't know what they can do to >> change them. >> >> Kawal. >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall wrote: >> >> I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see how >> the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, with >> some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I carried it >> for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. Both days, I >> was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my hand, but small >> in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and narrower than you >> might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest in my pocket better, >> and I had no problems with it the two days I tested it with my model. While >> not an actual phone, this gave me confidence that the Plus will be just >> fine, which is good as it's the one I was leaning towards. The better >> battery life, larger braille input area, landscape mode for apps, and image >> stabilization are all things I'm looking forward to. >> >> You can easily print out the same template I used, and carry around a >> cardboard version of a Plus, to see how it'll work for you. Yes, it might >> require minor adjustments in position or grip, but there are definite >> advantages and I encourage you to consider the change to a Plus as just >> that: a change, rather than looking for something the same size as the 5S >> but with better internals. Of course, if the plusses don't outweigh the >> minuses for you, there's nothing wrong with the 6S, that's why Apple makes >> both sizes. Give the Plus a shot though; you might be pleasantly surprised. >>> On Sep 26, 2015, at 15:15, Grant wrote: >>> >>> Whether something is too big or not is obviously subjective, but I do >>> wonder how the size of the 6Plus and 6S Plus phones makes a difference in >>> every day usage for VoiceOver users. On the plus side, perhaps for folks >>> who use Braille screen input, the larger screen real estate you have to >>> work with might make typing easier. On the other hand, are folks finding >>> the phones easy to carry when out and about? Do they fit comfortably in >>> your pockets? I use my iPhone 5S on my commutes and often I don’t even need >>> to take it out of my pocket to use the touch screen. I have a transit >>> widget that I check to monitor bus departure times, and I use apps like >>> BlindSquare and Google Maps as well. And of course, I can listen to music >>> or audiobooks while commuting, too. If I couldn’t carry the phone in my >>> pocket and had to carry it in a backpack or briefcase, that would be quite >>> a bit less convenient for me. How do you folks feel about this—for those >>> who’ve used the larger phones for a year now, do you eventually adjust to >>> the larger screen size? >>> >>> Grant >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> Have a great day, >> Alex Hall >>
Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
Hi! Well, i might say something stupid now but this is my own personal preference so don’t be angry. To me i really whish that if the iphone could be as small as the ipod touch then i’d be as happy as can be. Ofcourse this will make braille writing nearly impossible but i never use that so i don’t care much about it. We don’t have grade 2 in swedish anymore and we don’t learn it for english either so thats one of the reasons i don’t use braille keyboards. /A > 27 sep. 2015 kl. 14:03 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu : > > I like the plus size as Alex says if he needs to use the braille keyboard > then there is more room to spread your fingers. Partially sighted people say > to me that they can read the screen better. As I have no sight, I can't say > yes or no. > > I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had started > with the 4 so was looking for something different. No doubt Apple will not > be changing the design of their phones as I don't know what they can do to > change them. > > Kawal. > On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall wrote: > > I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see how > the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, with > some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I carried it for > a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. Both days, I was > amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my hand, but small in my > pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and narrower than you might > imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest in my pocket better, and I > had no problems with it the two days I tested it with my model. While not an > actual phone, this gave me confidence that the Plus will be just fine, which > is good as it's the one I was leaning towards. The better battery life, > larger braille input area, landscape mode for apps, and image stabilization > are all things I'm looking forward to. > > You can easily print out the same template I used, and carry around a > cardboard version of a Plus, to see how it'll work for you. Yes, it might > require minor adjustments in position or grip, but there are definite > advantages and I encourage you to consider the change to a Plus as just that: > a change, rather than looking for something the same size as the 5S but with > better internals. Of course, if the plusses don't outweigh the minuses for > you, there's nothing wrong with the 6S, that's why Apple makes both sizes. > Give the Plus a shot though; you might be pleasantly surprised. >> On Sep 26, 2015, at 15:15, Grant wrote: >> >> Whether something is too big or not is obviously subjective, but I do wonder >> how the size of the 6Plus and 6S Plus phones makes a difference in every day >> usage for VoiceOver users. On the plus side, perhaps for folks who use >> Braille screen input, the larger screen real estate you have to work with >> might make typing easier. On the other hand, are folks finding the phones >> easy to carry when out and about? Do they fit comfortably in your pockets? I >> use my iPhone 5S on my commutes and often I don’t even need to take it out >> of my pocket to use the touch screen. I have a transit widget that I check >> to monitor bus departure times, and I use apps like BlindSquare and Google >> Maps as well. And of course, I can listen to music or audiobooks while >> commuting, too. If I couldn’t carry the phone in my pocket and had to carry >> it in a backpack or briefcase, that would be quite a bit less convenient for >> me. How do you folks feel about this—for those who’ve used the larger phones >> for a year now, do you eventually adjust to the larger screen size? >> >> Grant >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex Hall > mehg...@icloud.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this gr
Re: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s
Hi! Yes its in the eu. Well i might try it later to day. /A > 27 sep. 2015 kl. 13:55 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu : > > You could call the UK online store as they say they serve Europe as they are > based in Ireland Cork. We have to call that store if we want to order > online. I think Sweden is in the EU? > On 26 Sep 2015, at 23:29, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > No i don’t know anything about it. > I wonder if one could order from the uk and get it to sweden? > /A >> 26 sep. 2015 kl. 20:34 skrev Krister Ekstrom : >> >> Hi Anders, >> Have you heard anything about when the iPhone 6S and 6S+ will be available >> here in Sweden? >> /Krister >> >>> 26 sep. 2015 kl. 20:17 skrev Anders Holmberg : >>> >>> Hi! >>> I am about to order an iphone 6s. >>> However is it very big? >>> I have seen the iphone 6 plus and that one is to big for me. >>> I don’t see no reason for a blind using a 6 plus or 6splus. >>> But i guess thats just my thoughts. >>> No judgement behind it. >>> /A 26 sep. 2015 kl. 03:34 skrev Mary Otten : Hi all, I just got my new 6S today, and it seems to me that the quality of the speaker is a bit better. Bye better, I guess I should say, there seems to be more base. I assume this is because of the larger size of the phone. I noticed the same thing on my friends six as compared to my 5S. Mary Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
