Re: [MBZ] 116 300SD
Mitch, I'm not totally familiar with all the CA, National differences. It's not real easy to put an 81-85 engine in a 78-80 300SD. The 78-80 had different glow plug relays (even within those years, but definitely different than the 81-85). There is also a difference in the transmission vacuum structure so you'd probably have to use the 81-85 tranny also. Battery is located differently so different cables, and on and on. I'm not sure the effort would be worth it. But then after reading a lot of emails on multiple Benz lists, I've come to believe that some people will attempt anything just for the macho buzz of having accomplished it. But to Kaleb, this car is still probably worth more than $1800 in parts. I just had to replace the tranny in my 1980 300SD (around 425,000 miles and just finally quit) and I had a time finding one. I lucked into a low mileage (I hope, not that recyclers would bend the truth) used one at Catalina Recycle in AZ. So far, it's good. And don't think about finding the rebuilt rear half axles, etc. etc. About 3yrs ago the number of parts for the 116 started dwindling on eBay and elsewhere, so if you want to buy it for maybe $1200 and part it out, you would probably make a profit. Best Wishes, Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Apfels WAS: Who change the Vegemite?
Grimes Golden is the perfect apple here -- a friend of mine in grade school had one in their yard that was more or less completely unpruned and produced huge amounts of very large, wonderful apples every year with no user intervention other than picking them. Pretty much gone now, they bloom and ripen over an extended period and hence the orchards don't grow them. Too expensive. Grimes is my favorite, or one of my favorites. It was also the favorite of both of my grandmothers. My mom told of drying slices of Grimes on a tin roof for preservation. You are right, they ripen over a long period and need to be picked multiple times. They also drop easily. However it is the best tasting apple, along with a really ripe original Stark's Golden Delicious, the original Jonagold (not sure who owns the patent on that) and Macintosh. I have even grown to like Jonathan. Grimes makes great cider, provided the apples are not too soft or too green. Too soft, and they mush and the juice won't come out. Too green and the juice tastes and smells skunky. Jonagold is often called a cross between golden delicious and Jonathan, but it is not. The original Jonagold is a cross between Jonathan and Grimes Golden, and it is evident by comparing the blossom end of a Grimes and a Jonagold. Newer cultivars may well be crosses of the parents or Jonagold and Golden Del, because I see some stuff sold as Jonagold that is long and pointy, nothing like the original Jonagold. The original Jonagold loses some of the negatives of the parents and retains the good qualities. It is better in my opinion, than either parent. Stark's Nursury (Stark Brothers at the time) owns/owned the original Hawkeye and renamed it Delicious. Later (in the 1920s) they acquired the original Golden Delicious (they named it too) and marketed it. By the 1930s, starks had a bud sport that was more colorful than the original, and they named it Starking Double Red Delicious. Other bud sports from there were selected because they were more elongated and more red. The Starking still had good flavor. The cultivars grown in WA are mostly from Hilltop, who have no rights to the genetics of the originals AFIK. What happens is the competing nursery grows the patent tree until they find a bud sport that has properties they desire. Then they propagate that and market it under their patent. It is genetically different. But the competing nurseries like to use the name of the original. Thus by now there are hundreds (maybe thousands if you count the unmarketed ones developed by nurseries) of cultivars of Red Delicious, but none of them are Delicious by name or taste. In general varieties you will see in the store are flavorless. The exceptions are Macintosh and some Jonagold. There may be other varieties available in the East that are good too, but I am talking nationwide distribution. Another exception is NZ apples, but I bought some NZ braeburn and they were dry and flavorless, so I believe the WA cultivars have hit NZ too. I know they dropped the Hawkeye Delicious long ago. They were only shipped a few years in the 80s. The original NZ braburn was a great apple too. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apfels WAS: Who change the Vegemite?
The only decent apples for pies are Macintosh. Can only get them for part of the year down here, unfortunately. I grew up with the Guinness world record apple picker, George Adrian. Their orchard was just a short distance from my childhood home on the south side of Indianapolis, right next to our school, Lincoln Elementary. The Adrians were immigrants who followed many of their fellow German immigrants to the south side of Indianapolis, where many of them started small truck farms as we called them. My house was surrounded with them, along with many greenhouse growers as well. One of my best friends' families were the largest producer of turnips in the Midwest, Peaper Brothers. I worked summers and after school in the six acres of greenhouses they had, raising tomatoes year round. My older brother worked for a guy who raised snapdragons, working before AND after school cutting flowers. Dan On Aug 8, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Grimes Golden is the perfect apple here -- a friend of mine in grade school had one in their yard that was more or less completely unpruned and produced huge amounts of very large, wonderful apples every year with no user intervention other than picking them. Pretty much gone now, they bloom and ripen over an extended period and hence the orchards don't grow them. Too expensive. Grimes is my favorite, or one of my favorites. It was also the favorite of both of my grandmothers. My mom told of drying slices of Grimes on a tin roof for preservation. You are right, they ripen over a long period and need to be picked multiple times. They also drop easily. However it is the best tasting apple, along with a really ripe original Stark's Golden Delicious, the original Jonagold (not sure who owns the patent on that) and Macintosh. I have even grown to like Jonathan. Grimes makes great cider, provided the apples are not too soft or too green. Too soft, and they mush and the juice won't come out. Too green and the juice tastes and smells skunky. Jonagold is often called a cross between golden delicious and Jonathan, but it is not. The original Jonagold is a cross between Jonathan and Grimes Golden, and it is evident by comparing the blossom end of a Grimes and a Jonagold. Newer cultivars may well be crosses of the parents or Jonagold and Golden Del, beca use I see some stuff sold as Jonagold that is long and pointy, nothing like the original Jonagold. The original Jonagold loses some of the negatives of the parents and retains the good qualities. It is better in my opinion, than either parent. Stark's Nursury (Stark Brothers at the time) owns/owned the original Hawkeye and renamed it Delicious. Later (in the 1920s) they acquired the original Golden Delicious (they named it too) and marketed it. By the 1930s, starks had a bud sport that was more colorful than the original, and they named it Starking Double Red Delicious. Other bud sports from there were selected because they were more elongated and more red. The Starking still had good flavor. The cultivars grown in WA are mostly from Hilltop, who have no rights to the genetics of the originals AFIK. What happens is the competing nursery grows the patent tree until they find a bud sport that has properties they desire. Then they propagate that and market it under their patent. It is genetically different. But the competing nurseries like to use the name of the original. Thus by now there are hundreds (maybe thousands if you count the unmarketed ones developed by nurseries) of cultivars of Red Delicious, but none of them are Delicious by name or taste. In general varieties you will see in the store are flavorless. The exceptions are Macintosh and some Jonagold. There may be other varieties available in the East that are good too, but I am talking nationwide distribution. Another exception is NZ apples, but I bought some NZ braeburn and they were dry and flavorless, so I believe the WA cultivars have hit NZ too. I know they dropped the Hawkeye Delicious long ago. They were only shipped a few years in the 80s. The original NZ braburn was a great apple too. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apfels WAS: Who change the Vegemite?
Did you fall off a turnip truck? --R On 8/8/13 10:55 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: My house was surrounded with them, along with many greenhouse growers as well. One of my best friends' families were the largest producer of turnips in the Midwest, Peaper Brothers. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won
On 07/08/2013 5:48 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Or take a dremel tool with a thin blade on it and cut a slot in the end of the adjuster and use a regular screw driver. Works just fine on my Poulan. Manfred Mitch Haley wrote: Wow, all the eBay sources seem to have dried up. Found a Zama double D for $24, which is about $19 more than I paid for my Homelite double D. Can't find the Husqvarna/Poulan splined ones anywhere. Sometimes you can jam a piece of tubing over the screw tight enough to turn it, especially with the splined ones. Mitch. Hey Randy! you'se guys have the same problem in the PR of Canada? I'd think up there if the gummit tried to gum up the chainsaws, the lumberjacks would take to sawin up the pols/regulators. (figuratively) I have to admit I had no idea that the carb adjustment on a chainsaw required some special tool. The last one I bought came from the USA via Lowes so I probably need to have a look. It is Husquvarna so no problem so far. Cuts like a banshee. I bought a set of the chaps in the hopes that I won't remove a leg if I slip! Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
On 07/08/2013 6:14 PM, Craig wrote: On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:12:22 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: oh? Back to IH again? Or is someone else building v-8s? Sorry, I cannot answer that question. Craig I think the new diesel engine is Ford designed and produced. Did they not have some dispute with IH and that resulted in departure from use of the IH engines? My mechanic son has done a fair amount of work on diesel pickups in the last year or two. Ford head gaskets etc. GM injectors etc. Expensive and difficult to work on. Either the Dodge with the Cummins is better or his shop does not attract them as I don't think he has done any work on motors in those trucks. The last one I recall him commenting on was suspension work. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won
On 07/08/2013 6:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So back to the say, it is a POS. I went out to start it, have not ran it in a couple days. Wore myself pulling on the damn thing, it never started. I am going to take it to their nearest service provider I guess and tell them either to fix it or shove it up their ass. Try pulling off the filter cover and squirting a little gas into the carb intake. That should at least tell you if it is starving for fuel. I am guessing that is the most likely cause of hard starting. Did you check to see if it has spark? Maybe a new spark plug? Small engines like this are pretty basic. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL
I have photos if anybody cares to see 'em. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 8:22 PM Subject: [MBZ] 91 350SDL $1800 - bring a trailer Wilton Goldsboro, NC - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 1:13 PM Subject: [MBZ] Fw: 91 350SDL This can make a mighty fine vehicle for somebody. 'Best driving/riding car I've seen during my 64 years of driving. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 10:08 PM Subject: 91 350SDL Oil analysis via LarryT confirms coolant in oil Oil does not have cafe au lait, etc., look, though. Like I said: PLACE YOUR BIDS; BRING A TRAILER. '91 350SDL, Purchased in 1995 @ 79 kmi; now 204.5 kmi., 040 Black, no rust that I know of, several cracks in paint on hood, several small bird-doo etchings on roof, aluminum replacement trunk lid installed Jun '12 because of vandalism, should be stripped to aluminum and repainted appropriately for alum; palomino leather int., worn spot at lower left corner of driver backrest, torn seam on top of rear seat backrest. Usually starts with just a touch of the starter Cruise and climate control work nicely. Following is a list of several repairs, etc., in addition to the usual Mobil 1 oil, filters, glow plugs, alignments, balancing, and lots of other stuff during 18 years that I don't remember: Broken timing chain in Apr '96; new timing chain, several valves, lifters, shaved head, gasket, etc., -- bunch of stuff I don't remember -- May '96, 89 kmi Hit deer in Jun '96; R R left headlight assembly, LF door and fender; repairs to LF corner of hood; repainted hood, LF door and fender. Windshield replaced w/PPG unit Jun '99 Mobil 1 since '01 Shutdown actuator May '01 Inj. Pump seal rings Jun '01 Ign. tumbler Aug '01, 148 kmi New radiator and hoses Dec '02 New blower fan and controller/porcupine in '03, 162 kmi Bilstein shocks, sway bar links, shift link bushings in '04 Michelin tires; lower ball joints tie rod ends Oct '04, 175 kmi Tranny rebuilt Jun '07, 186 kmi Precautionary timing chain R R Mar '09, 191 kmi Power steering pump ~ '10 Glow plugs, thermostat, rad hose, belt Sep '10 AC exp valve, dryer, switches Sep '10 Brake pads ~'11, 197 kmi Rear windshield Apr '12 Lower rad hose Jun '13 Radio inop - disconnected because of trickle draw on bat - sending retraction signal to fully retracted antenna. Clock inop Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won
Try pulling off the filter cover and squirting a little gas into the carb intake. That should at least tell you if it is starving for fuel. I am guessing that is the most likely cause of hard starting. Did you check to see if it has spark? Maybe a new spark plug? Small engines like this are pretty basic. Randy air, fuel and spark, assuming it has compression. of course the air/fuel ratio and spark timing are crucial. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
I think the new diesel engine is Ford designed and produced. Did they not have some dispute with IH and that resulted in departure from use of the IH engines? My mechanic son has done a fair amount of work on diesel pickups in the last year or two. Ford head gaskets etc. GM injectors etc. Expensive and difficult to work on. Either the Dodge with the Cummins is better or his shop does not attract them as I don't think he has done any work on motors in those trucks. The last one I recall him commenting on was suspension work. Randy Cummins has been building Diesel engines for 100 years and know how to do it. (read My Days with the Diesel by Clessie Cummins) The problem with the cummins/dogde is weight. That is a heavy sucker. IH v8 engines are good, but the inline 6 (DT466 etc.) is great. same as the 1066 through 1486 tractors. Frod did their best fro screw up the IH engine from what I've heard. I think that contributed heavily to the divorce. The frod IH was not as good as the International IH v8 Diesel engine. Frod's ol tractor division could build a Diesel, and they had automotive versions for the RTW. That was sold off and is now a part of CNH, along with Case, what is left of IH farm, and a few others. It seems like they have dropped the frod name, as the new blue tractor are New Holland I head the frod 240 and 300 gas engines were the same block as the tractor engines. I'm not sure about that, but I know the 240 block was heavy. Right now, I don't think frod or gummit motors could build a good Diesel. The isuzu in the GM stuff seems to be ok, but I'm not sure the jury is on on that yet. Isuzu pretty much ripped off the Mercedes OM engines for some models, like the thermoking. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won
