Re: [MBZ] W124 uneven heat on acceleration
> Does not one imply the other? I.e., if the aux pump isn't working, > you'll get no heat at idle, overcorrected by extra heat at the start > of not-idle. I suppose it depends on how responsive (and even predictive) the system really is. I've noticed no such bursts from any of our cars, and on several the aux pump is dead or disabled. Not definitive, by any means. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 uneven heat on acceleration
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Lately I get a burst of hot air from the vents on acceleration from a > > stop, which corrects itself after a few seconds as the ACC adjusts. > > Isn't this exactly what the auxiliary water pump under the washer tank > > is supposed to prevent? > > No. It's for ensuring an adequate supply of cabin heat > when sitting at idle. > Does not one imply the other? I.e., if the aux pump isn't working, you'll get no heat at idle, overcorrected by extra heat at the start of not-idle. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
> The South still needed cheap labor to plant & pick > the fields and Share Cropping was invented to replaced > slavery. This was essentially a new form of slavery since the > share croppers were tied to the owner's land and the owners > crops. > Tom Hargrave Yup. Share cropping was finally eliminated with the invention of a mechanical cotton picker. Once the economic advantage was gone, it faded away. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: LCD Displays
It seems than at Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:45:28 -0500, Allan wrote: > Are there any adapters that let you put a TV signal (e.g. from > a portable DVD player, etc) into a computer monitor? Your asking two different things. A TV signal, (antenna, CATV) is a modulated signal with video and audio on the same cable with a threaded "F" connector. To view it requires tuning to a particular channel, say 3 or 4. A portable DVD player probably has video an audio on separate outputs on RCA connectors. (all three are the same except for the color). To view RF will require a tuner to turn it into "base band" video and audio. There are computer cards that do this. To view baseband on a computer monitor that only has an HD15 "VGA" connector, you need a scaler. MCM Electronics has one, part number 83-9682 for $60 http://www.mcmelectronics.com -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
I know better than to criticize anyone for displaying a rebel flag, although i did find it encouraging that at the Republican YouTube debate most of the candidates excoriated the guy who asked what they felt about the symbolism of that flag. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South > > should > > won the war to continue the practice of slavery? If so, I would be > > amazed > > to find any such on this list. > > I. The South should have won their independence. And Slavery > should have been banished back to Hell from whence it came. (Or > better yet, never have been instituted here in the first place. > Those issues are not [and never were] indistinguishably tied > together.) Where is it written in stone that the Union, once > formed, cannot be unformed without bloodshed? Consent of the > governed, and all that. > > Had the South won independence I wonder how things would have > ultimately turned out. I'm completely confident that slavery > would still be long gone, and I wonder if its demise would > have gone smoother that way. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 280sel, 109
the 300 has an air suspension. the 280 has conventional springs On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:48 PM, mak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Like to know if are there any differences in a 280SEL and a 300SEL . > 108.109 > the engines may be one ,but other than that? > > mak > > - Original Message - > From: David Bruckmann > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:22 AM > Subject: [MBZ] W108 mystery switch > > > Gang, > > The centre console on my 280SEL (with column shifter) has a fifth switch. > It looks exactly like the single rocker switch in the rear door. The extra > switch is located between the two rows of double window switches. The car > doesn't have a sunroof, and in any case I believe sunroof switches were > normally on the dash. Could this be the antenna height switch (the car has > an electric antenna, but I doubt it is the original because it isn't a > Hirschmann) or is there some other option that I don't even know I have!? > > D. > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: %switches.jpg > Type: application/applefile > Size: 122 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080227/0d961766/attachment.bin > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: switches.jpg > Type: application/octet-stream > Size: 47977 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080227/0d961766/attachment.obj > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1300 - Release Date: > 2/26/2008 7:50 PM > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Credit/debit card car rental
It worked about two months ago at Enterprise. They do prefer a credit card but accepted my debit card. BillR <<<>>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Bill R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can rent a car with a debit card. Not sure it that is true of all car > rental agencies. I also have credit cards, all with $0 balances. > BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Party on Garth!
I have a pacer wagon with a Perkins Diesel in it. What a unique car! Was that a very rare factory option? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bouncy speedo needle and wonky cruise in the 300TE
> I did undo the speedo cable to test the hall sensor resistance It's not a Hall-effect sensor. Those are more expensive and less reliable than a variable-reluctance sensor in any situation where a VR sensor will work. And you can't test them with an ohmmeter. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 mystery switch
How about a rear electric window lock out switch - so kids won;t play with the switches? Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: "David Bruckmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 6:22 PM Subject: [MBZ] W108 mystery switch > Gang, > > The centre console on my 280SEL (with column shifter) has a fifth switch. > It looks exactly like the single rocker switch in the rear door. The extra > switch is located between the two rows of double window switches. The car > doesn't have a sunroof, and in any case I believe sunroof switches were > normally on the dash. Could this be the antenna height switch (the car has > an electric antenna, but I doubt it is the original because it isn't a > Hirschmann) or is there some other option that I don't even know I have!? > > D. > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: %switches.jpg > Type: application/applefile > Size: 122 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080227/0d961766/attachment.bin > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: switches.jpg > Type: application/octet-stream > Size: 47977 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080227/0d961766/attachment.obj > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ABS question again and flushing diffs
> I tried to pull it [OVP] apart for a resolder but could not figure out > how. I have seen pictures of them pulled apart. It's very clever. That plastic fuse holder is in two pieces, and locks the cover onto the relay body. It slips apart, like one of those wooden cube interlocking puzzles. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
> Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South > should > won the war to continue the practice of slavery? If so, I would be > amazed > to find any such on this list. I. The South should have won their independence. And Slavery should have been banished back to Hell from whence it came. (Or better yet, never have been instituted here in the first place. Those issues are not [and never were] indistinguishably tied together.) Where is it written in stone that the Union, once formed, cannot be unformed without bloodshed? Consent of the governed, and all that. Had the South won independence I wonder how things would have ultimately turned out. I'm completely confident that slavery would still be long gone, and I wonder if its demise would have gone smoother that way. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 280sel, 109
Like to know if are there any differences in a 280SEL and a 300SEL . 108.109 the engines may be one ,but other than that? mak - Original Message - From: David Bruckmann To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:22 AM Subject: [MBZ] W108 mystery switch Gang, The centre console on my 280SEL (with column shifter) has a fifth switch. It looks exactly like the single rocker switch in the rear door. The extra switch is located between the two rows of double window switches. The car doesn't have a sunroof, and in any case I believe sunroof switches were normally on the dash. Could this be the antenna height switch (the car has an electric antenna, but I doubt it is the original because it isn't a Hirschmann) or is there some other option that I don't even know I have!? D. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: %switches.jpg Type: application/applefile Size: 122 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080227/0d961766/attachment.bin -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: switches.jpg Type: application/octet-stream Size: 47977 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080227/0d961766/attachment.obj ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1300 - Release Date: 2/26/2008 7:50 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
>From Wikipedia (I know, not a authoritative by any means, but very handy): Lincoln's Suspension of Habeas Corpus Under the United States Constitution, habeas corpus can be suspended pursuant to the constitution in cases of rebellion or invasion. See United States Constitution. The Confederacy was rebelling, thus suspension of habeas corpus was both legal and constitutional. After habeas corpus was suspended by General Winfield Scott in one theater of the Civil War in 1861, Lincoln did write that Scott "could arrest, and detain, without resort to ordinary processes and forms of law, such individuals as he might deem dangerous to public safety." After Chief Justice Roger B. Taney attacked the president for this policy, Lincoln responded in his First Message to Congress in December 1861 that an insurrection "in nearly one-third of the States had subverted the whole of the laws . . . Are all the laws, but one, to go unexecuted, and the government itself go to pieces, lest that one be violated?" Later in the war, after some had criticized the arrest and detention of Congressman Clement Vallandigham of Ohio, Lincoln wrote to Erastus Corning in June 1862 that Vallandigham was arrested "because he was laboring, with some effect, to prevent the raising of troops, to encourage desertions from the army, and to leave the rebellion without an adequate military force to suppress it. . . . Must I shoot a simple-minded deserter, while I must not touch a hair of a wily agitator who induces him to desert?" On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 8:31 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Suspension of Constitutional rights due to the war emergency -- that > rankles me to no end. > > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 4:39 PM, andrew strasfogel > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Lincoln?? I must be missing something. > > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wood key tops
Yeah, I'm very disappointed (and embarrassed) with the focus of the photos. Evidently, I was too close for aotofocus to handle it. Yes, my eyesight is still good enough to see that the photos are not well focused and, therefore, I shouldn't have sent 'em. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
Suspension of Constitutional rights due to the war emergency -- that rankles me to no end. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 4:39 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lincoln?? I must be missing something. > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
Our dog, half Briard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briard), killed two ducks before he learned not to do that. I rubbed his nose in the dead duck and swatted him a few times. He didn't like negative attention, and never killed another duck. he did try to herd (or chase - I'm not sure which) the ducks for a long time, which they didn't like. > Another thing to consider along with a dog's breeding are the individual > variations in "personality" among dogs. You can have a strict breeding > program, and even so, the individual dogs have different tendencies. This is > why I evaluate each dog without too many presuppositions. > > A good herding-type dog can still be a killer of its flock animals. > > Brian -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wood key tops
