Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

[Dan Penoff]

There is. I used to use it in my Virago.

Dan

On Feb 14, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Brian Toscano  wrote:

> I think there is a V-Twin 20w-50.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
>> I hate to be "that guy" but I can't stop myself.
>> 
>> 
>> Mobil 1 20w50 = doesn't exist.
>> I think you mean 15w50. I've been getting it in 5 quart jugs at Wal-Mart
>> pretty reliably. The ONLY reason I'll go to Wal-Mart.
>> 
>> My local Autozone and CarQuest will order in whatever I want, just have to
>> ask. CarQuest even carries some RoyalPurple. Not all the weights but they'd
>> order different weights if I wanted them.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:07:27 -0500
>> From: Tony Wirtel 
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> 
>>> 
>>> Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992
>>> 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has
>>> done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot
>>> of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it.
>>> 
>>> I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my
>>> purchase as well (Tony?)
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> 
>> Hi Dan-
>> 
>> I ran M1 20w50 for a time but still had occasional tapping on startup after
>> the car sat for 3-5 days so switched over to Movil Delvac 15w-40 (1300
>> maybe?) which was much cheaper and easier to consistently find.  Prior to
>> M1 I used to use Chevron Delo 400 but after one change the hot (summer
>> stop-and-go hot) oil pressure at idle dropped to .5 bar right after the
>> change I switched to 20w50 M1.  I hated throwing away oil with less than
>> 200 miles on it- but w/the M1 saw pretty consistent lowest readings of
>> 1.1-1.2 bar (hot weather/ full AC/stop and go).  But M1 supply was spotty
>> at best so switched over to Delvac, with no change in lowest/worst case oil
>> pressure.  Now, the car used about 1 quart between changes so for that I'd
>> use any 20w50 or 15w40- I think I gave you whatever I had when you got the
>> car.
>> 
>> Glad to hear she's still going- I had an "uh oh" moment when you sent the
>> email saying one of the cars got totaled out.  Did you ever get the AC back
>> up?
>> 
>> Tony Wirtel
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!

[Dan Penoff]

My youngest son just sort of beat his last speeding ticket (his third in as 
many years!)

He got two continuances, hoping the LEO who wrote the ticket wouldn't appear, 
but he did.

He got it knocked down to 6 mph over the limit because he showed that he had 
recently had his speedo worked on, which he had. The officer used his cruiser's 
speedo to "clock" him, so he argued that the manufacturer's tolerances were a 
certain percentage of the stated value, and backed it up with data from Ford 
(it was a Crown Vic.)

He said the cop was pissed as heck.

Dan

On Feb 14, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:

> Sorry...deleted all of 1st post accidentally just before hitting send.
> 
> In Maine, unfortunately, you will pay no matter what.  If you want to keep it 
> off of your record, you need to hire an atty.
> 
> Sorry.
> 
> BTW,  New Hampshire is worse.
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:54 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
>> I got pulled over this afternoon on the Maine Turnpike. Trooper claimed that 
>> I was doing 78mph. I don't agree but my speedo doesn't work. When I'm doing 
>> 78 mph, I:
>> 1) realize that I'm speeding.
>> 2) am intentionally trying to push my car to its limit.
>> 
>> Neither condition was met. I told the trooper that 78 was pushing the top 
>> speed limit of my car and that I didn't believe that was the case. I asked 
>> him to show me the radar reading but he rudely insisted that the machine 
>> could not lock in the speed. Don't they have to be able to produce evidence 
>> such as a radar reading? Is this worth appealing?
>> 
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[MBZ] OT Snowmobiles and Jets

[Rich Thomas]

Loud, dangerous, could blow up -- what's not to like?

http://hackaday.com/2013/02/15/pulse-jet-snowmobile-or-what-swedes-do-during-hibernation/

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Re: [MBZ] OT Snowmobiles and Jets

[Jim Cathey]

Throw a couple of wings on and fly over the Channel!

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT Snowmobiles and Jets

[Frederick Moir]

Itz da bombe!
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.


>
> From: Jim Cathey 
>To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Snowmobiles and Jets
> 
>Throw a couple of wings on and fly over the Channel!
>
>-- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!

[Curt Raymond]

Theres really only 3 or 4 things that could go wrong. The cable breaking seems 
like it should have made some noise first. I wonder if it just fell off the 
back of the speedo? That'd be a nice easy fix.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 00:06:00 -0500
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!
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Not sure what's wrong with it. I need to pull the cluster and troubleshoot. I 
suspect the cable is broken as both the odo and speedo stopped working 
suddenly. Thanks for the offer on the speedometer! I'll check to see if its not 
just a cable and let you know.
I'll be in Maine on Monday but the snowmobiling sounds like fun:)


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 14, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Maybe one of us should ask whats wrong with the old speedo? I've got a 
> working 1983 replacement.
> 
> Actually I've got another unknown (probably working) one too (which would 
> keep me from having to break up a known good cluster) that Andrew sold me 
> some years ago. Anyway either (or both) are yours for the asking if needed. 
> We're supposed to have snow this weekend but you could come out Monday for 
> snowmobiling (I'll actually be in Leominster but thats east of here) and 
> pickup.
> 
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

[Curt Raymond]

Rats, you're right.

Its spendy stuff, last I checked it was $9/qt but that was when 15w50 was 
$6/qt...

I used M1 5w40 in my motorcycles (both asian bikes) with excellent results. 
Loads of people told me I'd have troubles with clutch slippage but I haven't 
seen that. I guess if you use the "energy conserving" oil that can happen but 
that badge isn't on the 5w40.

-Curt


Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:20:22 -0700
From: Brian Toscano 
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I think there is a V-Twin 20w-50.


On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> I hate to be "that guy" but I can't stop myself.
>
>
> Mobil 1 20w50 = doesn't exist.
> I think you mean 15w50. I've been getting it in 5 quart jugs at Wal-Mart
> pretty reliably. The ONLY reason I'll go to Wal-Mart.
>
> My local Autozone and CarQuest will order in whatever I want, just have to
> ask. CarQuest even carries some RoyalPurple. Not all the weights but they'd
> order different weights if I wanted them.
>
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!

[Curt Raymond]

I never noticed any difference in max speed between my '78 240D and the '83 
240D I used to have. Max speed is governor limited and 5500rpm is 5500rpm no 
matter which way you slice it. The '78 is slightly slower to get there but only 
slightly.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:44:26 -0500
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Tim Crone wrote:
> I thought older 240Ds indeed did top out at 78?  Not sure what Dmitri
> has.  I don't think my '74 ever broke 80, and if it was possible I
> think that car would have done it.


Good point. There's probably 5mph or so difference between a 1980 or newer big 
cam 240D and an earlier model. Probably a few mph difference between auto and 
manual trans too.

Your honor, The officer admits his radar was not functioning properly, so he 
simply guessed at my speed. The ticket should be dismissed for lack of 
competent 
evidence. The top speed of my car is 78-80mph, and it takes considerable effort 
to achieve that. You'd have to be really trying to go over 75mph. I wasn't 
trying that day.

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Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!

[ernest breakfield]

the officers testimony of an "estimate" of your speed is enough in some 
states; you'll need to check the laws where you're at.
the way the judge looks at it, the officer is a professional 
trained in this sort of thing; you're not.



cheers!
e

On 14/Feb/13 20:57, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

What does an attorney have to do with keeping it off my record?  The officer 
has no proof as he can't produce a radar read. Wouldn't the court see that?

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 14, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:


Sorry...deleted all of 1st post accidentally just before hitting send.

In Maine, unfortunately, you will pay no matter what.  If you want to keep it 
off of your record, you need to hire an atty.

Sorry.

BTW,  New Hampshire is worse.

Jon


On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:54 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:


I got pulled over this afternoon on the Maine Turnpike. Trooper claimed that I 
was doing 78mph. I don't agree but my speedo doesn't work. When I'm doing 78 
mph, I:
1) realize that I'm speeding.
2) am intentionally trying to push my car to its limit.

Neither condition was met. I told the trooper that 78 was pushing the top speed 
limit of my car and that I didn't believe that was the case. I asked him to 
show me the radar reading but he rudely insisted that the machine could not 
lock in the speed. Don't they have to be able to produce evidence such as a 
radar reading? Is this worth appealing?

Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!

[Randy Bennell]

On 15/02/2013 11:35 AM, ernest breakfield wrote:
the officers testimony of an "estimate" of your speed is enough in 
some states; you'll need to check the laws where you're at.
the way the judge looks at it, the officer is a professional 
trained in this sort of thing; you're not.



cheers!
e


How much over the limit were you?


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!

[Fmiser]

> Curt Raymond wrote:

> I never noticed any difference in max speed between my '78
> 240D and the '83 240D I used to have. Max speed is governor
> limited and 5500rpm is 5500rpm no matter which way you slice
> it. The '78 is slightly slower to get there but only slightly.

Yeah - but a 240d isn't limited by the governor in 4th gear.
It's limited by the available power and air resistance.

With 175/82 tires (I think that's about what a 175SR14 is), a
3.69 differential ratio, and 1:1 top gear - 5250 RPM equals 97
MPH [156 km/h].  I think that's the "shortest" differential and
a rather small tire.  Nitske lists 86 MPH [138 km/h] as the top
speed for the early car which would be about 4350 RPM.  The
post-'79 is listed with a top speed of 89 MPH [143 km/h] which
is about 4500 RPM.

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] OT anyone need a camera or two?

[OK Don]

You can still get film - might have to process it yourself though. Looks
like he has one bid - more than I expected.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Hendrik and fay  wrote:

> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Huge-**lot-of-old-cameras-collection-**
> for-Sale-1-000-Pieces-of-SLR-**RF-Medium-/190796013023?afsrc=**1
> Pile of old crap if you ask me, do they even still make film.
>
> Hendrik
> who has an old digital camera
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[MBZ] ODBII & MB Diagnostic Connector

[Dan Penoff]

Just for grins I ordered an adapter that allows the connection of an ODBII 
reader to the 38 pin diagnostic connector on my S500, which is one year prior 
to the adoption of ODBII.

I can't seem to find anything that describes what I should be able to see on 
the reader when I connect it to the car.

For $3.00 I'm willing to risk a try, just curious as to if anyone else has ever 
used one of these.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] ODBII & MB Diagnostic Connector

[Rich Thomas]

Try OBDII

Why would you expect to see anything with an OBD reader if the car is 
not putting out anything an OBD reader could understand?  (Not being a 
smartass, just seems like the basic question)


Is there an adapter that might go to USB and something running on a 
laptop that could understand whatever the car is talking?


I built some little circuit thing to see the ALDL output from my 87 
Chebbie truck on a laptop, and ran some software some guy in Sweden or 
somewhere wrote, it actually was kinda cool to see the various 
parameters but ultimately worthless for adjusting anything on the truck.


--R

On 2/15/13 1:13 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Just for grins I ordered an adapter that allows the connection of an ODBII 
reader to the 38 pin diagnostic connector on my S500, which is one year prior 
to the adoption of ODBII.

I can't seem to find anything that describes what I should be able to see on 
the reader when I connect it to the car.

For $3.00 I'm willing to risk a try, just curious as to if anyone else has ever 
used one of these.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!

[Curt Raymond]

Interesting, I'd always thought there had to be a limiter because you can feel 
it just sort of stop accelerating. Or my '83 you could anyway, something is 
wrong with my '78, its sometimes (but not always) down on power...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:11:04 -0600
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> Curt Raymond wrote:

> I never noticed any difference in max speed between my '78
> 240D and the '83 240D I used to have. Max speed is governor
> limited and 5500rpm is 5500rpm no matter which way you slice
> it. The '78 is slightly slower to get there but only slightly.

Yeah - but a 240d isn't limited by the governor in 4th gear.
It's limited by the available power and air resistance.

With 175/82 tires (I think that's about what a 175SR14 is), a
3.69 differential ratio, and 1:1 top gear - 5250 RPM equals 97
MPH [156 km/h].  I think that's the "shortest" differential and
a rather small tire.  Nitske lists 86 MPH [138 km/h] as the top
speed for the early car which would be about 4350 RPM.  The
post-'79 is listed with a top speed of 89 MPH [143 km/h] which
is about 4500 RPM.

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] ODBII & MB Diagnostic Connector

[Dan Penoff]

>From what I have been able to discover, there are some signals present at the 
>38 pin connector that can be read by the ODBII reader, but they are limited.

I have seen the LED readers that you can build to read the DTC codes from the 
connector, but haven't had a chance to try one.

There is a possibility that my car has an ODBII connector, as MB was 
transitioning to this during the 95 model year to be in full compliance by MY 
96 when it was required.

Never looked for a connector since I thought the car was too old to have one. 
I'll be checking for it this weekend.

Dan

On Feb 15, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Rich Thomas  
wrote:

> Try OBDII
> 
> Why would you expect to see anything with an OBD reader if the car is not 
> putting out anything an OBD reader could understand?  (Not being a smartass, 
> just seems like the basic question)
> 
> Is there an adapter that might go to USB and something running on a laptop 
> that could understand whatever the car is talking?
> 
> I built some little circuit thing to see the ALDL output from my 87 Chebbie 
> truck on a laptop, and ran some software some guy in Sweden or somewhere 
> wrote, it actually was kinda cool to see the various parameters but 
> ultimately worthless for adjusting anything on the truck.
> 
> --R
> 
> On 2/15/13 1:13 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
>> Just for grins I ordered an adapter that allows the connection of an ODBII 
>> reader to the 38 pin diagnostic connector on my S500, which is one year 
>> prior to the adoption of ODBII.
>> 
>> I can't seem to find anything that describes what I should be able to see on 
>> the reader when I connect it to the car.
>> 
>> For $3.00 I'm willing to risk a try, just curious as to if anyone else has 
>> ever used one of these.
>> 
>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!

[Dieselhead]

My youngest son just sort of beat his last speeding ticket (his 
third in as many years!)


He got two continuances, hoping the LEO who wrote the ticket 
wouldn't appear, but he did.


He got it knocked down to 6 mph over the limit because he showed 
that he had recently had his speedo worked on, which he had. The 
officer used his cruiser's speedo to "clock" him, so he argued that 
the manufacturer's tolerances were a certain percentage of the 
stated value, and backed it up with data from Ford (it was a Crown 
Vic.)


He said the cop was pissed as heck.

Dan


You've gotta be careful about them (POd lEO).  They often start 
hunting the kid to "get even"  With the current attitude/training 
where they believe everyone they stop is a terrorist, it is pretty 
easy for them to make claims with little or no substantiation.  Then 
they can escalate the "incident"  May be a good time to put him in a 
different car.


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Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!

[Dan Penoff]

He is in a different car and he got a ride from the girlfriend to his court 
appearance.

We already went over this prior to his court date. I also had my lawyer buddy 
give him a quick overview of what is and isn't legal in a Terry stop. You can 
never be too carful these days...

Dan

On Feb 15, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> My youngest son just sort of beat his last speeding ticket (his third in as 
>> many years!)
>> 
>> He got two continuances, hoping the LEO who wrote the ticket wouldn't 
>> appear, but he did.
>> 
>> He got it knocked down to 6 mph over the limit because he showed that he had 
>> recently had his speedo worked on, which he had. The officer used his 
>> cruiser's speedo to "clock" him, so he argued that the manufacturer's 
>> tolerances were a certain percentage of the stated value, and backed it up 
>> with data from Ford (it was a Crown Vic.)
>> 
>> He said the cop was pissed as heck.
>> 
>> Dan
> 
> You've gotta be careful about them (POd lEO).  They often start hunting the 
> kid to "get even"  With the current attitude/training where they believe 
> everyone they stop is a terrorist, it is pretty easy for them to make claims 
> with little or no substantiation.  Then they can escalate the "incident"  May 
> be a good time to put him in a different car.
> 
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[MBZ] Road Trip

[Craig]

In preparing last weekend for our trip to the greater Phoenix area this
week, I noticed that I last changed oil on our '95 E320 7500 miles and
more than a year ago (a problem when you have extended oil changes and
don't drive too much). With some help from a neighbor and his son, we
used the Topsider and changed the oil (Mobil1 0W-40) and filter and
rotated the tires LF -> LR, LR -> RF, RF -> RR, RR -> LF.