On my 2-cycle things I squirt in a bunch of carb cleaner to loosen up the dried gunk (which appears very rapidly) that clogs the jets. The carb cleaner will usually fire it off but you might need a couple shots. Sometimes ether but that is probably not good as there is no oil in there, but it will get it started after 2-3 times. --R On 8/8/13 11:51 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 07/08/2013 6:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So back to the say, it is a POS. I went out to start it, have not ran it in a couple days. Wore myself pulling on the damn thing, it never started. I am going to take it to their nearest service provider I guess and tell them either to fix it or shove it up their ass. Try pulling off the filter cover and squirting a little gas into the carb intake. That should at least tell you if it is starving for fuel. I am guessing that is the most likely cause of hard starting. Did you check to see if it has spark? Maybe a new spark plug? Small engines like this are pretty basic. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
It's my information. based on Ford diesel truck discussion board at the time, the issue with IH / Ford was actually with EPA. Story I've repeatedly heard is that Ford was found to have fudged the EPA emission numbers in order to make the ever tighter EPA restrictions, without incurring the extreme costs to pay IH to make the engines more EPA Compliant EPA slapped Ford with HUGE fines and an order that they could not use the engines without compliance. Ford rushed [really rushed, way beyond development plans] their own 6.0 diesel engine, with all the EPA junk jammed on it, but not nicely... That engine almost lost Ford the diesel truck market. It certainly lost Ford millions in warranty work and customer goodwill. As quickly as possible, Ford has developed a new, better, diesel engine.. but it will not have the long legs of history the IH 7.3 diesel has with billions of miles of use and decades of success. I personally own 5, all have over 200,000 miles, all are healthy and expected to be for many miles to come. The 'new diesels although EPA compliant, already have developed issues... time will tell.. with enough customers money... and miles.. just how those all get sorted. Worthy of note. International Harvester continued to use and produce the 7.3 engine after their major client [Ford] canceled the nearly 20 yr contract. The engines they use/used were EPA compliant, so... it seems more like it was an executive spitting contest than a hard mechanical issue. Bottom line... Ford remains at the top of the heap still in truck sales and profit, even in these depression era times.. Grant... On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 07/08/2013 6:14 PM, Craig wrote: On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:12:22 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: oh? Back to IH again? Or is someone else building v-8s? Sorry, I cannot answer that question. Craig I think the new diesel engine is Ford designed and produced. Did they not have some dispute with IH and that resulted in departure from use of the IH engines? My mechanic son has done a fair amount of work on diesel pickups in the last year or two. Ford head gaskets etc. GM injectors etc. Expensive and difficult to work on. Either the Dodge with the Cummins is better or his shop does not attract them as I don't think he has done any work on motors in those trucks. The last one I recall him commenting on was suspension work. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
The Ford 6.0 is an IH engine. It is a good, solid design that Ford screwed up by not listening to IH. The 6.0 should not have been released in the US market before clean enough fuel was available here. IIRC the original design is German and works just fine with European fuel. Ford was stupid. They introduced that engine in E350 van cab and chassis setups...ambulances. The 6.0 does not like to sit and idle. It will clog itself up and be a total nightmare. A life saving application MAY not be the best platform to learn that on. Americans still think a diesel should sit and idle, no. They think they can run offroad diesel in a 6.0 with no trouble, wrong. If Ford had listened to IH and not rushed an altered version of a successful engine to market there would not be such trouble. Mike On Aug 8, 2013 12:25 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: It's my information. based on Ford diesel truck discussion board at the time, the issue with IH / Ford was actually with EPA. Story I've repeatedly heard is that Ford was found to have fudged the EPA emission numbers in order to make the ever tighter EPA restrictions, without incurring the extreme costs to pay IH to make the engines more EPA Compliant EPA slapped Ford with HUGE fines and an order that they could not use the engines without compliance. Ford rushed [really rushed, way beyond development plans] their own 6.0 diesel engine, with all the EPA junk jammed on it, but not nicely... That engine almost lost Ford the diesel truck market. It certainly lost Ford millions in warranty work and customer goodwill. As quickly as possible, Ford has developed a new, better, diesel engine.. but it will not have the long legs of history the IH 7.3 diesel has with billions of miles of use and decades of success. I personally own 5, all have over 200,000 miles, all are healthy and expected to be for many miles to come. The 'new diesels although EPA compliant, already have developed issues... time will tell.. with enough customers money... and miles.. just how those all get sorted. Worthy of note. International Harvester continued to use and produce the 7.3 engine after their major client [Ford] canceled the nearly 20 yr contract. The engines they use/used were EPA compliant, so... it seems more like it was an executive spitting contest than a hard mechanical issue. Bottom line... Ford remains at the top of the heap still in truck sales and profit, even in these depression era times.. Grant... On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 07/08/2013 6:14 PM, Craig wrote: On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:12:22 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: oh? Back to IH again? Or is someone else building v-8s? Sorry, I cannot answer that question. Craig I think the new diesel engine is Ford designed and produced. Did they not have some dispute with IH and that resulted in departure from use of the IH engines? My mechanic son has done a fair amount of work on diesel pickups in the last year or two. Ford head gaskets etc. GM injectors etc. Expensive and difficult to work on. Either the Dodge with the Cummins is better or his shop does not attract them as I don't think he has done any work on motors in those trucks. The last one I recall him commenting on was suspension work. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
On 08/08/2013 11:08 AM, Dieselhead wrote: I think the new diesel engine is Ford designed and produced. Did they not have some dispute with IH and that resulted in departure from use of the IH engines? My mechanic son has done a fair amount of work on diesel pickups in the last year or two. Ford head gaskets etc. GM injectors etc. Expensive and difficult to work on. Either the Dodge with the Cummins is better or his shop does not attract them as I don't think he has done any work on motors in those trucks. The last one I recall him commenting on was suspension work. Randy Cummins has been building Diesel engines for 100 years and know how to do it. (read My Days with the Diesel by Clessie Cummins) The problem with the cummins/dogde is weight. That is a heavy sucker. IH v8 engines are good, but the inline 6 (DT466 etc.) is great. same as the 1066 through 1486 tractors. Frod did their best fro screw up the IH engine from what I've heard. I think that contributed heavily to the divorce. The frod IH was not as good as the International IH v8 Diesel engine. Frod's ol tractor division could build a Diesel, and they had automotive versions for the RTW. That was sold off and is now a part of CNH, along with Case, what is left of IH farm, and a few others. It seems like they have dropped the frod name, as the new blue tractor are New Holland I head the frod 240 and 300 gas engines were the same block as the tractor engines. I'm not sure about that, but I know the 240 block was heavy. Right now, I don't think frod or gummit motors could build a good Diesel. The isuzu in the GM stuff seems to be ok, but I'm not sure the jury is on on that yet. Isuzu pretty much ripped off the Mercedes OM engines for some models, like the thermoking. ___ If I had really deep pockets, I would consider a brand new Dodge with the Cummins. I am not sure I want to buy an older one with a lot of miles on it. Some of them tend to get worked really hard. I expect, barring some accidental destruction, I could make a new Dodge last me the rest of my days. However, I also have to admit that I really do not need a 3/4 ton and a 1/2 ton with a gas engine probably makes a whole lot more sense. I just like the diesel. Unfortunately, the new diesels have become so fancy that there is no hope of having a lighter duty pickup with an engine as trouble free as my old MB. IF only there was. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL
WILTON wrote: I have photos if anybody cares to see 'em. Send 'em to the list, Kleb should have them approved by next month. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
G Mann wrote: It's my information. based on Ford diesel truck discussion board at the time, the issue with IH / Ford was actually with EPA. Story I've repeatedly heard is that Ford was found to have fudged the EPA emission numbers in order to make the ever tighter EPA restrictions, without incurring the extreme costs to pay IH to make the engines more EPA Compliant You're talking about the 444E / 7.3 PSD? I remember something about Ford eliminating the flow through fuel rails and just terminating the rail at the #8 injector. The only factory cure I can recall was the long lead injector that retarded the timing for that cylinder. Didn't entirely make the knock go away, but it made the engine a little less efficient. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
If I was in the market for a new light duty pickup it would be a Chevy 1/2 ton 4x4 gasser. Nice ride, best prices I have seen, efficient, powerful, reliable. Mike On Aug 8, 2013 1:02 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 08/08/2013 11:08 AM, Dieselhead wrote: I think the new diesel engine is Ford designed and produced. Did they not have some dispute with IH and that resulted in departure from use of the IH engines? My mechanic son has done a fair amount of work on diesel pickups in the last year or two. Ford head gaskets etc. GM injectors etc. Expensive and difficult to work on. Either the Dodge with the Cummins is better or his shop does not attract them as I don't think he has done any work on motors in those trucks. The last one I recall him commenting on was suspension work. Randy Cummins has been building Diesel engines for 100 years and know how to do it. (read My Days with the Diesel by Clessie Cummins) The problem with the cummins/dogde is weight. That is a heavy sucker. IH v8 engines are good, but the inline 6 (DT466 etc.) is great. same as the 1066 through 1486 tractors. Frod did their best fro screw up the IH engine from what I've heard. I think that contributed heavily to the divorce. The frod IH was not as good as the International IH v8 Diesel engine. Frod's ol tractor division could build a Diesel, and they had automotive versions for the RTW. That was sold off and is now a part of CNH, along with Case, what is left of IH farm, and a few others. It seems like they have dropped the frod name, as the new blue tractor are New Holland I head the frod 240 and 300 gas engines were the same block as the tractor engines. I'm not sure about that, but I know the 240 block was heavy. Right now, I don't think frod or gummit motors could build a good Diesel. The isuzu in the GM stuff seems to be ok, but I'm not sure the jury is on on that yet. Isuzu pretty much ripped off the Mercedes OM engines for some models, like the thermoking. __**_ If I had really deep pockets, I would consider a brand new Dodge with the Cummins. I am not sure I want to buy an older one with a lot of miles on it. Some of them tend to get worked really hard. I expect, barring some accidental destruction, I could make a new Dodge last me the rest of my days. However, I also have to admit that I really do not need a 3/4 ton and a 1/2 ton with a gas engine probably makes a whole lot more sense. I just like the diesel. Unfortunately, the new diesels have become so fancy that there is no hope of having a lighter duty pickup with an engine as trouble free as my old MB. IF only there was. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL
Yes, but meanwhile, I'll send a few of 'em to individuals, if ya want. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL WILTON wrote: I have photos if anybody cares to see 'em. Send 'em to the list, Kleb should have them approved by next month. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL
Bring a bigger trailer and you can get my '87 300SDL with a #22 head, too. Could do an engine swap, or at least a head swap. Body is scrap-worthy, transmission works fine but not new. I'll ask $800 OBRO, as-is where-is in Chapel Hill NC 27516. (Just off I-40; you can pull the engine, and drop the body at the junkyard on the way to Wilton's! :) Best, -Tim On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:28 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yes, but meanwhile, I'll send a few of 'em to individuals, if ya want. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL WILTON wrote: I have photos if anybody cares to see 'em. Send 'em to the list, Kleb should have them approved by next month. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
Randy wrote: However, I also have to admit that I really do not need a 3/4 ton and a 1/2 ton with a gas engine probably makes a whole lot more sense. I just like the diesel. Unfortunately, the new diesels have become so fancy that there is no hope of having a lighter duty pickup with an engine as trouble free as my old MB. IF only there was. Well, what's wrong with a late '80s GM with the Detroit 6.2L? Not as trouble free as an MB, but close. Oh. It's kinda old - huh? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craig's List stuffed