What else? Well, not much, I guess, but I've written 3 books, designed and built several houses, restored 2 National Register large Victorian mansions and the Georgian Colonial Revival house I'm living in; restored coupla '67 VW's 25 years ago. Dropped a lot of iron from B-52's onto Vietnam, including Linebacker II missions to Hanoi in Dec 72, to help bring an end to that national tragedy of Vietnam. Sat on alert with nuclear weapons for about a third of 13 years ready to launch in less than 15 minutes and deliver nukes to targets in USSR, contributing to collapse of that union and helping to end the cold war. And some other stuff, including lotsa stuff I've forgotten. Taking orders for key tops? 'Don't think so. Well, not yet, anyway, but what is one willing to pay? Maybe, I can be persuaded. BTW, "taking orders" reminds me - I do very well at most anything voluntarily, but I don't "WILL" (as in "You WILL do this or you WILL do that." in the military context of "taking orders") very well. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 126 diesel mileage
Must be time to change ALL the fuses again! On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 4:48 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If that is true, then it must be time to do it again! > > You got to stop driving so much. You gonna wear that car out. > > Randy -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scooter charger switch
That is classy! Good job. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:03 PM, wilton strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a photo of the rocker switch with scooter icon that I installed in > the center console of my '87 300D a few months ago. Switch controls 12V DC > to inverter which supplies 120V AC to scooter mfgr's charger which supplies > 28V DC to mobility scooter battery in the trunk. > > Wilton -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wood key tops
Not photography apparently :-) Hendrik who is no whizz with the camera, thank God for auto focus and such Chuck Landenberger wrote: > Wilton, > > You do great work. Clocks and keys and what else?? > Congratulations > > Take care, > > Chuck > On Feb 28, 2008, at 5:24 PM, wilton strickland wrote: > > >> Here are photos of black walnut key top I made coupla months ago. >> >> >> > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ABS question again
I only bought the car a couple of weeks ago, give me a chance to catch up on maintenance :-) Hendrik Peter Frederick wrote: > Drain the diff (when did you change the fluid last?) and remove the > rear cover. Get a new gasket, too. > > If the sensor gets loaded up with metal dust, it can fail to count > the teeth. > > Peter > > > ___ > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bouncy speedo needle and wonky cruise in the 300TE
Yeah but the thing that has me stumped is that it only did it that one time. Usually if a MB speedo develops bouncing needle syndrome it is a fairly regular event, usually infrequent at the start and gets worse until it is a permanent feature of the car. Perhaps there is a wonky earth, the hall sensor gets power from no 5 fuse and earthes at the W1 ground behind the cluster. I did undo the speedo cable to test the hall sensor resistance and then put it all back together but then I drove 20K's to a wrecker and it was fine, it was on the way back that the needle started to fluctuate and hasn't done so since. If the speedo cable is borderline, perhaps the hall sensor firing up affected it enough to make it bounce. Apparently the hall sensor works on magnetic pulses, so as the speedo turns the magnet affected it and made it bounce. Hendrik with loads of theories and none are yet proven fact Peter Frederick wrote: > Bad hall effect pickup, maybe. The bouncing needle, actually, is > probably a bad bushing -- I'm going to have to send my speedo off for > repair, the more accurate one squeals and bounces, the odo doesn't > work in the other one. > > Peter > > > ___ > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
No, her name isn't Chattel, but sometimes I feel like a slave to her wishes. Make that often. No, make that most of the time. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: > Depends on whether the wife in question is "chattel". > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Rich Thomas < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Do wives count as people who believe that? >> >> --R >> >> andrew strasfogel wrote: >> >>> Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South >>> >> should >> >>> won the war to continue the practice of slavery? If so, I would be >>> >> amazed >> >>> to find any such on this list. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
That is actually the Confederate Battle Flag (stars and bars), different from the Confederate flag. Here in Texas there are still Confederate flags flown on Confederate day or something, I mistook them for French flags (which I thought odd to be seeing in Texas) as they look sorta similar. Oh, and we have Mexican flags, Texas flags, American flags, and a couple others too that fly here and there. --R R A Bennell wrote: > Hey why not? That works for me. > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:29 PM > To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System > > > My Brother In-law hangs a rebel flag in the back window of his truck. I've > talked to him several times about the flag. I've come to the conclusion that > his flag has nothing to do with "The South shall rise again", Blacks or > slavery. He's just proud to be Southern. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high
Welcome to the real world, Diesel over here is way more than unleaded and has been for a while, about $1.45/liter vs 1.25 for unleaded. Hendrik Dave H... wrote: > I just paid $3.49 per gallon for diesel here in SCGrr! > $64.00 to fill up to 300CD > > > > Dave H... > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ok this is a strange auction
It gets better. He is selling the same car twice: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320221377373 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320221910935 -Dave Walton On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-sedan-71-mercedes-benz-3-5-300-series_W0QQitemZ320221910935QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wood key tops
Beautiful work!! (Takin' orders? :) > From: "wilton strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:24:26 -0500 > To: "mercedes" > Subject: [MBZ] Wood key tops > > Here are photos of black walnut key top I made coupla months ago. > > Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ABS question again
I think you are a bit confused, I am not wanting to clean the ABS light but the toothed ring inside the diff, the sensor is no worries because it can be pulled out and given a wipe down to make it shiny again. Hendrik LarryT wrote: > Contact cleaner would probably not damage anything and it;s a pretty good > cleaner. Is it an optical sensor? Does the glass lens you are cleaning > have a light in it? - or is it a target for a light? Just curious - > > You might be able to find a bottle cleaning brush to push into the hole and > clean things. Kitchen specialty shops are good sources and I bought a bag > of assorted bottle/tube brushes to clean my air-powered paint guns at a > painting website - > > Like these - http://www.bottlebooks.com/brushes.htm > > You also might be able to use Dental Picks - ask your dentist for his old > ones - whenever I ask mine he give me a handful from a drawer full! > > Since I have a similar car I'd like to know what to expect should mine start > to act funny. > > Good luck - > > Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sam Dickson
what about this guy, sam dickson's fellow traveler. is he also some kind of racist lunatic? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz3BuqTQdMc&feature=related i think you ought to form your own conclusions on who the bigots are today before you jump on any bogeyman assault. and i think the merits of an argument should be considered rather apart from a caricature of the author. think about who the bigots are today and not who the bigots were 50 years ago in alabama. don't just be a mindless dupe of the media and education. we all "learned" about how nero burned rome, fiddling or something or other as it went up in flames. nero said it was the christians who did it, but once the christians seized power, it was dogma that nero did it. guess who seems to have done it after all? investigate some more about lincoln and form your own conclusions as to whom he did or did not love. you guys are so lucky to have me around to help y'all think. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Donald Snook wrote: > > > > Sam Dickson was the author of the article about Lincoln. > > > > I found out a little bit more about him. > > > > He is a member of the KKK. He was their lawyer. > > OK, I should be more careful about what I find in a Google search. > What about the "Journal of Historical Review" where it was supposedly > published originally? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
RA -- Don't mess with Andrew. In a contest of rhetoric, he will annihilate anyone else on this list. He is far from the village idiot. Don't forget where he works and what he does for living. He is a master a baffle w/ BS. D. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:05 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Andrew > > Got a Rebel Flag for the back window in your car? The South shall rise > again! > > Got to be careful here not to offend anyone. Our trusty parts suppliers > are in Atanta after all. > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:53 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System > > > Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South should > won the war to continue the practice of slavery? If so, I would be amazed > to find any such on this list. > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > More of a tenth amendment/states rights issue. Both sides of that war > > undertook > > a lot of revisionist history to make the other side seem more evil. > > > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 04:49:35PM -0600, R A Bennell wrote: > > > Ugh, would that be the freedom to own slaves?? > > > > > > Randy > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel > > > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:40 PM > > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System > > > > > > > > > Lincoln?? I must be missing something. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 190E manny
They don't do very well, 24 is typical of the ones I know about. Very nice performance, though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 85 190E manny
Anybody have a 85 190E 2.3 manual? What kind of mileage should this sort of thing get? Fueleconomy says 17/24 which seems low to me. This thing can run on regular gas so was thinking it might be cheaper to drive than even my 2.5 turbo, but not sure. I know for the 2.2 auto they say 26/30, but I got 36 with the one I had that John then had and sold to that crazy dude in iowa. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wood key tops
Wilton, You do great work. Clocks and keys and what else?? Congratulations Take care, Chuck On Feb 28, 2008, at 5:24 PM, wilton strickland wrote: > Here are photos of black walnut key top I made coupla months ago. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
Gosh, I hope that a chicken killer or a cat killer would not automatically be a child killer. And I'm glad you mentioned breeding rather than training. I hear too much of the assertion that a dog is what you make him. Another thing to consider along with a dog's breeding are the individual variations in "personality" among dogs. You can have a strict breeding program, and even so, the individual dogs have different tendencies. This is why I evaluate each dog without too many presuppositions. A good herding-type dog can still be a killer of its flock animals. Brian On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have found that if the dog will kill a child, it would kill a > chicken, so you acclimate them much the same way. Have the dog > exposed to the chickens as they grow and it may decide that they are > part of his pack as well as chickens figuring the dog is a really > ugly rooster. If the dog is a breed meant to shepherd it will do > that, if bred to attack, will do that. > > clay > > On 28 Feb 2008, at 04:54, Zoltan Finks wrote: > > > I was gonna mention the dog angle. > > > > I know that some dogs are chicken killers. I suspect my Dobie might > > be one. > > In fact I worry that he might be a cat killer. NO, this is not > > because he > > has ever killed a cat. It's because I've read in William Koehler's > > (spelling > > of name? too lazy to go look it up) book that most dogs would be > > put in > > their place by cats, but some are genuine killers of felines. And I > > don't > > see any indication in my Dobie that he is the former. > > > > BTW the late Mr. Koehler's solution to a chicken-killing dog is to > > tie a > > dead chicken around its neck and leave it there for a few weeks or > > so. Boy > > would that never fly today (again with another unintended pun). > > > > Brian > > > > Tom wrote:They are also incredibly dirty - also from first hand > > observation > > - > > inlaws had a dog. > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ok this is a strange auction