So, 1224 miles, two doctor's appointments, and a couple of MRIs later, we
are back home. We left about 1030 on Monday morning, made it to Holbrook,
AZ, after the snowstorm had blown through and the roads to that point were
clear. We then abandoned I-40 and took side roads through Heber-Overgaard
and Payson into Chandler, AZ, arriving at 2100. Some of the side roads,
like 260, were snow-packed, but the Nokian WRG2s handled things just
fine. On the way back yesterday, we took I-17 north out of Phoenix, had
lunch in Flagstaff, and drove I-40 east to Albuquerque. North on I-25 to
Santa Fe and 84/285 and NM 502 brought us back to Los Alamos last night
shortly after 2100.

The car performed just fine. 75 mph on the Interstates was enjoyable and,
except for all of the semis on I-40, stressless. Despite this car's
cruise control's setting idiosyncracies, having the cruise control was a
big help. I noticed in Phoenix that the upshift delay started working, but
didn't take time to try to clear the Check Engine Light.

The neurosurgeon there said I have severe compression of my spinal cord
and said he wanted me in a cervical collar immediately in case I fall or
am in an automobile accident before the surgery. His staff is arranging
the surgery, which will be in 3 - 6 weeks.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Road Trip

[Rusty Cullens]

Good luck Craig, please keep us posted.

Rusty Cullens
buyMBparts, Inc.
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Suite 260
Atlanta, GA 30360
 
800-741-5252
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-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 3:14 PM
To: mercedes
Subject: [MBZ] Road Trip

In preparing last weekend for our trip to the greater Phoenix area this
week, I noticed that I last changed oil on our '95 E320 7500 miles and more
than a year ago (a problem when you have extended oil changes and don't
drive too much). With some help from a neighbor and his son, we used the
Topsider and changed the oil (Mobil1 0W-40) and filter and rotated the tires
LF -> LR, LR -> RF, RF -> RR, RR -> LF.

So, 1224 miles, two doctor's appointments, and a couple of MRIs later, we
are back home. We left about 1030 on Monday morning, made it to Holbrook,
AZ, after the snowstorm had blown through and the roads to that point were
clear. We then abandoned I-40 and took side roads through Heber-Overgaard
and Payson into Chandler, AZ, arriving at 2100. Some of the side roads, like
260, were snow-packed, but the Nokian WRG2s handled things just fine. On the
way back yesterday, we took I-17 north out of Phoenix, had lunch in
Flagstaff, and drove I-40 east to Albuquerque. North on I-25 to Santa Fe and
84/285 and NM 502 brought us back to Los Alamos last night shortly after
2100.

The car performed just fine. 75 mph on the Interstates was enjoyable and,
except for all of the semis on I-40, stressless. Despite this car's cruise
control's setting idiosyncracies, having the cruise control was a big help.
I noticed in Phoenix that the upshift delay started working, but didn't take
time to try to clear the Check Engine Light.

The neurosurgeon there said I have severe compression of my spinal cord and
said he wanted me in a cervical collar immediately in case I fall or am in
an automobile accident before the surgery. His staff is arranging the
surgery, which will be in 3 - 6 weeks.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

[Mitch Haley]

Curt Raymond wrote:


I used M1 5w40 in my motorcycles (both asian bikes) with excellent results. Loads of 
people told me I'd have troubles with clutch slippage but I haven't seen that. I guess if 
you use the "energy conserving" oil that can happen but that badge isn't on the 
5w40.


Back in the 1980s I tried 15w50 in my CB200 when it became available. (M1 was 
initially 5w30)


Couldn't break the clutch loose by rolling on the throttle, but if I launched it 
hard or shifted fast, the clutch could not pull the engine (all 16hp of it) down 
to match road speed. Dumping the clutch at a standing start would just let the 
engine rev until the bike caught up to the engine's speed.


After my next oil change, it went back to normal behavior, in which dumping the 
clutch from standstill would result in wheelspin and a little wheelie, and 
shifting under power would result in the bike lunging forward instead of clutch 
slipping.


I suppose it all depends on how strong the clutch is in relation to the engine, 
but 1980s Mobil One definitely reduced the friction in a wet clutch as compared 
to dino oils of the time.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Road Trip

[Rich Thomas]

Spoken like a true car guy, first an extensive report on the car, then 
OBTW my neck is really messed up.


Good luck with it all!

--R


On 2/15/13 3:13 PM, Craig wrote:

In preparing last weekend for our trip to the greater Phoenix area this
week, I noticed that I last changed oil on our '95 E320 7500 miles and
more than a year ago (a problem when you have extended oil changes and
don't drive too much). With some help from a neighbor and his son, we
used the Topsider and changed the oil (Mobil1 0W-40) and filter and
rotated the tires LF -> LR, LR -> RF, RF -> RR, RR -> LF.

So, 1224 miles, two doctor's appointments, and a couple of MRIs later, we
are back home. We left about 1030 on Monday morning, made it to Holbrook,
AZ, after the snowstorm had blown through and the roads to that point were
clear. We then abandoned I-40 and took side roads through Heber-Overgaard
and Payson into Chandler, AZ, arriving at 2100. Some of the side roads,
like 260, were snow-packed, but the Nokian WRG2s handled things just
fine. On the way back yesterday, we took I-17 north out of Phoenix, had
lunch in Flagstaff, and drove I-40 east to Albuquerque. North on I-25 to
Santa Fe and 84/285 and NM 502 brought us back to Los Alamos last night
shortly after 2100.

The car performed just fine. 75 mph on the Interstates was enjoyable and,
except for all of the semis on I-40, stressless. Despite this car's
cruise control's setting idiosyncracies, having the cruise control was a
big help. I noticed in Phoenix that the upshift delay started working, but
didn't take time to try to clear the Check Engine Light.

The neurosurgeon there said I have severe compression of my spinal cord
and said he wanted me in a cervical collar immediately in case I fall or
am in an automobile accident before the surgery. His staff is arranging
the surgery, which will be in 3 - 6 weeks.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!

[G Mann]

Twice now, I've been stopped for speed with my GPS stuck to the winshield.
When the officer did his little "discussion" I just pointed to the GPS and
stated... According to my GPS here on the dash in clear view of me while
driving I was doing exactly XXX Mph. I'm sure I can call up that
information when I go to court on this, are you sure you have accurate
information? This GPS takes measurement accurate to 30 inches when
calculating speed..  It helps that I also have a dual dash camera to
point to, one shoots to the front one shoots to the rear and records to a
12V 40 gig hard drive.
So I can call up the exact location and the officer stop along with the GPS
data.

In both cases, we chatted a bit... officer ask why I had "all this
equipment" and I replied.. you have it in your car don't you? There are a
lot of unsafe drivers on the road and my insurance likes that I can replay
any accident I might have for them.

Seems to take a lot of the "sting" out of their "sting" no ticket in
either case.

Grant...
Total cost for camera setup was less than one ticket


On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

> On 15/02/2013 11:35 AM, ernest breakfield wrote:
>
>> the officers testimony of an "estimate" of your speed is enough in some
>> states; you'll need to check the laws where you're at.
>> the way the judge looks at it, the officer is a professional trained
>> in this sort of thing; you're not.
>>
>>
>> cheers!
>> e
>>
>>  How much over the limit were you?
>
>
> Randy
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Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!