Hendrik, for an Aussie you are quite billiant. I think trades welcome would add a little cachet. Other tried and true descriptors include: These cars are known to last for a million miles or more Some rust, about the size of a quarter indicates that you are honestly reporting a negligible amount of corrosion. Drives strong, many new parts, only highway miles ( very useful for high mileage cars), never driven in snow (esp. if you're in the south) portray an superior vehicle. The boast of a five speed transmission works equally well for cars with a 4 speed manual or 4 speed automatic shifter because hey, reverse is also a gear! And my all time favorite: Good condition for its age. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:35 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Thanks for all the good tips Henny. I'm probably already on Kaleb's CL crack list. I sent 'im some iPhone photos of the car today; 'didn't notice 'til I viewed 'em on my computer that couple of 'em are slightly out of focus - that's cause I couldn't hold my shaky hand still enough, but, of course, that's no excuse. 'Put coupla those in so they'd look familiar to 'im. Oh, included some with areas of shade, too - didn't wanta look too professional at it. 'Couldn't find any rust spots to include, though. 'Plenty of those on the POS's y'all've been slobbering (drooling) over. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craig's List stuffed I think we should help Wilton prepare an ad in the classic style. For starters you need to misspell Mercedes in the heading (OK there will need to be a lot of spelling mistake), this will get rid of a lot of time wasters, leaving those who are really searching and those who spell Mercedes, Mecedes. Make sure to put the word 'cheap' in there, that will really pull in the ones that have no money but do have a dream. Lots of exclamation marks!!! and CAPITALS Perhaps call it a S300DT, to make it sound like a fancy late model Merc? Lots of letters and numbers to make it sound cool. Don't go low on price, classic newbie mistake, this is a coleectible so go for 5k+ but you will be oppen to swaps or trades as weel!!! Yes you do need pictures but they need to be out of focus, at right angles or upside down, taken at night, really close up or really far away. Even better is if you have pictures on the computer, you take pictures of the pictures but they need to be blurry. Good in focus pictures that show all of the car are a dead give away that you are a craiglist noob and the hard core craiglist buyers will shun you. I think we all know what goes in the description, ice cold AC, 50mpg, second owner, bio diesel, will last for a 1000 years or these cars go forever (whichever comes first). Last of the over engineered Benses, bulletproof german engineering, always garaged, best you'll find, first to see will buy, don't really want to sell it, classic style, feel like a millionaire, etc Go heavy on generic description but vague on detail. For contact details, you need to put your mobile phone (I believe you call them cell phones, which I believe stems from the time when they used to be smuggled into prison, how this smuggling happened you don't want to know) number in there, so you get to talk to lots of nice folks, make sure to also put your home phone in too, your missus wants to get up every 5 minutes to talk to a nice dude who wants to know if you'll accept 200 plus his worn out motor cross bike, no point in not getting the missus involved, the family that sells together, stays together. Of course you could also put in your home address, so those without phones or the brains to use them can drive around and join you for a chat and test drive. Make sure to say that you don't respond to emails, this will make you look like a veteran of the craiglist However the ultimate is that you get your neighbour to list it for you, the listing on behalf of a friend ads are the top of the tree type, however perhaps you should not overdo it for your first time? Up to you, I have no doubt that you can handle a 'behalf of a friend' ad but perhaps it may be a touch too much for a first time, you know if you make a mistake, like uploading a decent picture or saying it's 40mpg instead of 50, could lead to all sorts of hard questions being asked, which may test your friendship. Perhaps until you get the hang of a proper CL ad you should keep it in house? Well there is a a bit to get you lot started on the bestest CL ad ever, that will be guaranteed to draw in the weirdos from far and wide and you will get some great offers, some will want to swap their collectibles/junk and such for your car. You just never know what treasures you could end up with. All part of the adventure. Remember if you do this all
Re: [MBZ] God intervenes on a 124 Benz
My GF drives a FFocus. It really is quite a nice little car. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: Do they make Foci in South America? Gerry He drives a Ford Focus around Vatican City. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 7, 2013, at 8:55 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@** constructivity.net richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: The new Papa eschews the stately entrapments and prefers a more pedestrian ride, or to be pedestrian. Before his promotion he rode the bus around BA. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Aug 7, 2013, at 8:51 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Well the pope rides in a Benz, so I would assume that God has a collection, my guess would be the big 600 is his daily. Anyway this is going to be more fodder for those paranormal TV shows that ask more questions than they answer, well they answer no questions but have a lot of funky re-enactments. Hendrik who does not want to test the strength of 124 steel On 08/08/13 07:53, Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: For real. Watch the vid. I think the important part is: The Hannibal Fire Department showed up right after that prayer with fresh equipment and was able to finish the extrication. I don't know if they don't keep all their cutting tools sharp, or the first set got dull with no way to fix it so they were stalled until the second set showed up. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3209/6057 - Release Date: 08/06/13 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL
I was 'bout to say, My 91 350SDL could make an excellent candidate for transplant of '87 300D/SD/SDL engine. How many miles on that engine, Tim? Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL Bring a bigger trailer and you can get my '87 300SDL with a #22 head, too. Could do an engine swap, or at least a head swap. Body is scrap-worthy, transmission works fine but not new. I'll ask $800 OBRO, as-is where-is in Chapel Hill NC 27516. (Just off I-40; you can pull the engine, and drop the body at the junkyard on the way to Wilton's! :) Best, -Tim On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:28 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yes, but meanwhile, I'll send a few of 'em to individuals, if ya want. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL WILTON wrote: I have photos if anybody cares to see 'em. Send 'em to the list, Kleb should have them approved by next month. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL
Wilton. Pretty please. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL Yes, but meanwhile, I'll send a few of 'em to individuals, if ya want. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL WILTON wrote: I have photos if anybody cares to see 'em. Send 'em to the list, Kleb should have them approved by next month. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
On 08/08/2013 1:16 PM, Fmiser wrote: Randy wrote: However, I also have to admit that I really do not need a 3/4 ton and a 1/2 ton with a gas engine probably makes a whole lot more sense. I just like the diesel. Unfortunately, the new diesels have become so fancy that there is no hope of having a lighter duty pickup with an engine as trouble free as my old MB. IF only there was. Well, what's wrong with a late '80s GM with the Detroit 6.2L? Not as trouble free as an MB, but close. Oh. It's kinda old - huh? -- Philip ___ That and the fact that crew cab trucks back then were work trucks. I don't need an 8 foot box behind a crew cab when I try to park the thing. Randy who is full of excuses ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Someone Needs This
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPER-RARE-WHITE-BLUE-EURO-MERCEDES-W124-1989-200D-DIESEL-5-SPEED-SEDAN-/130951198419?forcerrptr=truehash=item1e7d4cb6d3item=130951198419pt=US_Cars_Trucks Not mine, etc. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
Interesting comment. Along with my 83 300d, I also drive an r3500 Chevy crewcab with 6.2 and sm465 4 speed tranny. The 6.2 is efficient but not powerful like a Cummins or Powerstroke. If you drive it completely the opposite of the Benz it is cheap to run and reliable. If you run it hard it will eat fuel like a small block gasser in a way too big truck. Just got done replacing the engine, trans and many other parts after 4 years of veggie oil abuse, hauling junk and trips all over the east coast. $500 for 50k mile rv engine, $100 for quiet, low miles tranny, and maybe $1000 into random other crap and it is as good as brand new. Comparing to the Benz.it is WAY easier to work on, requires almost no special tools, likes lower rpm's but will need an occasional Italian tuneup, does not like wvo without conversion(rotary pump vs. inline on MBZ) and will destroy pumps right away if you try it(I learned the hard way). Mike On Aug 8, 2013 2:17 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Randy wrote: However, I also have to admit that I really do not need a 3/4 ton and a 1/2 ton with a gas engine probably makes a whole lot more sense. I just like the diesel. Unfortunately, the new diesels have become so fancy that there is no hope of having a lighter duty pickup with an engine as trouble free as my old MB. IF only there was. Well, what's wrong with a late '80s GM with the Detroit 6.2L? Not as trouble free as an MB, but close. Oh. It's kinda old - huh? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] God intervenes on a 124 Benz
Both of mine have been great cars. I would consider owning another if I needed inexpensive reliable transportation. Dan On Aug 8, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: My GF drives a FFocus. It really is quite a nice little car. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: Do they make Foci in South America? Gerry He drives a Ford Focus around Vatican City. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 7, 2013, at 8:55 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@** constructivity.net richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: The new Papa eschews the stately entrapments and prefers a more pedestrian ride, or to be pedestrian. Before his promotion he rode the bus around BA. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Aug 7, 2013, at 8:51 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Well the pope rides in a Benz, so I would assume that God has a collection, my guess would be the big 600 is his daily. Anyway this is going to be more fodder for those paranormal TV shows that ask more questions than they answer, well they answer no questions but have a lot of funky re-enactments. Hendrik who does not want to test the strength of 124 steel On 08/08/13 07:53, Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: For real. Watch the vid. I think the important part is: The Hannibal Fire Department showed up right after that prayer with fresh equipment and was able to finish the extrication. I don't know if they don't keep all their cutting tools sharp, or the first set got dull with no way to fix it so they were stalled until the second set showed up. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3209/6057 - Release Date: 08/06/13 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
When I was looking at trucksa few months ago, I ruled out the GMs due to NO room behind the seat (single cab, basic truck). The Dodge had the lowest payload capacity of the three in a bottom of the line truck, so it got ruled out. The discount, no haggle, fixed price via the EAA membership sealed the deal, and we got a Frod, single cab, 8 ft. bed, electric windows and locks (because we are getting old), new because I'm spending all my free time playing with airplanes now. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '77 300D ACC2 widget
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes: What's wrong with the Unwired Tools kit, besides the fact that it's way overpriced for something that anyone with some electronics and fabrication skill should be able to cobble together out of an Arduino and some aquarium tubing? I think the Unwired kit pre-dates the availability of cheap, flexible microcontrollers like arduino. Someone with motivation could proably drastically undercut their price now. But the hard part is figuring out how all the different modes of operation work. I think there's enough documetation of the ACC online to be able to work it out, but it would take some time and tinkering. And the market for it is pretty tiny now and will only get smaller. I took this puppy apart the other night. It was shockingly corroded, and I still don't understand exactly how the vacuum part works. Not a super-complex mechanism mechanically though. (By the way, Mitch wins the first question; I was able to put a #10 in the bad slot and it is now air- and hopefully water-tight.) The main section, the big round part that is cracked, has a 9-or-10-gear reducer and a motor in it. It distance-limits the turning of the gearing with a peg through a plastic gear, and all but one of the other gears in the reducer appear to be copper. The gear farthest from the motor is in the middle, turns the fastest, and has a friction coupling to a screw-and-gasket. This last moves up and down, in conjunction with a small straw, to let more or less water from the main channel [which I assume is pass-through to the radiator] to the small channel [which I assume goes to the cabin]. I could not get a strong seal even with the screw all the way closed; so either the rubber is old or there is supposed to be a very small amount of water movement even if the AC is on. All my gears were completely frozen, both with corrosion and ancient grease. I was able to pull two locking rings off the gear assembly, and one of the gearsets pushed out the bottom. The other was stuck until I pried up the center gear, which sits on a friction ring, then I could knock the remaining gears out. The casing is a pair of flat metal pieces that screw together, functional but again not complex. The motor has two leads. Mine are broken off, but it looks like a standard 12V motor so the pegs should be on the end somewhere. There was a capacitor (?) across the terminals, at one point, but it fell off many years ago and has too much corrosion on it for me to identify. I haven't decided if I want to try to fix the motor, I'm quite sure the alignment on this whole thing is way out of whack. At the top of the gearset there is an armature that moves back and forth between a maze of contacts. It looks like this maze determines the direction of the motor. The armature rests on a switch, and the switch has a rubber piece that has another complex maze set into it. I -think- if you pull a vacuum on a certain part of this maze from above, the armature is supposed to turn into place and set the appropriate voltage for the motor. If you pull too hard (or maybe stop pulling?) then the switch will lift, and that cuts off power to the motor. There are still some unexplained things - there is a vacuum port on the bottom of the controller that doesn't seem to do anything, but has a nice gasket embedded in the plastic. I still don't understand why there are so many vacuum points in the main connection. I have no idea how the AC is triggered. There's a spring inside the big channel that I can't explain. Probably some other stuff. I didn't find as much vacuum stuff as I was expecting; there was a bank of right-angle connectors, but that's all I came across. It may be there is some channel thing between those and the armature that I haven't figured out how to open, yet. Unfortunately while I was taking pictures my phone got full, so I don't have many. As I go through to grease, solder, and close it up I will try to get more, in case someone else wants to try it some day. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craig's List stuffed