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-sedan-71-mercedes-benz-3-5-300-series_W0QQitemZ320221910935QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sam Dickson
Donald Snook wrote: > > Sam Dickson was the author of the article about Lincoln. > > I found out a little bit more about him. > > He is a member of the KKK. He was their lawyer. OK, I should be more careful about what I find in a Google search. What about the "Journal of Historical Review" where it was supposedly published originally? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wood key tops
Here are photos of black walnut key top I made coupla months ago. Wilton -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Img_1281.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 135848 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080228/cd04b154/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Img_1282.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 137262 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080228/cd04b154/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Img_1267.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 248006 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080228/cd04b154/attachment-0002.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high
It's been $3.599 here for the last two weeks. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ABS question again
Drain the diff (when did you change the fluid last?) and remove the rear cover. Get a new gasket, too. If the sensor gets loaded up with metal dust, it can fail to count the teeth. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sam Dickson
Sam Dickson was the author of the article about Lincoln. I found out a little bit more about him. He is a member of the KKK. He was their lawyer. He is a member of several white supremacist groups. He ran for governor on a segregation platform. He is a supporter of David Duke and a friend. He is a frequent contributor to Storm Front a white nationalist KKK organization. He is a nut. I would think if he is critical of somebody that would be an endorsement for that person. I am a conservative republican and this guy makes me sick. Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATF Level Question
Sure. Makes sense. I am talking about the longevity and lack of problems & maintenance worries associated with a manual. brian On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:35 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sort of depends on what you are using the vehicle for etc. I have had a > number of each and I guess for the most > part if I have to choose I would go with an automatic. I wouldn't mind if > my 115 300D was a manual but I am happy > that my 02 Supercrew is not. Truck transmissions are generally not as much > fun as car manual transmissions. We have > the 98 F150 with a manual 5 speed and although it is alright, it is a bit > of a pain in traffic. It is only a 4.2 > V6 - the manual did not come with a V8 - and it is easy to bog it in 2nd > and the step down to low is too far to > work smoothly. > > Our old 4Runner, on the other hand will go way down in higher gears > without bogging - a real flat torque curve I > guess. It, for a truck, is a more drivable manual transmission. It is, > however, a dog in the first couple of gears. > Seems fine once moving but slow on takeoff. I have not driven the 2nd gen > Runner with an AT but I am told it is > even more of a dog. > > Personal preferences always, but the AT is easy and the older I get, the > more I like things that are easy. > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:14 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] ATF Level Question > > > Thanks Jim, and others. Great info. I'll study it a few times to try to > remember it all and learn from it. > I did, however, think there might be a sort of standard knowledge of how > much the difference between the dipstick reading in a warm, running engine > and a cold, non-running engine is. > > I see how things can get a whole lot more complicated, though, after > reading > the response. > > I agree totally with whomever exclaimed that they hate ATs. I hate the > stuffing out of them to!!! > > Well, with one exception: The 727 Torqueflite behind my big block > Chrysler. > That model is known as "bulletproof". Never had a problem with one, and I > can say that as a foolish youth I have accidentally shifted to reverse at > maybe 30 mph. (not that I wouldn't make that mistake today). And I have > seen > many "neutral drop" from other idiots (most too young to drive). > > Brian > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:21 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Brian, > > > > the whole open area in the transmission will physically only hold about > 2 > > 1/2 quarts.? since your leak is probably at the torque converter seal, > air > > is getting in where the oil is leaking out.? This lets the torque > converter > > drain down into the trans case, which it normally doesn't accomplish for > > some time.? The torque converter holds about 2 1/2 quarts so about half > of > > that could find it's way back to the trans case fairly quickly! > > > > Given the above scenario is true, you could actually be aggravating > > (feeding) the leak by filling the trans to the full mark, which doesn't > > leave enough space??for the oil to drain down.? The level in the trans > case > > would?get high enough that it leaks out the tq seal, even with the > engine > > off!? Is that the case?? Does the oil continue to drip, long after the > > engine is shut off? > > > > I am sorry to answer your question with more questions, but here is one > > more.? Have you checked the vacuum line to the transmission modulator > for > > signs of oil?? a cracked modulator diaphragm can let trans fluid get > sucked > > into the engine, agravating your fluid loss. > > > > Marshall (RIP) has many times said to never fill in the oil to more than > > halfway between the add and the full lines.? He was mainly talking about > > engine oil, but I have seen automatic transmissions, filled to the > correct > > hot level, blow oil out the vent on a hard run up a long hill, or more > > likely, due to aeration of the fluid, caused by something as simple as a > > loose filter.? We are, after all, dealing? with a well used > transmission, > > and quirky things can happen. > > > > I would start by never adding more than 1/2 quart when the dipstick gets > > down to the add mark.? Lucas makes an additive for automatics which may > > swell that leaking seal.?? Try to observe the drip rate with fluid at > > different levels, with the engine off. > > > > Finally, never park with the front of the car down hill! > > > > Jim in Phoenx > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 5:46 am > > Subject: [MBZ] ATF Level Question > > > > > > > > > > Just checked the ATF earlier this evening on the 87 190D and found once > > again that the stick is dry. I assure you this pains me. But I'm > learning > > just how often I have to add fluid to the leaky tranny. Heaven forefend > > the >
[MBZ] lincoln and Racists was Re: OT: Our Political System
andrew strasfogel wrote: > > Lincoln?? I must be missing something. http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v07/v07p319_Dickson.html WHOA! Did you actually read that? That may be one of the least disguised racist articles I have ever read about Lincoln. Here are a few quotes from the article. "The fact that Lincoln was willing to go that far (opposing slavery) early in his career indicates that he was committed to Negro equality at the inception of his career and was on the far left of contemporary American thought about the Negro and slavery issues." The author indicates that being opposed to slavery was a radical and despicable idea. If you don't believe me read the next line: "Americans are prone to read or hear the House Divided Speech with a tingling of the spine, impressed by its dramatic tone. Set in the context of developing regional antagonism, however, the speech seems to be that of an irresponsible demagogue. The Union had existed half slave and half free from its inception. There appears to be no logical reason why it could not have continued to have existed in that fashion." WOW! I can't believe anyone would put that in writing. Lincoln should not have opposed the South's use of slaves? Is that really the message of this article? The author suggests that he could have just left it alone. The south gets slaves and the north doesn't - we can all be one big happy family. AND here is a very interesting take on Lincoln. He was a crazy liberal who did too much to move the country to the LEFT. "He properly ought to be considered as a major liberal force, as someone who moved the country toward the left and toward the situation which exists today." THEN, the author criticizes Lincoln because he WON THE CIVIL WAR. "He successfully defeated the South. The labors of the South for its freedom were all in vain. Seventy-five percent of the white male population of military age served in the Southern armies but could not overcome the disparity in numbers of the North's mercenaries." If you still don't believe that this author is a NUT JOB, read the next quote: Remember, he is critical of Lincoln and these are the reasons why Lincoln is a terrible president and terrible leader. "The cherished dream of Southern independence was not to be." The CHERISHED Dream of the SOUTH? What dream is that ? The dream to keep slaves? The dream to be an independent country without the North. Rather than convincing me that Lincoln was a bad president, this article has convinced me that Lincoln must have had guts of steel. If it were me and people like this guy wanted to form another country, I might have said - okay - I probably would have shown him the door and paid his way. I think this is the opposite of how most critics of Lincoln view him. That he was too far right. He was too autocratic and took too much power and took the country to the RIGHT not the left. His suspension of the writ of habeas corpus during the war is not a LIBERAL thing to do. I can understand some criticisms of Lincoln. But, this article ought to have a link to the KKK recruitment chapter. Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bouncy speedo needle and wonky cruise in the 300TE
Bad hall effect pickup, maybe. The bouncing needle, actually, is probably a bad bushing -- I'm going to have to send my speedo off for repair, the more accurate one squeals and bounces, the odo doesn't work in the other one. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 uneven heat on acceleration
Yup. Take it off and blow through it in normal flow direction. It should flop wide open, then close completely when you quit. Mine barely leaked past. Battery voltage applied should lock it closed. However, low flow at idle can still be a bad aux pump -- verify that you get power when the key is switched on (and check the temp sensor fan beside the glove box, too -- it's on the same feed). No power, the pushbutton unit won't turn it on as it supplies the ground. You can verify that it's working by the vibration of the rotation by setting the temp wheel to the hot click and push the defrost button -- so long as the engine temp is above 40C, the pump should be on. You can check the Pushbutton unit by unplugging the pump and checking that there is battery voltage across the power pins to the pump under the same conditions. Mine works much better now, still rather cool at idle, but no great rush of heat and I don't freeze sitting at stop lights. Not sure about the aux pump, I'll be checking that out next week as I'm taking a week's vacation to start the spring stuff and the weather should be decent. I also had a bad connection to the engine temp sensor that I re-soldered, but have not verified yet. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
andrew strasfogel wrote: > > Almost forgot to mention the unimportant and irrelevant Emancipation > Proclamation but there I go again being naive, moralistic, and judgmental. When was the last time you read it? There were two main points to it. 1) I hereby declare all slaves to be free in all lands not under my control. 2) If you wish to put those lands under my control by 1-1-1863, you can keep your slaves. I realize that by the time you were eight years old you were expected to be able to parrot "Washington was the father of our country...Lincoln freed the slaves", but it wasn't quite that simple. Mary Todd Lincoln was definitely an abolitionist, as were many of Abe's associates, but while he was quite a leftist for his time, slavery did not seem to be a huge driving force in Abe's life. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
Hey why not? That works for me. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:29 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System My Brother In-law hangs a rebel flag in the back window of his truck. I've talked to him several times about the flag. I've come to the conclusion that his flag has nothing to do with "The South shall rise again", Blacks or slavery. He's just proud to be Southern. Thanks, Tom Hargrave ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