You wanna know what Apple WillDo ToChange TheLook of its iPhones ... simply Look at TheDesign of Samsung's GalaxyS6Edge & GalaxyS6Edge+ I'm specifically Referrin'To the CurvedEdges Apple appeared to Copy the Placement of the PowerKey by MovingIt from the TopCenter-Right to the RightSide as illustrated on Samsung'sGalaxy MobilePhones beginning with the GalaxyS5 MayBe even the GalaxyS4 I'm not sure if Apple will do this, I just simply predicting it will happenn BasedOn PastExploits At 05:03 AM 9/27/2015, you wrote: I like the plus size as Alex says if he needs to use the braille keyboard then there is more room to spread your fingers. Partially sighted people say to me that they can read the screen better. As I have no sight, I can't say yes or no. I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had started with the 4 so was looking for something different. No doubt Apple will not be changing the design of their phones as I don't know what they can do to change them. Kawal. On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall wrote: I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see how the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, with some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I carried it for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. Both days, I was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my hand, but small in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and narrower than you might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest in my pocket better, and I had no problems with it the two days I tested it with my model. While not an actual phone, this gave me confidence that the Plus will be just fine, which is good as it's the one I was leaning towards. The better battery life, larger braille input area, landscape mode for apps, and image stabilization are all things I'm looking forward to. You can easily print out the same template I used, and carry around a cardboard version of a Plus, to see how it'll work for you. Yes, it might require minor adjustments in position or grip, but there are definite advantages and I encourage you to consider the change to a Plus as just that: a change, rather than looking for something the same size as the 5S but with better internals. Of course, if the plusses don't outweigh the minuses for you, there's nothing wrong with the 6S, that's why Apple makes both sizes. Give the Plus a shot though; you might be pleasantly surprised. > On Sep 26, 2015, at 15:15, Grant wrote: > > Whether something is too big or not is obviously subjective, but I do wonder how the size of the 6Plus and 6S Plus phones makes a difference in every day usage for VoiceOver users. On the plus side, perhaps for folks who use Braille screen input, the larger screen real estate you have to work with might make typing easier. On the other hand, are folks finding the phones easy to carry when out and about? Do they fit comfortably in your pockets? I use my iPhone 5S on my commutes and often I don’t even need to take it out of my pocket to use the touch screen. I have a transit widget that I check to monitor bus departure times, and I use apps like BlindSquare and Google Maps as well. And of course, I can listen to music or audiobooks while commuting, too. If I couldn’t carry the phone in my pocket and had to carry it in a backpack or briefcase, that would be quite a bit less convenient for me. How do you folks feel about this—for those whoo’ve used the larger phones for a year now, do you eventually adjust to the larger screen size? > > Grant > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. Fo
Re: size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
I like the plus size as Alex says if he needs to use the braille keyboard then there is more room to spread your fingers. Partially sighted people say to me that they can read the screen better. As I have no sight, I can't say yes or no. I got tired of the 5S as the design hadn't really changed and I had started with the 4 so was looking for something different. No doubt Apple will not be changing the design of their phones as I don't know what they can do to change them. Kawal. On 26 Sep 2015, at 21:15, Alex Hall wrote: I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see how the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, with some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I carried it for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. Both days, I was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my hand, but small in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and narrower than you might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest in my pocket better, and I had no problems with it the two days I tested it with my model. While not an actual phone, this gave me confidence that the Plus will be just fine, which is good as it's the one I was leaning towards. The better battery life, larger braille input area, landscape mode for apps, and image stabilization are all things I'm looking forward to. You can easily print out the same template I used, and carry around a cardboard version of a Plus, to see how it'll work for you. Yes, it might require minor adjustments in position or grip, but there are definite advantages and I encourage you to consider the change to a Plus as just that: a change, rather than looking for something the same size as the 5S but with better internals. Of course, if the plusses don't outweigh the minuses for you, there's nothing wrong with the 6S, that's why Apple makes both sizes. Give the Plus a shot though; you might be pleasantly surprised. > On Sep 26, 2015, at 15:15, Grant wrote: > > Whether something is too big or not is obviously subjective, but I do wonder > how the size of the 6Plus and 6S Plus phones makes a difference in every day > usage for VoiceOver users. On the plus side, perhaps for folks who use > Braille screen input, the larger screen real estate you have to work with > might make typing easier. On the other hand, are folks finding the phones > easy to carry when out and about? Do they fit comfortably in your pockets? I > use my iPhone 5S on my commutes and often I don’t even need to take it out of > my pocket to use the touch screen. I have a transit widget that I check to > monitor bus departure times, and I use apps like BlindSquare and Google Maps > as well. And of course, I can listen to music or audiobooks while commuting, > too. If I couldn’t carry the phone in my pocket and had to carry it in a > backpack or briefcase, that would be quite a bit less convenient for me. How > do you folks feel about this—for those who’ve used the larger phones for a > year now, do you eventually adjust to the larger screen size? > > Grant > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s
You could call the UK online store as they say they serve Europe as they are based in Ireland Cork. We have to call that store if we want to order online. I think Sweden is in the EU? On 26 Sep 2015, at 23:29, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! No i don’t know anything about it. I wonder if one could order from the uk and get it to sweden? /A > 26 sep. 2015 kl. 20:34 skrev Krister Ekstrom : > > Hi Anders, > Have you heard anything about when the iPhone 6S and 6S+ will be available > here in Sweden? > /Krister > >> 26 sep. 2015 kl. 20:17 skrev Anders Holmberg : >> >> Hi! >> I am about to order an iphone 6s. >> However is it very big? >> I have seen the iphone 6 plus and that one is to big for me. >> I don’t see no reason for a blind using a 6 plus or 6splus. >> But i guess thats just my thoughts. >> No judgement behind it. >> /A >>> 26 sep. 2015 kl. 03:34 skrev Mary Otten : >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I just got my new 6S today, and it seems to me that the quality of the >>> speaker is a bit better. Bye better, I guess I should say, there seems to >>> be more base. I assume this is because of the larger size of the phone. I >>> noticed the same thing on my friends six as compared to my 5S. >>> Mary >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s
Hi! No i don’t know anything about it. I wonder if one could order from the uk and get it to sweden? /A > 26 sep. 2015 kl. 20:34 skrev Krister Ekstrom : > > Hi Anders, > Have you heard anything about when the iPhone 6S and 6S+ will be available > here in Sweden? > /Krister > >> 26 sep. 2015 kl. 20:17 skrev Anders Holmberg : >> >> Hi! >> I am about to order an iphone 6s. >> However is it very big? >> I have seen the iphone 6 plus and that one is to big for me. >> I don’t see no reason for a blind using a 6 plus or 6splus. >> But i guess thats just my thoughts. >> No judgement behind it. >> /A >>> 26 sep. 2015 kl. 03:34 skrev Mary Otten : >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I just got my new 6S today, and it seems to me that the quality of the >>> speaker is a bit better. Bye better, I guess I should say, there seems to >>> be more base. I assume this is because of the larger size of the phone. I >>> noticed the same thing on my friends six as compared to my 5S. >>> Mary >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
size of the Plus (was: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s)