Yes, Hendrick missed his calling --- his talent is wasted digging dirt. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Hendrik, for an Aussie you are quite billiant. I think trades welcome would add a little cachet. Other tried and true descriptors include: These cars are known to last for a million miles or more Some rust, about the size of a quarter indicates that you are honestly reporting a negligible amount of corrosion. Drives strong, many new parts, only highway miles ( very useful for high mileage cars), never driven in snow (esp. if you're in the south) portray an superior vehicle. The boast of a five speed transmission works equally well for cars with a 4 speed manual or 4 speed automatic shifter because hey, reverse is also a gear! And my all time favorite: Good condition for its age. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:35 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Thanks for all the good tips Henny. I'm probably already on Kaleb's CL crack list. I sent 'im some iPhone photos of the car today; 'didn't notice 'til I viewed 'em on my computer that couple of 'em are slightly out of focus - that's cause I couldn't hold my shaky hand still enough, but, of course, that's no excuse. 'Put coupla those in so they'd look familiar to 'im. Oh, included some with areas of shade, too - didn't wanta look too professional at it. 'Couldn't find any rust spots to include, though. 'Plenty of those on the POS's y'all've been slobbering (drooling) over. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craig's List stuffed I think we should help Wilton prepare an ad in the classic style. For starters you need to misspell Mercedes in the heading (OK there will need to be a lot of spelling mistake), this will get rid of a lot of time wasters, leaving those who are really searching and those who spell Mercedes, Mecedes. Make sure to put the word 'cheap' in there, that will really pull in the ones that have no money but do have a dream. Lots of exclamation marks!!! and CAPITALS Perhaps call it a S300DT, to make it sound like a fancy late model Merc? Lots of letters and numbers to make it sound cool. Don't go low on price, classic newbie mistake, this is a coleectible so go for 5k+ but you will be oppen to swaps or trades as weel!!! Yes you do need pictures but they need to be out of focus, at right angles or upside down, taken at night, really close up or really far away. Even better is if you have pictures on the computer, you take pictures of the pictures but they need to be blurry. Good in focus pictures that show all of the car are a dead give away that you are a craiglist noob and the hard core craiglist buyers will shun you. I think we all know what goes in the description, ice cold AC, 50mpg, second owner, bio diesel, will last for a 1000 years or these cars go forever (whichever comes first). Last of the over engineered Benses, bulletproof german engineering, always garaged, best you'll find, first to see will buy, don't really want to sell it, classic style, feel like a millionaire, etc Go heavy on generic description but vague on detail. For contact details, you need to put your mobile phone (I believe you call them cell phones, which I believe stems from the time when they used to be smuggled into prison, how this smuggling happened you don't want to know) number in there, so you get to talk to lots of nice folks, make sure to also put your home phone in too, your missus wants to get up every 5 minutes to talk to a nice dude who wants to know if you'll accept 200 plus his worn out motor cross bike, no point in not getting the missus involved, the family that sells together, stays together. Of course you could also put in your home address, so those without phones or the brains to use them can drive around and join you for a chat and test drive. Make sure to say that you don't respond to emails, this will make you look like a veteran of the craiglist However the ultimate is that you get your neighbour to list it for you, the listing on behalf of a friend ads are the top of the tree type, however perhaps you should not overdo it for your first time? Up to you, I have no doubt that you can handle a 'behalf of a friend' ad but perhaps it may be a touch too much for a first time, you know if you make a mistake, like uploading a decent picture or saying it's 40mpg instead of 50, could lead to all sorts of hard questions being asked, which may test your friendship. Perhaps until you get the hang of a proper CL ad you should keep it in house? Well there is a a bit to get you lot started on the bestest CL ad ever, that will be guaranteed to draw in
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
I was thinking about diesel pickups yesterday. If VW can make a 2.0l 4cyl diesel with 140hp and 250lb/ft of torque why can't somebody make a 4.0l v6 with 200hp 400lb/ft and put it in a 1/2 ton pickup? The answer is that of course they can and a discussion at work on Monday explains why they don't. My boss just bought a 2013 Passat TDI, he loves it and on his long highway commute it makes perfect sense. A co-worker also has a long highway commute and was thinking of buying a hybrid. We explained how her thinking is exactly backwards of sense and how with a TDI she can have a bigger, faster, more comfortable car that gets the same or slightly better mileage. She was absolutely convinced that diesel = slow, smokey, won't start cold until we took her for a ride in the Passat. Now she knows truth and will probably buy one. The interesting thing about the TDI is that one ride makes you a believer, low down torque is awesome. Unfortunately American diesels are LOUD. The pickups are absurdly loud to begin with and then the idiots dork them out with big stacks and whatnot and just turn up the fuel until they belch black smoke... -Curt Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 12:01:47 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks? Message-ID: 5203cefb.70...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed If I had really deep pockets, I would consider a brand new Dodge with the Cummins. I am not sure I want to buy an older one with a lot of miles on it. Some of them tend to get worked really hard. I expect, barring some accidental destruction, I could make a new Dodge last me the rest of my days. However, I also have to admit that I really do not need a 3/4 ton and a 1/2 ton with a gas engine probably makes a whole lot more sense. I just like the diesel. Unfortunately, the new diesels have become so fancy that there is no hope of having a lighter duty pickup with an engine as trouble free as my old MB. IF only there was. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
Didn't I say that a year ago? :-) On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: The interesting thing about the TDI is that one ride makes you a believer, low down torque is awesome. -Curt -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 2:25 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I was 'bout to say, My 91 350SDL could make an excellent candidate for transplant of '87 300D/SD/SDL engine. How many miles on that engine, Tim? That's a great question. :) 330k? on the chassis, but the car went through two owners before I got it so I didn't get much history. Could be anywhere from 20K (my mileage) to 330K I suppose. Obviously the head isn't original, but the PO didn't know when it had been replaced, nor by whom. He had bought it after a wreck, so I don't think he drove it very far himself. I do have the autocheck somewhere, but it didn't have any maintenance history. I wonder, would repair places update historical records? Maybe it would be worthwhile getting a newer one. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
Hahahaha. Mine is like driving a narrow school bus. Long, slow, crude vinyl, plastic and steel interior and usually full of kids. Mike On Aug 8, 2013 2:29 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 08/08/2013 1:16 PM, Fmiser wrote: Randy wrote: However, I also have to admit that I really do not need a 3/4 ton and a 1/2 ton with a gas engine probably makes a whole lot more sense. I just like the diesel. Unfortunately, the new diesels have become so fancy that there is no hope of having a lighter duty pickup with an engine as trouble free as my old MB. IF only there was. Well, what's wrong with a late '80s GM with the Detroit 6.2L? Not as trouble free as an MB, but close. Oh. It's kinda old - huh? -- Philip __**_ That and the fact that crew cab trucks back then were work trucks. I don't need an 8 foot box behind a crew cab when I try to park the thing. Randy who is full of excuses __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL
It needs one like the one in my 124 sitting here beside it - 130 kmi. ;) But it sure would be a pity for it to go to the knackers - a mighty fine car. Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 2:25 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I was 'bout to say, My 91 350SDL could make an excellent candidate for transplant of '87 300D/SD/SDL engine. How many miles on that engine, Tim? That's a great question. :) 330k? on the chassis, but the car went through two owners before I got it so I didn't get much history. Could be anywhere from 20K (my mileage) to 330K I suppose. Obviously the head isn't original, but the PO didn't know when it had been replaced, nor by whom. He had bought it after a wreck, so I don't think he drove it very far himself. I do have the autocheck somewhere, but it didn't have any maintenance history. I wonder, would repair places update historical records? Maybe it would be worthwhile getting a newer one. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
I agree, the one I rented recently was a nice ride. I wish I knew which engine it had, I'm guessing v6. I just checked Chevy's website and it turns out thats a 4.3l. I'm actually pretty impressed with it for such a large vehicle. Pulling a 240D on a trailer (not a tow dolly) isn't a minor job. If I were going to have one I'd think hard about the v8. Fueleconomy.gov says the v6 in a 4wd will do 19mpg combined, the v8 18mpg. Thats pretty dammed impressive in a full size truck. My 2003 Ranger is rated for 15 (!) combined, we usually average around 19 on long highway trips, I bet that Silverado will push 25 if you keep your foot out of it. Ford doesn't have 2014 F150 data up yet but the 2013 3.5l turbo v6 only does 17mpg combined. GM claims 285hp 305 lb/ft of torque out of the 4.3 but it must be up very high in the power band. I kept it in 3rd gear climbing hills on the highway at 60mph, its got very long legs which I find kind of silly in a 6spd. Ford claims 365/420 out of the 3.5l eco-boost which I think is absurd. Both GM and Ford must be quoting crank power to begin with and its got to be up in the stratosphere for revs. Ford also says 16/22mpg, same as the GM v8. Tossing Dodge into the mix you have to go back to 2012 to get numbers on fueleconomy.gov 14/19 isn't a big loss from the others considering we're talking a v8, 290hp and 320lb/ft. I'd have to drive them all to decide but on paper I'd have the Silverado. The only complaint I have, and this is a complaint about all new cars in general is the feeling of being divorced from the road. For normal highway driving this is no big problem, but as soon as you go offroad and need to decide how much power is too much power or is this water hole too deep or is there too much mud here you have no confidence because you can't feel anything. My dad has a Jeep Liberty thats like that. One of my favorite thing about the Ranger as a woods truck is the wealth of good feedback it gives you. -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 13:22:02 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks? Message-ID: CALHJ_1Abmuh-ubQ8qCfv-F5BeFL=iveayfxjy2frh33+yjn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If I was in the market for a new light duty pickup it would be a Chevy 1/2 ton 4x4 gasser. Nice ride, best prices I have seen, efficient, powerful, reliable. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] God intervenes on a 124 Benz
I thought your WIFE drive a Smart. Something going on you aren't telling us about? -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:25:55 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] God intervenes on a 124 Benz Message-ID: CAC35L=v=9F56UfKxV=5Rd02x2aUsv747Ce=_7dupo3_sddl...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My GF drives a FFocus. It really is quite a nice little car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL
ROAD TRIP! We'll rent that Chevy I had the other day. Actually now that I think of it Avis owes me a couple free weekend rentals. The flight down will be relatively cheap, its maybe a 14-15 hour ride back? No sweat. I'll buy your 190D and you can honestly tell your wife you haven't gained any cars. -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 11:27:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL Message-ID: 1375986423.51069.yahoomail...@web141502.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Wilton. Pretty please. ? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
Fmiser wrote: Well, what's wrong with a late '80s GM with the Detroit 6.2L? Not as trouble free as an MB, but close. Michael wrote: Interesting comment. Along with my 83 300d, I also drive an r3500 Chevy crewcab with 6.2 and sm465 4 speed tranny. The 6.2 is efficient but not powerful like a Cummins or Powerstroke. If you drive it completely the opposite of the Benz it is cheap to run and reliable. If you run it hard it will eat fuel like a small block gasser in a way too big truck. No - not _that_ much fuel. And while the 465 is a strong transmission, without an overdrive you have to drive slow on the highway to keep the RPM down where the fuel use is low. NV4500 is a good candidate. Comparing to the Benz.it is WAY easier to work on I disagree. My 123s are much less likely to have seized fasteners, has more replaceable components, and is engineered for maintenance. I think. :) requires almost no special tools And a similar vintage Mercedes does? likes lower rpm's but will need an occasional Italian tuneup Hmm. Lower RPM is necessary for low fuel use, and it isn't fond of running long term against the governor. But it doesn't seem to mind being run up, say, to climb a hill. does not like wvo without conversion(rotary pump vs. inline on MBZ) and will destroy pumps right away. And the Mercedes is destroyed - just not quite as fast? If I could find a Mercedes older than mid-1990's that could seat more than 8 people, still have interior cargo room, and pull a 9,000 lb [4,000 kg] trailer I would gladly consider replacing my Suburban. Meanwhile, I'm on the lookout for a pickup like what Randy doesn't want. Crewcab, 4WD, manual transmission, 8ft or longer bed, single wheel 1-ton, diesel, pre-1995 preferred as this is to be for rough farm-truck duty. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts
Ditto Tim! LarryT On 8/5/2013 10:48 AM, Tim Crone wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: there is nothing more. these two people who continue to attack me are simply being ignored. if anyone knows how i can block their posts on gmail, i'd appreciate knowing this On the dropdown to the right of Reply: Filter messages like this, type the e-mail address, create filter, Delete it. Doesn't work if you are already in a filtered view, but in your main Gmail view it should. Best, Tim PS - welcome back :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL
Curt. Whoa! The request was for photos. I'm already one foot on thin ice and the other on a banana peel. DO like the car though! Nas car thayut. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL ROAD TRIP! We'll rent that Chevy I had the other day. Actually now that I think of it Avis owes me a couple free weekend rentals. The flight down will be relatively cheap, its maybe a 14-15 hour ride back? No sweat. I'll buy your 190D and you can honestly tell your wife you haven't gained any cars. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