My Brother In-law hangs a rebel flag in the back window of his truck. I've talked to him several times about the flag. I've come to the conclusion that his flag has nothing to do with "The South shall rise again", Blacks or slavery. He's just proud to be Southern. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System Hey Andrew Got a Rebel Flag for the back window in your car? The South shall rise again! Got to be careful here not to offend anyone. Our trusty parts suppliers are in Atanta after all. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South should won the war to continue the practice of slavery? If so, I would be amazed to find any such on this list. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More of a tenth amendment/states rights issue. Both sides of that war > undertook > a lot of revisionist history to make the other side seem more evil. > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 04:49:35PM -0600, R A Bennell wrote: > > Ugh, would that be the freedom to own slaves?? > > > > Randy > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel > > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:40 PM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System > > > > > > Lincoln?? I must be missing something. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1302 - Release Date: 2/27/2008 4:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1302 - Release Date: 2/27/2008 4:34 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ABS question again and flushing diffs
Yessum boss I cleaned dem rings good. I am not ruling out voltage problems, at the moment the ABS light is off for the first 5k's or so and then comes on. Perhaps the OVP is having issues, I tried to pull it apart for a resolder but could not figure out how. I have seen pictures of them pulled apart. From my understanding if a sensor is bad then the light will come on after a few meter once speed is above a certain point. Is it possible/advisable to flush the diff with something like ATF or am I best off to just put in new gear oil? Hendrik who needs a can of electrical gremlin spray, which one is recommended or is it better to set gremlin traps around the car Jim Cathey wrote: >> [perhaps] the rotor in the diff has icky stuff all over it and >> is not feeding a proper signal. >> > > Seems unlikely, given the protected nature of life inside > the differential. And oil is no problem, it has to be steel > particles in order to cause trouble. That's the nice thing > about VR sensors. Far more likely is a bad connection, or > a winding that is opening up in the sensor itself. > > You _sure_ you thoroughly cleaned the tone rings (toothy bits) > on the front wheels? I think 90% of sensor trouble is at the > front, not at the back. Much more out in harm's way, and two > of them as well. > > -- Jim > > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
Almost forgot to mention the unimportant and irrelevant Emancipation Proclamation but there I go again being naive, moralistic, and judgmental. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:18 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, I was misinformed that the Civil War wasn't really about slavery but > about commerce. My bad. > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > andrew strasfogel wrote: > > > > > > Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South > > should > > > won the war to continue the practice of slavery? > > > > That straw man has all the sophistication of a 2nd grade social studies > > lesson. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
Yeah, I was misinformed that the Civil War wasn't really about slavery but about commerce. My bad. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > andrew strasfogel wrote: > > > > Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South > should > > won the war to continue the practice of slavery? > > That straw man has all the sophistication of a 2nd grade social studies > lesson. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
The Civil War was about taxation without representation. Also, the North and the South had slaves during the Civil War. Slavery came into general disuse in the North, not because of human rights, but because the North had become more industrialized and slavery no longer fit. The South still used slavery because the South was mostly agricultural and they needed low cost labor to plant & pick the fields. Slavery was abolished after the war but this was not necessarily a good thing for Black Americans in the late 18th century. The South still needed cheap labor to plant & pick the fields and Share Cropping was invented to replaced slavery. This was essentially a new form of slavery since the share croppers were tied to the owner's land and the owners crops. But there was one key difference. Instead of being fed & housed by the plantation Owner, the share cropper was responsible for his own destiny. This may seem like a positive turn of events but you need to remember that the owner fixed the price that was paid to the share cropper & it was rarely enough money to survive on through the year. The result was an even poorer Black American population than before. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Robinson Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:59 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System I believe that war was more about tariffs and state's rights. Slavery was an issue used to "sell" it... probably like our current "War on Terror." > From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:53:13 -0500 > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System > > Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South should > won the war to continue the practice of slavery? If so, I would be amazed > to find any such on this list. > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> More of a tenth amendment/states rights issue. Both sides of that war >> undertook >> a lot of revisionist history to make the other side seem more evil. >> >> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 04:49:35PM -0600, R A Bennell wrote: >>> Ugh, would that be the freedom to own slaves?? >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel >>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:40 PM >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System >>> >>> >>> Lincoln?? I must be missing something. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1302 - Release Date: 2/27/2008 4:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1302 - Release Date: 2/27/2008 4:34 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
Depends on whether the wife in question is "chattel". On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Rich Thomas < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do wives count as people who believe that? > > --R > > andrew strasfogel wrote: > > Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South > should > > won the war to continue the practice of slavery? If so, I would be > amazed > > to find any such on this list. > > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
andrew strasfogel wrote: > > Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South should > won the war to continue the practice of slavery? That straw man has all the sophistication of a 2nd grade social studies lesson. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
Do wives count as people who believe that? --R andrew strasfogel wrote: > Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South should > won the war to continue the practice of slavery? If so, I would be amazed > to find any such on this list. > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Party on Garth!
I had a female friend back when who had a mint/lime-ish green Gremlin, she called it "Lima Bean." --R R A Bennell wrote: > My mother in law had one when it was new. That sort of caramel color that was > sort of popular at that time. They > previously had a Gremlin, in the same color. The Gremlin proved to be OK > except for having a squeaky suspension as > I recall. Not really sure how good the Pacer was. Long time ago. > > Randy > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays
They get their panels from the same Sharp factory, and just yesterday was an announcement that all 3 are investing a $bil or 2 to build another panel factory for >40" screens. The "quality" difference among them is most likely due to video signal processing differences among the various manufacturers. --R R A Bennell wrote: > Recent Comsumer Reports mag gave highest marks to Samsung TV if I recall, as > well. Sony, in 2nd place. > > Randy > > - > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
I believe that war was more about tariffs and state's rights. Slavery was an issue used to "sell" it... probably like our current "War on Terror." > From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:53:13 -0500 > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System > > Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South should > won the war to continue the practice of slavery? If so, I would be amazed > to find any such on this list. > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> More of a tenth amendment/states rights issue. Both sides of that war >> undertook >> a lot of revisionist history to make the other side seem more evil. >> >> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 04:49:35PM -0600, R A Bennell wrote: >>> Ugh, would that be the freedom to own slaves?? >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel >>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:40 PM >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System >>> >>> >>> Lincoln?? I must be missing something. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
Hey Andrew Got a Rebel Flag for the back window in your car? The South shall rise again! Got to be careful here not to offend anyone. Our trusty parts suppliers are in Atanta after all. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South should won the war to continue the practice of slavery? If so, I would be amazed to find any such on this list. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More of a tenth amendment/states rights issue. Both sides of that war > undertook > a lot of revisionist history to make the other side seem more evil. > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 04:49:35PM -0600, R A Bennell wrote: > > Ugh, would that be the freedom to own slaves?? > > > > Randy > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel > > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:40 PM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System > > > > > > Lincoln?? I must be missing something. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South should won the war to continue the practice of slavery? If so, I would be amazed to find any such on this list. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More of a tenth amendment/states rights issue. Both sides of that war > undertook > a lot of revisionist history to make the other side seem more evil. > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 04:49:35PM -0600, R A Bennell wrote: > > Ugh, would that be the freedom to own slaves?? > > > > Randy > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel > > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:40 PM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System > > > > > > Lincoln?? I must be missing something. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
More of a tenth amendment/states rights issue. Both sides of that war undertook a lot of revisionist history to make the other side seem more evil. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 04:49:35PM -0600, R A Bennell wrote: > Ugh, would that be the freedom to own slaves?? > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:40 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System > > > Lincoln?? I must be missing something. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
andrew strasfogel wrote: > > Lincoln?? I must be missing something. http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v07/v07p319_Dickson.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
Ugh, would that be the freedom to own slaves?? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System Lincoln?? I must be missing something. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:04 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Same here. > > > > > A few years ago I would have said that GWB has done more to destroy > > freedom in this country than any single man since Abraham Lincoln. Now > > I'd rank him above Abe. > > > > Mitch. > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 126 diesel mileage
If that is true, then it must be time to do it again! You got to stop driving so much. You gonna wear that car out. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 126 diesel mileage I changed the timing change at 125K IIRC, or nearly160 K miles ago. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:44 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's the chain stretch? I don't know that it can make that much of a > difference, but it will make some if it's near the limit. > > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Party on Garth!