I don't yet have one, but in preparation for upgrading, I wanted to see how the Plus would fit into my life. I have a cardboard cutout of a Plus, with some popsicle sticks taped to the back to give it structure. I carried it for a day, then attached my iPhone 5 to it for the next day. Both days, I was amazed to find that the cardboard Plus felt large in my hand, but small in my pocket. It's very thin and light, and is longer and narrower than you might imagine. Not being a more boxy shape lets it rest in my pocket better, and I had no problems with it the two days I tested it with my model. While not an actual phone, this gave me confidence that the Plus will be just fine, which is good as it's the one I was leaning towards. The better battery life, larger braille input area, landscape mode for apps, and image stabilization are all things I'm looking forward to. You can easily print out the same template I used, and carry around a cardboard version of a Plus, to see how it'll work for you. Yes, it might require minor adjustments in position or grip, but there are definite advantages and I encourage you to consider the change to a Plus as just that: a change, rather than looking for something the same size as the 5S but with better internals. Of course, if the plusses don't outweigh the minuses for you, there's nothing wrong with the 6S, that's why Apple makes both sizes. Give the Plus a shot though; you might be pleasantly surprised. > On Sep 26, 2015, at 15:15, Grant wrote: > > Whether something is too big or not is obviously subjective, but I do wonder > how the size of the 6Plus and 6S Plus phones makes a difference in every day > usage for VoiceOver users. On the plus side, perhaps for folks who use > Braille screen input, the larger screen real estate you have to work with > might make typing easier. On the other hand, are folks finding the phones > easy to carry when out and about? Do they fit comfortably in your pockets? I > use my iPhone 5S on my commutes and often I don’t even need to take it out of > my pocket to use the touch screen. I have a transit widget that I check to > monitor bus departure times, and I use apps like BlindSquare and Google Maps > as well. And of course, I can listen to music or audiobooks while commuting, > too. If I couldn’t carry the phone in my pocket and had to carry it in a > backpack or briefcase, that would be quite a bit less convenient for me. How > do you folks feel about this—for those who’ve used the larger phones for a > year now, do you eventually adjust to the larger screen size? > > Grant > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s
Whether something is too big or not is obviously subjective, but I do wonder how the size of the 6Plus and 6S Plus phones makes a difference in every day usage for VoiceOver users. On the plus side, perhaps for folks who use Braille screen input, the larger screen real estate you have to work with might make typing easier. On the other hand, are folks finding the phones easy to carry when out and about? Do they fit comfortably in your pockets? I use my iPhone 5S on my commutes and often I don’t even need to take it out of my pocket to use the touch screen. I have a transit widget that I check to monitor bus departure times, and I use apps like BlindSquare and Google Maps as well. And of course, I can listen to music or audiobooks while commuting, too. If I couldn’t carry the phone in my pocket and had to carry it in a backpack or briefcase, that would be quite a bit less convenient for me. How do you folks feel about this—for those who’ve used the larger phones for a year now, do you eventually adjust to the larger screen size? Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s
Hi Anders, Have you heard anything about when the iPhone 6S and 6S+ will be available here in Sweden? /Krister > 26 sep. 2015 kl. 20:17 skrev Anders Holmberg : > > Hi! > I am about to order an iphone 6s. > However is it very big? > I have seen the iphone 6 plus and that one is to big for me. > I don’t see no reason for a blind using a 6 plus or 6splus. > But i guess thats just my thoughts. > No judgement behind it. > /A >> 26 sep. 2015 kl. 03:34 skrev Mary Otten : >> >> Hi all, >> I just got my new 6S today, and it seems to me that the quality of the >> speaker is a bit better. Bye better, I guess I should say, there seems to be >> more base. I assume this is because of the larger size of the phone. I >> noticed the same thing on my friends six as compared to my 5S. >> Mary >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s
It's definitely just your thought, yes, as I have a 6+, and I wouldn't ask for anything smaller. I have a 5S as well as a backup phone, and to me, that thing feels dinky in my hand. It just feels really really teeny. Kind of reminds me of holding an old cassette tape in my hand. E! Yikes! Chris. - Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg" To: Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 2:17 PM Subject: Re: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s Hi! I am about to order an iphone 6s. However is it very big? I have seen the iphone 6 plus and that one is to big for me. I don’t see no reason for a blind using a 6 plus or 6splus. But i guess thats just my thoughts. No judgement behind it. /A 26 sep. 2015 kl. 03:34 skrev Mary Otten : Hi all, I just got my new 6S today, and it seems to me that the quality of the speaker is a bit better. Bye better, I guess I should say, there seems to be more base. I assume this is because of the larger size of the phone. I noticed the same thing on my friends six as compared to my 5S. Mary Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s
If you have seen the iPhone 6, the 6S is a sensually the same. There is apparently a very minor difference, but unless you held the two phones right together, you would not know it. I agree, that the 6+ is too large at least for me. I know many people like it because of the bigger battery. But the size is a dealbreaker in my opinion. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 26, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > I am about to order an iphone 6s. > However is it very big? > I have seen the iphone 6 plus and that one is to big for me. > I don’t see no reason for a blind using a 6 plus or 6splus. > But i guess thats just my thoughts. > No judgement behind it. > /A >> 26 sep. 2015 kl. 03:34 skrev Mary Otten : >> >> Hi all, >> I just got my new 6S today, and it seems to me that the quality of the >> speaker is a bit better. Bye better, I guess I should say, there seems to be >> more base. I assume this is because of the larger size of the phone. I >> noticed the same thing on my friends six as compared to my 5S. >> Mary >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Improved speaker on iPhone 6s
Hi! I am about to order an iphone 6s. However is it very big? I have seen the iphone 6 plus and that one is to big for me. I don’t see no reason for a blind using a 6 plus or 6splus. But i guess thats just my thoughts. No judgement behind it. /A > 26 sep. 2015 kl. 03:34 skrev Mary Otten : > > Hi all, > I just got my new 6S today, and it seems to me that the quality of the > speaker is a bit better. Bye better, I guess I should say, there seems to be > more base. I assume this is because of the larger size of the phone. I > noticed the same thing on my friends six as compared to my 5S. > Mary > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Improved speaker on iPhone 6s
Hi all, I just got my new 6S today, and it seems to me that the quality of the speaker is a bit better. Bye better, I guess I should say, there seems to be more base. I assume this is because of the larger size of the phone. I noticed the same thing on my friends six as compared to my 5S. Mary Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: speaker on iPhone
Hi, this is weird. The proximity sensor has nothing to do with light. You can be in a pitch black room, take the phone from your face, and it should switch to speaker phone if you are using voiceover. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Dec 20, 2011, at 5:48 AM, Gigi wrote: > Ok, after this, I guess I'm done with this subject here. My husband and I > just discovered something which some of us need to know about. Apparently, > the phone needs light to do this because I guess it's using the camera next > to your face to know it's up there. After Kevin's suggestion, we cleaned the > ear thing and also the camera lens. Then we did a test with screen curtain > on. Guess what, if the light is low (which of course yours truly would never > know about), then it doesn't work. My husband, after we turned screen curtain > on, went into a dark place. It didn't work in the dark place, but did in the > light. So, I guess you can, if you don't want it to work, just turn screen > curtain on. If you do want it to work, turn it off so it can get some light > from the screen. > > Regards, > Gigi > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 20, 2011, at 4:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> WOw! I honestly don't get it either. I have had very good luck with Apple >> Care and pretty good luck with the folks in the store. Personally you can >> call it what you will, but I'm thrilled with 98% of the features, >> experience, and so forth with the APple products I own. I of course >> understand that all is not perfect, but let me make some observations here >> that are based on experience. >> 1. SOme of the problems people encounter are of their own making. In other >> words they simply have not learned how to use a feature or do not understand >> some aspect of the product. Hey not a negative statement, but instead just >> fact. SOmetimes this is just a result of not having read any information and >> only basing assumptions on what they have read on an e-mail list, which are >> not the only source of information. >> 2. Third-party apps can cause problems and may impact operations of the >> device. In fact several applications that are installed can mess things up. >> WHy? Hell who knows, but it simply is possible. I have seen this with folks >> who could not get the screen curtain to activate when VO was turned on, poor >> battery life, and so forth. Hey, Apple does the best it can to