I'm preaching it brother. Still I like the Jetta and the 6spd manual better. I think the Passat stretches the lines out and makes it kind of look like a frog. The 6spd manual is a hoot and a hollar. -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 13:56:38 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks? Message-ID: canzcij_evgze4os85wx+c4wwf88v1grwmbcfeuheato-ku9...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Didn't I say that a year ago? :-) On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: The interesting thing about the TDI is that one ride makes you a believer, low down torque is awesome. -Curt -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
Anything like that around here is beat. Its already been a farm truck, or garage truck, or yard truck or worst of all a quarry truck. It maybe doesn't have big mileage but tons of hours and a body that is totally beat and they want $5000 for it... -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:24:17 -0500 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks? Message-ID: 20130808142417.58b4a...@jasper.condray.lan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Fmiser wrote: Meanwhile, I'm on the lookout for a pickup like what Randy doesn't want. Crewcab, 4WD, manual transmission, 8ft or longer bed, single wheel 1-ton, diesel, pre-1995 preferred as this is to be for rough farm-truck duty. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACA
you said i'm more thinking to wait and see on obamacare Unfortunately with obamacare there will be no choice - you can wait and see, but you will only see one thing - what they are willing to provide. - the traditional insurance companies are already leaving those states where they cannot make a profit. governments don't need to make a profit - they have the ability to tax .. you will be forced to take whatever the govt wants to give and there will be no competing places to take your business. What the government gives the govt can take away. the comments about being able to keep our insurance companies and doctors may sound great -- until you realize the regulations are written precisely to force the insurance companies out of business, bingo, no more competition. Many doctors are following suit and retiring early or leaving the profession. Soon, the government will be running the medical industry. just like they ran Soc Security, Amtrak, Medicare and all the other business they are running - even though they have no business running businesses. LarryT On 8/1/2013 11:43 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i'm more thinking to wait and see on obamacare. lots of propaganda now but reality will be someone different. maybe good. maybe bad. i will reserve judgment until i see it in action it's like that new google nexus 7. looks GREAT on paper, but i won't consider buying it until it's been out for a few months and has some kind of track record in actual performance. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL
Flight is around a hundred bucks. It was around a hundred bucks for me to rent the pickup the other day but I worked it hard. Avis says it'll be more like $250 for what we'd need. Gas is probably another hundred and another hundred to Uhaul I suspect. It'd be interesting to know how much it would cost to ship. Tell ya what, you've been such a good friend to me I'll foot my own flight just for the adventure of the thing! We can even stay a night on the road, I've got a million Holiday Inn points... ;) -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 12:42:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL Message-ID: 1375990921.66896.yahoomail...@web141503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Curt. Whoa! The request was for photos. I'm already one foot on thin ice and the other on a banana peel. DO like the car though! Nas car thayut. ? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL ROAD TRIP! We'll rent that Chevy I had the other day. Actually now that I think of it Avis owes me a couple free weekend rentals. The flight down will be relatively cheap, its maybe a 14-15 hour ride back? No sweat. I'll buy your 190D and you can honestly tell your wife you haven't gained any cars. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Someone Needs This
Nice... manual climate control. Didn't even wait for the armor-all to burn off the manifold before taking the pictures Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com writes: http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPER-RARE-WHITE-BLUE-EURO-MERCEDES-W124-1989-200D-DIESEL-5-SPEED-SEDAN-/130951198419?forcerrptr=truehash=item1e7d4cb6d3item=130951198419pt=US_Cars_Trucks Not mine, etc. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL
Actually on second thought Google says its not quite 12 hours from Lynn to Goldsboro, we'd probably be just as well off to rent the truck here and drive both ways. Boston Avis has better options than Raleigh anyway. ;) -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 12:42:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL Message-ID: 1375990921.66896.yahoomail...@web141503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Curt. Whoa! The request was for photos. I'm already one foot on thin ice and the other on a banana peel. DO like the car though! Nas car thayut. ? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACA
right, i wish to see what they are willing to provide. we currently have the most broken healthcare non-system in the history of the world and more an more people are being shut out of it. i'd rather take my shot with obamacare rather that stay with the current disaster and i will reserve judgment on it until i see it in action. i may end up unhappy with the results of this but it is the course i intend to take unless someone changes my mind with compelling new facts or logic On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: you said i'm more thinking to wait and see on obamacare Unfortunately with obamacare there will be no choice - you can wait and see, but you will only see one thing - what they are willing to provide. - the traditional insurance companies are already leaving those states where they cannot make a profit. governments don't need to make a profit - they have the ability to tax .. you will be forced to take whatever the govt wants to give and there will be no competing places to take your business. What the government gives the govt can take away. the comments about being able to keep our insurance companies and doctors may sound great -- until you realize the regulations are written precisely to force the insurance companies out of business, bingo, no more competition. Many doctors are following suit and retiring early or leaving the profession. Soon, the government will be running the medical industry. just like they ran Soc Security, Amtrak, Medicare and all the other business they are running - even though they have no business running businesses. LarryT On 8/1/2013 11:43 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i'm more thinking to wait and see on obamacare. lots of propaganda now but reality will be someone different. maybe good. maybe bad. i will reserve judgment until i see it in action it's like that new google nexus 7. looks GREAT on paper, but i won't consider buying it until it's been out for a few months and has some kind of track record in actual performance. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] VW Passat TDI
Former DIL just stopped by to show me (ask my opinion) of new VW Passat Diesel TDI. Nice-looking, quiet, good-riding car. No, I'm not considering one, but what do y'all think of 'em? 'Seems strange to me sitting down in there so low; 'course I'm used to '87 and '91 MB's. I'd hafta do something to get those front seats elevated a bit. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL
Straight down I-95. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL Actually on second thought Google says its not quite 12 hours from Lynn to Goldsboro, we'd probably be just as well off to rent the truck here and drive both ways. Boston Avis has better options than Raleigh anyway. ;) -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 12:42:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL Message-ID: 1375990921.66896.yahoomail...@web141503.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Curt. Whoa! The request was for photos. I'm already one foot on thin ice and the other on a banana peel. DO like the car though! Nas car thayut. ? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
Well, I asked, then noticed y'all're already talking 'bout 'em. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 4:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI Former DIL just stopped by to show me (ask my opinion) of new VW Passat Diesel TDI. Nice-looking, quiet, good-riding car. No, I'm not considering one, but what do y'all think of 'em? 'Seems strange to me sitting down in there so low; 'course I'm used to '87 and '91 MB's. I'd hafta do something to get those front seats elevated a bit. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL
Curt. As I said to Dwight, Get thee behind me. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL Flight is around a hundred bucks. It was around a hundred bucks for me to rent the pickup the other day but I worked it hard. Avis says it'll be more like $250 for what we'd need. Gas is probably another hundred and another hundred to Uhaul I suspect. It'd be interesting to know how much it would cost to ship. Tell ya what, you've been such a good friend to me I'll foot my own flight just for the adventure of the thing! We can even stay a night on the road, I've got a million Holiday Inn points... ;) -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] God intervenes on a 124 Benz
Hahaha. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I thought your WIFE drive a Smart. Something going on you aren't telling us about? -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:25:55 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] God intervenes on a 124 Benz Message-ID: CAC35L=v=9F56UfKxV=5Rd02x2aUsv747Ce=_7dupo3_sddl...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My GF drives a FFocus. It really is quite a nice little car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
I saw a really nice new VW diesel pickup in Argentina, it was sort of the mid-sized size but was really nice. --R On 8/8/13 2:48 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I was thinking about diesel pickups yesterday. If VW can make a 2.0l 4cyl diesel with 140hp and 250lb/ft of torque why can't somebody make a 4.0l v6 with 200hp 400lb/ft and put it in a 1/2 ton pickup? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACA
It will be a worse disaster, so sayeth my in-house medical professional. Think of the IRS, Post Office, DMV, building inspections, and welfare office all running the medical system. --R On 8/8/13 4:11 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: right, i wish to see what they are willing to provide. we currently have the most broken healthcare non-system in the history of the world and more an more people are being shut out of it. i'd rather take my shot with obamacare rather that stay with the current disaster and i will reserve judgment on it until i see it in action. i may end up unhappy with the results of this but it is the course i intend to take unless someone changes my mind with compelling new facts or logic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
On 08/08/2013 1:48 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I was thinking about diesel pickups yesterday. If VW can make a 2.0l 4cyl diesel with 140hp and 250lb/ft of torque why can't somebody make a 4.0l v6 with 200hp 400lb/ft and put it in a 1/2 ton pickup? The answer is that of course they can and a discussion at work on Monday explains why they don't. My boss just bought a 2013 Passat TDI, he loves it and on his long highway commute it makes perfect sense. A co-worker also has a long highway commute and was thinking of buying a hybrid. We explained how her thinking is exactly backwards of sense and how with a TDI she can have a bigger, faster, more comfortable car that gets the same or slightly better mileage. She was absolutely convinced that diesel = slow, smokey, won't start cold until we took her for a ride in the Passat. Now she knows truth and will probably buy one. The interesting thing about the TDI is that one ride makes you a believer, low down torque is awesome. Unfortunately American diesels are LOUD. The pickups are absurdly loud to begin with and then the idiots dork them out with big stacks and whatnot and just turn up the fuel until they belch black smoke... -Curt My recollection is that just before the economic collapse and the bankruptcy of GM etc, there was talk of the NA big 3 producing a V6 diesel engine in 1/2 ton trucks. All that sort of fell apart with the recession etc. I was waiting for that to happen as, like I have said more than once, I really do not need a 3/4 ton with a 7 liter engine. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] God intervenes on a 124 Benz
His former GF/SO/POTOSSLQ drove a Smart I think. She ate a merde del gato tomate and got sick and died from parasites and viri. Now he is free to find other merde del gato victims. --R On 8/8/13 4:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Hahaha. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I thought your WIFE drive a Smart. Something going on you aren't telling us about? -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:25:55 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] God intervenes on a 124 Benz Message-ID: CAC35L=v=9F56UfKxV=5Rd02x2aUsv747Ce=_7dupo3_sddl...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My GF drives a FFocus. It really is quite a nice little car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
My very limited experience with diesel trucks is all fairly remote. As I said, earlier, my son is a mechanic and does some work on diesel pickups. He tells me how messy, difficult and expensive they are to repair. He was working on a late model GM Duramax recently. (an 08 if I recall correctly) A bit of a long story but someone had hired the shop to install a rebuilt engine in the truck. Tom could not get it to run properly. He was convinced it needed injectors but they run something like $800 each and the truck owner did not want to pay for them so they checked a few other things and improved it somewhat and the owner took it away. It may come back yet I suspect. Tom felt that the rebuild was pretty bad as he thought they should have checked and rebuilt the injectors along with the engine. In any event, he spent the better part of a week trying to make it run right and the shop got paid for his time but they never got it to work the way it should. He said at the outset, it could not get into the shop unless he took a run a it because there was a lip of about an inch at the entrance to the shop. By the time he was done with it, he said you could drive it at highway speeds but it still had no real power like it should have. He had replaced the worst 3 injectors but suspected the rest needed to be done too. He had also discovered some broken wires and repaired them. I cannot recall exactly what that related to but it was in under the valve covers so maybe to injectors? What year is your Chevy Mike? Randy On 08/08/2013 1:36 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Interesting comment. Along with my 83 300d, I also drive an r3500 Chevy crewcab with 6.2 and sm465 4 speed tranny. The 6.2 is efficient but not powerful like a Cummins or Powerstroke. If you drive it completely the opposite of the Benz it is cheap to run and reliable. If you run it hard it will eat fuel like a small block gasser in a way too big truck. Just got done replacing the engine, trans and many other parts after 4 years of veggie oil abuse, hauling junk and trips all over the east coast. $500 for 50k mile rv engine, $100 for quiet, low miles tranny, and maybe $1000 into random other crap and it is as good as brand new. Comparing to the Benz.it is WAY easier to work on, requires almost no special tools, likes lower rpm's but will need an occasional Italian tuneup, does not like wvo without conversion(rotary pump vs. inline on MBZ) and will destroy pumps right away if you try it(I learned the hard way). Mike On Aug 8, 2013 2:17 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Randy wrote: However, I also have to admit that I really do not need a 3/4 ton and a 1/2 ton with a gas engine probably makes a whole lot more sense. I just like the diesel. Unfortunately, the new diesels have become so fancy that there is no hope of having a lighter duty pickup with an engine as trouble free as my old MB. IF only there was. Well, what's wrong with a late '80s GM with the Detroit 6.2L? Not as trouble free as an MB, but close. Oh. It's kinda old - huh? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACA
Whatever you do, do not get bamboozled into SilverScript Rx coverage! These folks are a JOKE! G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Someone Needs This
How slow do you reckon that would be? Its the same OM601 as in my 190D, actually a 200D you'd figure would be smaller than the 2.2l in my 190D. Its got to be 240D speed... Should turn out fair mileage though, or kilometerage anyway. -Curt Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 16:02:03 -0400 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Someone Needs This Message-ID: m18v0cymro@cs.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain Nice... manual climate control. Didn't even wait for the armor-all to burn off the manifold before taking the pictures Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com writes: http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPER-RARE-WHITE-BLUE-EURO-MERCEDES-W124-1989-200D-DIESEL-5-SPEED-SEDAN-/130951198419?forcerrptr=truehash=item1e7d4cb6d3item=130951198419pt=US_Cars_Trucks Not mine, etc. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
A worthy replacement for your SD though I can't think you'd want the TDI other than for the power. The seats go up and down, I forget how on the new ones but when I took a '98 Jetta TDI for a ride I was worried because my head was scraping the ceiling the whole time, then I found what I thought was a recline lever and WHAM, bottom floor, I could barely see out the windshield... Careful alignment got me comfortable. -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 16:11:05 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI Message-ID: 1326FC6D087341808A7563DD1244A6D9@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Former DIL just stopped by to show me (ask my opinion) of new VW Passat Diesel TDI. Nice-looking, quiet, good-riding car. No, I'm not considering one, but what do y'all think of 'em? 'Seems strange to me sitting down in there so low; 'course I'm used to '87 and '91 MB's. I'd hafta do something to get those front seats elevated a bit. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] God intervenes on a 124 Benz
I need you to sample this truly amazing compost product, Rich. What's your mailing address? On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: His former GF/SO/POTOSSLQ drove a Smart I think. She ate a merde del gato tomate and got sick and died from parasites and viri. Now he is free to find other merde del gato victims. --R On 8/8/13 4:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Hahaha. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I thought your WIFE drive a Smart. Something going on you aren't telling us about? -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 14:25:55 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] God intervenes on a 124 Benz Message-ID: CAC35L=v=9F56UfKxV=**5Rd02x2aUsv747Ce=_7duPo3_** sddl...@mail.gmail.com 7dupo3_sddl...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My GF drives a FFocus. It really is quite a nice little car. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
Are they tinny and light bodied? On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: A worthy replacement for your SD though I can't think you'd want the TDI other than for the power. The seats go up and down, I forget how on the new ones but when I took a '98 Jetta TDI for a ride I was worried because my head was scraping the ceiling the whole time, then I found what I thought was a recline lever and WHAM, bottom floor, I could barely see out the windshield... Careful alignment got me comfortable. -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 16:11:05 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI Message-ID: 1326FC6D087341808A7563DD1244A6D9@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Former DIL just stopped by to show me (ask my opinion) of new VW Passat Diesel TDI. Nice-looking, quiet, good-riding car. No, I'm not considering one, but what do y'all think of 'em? 'Seems strange to me sitting down in there so low; 'course I'm used to '87 and '91 MB's. I'd hafta do something to get those front seats elevated a bit. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
No, it doesn't feel/sopund tinny and light (Passat). It is a delight to drive, plenty of power, decent handling (but not great). The seats are not as comfortable as Mercedesseats are, but otherwise it's a very nice car. They seat adjustments depend on the package level, ours (SE) has electrical drivers seat and manual passenges seat - go figure. The DSG tranny is also nice - a forget-about-it auto when you want that, a manual shift when you want that, without the ability to control the clutch, just the shifts. It's always very smooth. Rear seat legroom rivals an SDL - truly amazing, definately more than a short wheelbase 123/126. No, it's not a Mercedes replacement, but it is a decent general car, and is Diesel!!! On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Are they tinny and light bodied? -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACA
Gary, Let's see...2000 page bill nobody read, changes made to a law by the president and NOT congress, 16,000 pages of regulations that few have actually read. By the time you wait and see what's in it, everyone (except the politicians) will be screwed, including you. ACA is sorta like the Fair Tax...looks reasonable on paper, but a pure train wreck to try to implement. Everyone knows what is wrong with our current health care system, but can congress address those problems, no, they pass a new law to create new/different problems. Just sayin'.. Best Wishes, Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
Like I said, I'm not getting one. Former DIL is looking. Short time I was in right front seat, couldn't find height adjust; gotta be one there somewhere. I was way too low. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI A worthy replacement for your SD though I can't think you'd want the TDI other than for the power. The seats go up and down, I forget how on the new ones but when I took a '98 Jetta TDI for a ride I was worried because my head was scraping the ceiling the whole time, then I found what I thought was a recline lever and WHAM, bottom floor, I could barely see out the windshield... Careful alignment got me comfortable. -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 16:11:05 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI Message-ID: 1326FC6D087341808A7563DD1244A6D9@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Former DIL just stopped by to show me (ask my opinion) of new VW Passat Diesel TDI. Nice-looking, quiet, good-riding car. No, I'm not considering one, but what do y'all think of 'em? 'Seems strange to me sitting down in there so low; 'course I'm used to '87 and '91 MB's. I'd hafta do something to get those front seats elevated a bit. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
The wires are for the injectors. They are known to go bad and the hatness needs to be replaced so the injectors get the power they need before worrying about replacing any. Injector voltage is critical in a PSD. My truck is a 1990. Mike On Aug 8, 2013 4:40 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: My very limited experience with diesel trucks is all fairly remote. As I said, earlier, my son is a mechanic and does some work on diesel pickups. He tells me how messy, difficult and expensive they are to repair. He was working on a late model GM Duramax recently. (an 08 if I recall correctly) A bit of a long story but someone had hired the shop to install a rebuilt engine in the truck. Tom could not get it to run properly. He was convinced it needed injectors but they run something like $800 each and the truck owner did not want to pay for them so they checked a few other things and improved it somewhat and the owner took it away. It may come back yet I suspect. Tom felt that the rebuild was pretty bad as he thought they should have checked and rebuilt the injectors along with the engine. In any event, he spent the better part of a week trying to make it run right and the shop got paid for his time but they never got it to work the way it should. He said at the outset, it could not get into the shop unless he took a run a it because there was a lip of about an inch at the entrance to the shop. By the time he was done with it, he said you could drive it at highway speeds but it still had no real power like it should have. He had replaced the worst 3 injectors but suspected the rest needed to be done too. He had also discovered some broken wires and repaired them. I cannot recall exactly what that related to but it was in under the valve covers so maybe to injectors? What year is your Chevy Mike? Randy On 08/08/2013 1:36 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Interesting comment. Along with my 83 300d, I also drive an r3500 Chevy crewcab with 6.2 and sm465 4 speed tranny. The 6.2 is efficient but not powerful like a Cummins or Powerstroke. If you drive it completely the opposite of the Benz it is cheap to run and reliable. If you run it hard it will eat fuel like a small block gasser in a way too big truck. Just got done replacing the engine, trans and many other parts after 4 years of veggie oil abuse, hauling junk and trips all over the east coast. $500 for 50k mile rv engine, $100 for quiet, low miles tranny, and maybe $1000 into random other crap and it is as good as brand new. Comparing to the Benz.it is WAY easier to work on, requires almost no special tools, likes lower rpm's but will need an occasional Italian tuneup, does not like wvo without conversion(rotary pump vs. inline on MBZ) and will destroy pumps right away if you try it(I learned the hard way). Mike On Aug 8, 2013 2:17 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Randy wrote: However, I also have to admit that I really do not need a 3/4 ton and a 1/2 ton with a gas engine probably makes a whole lot more sense. I just like the diesel. Unfortunately, the new diesels have become so fancy that there is no hope of having a lighter duty pickup with an engine as trouble free as my old MB. IF only there was. Well, what's wrong with a late '80s GM with the Detroit 6.2L? Not as trouble free as an MB, but close. Oh. It's kinda old - huh? -- Philip __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
See below On Aug 8, 2013 3:24 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Fmiser wrote: Well, what's wrong with a late '80s GM with the Detroit 6.2L? Not as trouble free as an MB, but close. Michael wrote: Interesting comment. Along with my 83 300d, I also drive an r3500 Chevy crewcab with 6.2 and sm465 4 speed tranny. The 6.2 is efficient but not powerful like a Cummins or Powerstroke. If you drive it completely the opposite of the Benz it is cheap to run and reliable. If you run it hard it will eat fuel like a small block gasser in a way too big truck. No - not _that_ much fuel. And while the 465 is a strong transmission, without an overdrive you have to drive slow on the highway to keep the RPM down where the fuel use is low. NV4500 is a good candidate. A 4500 would be very nice. Can't afford one now though. The 6.2 is efficient but like you say, it is terrible if you run it at high rpm. I get around 20+ on average, I get 15 or less if running too fast on the highway. No idea right now as the speedo is broken but I put a bit taller tires on the back and it seems pretty good with the new engine. Comparing to the Benz.it is WAY easier to work on I disagree. My 123s are much less likely to have seized fasteners, has more replaceable components, and is engineered for maintenance. I think. :) My truck is not badly rusted and being the OBS Chevy it is super easy and cheap to work on. It is a work truck, maintenance is easy, there is nothing in the way of anything. Took me about 3 hours to swap out the injector pump. requires almost no special tools And a similar vintage Mercedes does? Ever change a Benz injector pump? How about a 6.2? A few wrenches for the GM, locking pins, drip tubes, etc for the MBZ. likes lower rpm's but will need an occasional Italian tuneup Hmm. Lower RPM is necessary for low fuel use, and it isn't fond of running long term against the governor. But it doesn't seem to mind being run up, say, to climb a hill. I am not afraid to run the Benz to the floor all of the time. The Chevy wouldn't take that for as long in my opinion. does not like wvo without conversion(rotary pump vs. inline on MBZ) and will destroy pumps right away. And the Mercedes is destroyed - just not quite as fast? Pretty much. The Bosch inline will run and start on cold wvo. The Stanadyne db2 on the 6.2 will break the main shaft right away with cold wvo. If I could find a Mercedes older than mid-1990's that could seat more than 8 people, still have interior cargo room, and pull a 9,000 lb [4,000 kg] trailer I would gladly consider replacing my Suburban. Nothing out there like your 'burban...they are awesome. Meanwhile, I'm on the lookout for a pickup like what Randy doesn't want. Crewcab, 4WD, manual transmission, 8ft or longer bed, single wheel 1-ton, diesel, pre-1995 preferred as this is to be for rough farm-truck duty. Mine has everything but 4wd. It is for sale. Want details? Mike -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACA
--R wrote: It will be a worse disaster, so sayeth my in-house medical professional. Think of the IRS, Post Office, DMV, building inspections, and welfare office all running the medical system. Probably. But... we have not seen it implemented or run. While watching it run or be implemented seems awful, we have zero choice in the matter. More wringing hands and zero choices. Freedom is just a word for nothing left to lose. Plenty of bad things are prophesied, many have not been seen. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
On 08/08/2013 4:48 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: The wires are for the injectors. They are known to go bad and the hatness needs to be replaced so the injectors get the power they need before worrying about replacing any. Injector voltage is critical in a PSD. My truck is a 1990. Mike On Aug 8, 2013 4:40 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: He was using a code reader of some sort that was giving him readouts that suggested certain injectors if my memory is accurate. He took some of the m apart and found all sorts of crud inside which is why he was unhappy with the re-build. He suggested to the boss that they just send it back and demand a proper job but the boss was convinced it was something that they had done on the install so T?om was very frustrated with it. I will ask him to tell me again this evening and try to retain until tomorrow. Since I have no personal experience with such an engine most of it is over my head and I find it hard to remember the details. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACA
Roger wrote: Everyone knows what is wrong with our current health care system, but.. Yes we do. Read The Law at mises.org or fee.org. Huge money pot waiting to be raided, i.e. insurance $$ is the pot. Eliminate the pot of $$, things have a chance to be priced at market levels. Same with public works, road building, education, military, defense, banking, etc. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACA
I actually one night read whatever version was posted before they voted on something that needed to be passed before we could find out what was in it. I think it was something like 1200 pages, but it was double and triple spaced and had very little on each page. A good part of the law addressed lots of other laws, and adding money to various programs that had nothing to do with health (or medical) care, or maybe peripherally. The parts that were related to health/medical care were pretty much incomprehensible, and referred to setting up various other boards and commissions and such to suss out the details. So basically there was not a lot in there to do with health/medical care and it just sorta kicked it down the road to these various other groups to try to figure out. So basically it spread a lot of money around, and gave the responsibility to bureaucrats who apparently would not really be answerable to any guiding or managing force. I think that is why it is a train wreck and nobody really knows what the hell it actually is, or does, or when, or how. Lucky us. I find it interesting that the unions don't like it, and the congressional staff don't like it. --R On 8/8/13 5:35 PM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: Let's see...2000 page bill nobody read, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] God intervenes on a 124 Benz
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Wash DC --R On 8/8/13 5:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need you to sample this truly amazing compost product, Rich. What's your mailing address? On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: His former GF/SO/POTOSSLQ drove a Smart I think. She ate a merde del gato tomate and got sick and died from parasites and viri. Now he is free to find other merde del gato victims. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craig's List stuffed
Andrew wrote: These cars are known to last for a million miles or more Ya gotta include the potential rod-bender as a plus issue in this. A rod-bender is sign of excellent engineering to make this care lust for miny hungred mules for the footure. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won
--R wrote: ...but still have my Schwinn 10spd in the garage I bought in high school, trading in my Stingray i outgrew, which would be worth a fortune today. I used to assemble Stingray bikes at the Schwinn shop. And, I still ride my 1938 rear drop-out New Departure Chicago Schwinn balloon tire bicycle - maybe it's also work a fortune today... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] God intervenes on a 124 Benz
Hendrik wrote: Well the pope rides in a Benz... Nope. At least last month in Brazil he didn't ride. I heard he walked. Correct? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
The Amarok, I saw it too when I was there in 2011. They look awesome, same engine as the Jetta/Passat -Curt Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 16:22:15 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks? Message-ID: 5203fdf7.5000...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I saw a really nice new VW diesel pickup in Argentina, it was sort of the mid-sized size but was really nice. --R On 8/8/13 2:48 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I was thinking about diesel pickups yesterday. If VW can make a 2.0l 4cyl diesel with 140hp and 250lb/ft of torque why can't somebody make a 4.0l v6 with 200hp 400lb/ft and put it in a 1/2 ton pickup? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACA
On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 18:13:49 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Lucky us. I find it interesting that the unions don't like it, and the congressional staff don't like it. The unions indeed do not like it. The congressional staff, however, have just been taken care of; they will get their monetary supplements to pay for their coverage. We have to pay for our own. Yes, lucky us. Craig refuse2enroll.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACA
On Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:07:37 -0500 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: --R wrote: It will be a worse disaster, so sayeth my in-house medical professional. Think of the IRS, Post Office, DMV, building inspections, and welfare office all running the medical system. Probably. But... we have not seen it implemented or run. While watching it run or be implemented seems awful, we have zero choice in the matter. Not so, refuse2enroll.com More wringing hands and zero choices. Freedom is just a word for nothing left to lose. Plenty of bad things are prophesied, many have not been seen. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 117 kmi '94 E420Oskar 127 kmi (awaiting parting out) '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 267 kmi (leaking diesel from somewhere in the engine compartment) Past: '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI
I don't think so but really theres not much that does anymore. I think the Jetta feels like a 124, they still call it a compact but I can fit in the back seat with the seats all the way back and the trunk is cavernous. -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:04:27 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW Passat TDI Message-ID: CAC35L=srLwwon07PnqWMn1tTYE=4XPFzxotE5Dp_2=gxa69...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Are they tinny and light bodied? On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: A worthy replacement for your SD though I can't think you'd want the TDI other than for the power. The seats go up and down, I forget how on the new ones but when I took a '98 Jetta TDI for a ride I was worried because my head was scraping the ceiling the whole time, then I found what I thought was a recline lever and WHAM, bottom floor, I could barely see out the windshield... Careful alignment got me comfortable. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Another oil thread
http://www.mbca.org/sites/default/files/oils_for_classic_british_cars.pdf swiped this from MBCA. It should provide a few hours of interesting discusison clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
At 02:48 PM 8/8/2013, Curt wrote: I was thinking about diesel pickups yesterday. If VW can make a 2.0l 4cyl diesel with 140hp and 250lb/ft of torque why can't somebody make a 4.0l v6 with 200hp 400lb/ft and put it in a 1/2 ton pickup? Dodge is supposed to have a V6 diesel option in their 2014 half ton pickup for $2800 extra. I continue to beat around a 2008 Silverado 4.3 4WD on my WV hill farm. No problems yet. I did have to replace the stock tires with mudders. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV Man's ingenuity was good. He saw it plainly where he stood, Yet found it easy to resist. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apfels WAS: Who change the Vegemite?
The real problems with apples grown in Washington State is the climate (warm and dry), irrigation, which tends to cause pithy apples, and the over-use of growth regulator sprays to make the apples pointy. The pointy apples are also mealier due to the excessive cell expansion that makes them pointy. It's not so much the varieties as the treatment. The Granny Smiths from Washington State are much less round than the NZ or Australian originals, and mealy to boot. Fortunately we have a local store chain that has excellent produce at very reasonable prices, including local grown produce in season, and they carry very nice apples all year. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] God intervenes on a 124 Benz
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Hahaha. OK, so who's Donna? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apfels WAS: Who change the Vegemite?
No, but I worked around a lot of them. Interestingly, we (the locals) never touched a turnip. There were migrant workers who came into town for the harvest that did all the work with the turnips. Peaper Brothers had a large building behind the greenhouses where the turnips were processed - washed, sized and bagged. It was a cold storage warehouse which had a full court basketball court (remember, this is Indiana.) When we were on break from working in the greenhouses we often went down to the plant and played basketball in a 40 degree gymnasium. This was especially nice in the summer when we were sterilizing the beds in the greenhouses, which involved the use of steam with the greenhouses closed up tight. We would often play with the migrant kids after work in the evenings. This was back in the day when you could pretty much run amok well into the evening without the folks getting all worked up about your safety. Ahh, those were the days Dan On Aug 8, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Did you fall off a turnip truck? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I fought... now SCHWINN BIKES
I had a 1962 or so Schwinn Jaguar, which had a 2 speed rear hub and a front shock absorber, in gold, whitewall tires. It weighed about 80lb. My dad kept it, was in the barn, in near perfect condition. I got down to the farm to clean stuff out, was looking forward to reclaiming it. I was walking around and saw a piece of a broken Schwinn logo on the ground pressed under some tire tracks. Ohsh*t. I went down to the barn and lo it was gone, lock broken on the bin, along with my mother's green Schwinn cruiser of maybe 1968, also in perfect condition. I learned from the neighbor farmer my dumbass criminal cousin had been there just a couple hours earlier, he had seen him and one of his boys driving my dad's little JD diesel tractor around at 6AM. He stopped and made them put the tractor back, noticed he had a couple of jet skis on a trailer, which were supposedly his (I believe he had stolen them some years before and had them stored in my dad's barn). He also noticed the doors to the other barn were open, told him to close up and get out of there. I rang him up and asked him about all that, he said he had not seen any bicycles but he was pulling the trailer with an old Suburban, I presume he had them stuffed in the back along with some other things. He had stopped by to see his mother, my auntie whom I really like, so I asked her if she had seen my bicycles, she said no but she had covered for him in the past as a mother does. I asked him about the tractor, he said his boy wanted to try it out (at 6AM!) so they just started it up and he was driving it around. I knew the battery was dead on the tractor, took some effort to get it going, so that was a lie too -- they were trying to steal it, go stash it in the woods somewhere and come back later to get it and take it to his buddy's place which was a few miles away. A coupla years earlier my dad's JD Gator, tools, air compressor, etc. were stolen from the garage. The cousin had borrowed my dad's trailer, which I had left in the barn, to go do something at that buddy's. At that time I told his mother, my aunt, I needed the trailer back, she knew where it was so I said I was going to go get it. Her boyfriend said no he would go get it and bring it back. I figured he had used it to steal the stuff, taken it to his bud's, and they were going to sell it all or something. The auntie's BF did not want me going there and finding the Gator, things might have transpired. I was tempted to go down there anyway but figured firearms might become involved, and I did not have any with me, so let it go. I tried to get the Sheriff to do something, but they said without any proof they couldn't just go on the guy's property. Some year or two later the cousin ended up spending a year or so in prison for burglary, theft, or something. I think the local poleeces where he lived finally got tired of his behavior and just rounded him up on various things. I had found silver, a big TV, and various other things in auntie's basement, she said it was his stuff, he was moving. I figured he stashed stuff there. A coupla years before that he got arrested for trying to smuggle some dope into jail for one of his buds, he had it stuffed in his buttcrack. Anyway, I still wish I had that bike, I loved it when I was a kid, it was my first big bike and I rode it everywhere. The cousin appears to have cleaned up his act, but he still owes my dad for his thieving. --R On 8/8/13 6:26 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: ...but still have my Schwinn 10spd in the garage I bought in high school, trading in my Stingray i outgrew, which would be worth a fortune today. I used to assemble Stingray bikes at the Schwinn shop. And, I still ride my 1938 rear drop-out New Departure Chicago Schwinn balloon tire bicycle - maybe it's also work a fortune today... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 45 Years - WAS 44 years OT
hey Randy! A late congrats to you and your lovely bride! My wife I celebrated our 45th anniversary last Monday. It was Aug 6 1968 - I was 18 and she was 17 -- when I looked at my kids when they were that age I thought, there is now way they could have done what we did! Even so, we were just kids growing up together. Looking forward to another 45 years together... LarryT 91 300D On 6/6/2013 12:10 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: My good wife and I are celebrating the 44th anniversary of our first date today. June 6, 1969. Going to go out for dinner somewhere. Not sure where yet. Probably some place with a good steak. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
IIRC when Ford first decided to test market diesel pickups, they bought (1000?) engines from IH. Those pickups sold out rapidly. Then they contractes with IH to supply engines. Then they leased the rights to manufacture them. The IH engines were bullet proof. When Ford started making them, the engines were not and they've had various problems ever since. Gerry From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com I think the new diesel engine is Ford designed and produced. Did they not have some dispute with IH and that resulted in departure from use of the IH engines? My mechanic son has done a fair amount of work on diesel pickups in the last year or two. Ford head gaskets etc. GM injectors etc. Expensive and difficult to work on. Either the Dodge with the Cummins is better or his shop does not attract them as I don't think he has done any work on motors in those trucks. The last one I recall him commenting on was suspension work. Randy Cummins has been building Diesel engines for 100 years and know how to do it. (read My Days with the Diesel by Clessie Cummins) The problem with the cummins/dogde is weight. That is a heavy sucker. IH v8 engines are good, but the inline 6 (DT466 etc.) is great. same as the 1066 through 1486 tractors. Frod did their best fro screw up the IH engine from what I've heard. I think that contributed heavily to the divorce. The frod IH was not as good as the International IH v8 Diesel engine. Frod's ol tractor division could build a Diesel, and they had automotive versions for the RTW. That was sold off and is now a part of CNH, along with Case, what is left of IH farm, and a few others. It seems like they have dropped the frod name, as the new blue tractor are New Holland I head the frod 240 and 300 gas engines were the same block as the tractor engines. I'm not sure about that, but I know the 240 block was heavy. Right now, I don't think frod or gummit motors could build a good Diesel. The isuzu in the GM stuff seems to be ok, but I'm not sure the jury is on on that yet. Isuzu pretty much ripped off the Mercedes OM engines for some models, like the thermoking. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3209/6059 - Release Date: 08/08/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won