My mother in law had one when it was new. That sort of caramel color that was sort of popular at that time. They previously had a Gremlin, in the same color. The Gremlin proved to be OK except for having a squeaky suspension as I recall. Not really sure how good the Pacer was. Long time ago. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Party on Garth! Pacer on ebay. Only 35k miles. These are so ugly, they are sort of cool. http://tinyurl.com/3bruez Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
Lincoln?? I must be missing something. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:04 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Same here. > > > > > A few years ago I would have said that GWB has done more to destroy > > freedom in this country than any single man since Abraham Lincoln. Now > > I'd rank him above Abe. > > > > Mitch. > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 126 diesel mileage
I meant timing "chain" of course... On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:37 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I changed the timing change at 125K IIRC, or nearly160 K miles ago. > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:44 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What's the chain stretch? I don't know that it can make that much of a > > difference, but it will make some if it's near the limit. > > > > > > -- > > OK Don, KD5NRO > > Norman, OK > > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > > -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain > > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Party on Garth!
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 04:30:04PM -0600, Donald Snook wrote: > Pacer on ebay. Only 35k miles. These are so ugly, they are sort of cool. > > http://tinyurl.com/3bruez Heh. I have a pacer wagon with a perkins diesel in it. One of these days, I should get it running. Weird thing, for sure. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 126 diesel mileage
I changed the timing change at 125K IIRC, or nearly160 K miles ago. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:44 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's the chain stretch? I don't know that it can make that much of a > difference, but it will make some if it's near the limit. > > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Party on Garth!
Pacer on ebay. Only 35k miles. These are so ugly, they are sort of cool. http://tinyurl.com/3bruez Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 mystery switch
>From memory, it's the antenna height over-ride. When you first turned the radio on, the original antenna came up until the radio got good reception then it stopped. But the antenna did not self adjust as you were driving and you could manually move the antenna up & down "as needed". Everyone else just ran the mast all the way up. I'd like to say that this is another example of Mercedes over Engineering. But it's not - it's an example of Becker over Engineering. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Bruckmann Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:23 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] W108 mystery switch Gang, The centre console on my 280SEL (with column shifter) has a fifth switch. It looks exactly like the single rocker switch in the rear door. The extra switch is located between the two rows of double window switches. The car doesn't have a sunroof, and in any case I believe sunroof switches were normally on the dash. Could this be the antenna height switch (the car has an electric antenna, but I doubt it is the original because it isn't a Hirschmann) or is there some other option that I don't even know I have!? D. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: %switches.jpg Type: application/applefile Size: 122 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080227/0d9 61766/attachment.bin -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: switches.jpg Type: application/octet-stream Size: 47977 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080227/0d9 61766/attachment.obj ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1302 - Release Date: 2/27/2008 4:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1302 - Release Date: 2/27/2008 4:34 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W108 mystery switch
Gang, The centre console on my 280SEL (with column shifter) has a fifth switch. It looks exactly like the single rocker switch in the rear door. The extra switch is located between the two rows of double window switches. The car doesn't have a sunroof, and in any case I believe sunroof switches were normally on the dash. Could this be the antenna height switch (the car has an electric antenna, but I doubt it is the original because it isn't a Hirschmann) or is there some other option that I don't even know I have!? D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 400E (update2)
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > i thought you wanted me to buy your 116 or something? The one in Atlanta only needs a starter or ignition switch. Mine needs an engine swap. If nothing else I could flip the one in Atlanta pretty easily. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W108 mystery switch
Gang, The centre console on my 280SEL (with column shifter) has a fifth switch. It looks exactly like the single rocker switch in the rear door. The extra switch is located between the two rows of double window switches. The car doesn't have a sunroof, and in any case I believe sunroof switches were normally on the dash. Could this be the antenna height switch (the car has an electric antenna, but I doubt it is the original because it isn't a Hirschmann) or is there some other option that I don't even know I have!? D. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: %switches.jpg Type: application/applefile Size: 122 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080227/0d961766/attachment.bin -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: switches.jpg Type: application/octet-stream Size: 47977 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080227/0d961766/attachment.obj ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Scooter charger switch
Here's a photo of the rocker switch with scooter icon that I installed in the center console of my '87 300D a few months ago. Switch controls 12V DC to inverter which supplies 120V AC to scooter mfgr's charger which supplies 28V DC to mobility scooter battery in the trunk. Wilton -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Img_1236.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1133765 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080227/1b27ab7b/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 400E (update2)
i thought you wanted me to buy your 116 or something? John Robbins wrote: > Donald Snook wrote: >> What is the Rusty price for a transmission for this car. If you >> could get them down to $1500-1800 and then put in a Rusty tranny it >> might be a great car - assuming it wasn't a Katrina victim. > > From that thread a while back, I'm presuming that a tranny would cost > about $1700-1800 from Rusty (from that long warranty question thread). > And for $3600 it starts approaching the point of not good enough of a > deal to justify having 4 MBs. > > There's a $500 '80 SD in Atlanta I'm trying to get also. Someone was in > line before me though... hopefully they haven't bought it. > > John > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 400E (update2)
If they are starting out at 28, chances are they will only come down to 2500, until it still has not sold for a year, then they might come down to 2k Donald Snook wrote: > John R. wrote: "I think I'm going to pass on it... even if I could negotiate > it down to what it should be. The ad has been updated with pics, and I have > higher res ones if anyone cares." > > http://gulfport.craigslist.org/car/587957948.html > > Have you checked on prices to replace the transmission? > > What is the Rusty price for a transmission for this car. If you could get > them down to $1500-1800 and then put in a Rusty tranny it might be a great > car - assuming it wasn't a Katrina victim. > > Donald H. Snook > > http://www.mtsqh.com/ > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high
crap. I remember when it used to cost about 12-14 to fill up my 123 diesel Dave H... wrote: > I just paid $3.49 per gallon for diesel here in SCGrr! > $64.00 to fill up to 300CD > > > > Dave H... > > -- > From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:31 PM > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high > >> Regular down .04 a litre here today. >> >> Ed >> 300E >> >> On 28/02/2008, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Are you seeing any drop in prices today? I hear on the radio that prices >>> in Toronto have gone down about $0.03 this >>> morning and it should happen accross the country shortly. I am holding >>> off >>> here on filling in the hope that they >>> are correct as the price just went up yesterday. I need to fill but am >>> not >>> going to drive much today so will wait >>> til tomorrow and see if it drops back down. It will only make a >>> difference >>> of about $3 on a fill maybe but it is >>> sort of the principle of the thing at this point. >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hendrik & Fay >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 6:55 PM >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high >>> >>> >>> OPEC is very shy of telling exactly how much they have left, so as to >>> stuff the world around. >>> Also China and other parts of the developing world are starting to use >>> up vast quantities of oil. >>> There may well be oil reserves under the oceans but getting at them will >>> require technology that is still beyond us. >>> I suppose it is in the interest of OPEC to not oversupply, cause once >>> their oil runs out it's back to herding camels in the desert. >>> >>> Hendrik >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays
Recent Comsumer Reports mag gave highest marks to Samsung TV if I recall, as well. Sony, in 2nd place. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays I got a samsung for x-mas. It is a really nice wide 22 that gave me issue on the mac because I was trying to drive it too far out of native resolution. PC Computing gives the samsungs really high reviews and they are inexpensive at the costco. Comes with both the DVI and VGA cable as well as input clay On 28 Feb 2008, at 10:06, Frederick W Moir wrote: > Hi, All. > My last CRT display died and me and the boss went looking for a new > display. Tried Staples, as we were going there for something else, > and Joanne's comment was that the LCDs on display seemed to be out of > focus. They are not as sharp as my old Dell C610, looked like less > depth of field. Does anyone have any valid suggestions for a decent > quality 19/20" wide-screen LCD? This range will fit our slim budget. > TIA > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > Diesel content:- Brushed snow off my 190DT's and the 300TD. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Damage limits (was Re: Inertia reel seatbelts)