[Andrew Strasfogel]

I will provide a character reference for Dimitri:  "Your honor,
Dimitri is quite a character":

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 3:55 PM, G Mann  wrote:
> Twice now, I've been stopped for speed with my GPS stuck to the winshield.
> When the officer did his little "discussion" I just pointed to the GPS and
> stated... According to my GPS here on the dash in clear view of me while
> driving I was doing exactly XXX Mph. I'm sure I can call up that
> information when I go to court on this, are you sure you have accurate
> information? This GPS takes measurement accurate to 30 inches when
> calculating speed..  It helps that I also have a dual dash camera to
> point to, one shoots to the front one shoots to the rear and records to a
> 12V 40 gig hard drive.
> So I can call up the exact location and the officer stop along with the GPS
> data.
>
> In both cases, we chatted a bit... officer ask why I had "all this
> equipment" and I replied.. you have it in your car don't you? There are a
> lot of unsafe drivers on the road and my insurance likes that I can replay
> any accident I might have for them.
>
> Seems to take a lot of the "sting" out of their "sting" no ticket in
> either case.
>
> Grant...
> Total cost for camera setup was less than one ticket
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
>
>> On 15/02/2013 11:35 AM, ernest breakfield wrote:
>>
>>> the officers testimony of an "estimate" of your speed is enough in some
>>> states; you'll need to check the laws where you're at.
>>> the way the judge looks at it, the officer is a professional trained
>>> in this sort of thing; you're not.
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers!
>>> e
>>>
>>>  How much over the limit were you?
>>
>>
>> Randy
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Re: [MBZ] MBUSA Roadside Assistance

[Andrew Strasfogel]

10 miles?

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:00 PM,   wrote:
> What's the towing range with Geico?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 14, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
>
>> GEICO towing surcharge is $15/6 mos. in the car insurance policy.
>> Can't beat it.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:51 PM, WILTON  wrote:
>>> I like AAA to tow it wherever I want it - the 91 SDL 20 miles to stealership
>>> 17 years ago when timing chain broke, the 81 300D 50 miles home when fan
>>> belt broke; the 87 124 coupla miles home when key (master switch) would not
>>> turn.
>>>
>>> Wilton
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon" 
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBUSA Roadside Assistance
>>>
>>>
>>>
 My beef with the subject is that they offer limited assistance (new
 battery, change tire, gallon of fuel) or a tow, but the tow is to the
 dealership.  Won't tow to your house, or shop of choice, only the
 dealership.

 My insurance company offers towing and the first ten or twenty miles are
 covered, tow to any location (my house, favorite shop, friends place,
 wherever).  I've used it several times, usually have the car towed home so 
 I
 can fix at my leisure.

 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

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[MBZ] Fw: 1983 Mercedes 380SL Parts Car - $700 (Kingston MA)

[Frederick Moir]

Not mine, etc.
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.

- Forwarded Message -
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>To: fredy4.s...@yahoo.com 
>Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 4:22 PM
>Subject: 1983 Mercedes 380SL Parts Car - $700 (Kingston MA)
> 
>
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>Please see below for more information. 
>Visit the posting at http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/cto/3614799767.html to 
>contact the person who posted this.
>
> 
>1983 Mercedes 380SL Parts Car
Date: 2013-02-13,  1:10PM
>
>This Diamond in the rough is being sold for Parts only NO TITLE but shes 
>worth her weight in gold. Theres plenty of good parts down to the center caps. 
>Its a V8 car of course. Will start up. NO REASONABLE OFFER REFUSED 
>Call/Text/Email Gary (339) 832 1328
>
>
>
>   * Location: Kingston MA
>
>   * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial 
> interests
>
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>
> 
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[MBZ] test

[Benz Hogs]

Email MX crashed, just checking that it's working again.

--
Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (159,xxx mi)

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Re: [MBZ] test

[Rich Thomas]

fail

--R

On 2/15/13 5:33 PM, Benz Hogs wrote:

Email MX crashed, just checking that it's working again.




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Re: [MBZ] test

[Benz Hogs]

Banned response for GoDaddy.

Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (161,xxx mi)

On 2/15/2013 4:45 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

fail

--R

On 2/15/13 5:33 PM, Benz Hogs wrote:

Email MX crashed, just checking that it's working again.






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Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!

[Jon Agne]

Details please!  Would love to know specifics about your setup.

Jon


On Feb 15, 2013, at 3:55 PM, G Mann wrote:

> Twice now, I've been stopped for speed with my GPS stuck to the winshield.
> When the officer did his little "discussion" I just pointed to the GPS and
> stated... According to my GPS here on the dash in clear view of me while
> driving I was doing exactly XXX Mph. I'm sure I can call up that
> information when I go to court on this, are you sure you have accurate
> information? This GPS takes measurement accurate to 30 inches when
> calculating speed..  It helps that I also have a dual dash camera to
> point to, one shoots to the front one shoots to the rear and records to a
> 12V 40 gig hard drive.
> So I can call up the exact location and the officer stop along with the GPS
> data.
> 
> In both cases, we chatted a bit... officer ask why I had "all this
> equipment" and I replied.. you have it in your car don't you? There are a
> lot of unsafe drivers on the road and my insurance likes that I can replay
> any accident I might have for them.
> 
> Seems to take a lot of the "sting" out of their "sting" no ticket in
> either case.
> 
> Grant...
> Total cost for camera setup was less than one ticket
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
> 
>> On 15/02/2013 11:35 AM, ernest breakfield wrote:
>> 
>>> the officers testimony of an "estimate" of your speed is enough in some
>>> states; you'll need to check the laws where you're at.
>>>the way the judge looks at it, the officer is a professional trained
>>> in this sort of thing; you're not.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> cheers!
>>> e
>>> 
>>> How much over the limit were you?
>> 
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Road Trip

[Dan Penoff]

Gotta have priorities.

Dan

On Feb 15, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

> Spoken like a true car guy, first an extensive report on the car, then OBTW 
> my neck is really messed up.
> 
> Good luck with it all!
> 
> --R


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Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

[Dan Penoff]

There were all sorts of anecdotal stories about synthetics and the havoc they 
wreaked on clutches in the Virago forum I belonged to.  Mobil1 also made a lot 
of statements and disclaimers regarding the reason for the different type of 
oil for air cooled engines/bikes, and how the additives they had in the V 
series oil were critical to proper clutch operation.

I used to buy it by the case (six bottles) from a place in Miami that sold all 
sorts of unusual lubricants.  They would have it on special twice a year for 
$50/case shipped.  Last time I looked at it here at a FLAPS it was over 
$10/quart.

Dan

 
On Feb 15, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

> Curt Raymond wrote:
> 
>> I used M1 5w40 in my motorcycles (both asian bikes) with excellent results. 
>> Loads of people told me I'd have troubles with clutch slippage but I haven't 
>> seen that. I guess if you use the "energy conserving" oil that can happen 
>> but that badge isn't on the 5w40.
> 
> Back in the 1980s I tried 15w50 in my CB200 when it became available. (M1 was 
> initially 5w30)
> 
> Couldn't break the clutch loose by rolling on the throttle, but if I launched 
> it hard or shifted fast, the clutch could not pull the engine (all 16hp of 
> it) down to match road speed. Dumping the clutch at a standing start would 
> just let the engine rev until the bike caught up to the engine's speed.
> 
> After my next oil change, it went back to normal behavior, in which dumping 
> the clutch from standstill would result in wheelspin and a little wheelie, 
> and shifting under power would result in the bike lunging forward instead of 
> clutch slipping.
> 
> I suppose it all depends on how strong the clutch is in relation to the 
> engine, but 1980s Mobil One definitely reduced the friction in a wet clutch 
> as compared to dino oils of the time.
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!

[dseretakis]

Yes please!

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:

> Details please!  Would love to know specifics about your setup.
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> On Feb 15, 2013, at 3:55 PM, G Mann wrote:
> 
>> Twice now, I've been stopped for speed with my GPS stuck to the winshield.
>> When the officer did his little "discussion" I just pointed to the GPS and
>> stated... According to my GPS here on the dash in clear view of me while
>> driving I was doing exactly XXX Mph. I'm sure I can call up that
>> information when I go to court on this, are you sure you have accurate
>> information? This GPS takes measurement accurate to 30 inches when
>> calculating speed..  It helps that I also have a dual dash camera to
>> point to, one shoots to the front one shoots to the rear and records to a
>> 12V 40 gig hard drive.
>> So I can call up the exact location and the officer stop along with the GPS
>> data.
>> 
>> In both cases, we chatted a bit... officer ask why I had "all this
>> equipment" and I replied.. you have it in your car don't you? There are a
>> lot of unsafe drivers on the road and my insurance likes that I can replay
>> any accident I might have for them.
>> 
>> Seems to take a lot of the "sting" out of their "sting" no ticket in
>> either case.
>> 
>> Grant...
>> Total cost for camera setup was less than one ticket
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 15/02/2013 11:35 AM, ernest breakfield wrote:
>>> 
 the officers testimony of an "estimate" of your speed is enough in some
 states; you'll need to check the laws where you're at.
   the way the judge looks at it, the officer is a professional trained
 in this sort of thing; you're not.
 
 
 cheers!
 e
 
 How much over the limit were you?
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Re: [MBZ] Road Trip

[WILTON]

'Hope it goes well.

