Re: [MBZ] Gotta Love that Corinthian Leather!
AND it has "surprising affordability" On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 8:52 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://youtu.be/jA8zLjGorW8 > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 5, 2022, at 7:39 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Correct. Sorry, Ricardo. > > > > Never seen a red one. My Dad’s was Silver with a maroon interior and > landau top. This one is kind of gaudy. > > > > -D > > > >> On Dec 5, 2022, at 8:33 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> RICH Corinthian Leather > >> > >> —FT > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > On Dec 5, 2022, at 7:31 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/saint-petersburg-1979-chrysler-cordoba/7564789794.html > >>> > >>> -D > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta Love that Corinthian Leather!
https://youtu.be/jA8zLjGorW8 Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 5, 2022, at 7:39 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Correct. Sorry, Ricardo. > > Never seen a red one. My Dad’s was Silver with a maroon interior and landau > top. This one is kind of gaudy. > > -D > >> On Dec 5, 2022, at 8:33 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> RICH Corinthian Leather >> >> —FT >> >> Sent from my iPad >> On Dec 5, 2022, at 7:31 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/saint-petersburg-1979-chrysler-cordoba/7564789794.html >>> >>> -D >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta Love that Corinthian Leather!
Correct. Sorry, Ricardo. Never seen a red one. My Dad’s was Silver with a maroon interior and landau top. This one is kind of gaudy. -D > On Dec 5, 2022, at 8:33 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > RICH Corinthian Leather > > —FT > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 5, 2022, at 7:31 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/saint-petersburg-1979-chrysler-cordoba/7564789794.html >> >> -D >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta Love that Corinthian Leather!
RICH Corinthian Leather —FT Sent from my iPad > On Dec 5, 2022, at 7:31 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/saint-petersburg-1979-chrysler-cordoba/7564789794.html > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gotta Love that Corinthian Leather!
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[MBZ] Gotta love Advance Auto
I ordered online a Mann oil filter for the ML500, $15. I had a $5 speedperks coupon and used tavarish25 discount code, knocked the price to $7.50. I’ll go pick it up later -FT Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB -- $900E500
I just put it on the flatbed. Took all of 5min since he drove it up, then tied it down and was off on his adventure. The driver might not have been old enough to drink a fotie --FT On 4/11/21 7:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Be sure to offer the tow truck driver a malt likker as a sign of gratitude. On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 6:41 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Of course you cheap b@st@rds will want to chisel on me... Yep. Mentally preparing a low ball offer already. Money talks, BS walks. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB -- $900E500
Be sure to offer the tow truck driver a malt likker as a sign of gratitude. On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 6:41 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Of course you cheap b@st@rds will want to > chisel on me... > > Yep. > Mentally preparing a low ball offer already. > > Money talks, BS walks. > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB -- $900E500
> Of course you cheap b@st@rds will want to chisel on me... Yep. Mentally preparing a low ball offer already. Money talks, BS walks. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gotta love MB -- $900E500
I called MB roadside assistance to organize a time for a truck to come collect the $900E500 to deal with the SBC pressure reservoir problem that I think is throwing it into limp mode. Guy was very nice, says a tow truck would be here in 90min. Woman calls me from the tow company about 5min later, we organize the pickup to take to the stealer. I presume this will cost me nothing. I was just going to say sometime the next coupla days would be fine, no rush, but it works out great. I wrote up a page detailing the codes the car is throwing (only a few, 2 for the airmatic, and of course the trans and SBC, and one is some weird thing I am not sure what it means, synchronization of DTC memory -- might be related to the limp mode issue) and told them only to deal with the SBC issue which I think is causing the limp mode, as one trans code is for the brake control solenoid valve on the conductor plate/TCM. The limp mode is intermittent, and the trans works fine when it works. So anyway the tow truck will be here in an hour or so, I'll meet it up at the road to load the car up. I washed it a little while ago, other than being dirty carpets inside, it is a really nice car, 154kmi. Body and paint are very good, a coupla minor scratches and one little dent on lower driver door that I just noticed today, someone probably kicked the door closed. Once it is fixed, and I attend to an Airmatic valve issue, I should get it detailed and flip it fast before something else kakks. I could probably get $4k or more for it judging by what I am seeing these things listed for. Of course you cheap b@st@rds will want to chisel on me... -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love it!
There are so many reasons not to watch the NFL but this is probably the silliest. On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://www.irishcentral.com/news/irishvoice/nfl-banned-in-n > y-irish-bar-after-national-anthem-protest-business-booms? > > That is one way to boost business/income! > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gotta love it!
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Re: [MBZ] Gotta Love Those Cheap Fixes...
The R129 seems very similar in size to the W124, although being a roadster you sit closer to the ground. Getting in and out can be a real b*tch, but then again, getting out of the S500 isn't easy, either. You're just higher up. The cabin is understandably smaller than the W140 as well. I drove it a bit this morning since I fixed the MAP sensor line and it didn't throw any codes, so it looks like that is fixed, at least until I can get some hard vacuum line from the dealer. Did a little bit of Martha'ing today on it, including a wash. I want to polish and wax it, but not until I have the top off, as there are areas I would miss otherwise. Also, I need to replace the headliner ASAP. The remnants of the foam/glue tend to get in one's hair if you move up and come in contact with it, as my oldest son and I discovered yesterday on a drive to our local Ace Hardware. Got the headliner material at JoAnn Fabrics yesterday along with the glue. Under $50 for everything. Got the new remote synched, although it appears that the driver and trunk IR receivers are not functioning. I tried resetting the system without any change. Works from the passenger side. I've seen some weirdness from what I believe is the security system. If anyone reads this and has ideas, I'm all ears - I have noticed on a couple of occasions when I shut off and lock the car that the driving light on the driver's side (passenger side lamp is out) and the turn signal lights all sit there and flash. They must stop at some point, as they won't be doing it when I check on the car later. When I was out this morning, I noticed in the reflection of the vehicle in front of me that the same lights were flashing again, only this time while I'm driving. When I got to my destination and shut the car off, they stopped. ??? Last but not least, while doing a topside inspection I found a four pin connector behind the driver's side headlight hanging next to its mate, unplugged. Plugged it in an immediately got douched by the headlight wipers. Guess they're not working. Darn. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: I think you will like it --- I'm quite fond of the W124 chassis, much more responsive than the W126, although for a long highway trip nothing beats a W126. How similar to the W124 is the R129? On the drive home, Dan reported it disappointingly less luxurious and more sporty than his W140, which I suspect could be said of his son's W124 also. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta Love Those Cheap Fixes...
Did Bruno Sacco also design the 129? I am wondering since the similarities to the 124 have been mentioned here. On Dec 28, 2013 4:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: The R129 seems very similar in size to the W124, although being a roadster you sit closer to the ground. Getting in and out can be a real b*tch, but then again, getting out of the S500 isn't easy, either. You're just higher up. The cabin is understandably smaller than the W140 as well. I drove it a bit this morning since I fixed the MAP sensor line and it didn't throw any codes, so it looks like that is fixed, at least until I can get some hard vacuum line from the dealer. Did a little bit of Martha'ing today on it, including a wash. I want to polish and wax it, but not until I have the top off, as there are areas I would miss otherwise. Also, I need to replace the headliner ASAP. The remnants of the foam/glue tend to get in one's hair if you move up and come in contact with it, as my oldest son and I discovered yesterday on a drive to our local Ace Hardware. Got the headliner material at JoAnn Fabrics yesterday along with the glue. Under $50 for everything. Got the new remote synched, although it appears that the driver and trunk IR receivers are not functioning. I tried resetting the system without any change. Works from the passenger side. I've seen some weirdness from what I believe is the security system. If anyone reads this and has ideas, I'm all ears - I have noticed on a couple of occasions when I shut off and lock the car that the driving light on the driver's side (passenger side lamp is out) and the turn signal lights all sit there and flash. They must stop at some point, as they won't be doing it when I check on the car later. When I was out this morning, I noticed in the reflection of the vehicle in front of me that the same lights were flashing again, only this time while I'm driving. When I got to my destination and shut the car off, they stopped. ??? Last but not least, while doing a topside inspection I found a four pin connector behind the driver's side headlight hanging next to its mate, unplugged. Plugged it in an immediately got douched by the headlight wipers. Guess they're not working. Darn. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: I think you will like it --- I'm quite fond of the W124 chassis, much more responsive than the W126, although for a long highway trip nothing beats a W126. How similar to the W124 is the R129? On the drive home, Dan reported it disappointingly less luxurious and more sporty than his W140, which I suspect could be said of his son's W124 also. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta Love Those Cheap Fixes...
Dan, I loved your rendition of I wonder what happens if I do this. Technology is wonderful except when it has a mind of its own. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.comwrote: Did Bruno Sacco also design the 129? I am wondering since the similarities to the 124 have been mentioned here. On Dec 28, 2013 4:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: The R129 seems very similar in size to the W124, although being a roadster you sit closer to the ground. Getting in and out can be a real b*tch, but then again, getting out of the S500 isn't easy, either. You're just higher up. The cabin is understandably smaller than the W140 as well. I drove it a bit this morning since I fixed the MAP sensor line and it didn't throw any codes, so it looks like that is fixed, at least until I can get some hard vacuum line from the dealer. Did a little bit of Martha'ing today on it, including a wash. I want to polish and wax it, but not until I have the top off, as there are areas I would miss otherwise. Also, I need to replace the headliner ASAP. The remnants of the foam/glue tend to get in one's hair if you move up and come in contact with it, as my oldest son and I discovered yesterday on a drive to our local Ace Hardware. Got the headliner material at JoAnn Fabrics yesterday along with the glue. Under $50 for everything. Got the new remote synched, although it appears that the driver and trunk IR receivers are not functioning. I tried resetting the system without any change. Works from the passenger side. I've seen some weirdness from what I believe is the security system. If anyone reads this and has ideas, I'm all ears - I have noticed on a couple of occasions when I shut off and lock the car that the driving light on the driver's side (passenger side lamp is out) and the turn signal lights all sit there and flash. They must stop at some point, as they won't be doing it when I check on the car later. When I was out this morning, I noticed in the reflection of the vehicle in front of me that the same lights were flashing again, only this time while I'm driving. When I got to my destination and shut the car off, they stopped. ??? Last but not least, while doing a topside inspection I found a four pin connector behind the driver's side headlight hanging next to its mate, unplugged. Plugged it in an immediately got douched by the headlight wipers. Guess they're not working. Darn. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: I think you will like it --- I'm quite fond of the W124 chassis, much more responsive than the W126, although for a long highway trip nothing beats a W126. How similar to the W124 is the R129? On the drive home, Dan reported it disappointingly less luxurious and more sporty than his W140, which I suspect could be said of his son's W124 also. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta Love Those Cheap Fixes...