ensure apps >> do not cause problems, but reality is that you can have the perfect storm on >> your device. >> 3. User error. Yes people do make mistakes and that is apparent by some of >> the questions I have seen posted here and on the VI Phone list. Hey it is ok >> to be wrong and ok to make mistakes. However, it helps to have read the >> manual and understand how features work and what could affect the operation >> of a feature. I realize thread is more about the speakerphone; however, this >> applies across the board. >> >> Now as far as the speakerphone I may be recalling incorrectly, but it seems >> to me that you can toggle the speakerphone such that removing it from your >> face will keep the call on the earpiece and not the speakerphone. Of course >> I'd also ask the question if the phone is in a case and perhaps the >> proximity sensor is being blocked. Lots of possibilities. Oh and one final >> note, the APple Care folks are not actually APple employees unless something >> has changed recently. THey actually work for a vendor that provides support >> services. I only found that out because I had a chat with one of the support >> folks and he said something he probably should not have said and I got him >> to tell me. :) >> >> On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:22 PM, James Mannion wrote: >> >>> I have never heard of or experienced this change. Taking it away from > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speaker on iPhone
Ok, after this, I guess I'm done with this subject here. My husband and I just discovered something which some of us need to know about. Apparently, the phone needs light to do this because I guess it's using the camera next to your face to know it's up there. After Kevin's suggestion, we cleaned the ear thing and also the camera lens. Then we did a test with screen curtain on. Guess what, if the light is low (which of course yours truly would never know about), then it doesn't work. My husband, after we turned screen curtain on, went into a dark place. It didn't work in the dark place, but did in the light. So, I guess you can, if you don't want it to work, just turn screen curtain on. If you do want it to work, turn it off so it can get some light from the screen. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Dec 20, 2011, at 4:28 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > WOw! I honestly don't get it either. I have had very good luck with Apple > Care and pretty good luck with the folks in the store. Personally you can > call it what you will, but I'm thrilled with 98% of the features, experience, > and so forth with the APple products I own. I of course understand that all > is not perfect, but let me make some observations here that are based on > experience. > 1. SOme of the problems people encounter are of their own making. In other > words they simply have not learned how to use a feature or do not understand > some aspect of the product. Hey not a negative statement, but instead just > fact. SOmetimes this is just a result of not having read any information and > only basing assumptions on what they have read on an e-mail list, which are > not the only source of information. > 2. Third-party apps can cause problems and may impact operations of the > device. In fact several applications that are installed can mess things up. > WHy? Hell who knows, but it simply is possible. I have seen this with folks > who could not get the screen curtain to activate when VO was turned on, poor > battery life, and so forth. Hey, Apple does the best it can to ensure apps do > not cause problems, but reality is that you can have the perfect storm on > your device. > 3. User error. Yes people do make mistakes and that is apparent by some of > the questions I have seen posted here and on the VI Phone list. Hey it is ok > to be wrong and ok to make mistakes. However, it helps to have read the > manual and understand how features work and what could affect the operation > of a feature. I realize thread is more about the speakerphone; however, this > applies across the board. > > Now as far as the speakerphone I may be recalling incorrectly, but it seems > to me that you can toggle the speakerphone such that removing it from your > face will keep the call on the earpiece and not the speakerphone. Of course > I'd also ask the question if the phone is in a case and perhaps the proximity > sensor is being blocked. Lots of possibilities. Oh and one final note, the > APple Care folks are not actually APple employees unless something has > changed recently. THey actually work for a vendor that provides support > services. I only found that out because I had a chat with one of the support > folks and he said something he probably should not have said and I got him to > tell me. :) > > On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:22 PM, James Mannion wrote: > >> I have never heard of or experienced this change. Taking it away from -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speaker on iPhone
WOw! I honestly don't get it either. I have had very good luck with Apple Care and pretty good luck with the folks in the store. Personally you can call it what you will, but I'm thrilled with 98% of the features, experience, and so forth with the APple products I own. I of course understand that all is not perfect, but let me make some observations here that are based on experience. 1. SOme of the problems people encounter are of their own making. In other words they simply have not learned how to use a feature or do not understand some aspect of the product. Hey not a negative statement, but instead just fact. SOmetimes this is just a result of not having read any information and only basing assumptions on what they have read on an e-mail list, which are not the only source of information. 2. Third-party apps can cause problems and may impact operations of the device. In fact several applications that are installed can mess things up. WHy? Hell who knows, but it simply is possible. I have seen this with folks who could not get the screen curtain to activate when VO was turned on, poor battery life, and so forth. Hey, Apple does the best it can to ensure apps do not cause problems, but reality is that you can have the perfect storm on your device. 3. User error. Yes people do make mistakes and that is apparent by some of the questions I have seen posted here and on the VI Phone list. Hey it is ok to be wrong and ok to make mistakes. However, it helps to have read the manual and understand how features work and what could affect the operation of a feature. I realize thread is more about the speakerphone; however, this applies across the board. Now as far as the speakerphone I may be recalling incorrectly, but it seems to me that you can toggle the speakerphone such that removing it from your face will keep the call on the earpiece and not the speakerphone. Of course I'd also ask the question if the phone is in a case and perhaps the proximity sensor is being blocked. Lots of possibilities. Oh and one final note, the APple Care folks are not actually APple employees unless something has changed recently. THey actually work for a vendor that provides support services. I only found that out because I had a chat with one of the support folks and he said something he probably should not have said and I got him to tell me. :) On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:22 PM, James Mannion wrote: > I have never heard of or experienced this change. Taking it away from > my ear has been the way to put it in speaker mode, even after SIRI > arrived. Apple care doesn't even know how speaker phone works? > Sometimes I really truely just don't get it. Their in store people > know nothing half the time, their apple care doesn't even know basic > stuff and more often than not they really don't know how to resolve > your problem or even as much as you did when you called. They release > things full of bugs in major functionality all the time and everyone > worships their every move. I really truely love and appreciate the > accessibility they provide, but I really just don't get this other > stuff. > > On 12/19/11, Jeff Berwick wrote: >> I believe the correct way to make the phone go into speaker phone is to take >> the phone away from your ear and hold it as if it was sitting on a table. >> I.e. flat. It then thinks it is resting on a table and will go into speaker >> phone mode. >> >> Hth, >> Jeff >> >> On 2011-12-19, at 6:55 PM, Gigi wrote: >> >>> Hi guys. >>> I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care >>> about this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. >>> >>> I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was >>> working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker >>> phone, the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in >>> January) to take the phone away from your face and it would become a >>> speaker phone. As I said, it worked like a charm until two days ago. >>> >>> Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide >>> keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and >>> you need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly >>> talking into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so >>> I can get the thing turned on. >>> >>> I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this >>> something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really >>> nice if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gigi >>> nd speaker. This is a real pain with >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, ezzie bueno wrote: >>> Hello Esther and others, My thumb drive is not in use when I try to eject it. COMMAND E is not working. What else can be going on? Ezzie - Original Message - From: Esther