BTW, I had an IVIG this morning; went out and shoveled and raked dirt for 
'bout the last 3 hours to fill in settled area around catch basin where city 
finally piped and backfilled a ditch across part of the back of my property. 
Hafta keep walker nearby.  Yeah, I know, somebody's gonna say, "Why didn't 
ya just let city do it?"  'Cause they'd just bring in more dirt and pile it 
up with machinery.  There's plenty of dirt there; just needs a bit of 
rearranging; the city crewmen don't seem to know that to be effective, a 
rake and a shovel must touch the ground occasionally - that they're not just 
a props to lean on or to swing around in mock battle, or calisthenics, etc., 
as observed many times while piping project was underway.


BTW, again, 'wish I could had city workmen's hours - show up on job site at 
8, lunch 12 to 1; leave at 2 for the day.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Craig" 

To: "mercedes" 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 3:13 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Road Trip



In preparing last weekend for our trip to the greater Phoenix area this
week, I noticed that I last changed oil on our '95 E320 7500 miles and
more than a year ago (a problem when you have extended oil changes and
don't drive too much). With some help from a neighbor and his son, we
used the Topsider and changed the oil (Mobil1 0W-40) and filter and
rotated the tires LF -> LR, LR -> RF, RF -> RR, RR -> LF.

So, 1224 miles, two doctor's appointments, and a couple of MRIs later, we
are back home. We left about 1030 on Monday morning, made it to Holbrook,
AZ, after the snowstorm had blown through and the roads to that point were
clear. We then abandoned I-40 and took side roads through Heber-Overgaard
and Payson into Chandler, AZ, arriving at 2100. Some of the side roads,
like 260, were snow-packed, but the Nokian WRG2s handled things just
fine. On the way back yesterday, we took I-17 north out of Phoenix, had
lunch in Flagstaff, and drove I-40 east to Albuquerque. North on I-25 to
Santa Fe and 84/285 and NM 502 brought us back to Los Alamos last night
shortly after 2100.

The car performed just fine. 75 mph on the Interstates was enjoyable and,
except for all of the semis on I-40, stressless. Despite this car's
cruise control's setting idiosyncracies, having the cruise control was a
big help. I noticed in Phoenix that the upshift delay started working, but
didn't take time to try to clear the Check Engine Light.

The neurosurgeon there said I have severe compression of my spinal cord
and said he wanted me in a cervical collar immediately in case I fall or
am in an automobile accident before the surgery. His staff is arranging
the surgery, which will be in 3 - 6 weeks.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Road Trip

[Craig]

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:48:47 -0500 Rich Thomas
 wrote:

> Spoken like a true car guy, first an extensive report on the car, then 
> OBTW my neck is really messed up.

Well, it is a car list, after all! :-)

BTW, we used 44.803 gallons of gasoline to cover the 1224 miles; that's
an overall fuel economy of 27.32 mpg. On the segment from Grants, NM, to
Los Alamos, we used 6.499 gallons to cover 183 miles for 28.16 mpg.


> Good luck with it all!

Thank you very much.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

[OK Don]

Regular Auto M1 (I forget which weight) worked just fine in the '84 R100
BMW I had years ago.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> There were all sorts of anecdotal stories about synthetics and the havoc
> they wreaked on clutches in the Virago forum I belonged to.  Mobil1 also
> made a lot of statements and disclaimers regarding the reason for the
> different type of oil for air cooled engines/bikes, and how the additives
> they had in the V series oil were critical to proper clutch operation.
>
> I used to buy it by the case (six bottles) from a place in Miami that sold
> all sorts of unusual lubricants.  They would have it on special twice a
> year for $50/case shipped.  Last time I looked at it here at a FLAPS it was
> over $10/quart.
>
> Dan
>



-- 
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2001 ML320
2012 Passat TDI DSG
1957 C182A
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Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

[Curt Raymond]

I started my experimenting with my wife's '89 Kawi LTD 454. Although the engine 
is small at 32hp its no slouch and will break the rear tire free pretty much 
anytime you want. I can detect no appreciable clutch slip.

With that success I tried it in my '82 Honda CB900F, thats a 90something HP 
bike IIRC and will gladly sit still and spin the rear tire to shreds all day 
long if you let it. Mobil 1 didn't change that.
It did change the cold start characteristics (which was mostly what I was 
after) in that the bike got slightly easier to start when cold. Its still a 
bastard if its been sitting any amount of time, just slightly less so.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:45:13 -0500
From: Mitch Haley 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
Message-ID: <511e9e59.5000...@voyager.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Curt Raymond wrote:

> I used M1 5w40 in my motorcycles (both asian bikes) with excellent results. 
> Loads of people told me I'd have troubles with clutch slippage but I haven't 
> seen that. I guess if you use the "energy conserving" oil that can happen but 
> that badge isn't on the 5w40.

Back in the 1980s I tried 15w50 in my CB200 when it became available. (M1 was 
initially 5w30)

Couldn't break the clutch loose by rolling on the throttle, but if I launched 
it 
hard or shifted fast, the clutch could not pull the engine (all 16hp of it) 
down 
to match road speed. Dumping the clutch at a standing start would just let the 
engine rev until the bike caught up to the engine's speed.

After my next oil change, it went back to normal behavior, in which dumping the 
clutch from standstill would result in wheelspin and a little wheelie, and 
shifting under power would result in the bike lunging forward instead of clutch 
slipping.

I suppose it all depends on how strong the clutch is in relation to the engine, 
but 1980s Mobil One definitely reduced the friction in a wet clutch as compared 
to dino oils of the time.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Jack - Good Deal?

[Scott Ritchey]

I bought a Craftsman quick-lift jack that died the first year.  My Harbor
Freight jack is still 100%.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jon Agne
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:10 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Jack - Good Deal?

Is this a good deal?

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-3-ton-floor-jack-stands-and/p-00950188000P?pr
dNo=6&blockNo=6&blockType=G6

Yes I know it's not Milwaukee, but I don't have the extra $$$ laying around.

Jon

(Looking for easier way to climb under the car)
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[MBZ] Sick Garmin Nüvi 750

[Craig]

During our trip, I had programmed our Garmin GPS receiver with the
location of my uncle's house. We were on the way there when the receiver
locked up. I found that if I restarted it, it would run for about 30
seconds and then lock up again. I was able to get it to tell me, "Go on
such-an-such to that street." I went to that street, restarted it, and it
told me, "Turn left and go X miles to such-and-such street." Doing that
over and over, I was able to get to my destination. Unfortunately, this
process is real pain, and 30 seconds is not enough time to program a new
destination.

When it's connected to the window mount and powered from the car, it
locks up with the screen lit up. When it's running on its own battery, it
shuts down.

Any hints on fixing this?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Sick Garmin Nüvi 750

[Jon Agne]

There is a way to reseti'll see if i can find the procedure...


On Feb 15, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Craig wrote:

> During our trip, I had programmed our Garmin GPS receiver with the
> location of my uncle's house. We were on the way there when the receiver
> locked up. I found that if I restarted it, it would run for about 30
> seconds and then lock up again. I was able to get it to tell me, "Go on
> such-an-such to that street." I went to that street, restarted it, and it
> told me, "Turn left and go X miles to such-and-such street." Doing that
> over and over, I was able to get to my destination. Unfortunately, this
> process is real pain, and 30 seconds is not enough time to program a new
> destination.
> 
> When it's connected to the window mount and powered from the car, it
> locks up with the screen lit up. When it's running on its own battery, it
> shuts down.
> 
> Any hints on fixing this?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT anyone need a camera or two?

[Benz Hogs]

My FiL has a large collection of cameras and still uses some film.  He 
probably develops 2-3 roles a month.


