[SMW-devel] New HTML5 editor

2010-07-21 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

please have a look at this new editor: http://www.aloha-editor.org/

Maybe this would be a nice feature for MediaWiki in general and Semantic Forms 
in particular...

regards,
Bernhard


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Re: [SMW-devel] Automatic Semantic Form Demo online

2010-11-10 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

interesting. Can it be used without Halo/SMW+?

regards,
Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
 Hi,
 
 on behalf of the Halo team I would like to announce the first online
 demo of the Autmatic Semantic Form Extension (ASFE). The ASFE solves
 the
 problem
 of time-consuming form creation and/or maintaining which counteracts
 the
 Semantic Form's great advantage of enabling users to easily
 enter data into the Wiki. To minimize the efforts of creating a form,
 the ASFE assembles them automatically out of the Wiki's ontology so
 that
 the it is immediately ready for data entry. This happens on-the-fly if
 someone edits an instance, so that updates of the ontology are
 immediately reflected by the Semantic Forms without any extra
 maintenance efforts.
 
 We're watching out for your feedback and suggestions on the ASFE!
 
 You can check out the demo here:
 http://dailywikibuilds.ontoprise.com/asforms/index.php/Main_Page
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: [SMW-devel] SMW roadmap: how to get new items on it

2011-02-25 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

I'd volunteer to help set up a SMW based trouble ticket system. I cannot 
promise to put in effort to constantly maintain it afterwards, but I can help 
set it up in the next one or two weeks. I already have an account on 
semantic-mediawiki.org, so I could actually get going pretty soon.

Can you maybe install SemanticFormsInputs as it might be handy.

Would it be possible for me to geht admin rights so I can delete or move a page 
if I need to?

regards,
Bernhard

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 In reply to the original email and the suggestions that followed:
 
 (1) I agree that it would be good if users could easily specify
 feature
 requests, and if there was some way of finding out how much each of
 them
 is wanted.
 
 (2) This could also inspire new extension projects. Users may not know
 what fits into SMW or into any other extension, so it would be good to
 have a central mechanism for collecting ideas.
 
 (3) I agree that Bugzilla-like organization of information makes
 sense,
 but that Bugzilla is not fully suitable. Using some templates and
 forms,
 one could easily copy the Bugzilla structure without its restrictions.
 This has been done, e.g. by Ryan Lane in an SMW-based trouble ticket
 system. semantic-mediawiki.org would be a good place for this.
 
 (4) Such a setup would connect to our recent discussion about
 collecting
 interesting implementation tasks. Features are always more fun to
 implement than bug fixes, and a well-organised list of features could
 be
 a starting point for new contributors.
 
 (5) It is never easy to measure how important a feature is. We cannot
 expect such broad interest that we really get representative opinions
 for our whole community. But a wiki system could have links to user
 pages to record support.
 
 (6) The Roadmap is not immediately related to this. It is a list of
 things that someone wants to do, not of things that someone wants to
 be
 done. It is organised by extension (cf. (2)). The process of editing
 it
 is to talk to the maintainer of the respective extension.
 
 
 So my proposal is to set up a form-based feature requesting system and
 to see how it goes. One or two people are needed to create and
 maintain
 this system; please step forward. It does not need to be perfect
 initially. We may need only a few form fields: title, description,
 related extension (or unknown/new), maybe a list of related bug
 reports on Bugzilla, status of the request. Comments could be
 implemented with a subform (list of items; easy to delete
 accidentally)
 or on extra pages (pulled in with a query; cooler, but needs another
 add comment form that autogenerates a page name and links to the
 original request). The description should be collaboratively edited
 (i.e. not owned by the user who reported it), the comments should not.
 Could/should LiquidThreads be used for having comments below a page
 instead of on the talk page?
 
 To me it seems that this could be an exciting approach for many,
 especially smaller software projects, so we might actually set
 standards
 doing this. We can also directly link such facilities from SMWAdmin to
 get more users involved.
 
 Markus
 
 
 On 24/02/2011 19:29, Jeroen De Dauw wrote:
  Hey,
 
  Following the recent discussions about the roadmap, I'm asking
  myself if
  there is no need for a process to get new items on it. I have
  several
  idea's that I think would be nice to implement, but not maybe not
  everyone agrees they should be. I think ideally there should be some
  place to request features with something that allows the community
  to
  categorize these by demand. And then a mechanism to check if the
  features with high demand make sense to put on the roadmap, and find
  out
  where to best put them.
 
  Some people might think this is overkill since there is very little
  community involvement with these things right now, but I think this
  is
  in part caused by the current way of doing things itself. Right now
  I
  can either create a page somewhere with a list of stuff I want to
  have
  implemented, that no one will ever seriously look at, or just place
  things directly onto the roadmap.
 