'Sounds like ATTABOYS acomin'. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta Love Those Cheap Fixes... The R129 seems very similar in size to the W124, although being a roadster you sit closer to the ground. Getting in and out can be a real b*tch, but then again, getting out of the S500 isn't easy, either. You're just higher up. The cabin is understandably smaller than the W140 as well. I drove it a bit this morning since I fixed the MAP sensor line and it didn't throw any codes, so it looks like that is fixed, at least until I can get some hard vacuum line from the dealer. Did a little bit of Martha'ing today on it, including a wash. I want to polish and wax it, but not until I have the top off, as there are areas I would miss otherwise. Also, I need to replace the headliner ASAP. The remnants of the foam/glue tend to get in one's hair if you move up and come in contact with it, as my oldest son and I discovered yesterday on a drive to our local Ace Hardware. Got the headliner material at JoAnn Fabrics yesterday along with the glue. Under $50 for everything. Got the new remote synched, although it appears that the driver and trunk IR receivers are not functioning. I tried resetting the system without any change. Works from the passenger side. I've seen some weirdness from what I believe is the security system. If anyone reads this and has ideas, I'm all ears - I have noticed on a couple of occasions when I shut off and lock the car that the driving light on the driver's side (passenger side lamp is out) and the turn signal lights all sit there and flash. They must stop at some point, as they won't be doing it when I check on the car later. When I was out this morning, I noticed in the reflection of the vehicle in front of me that the same lights were flashing again, only this time while I'm driving. When I got to my destination and shut the car off, they stopped. ??? Last but not least, while doing a topside inspection I found a four pin connector behind the driver's side headlight hanging next to its mate, unplugged. Plugged it in an immediately got douched by the headlight wipers. Guess they're not working. Darn. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: I think you will like it --- I'm quite fond of the W124 chassis, much more responsive than the W126, although for a long highway trip nothing beats a W126. How similar to the W124 is the R129? On the drive home, Dan reported it disappointingly less luxurious and more sporty than his W140, which I suspect could be said of his son's W124 also. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta Love Those Cheap Fixes...
On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 16:19:39 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I've seen some weirdness from what I believe is the security system. If anyone reads this and has ideas, I'm all ears - I have noticed on a couple of occasions when I shut off and lock the car that the driving light on the driver's side (passenger side lamp is out) and the turn signal lights all sit there and flash. They must stop at some point, as they won't be doing it when I check on the car later. If it's like the W124, the flashing lights are a symptom that the alarm system has been triggered and that the alarm horn isn't working. When I was out this morning, I noticed in the reflection of the vehicle in front of me that the same lights were flashing again, only this time while I'm driving. When I got to my destination and shut the car off, they stopped. Yes, that's wierd. Last but not least, while doing a topside inspection I found a four pin connector behind the driver's side headlight hanging next to its mate, unplugged. Plugged it in an immediately got douched by the headlight wipers. Guess they're not working. Darn. What do you mean by, immediately got douched by the headlight wipers? That you got sprayed with washer fluid, or that they started running right away? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta Love Those Cheap Fixes...
On Dec 28, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Craig wrote: If it's like the W124, the flashing lights are a symptom that the alarm system has been triggered and that the alarm horn isn't working. I have some familiarity with the W124 and W126 alarm systems, which is why I figured this was the source of the lights flashing. What do you mean by, immediately got douched by the headlight wipers? That you got sprayed with washer fluid, or that they started running right away? Both. I know the headlight wiper system pretty well. The wiper motor units are unique, that is, there is a very distinct difference between the left and right unit. The left (driver's side) unit actually controls the whole system with a geartrain and a series of microswitches that control parking and operation of the pump from the wiper reservoir. Most likely the driver's side unit is goofed up somehow, which by powering it up the wipers not only operated, the pump was energized and wiper fluid was discharged at a rather high rate This will be a project or a slow day, for sure. Sorting out the wiper mechanism that controls everything is a bit of a puzzle, but I've done it before. It's very possible that the unit is toast. After dinner I'm pulling the driver's door panel to find out why some of the speakers are dead. I'm hoping it's nothing more than the connector being disconnected. I hope Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta Love Those Cheap Fixes...
On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 18:33:28 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: After dinner I'm pulling the driver's door panel to find out why some of the speakers are dead. I'm hoping it's nothing more than the connector being disconnected. I hope May it be as simple as that, and may the door panel clips not break. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta Love Those Cheap Fixes...
IIRC, the 129 is built on the 124 chassis, with added extras. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.comwrote: Did Bruno Sacco also design the 129? I am wondering since the similarities to the 124 have been mentioned here. On Dec 28, 2013 4:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I washed the C182A this afternoon after my cheap fix didn't work. The charging system stopped working about 10 minutes from home on the last flight. I've been thinking the voltage regulator was flaky for a while now and had a spare one on hand. I installed the new VR and still no joy. No charging at all. So, the generator is next - I have a line on a cheap used one, hopefully it will show up tomorrow. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Did a little bit of Martha'ing today on it, including a wash. I want to polish and wax it, but not until I have the top off, as there are areas I would miss otherwise. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It seems very 124-like. No luck on the speaker - it's open. A couple of good things, however: The speaker can be removed/installed without removing the door panel Replacements are available from BOSE for $40. I'll be putting a call in to BOSE first thing Monday morning Dan On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:48 PM, OK Don wrote: IIRC, the 129 is built on the 124 chassis, with added extras. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.comwrote: Did Bruno Sacco also design the 129? I am wondering since the similarities to the 124 have been mentioned here. On Dec 28, 2013 4:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Makes sense. On Dec 28, 2013 7:48 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, the 129 is built on the 124 chassis, with added extras. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Did Bruno Sacco also design the 129? I am wondering since the similarities to the 124 have been mentioned here. On Dec 28, 2013 4:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 18:52:56 -0600 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I washed the C182A this afternoon after my cheap fix didn't work. The charging system stopped working about 10 minutes from home on the last flight. I've been thinking the voltage regulator was flaky for a while now and had a spare one on hand. I installed the new VR and still no joy. No charging at all. So, the generator is next - I have a line on a cheap used one, hopefully it will show up tomorrow. I suppose parts for a Cessna 182A are somewhat more expensive than those for old Mercedes. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It depends on where/how you source them. Yes, they can be rather expensive. A kit to convert from the original generator system to a new alternator is $800. I think the used but was working when removed generator will be less than 1/10th that amount (this time). One difference that accounts for some of the cost difference is that it is theoretically possible to trace every bit of every part back to the source. Grant can correct me if I'm wrong, I think he used to deal in aircraft parts. The massive FAA approval process accounts for a lot of the other cost differences as well. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 18:52:56 -0600 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose parts for a Cessna 182A are somewhat more expensive than those for old Mercedes. Craig -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 21:48:09 -0600 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: One difference that accounts for some of the cost difference is that it is theoretically possible to trace every bit of every part back to the source. Grant can correct me if I'm wrong, I think he used to deal in aircraft parts. The massive FAA approval process accounts for a lot of the other cost differences as well. Sounds like the process for parts for a nuclear facility that handles Category I amounts of materials. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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And liability/insurance costs plus overhead spread over very low volume, at least compared to cars. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 10:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta Love Those Cheap Fixes... It depends on where/how you source them. Yes, they can be rather expensive. A kit to convert from the original generator system to a new alternator is $800. I think the used but was working when removed generator will be less than 1/10th that amount (this time). One difference that accounts for some of the cost difference is that it is theoretically possible to trace every bit of every part back to the source. Grant can correct me if I'm wrong, I think he used to deal in aircraft parts. The massive FAA approval process accounts for a lot of the other cost differences as well. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 18:52:56 -0600 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose parts for a Cessna 182A are somewhat more expensive than those for old Mercedes. Craig -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gotta Love Those Cheap Fixes...