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (161,xxx mi)

On 2/15/2013 12:09 AM, Hendrik and fay wrote:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Huge-lot-of-old-cameras-collection-for-Sale-1-000-Pieces-of-SLR-RF-Medium-/190796013023?afsrc=1

Pile of old crap if you ask me, do they even still make film.

Hendrik
who has an old digital camera


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Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!

[G Mann]

You ask... so here it is. There are others with slightly different
features... Just search engine "dash camera with recording" and read their
blurbs.

http://www.zetronix.com/Car-Cameras/c59/Wide-Angle-Dual-Car-Camera-with-GPS-and-Night-Vision-Dash-Cam%28201%29/product_info.html?gclid=CIP-2KjEubUCFZCDQgodIB0A3w

Or what I have, which is an earlier version of this.

http://www.zetronix.com/720p-HD-Ultra-Wide-Angle-Nightvision-Car/Truck-DVR-Dash-Camera%28203%29/product_info.html

In both cases, you are less than $300 plus shipping. Auto key on feature is
great. You will never forget to record. It gives you about 18 hrs of record
time then re-records over the old stuff.. The new one above has GPS linked
directly into the data stream, If I replace what I have, it would be my
choice.

A word of caution. This device could also be used as information against
you so guard it carefully. Your 5th amendment right not to engage in self
incrimination could become "fragile" should you fail to protect and
preserve it. Just a word to the wise. As my law firm "Dewy, Cheatem, &
Howe" says... call us first and shut the hell up...

Grant...

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:03 PM,  wrote:

> Yes please!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 15, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
>
> > Details please!  Would love to know specifics about your setup.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> > On Feb 15, 2013, at 3:55 PM, G Mann wrote:
> >
> >> Twice now, I've been stopped for speed with my GPS stuck to the
> winshield.
> >> When the officer did his little "discussion" I just pointed to the GPS
> and
> >> stated... According to my GPS here on the dash in clear view of me while
> >> driving I was doing exactly XXX Mph. I'm sure I can call up that
> >> information when I go to court on this, are you sure you have accurate
> >> information? This GPS takes measurement accurate to 30 inches when
> >> calculating speed..  It helps that I also have a dual dash camera to
> >> point to, one shoots to the front one shoots to the rear and records to
> a
> >> 12V 40 gig hard drive.
> >> So I can call up the exact location and the officer stop along with the
> GPS
> >> data.
> >>
> >> In both cases, we chatted a bit... officer ask why I had "all this
> >> equipment" and I replied.. you have it in your car don't you? There are
> a
> >> lot of unsafe drivers on the road and my insurance likes that I can
> replay
> >> any accident I might have for them.
> >>
> >> Seems to take a lot of the "sting" out of their "sting" no ticket in
> >> either case.
> >>
> >> Grant...
> >> Total cost for camera setup was less than one ticket
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Randy Bennell 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 15/02/2013 11:35 AM, ernest breakfield wrote:
> >>>
>  the officers testimony of an "estimate" of your speed is enough in
> some
>  states; you'll need to check the laws where you're at.
>    the way the judge looks at it, the officer is a professional trained
>  in this sort of thing; you're not.
> 
> 
>  cheers!
>  e
> 
>  How much over the limit were you?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Randy
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!

[WILTON]

Maybe 20 years ago, my 80 240D speedo cable broke; no noise; no erratic 
speedo - just suddenly quit.   Coupla years before that, though, odometer 
quit, and I had removed the unit and sent it to "well-known and 
well-recommended repairer" (can't remember who/where), but, anyway, on that 
New Year's night (not eve but Jan 1), SWMBO and I drove the 240D to her 
brother's house for dinner, etc., near the small eastern NC town where she 
and I grew up.  At about 11 PM or so, we were headed home about an hour 
away.  'Cruised down main street and saw local gendarme sitting at usual 
spot.  (Remember, speedo was not installed, but I was familiar enough with 
sound of car in each gear to know that I was not speeding.)  'Cruised on up 
main street to red light just before right turn to head on out of town. 
While sitting at red light, gendarme eased up behind me; right turn signal 
ON, turned right and easing on out of town at about 32 to 34 mph in 35 zone, 
crossed railroad and eased into long, sweeping slight curve to left; very 
aware of double yellow center line and eased to left NEAR the line, but very 
aware that I never touched it.  Gendarme close behind me the whole time; 
just as I was about to accelerate to 45 mph as I passed 45 zone sign, blue 
lights flashed behind.  I said, "What the Hell is this?  I haven't done 
anything."  As gendarme approached car, I eased out of driver seat and stood 
facing him with very non-threatening air and stance and asked in pleasant 
voice, "Good evening, officer, what's the problem?"  He replied, "Well, I 
stopped you because you crossed the double yellow line back there in that 
curve?"  Surprised, I said in high voice with puzzled face and being careful 
not to appear angry, etc., "What?"  But I did not protest, and certainly was 
not going to argue - my attitude and response to gendarmes has always been 
to try to use only the following authorized statements:  "Yes, Sir; No, Sir 
and No excuse, Sir."  He went on to ask for driver's license, registration, 
etc.; while pulling out my wallet, I asked SWMBO to get registration out of 
glove box, etc.; as I pulled my license out of my pocket; I dropped it in 
the grass; made a swift movement straight down bending my knees and keeping 
back straight, retrieved the license with no hesitation, no wobbling, etc. - 
just a very stable, swift and fluid movement down and up.  As I handed him 
the license and reg., he asked, "Had anything to drink tonight?"  I replied 
firmly and confidently, "Yes, Sir, my sister-in-law's sweet ice tea, as 
usual."  He responded, "No alcoholic beverages?"  My reply, "Absolutely not! 
Never!"  He quickly realized that I knew what the Hell I was talking about, 
and handed my license and reg back saying, "Well, have a nice evening, Mr. 
Strickland."  As I was getting in car, I said, "I thank you for doing your 
duty, but you know, it is a bit annoying and is a pity to know that we can't 
drive anywhere late at night this time of year without being suspected of 
drinking."  He replied, "Yes, you're right.  Have a nice evening."  As I 
closed the door, my final comment, "Thank, you, Sir."


Frankly, It was a bit more than annoying.

Ya may wonder why I got out of the car - I was trying to keep 'im from 
seeing the blank space in the instrument cluster.  'Could've been a 
defective equipment ticket.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond" 

To: "Diesel List" 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!


Theres really only 3 or 4 things that could go wrong. The cable breaking 
seems like it should have made some noise first. I wonder if it just fell 
off the back of the speedo? That'd be a nice easy fix.


-Curt

Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 00:06:00 -0500
From: dsereta...@yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!
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Not sure what's wrong with it. I need to pull the cluster and 
troubleshoot. I suspect the cable is broken as both the odo and speedo 
stopped working suddenly. Thanks for the offer on the speedometer! I'll 
check to see if its not just a cable and let you know.

I'll be in Maine on Monday but the snowmobiling sounds like fun:)


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 14, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

Maybe one of us should ask whats wrong with the old speedo? I've got a 
working 1983 replacement.


Actually I've got another unknown (probably working) one too (which would 
keep me from having to break up a known good cluster) that Andrew sold me 
some years ago. Anyway either (or both) are yours for the asking if 
needed. We're supposed to have snow this weekend but you could come out 
Monday for snowmobiling (I'll actually be in Leominster but thats east of 
here) and pickup.


-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Sick Garmin Nüvi 750

[Craig]

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:53:18 -0500 Jon Agne  wrote:

> There is a way to reseti'll see if i can find the procedure...

Thanks, Jon, for the hint. I searched for reset Garmin Nuvi and got
several hits, some wrong, some right.

http://www.mydigitallife.info/how-to-reset-garmin-nuvi-gps-device-access-maintenance-mode/
says,

  Turn off Garmin device. Press down on bottom right corner of the
  touchscreen, and then power on the GPS unit. You should be prompted
  whether do you really want to erase all user data, or asked if do
  you really want to start up in maintenance mode. Press “Yes” to
  reset (warning: all data will be erased and lost, so backup before
  proceeding) or enter maintenance mode.

  Trick above works on Garmin nuvi 200, 250, 360 750, 760 series unit.
  In fact, there is a video demo by user of Garmin Nuvi 360 on how to
  perform the hidden reset function.