  I'm not sure what would be a good approach here, but it's probably a
  good idea to have a look at how other communities are managing this.
  I'd
  be very interested in other peoples thoughts (and suggestions) on
  this.
 
  Cheers
 
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Re: [SMW-devel] [SF] version 2.1.1 - CSS tweak

2011-03-21 Thread Krabina Bernhard
I can confirm the problem in 2.1.1...

And the fix works well. Would be great if we had the possibility to add desired 
window sizes...

e.g.
|popup=800,600

regards,
Bernhard

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 Hi Laurent.
 
  I tried the new popup option from a #formlink and found that my form
  was
  only displayed in the top third portion of the popup frame.
 
  I was able to fix it using this CSS ;
 
  div.popupform-innercontainer { height: 100%; }
 
 Are you sure you are using the latest version? This should be in since
 SF version 2.1.
 
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Re: [SMW-devel] [SF] more troubleshooting for popups with IE

2011-03-29 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

no, and it works now even on my wiki !? Maybe some caching issue in my browser? 

But anyway, solved, thanx!

regards,
Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
 Am 29.03.2011 16:09, schrieb Krabina Bernhard:
  My problem is that the popup window displays an empty page with a
  scrollbar. If I move the scrollbar to the right, I can see the form.
  Somehow an empty space with the widht of the popup window shows up,
  I
  don't know where it comes from. If I use the form directly, it
  displays fine.
 
 Again I can not reproduce it. It works here:
 http://scratchpad.referata.com/wiki/Form:Project_Facts (just insert a
 name and hit Create or edit.)
 
 Can you reproduce it on referata? Or is it somewhere where I can see
 it?
 
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Re: [SMW-devel] Displaying the last update user of an Article

2011-05-04 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi, 

there is a special variable in MediaWiki you can use: {{REVISIONUSER}}

In my template I use e. g. 

[[User:{{REVISIONUSER}}|{{REVISIONUSER}}]]

which displays me a Link to the Userpage of the user that did the last revision.

In a template you can easily set a property for yourself:

[[has modification user::{{REVISIONUSER}}]]

If you don't use templates, you would have to rely on a built in property which 
afaik does not exist.

regards,
Bernhard

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 Hi All.
 
 Since it is possible to display the Modification date of an Article (
 special property in Semantic MediaWiki with a built-in meaning). I
 would expect also a special property like Modification User. But i
 think this does not exists.
 
 My Questions: Is it really missing? Is it planned to implement it? Is
 there a workaround?
 
 Any help is welcome.
 
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] iCalendar format in protected wikis

2011-07-21 Thread Krabina Bernhard
I think that the username@passwort-thing is something that does not work at all 
in MediaWiki, because it uses other mechanisms.

However, I think that for SMW getting data out of a protected SMW is a very 
important aspect. Maybe something like a token based thing can be implemented? 

E.g. a call to an RSS-feed includes a public key (like Google Analytics uses 
one) and in the settings of the wiki, valid private keys are defined that 
bypass the login-mechanisms when a corresponding public key is used?

Any thoughts on this from the SMW developers?

regards,
Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
 Heiya,
 
 I have not tried this since I do not have a password protected wiki so
 far. Still I am thinking of switching
 to one. Thus it would be cool if this result format works in this
 environment too. Perhaps the best idea would
 be to get SRF to drop username:password@ during export. However, I do
 not know if something like this is
 possible or if this actually does the trick.
 
 Cheers [[kgh]]
 
 
 Am 18.07.2011 13:24, schrieb Krabina Bernhard:
  Hi,
 
  did anyone have success in using the icalandar export format of a
  password protected SMW in another program?
 
  I failed in Google calendar as well as zimbra with URLs like
 
  http://username:passw...@wikiurl.com/Special:Search
 
  It works in non-protected SMWs, though. Any ideas on how to do it?
 
  regards,
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Re: [SMW-devel] Using #ifexist with images

2011-09-22 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

I am not the parser functions guru, but in my template for displaying images, I 
use the following:

{{#if: {{{Diagramm1|}}}| [[Diagramm::Image:{{{Diagramm1|}}}| ]] 
[[Image:{{{Diagramm1|}}}|thumb|800px|left|{{Datei:{{{Diagramm1|}]] |}}

You don't need this: {{Datei:{{{Diagramm1|} it just displays the comment 
for the uploaded image as an image caption.

regards,
Bernhard

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 Hi all,
 
 I have a very large wiki site for literature. I want to upload a
 photo for
 each author on the site, but I don't have all the photos. So I
 thought I can
 upload the images that I have, and the authors that don't have a
 photo will
 get the default image No photo Available.
 
 So I guess I should use the parser #ifexist for that, and tried all
 kinds of
 syntax, but none worked.
 
 can anyone help please?
 