Re: speaker on iPhone
Hi Jessica. If you don't want it, you just put the phone back up to your ear. It's to stop immediately. If you want it, it's supposed to come on when you take the phone away from your face. As far as I know, this subject is not off topic. We have been discussing IOS 5 devices now for quite a while. If Cara didn't want us to talk about it, I guess she would have said by now. I am glad we are doing it, too, because I cant join another list. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:06 PM, "Jessica" wrote: > Is this just supposed to automaticly supposed to do this by default any time > you take the phone away from you ear? If that's the case, how do you turn it > off if you either realize you didn't want it on, or you did, and you're done > with it? > Sorry to vere this subject off topic, just was curious, seeing as how I plan > to get the 4s soon, and could use some tips. > - Original Message - From: "Gigi" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:55 PM > Subject: speaker on iPhone > > > Hi guys. > I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care about > this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. > > I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was > working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, > the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to take > the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As I said, > it worked like a charm until two days ago. > > Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide > keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and you > need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly talking > into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I can get > the thing turned on. > > I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this > something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really nice > if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. > > Regards, > Gigi > nd speaker. This is a real pain with > > Sent from my iPhone > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speaker on iPhone
Hi Pete. Thanks for your suggestions, and I will try them. I did try the rebooting already, but I hadn't done the others. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:23 PM, peter apgar wrote: > this feature is still available. three things to try: > 1 with the phone away from your face turn the volume up. often the speaker > phone volume gets turned down. > 2 wave a finger over the slot for the ear peace. occasionally something > blocks the sensor. > 3 reboot the phone. could be some sort of malfunction with code some where > in the os. > > Good luck. > > Pete > On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Jessica wrote: > >> Is this just supposed to automatically supposed to do this by default any >> time you take the phone away from you ear? If that's the case, how do you >> turn it off if you either realize you didn't want it on, or you did, and >> you're done with it? >> Sorry to vere this subject off topic, just was curious, seeing as how I plan >> to get the 4s soon, and could use some tips. >> - Original Message - From: "Gigi" >> To: >> Cc: >> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:55 PM >> Subject: speaker on iPhone >> >> >> Hi guys. >> I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care >> about this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. >> >> I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was >> working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, >> the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to take >> the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As I >> said, it worked like a charm until two days ago. >> >> Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide >> keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and you >> need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly >> talking into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speaker on iPhone
Hi guys. Yes, I did tell Apple Care people, both of them, that I was using VoiceOver. It's real weird that you say that about this being a VoiceOver feature because my sighted husband, at least before he updated to IOS 5 was annoyed sometimes when the phone went to speaker phone when he didn't want it to. The only problem I have with Apple Care people not knowing about this is that, even if it's a transfer issue, they should get some people who can answer VoiceOver questions. The other thing was, when I asked the second person if this was in fact VoiceOver thing, he didn't know. I only called because I wa hoping there was a simple thing I could do in the meantime to restore this feature back. Some time today, before I go to the Apple store on Wednesday, I'm going to see if I can find this information in the manual, to see if they took it out or not. I'm going to the store since I am going to North Park Mall anyway for something else. So I'll go and ask while I'm at it. They know me over there, and several of them because of me, have had to learn some VoiceOver. Regards, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:16 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > This might be a silly question but, did you explain to them that you are a > voiceover user? Because the feature your talking about is only active with > voiceover on. If they are not voiceover users, and don't know that you are, > I doubt the person trying to help you would know this. In my opinion, its > pretty obscure. I saw someone attack Apple customer service for this in a > previous portion of this thread but, I couldn't kill them for something like > this. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Gigi wrote: > >> Hi JeffThat's what I have been doing for almost a year now and since I can't >> find it in the new manual any more I was wondering if it was taken away. >> Apple Care kept insisting that taking the phone away from the like that was >> not the normal operation. >> Gigi >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 19, 2011, at 7:01 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote: >> >>> I believe the correct way to make the phone go into speaker phone is to >>> take the phone away from your ear and hold it as if it was sitting on a >>> table. I.e. flat. It then thinks it is resting on a table and will go >>> into speaker phone mode. >>> >>> Hth, >>> Jeff >>> >>> On 2011-12-19, at 6:55 PM, Gigi wrote: >>> Hi guys. I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care about this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to take the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As I said, it worked like a charm until two days ago. Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and you need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly talking into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I can get the thing turned on. I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really nice if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. Regards, Gigi nd speaker. This is a real pain with Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, ezzie bueno wrote: > Hello Esther and others, > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speaker on iPhone
Hi, This might be a silly question but, did you explain to them that you are a voiceover user? Because the feature your talking about is only active with voiceover on. If they are not voiceover users, and don't know that you are, I doubt the person trying to help you would know this. In my opinion, its pretty obscure. I saw someone attack Apple customer service for this in a previous portion of this thread but, I couldn't kill them for something like this. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Gigi wrote: > Hi JeffThat's what I have been doing for almost a year now and since I can't > find it in the new manual any more I was wondering if it was taken away. > Apple Care kept insisting that taking the phone away from the like that was > not the normal operation. > Gigi > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 19, 2011, at 7:01 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote: > >> I believe the correct way to make the phone go into speaker phone is to take >> the phone away from your ear and hold it as if it was sitting on a table. >> I.e. flat. It then thinks it is resting on a table and will go into speaker >> phone mode. >> >> Hth, >> Jeff >> >> On 2011-12-19, at 6:55 PM, Gigi wrote: >> >>> Hi guys. >>> I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care >>> about this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. >>> >>> I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was >>> working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, >>> the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to >>> take the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As >>> I said, it worked like a charm until two days ago. >>> >>> Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide >>> keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and >>> you need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly >>> talking into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I >>> can get the thing turned on. >>> >>> I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this >>> something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really >>> nice if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gigi >>> nd speaker. This is a real pain with >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, ezzie bueno wrote: >>> Hello Esther and others, > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speaker on iPhone