As I go over the SL500 in detail, I have already fixed a couple of issues for - nothing! Woo-hoo! I love it when this sort of thing happens I changed the oil and filter this afternoon, which immediately quieted down the lifter tick from the right cylinder bank. For that matter, it's gone - it might have been gone before I changed the oil, I'm not sure. I suspect it was just because the car hasn't been driven much over the past few years. I'm wondering if an Italian tune-up might be in order??? The CEL was on when I inspected the car, and the codes that my OBDII scanner picked up were a MAP sensor and O2 sensor. I figured the MAP just needed cleaning, so while the oil was draining I removed it from the engine and the hard white plastic tubing from the manifold was - you guessed it - broken! I got a piece of wire and snaked it back through the engine valley where the line had been, then pieced the line back together with a few short pieces of rubber tubing. I haven't driven the car much since, but the code has not returned. Another item for my dealer visit on Monday. While I was under the car I did a pretty detailed inspection. Nice to see the belly pans were intact and very clean. I can see where the front end was repaired - the cross member that is behind the front bumper has been cut off and a new one welded in. Not very well, at least the welds look kind of lousy, but it's definitely attached and intact. Everything from the radiator support back is or appears to be either new or original. No leaks, damage, bad lines, etc. were noted during he inspection. I was surprised to note that the front suspension on this car is a strut arrangement with a separate spring rather than a shock absorber and a spring. Looks like the bellows or dust boots on the top of the struts are missing. Hmm. The car definitely has the FSS in the instrument panel, and I figured out how to reset it. I suspect it's a dumb version in that it appear to be nothing more than a countdown timer using the odometer. I don't think there are any sensors in the oil pan, at least not that I saw. Strange, as there is no mention of it in the owner's manual. As I am beginning to understand this car is more of a W124 than a W140, I am beginning to like it more. Since I have never owned or driven an R129, I really didn't have a point of reference to work from. It's smaller, tighter, and pretty damned responsive compared to the S500, which is a tank but far more luxurious inside. Tomorrow is wash/wax/detailing day! Martha in her element! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dust boots for the struts are available separately, and should be replaced. Makes the struts live a lot longer, although depending on the milage they may already be on the way out, mine didn't make 300,000 miles. While you are looking around, check the rubber in the links in the rear suspension and for loose tie rod ends. Those cars get really squirrely when the links are worn out, and will eat tires. Any sensitivity to cross-winds on the highway, or excessive following of road surface texture indicates worn links. The bushings the rear subframe is mounted with need to be replaced about the time the links go bad, too. Check the rear differnential mounts too, they often die and make excess noise on rough pavement and thumping noises on shifts. They can be a royal pain to replace as they must be pushed out to the front and are usually severely stuck -- my indy uses an air chisel to collapse the old ones rather than try to press them out. New ones go in from the front, they are tapered and only fit one way. I think you will like it --- I'm quite fond of the W124 chassis, much more responsive than the W126, although for a long highway trip nothing beats a W126. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Lucky you! My brake thing is even more puzzling. When I got to the LF side, the pads would not push in either until I opened the bleeder. Since I can't find any info about troubleshooting the ABS, I am going to put everything back togehter and try flushing and replacing the brake fluid. I doubt that will cure anything, but now rotors and pads can't hurt. Then there is the weird uneven idle, intermittent tach and flashing interior lights in time with the idle speed going up or down. I am ready for simple cheap and easy fixes. As I go over the SL500 in detail, I have already fixed a couple of issues for - nothing! Woo-hoo! I love it when this sort of thing happens I changed the oil and filter this afternoon, which immediately quieted down the lifter tick from the right cylinder bank. For that matter, it's gone - it might have been gone before I changed the oil, I'm not sure. I suspect it was just because the car hasn't been driven much over the past few years. I'm wondering if an Italian tune-up might be in order??? The CEL was on when I inspected the car, and the codes that my OBDII scanner picked up were a MAP sensor and O2 sensor. I figured the MAP just needed cleaning, so while the oil was draining I removed it from the engine and the hard white plastic tubing from the manifold was - you guessed it - broken! I got a piece of wire and snaked it back through the engine valley where the line had been, then pieced the line back together with a few short pieces of rubber tubing. I haven't driven the car much since, but the code has not returned. Another item for my dealer visit on Monday. While I was under the car I did a pretty detailed inspection. Nice to see the belly pans were intact and very clean. I can see where the front end was repaired - the cross member that is behind the front bumper has been cut off and a new one welded in. Not very well, at least the welds look kind of lousy, but it's definitely attached and intact. Everything from the radiator support back is or appears to be either new or original. No leaks, damage, bad lines, etc. were noted during he inspection. I was surprised to note that the front suspension on this car is a strut arrangement with a separate spring rather than a shock absorber and a spring. Looks like the bellows or dust boots on the top of the struts are missing. Hmm. The car definitely has the FSS in the instrument panel, and I figured out how to reset it. I suspect it's a dumb version in that it appear to be nothing more than a countdown timer using the odometer. I don't think there are any sensors in the oil pan, at least not that I saw. Strange, as there is no mention of it in the owner's manual. As I am beginning to understand this car is more of a W124 than a W140, I am beginning to like it more. Since I have never owned or driven an R129, I really didn't have a point of reference to work from. It's smaller, tighter, and pretty damned responsive compared to the S500, which is a tank but far more luxurious inside. Tomorrow is wash/wax/detailing day! Martha in her element! Dan ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So you replaced the brake hoses? Right? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 27, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Lucky you! My brake thing is even more puzzling. When I got to the LF side, the pads would not push in either until I opened the bleeder. Since I can't find any info about troubleshooting the ABS, I am going to put everything back togehter and try flushing and replacing the brake fluid. I doubt that will cure anything, but now rotors and pads can't hurt. Then there is the weird uneven idle, intermittent tach and flashing interior lights in time with the idle speed going up or down. I am ready for simple cheap and easy fixes. As I go over the SL500 in detail, I have already fixed a couple of issues for - nothing! Woo-hoo! I love it when this sort of thing happens I changed the oil and filter this afternoon, which immediately quieted down the lifter tick from the right cylinder bank. For that matter, it's gone - it might have been gone before I changed the oil, I'm not sure. I suspect it was just because the car hasn't been driven much over the past few years. I'm wondering if an Italian tune-up might be in order??? The CEL was on when I inspected the car, and the codes that my OBDII scanner picked up were a MAP sensor and O2 sensor. I figured the MAP just needed cleaning, so while the oil was draining I removed it from the engine and the hard white plastic tubing from the manifold was - you guessed it - broken! I got a piece of wire and snaked it back through the engine valley where the line had been, then pieced the line back together with a few short pieces of rubber tubing. I haven't driven the car much since, but the code has not returned. Another item for my dealer visit on Monday. While I was under the car I did a pretty detailed inspection. Nice to see the belly pans were intact and very clean. I can see where the front end was repaired - the cross member that is behind the front bumper has been cut off and a new one welded in. Not very well, at least the welds look kind of lousy, but it's definitely attached and intact. Everything from the radiator support back is or appears to be either new or original. No leaks, damage, bad lines, etc. were noted during he inspection. I was surprised to note that the front suspension on this car is a strut arrangement with a separate spring rather than a shock absorber and a spring. Looks like the bellows or dust boots on the top of the struts are missing. Hmm. The car definitely has the FSS in the instrument panel, and I figured out how to reset it. I suspect it's a dumb version in that it appear to be nothing more than a countdown timer using the odometer. I don't think there are any sensors in the oil pan, at least not that I saw. Strange, as there is no mention of it in the owner's manual. As I am beginning to understand this car is more of a W124 than a W140, I am beginning to like it more. Since I have never owned or driven an R129, I really didn't have a point of reference to work from. It's smaller, tighter, and pretty damned responsive compared to the S500, which is a tank but far more luxurious inside. Tomorrow is wash/wax/detailing day! Martha in her element! Dan ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dan Penoff wrote: I can see where the front end was repaired - the cross member that is behind the front bumper has been cut off and a new one welded in. Not very well, at least the welds look kind of lousy, but it's definitely attached and intact. Everything from the radiator support back is or appears to be either new or original. Wasn't the body/frame work supposed to be a MB dealer job? The car definitely has the FSS in the instrument panel, and I figured out how to reset it. I suspect it's a dumb version in that it appear to be nothing more than a countdown timer... My 1999 S210's FSS didn't seem to be F at first, and somebody, I think it was Woger (RIP), told me it wasn't, but over time it proved to be flexible. It changed from 10k to 9900 after 100 miles, but after 2000 miles, it read more than 8000 left. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Peter Frederick wrote: I think you will like it --- I'm quite fond of the W124 chassis, much more responsive than the W126, although for a long highway trip nothing beats a W126. How similar to the W124 is the R129? On the drive home, Dan reported it disappointingly less luxurious and more sporty than his W140, which I suspect could be said of his son's W124 also. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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no, I intended to, but when i take the hoses off, they are not very old and pass air or fluid both ways. check valve action seems to be in the ABS or master cyl. Seems to be a known mode of failure for ABS. (according to a paper from a Bosch guy and a U of Munich guy.) So you replaced the brake hoses? Right? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 27, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Lucky you! My brake thing is even more puzzling. When I got to the LF side, the pads would not push in either until I opened the bleeder. Since I can't find any info about troubleshooting the ABS, I am going to put everything back togehter and try flushing and replacing the brake fluid. I doubt that will cure anything, but now rotors and pads can't hurt. Then there is the weird uneven idle, intermittent tach and flashing interior lights in time with the idle speed going up or down. I am ready for simple cheap and easy fixes. As I go over the SL500 in detail, I have already fixed a couple of issues for - nothing! Woo-hoo! I love it when this sort of thing happens ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It seems than at Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:17:12 -0500, Timothy wrote: I'm not knocking power seats (and of course now it's a must have to compete in the American market) but geez, I buy a car (used or new) and I adjust it once? I'm not the only one that drives my cars. And it seems that everyone has a different requirement for the position of the seat. I can see the motivation for power adjust, memory seats. _I_ don't want one 'cause I don't want to have to fix it!! I like the spring, roller, and lever that my W123s use! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That must be why she shrieks like she does? --R Hendrik Fay wrote: He never drove it himself and it scared the crap out of Yoko..good. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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E M wrote: When I do take the cars in for service, and leave them on the lot, I tape a large note right on the steering wheel, DON'T adjust the seats, or move the mirrors They don't have to move the seat, they're only driving 50 feet from the lot to the service bay. That doesn't work too well with me I'm shorter than most of the mechanics out there at 5'7. So if I want them to drive it at all they have to move it. It does kind of irk me when they leave it so far back I can't touch the pedals though. At least bring it a little closer!! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Lets see JR started out with a 116, then had a 126 which sometimes appeared as a 380SEL, and sometimes I saw it as a 300SD. Bobby for most of the show had a red 107, which started out as a 450SL, then a 380SL. I THINK around the time that Pam died or whatever happened to her It was a 560, but I think it was a black one but cant remember. I do know he also has some other convertible too. Back to JR, for a little bit he had a later model 126 but then switched to a Cadillac. I have seen the Jock big ol lincoln in person when I visited the ranch a while back. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Perhaps it was that JR Ewing drove one on Dallas? Of course, Jock also drove a big ole Lincoln and so did Ray Crebbs wife Donna. But, you are right. I wanted a Mercedes when I saw JR had one. JR was the bad guy, but I always liked JR. Now, when Sue Ellen went from the big Ford Country Squire Wagon to a 123 Diesel Wagon, soccer moms nationwide wanted a MB wagon. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have a friend with a Honda Civic, and I have to be careful not to hit her in the forehead with my elbow when she walks by me. I can back her car out of the driveway without touching the seat. My knees touch my chin as she likes the seat pulled WAY forward. It's a stick too. For the distance these guys are driving, they can leave the seat all way forwarded, even if they're a over 6'. Ed 300E On 19/12/2007, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: E M wrote: When I do take the cars in for service, and leave them on the lot, I tape a large note right on the steering wheel, DON'T adjust the seats, or move the mirrors They don't have to move the seat, they're only driving 50 feet from the lot to the service bay. That doesn't work too well with me I'm shorter than most of the mechanics out there at 5'7. So if I want them to drive it at all they have to move it. It does kind of irk me when they leave it so far back I can't touch the pedals though. At least bring it a little closer!! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That 116 was a 450SEL. He had an Allante by 91 --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB hmm I forgot about Sue Ellen's Country Squire. I liked the Mark V (EWING-1) Jock drove. (Lincoln Marks III - V were favorites until my '78 lemon TownCar experience. When bodies changed in '80 I quit Lincoln (though wondered once if a 5 cyl. 3L work in my old Mark III. The 70's were tough on a kid who only got 8 mpg.)) BUT... the thing I remember most was how everyone seemed to want to replace their painted hub caps with Bundts when JR rolled out the light greem MB (EWING - 3) ...wasn't it a 280SE? I only watched the first years. When I lost interest I think J.R. was driving a W126 about 1981? Heck, in 13/14 seasons, I have no idea what JR was driving by 1991? Let's see.. I was never interested in Corvettes, SLs nor 911s so I paid little attention to Bobby and Pam's vehicles. I do feature that they had an impact in the 450SL because every budding socialite seemed to covet one. Too bad more people didn't watch Dynasty. We might see more examples of the 600 Pullman floating around? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That 116 was a 450SEL. He had an Allante by 91 I looked at one once. I have no idea how they were able to put it up as competition to the 107 SL. Interior by GM, and front wheel drive too. I guess it didn't look too bad on the outside. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Usually the day I bitch about people forgetting to fuel up is the day I realize I've not been paying attention and have to make an unscheduled fuel stop. I've never run out though, touch wood. -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:22:19 +1030 From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Oooh stop your bitching people, over here you're lucky if the spare parts person will talk to you. I know the car sales people won't unless you are wearing a suit. Our main dealer used to be alright until they built a fancy new facility and now the spare parts are in there with the new cars and I think the attitude has changed a bit. Roadside assistance, yeah dream on unless you buy a new MB or pay a squillion bucks a year. Hendrik who has not been left stranded by his MB's..yet PS. perhaps if you people remember to put fuel in your cars you won't need to bother the nice roadside elves so much, this begs the question, how did you lot become a super power if the average yank can't even remember that their car runs on fuel and needs this replenished at regular intervals? One day they'll forget to fill the space shuttle. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Oh, I can see thet advantage, especially w/multiple drivers. Heck, today the memory function even recalls mirror positions and radio presets. Brings me to another thought. I'm only driver of my cars. I always thought that a vehicle got used to one owner's driving habits. Maybe it's imagination but it's something I like to believe. I love the ole guy who has done alignment for years. He always asks who is the primary driver, How much does he weigh, etc. From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 02:06:40 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB It seems than at Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:17:12 -0500, Timothy wrote: I'm not knocking power seats (and of course now it's a must have to compete in the American market) but geez, I buy a car (used or new) and I adjust it once? I'm not the only one that drives my cars. And it seems that everyone has a different requirement for the position of the seat. I can see the motivation for power adjust, memory seats. _I_ don't want one 'cause I don't want to have to fix it!! I like the spring, roller, and lever that my W123s use! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Some of the club I play (piano) have a rule that the valets are NOt to adjust seats when parking cars. It's kinda interesting to watch these 6'+ college athletes squeezing behing the wheel of some 4'5 little old lady's land yacht. From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:57:55 -0400 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB I have a friend with a Honda Civic, and I have to be careful not to hit her in the forehead with my elbow when she walks by me. I can back her car out of the driveway without touching the seat. My knees touch my chin as she likes the seat pulled WAY forward. It's a stick too. For the distance these guys are driving, they can leave the seat all way forwarded, even if they're a over 6'. Ed 300E On 19/12/2007, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: E M wrote: When I do take the cars in for service, and leave them on the lot, I tape a large note right on the steering wheel, DON'T adjust the seats, or move the mirrors They don't have to move the seat, they're only driving 50 feet from the lot to the service bay. That doesn't work too well with me I'm shorter than most of the mechanics out there at 5'7. So if I want them to drive it at all they have to move it. It does kind of irk me when they leave it so far back I can't touch the pedals though. At least bring it a little closer!! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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' You play piano? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Some of the club I play (piano) have a rule that the valets are NOt to adjust seats when parking cars. It's kinda interesting to watch these 6'+ college athletes squeezing behing the wheel of some 4'5 little old lady's land yacht. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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IIRC, the Allante was built in an odd way - chassis were built by GM in US then they were shipped to Italy to have the body fitted by one of the body guys there - Giguario perhaps? maybe Bertone? really can't recall. Talk about a quality control nightmare. Ha! What a way to build a car - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That 116 was a 450SEL. He had an Allante by 91 I looked at one once. I have no idea how they were able to put it up as competition to the 107 SL. Interior by GM, and front wheel drive too. I guess it didn't look too bad on the outside. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4 - Release Date: 12/16/2007 12:00 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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LarryT wrote: IIRC, the Allante was built in an odd way - chassis were built by GM in US then they were shipped to Italy to have the body fitted by one of the body guys there - Giguario perhaps? maybe Bertone? really can't recall. I forgot how the Chrysler/Maserati TC was built. I kind of want one of those, even though it looks a lot like my old 1987 Lebaron coupe. Whenever I see one, it's overpriced, worn out abused, or auto tranny. I want 5sp and 224 hp. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My dad was stickler about keeping the tanks full. I think it dated back to the Cold War Era when he'd receive a call at 3AM and have to head to the missile tracking facility. 24hr convenience stores with fuel pumps didn't exist then. Of course, most gas stations had attendants back then who ran out, checked the oil, cleaned the windshield and filled the tank for a few dollars (@ $0.379 ga.) If you drove a diesel you had the inconvenience of driving down to the truck route along the river to find a pump. This was the type of thing I thought of a few mornings ago when I stood at a convenience store in 16F air marvelling at four choices of diesel (Dino, B5,B20 B100) at the bright new self-pay pumps. From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:15:36 -0800 (PST) To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Usually the day I bitch about people forgetting to fuel up is the day I realize I've not been paying attention and have to make an unscheduled fuel stop. I've never run out though, touch wood. -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:22:19 +1030 From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Oooh stop your bitching people, over here you're lucky if the spare parts person will talk to you. I know the car sales people won't unless you are wearing a suit. Our main dealer used to be alright until they built a fancy new facility and now the spare parts are in there with the new cars and I think the attitude has changed a bit. Roadside assistance, yeah dream on unless you buy a new MB or pay a squillion bucks a year. Hendrik who has not been left stranded by his MB's..yet PS. perhaps if you people remember to put fuel in your cars you won't need to bother the nice roadside elves so much, this begs the question, how did you lot become a super power if the average yank can't even remember that their car runs on fuel and needs this replenished at regular intervals? One day they'll forget to fill the space shuttle. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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From the obese William Conrad as Frank Cannon (1971-1976) driving a new Lincoln Mark III-IV each season to Burt Reynolds in Smokey Anand the Bandit bringing attention to the Pontiac Trans Am Golden Eagle, I don't think even JR could promote that Allante! What were they thinking? From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:26:43 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That 116 was a 450SEL. He had an Allante by 91 I looked at one once. I have no idea how they were able to put it up as competition to the 107 SL. Interior by GM, and front wheel drive too. I guess it didn't look too bad on the outside. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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William Conrad, as in, Jake and the fatman? Same guy, right? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB From the obese William Conrad as Frank Cannon (1971-1976) driving a new Lincoln Mark III-IV each season to Burt Reynolds in Smokey Anand the Bandit bringing attention to the Pontiac Trans Am Golden Eagle, I don't think even JR could promote that Allante! What were they thinking? From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:26:43 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That 116 was a 450SEL. He had an Allante by 91 I looked at one once. I have no idea how they were able to put it up as competition to the 107 SL. Interior by GM, and front wheel drive too. I guess it didn't look too bad on the outside. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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William Conrad, as in, Jake and the fatman? Same guy, right? As in the narrator of the Moose and Squirrel show! Same guy, right. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That was major in college. Started lessons at 5. After college worked as an accompanist in NYC. I worked many years with the National Pageant System (yeah, beauty pageants) then signed with an agent in mid-80s who kept me fairly busy in hotels and clubs. Economics led to my getting electrical contractor's license about 1991 to have something to fall back on. (actually, to work like a dawg to pay tuition for and keep the love of my life in diamond sapphires. The happiest memory I have was seeing her tail lights that last time. VIXXEN!) Today I still do a few residential or commercial electrical projects, the agent of 20+ years cherry picks piano contracts for me and I spend winter months in hibernation by the fire with the dogs. I'm doing a winter interim in music at a Methodist Church where I was organist for twenty years and as music director for a Wild West theme park I'm putting together the next season's Can-Can shows. Next May I'll return as the old ragtime piano player in the Saloon. (The food outlets of that park are my supply of WVO I've mentioned.) From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:14:25 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB ' You play piano? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Some of the club I play (piano) have a rule that the valets are NOt to adjust seats when parking cars. It's kinda interesting to watch these 6'+ college athletes squeezing behing the wheel of some 4'5 little old lady's land yacht. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Cool...we are a diverse bunch. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Robinson Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:55 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That was major in college. Started lessons at 5. After college worked as an accompanist in NYC. I worked many years with the National Pageant System (yeah, beauty pageants) then signed with an agent in mid-80s who kept me fairly busy in hotels and clubs. Economics led to my getting electrical contractor's license about 1991 to have something to fall back on. (actually, to work like a dawg to pay tuition for and keep the love of my life in diamond sapphires. The happiest memory I have was seeing her tail lights that last time. VIXXEN!) Today I still do a few residential or commercial electrical projects, the agent of 20+ years cherry picks piano contracts for me and I spend winter months in hibernation by the fire with the dogs. I'm doing a winter interim in music at a Methodist Church where I was organist for twenty years and as music director for a Wild West theme park I'm putting together the next season's Can-Can shows. Next May I'll return as the old ragtime piano player in the Saloon. (The food outlets of that park are my supply of WVO I've mentioned.) From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:14:25 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB ' You play piano? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Some of the club I play (piano) have a rule that the valets are NOt to adjust seats when parking cars. It's kinda interesting to watch these 6'+ college athletes squeezing behing the wheel of some 4'5 little old lady's land yacht. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Speaking of piano music, I am a big fan of Roger Williams. He is playing one of his 12 or 14 hour marathons next year in MO. Plan on going as he is getting pretty old and probably wont be around long. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If I recall the Allante had a removable hardtop just like the SL convertibles? From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:44:09 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB IIRC, the Allante was built in an odd way - chassis were built by GM in US then they were shipped to Italy to have the body fitted by one of the body guys there - Giguario perhaps? maybe Bertone? really can't recall. Talk about a quality control nightmare. Ha! What a way to build a car - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That 116 was a 450SEL. He had an Allante by 91 I looked at one once. I have no idea how they were able to put it up as competition to the 107 SL. Interior by GM, and front wheel drive too. I guess it didn't look too bad on the outside. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4 - Release Date: 12/16/2007 12:00 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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As a 16 y/o dad discovered I had learned from Frank Cannon how to use the auxillary/emergency brake on the '69 Lincoln (it had a pedal on the left similar to the accelerator pedal with automatic release) to do a 180 turn (much to the amusement of peers). That was when I learned the cost of Michelin LR78/15 radials. From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:28:20 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB William Conrad, as in, Jake and the fatman? Same guy, right? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB From the obese William Conrad as Frank Cannon (1971-1976) driving a new Lincoln Mark III-IV each season to Burt Reynolds in Smokey Anand the Bandit bringing attention to the Pontiac Trans Am Golden Eagle, I don't think even JR could promote that Allante! What were they thinking? From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:26:43 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That 116 was a 450SEL. He had an Allante by 91 I looked at one once. I have no idea how they were able to put it up as competition to the 107 SL. Interior by GM, and front wheel drive too. I guess it didn't look too bad on the outside. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My agent booked him twenty five years ago. I remember one of his standards, Deep Purple. Some of us old pianists never die. People just wish we would! It's pretty weird when you can estimate how many times you've played Misty at about $0.83 a pop... I figured once that I've sat on a piano bench in excess of 36,000 hours in the past thirty years. That was just based on performance time, not rehearsal. It costs more to have a tuxedo cleaned today than I used to earn per night. LOL From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:07:55 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Speaking of piano music, I am a big fan of Roger Williams. He is playing one of his 12 or 14 hour marathons next year in MO. Plan on going as he is getting pretty old and probably wont be around long. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Tim R. wrote: From the obese William Conrad as Frank Cannon (1971-1976) driving a new Lincoln Mark III-IV each season to Burt Reynolds in Smokey Anand the Bandit bringing attention to the Pontiac Trans Am Golden Eagle, Oh Man! There's another car I would love to have. The bandits TA with the Crazy Chicken on the hood. I always like the 79 TA in silver. It was the 10t anniversary (or maybe the 15th) and it was such a cool car. It had the 6.6 l engine and it had the lights on the hood scoop with the fancy metal dash. If I won the lottery, I would have a strange collection of cars. Several Mercedes (including a 600 LWB), an allante, The Bandit TA, a 1970 Roadrunner with the 440 six pack and a shaker hood, maybe a V12 Jag convertible, a 66 Olds Toronado, a 1970 Chevelle Convertible with the 454 (in Black), a 1959 Cadillac, a 1957 Chrysler 300C, and of course a 1957 300SL (gullwing), and probably more I can't think of right now. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah, as with much of stuff on TV/Movies, things are not as they seem. Tires on stunt vehicles (and race cars) have metal fasteners to keep the tire bead on the rim during hard cornering. Otherwise, they roll off the rim - as you probably found out. Bummer - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB As a 16 y/o dad discovered I had learned from Frank Cannon how to use the auxillary/emergency brake on the '69 Lincoln (it had a pedal on the left similar to the accelerator pedal with automatic release) to do a 180 turn (much to the amusement of peers). That was when I learned the cost of Michelin LR78/15 radials. From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:28:20 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB William Conrad, as in, Jake and the fatman? Same guy, right? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB From the obese William Conrad as Frank Cannon (1971-1976) driving a new Lincoln Mark III-IV each season to Burt Reynolds in Smokey Anand the Bandit bringing attention to the Pontiac Trans Am Golden Eagle, I don't think even JR could promote that Allante! What were they thinking? From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:26:43 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That 116 was a 450SEL. He had an Allante by 91 I looked at one once. I have no idea how they were able to put it up as competition to the 107 SL. Interior by GM, and front wheel drive too. I guess it didn't look too bad on the outside. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1188 - Release Date: 12/17/2007 2:13 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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WHERE IS THE DIESEL CONTENT? ;) Actually, the background of the individuals comprising this imaginary community is both diverse and fascinating! On Dec 19, 2007 12:55 PM, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was major in college. Started lessons at 5. After college worked as an accompanist in NYC. I worked many years with the National Pageant System (yeah, beauty pageants) then signed with an agent in mid-80s who kept me fairly busy in hotels and clubs. Economics led to my getting electrical contractor's license about 1991 to have something to fall back on. (actually, to work like a dawg to pay tuition for and keep the love of my life in diamond sapphires. The happiest memory I have was seeing her tail lights that last time. VIXXEN!) Today I still do a few residential or commercial electrical projects, the agent of 20+ years cherry picks piano contracts for me and I spend winter months in hibernation by the fire with the dogs. I'm doing a winter interim in music at a Methodist Church where I was organist for twenty years and as music director for a Wild West theme park I'm putting together the next season's Can-Can shows. Next May I'll return as the old ragtime piano player in the Saloon. (The food outlets of that park are my supply of WVO I've mentioned.) From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:14:25 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB ' You play piano? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Some of the club I play (piano) have a rule that the valets are NOt to adjust seats when parking cars. It's kinda interesting to watch these 6'+ college athletes squeezing behing the wheel of some 4'5 little old lady's land yacht. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I found myself with a 1979 Trans Am and a '79 CJ-7 Golden Eagle (a result of unloading the '78 Lincoln)... 'cept @ 21 y/o I started collecting speeding tickets and couldn't afford the insurance on them. I could do a litany of cars, however. My first the grandparents' 1969 black Lincoln with suicide doors; a '76 VW Super Beetle, a '69 Mark III which I spent a fortune restoring, a '63 black Coupe deVille I bought from an old great aunt for $800. @ 30K miles. I'd probably buy any of them back today if I knew they'd be in as good condition as when I was stupid enough to sell them. From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:06:34 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Tim R. wrote: From the obese William Conrad as Frank Cannon (1971-1976) driving a new Lincoln Mark III-IV each season to Burt Reynolds in Smokey Anand the Bandit bringing attention to the Pontiac Trans Am Golden Eagle, Oh Man! There's another car I would love to have. The bandits TA with the Crazy Chicken on the hood. I always like the 79 TA in silver. It was the 10t anniversary (or maybe the 15th) and it was such a cool car. It had the 6.6 l engine and it had the lights on the hood scoop with the fancy metal dash. If I won the lottery, I would have a strange collection of cars. Several Mercedes (including a 600 LWB), an allante, The Bandit TA, a 1970 Roadrunner with the 440 six pack and a shaker hood, maybe a V12 Jag convertible, a 66 Olds Toronado, a 1970 Chevelle Convertible with the 454 (in Black), a 1959 Cadillac, a 1957 Chrysler 300C, and of course a 1957 300SL (gullwing), and probably more I can't think of right now. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah... my whitewalls never looked pristine like Frank Cannon's. From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:42:39 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Yeah, as with much of stuff on TV/Movies, things are not as they seem. Tires on stunt vehicles (and race cars) have metal fasteners to keep the tire bead on the rim during hard cornering. Otherwise, they roll off the rim - as you probably found out. Bummer - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB As a 16 y/o dad discovered I had learned from Frank Cannon how to use the auxillary/emergency brake on the '69 Lincoln (it had a pedal on the left similar to the accelerator pedal with automatic release) to do a 180 turn (much to the amusement of peers). That was when I learned the cost of Michelin LR78/15 radials. From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:28:20 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB William Conrad, as in, Jake and the fatman? Same guy, right? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB From the obese William Conrad as Frank Cannon (1971-1976) driving a new Lincoln Mark III-IV each season to Burt Reynolds in Smokey Anand the Bandit bringing attention to the Pontiac Trans Am Golden Eagle, I don't think even JR could promote that Allante! What were they thinking? From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:26:43 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That 116 was a 450SEL. He had an Allante by 91 I looked at one once. I have no idea how they were able to put it up as competition to the 107 SL. Interior by GM, and front wheel drive too. I guess it didn't look too bad on the outside. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1188 - Release Date: 12/17/2007 2:13 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If I recall the Allante had a removable hardtop just like the SL convertibles? Correct. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Sehr geehrter Herr Strasfogel, Ich habe Klavier für viele Leute gespielt, die Mercedes besassen. Ich sollte die Modelle eingeschlossen haben? (OK... I've played piano for lots of people who owned Mercedes. Should I have included the models? hehe) From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:17:22 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB WHERE IS THE DIESEL CONTENT? ;) Actually, the background of the individuals comprising this imaginary community is both diverse and fascinating! On Dec 19, 2007 12:55 PM, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was major in college. Started lessons at 5. After college worked as an accompanist in NYC. I worked many years with the National Pageant System (yeah, beauty pageants) then signed with an agent in mid-80s who kept me fairly busy in hotels and clubs. Economics led to my getting electrical contractor's license about 1991 to have something to fall back on. (actually, to work like a dawg to pay tuition for and keep the love of my life in diamond sapphires. The happiest memory I have was seeing her tail lights that last time. VIXXEN!) Today I still do a few residential or commercial electrical projects, the agent of 20+ years cherry picks piano contracts for me and I spend winter months in hibernation by the fire with the dogs. I'm doing a winter interim in music at a Methodist Church where I was organist for twenty years and as music director for a Wild West theme park I'm putting together the next season's Can-Can shows. Next May I'll return as the old ragtime piano player in the Saloon. (The food outlets of that park are my supply of WVO I've mentioned.) From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:14:25 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB ' You play piano? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Some of the club I play (piano) have a rule that the valets are NOt to adjust seats when parking cars. It's kinda interesting to watch these 6'+ college athletes squeezing behing the wheel of some 4'5 little old lady's land yacht. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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They'll arrange one - they use E Class wagons for service but will arrange a tow if things are that serious - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Larry, I know you are a fact checker, but are you sure about the tow? Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That makes the Free for Life service MB provides particularity helpful! They'll bring out a couple of gallons of diesel, change a flat tire, jump start and tow the car if needed - all for free - to any MB owner - original buyer or not. That's a pretty good commitment to service. I know, if it needs to be towed they will probably only take it to the nearest dealer, but at least they don;t leave you in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night - enz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1187 - Release Date: 12/16/2007 11:36 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Oooh stop your bitching people, over here you're lucky if the spare parts person will talk to you. I know the car sales people won't unless you are wearing a suit. Our main dealer used to be alright until they built a fancy new facility and now the spare parts are in there with the new cars and I think the attitude has changed a bit. Roadside assistance, yeah dream on unless you buy a new MB or pay a squillion bucks a year. Hendrik who has not been left stranded by his MB's..yet PS. perhaps if you people remember to put fuel in your cars you won't need to bother the nice roadside elves so much, this begs the question, how did you lot become a super power if the average yank can't even remember that their car runs on fuel and needs this replenished at regular intervals? One day they'll forget to fill the space shuttle. Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: OK-that's what I thought, But the fuel, the tire change and the jumpstart are free-yes? I know the jumpstart is. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hendrik Fay wrote: Roadside assistance, yeah dream on unless you buy a new MB or pay a squillion bucks a year. Back in the day, our cars cost as much in $US as the German models (with fewer standard features) cost in Deutchmarks. For example, my 1979 300SD was a $27,000 car, my 1986 2.3-16 was a $35,000 car. I like to think that our exorbitant prices at the time earned us more standard features and special services like free roadside assistance, as well as substandard horsepower. (my 2.3-16 was rated at 167HP, not 185PS) How much did the cars cost over there 20-30 years ago? Speaking of car prices, what would it cost to import a used German car from UK to AU? The lovely S124 300TE that they destroyed on BBC's Top Gear was purchased from a used car dealer for 795 Sterling if I recall correctly, at a time when it equaled about $1200 US. (now 800 Sterling = 1600 US, but a 124 gasser wagon is probably worth 500-600 Sterling now) the average yank can't even remember that their car runs on fuel and needs this replenished at regular intervals? One day they'll forget to fill the space shuttle. That would be one way to keep it from exploding. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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hehehe... I love it! Reminds me of my grandfather who'd remark about someone out of fuel, If they don't have enough common sense to check their fuel level they don't need to be on the highway. A neighbor in her expensive Acura/Lexus SUV thing (they all look alike to me) has run out of fuel twice in the last month though the vehicle has a gauge, low fuel indicator, a color television screen which flashes that her driving range (until empty) is 0. There's a polite little voice which exclaims, Fuel is low. She ignores the warnings and is frustrated when she runs out of gasoline. From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:22:19 +1030 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Oooh stop your bitching people, over here you're lucky if the spare parts person will talk to you. I know the car sales people won't unless you are wearing a suit. Our main dealer used to be alright until they built a fancy new facility and now the spare parts are in there with the new cars and I think the attitude has changed a bit. Roadside assistance, yeah dream on unless you buy a new MB or pay a squillion bucks a year. Hendrik who has not been left stranded by his MB's..yet PS. perhaps if you people remember to put fuel in your cars you won't need to bother the nice roadside elves so much, this begs the question, how did you lot become a super power if the average yank can't even remember that their car runs on fuel and needs this replenished at regular intervals? One day they'll forget to fill the space shuttle. Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: OK-that's what I thought, But the fuel, the tire change and the jumpstart are free-yes? I know the jumpstart is. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'll never forget about 1978 I had to pick up a German couple at the airport. I was driving a Lincoln TownCar, the last year of the 460 cu in V8. They remarked about how nice the American cars were, how much more plush were the interiors than the German autos. That's something I remember. Sorry, but the Lincoln was a POS and six months after purchase and 48 miles out of warranty (12K mile warranties at the time) when the transmission gave trouble I dumped it vowing never again to buy an American vehicle. The status of Mercedes Benz later became popular (Perhaps it was that JR Ewing drove one on Dallas?). Still, I remember first impression that the Germans car (interiors) seemed rather spartan compared to the frufru of velour on the American sedans. From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:14:12 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Hendrik Fay wrote: Roadside assistance, yeah dream on unless you buy a new MB or pay a squillion bucks a year. Back in the day, our cars cost as much in $US as the German models (with fewer standard features) cost in Deutchmarks. For example, my 1979 300SD was a $27,000 car, my 1986 2.3-16 was a $35,000 car. I like to think that our exorbitant prices at the time earned us more standard features and special services like free roadside assistance, as well as substandard horsepower. (my 2.3-16 was rated at 167HP, not 185PS) How much did the cars cost over there 20-30 years ago? Speaking of car prices, what would it cost to import a used German car from UK to AU? The lovely S124 300TE that they destroyed on BBC's Top Gear was purchased from a used car dealer for 795 Sterling if I recall correctly, at a time when it equaled about $1200 US. (now 800 Sterling = 1600 US, but a 124 gasser wagon is probably worth 500-600 Sterling now) the average yank can't even remember that their car runs on fuel and needs this replenished at regular intervals? One day they'll forget to fill the space shuttle. That would be one way to keep it from exploding. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hi, I still have a 1976 Ford LTD full size wagon with 145k miles on a 400m w/c6. Original miles on the trans and never rebuilt. The engine developed a hot off highway thrust bearing noise at 70k and I installed a new set of bearing inserts and an oil pump. Great car even after putting it in Lake Rathbun for 30 minutes. (1999) When nothing starts the wagon sitting out always starts. It gets 12mpg ! Ed in Chicago Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll never forget about 1978 I had to pick up a German couple at the airport. I was driving a Lincoln TownCar, the last year of the 460 cu in V8. They remarked about how nice the American cars were, how much more plush were the interiors than the German autos. That's something I remember. Sorry, but the Lincoln was a POS and six months after purchase and 48 miles out of warranty (12K mile warranties at the time) when the transmission gave trouble I dumped it vowing never again to buy an American vehicle. The status of Mercedes Benz later became popular (Perhaps it was that JR Ewing drove one on Dallas?). Still, I remember first impression that the Germans car (interiors) seemed rather spartan compared to the frufru of velour on the American sedans. From: Mitch Haley Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:14:12 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Hendrik Fay wrote: Roadside assistance, yeah dream on unless you buy a new MB or pay a squillion bucks a year. Back in the day, our cars cost as much in $US as the German models (with fewer standard features) cost in Deutchmarks. For example, my 1979 300SD was a $27,000 car, my 1986 2.3-16 was a $35,000 car. I like to think that our exorbitant prices at the time earned us more standard features and special services like free roadside assistance, as well as substandard horsepower. (my 2.3-16 was rated at 167HP, not 185PS) How much did the cars cost over there 20-30 years ago? Speaking of car prices, what would it cost to import a used German car from UK to AU? The lovely S124 300TE that they destroyed on BBC's Top Gear was purchased from a used car dealer for 795 Sterling if I recall correctly, at a time when it equaled about $1200 US. (now 800 Sterling = 1600 US, but a 124 gasser wagon is probably worth 500-600 Sterling now) the average yank can't even remember that their car runs on fuel and needs this replenished at regular intervals? One day they'll forget to fill the space shuttle. That would be one way to keep it from exploding. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have been stranded by my Mercedes on two different occasions. Each incident was a different vehicle. How did I get stranded? I was dumb enough to leave the vehicle lights on all day (85 300SD). Contacted roadside assistance and they sent out a local indy to jump start me without charge. The second incident. I was dumb enough to have lost my car keys on a Sunday afternoon and thought perhaps they were inside the vehicle (85 300CD). I contacted roadside assistance who informed me that they would send out a tech immediately if I wanted one, but that this service was not covered by roadside assistance hence I would have to pay for the call. The alternative they offered was to call in the VIN to the local dealer on Monday and have a key duplicated. The cost for duplication $28.00 the cost for the roadside assistance would have been over $100.00 (Incidentally the key had NOT been left inside the vehicle - I found it a month later in a pair of pants I had on earlier that day.) I did not purchase either vehicle new nor did I purchase them from a dealer. Sounds like a pretty good roadside assistance program to me. :) Dave H... From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 6:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Oooh stop your bitching people, over here you're lucky if the spare parts person will talk to you. I know the car sales people won't unless you are wearing a suit. Our main dealer used to be alright until they built a fancy new facility and now the spare parts are in there with the new cars and I think the attitude has changed a bit. Roadside assistance, yeah dream on unless you buy a new MB or pay a squillion bucks a year. Hendrik who has not been left stranded by his MB's..yet PS. perhaps if you people remember to put fuel in your cars you won't need to bother the nice roadside elves so much, this begs the question, how did you lot become a super power if the average yank can't even remember that their car runs on fuel and needs this replenished at regular intervals? One day they'll forget to fill the space shuttle. Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: OK-that's what I thought, But the fuel, the tire change and the jumpstart are free-yes? I know the jumpstart is. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Perhaps it was that JR Ewing drove one on Dallas? Of course, Jock also drove a big ole Lincoln and so did Ray Crebbs wife Donna. But, you are right. I wanted a Mercedes when I saw JR had one. JR was the bad guy, but I always liked JR. Now, when Sue Ellen went from the big Ford Country Squire Wagon to a 123 Diesel Wagon, soccer moms nationwide wanted a MB wagon. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think John Lennon tooting about NY in a 123, didn't hurt wagon sales much either. :-) I think the car was made to haul Marshall amps in myself. hee hee Ed 300E On 18/12/2007, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps it was that JR Ewing drove one on Dallas? Of course, Jock also drove a big ole Lincoln and so did Ray Crebbs wife Donna. But, you are right. I wanted a Mercedes when I saw JR had one. JR was the bad guy, but I always liked JR. Now, when Sue Ellen went from the big Ford Country Squire Wagon to a 123 Diesel Wagon, soccer moms nationwide wanted a MB wagon. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The American cars are built for tooling around town, the German cars are meant for traveling in all day, and not being sore and tired when you arrive. On Dec 18, 2007 9:44 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Dad always had Town Cars and T Birds, back in the 70s and 80's and then got a new 450 SEL. He said the thing drove like a park bench, and soon it was gone. Replaced with another Ford. I fell in love with the S though, and it always kind of stayed with me. :-) I guess some like to pretend they're in their living rooms when going down the road, others like to pretend they're in the park. :-) Ed 300E -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My Dad always had Town Cars and T Birds, back in the 70s and 80's and then got a new 450 SEL. He said the thing drove like a park bench, and soon it was gone. Replaced with another Ford. I fell in love with the S though, and it always kind of stayed with me. :-) I guess some like to pretend they're in their living rooms when going down the road, others like to pretend they're in the park. :-) Ed 300E On 18/12/2007, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll never forget about 1978 I had to pick up a German couple at the airport. I was driving a Lincoln TownCar, the last year of the 460 cu in V8. They remarked about how nice the American cars were, how much more plush were the interiors than the German autos. That's something I remember. Sorry, but the Lincoln was a POS and six months after purchase and 48 miles out of warranty (12K mile warranties at the time) when the transmission gave trouble I dumped it vowing never again to buy an American vehicle. The status of Mercedes Benz later became popular (Perhaps it was that JR Ewing drove one on Dallas?). Still, I remember first impression that the Germans car (interiors) seemed rather spartan compared to the frufru of velour on the American sedans. From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:14:12 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Hendrik Fay wrote: Roadside assistance, yeah dream on unless you buy a new MB or pay a squillion bucks a year. Back in the day, our cars cost as much in $US as the German models (with fewer standard features) cost in Deutchmarks. For example, my 1979 300SD was a $27,000 car, my 1986 2.3-16 was a $35,000 car. I like to think that our exorbitant prices at the time earned us more standard features and special services like free roadside assistance, as well as substandard horsepower. (my 2.3-16 was rated at 167HP, not 185PS) How much did the cars cost over there 20-30 years ago? Speaking of car prices, what would it cost to import a used German car from UK to AU? The lovely S124 300TE that they destroyed on BBC's Top Gear was purchased from a used car dealer for 795 Sterling if I recall correctly, at a time when it equaled about $1200 US. (now 800 Sterling = 1600 US, but a 124 gasser wagon is probably worth 500-600 Sterling now) the average yank can't even remember that their car runs on fuel and needs this replenished at regular intervals? One day they'll forget to fill the space shuttle. That would be one way to keep it from exploding. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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He never drove it himself and it scared the crap out of Yoko..good. Also I think it was the first Diesel S123 in the States. Was on the market a few years back but haven't heard much about it lately, from what i remember it was going pretty cheap too, considering how much people are spending on collectible stuff. E M wrote: I think John Lennon tooting about NY in a 123, didn't hurt wagon sales much either. :-) I think the car was made to haul Marshall amps in myself. hee hee Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ok Don wrote: The American cars are built for tooling around town, the German cars are meant for traveling in all day, and not being sore and tired when you arrive. That sounds like a pretty good analysis. Big Buicks/Cadillacs sure are comfortable for short trips. But, after several hours most are sore. I wasn't sure this was true until I drove my 126 for 14 hours and felt fine when I got out of the car. Of course, that was a 126 - the best MB's built for long driving IMHO. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'm not sure if he even knew how to drive to be honest. I did see the car at auction, and at that time, about 5 years ago, I think it had a $100,000 reserve or something. I think it had some restoration work, like paint since lennon owned it too, if I remember. Ed 300E On 19/12/2007, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He never drove it himself and it scared the crap out of Yoko..good. Also I think it was the first Diesel S123 in the States. Was on the market a few years back but haven't heard much about it lately, from what i remember it was going pretty cheap too, considering how much people are spending on collectible stuff. E M wrote: I think John Lennon tooting about NY in a 123, didn't hurt wagon sales much either. :-) I think the car was made to haul Marshall amps in myself. hee hee Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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hmm I forgot about Sue Ellen's Country Squire. I liked the Mark V (EWING-1) Jock drove. (Lincoln Marks III - V were favorites until my '78 lemon TownCar experience. When bodies changed in '80 I quit Lincoln (though wondered once if a 5 cyl. 3L work in my old Mark III. The 70's were tough on a kid who only got 8 mpg.)) BUT... the thing I remember most was how everyone seemed to want to replace their painted hub caps with Bundts when JR rolled out the light greem MB (EWING - 3) ...wasn't it a 280SE? I only watched the first years. When I lost interest I think J.R. was driving a W126 about 1981? Heck, in 13/14 seasons, I have no idea what JR was driving by 1991? Let's see.. I was never interested in Corvettes, SLs nor 911s so I paid little attention to Bobby and Pam's vehicles. I do feature that they had an impact in the 450SL because every budding socialite seemed to covet one. Too bad more people didn't watch Dynasty. We might see more examples of the 600 Pullman floating around? From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:35:30 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Perhaps it was that JR Ewing drove one on Dallas? Of course, Jock also drove a big ole Lincoln and so did Ray Crebbs wife Donna. But, you are right. I wanted a Mercedes when I saw JR had one. JR was the bad guy, but I always liked JR. Now, when Sue Ellen went from the big Ford Country Squire Wagon to a 123 Diesel Wagon, soccer moms nationwide wanted a MB wagon. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Living Room!!! When I first considered dumping the '78 Lincoln lemon, (6 mos depreciation bite) I'll never forget some hotdog salesman trying to convince me to buy some little sporty Datsun 280ZX by looking at the black Lincoln and saying, ..this boat is like riding around in your living room! I thought a minute and replied, You know, I'm on the road a lot. I don't get home often. Maybe some people LIKE to ride around in their living rooms! From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:44:47 -0400 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB My Dad always had Town Cars and T Birds, back in the 70s and 80's and then got a new 450 SEL. He said the thing drove like a park bench, and soon it was gone. Replaced with another Ford. I fell in love with the S though, and it always kind of stayed with me. :-) I guess some like to pretend they're in their living rooms when going down the road, others like to pretend they're in the park. :-) Ed 300E On 18/12/2007, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll never forget about 1978 I had to pick up a German couple at the airport. I was driving a Lincoln TownCar, the last year of the 460 cu in V8. They remarked about how nice the American cars were, how much more plush were the interiors than the German autos. That's something I remember. Sorry, but the Lincoln was a POS and six months after purchase and 48 miles out of warranty (12K mile warranties at the time) when the transmission gave trouble I dumped it vowing never again to buy an American vehicle. The status of Mercedes Benz later became popular (Perhaps it was that JR Ewing drove one on Dallas?). Still, I remember first impression that the Germans car (interiors) seemed rather spartan compared to the frufru of velour on the American sedans. From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:14:12 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Hendrik Fay wrote: Roadside assistance, yeah dream on unless you buy a new MB or pay a squillion bucks a year. Back in the day, our cars cost as much in $US as the German models (with fewer standard features) cost in Deutchmarks. For example, my 1979 300SD was a $27,000 car, my 1986 2.3-16 was a $35,000 car. I like to think that our exorbitant prices at the time earned us more standard features and special services like free roadside assistance, as well as substandard horsepower. (my 2.3-16 was rated at 167HP, not 185PS) How much did the cars cost over there 20-30 years ago? Speaking of car prices, what would it cost to import a used German car from UK to AU? The lovely S124 300TE that they destroyed on BBC's Top Gear was purchased from a used car dealer for 795 Sterling if I recall correctly, at a time when it equaled about $1200 US. (now 800 Sterling = 1600 US, but a 124 gasser wagon is probably worth 500-600 Sterling now) the average yank can't even remember that their car runs on fuel and needs this replenished at regular intervals? One day they'll forget to fill the space shuttle. That would be one way to keep it from exploding. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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LOL.. I either tilt the passenger seat back to accomodate my string bass or just let it hang out of the sun roof on nice days. :) From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:49:11 -0400 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB I think John Lennon tooting about NY in a 123, didn't hurt wagon sales much either. :-) I think the car was made to haul Marshall amps in myself. hee hee Ed 300E On 18/12/2007, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps it was that JR Ewing drove one on Dallas? Of course, Jock also drove a big ole Lincoln and so did Ray Crebbs wife Donna. But, you are right. I wanted a Mercedes when I saw JR had one. JR was the bad guy, but I always liked JR. Now, when Sue Ellen went from the big Ford Country Squire Wagon to a 123 Diesel Wagon, soccer moms nationwide wanted a MB wagon. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Something quite true about that. I remember brochures from 30-40 years ago explaining how MB seats were designed to support good posture and allow the driver control of the vehicle. Meanwhile, some of us are riding around slouching in with our 6 way power seats which recline like Lazyboys. I'm not knocking power seats (and of course now it's a must have to compete in the American market) but geez, I buy a car (used or new) and I adjust it once? Perhaps there are those like my dear brother who's somewhat obese and has to hit that little button to give enough space to manuever himself out of the driver's seat. I keep thinking it'd be more beneficial to walk 100 yards to his mailbox rather than drive? From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:21:00 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Ok Don wrote: The American cars are built for tooling around town, the German cars are meant for traveling in all day, and not being sore and tired when you arrive. That sounds like a pretty good analysis. Big Buicks/Cadillacs sure are comfortable for short trips. But, after several hours most are sore. I wasn't sure this was true until I drove my 126 for 14 hours and felt fine when I got out of the car. Of course, that was a 126 - the best MB's built for long driving IMHO. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have an old '83 Ford wagon, which now just has 57,000 kms on it, Bought it when I thought I was getting another large dog a few years ago. The dog didn't happen, but that's another story. Whenever I take Mum for a coffee, she always tells me she prefers the wagon and it's comfortable seats to the benz. lol. Had a guy stop me once with the exact same car, colour and all. He had 600,000 miles on his, and wanted to know if I'd sell mine for parts, he needed a new carb for his. ha ha ha. Ed 300E, and some other stuff. On 19/12/2007, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Living Room!!! When I first considered dumping the '78 Lincoln lemon, (6 mos depreciation bite) I'll never forget some hotdog salesman trying to convince me to buy some little sporty Datsun 280ZX by looking at the black Lincoln and saying, ..this boat is like riding around in your living room! I thought a minute and replied, You know, I'm on the road a lot. I don't get home often. Maybe some people LIKE to ride around in their living rooms! From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:44:47 -0400 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB My Dad always had Town Cars and T Birds, back in the 70s and 80's and then got a new 450 SEL. He said the thing drove like a park bench, and soon it was gone. Replaced with another Ford. I fell in love with the S though, and it always kind of stayed with me. :-) I guess some like to pretend they're in their living rooms when going down the road, others like to pretend they're in the park. :-) Ed 300E On 18/12/2007, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll never forget about 1978 I had to pick up a German couple at the airport. I was driving a Lincoln TownCar, the last year of the 460 cu in V8. They remarked about how nice the American cars were, how much more plush were the interiors than the German autos. That's something I remember. Sorry, but the Lincoln was a POS and six months after purchase and 48 miles out of warranty (12K mile warranties at the time) when the transmission gave trouble I dumped it vowing never again to buy an American vehicle. The status of Mercedes Benz later became popular (Perhaps it was that JR Ewing drove one on Dallas?). Still, I remember first impression that the Germans car (interiors) seemed rather spartan compared to the frufru of velour on the American sedans. From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:14:12 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Hendrik Fay wrote: Roadside assistance, yeah dream on unless you buy a new MB or pay a squillion bucks a year. Back in the day, our cars cost as much in $US as the German models (with fewer standard features) cost in Deutchmarks. For example, my 1979 300SD was a $27,000 car, my 1986 2.3-16 was a $35,000 car. I like to think that our exorbitant prices at the time earned us more standard features and special services like free roadside assistance, as well as substandard horsepower. (my 2.3-16 was rated at 167HP, not 185PS) How much did the cars cost over there 20-30 years ago? Speaking of car prices, what would it cost to import a used German car from UK to AU? The lovely S124 300TE that they destroyed on BBC's Top Gear was purchased from a used car dealer for 795 Sterling if I recall correctly, at a time when it equaled about $1200 US. (now 800 Sterling = 1600 US, but a 124 gasser wagon is probably worth 500-600 Sterling now) the average yank can't even remember that their car runs on fuel and needs this replenished at regular intervals? One day they'll forget to fill the space shuttle. That would be one way to keep it from exploding. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list
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When I do take the cars in for service, and leave them on the lot, I tape a large note right on the steering wheel, DON'T adjust the seats, or move the mirrors They don't have to move the seat, they're only driving 50 feet from the lot to the service bay. Ed 300E On 19/12/2007, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something quite true about that. I remember brochures from 30-40 years ago explaining how MB seats were designed to support good posture and allow the driver control of the vehicle. Meanwhile, some of us are riding around slouching in with our 6 way power seats which recline like Lazyboys. I'm not knocking power seats (and of course now it's a must have to compete in the American market) but geez, I buy a car (used or new) and I adjust it once? Perhaps there are those like my dear brother who's somewhat obese and has to hit that little button to give enough space to manuever himself out of the driver's seat. I keep thinking it'd be more beneficial to walk 100 yards to his mailbox rather than drive? From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:21:00 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Ok Don wrote: The American cars are built for tooling around town, the German cars are meant for traveling in all day, and not being sore and tired when you arrive. That sounds like a pretty good analysis. Big Buicks/Cadillacs sure are comfortable for short trips. But, after several hours most are sore. I wasn't sure this was true until I drove my 126 for 14 hours and felt fine when I got out of the car. Of course, that was a 126 - the best MB's built for long driving IMHO. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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hm... I left a car at Sears once for new tires only after a two hour wait to discover I was the proud owner of four new valve stems. I pick up the car and the young mechanic had forgotten to actually mount the new tires!? Perhaps he was too busy changing the radio from MPR to some rap station and raising the volume. Oh, I remember developing a leak in a radiator hose after dropping a car off at a dealership for an alignment. That was just too suspect so I'm in the habit of placing little pieces of tape inconspicuously on the hood, trunk, glove compartment, etc. just to see if they opened something that wasn't necessary or if they actually did bother to open the hood if necessary. Nice thing about the father and son MB indies: Todd takes great delight in showing me old worn parts that needed replacing. It's not that I don't trust him though in the past I'm sure that other mechanics tried to sell me my own spark plugs back as new replacements. From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 02:33:08 -0400 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB When I do take the cars in for service, and leave them on the lot, I tape a large note right on the steering wheel, DON'T adjust the seats, or move the mirrors They don't have to move the seat, they're only driving 50 feet from the lot to the service bay. Ed 300E On 19/12/2007, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something quite true about that. I remember brochures from 30-40 years ago explaining how MB seats were designed to support good posture and allow the driver control of the vehicle. Meanwhile, some of us are riding around slouching in with our 6 way power seats which recline like Lazyboys. I'm not knocking power seats (and of course now it's a must have to compete in the American market) but geez, I buy a car (used or new) and I adjust it once? Perhaps there are those like my dear brother who's somewhat obese and has to hit that little button to give enough space to manuever himself out of the driver's seat. I keep thinking it'd be more beneficial to walk 100 yards to his mailbox rather than drive? From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:21:00 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Ok Don wrote: The American cars are built for tooling around town, the German cars are meant for traveling in all day, and not being sore and tired when you arrive. That sounds like a pretty good analysis. Big Buicks/Cadillacs sure are comfortable for short trips. But, after several hours most are sore. I wasn't sure this was true until I drove my 126 for 14 hours and felt fine when I got out of the car. Of course, that was a 126 - the best MB's built for long driving IMHO. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gotta love MB