My recollection is that there were cases from the SCC that gave multimillion dollar settlements based upon the cost of caring for severely injured folks for the rest of their lives. The, then dollar amounts were about 1 to 3 million if I recall which was sufficient to cause many of us to increase our liability coverage. Now that we have no fault insurance I suspect it would be a waste to insure for any great amount if one does not take the vehicle out of the province. Given that I occasionally run into the USA with the vehicles, it seems prudent to maintain coverage beyond the minimum just in case. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Bruckmann Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Damage limits (was Re: Inertia reel seatbelts) In the 70s, three Supreme Court of Canada decisions effectively fixed the maximum "pain and suffering" damage recovery to $100,000. That figure is indexed to inflation, so today you'd be limited to about $300k. One of the rationale for fixing the amount at the time was that awards in the US were becoming outrageous, and the court wanted to avoid the "social burden" that the threat of such large awards would cause. Having recently moved to the US from Canada, I can tell you that people here seem obsessed with protecting themselves from liability in a way that is completely unlike anything I experienced in Canada. I can only conclude that potentially large damage awards are an incentive to sue, which in turn requires everyone to obsess about liability, insurance, product labelling, etc. D. At 6:07 PM + 2/28/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >-- > >Message: 14 >Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:37:25 -0600 >From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Seeking inertia reel seatbelts W108/114/115 >To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Not sure I agree that "the law limits what can be awarded" in Canada. Part of >the issue is that we don't generally >have civil jury trials here. We get Judges who are more conservative than >juries generally are. > >The other issue is of course that some jurisdictions, like Manitoba, now have >a no fault system so we are not >permitted to sue. We get whatever the insurer has decided we will get, if >entitled to any compensation. > >Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays
I got a samsung for x-mas. It is a really nice wide 22 that gave me issue on the mac because I was trying to drive it too far out of native resolution. PC Computing gives the samsungs really high reviews and they are inexpensive at the costco. Comes with both the DVI and VGA cable as well as input clay On 28 Feb 2008, at 10:06, Frederick W Moir wrote: > Hi, All. > My last CRT display died and me and the boss went looking for a new > display. Tried Staples, as we were going there for something else, > and Joanne's comment was that the LCDs on display seemed to be out of > focus. They are not as sharp as my old Dell C610, looked like less > depth of field. Does anyone have any valid suggestions for a decent > quality 19/20" wide-screen LCD? This range will fit our slim budget. > TIA > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > Diesel content:- Brushed snow off my 190DT's and the 300TD. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dinner?
I was able to cure a neighbor dog of his unwanted attention by driving just fast enough for him to get behind me and think he was going to actually catch me. Then I slammed on the brakes. He found he was able to catch me, but not in the manner he intended. From then on, he decided not to bother with cars clay On 28 Feb 2008, at 05:22, Zoltan Finks wrote: > Yes, I wonder sometimes what it will take to get our dogs to keep from > attempting to pull me out into traffic. Funny how they seem to > think that a > car is harmless, but they will flinch and get out of the way of > everything > else. I guess it's their total lack of contact with a moving car. > But still > we're left with the quandary. How do you teach a dog to fear a car > without > injuring it or getting sued? > I did read in one book that to cure a car-chaser, you have someone > lob water > balloons out the window at the chaser. > > Brian > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> In my mind, a chicken will learn to stay away from cars. Only takes >> one teachable moment for them to figure it out. >> >> clay >> >> >> On 26 Feb 2008, at 20:08, Rich Thomas wrote: >> >>> I don't know, I figure whacking the thing with a car or a 2x4 is >>> not a >>> lot different, and if I saw it running just before its demise, I >>> know >>> it's fresh. Either me or some guest worker... >>> >>> --R >>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: <> I don't find roadkill all that appealing, somehow. RLE ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel- campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
We have a number of breeding pairs of eagle near me. I applaud the occasional missing cat or yap dog. Not so happy with the huge eagle dropping on the roof of the car. A chicken will need the same care one of the small pets would, but are smarter about looking out for danger than dogs or cats. That is why they are chicken. clay On 28 Feb 2008, at 05:04, Zoltan Finks wrote: > Thanks, Clay for the info! > > Also a little tidbit that I hear recently from someone who lives > here on the > Island: She said that there was a tall evergreen tree that fell > over. An > eagle's nest was found along with numerous cat collars. We do > always have an > abundance of missing cat posters up around here. Coyotes may > contribute too > I suppose. > > Brian > > Clay wrote:Coyote, racoon, eagles and other predators love to snag a > chicken. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
I have found that if the dog will kill a child, it would kill a chicken, so you acclimate them much the same way. Have the dog exposed to the chickens as they grow and it may decide that they are part of his pack as well as chickens figuring the dog is a really ugly rooster. If the dog is a breed meant to shepherd it will do that, if bred to attack, will do that. clay On 28 Feb 2008, at 04:54, Zoltan Finks wrote: > I was gonna mention the dog angle. > > I know that some dogs are chicken killers. I suspect my Dobie might > be one. > In fact I worry that he might be a cat killer. NO, this is not > because he > has ever killed a cat. It's because I've read in William Koehler's > (spelling > of name? too lazy to go look it up) book that most dogs would be > put in > their place by cats, but some are genuine killers of felines. And I > don't > see any indication in my Dobie that he is the former. > > BTW the late Mr. Koehler's solution to a chicken-killing dog is to > tie a > dead chicken around its neck and leave it there for a few weeks or > so. Boy > would that never fly today (again with another unintended pun). > > Brian > > Tom wrote:They are also incredibly dirty - also from first hand > observation > - > inlaws had a dog. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
Now Jim, that is a fine example of the welfare state effect on citizens. All cooped up and no need to think, they just go on looking for the hand out, dropping dead once things change. Actually Wilcox is a great operation and nothing like the tyson or purdue farms. I understand there are major changes coming for wilcox and the relationship with costco. I think I read in the paper where it was getting broken up. My hens have to fend for themselves and find ample fodder and water around the yard so that occasional oversight in keeping the feeder and watering stations full are not huge issues. Same theory one would give to one of those little yap dogs or a cat. clay On 27 Feb 2008, at 21:18, Jim Cathey wrote: >> Store chickens are not happy chickens. They are more like crack >> whore chickens forced to pop out eggs under duress. > > My father-in-law was general manager (now retired) at Wilcox > Farms, a family-owned crack-hen-whore outfit that supplies > milk and eggs to Costco here in WA. I've been on the tour. > No duress or force is applied. Spent hens go to Campbell's. > > One of his favorite stories about how smart chickens are is > from once when they were inoculating chickens. Easy way was > to move the chicken one cage over as you went down the line. > That way you didn't forget where you left off. After they > did this the chickens all stopped laying, etc. Turns out > they were thirsting to death. Couldn't figure out that the > water was now on the other side of the cage. (Two spigots > out of a waterer at the corner of every other cage.) They > shifted the chickens back over one cage and all was well > again. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATF Level Question
Sort of depends on what you are using the vehicle for etc. I have had a number of each and I guess for the most part if I have to choose I would go with an automatic. I wouldn't mind if my 115 300D was a manual but I am happy that my 02 Supercrew is not. Truck transmissions are generally not as much fun as car manual transmissions. We have the 98 F150 with a manual 5 speed and although it is alright, it is a bit of a pain in traffic. It is only a 4.2 V6 - the manual did not come with a V8 - and it is easy to bog it in 2nd and the step down to low is too far to work smoothly. Our old 4Runner, on the other hand will go way down in higher gears without bogging - a real flat torque curve I guess. It, for a truck, is a more drivable manual transmission. It is, however, a dog in the first couple of gears. Seems fine once moving but slow on takeoff. I have not driven the 2nd gen Runner with an AT but I am told it is even more of a dog. Personal preferences always, but the AT is easy and the older I get, the more I like things that are easy. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ATF Level Question Thanks Jim, and others. Great info. I'll study it a few times to try to remember it all and learn from it. I did, however, think there might be a sort of standard knowledge of how much the difference between the dipstick reading in a warm, running engine and a cold, non-running engine is. I see how things can get a whole lot more complicated, though, after reading the response. I agree totally with whomever exclaimed that they hate ATs. I hate the stuffing out of them to!!! Well, with one exception: The 727 Torqueflite behind my big block Chrysler. That model is known as "bulletproof". Never had a problem with one, and I can say that as a foolish youth I have accidentally shifted to reverse at maybe 30 mph. (not that I wouldn't make that mistake today). And I have seen many "neutral drop" from other idiots (most too young to drive). Brian On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:21 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Brian, > > the whole open area in the transmission will physically only hold about 2 > 1/2 quarts.? since your leak is probably at the torque converter seal, air > is getting in where the oil is leaking out.? This lets the torque converter > drain down into the trans case, which it normally doesn't accomplish for > some time.? The torque converter holds about 2 1/2 quarts so about half of > that could find it's way back to the trans case fairly quickly! > > Given the above scenario is true, you could actually be aggravating > (feeding) the leak by filling the trans to the full mark, which doesn't > leave enough space??for the oil to drain down.? The level in the trans case > would?get high enough that it leaks out the tq seal, even with the engine > off!? Is that the case?? Does the oil continue to drip, long after the > engine is shut off? > > I am sorry to answer your question with more questions, but here is one > more.? Have you checked the vacuum line to the transmission modulator for > signs of oil?? a cracked modulator diaphragm can let trans fluid get sucked > into the engine, agravating your fluid loss. > > Marshall (RIP) has many times said to never fill in the oil to more than > halfway between the add and the full lines.? He was mainly talking about > engine oil, but I have seen automatic transmissions, filled to the correct > hot level, blow oil out the vent on a hard run up a long hill, or more > likely, due to aeration of the fluid, caused by something as simple as a > loose filter.? We are, after all, dealing? with a well used transmission, > and quirky things can happen. > > I would start by never adding more than 1/2 quart when the dipstick gets > down to the add mark.? Lucas makes an additive for automatics which may > swell that leaking seal.?? Try to observe the drip rate with fluid at > different levels, with the engine off. > > Finally, never park with the front of the car down hill! > > Jim in Phoenx > > > -Original Message- > From: Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 5:46 am > Subject: [MBZ] ATF Level Question > > > > > Just checked the ATF earlier this evening on the 87 190D and found once > again that the stick is dry. I assure you this pains me. But I'm learning > just how often I have to add fluid to the leaky tranny. Heaven forefend > the > wife would ever check it. > And I pulled the dipstick again a few minutes ago with engine off and > cooled > down. I found that the fluid level is just a bit above the full line. This > all makes sense, but it reminded me of when I was dealing with the seller > out in California. He, a plastic surgeon (so not a totally stupid man) was > so sure that the trans fluid should be checked with the engine off. And > when > I sho
[MBZ] Damage limits (was Re: Inertia reel seatbelts)
In the 70s, three Supreme Court of Canada decisions effectively fixed the maximum "pain and suffering" damage recovery to $100,000. That figure is indexed to inflation, so today you'd be limited to about $300k. One of the rationale for fixing the amount at the time was that awards in the US were becoming outrageous, and the court wanted to avoid the "social burden" that the threat of such large awards would cause. Having recently moved to the US from Canada, I can tell you that people here seem obsessed with protecting themselves from liability in a way that is completely unlike anything I experienced in Canada. I can only conclude that potentially large damage awards are an incentive to sue, which in turn requires everyone to obsess about liability, insurance, product labelling, etc. D. At 6:07 PM + 2/28/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >-- > >Message: 14 >Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:37:25 -0600 >From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Seeking inertia reel seatbelts W108/114/115 >To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Not sure I agree that "the law limits what can be awarded" in Canada. Part of >the issue is that we don't generally >have civil jury trials here. We get Judges who are more conservative than >juries generally are. > >The other issue is of course that some jurisdictions, like Manitoba, now have >a no fault system so we are not >permitted to sue. We get whatever the insurer has decided we will get, if >entitled to any compensation. > >Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Cars! And loose dogs who chase them
I've owned and loved dogs for 50+ years. Had one in our neighborhood that chased cars and bikes. Did minor scraps to one of the kids. Kids Dad put a rag under his hubcap and drove by. Dog grapped the rag, wrong his neck, problem dog was "Fixed" Very humane in my Yankee opinion. Pete -- Original message -- From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reminds me of this Border Collie on my commute back home from school last > year. As any good Border would do, it not only crouched and gave "the > stare", it laid down and actually had its chin on the ground as it stalked > the approaching cars. The most scary thing is that its nose was right at the > pavement's edge (with no paved shoulder). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATF Level Question
Thanks Jim, and others. Great info. I'll study it a few times to try to remember it all and learn from it. I did, however, think there might be a sort of standard knowledge of how much the difference between the dipstick reading in a warm, running engine and a cold, non-running engine is. I see how things can get a whole lot more complicated, though, after reading the response. I agree totally with whomever exclaimed that they hate ATs. I hate the stuffing out of them to!!! Well, with one exception: The 727 Torqueflite behind my big block Chrysler. That model is known as "bulletproof". Never had a problem with one, and I can say that as a foolish youth I have accidentally shifted to reverse at maybe 30 mph. (not that I wouldn't make that mistake today). And I have seen many "neutral drop" from other idiots (most too young to drive). Brian On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:21 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Brian, > > the whole open area in the transmission will physically only hold about 2 > 1/2 quarts.? since your leak is probably at the torque converter seal, air > is getting in where the oil is leaking out.? This lets the torque converter > drain down into the trans case, which it normally doesn't accomplish for > some time.? The torque converter holds about 2 1/2 quarts so about half of > that could find it's way back to the trans case fairly quickly! > > Given the above scenario is true, you could actually be aggravating > (feeding) the leak by filling the trans to the full mark, which doesn't > leave enough space??for the oil to drain down.? The level in the trans case > would?get high enough that it leaks out the tq seal, even with the engine > off!? Is that the case?? Does the oil continue to drip, long after the > engine is shut off? > > I am sorry to answer your question with more questions, but here is one > more.? Have you checked the vacuum line to the transmission modulator for > signs of oil?? a cracked modulator diaphragm can let trans fluid get sucked > into the engine, agravating your fluid loss. > > Marshall (RIP) has many times said to never fill in the oil to more than > halfway between the add and the full lines.? He was mainly talking about > engine oil, but I have seen automatic transmissions, filled to the correct > hot level, blow oil out the vent on a hard run up a long hill, or more > likely, due to aeration of the fluid, caused by something as simple as a > loose filter.? We are, after all, dealing? with a well used transmission, > and quirky things can happen. > > I would start by never adding more than 1/2 quart when the dipstick gets > down to the add mark.? Lucas makes an additive for automatics which may > swell that leaking seal.?? Try to observe the drip rate with fluid at > different levels, with the engine off. > > Finally, never park with the front of the car down hill! > > Jim in Phoenx > > > -Original Message- > From: Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 5:46 am > Subject: [MBZ] ATF Level Question > > > > > Just checked the ATF earlier this evening on the 87 190D and found once > again that the stick is dry. I assure you this pains me. But I'm learning > just how often I have to add fluid to the leaky tranny. Heaven forefend > the > wife would ever check it. > And I pulled the dipstick again a few minutes ago with engine off and > cooled > down. I found that the fluid level is just a bit above the full line. This > all makes sense, but it reminded me of when I was dealing with the seller > out in California. He, a plastic surgeon (so not a totally stupid man) was > so sure that the trans fluid should be checked with the engine off. And > when > I showed him that the dipstick was dry with engine running, he said "yes, > that's how it should be. When you shut it off and check it, the level is > right." I proceeded to show him in the manual where it states that the > trans > fluid should be checked with engine running and trans in "park". > > Question is: If the fluid level is just above the full line (the highest > of > the two marks on the dipstick) with the engine off and cool, how low is > the > transmission on fluid? > > The reason I ask this is that it is very difficult to achieve a clear > reading on that dipstick. One side will have something approaching a clear > reading, and the other side will have fluid running half way up the stick. > I > suppose checking the dipstick after adding fluid contributes to this > problem, but even when I don't do that, it's still really hard to get a > clear reading. > > Thanks, > Brian > 87 190D > 83 240D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > Fo
Re: [MBZ] OT Cars! And loose dogs who chase them
i live in a suburban area about 25 miles east of atlanta. most people own at least one dog. about 20% let the dogs run free. this initially alarmed me, but i soon discovered that everyone (including animal control) just accepts it so i only do anything now if a dog is proven to be vicious. I think it's kind of crazy, but more country minded persons don't get how anyone could be against it. the worst i have to deal with now is a white pit mix who loves people but is a tad dog aggressive. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reminds me of this Border Collie on my commute back home from school last > year. As any good Border would do, it not only crouched and gave "the > stare", it laid down and actually had its chin on the ground as it stalked > the approaching cars. The most scary thing is that its nose was right at > the > pavement's edge (with no paved shoulder). > > It used to really irritate me actually, as I didn't want the damage to my > car or the trauma of nailing a dog in the road, then having to decide > whether to go back and attempt to rescue it as it flailed and suffered, > and > to try to contact the dog's owners and face their wrath and hysteria and > sorrow. > > On the other hand, maybe as farmers they would take the news in much more > stoic fashion and chalk it up to a dog that was no good 'cause it got ran > over and couldn't stay out of the way of cars. At any rate, I really > wanted > to ask them to contain their dog. In fact I tried to call the local > sheriff > dept. but couldn't find the number. > > As for dogs and bicycles: That irritates me even more. I know a woman from > our cycling group that had to be airlifted to the hospital because of a > dog > that chased her and made her crash. She is not ever going to be the same. > I > feel so badly for her. But as far as I know, she did not seek to call the > dog's owners to responsibility for this. > > I'm a dog lover, but I really am not as enchanted at the idea of dogs > running loose as a lot of people are. > > Brian > > > > Mitch wrote: > > There's a dog which likes to lay in the ditch (for the last 8-10 years) > > and then race whatever comes along. Never goes into the road. When I > > drove by the other day, he gave himself a 200 foot head start, didn't > > wait for me to get to the starting line. Maybe he's getting older? > > I caught him near the edge of the field next to the yard. Not sure what > > he considers the finish line, he usually pulls up and stops near the > > center of the field. I haven't paced him on the bicycle for a few > > years, but IIRC he used to be able to be able to accelerate quite > > smartly to 30-35mph. > > > > Mitch. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Cars! And loose dogs who chase them