this feature is still available. three things to try: 1 with the phone away from your face turn the volume up. often the speaker phone volume gets turned down. 2 wave a finger over the slot for the ear peace. occasionally something blocks the sensor. 3 reboot the phone. could be some sort of malfunction with code some where in the os. Good luck. Pete On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Jessica wrote: > Is this just supposed to automatically supposed to do this by default any > time you take the phone away from you ear? If that's the case, how do you > turn it off if you either realize you didn't want it on, or you did, and > you're done with it? > Sorry to vere this subject off topic, just was curious, seeing as how I plan > to get the 4s soon, and could use some tips. > - Original Message - From: "Gigi" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:55 PM > Subject: speaker on iPhone > > > Hi guys. > I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care about > this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. > > I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was > working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, > the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to take > the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As I said, > it worked like a charm until two days ago. > > Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide > keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and you > need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly talking > into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I can get > the thing turned on. > > I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this > something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really nice > if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. > > Regards, > Gigi > nd speaker. This is a real pain with > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, ezzie bueno wrote: > >> Hello Esther and others, >> >> My thumb drive is not in use when I try to eject it. COMMAND E is not >> working. What else can be going on? >> >> Ezzie >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: Esther > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Date sent: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:00:09 -1000 >> Subject: Ejecting a USB flash drive with a keyboard shortcut [was Re: >> MBPKeyboard] >> >> Hi Ezzie and Others, >> >> The usual reason that a drive fails to eject is that it is still in use. >> This could be either because a copy or write operation is still going on and >> transferring data, or because you have navigated into the file structure of >> the drive in Finder to query contents. I do find that Command-E works to >> eject drives provided they are not in use, but there's nothing wrong with >> following either Ricardo's method with the context menu or Gigi's checks >> that the device is not active. I've retitled the subject line to better >> reflect the content of the discussion. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Dec 19, 2011, at 11:32, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I guess I'm old fashion. lol. I prefer to bring up the context menu with >> VO shift M and just press enter on eject. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> >> Hi Y'all. >> Command E does not always work for me, especially on thumb drives. I was >> told by Apple that if you are writing to the drive and it gets ejected too >> soon, you can mess up your thumb drive. Therefore, these days I always >> check to see if my drive is on my list of active devices before I take it >> out. >> >> Regards, >> Gigi >> >> On Dec 19, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: >> >> Hi Ezzie, >> >> Command+E should eject the drive. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ezzie bueno >> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:55 PM >> To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: MBP Keyboard >> >> Hello list: >> >> When I try and eject a USB flash dr
Re: speaker on iPhone
Try rebooting your phone. Hold the Sleep/Wake button for 7 sec and then tap the "Slide to Power Off" button. Wait for a minute or so and then hold the sleep/wake button agian. I've encountered a similar problem with my 4S and my old 3GS. It seems that the accelerometer needs to be whipped into position every once in a while for speaker phone to take. Try moving it away from your face quickly. Kevin On 2011-12-19, at 8:01 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote: > I believe the correct way to make the phone go into speaker phone is to take > the phone away from your ear and hold it as if it was sitting on a table. > I.e. flat. It then thinks it is resting on a table and will go into speaker > phone mode. > > Hth, > Jeff > > On 2011-12-19, at 6:55 PM, Gigi wrote: > >> Hi guys. >> I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care >> about this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. >> >> I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was >> working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, >> the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to take >> the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As I >> said, it worked like a charm until two days ago. >> >> Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide >> keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and you >> need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly >> talking into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I >> can get the thing turned on. >> >> I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this >> something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really >> nice if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. >> >> Regards, >> Gigi >> nd speaker. This is a real pain with >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, ezzie bueno wrote: >> >>> Hello Esther and others, >>> >>> My thumb drive is not in use when I try to eject it. COMMAND E is not >>> working. What else can be going on? >>> >>> Ezzie >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: Esther >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Date sent: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:00:09 -1000 >>> Subject: Ejecting a USB flash drive with a keyboard shortcut [was Re: >>> MBPKeyboard] >>> >>> Hi Ezzie and Others, >>> >>> The usual reason that a drive fails to eject is that it is still in use. >>> This could be either because a copy or write operation is still going on >>> and transferring data, or because you have navigated into the file >>> structure of the drive in Finder to query contents. I do find that >>> Command-E works to eject drives provided they are not in use, but there's >>> nothing wrong with following either Ricardo's method with the context menu >>> or Gigi's checks that the device is not active. I've retitled the subject >>> line to better reflect the content of the discussion. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Dec 19, 2011, at 11:32, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I guess I'm old fashion. lol. I prefer to bring up the context menu with >>> VO shift M and just press enter on eject. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >>> www.mobileaccess.org >>> >>> On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>> >>> Hi Y'all. >>> Command E does not always work for me, especially on thumb drives. I was >>> told by Apple that if you are writing to the drive and it gets ejected too >>> soon, you can mess up your thumb drive. Therefore, these days I always >>> check to see if my drive is on my list of active devices before I take it >>> out. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gigi >>> >>> On Dec 19, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ezzie, >>> >>> Command+E should eject the drive. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ezzie bueno >>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:55 PM >>> To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: MBP Keyboard >>> >>> Hello list: >>> >>> When I try and eject a USB flash drive, it will not eject. I know I've got >>> it selected. >>> However, when I eject one on my sister's account, it ejects properly. Is >>> there a setting I may have modified on my account that I shouldn't have? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ezzie Ez Bueno >>> Sent from my BrailleNote Apex >>> Skype: sillyez >>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sillyez Google Talk: sill...@sillyez.com >>> Google Plus: ezziebu...@gmail.com >>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/sillyez >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this grou