So the boy's car wouldn't start, diagnosed battery problem from afar. Told him to call 800mercedes, the guy shows up, gives him a jump, twiddles with the cables and tightens them, all is right with the world! No charge, only a sig required.. This being an 84, 6 months older than the boy. You gotta love MB. (Also a learning experience!) --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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They won't do that around here. I think you have to be within so many miles of a Stealership At 09:16 AM 12/17/2007, you wrote: So the boy's car wouldn't start, diagnosed battery problem from afar. Told him to call 800mercedes, the guy shows up, gives him a jump, twiddles with the cables and tightens them, all is right with the world! No charge, only a sig required.. This being an 84, 6 months older than the boy. You gotta love MB. (Also a learning experience!) --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hmm, I wonder if they'd have given mine the strap? I got an appointment with the Indy as soon as I can get the car that. Blasted work, he could have the thing done today if I could get it to him! -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:16:22 -0600 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Gotta love MB To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed So the boy's car wouldn't start, diagnosed battery problem from afar. Told him to call 800mercedes, the guy shows up, gives him a jump, twiddles with the cables and tightens them, all is right with the world! No charge, only a sig required.. This being an 84, 6 months older than the boy. You gotta love MB. (Also a learning experience!) --R - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think they would have given you the jump-I have called twice for 240D. Once I canceled as the campus police jumped me in the meantime. They sent an ML 320 full of batteries to sell if jump failed. If they can't fix they try to get you towed to their stealer base. Probably would have charged a tow for the strap. Where's your closest stealer up there on the frontier? Kind of neat. I call them over AAA just because of the service, esp. on an old diesel. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:52 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Hmm, I wonder if they'd have given mine the strap? I got an appointment with the Indy as soon as I can get the car that. Blasted work, he could have the thing done today if I could get it to him! -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:16:22 -0600 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Gotta love MB To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed So the boy's car wouldn't start, diagnosed battery problem from afar. Told him to call 800mercedes, the guy shows up, gives him a jump, twiddles with the cables and tightens them, all is right with the world! No charge, only a sig required.. This being an 84, 6 months older than the boy. You gotta love MB. (Also a learning experience!) --R - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I discovered the local providers for AAA emergency roadside service DO NOT LIKE DIESELS! Flatly was told on the phone, We can provide gasoline but do not deliver diesel. They're also hesitant to answer a call in jumping a diesel. I can kinda understand as I remember those early 80s 5.7 GM diesels kept them busy with service calls. From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:05:29 -0500 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB I think they would have given you the jump-I have called twice for 240D. Once I canceled as the campus police jumped me in the meantime. They sent an ML 320 full of batteries to sell if jump failed. If they can't fix they try to get you towed to their stealer base. Probably would have charged a tow for the strap. Where's your closest stealer up there on the frontier? Kind of neat. I call them over AAA just because of the service, esp. on an old diesel. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:52 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Hmm, I wonder if they'd have given mine the strap? I got an appointment with the Indy as soon as I can get the car that. Blasted work, he could have the thing done today if I could get it to him! -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:16:22 -0600 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Gotta love MB To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed So the boy's car wouldn't start, diagnosed battery problem from afar. Told him to call 800mercedes, the guy shows up, gives him a jump, twiddles with the cables and tightens them, all is right with the world! No charge, only a sig required.. This being an 84, 6 months older than the boy. You gotta love MB. (Also a learning experience!) --R - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That makes the Free for Life service MB provides particularity helpful! They'll bring out a couple of gallons of diesel, change a flat tire, jump start and tow the car if needed - all for free - to any MB owner - original buyer or not. That's a pretty good commitment to service. I know, if it needs to be towed they will probably only take it to the nearest dealer, but at least they don;t leave you in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB I discovered the local providers for AAA emergency roadside service DO NOT LIKE DIESELS! Flatly was told on the phone, We can provide gasoline but do not deliver diesel. They're also hesitant to answer a call in jumping a diesel. I can kinda understand as I remember those early 80s 5.7 GM diesels kept them busy with service calls. From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:05:29 -0500 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB I think they would have given you the jump-I have called twice for 240D. Once I canceled as the campus police jumped me in the meantime. They sent an ML 320 full of batteries to sell if jump failed. If they can't fix they try to get you towed to their stealer base. Probably would have charged a tow for the strap. Where's your closest stealer up there on the frontier? Kind of neat. I call them over AAA just because of the service, esp. on an old diesel. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:52 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Hmm, I wonder if they'd have given mine the strap? I got an appointment with the Indy as soon as I can get the car that. Blasted work, he could have the thing done today if I could get it to him! -Curt Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:16:22 -0600 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Gotta love MB To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed So the boy's car wouldn't start, diagnosed battery problem from afar. Told him to call 800mercedes, the guy shows up, gives him a jump, twiddles with the cables and tightens them, all is right with the world! No charge, only a sig required.. This being an 84, 6 months older than the boy. You gotta love MB. (Also a learning experience!) --R - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1187 - Release Date: 12/16/2007 11:36 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Larry, I know you are a fact checker, but are you sure about the tow? Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That makes the Free for Life service MB provides particularity helpful! They'll bring out a couple of gallons of diesel, change a flat tire, jump start and tow the car if needed - all for free - to any MB owner - original buyer or not. That's a pretty good commitment to service. I know, if it needs to be towed they will probably only take it to the nearest dealer, but at least they don;t leave you in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night - enz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well, they will tow it to the nearest dealer and you will then pay, I do know that. The tow is not free --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Larry, I know you are a fact checker, but are you sure about the tow? Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That makes the Free for Life service MB provides particularity helpful! They'll bring out a couple of gallons of diesel, change a flat tire, jump start and tow the car if needed - all for free - to any MB owner - original buyer or not. That's a pretty good commitment to service. I know, if it needs to be towed they will probably only take it to the nearest dealer, but at least they don;t leave you in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night - enz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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OK-that's what I thought, But the fuel, the tire change and the jumpstart are free-yes? I know the jumpstart is. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 6:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Well, they will tow it to the nearest dealer and you will then pay, I do know that. The tow is not free --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Larry, I know you are a fact checker, but are you sure about the tow? Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That makes the Free for Life service MB provides particularity helpful! They'll bring out a couple of gallons of diesel, change a flat tire, jump start and tow the car if needed - all for free - to any MB owner - original buyer or not. That's a pretty good commitment to service. I know, if it needs to be towed they will probably only take it to the nearest dealer, but at least they don;t leave you in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night - enz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
yes, I do believe so --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB OK-that's what I thought, But the fuel, the tire change and the jumpstart are free-yes? I know the jumpstart is. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 6:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Well, they will tow it to the nearest dealer and you will then pay, I do know that. The tow is not free --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Larry, I know you are a fact checker, but are you sure about the tow? Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That makes the Free for Life service MB provides particularity helpful! They'll bring out a couple of gallons of diesel, change a flat tire, jump start and tow the car if needed - all for free - to any MB owner - original buyer or not. That's a pretty good commitment to service. I know, if it needs to be towed they will probably only take it to the nearest dealer, but at least they don;t leave you in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night - enz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
Wonder if they'll tow it home for similar money to a regular tow truck guy? I've seen a few on their way to the dealer and like the idea of a flatbed. I like better the idea of never needing a tow, as I've only needed a tow twice in 25 years. Blown air box in a porsche, and a broke timing belt. They weren't patch at the side of the road and limp it home problems. :-) Ed 300E On 17/12/2007, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, they will tow it to the nearest dealer and you will then pay, I do know that. The tow is not free --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Larry, I know you are a fact checker, but are you sure about the tow? Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That makes the Free for Life service MB provides particularity helpful! They'll bring out a couple of gallons of diesel, change a flat tire, jump start and tow the car if needed - all for free - to any MB owner - original buyer or not. That's a pretty good commitment to service. I know, if it needs to be towed they will probably only take it to the nearest dealer, but at least they don;t leave you in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night - enz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
Dwight, That's right. If you need a battery, the charge is for battery only. No install labor. Personal history, I live 10 miles from dealership and had the Road Service come to me for a new battery And if you are an MBCA member, you will usually get a 10% discount. Gotta' ask for it though. Not all dealers honor that benefit, but most do. Also, the tow is arranged thru MB-Help-Me with an independent towing company. They will take you wherever you want to go. If it is to a dealership, the tow charge will be tacked onto your charges at the dealership. Take care and hope no one needs Roadside Service this Holiday Season!!!. Chuck Phoenix AZ On Dec 17, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: OK-that's what I thought, But the fuel, the tire change and the jumpstart are free-yes? I know the jumpstart is. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 6:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Well, they will tow it to the nearest dealer and you will then pay, I do know that. The tow is not free --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Larry, I know you are a fact checker, but are you sure about the tow? Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB That makes the Free for Life service MB provides particularity helpful! They'll bring out a couple of gallons of diesel, change a flat tire, jump start and tow the car if needed - all for free - to any MB owner - original buyer or not. That's a pretty good commitment to service. I know, if it needs to be towed they will probably only take it to the nearest dealer, but at least they don;t leave you in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night - enz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