Reminds me of this Border Collie on my commute back home from school last year. As any good Border would do, it not only crouched and gave "the stare", it laid down and actually had its chin on the ground as it stalked the approaching cars. The most scary thing is that its nose was right at the pavement's edge (with no paved shoulder). It used to really irritate me actually, as I didn't want the damage to my car or the trauma of nailing a dog in the road, then having to decide whether to go back and attempt to rescue it as it flailed and suffered, and to try to contact the dog's owners and face their wrath and hysteria and sorrow. On the other hand, maybe as farmers they would take the news in much more stoic fashion and chalk it up to a dog that was no good 'cause it got ran over and couldn't stay out of the way of cars. At any rate, I really wanted to ask them to contain their dog. In fact I tried to call the local sheriff dept. but couldn't find the number. As for dogs and bicycles: That irritates me even more. I know a woman from our cycling group that had to be airlifted to the hospital because of a dog that chased her and made her crash. She is not ever going to be the same. I feel so badly for her. But as far as I know, she did not seek to call the dog's owners to responsibility for this. I'm a dog lover, but I really am not as enchanted at the idea of dogs running loose as a lot of people are. Brian > Mitch wrote: There's a dog which likes to lay in the ditch (for the last 8-10 years) > and then race whatever comes along. Never goes into the road. When I > drove by the other day, he gave himself a 200 foot head start, didn't > wait for me to get to the starting line. Maybe he's getting older? > I caught him near the edge of the field next to the yard. Not sure what > he considers the finish line, he usually pulls up and stops near the > center of the field. I haven't paced him on the bicycle for a few > years, but IIRC he used to be able to be able to accelerate quite > smartly to 30-35mph. > > Mitch. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: LCD Displays
Allan Streib wrote: > Are there any adapters that let you put a TV signal (e.g. from a > portable DVD player, etc) into a computer monitor? I'm sure there are, but they're probably around $100. You can also get a TV tuner for about $50, and then you can record TV shows to the computer. Also, you can take the route my brother did... he bought a 26" 720p TV that has a VGA input. Resolution is something like 1370x800. He can do PiP with the monitor & TV running at the same time. If going that route, I'd get a 1080p TV... much better resolution. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 400E (update2)
Donald Snook wrote: > What is the Rusty price for a transmission for this car. If you > could get them down to $1500-1800 and then put in a Rusty tranny it > might be a great car - assuming it wasn't a Katrina victim. From that thread a while back, I'm presuming that a tranny would cost about $1700-1800 from Rusty (from that long warranty question thread). And for $3600 it starts approaching the point of not good enough of a deal to justify having 4 MBs. There's a $500 '80 SD in Atlanta I'm trying to get also. Someone was in line before me though... hopefully they haven't bought it. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: LCD Displays
Are there any adapters that let you put a TV signal (e.g. from a portable DVD player, etc) into a computer monitor? On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:44:26 -0800 (PST), "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Pretty common when an LCD is run at a non-native resolution. > For instance my 17" Samsung is rated for max 1280x1024, crank it down to > 1024x768 and it gets blurry. > Crank it down again (I can't remember, not to 800x600 but something just > above) and its a native resolution and its sharp again... > > 19" will have the same resolution as a 17" (usually) so 1280x1024. IIRC > the change is at 22" where you get 1600x1280. > > Oops, I just checked and the Samsung 20" gets more resolution than the > 17", I was saving up for a 22-23" but maybe will go with the 20... > > -Curt > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: LCD Displays
Pretty common when an LCD is run at a non-native resolution. For instance my 17" Samsung is rated for max 1280x1024, crank it down to 1024x768 and it gets blurry. Crank it down again (I can't remember, not to 800x600 but something just above) and its a native resolution and its sharp again... 19" will have the same resolution as a 17" (usually) so 1280x1024. IIRC the change is at 22" where you get 1600x1280. Oops, I just checked and the Samsung 20" gets more resolution than the 17", I was saving up for a 22-23" but maybe will go with the 20... -Curt Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:06:32 -0500 From: Frederick W Moir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays To: Mercedes Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Hi, All. My last CRT display died and me and the boss went looking for a new display. Tried Staples, as we were going there for something else, and Joanne's comment was that the LCDs on display seemed to be out of focus. They are not as sharp as my old Dell C610, looked like less depth of field. Does anyone have any valid suggestions for a decent quality 19/20" wide-screen LCD? This range will fit our slim budget. TIA Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel content:- Brushed snow off my 190DT's and the 300TD. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 400E (update2)
John R. wrote: "I think I'm going to pass on it... even if I could negotiate it down to what it should be. The ad has been updated with pics, and I have higher res ones if anyone cares." http://gulfport.craigslist.org/car/587957948.html Have you checked on prices to replace the transmission? What is the Rusty price for a transmission for this car. If you could get them down to $1500-1800 and then put in a Rusty tranny it might be a great car - assuming it wasn't a Katrina victim. Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays
Frederick W Moir wrote: > My last CRT display died and me and the boss went looking for a new > display. Tried Staples, as we were going there for something else, > and Joanne's comment was that the LCDs on display seemed to be out of > focus. They are not as sharp as my old Dell C610, looked like less > depth of field. Does anyone have any valid suggestions for a decent > quality 19/20" wide-screen LCD? This range will fit our slim budget. You should be able to get a good 19/20" for less than $200. One of the things about clarity is that if an LCD is not run at the resolution it was designed for, it will look very blurry. Not sure if that was the case on the ones you were looking at, but it might just be the case. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATF Level Question
Jim in Phoenix wrote: "Have you checked the vacuum line to the transmission modulator for signs of oil?? a cracked modulator diaphragm can let trans fluid get sucked into the engine, agravating your fluid loss." That is exactly what happened to my 82 300D. You won't notice it running badly because, of course, a little transmission fluid isn't going to hurt a diesel. I replaced the vacuum modulator (because the shifts were way too hard and I couldn't adjust it more). That fixed the shifting problem and the leak. Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high
I just paid $3.49 per gallon for diesel here in SCGrr! $64.00 to fill up to 300CD Dave H... -- From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:31 PM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high > Regular down .04 a litre here today. > > Ed > 300E > > On 28/02/2008, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Are you seeing any drop in prices today? I hear on the radio that prices >> in Toronto have gone down about $0.03 this >> morning and it should happen accross the country shortly. I am holding >> off >> here on filling in the hope that they >> are correct as the price just went up yesterday. I need to fill but am >> not >> going to drive much today so will wait >> til tomorrow and see if it drops back down. It will only make a >> difference >> of about $3 on a fill maybe but it is >> sort of the principle of the thing at this point. >> >> Randy >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hendrik & Fay >> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 6:55 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high >> >> >> OPEC is very shy of telling exactly how much they have left, so as to >> stuff the world around. >> Also China and other parts of the developing world are starting to use >> up vast quantities of oil. >> There may well be oil reserves under the oceans but getting at them will >> require technology that is still beyond us. >> I suppose it is in the interest of OPEC to not oversupply, cause once >> their oil runs out it's back to herding camels in the desert. >> >> Hendrik >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT LCD Displays
Samsung 1920x1200 resolution, they come in various sizes, and make sure your video card can drive it to that resolution. Also look at contrast ratio -- the cheap ones are like 1000:1, the Samsungs are 3000:1. That makes a big difference. A good TV LCD is now up over 10k:1, maybe higher. --R Frederick W Moir wrote: > Hi, All. > My last CRT display died and me and the boss went looking for a new > display. Tried Staples, as we were going there for something else, > and Joanne's comment was that the LCDs on display seemed to be out of > focus. They are not as sharp as my old Dell C610, looked like less > depth of field. Does anyone have any valid suggestions for a decent > quality 19/20" wide-screen LCD? This range will fit our slim budget. > TIA > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > Diesel content:- Brushed snow off my 190DT's and the 300TD. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