I did the erasing of user data (it did not ask about maintenance mode)
and it runs properly now.

Thanks!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Sick Garmin Nüvi 750

[Jon Agne]

Perfect.  Glad you were able to get it done.

Jon


On Feb 15, 2013, at 8:42 PM, Craig wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:53:18 -0500 Jon Agne  wrote:
> 
>> There is a way to reseti'll see if i can find the procedure...
> 
> Thanks, Jon, for the hint. I searched for reset Garmin Nuvi and got
> several hits, some wrong, some right.
> 
> http://www.mydigitallife.info/how-to-reset-garmin-nuvi-gps-device-access-maintenance-mode/
> says,
> 
>  Turn off Garmin device. Press down on bottom right corner of the
>  touchscreen, and then power on the GPS unit. You should be prompted
>  whether do you really want to erase all user data, or asked if do
>  you really want to start up in maintenance mode. Press “Yes” to
>  reset (warning: all data will be erased and lost, so backup before
>  proceeding) or enter maintenance mode.
> 
>  Trick above works on Garmin nuvi 200, 250, 360 750, 760 series unit.
>  In fact, there is a video demo by user of Garmin Nuvi 360 on how to
>  perform the hidden reset function.
> 
> I did the erasing of user data (it did not ask about maintenance mode)
> and it runs properly now.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Craig
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[MBZ] One Cheek Sneak from the Right Seat?

[Dan Penoff]

http://www.newser.com/story/162861/study-reveals-why-pilots-farts-can-be-dangerous.html



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Re: [MBZ] OT anyone need a camera or two?

[OK Don]

I have way too many cameras, can't decide whether to sell or keep the
Nikons, Leicas and the Linhof - they do have sentimental value (fed our
family for 20 years or so). I also have a stock of B&W 120 rolls, some 8x10
sheet film, and 100' rolls of 35mm in the freezer. The way-out-of-date 8x10
Polaroid works more like cyanotype now - the blue layer is about all that's
left.

Does he develop rolls of B&C or color neg/pos?

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Benz Hogs  wrote:

> My FiL has a large collection of cameras and still uses some film.  He
> probably develops 2-3 roles a month.
>
> Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
> '98 ML320 "Max" (161,xxx mi)
>
>
> On 2/15/2013 12:09 AM, Hendrik and fay wrote:
>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Huge-**lot-of-old-cameras-collection-**
>> for-Sale-1-000-Pieces-of-SLR-**RF-Medium-/190796013023?afsrc=**1
>>
>> Pile of old crap if you ask me, do they even still make film.
>>
>> Hendrik
>> who has an old digital camera
>>
>

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[MBZ] M1 20w50

[Tony Wirtel]

Right...thus the stmt abt M1 being "much cheaper and easier to consistently
find".  That said, I may have used 15w50 a time or two...it was 4-5 years
ago!

Tony Wirtel

>
> There is. I used to use it in my Virago.
>
> Dan
>
> On Feb 14, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Brian Toscano 
> wrote:
>
> > I think there is a V-Twin 20w-50.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Curt Raymond 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I hate to be "that guy" but I can't stop myself.
> >>
> >>
> >> Mobil 1 20w50 = doesn't exist.
> >> I think you mean 15w50. I've been getting it in 5 quart jugs at Wal-Mart
> >> pretty reliably. The ONLY reason I'll go to Wal-Mart.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!

[OK Don]

You also need that always on dash camera in case a meteorite flies in front
of you -
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nightly-news/50827929#50827929

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:25 PM, G Mann  wrote:

> You ask... so here it is. There are others with slightly different
> features... Just search engine "dash camera with recording" and read their
> blurbs.
>
>
> http://www.zetronix.com/Car-Cameras/c59/Wide-Angle-Dual-Car-Camera-with-GPS-and-Night-Vision-Dash-Cam%28201%29/product_info.html?gclid=CIP-2KjEubUCFZCDQgodIB0A3w
>
> Or what I have, which is an earlier version of this.
>
>
> http://www.zetronix.com/720p-HD-Ultra-Wide-Angle-Nightvision-Car/Truck-DVR-Dash-Camera%28203%29/product_info.html
>
> In both cases, you are less than $300 plus shipping. Auto key on feature is
> great. You will never forget to record. It gives you about 18 hrs of record
> time then re-records over the old stuff.. The new one above has GPS linked
> directly into the data stream, If I replace what I have, it would be my
> choice.
>
> A word of caution. This device could also be used as information against
> you so guard it carefully. Your 5th amendment right not to engage in self
> incrimination could become "fragile" should you fail to protect and
> preserve it. Just a word to the wise. As my law firm "Dewy, Cheatem, &
> Howe" says... call us first and shut the hell up...
>
> Grant...
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:03 PM,  wrote:
>
> > Yes please!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Feb 15, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
> >
> > > Details please!  Would love to know specifics about your setup.
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 15, 2013, at 3:55 PM, G Mann wrote:
> > >
> > >> Twice now, I've been stopped for speed with my GPS stuck to the
> > winshield.
> > >> When the officer did his little "discussion" I just pointed to the GPS
> > and
> > >> stated... According to my GPS here on the dash in clear view of me
> while
> > >> driving I was doing exactly XXX Mph. I'm sure I can call up that
> > >> information when I go to court on this, are you sure you have accurate
> > >> information? This GPS takes measurement accurate to 30 inches when
> > >> calculating speed..  It helps that I also have a dual dash camera
> to
> > >> point to, one shoots to the front one shoots to the rear and records
> to
> > a
> > >> 12V 40 gig hard drive.
> > >> So I can call up the exact location and the officer stop along with
> the
> > GPS
> > >> data.
> > >>
> > >> In both cases, we chatted a bit... officer ask why I had "all this
> > >> equipment" and I replied.. you have it in your car don't you? There
> are
> > a
> > >> lot of unsafe drivers on the road and my insurance likes that I can
> > replay
> > >> any accident I might have for them.
> > >>
> > >> Seems to take a lot of the "sting" out of their "sting" no ticket
> in
> > >> either case.
> > >>
> > >> Grant...
> > >> Total cost for camera setup was less than one ticket
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Randy Bennell 
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On 15/02/2013 11:35 AM, ernest breakfield wrote:
> > >>>
> >  the officers testimony of an "estimate" of your speed is enough in
> > some
> >  states; you'll need to check the laws where you're at.
> >    the way the judge looks at it, the officer is a professional
> trained
> >  in this sort of thing; you're not.
> > 
> > 
> >  cheers!
> >  e
> > 
> >  How much over the limit were you?
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Re: [MBZ] Road Trip

[Rich Thomas]

Hey, have you ever been to Las Vegas, NM?  We got sorta stuck there one 
night when big snow was forecast, we were driving from Houston to CO, 
along about 10PM and the radio was forecasting doom and dire conditions 
so we figured it was time to find a refugio, wifey got on the wireless 
and rang up a hotel.  2 kids, 2 dogs in the old hotel there, which is 
very cool.  Turned out the storm was a bust so next morning on we went.  
My cousin told me he had stayed there too, was doing some sort of 
architectural project in LV.


Was watching the movie No Country for Old Men a year or two later and 
damn that hotel lobby looked familiar...


--R


On 2/15/13 6:12 PM, Craig wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:48:47 -0500 Rich Thomas
 wrote:


Spoken like a true car guy, first an extensive report on the car, then
OBTW my neck is really messed up.

Well, it is a car list, after all! :-)

BTW, we used 44.803 gallons of gasoline to cover the 1224 miles; that's
an overall fuel economy of 27.32 mpg. On the segment from Grants, NM, to
Los Alamos, we used 6.499 gallons to cover 183 miles for 28.16 mpg.



Good luck with it all!

Thank you very much.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!

[Rich Thomas]

Dealextreme had a front/rear cam for really cheap a coupla weeks back, 
seemed like it had some decent specs.