I got the darn thing started today fished what I needed to clear to close the gate which was not much cutting at all, turned it off to Move the logs and could not get to start. Almost started the first attempt then that was it Sent from my iPhone On Aug 8, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Try pulling off the filter cover and squirting a little gas into the carb intake. That should at least tell you if it is starving for fuel. I am guessing that is the most likely cause of hard starting. Did you check to see if it has spark? Maybe a new spark plug? Small engines like this are pretty basic. Randy air, fuel and spark, assuming it has compression. of course the air/fuel ratio and spark timing are crucial. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won
Oh yea I pulled the cover and squirted a short squirt of either in the carb and it still did not start Sent from my iPhone On Aug 8, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: On my 2-cycle things I squirt in a bunch of carb cleaner to loosen up the dried gunk (which appears very rapidly) that clogs the jets. The carb cleaner will usually fire it off but you might need a couple shots. Sometimes ether but that is probably not good as there is no oil in there, but it will get it started after 2-3 times. --R On 8/8/13 11:51 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 07/08/2013 6:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So back to the say, it is a POS. I went out to start it, have not ran it in a couple days. Wore myself pulling on the damn thing, it never started. I am going to take it to their nearest service provider I guess and tell them either to fix it or shove it up their ass. Try pulling off the filter cover and squirting a little gas into the carb intake. That should at least tell you if it is starving for fuel. I am guessing that is the most likely cause of hard starting. Did you check to see if it has spark? Maybe a new spark plug? Small engines like this are pretty basic. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Oh yea I pulled the cover and squirted a short squirt of either in the carb and it still did not start Might have a weak coil that dies when hot? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
Fmiser wrote: Well, what's wrong with a late '80s GM with the Detroit 6.2L? Not as trouble free as an MB, but close. Michael wrote: Comparing to the Benz.it is WAY easier to work on Fmiser wrote: I disagree. My 123s are much less likely to have seized fasteners, has more replaceable components, and is engineered for maintenance. I think. :) Michael wrote: My truck is not badly rusted and being the OBS Chevy it is super easy and cheap to work on. It is a work truck, maintenance is easy, there is nothing in the way of anything. Took me about 3 hours to swap out the injector pump. requires almost no special tools And a similar vintage Mercedes does? Ever change a Benz injector pump? Yup. So special tools needed for that job. I think the only special tool I regularly use on my 123s is a 9/16 inch wrench I ground down so it's a bit thinner (for adjusting valves). How about a 6.2? A few wrenches for the GM, locking pins, drip tubes, etc for the MBZ. Using the air bubble method, I just used one of the existing injector lines. And on the OM616 and OM617 no pin is used. If I could find a Mercedes older than mid-1990's that could seat more than 8 people, still have interior cargo room, and pull a 9,000 lb [4,000 kg] trailer I would gladly consider replacing my Suburban. Nothing out there like your 'burban...they are awesome. Yeah - I've owned one for more than 25 years. Meanwhile, I'm on the lookout for a pickup like what Randy doesn't want. Crewcab, 4WD, manual transmission, 8ft or longer bed, single wheel 1-ton, diesel, pre-1995 preferred as this is to be for rough farm-truck duty. Mine has everything but 4wd. It is for sale. Want details? Not without four wheel drive. *smiles* -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
I am thinking about making it 4wd Haven't decided on stock Chevy or a Cummins and HP60. Mike On Aug 8, 2013 7:40 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Fmiser wrote: Well, what's wrong with a late '80s GM with the Detroit 6.2L? Not as trouble free as an MB, but close. Michael wrote: Comparing to the Benz.it is WAY easier to work on Fmiser wrote: I disagree. My 123s are much less likely to have seized fasteners, has more replaceable components, and is engineered for maintenance. I think. :) Michael wrote: My truck is not badly rusted and being the OBS Chevy it is super easy and cheap to work on. It is a work truck, maintenance is easy, there is nothing in the way of anything. Took me about 3 hours to swap out the injector pump. requires almost no special tools And a similar vintage Mercedes does? Ever change a Benz injector pump? Yup. So special tools needed for that job. I think the only special tool I regularly use on my 123s is a 9/16 inch wrench I ground down so it's a bit thinner (for adjusting valves). How about a 6.2? A few wrenches for the GM, locking pins, drip tubes, etc for the MBZ. Using the air bubble method, I just used one of the existing injector lines. And on the OM616 and OM617 no pin is used. If I could find a Mercedes older than mid-1990's that could seat more than 8 people, still have interior cargo room, and pull a 9,000 lb [4,000 kg] trailer I would gladly consider replacing my Suburban. Nothing out there like your 'burban...they are awesome. Yeah - I've owned one for more than 25 years. Meanwhile, I'm on the lookout for a pickup like what Randy doesn't want. Crewcab, 4WD, manual transmission, 8ft or longer bed, single wheel 1-ton, diesel, pre-1995 preferred as this is to be for rough farm-truck duty. Mine has everything but 4wd. It is for sale. Want details? Not without four wheel drive. *smiles* -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?
The duramax is a great engine Sent from my iPhone On Aug 8, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I think the new diesel engine is Ford designed and produced. Did they not have some dispute with IH and that resulted in departure from use of the IH engines? My mechanic son has done a fair amount of work on diesel pickups in the last year or two. Ford head gaskets etc. GM injectors etc. Expensive and difficult to work on. Either the Dodge with the Cummins is better or his shop does not attract them as I don't think he has done any work on motors in those trucks. The last one I recall him commenting on was suspension work. Randy Cummins has been building Diesel engines for 100 years and know how to do it. (read My Days with the Diesel by Clessie Cummins) The problem with the cummins/dogde is weight. That is a heavy sucker. IH v8 engines are good, but the inline 6 (DT466 etc.) is great. same as the 1066 through 1486 tractors. Frod did their best fro screw up the IH engine from what I've heard. I think that contributed heavily to the divorce. The frod IH was not as good as the International IH v8 Diesel engine. Frod's ol tractor division could build a Diesel, and they had automotive versions for the RTW. That was sold off and is now a part of CNH, along with Case, what is left of IH farm, and a few others. It seems like they have dropped the frod name, as the new blue tractor are New Holland I head the frod 240 and 300 gas engines were the same block as the tractor engines. I'm not sure about that, but I know the 240 block was heavy. Right now, I don't think frod or gummit motors could build a good Diesel. The isuzu in the GM stuff seems to be ok, but I'm not sure the jury is on on that yet. Isuzu pretty much ripped off the Mercedes OM engines for some models, like the thermoking. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won
I expect they'll just replace the carburetor unless there is significant damage to the piston/rings/cylinder. These can be rebuilt but cheaper to replace given US labor rates. Two rules for 2-cycle engines (1) don't use gas, and (2) agitate the fuel-oil mix before you fill or start the engine. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 7:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won So back to the say, it is a POS. I went out to start it, have not ran it in a couple days. Wore myself pulling on the damn thing, it never started. I am going to take it to their nearest service provider I guess and tell them either to fix it or shove it up their ass. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won
If you have tools handy when this happens, unscrew the spark plug. Is it wet or dry? If dry you are probably not getting fuel. If wet, try cleaning any carbon with a paper towel and blow dry (compressed air if available) or air dry. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 7:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won I got the darn thing started today fished what I needed to clear to close the gate which was not much cutting at all, turned it off to Move the logs and could not get to start. Almost started the first attempt then that was it Sent from my iPhone es_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 45 Years - WAS 44 years OT
Congrats to all of you - you're making me feel a lot younger - we're working on 34 years Dan On Aug 8, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Larry T wrote: hey Randy! A late congrats to you and your lovely bride! My wife I celebrated our 45th anniversary last Monday. It was Aug 6 1968 - I was 18 and she was 17 -- when I looked at my kids when they were that age I thought, there is now way they could have done what we did! Even so, we were just kids growing up together. Looking forward to another 45 years together... LarryT 91 300D On 6/6/2013 12:10 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: My good wife and I are celebrating the 44th anniversary of our first date today. June 6, 1969. Going to go out for dinner somewhere. Not sure where yet. Probably some place with a good steak. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '77 300D ACC2 widget
This link should tell you more than you ever wanted to know about the ACC II servo: http://kittrellcommunitywatch.dyndns.org/servo These things have a couple of bad flaws. First the plastic part is prone to cracking and leaking, especially with age. Second there is a seal of the shaft that controls coolant flow which will fail allowing coolant and crud to hum up the gears and electrical connections under the top cover. I don't know anyone who installed the unwired tools kit. George Murphy sells rebuilt units with a metal chamber in place of the plastic one. But, as far as I know, once they start to leak they are toast. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Tim Crone Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 2:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '77 300D ACC2 widget On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes: What's wrong with the Unwired Tools kit, besides the fact that it's way overpriced for something that anyone with some electronics and fabrication skill should be able to cobble together out of an Arduino and some aquarium tubing? I think the Unwired kit pre-dates the availability of cheap, flexible microcontrollers like arduino. Someone with motivation could proably drastically undercut their price now. But the hard part is figuring out how all the different modes of operation work. I think there's enough documetation of the ACC online to be able to work it out, but it would take some time and tinkering. And the market for it is pretty tiny now and will only get smaller. I took this puppy apart the other night. It was shockingly corroded, and I still don't understand exactly how the vacuum part works. Not a super-complex mechanism mechanically though. (By the way, Mitch wins the first question; I was able to put a #10 in the bad slot and it is now air- and hopefully water-tight.) The main section, the big round part that is cracked, has a 9-or-10-gear reducer and a motor in it. It distance-limits the turning of the gearing with a peg through a plastic gear, and all but one of the other gears in the reducer appear to be copper. The gear farthest from the motor is in the middle, turns the fastest, and has a friction coupling to a screw-and-gasket. This last moves up and down, in conjunction with a small straw, to let more or less water from the main channel [which I assume is pass-through to the radiator] to the small channel [which I assume goes to the cabin]. I could not get a strong seal even with the screw all the way closed; so either the rubber is old or there is supposed to be a very small amount of water movement even if the AC is on. All my gears were completely frozen, both with corrosion and ancient grease. I was able to pull two locking rings off the gear assembly, and one of the gearsets pushed out the bottom. The other was stuck until I pried up the center gear, which sits on a friction ring, then I could knock the remaining gears out. The casing is a pair of flat metal pieces that screw together, functional but again not complex. The motor has two leads. Mine are broken off, but it looks like a standard 12V motor so the pegs should be on the end somewhere. There was a capacitor (?) across the terminals, at one point, but it fell off many years ago and has too much corrosion on it for me to identify. I haven't decided if I want to try to fix the motor, I'm quite sure the alignment on this whole thing is way out of whack. At the top of the gearset there is an armature that moves back and forth between a maze of contacts. It looks like this maze determines the direction of the motor. The armature rests on a switch, and the switch has a rubber piece that has another complex maze set into it. I -think- if you pull a vacuum on a certain part of this maze from above, the armature is supposed to turn into place and set the appropriate voltage for the motor. If you pull too hard (or maybe stop pulling?) then the switch will lift, and that cuts off power to the motor. There are still some unexplained things - there is a vacuum port on the bottom of the controller that doesn't seem to do anything, but has a nice gasket embedded in the plastic. I still don't understand why there are so many vacuum points in the main connection. I have no idea how the AC is triggered. There's a spring inside the big channel that I can't explain. Probably some other stuff. I didn't find as much vacuum stuff as I was expecting; there was a bank of right-angle connectors, but that's all I came across. It may be there is some channel thing between those and the armature that I haven't figured out how to open, yet. Unfortunately while I was taking pictures my phone got full, so I don't have many. As I go through to grease, solder, and close it up I will try to get more, in case someone else wants to try it some day.
Re: [MBZ] ACA
Craig wrote: Not so, refuse2enroll.com Positively!! But, that makes us outlaws. The law demands that we enroll. ...hmmm... sounds like more biz for private prisons... perhaps... They gotta punish outlaws, no? Or, do outlaws get the dealth panel? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