Re: speaker on iPhone
Is this just supposed to automaticly supposed to do this by default any time you take the phone away from you ear? If that's the case, how do you turn it off if you either realize you didn't want it on, or you did, and you're done with it? Sorry to vere this subject off topic, just was curious, seeing as how I plan to get the 4s soon, and could use some tips. - Original Message - From: "Gigi" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:55 PM Subject: speaker on iPhone Hi guys. I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care about this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to take the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As I said, it worked like a charm until two days ago. Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and you need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly talking into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I can get the thing turned on. I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really nice if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. Regards, Gigi nd speaker. This is a real pain with Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, ezzie bueno wrote: Hello Esther and others, My thumb drive is not in use when I try to eject it. COMMAND E is not working. What else can be going on? Ezzie - Original Message - From: Esther Subject: Ejecting a USB flash drive with a keyboard shortcut [was Re: MBPKeyboard] Hi Ezzie and Others, The usual reason that a drive fails to eject is that it is still in use. This could be either because a copy or write operation is still going on and transferring data, or because you have navigated into the file structure of the drive in Finder to query contents. I do find that Command-E works to eject drives provided they are not in use, but there's nothing wrong with following either Ricardo's method with the context menu or Gigi's checks that the device is not active. I've retitled the subject line to better reflect the content of the discussion. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Dec 19, 2011, at 11:32, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I guess I'm old fashion. lol. I prefer to bring up the context menu with VO shift M and just press enter on eject. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi Y'all. Command E does not always work for me, especially on thumb drives. I was told by Apple that if you are writing to the drive and it gets ejected too soon, you can mess up your thumb drive. Therefore, these days I always check to see if my drive is on my list of active devices before I take it out. Regards, Gigi On Dec 19, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi Ezzie, Command+E should eject the drive. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ezzie bueno Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:55 PM To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: MBP Keyboard Hello list: When I try and eject a USB flash drive, it will not eject. I know I've got it selected. However, when I eject one on my sister's account, it ejects properly. Is there a setting I may have modified on my account that I shouldn't have? Thanks, Ezzie Ez Bueno Sent from my BrailleNote Apex Skype: sillyez Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sillyez Google Talk: sill...@sillyez.com Google Plus: ezziebu...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/sillyez -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macv
Re: speaker on iPhone
Hi JeffThat's what I have been doing for almost a year now and since I can't find it in the new manual any more I was wondering if it was taken away. Apple Care kept insisting that taking the phone away from the like that was not the normal operation. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 7:01 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote: > I believe the correct way to make the phone go into speaker phone is to take > the phone away from your ear and hold it as if it was sitting on a table. > I.e. flat. It then thinks it is resting on a table and will go into speaker > phone mode. > > Hth, > Jeff > > On 2011-12-19, at 6:55 PM, Gigi wrote: > >> Hi guys. >> I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care >> about this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. >> >> I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was >> working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, >> the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to take >> the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As I >> said, it worked like a charm until two days ago. >> >> Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide >> keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and you >> need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly >> talking into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I >> can get the thing turned on. >> >> I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this >> something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really >> nice if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. >> >> Regards, >> Gigi >> nd speaker. This is a real pain with >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, ezzie bueno wrote: >> >>> Hello Esther and others, >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speaker on iPhone
I have never heard of or experienced this change. Taking it away from my ear has been the way to put it in speaker mode, even after SIRI arrived. Apple care doesn't even know how speaker phone works? Sometimes I really truely just don't get it. Their in store people know nothing half the time, their apple care doesn't even know basic stuff and more often than not they really don't know how to resolve your problem or even as much as you did when you called. They release things full of bugs in major functionality all the time and everyone worships their every move. I really truely love and appreciate the accessibility they provide, but I really just don't get this other stuff. On 12/19/11, Jeff Berwick wrote: > I believe the correct way to make the phone go into speaker phone is to take > the phone away from your ear and hold it as if it was sitting on a table. > I.e. flat. It then thinks it is resting on a table and will go into speaker > phone mode. > > Hth, > Jeff > > On 2011-12-19, at 6:55 PM, Gigi wrote: > >> Hi guys. >> I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care >> about this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. >> >> I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was >> working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker >> phone, the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in >> January) to take the phone away from your face and it would become a >> speaker phone. As I said, it worked like a charm until two days ago. >> >> Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide >> keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and >> you need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly >> talking into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so >> I can get the thing turned on. >> >> I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this >> something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really >> nice if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. >> >> Regards, >> Gigi >> nd speaker. This is a real pain with >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, ezzie bueno wrote: >> >>> Hello Esther and others, >>> >>> My thumb drive is not in use when I try to eject it. COMMAND E is not >>> working. What else can be going on? >>> >>> Ezzie >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: Esther >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Date sent: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:00:09 -1000 >>> Subject: Ejecting a USB flash drive with a keyboard shortcut [was Re: >>> MBPKeyboard] >>> >>> Hi Ezzie and Others, >>> >>> The usual reason that a drive fails to eject is that it is still in use. >>> This could be either because a copy or write operation is still going on >>> and transferring data, or because you have navigated into the file >>> structure of the drive in Finder to query contents. I do find that >>> Command-E works to eject drives provided they are not in use, but there's >>> nothing wrong with following either Ricardo's method with the context >>> menu or Gigi's checks that the device is not active. I've retitled the >>> subject line to better reflect the content of the discussion. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Dec 19, 2011, at 11:32, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I guess I'm old fashion. lol. I prefer to bring up the context menu >>> with VO shift M and just press enter on eject. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >>> www.mobileaccess.org >>> >>> On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>> >>> Hi Y'all. >>> Command E does not always work for me, especially on thumb drives. I was >>> told by Apple that if you are writing to the drive and it gets ejected >>> too soon, you can mess up your thumb drive. Therefore, these days I >>> always check to see if my drive is on my list of active devices before I >>> take it out. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gigi >>> >>> On Dec 19, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ezzie, >>> >>> Command+E should eject the drive. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ezzie bueno >>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:55 PM >>> To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: MBP Keyboard >>> >>> Hello list: >>> >>> When I try and eject a USB flash drive, it will not eject. I know I've >>> got >>> it selected. >>> However, when I eject one on my sister's account, it ejects properly. Is >>> there a setting I may have modified on my account that I shouldn't have? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ezzie Ez Bueno >>> Sent from my BrailleNote Apex >>> Skype: sillyez >>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sillyez Google Talk: >>> sill...@sillyez.com >>> Google Plus: ezziebu...@gmail.com >>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/sillyez >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You rece
Re: speaker on iPhone
I believe the correct way to make the phone go into speaker phone is to take the phone away from your ear and hold it as if it was sitting on a table. I.e. flat. It then thinks it is resting on a table and will go into speaker phone mode. Hth, Jeff On 2011-12-19, at 6:55 PM, Gigi wrote: > Hi guys. > I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care about > this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. > > I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was > working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, > the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to take > the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As I said, > it worked like a charm until two days ago. > > Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide > keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and you > need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly talking > into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I can get > the thing turned on. > > I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this > something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really nice > if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. > > Regards, > Gigi > nd speaker. This is a real pain with > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, ezzie bueno wrote: > >> Hello Esther and others, >> >> My thumb drive is not in use when I try to eject it. COMMAND E is not >> working. What else can be going on? >> >> Ezzie >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: Esther > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Date sent: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:00:09 -1000 >> Subject: Ejecting a USB flash drive with a keyboard shortcut [was Re: >> MBPKeyboard] >> >> Hi Ezzie and Others, >> >> The usual reason that a drive fails to eject is that it is still in use. >> This could be either because a copy or write operation is still going on and >> transferring data, or because you have navigated into the file structure of >> the drive in Finder to query contents. I do find that Command-E works to >> eject drives provided they are not in use, but there's nothing wrong with >> following either Ricardo's method with the context menu or Gigi's checks >> that the device is not active. I've retitled the subject line to better >> reflect the content of the discussion. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Dec 19, 2011, at 11:32, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I guess I'm old fashion. lol. I prefer to bring up the context menu with >> VO shift M and just press enter on eject. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> >> Hi Y'all. >> Command E does not always work for me, especially on thumb drives. I was >> told by Apple that if you are writing to the drive and it gets ejected too >> soon, you can mess up your thumb drive. Therefore, these days I always >> check to see if my drive is on my list of active devices before I take it >> out. >> >> Regards, >> Gigi >> >> On Dec 19, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: >> >> Hi Ezzie, >> >> Command+E should eject the drive. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ezzie bueno >> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:55 PM >> To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: MBP Keyboard >> >> Hello list: >> >> When I try and eject a USB flash drive, it will not eject. I know I've got >> it selected. >> However, when I eject one on my sister's account, it ejects properly. Is >> there a setting I may have modified on my account that I shouldn't have? >> >> Thanks, >> Ezzie Ez Bueno >> Sent from my BrailleNote Apex >> Skype: sillyez >> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sillyez Google Talk: sill...@sillyez.com >> Google Plus: ezziebu...@gmail.com >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/sillyez >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message becau
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Hi guys. I have a question, and it is driving me crazy. I just called Apple Care about this, and basically, I don't think they believed me. I use the feature I'm describing all the time. Until two days ago, it was working just fine. If you're on a call and you want to go to speaker phone, the manual used to say (it did when I got my iPhone back in January) to take the phone away from your face and it would become a speaker phone. As I said, it worked like a charm until two days ago. Now, all of a sudden, for no reason I can figure out, I have to go to hide keypadnd then Speaker, a pain with VoiceOver when someone is talking and you need to switch them over to speaker phone. Also, VoiceOver is quietly talking into the earpiece, and I'm finding it hard to hear the choices so I can get the thing turned on. I could not find this feature in the iPhone manual any more. Is this something they changed because of Siri? If so, it would have been really nice if Apple Care people had just said so from the start. Regards, Gigi nd speaker. This is a real pain with Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:55 PM, ezzie bueno wrote: > Hello Esther and others, > > My thumb drive is not in use when I try to eject it. COMMAND E is not > working. What else can be going on? > > Ezzie > > > - Original Message - > From: Esther To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Date sent: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:00:09 -1000 > Subject: Ejecting a USB flash drive with a keyboard shortcut [was Re: > MBPKeyboard] > > Hi Ezzie and Others, > > The usual reason that a drive fails to eject is that it is still in use. > This could be either because a copy or write operation is still going on and > transferring data, or because you have navigated into the file structure of > the drive in Finder to query contents. I do find that Command-E works to > eject drives provided they are not in use, but there's nothing wrong with > following either Ricardo's method with the context menu or Gigi's checks that > the device is not active. I've retitled the subject line to better reflect > the content of the discussion. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Dec 19, 2011, at 11:32, Ricardo Walker wrote: > > Hi, > > I guess I'm old fashion. lol. I prefer to bring up the context menu with VO > shift M and just press enter on eject. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > > Hi Y'all. > Command E does not always work for me, especially on thumb drives. I was > told by Apple that if you are writing to the drive and it gets ejected too > soon, you can mess up your thumb drive. Therefore, these days I always check > to see if my drive is on my list of active devices before I take it out. > > Regards, > Gigi > > On Dec 19, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > > Hi Ezzie, > > Command+E should eject the drive. > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ezzie bueno > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:55 PM > To: macvoiceo...@freelists.org; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: MBP Keyboard > > Hello list: > > When I try and eject a USB flash drive, it will not eject. I know I've got > it selected. > However, when I eject one on my sister's account, it ejects properly. Is > there a setting I may have modified on my account that I shouldn't have? > > Thanks, > Ezzie Ez Bueno > Sent from my BrailleNote Apex > Skype: sillyez > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sillyez Google Talk: sill...@sillyez.com > Google Plus: ezziebu...@gmail.com > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/sillyez > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.