--R

On 2/15/13 7:25 PM, G Mann wrote:

You ask... so here it is. There are others with slightly different
features... Just search engine "dash camera with recording" and read their
blurbs.

http://www.zetronix.com/Car-Cameras/c59/Wide-Angle-Dual-Car-Camera-with-GPS-and-Night-Vision-Dash-Cam%28201%29/product_info.html?gclid=CIP-2KjEubUCFZCDQgodIB0A3w

Or what I have, which is an earlier version of this.

http://www.zetronix.com/720p-HD-Ultra-Wide-Angle-Nightvision-Car/Truck-DVR-Dash-Camera%28203%29/product_info.html

In both cases, you are less than $300 plus shipping. Auto key on feature is
great. You will never forget to record. It gives you about 18 hrs of record
time then re-records over the old stuff.. The new one above has GPS linked
directly into the data stream, If I replace what I have, it would be my
choice.

A word of caution. This device could also be used as information against
you so guard it carefully. Your 5th amendment right not to engage in self
incrimination could become "fragile" should you fail to protect and
preserve it. Just a word to the wise. As my law firm "Dewy, Cheatem, &
Howe" says... call us first and shut the hell up...

Grant...

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:03 PM,  wrote:


Yes please!

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 15, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:


Details please!  Would love to know specifics about your setup.

Jon


On Feb 15, 2013, at 3:55 PM, G Mann wrote:


Twice now, I've been stopped for speed with my GPS stuck to the

winshield.

When the officer did his little "discussion" I just pointed to the GPS

and

stated... According to my GPS here on the dash in clear view of me while
driving I was doing exactly XXX Mph. I'm sure I can call up that
information when I go to court on this, are you sure you have accurate
information? This GPS takes measurement accurate to 30 inches when
calculating speed..  It helps that I also have a dual dash camera to
point to, one shoots to the front one shoots to the rear and records to

a

12V 40 gig hard drive.
So I can call up the exact location and the officer stop along with the

GPS

data.

In both cases, we chatted a bit... officer ask why I had "all this
equipment" and I replied.. you have it in your car don't you? There are

a

lot of unsafe drivers on the road and my insurance likes that I can

replay

any accident I might have for them.

Seems to take a lot of the "sting" out of their "sting" no ticket in
either case.

Grant...
Total cost for camera setup was less than one ticket


On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Randy Bennell 

wrote:

On 15/02/2013 11:35 AM, ernest breakfield wrote:


the officers testimony of an "estimate" of your speed is enough in

some

states; you'll need to check the laws where you're at.
   the way the judge looks at it, the officer is a professional trained
in this sort of thing; you're not.


cheers!
e

How much over the limit were you?


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT anyone need a camera or two?

[Benz Hogs]

That's a good question. I'd have to ask if he shoots any B&W.  I 
think he mostly does color.


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (161,xxx mi)

On 2/15/2013 8:05 PM, OK Don wrote:

I have way too many cameras, can't decide whether to sell or keep the
Nikons, Leicas and the Linhof - they do have sentimental value (fed our
family for 20 years or so). I also have a stock of B&W 120 rolls, some 8x10
sheet film, and 100' rolls of 35mm in the freezer. The way-out-of-date 8x10
Polaroid works more like cyanotype now - the blue layer is about all that's
left.

Does he develop rolls of B&C or color neg/pos?

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Benz Hogs  wrote:


My FiL has a large collection of cameras and still uses some film.  He
probably develops 2-3 roles a month.

Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (161,xxx mi)


On 2/15/2013 12:09 AM, Hendrik and fay wrote:


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Huge-**lot-of-old-cameras-collection-**
for-Sale-1-000-Pieces-of-SLR-**RF-Medium-/190796013023?afsrc=**1

Pile of old crap if you ask me, do they even still make film.

Hendrik
who has an old digital camera







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Re: [MBZ] OT anyone need a camera or two?

[Benz Hogs]

You mean an auction winner?

Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (161,xxx mi)

On 2/15/2013 12:13 PM, OK Don wrote:

You can still get film - might have to process it yourself though. Looks
like he has one bid - more than I expected.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Hendrik and fay  wrote:


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Huge-**lot-of-old-cameras-collection-**
for-Sale-1-000-Pieces-of-SLR-**RF-Medium-/190796013023?afsrc=**1
Pile of old crap if you ask me, do they even still make film.

Hendrik
who has an old digital camera


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Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)

[clay monroe]

Sadly, the bottles of 20-50 M1 sitting on the shelf in my garage beg to differ

clay

On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

> I hate to be "that guy" but I can't stop myself.
> 
> 
> Mobil 1 20w50 = doesn't exist.
> I think you mean 15w50. I've been getting it in 5 quart jugs at Wal-Mart 
> pretty reliably. The ONLY reason I'll go to Wal-Mart.
> 
> My local Autozone and CarQuest will order in whatever I want, just have to 
> ask. CarQuest even carries some RoyalPurple. Not all the weights but they'd 
> order different weights if I wanted them.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:07:27 -0500
> From: Tony Wirtel 
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil (Dino)
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
>> 
>> Curious as to the list's opinions on regular Dino oil for use in the 1992
>> 300E. I have run two changes of Mobil1 to quiet the lifters, which it has
>> done. I want to go back to a conventional oil for cost reasons. Not a lot
>> of miles being put on it and a starving college student driving it.
>> 
>> I am pretty sure that Tony was running conventional oil in it prior to my
>> purchase as well (Tony?)
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> 
> Hi Dan-
> 
> I ran M1 20w50 for a time but still had occasional tapping on startup after
> the car sat for 3-5 days so switched over to Movil Delvac 15w-40 (1300
> maybe?) which was much cheaper and easier to consistently find.  Prior to
> M1 I used to use Chevron Delo 400 but after one change the hot (summer
> stop-and-go hot) oil pressure at idle dropped to .5 bar right after the
> change I switched to 20w50 M1.  I hated throwing away oil with less than
> 200 miles on it- but w/the M1 saw pretty consistent lowest readings of
> 1.1-1.2 bar (hot weather/ full AC/stop and go).  But M1 supply was spotty
> at best so switched over to Delvac, with no change in lowest/worst case oil
> pressure.  Now, the car used about 1 quart between changes so for that I'd
> use any 20w50 or 15w40- I think I gave you whatever I had when you got the
> car.
> 
> Glad to hear she's still going- I had an "uh oh" moment when you sent the
> email saying one of the cars got totaled out.  Did you ever get the AC back
> up?
> 
> Tony Wirtel
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Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!

[clay monroe]

Maybe the 616 has more goodness than the 615 in Gump.  84.5mph in Gump was 
invigorating, but not to be done for more than a short bit.  Maybe a mile, then 
drop down to reasonable speeds.

clay

On Feb 14, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Allan Streib wrote:

> On the other hand do it with an old VW diesel and you will kill it
> quick.  The severely underpowered diesel Vanagons are well known for
> blowing engines due to foot-to-the-floor operation.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Curt Raymond  writes:
> 
>> Phooey!
>> 
>> My 240D regularly sits right at 80mph for 10-15 minutes at a time. There is 
>> no reason it shouldn't. If your car can't its because you aren't maintaining 
>> it properly. High speed runs are the ultimate Italian tune up, high revs and 
>> high load. In this case the wind resistance is the high load.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:12:08 -0800
>> From: clay monroe 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!
>> Message-ID: <0edf596c-aba8-4b31-99a4-f94d954db...@comcast.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> 
>> IT will max out at 85, but you better not try to keep it there for longer 
>> than a minute.  Being able to get it there would be hard for a 30 year old 
>> car.
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 14, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:
>> 
>>> Probably it's your word against his, but yes, they have to have proof of a 
>>> speed reading in order to write a ticket.
>>> 
>>> The judge may get a kick out of this case -- however, a 240D will do about 
>>> 85 max, don't lie to him.
>>> 
>>> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] fleece

[RELNGSON]

> ..The fleece filter is not an issue for an M103 engine that I am aware 
> of. I use Mann or Hengst, whatever the Q supplies...
> 
As I said, use of the fleece filter is part of the long interval change. I 
also don't like 10K changes.

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Re: [MBZ] Speeding ticket in a 240D??!!

[Jim Cathey]

I'd always thought there had to be a limiter because you can feel it 
just sort of stop accelerating.


That's where the rising wind-resistance HP curve meets the falling
RPM-dropoff HP curve of the diesel.

-- Jim



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