 Thank you,
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Re: [SMW-devel] Funding for development of standard wikitext editor in SF

2011-10-21 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear all,

I'm happy to announce that KDZ is funding the development of enhancing Semantic 
Forms [1] to work with the Extension WikiEditor [2] as editor in text fields.

Stephan Gambke has agreed to take over the task. So if anybody has plans, 
ideas, etc. in this direction please let us know.

regards,
Bernhard

[1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Forms
[2] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
 Dear all,
 
 I am planning to put up funding for a functionality that has been
 missing for a long time: I'd like to be able to use the standard MW
 editor for Text fields in Semantic Forms.
 
 I know there are some other WYSIWYG editors that are supposed to
 work, but I'd rather have something very simple and something that
 regular wiki users are used to.
 
 So I'd like to be able in forms (at least for the property of type
 Text) to have an option in the formdefinition like
 |editor=standard
 
 And it should work together with Header Tabs.
 
 I'd like to know who would be willing to develop this feature and how
 much he/she would charge. I would need somebody to write me a bill
 for the job.
 
 To the users, I'd like to ask if there would be someone else that can
 put up co-funding for this.
 
 regards,
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[SMW-devel] Getting data out of protected wikis?

2011-11-08 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear SMW community,

I know that my original question this summer (see below) was slightly 
off-topic, but as SMW is used for making data available, I think this question 
deserves (at least a theoretical) discussion:

SMW is in many instances used on protected wikis (e. g. in organisations). Even 
in protected wikis, the admins might want to make data available to persons 
outside of the wiki. Let's take the simplest use case: a RSS-feed on news items 
of a protected wiki should be made available in some person's 
e-mail-application. 

Simple username/password-mechanisms are not supported by the Special:Ask page 
that produces the RSS output format.

Which authentication mechanisms can be thought of/could be implemented to 
enable something like this??

regards,
Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
 I think that the username@passwort-thing is something that does not
 work at all in MediaWiki, because it uses other mechanisms.
 
 However, I think that for SMW getting data out of a protected SMW is
 a very important aspect. Maybe something like a token based thing
 can be implemented?
 
 E.g. a call to an RSS-feed includes a public key (like Google
 Analytics uses one) and in the settings of the wiki, valid private
 keys are defined that bypass the login-mechanisms when a
 corresponding public key is used?
 
 Any thoughts on this from the SMW developers?
 
 regards,
 Bernhard
 
 - Ursprüngliche Mail -
  Heiya,
  
  I have not tried this since I do not have a password protected wiki
  so
  far. Still I am thinking of switching
  to one. Thus it would be cool if this result format works in this
  environment too. Perhaps the best idea would
  be to get SRF to drop username:password@ during export. However, I
  do
  not know if something like this is
  possible or if this actually does the trick.
  
  Cheers [[kgh]]
  
  
  Am 18.07.2011 13:24, schrieb Krabina Bernhard:
   Hi,
  
   did anyone have success in using the icalandar export format of a
   password protected SMW in another program?
  
   I failed in Google calendar as well as zimbra with URLs like
  
   http://username:passw...@wikiurl.com/Special:Search
  
   It works in non-protected SMWs, though. Any ideas on how to do
   it?
  
   regards,
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] RFC: Value distribution support in result formats

2011-11-08 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Thumbs up, Jeoren

Great feature that will definitely enhance our wikis!

I don't have a problem with the naming of
| distribution=
| distributionsort=
| distributionlimit=

Can it also be used with regular formats like csv or table (resulting in the 
value for the distribution to be displayed?)

regards,
Bernhard

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 Hey all,
 
 I have implemented general support for value distributions in result
 formats in SMW. This email explains this feature and is meant to
 gather
 feedback on it before SMW 1.7 is released.
 
 == Goal ==
 
 Allow visualizing how many times each value in a result occurs, ie
 allow
 for creating value distributions.
 
 For example, this result set: foo bar baz foo bar bar ohi
 Will be turned into
 * bar (3)
 * foo (2)
 * baz (1)
 * ohi (1)
 
 This can then be displayed in chart formats, with the value as label
 and
 the occurrence count as value. Although the most obvious use for this
 are
 charts, it can really be used with any format.
 
 == Current implementation: how to use it ==
 
 Each format needs to add support for this functionality before you'll
 be
 able to use it to visualize value distributions. Right now only
 jqplotbar
 and jqplotpie make use of it. All formats that support this
 functionality
 accept 3 additional parameters:
 
 * distribution (on/off) - if a value distribution should be
 calculated and
 shown instead of the regular results.
 * distributionsort (asc/desc/none) - the sort of the values, by
 occurance
 count.
 * distributionlimit (positive whole number) - the max amount of
 values to
 visualize.
 
 This example will get the countries the matching cities are located
 in,
 count the occurance of each, and display this as a pie chart. Note
 the use
 of the mainlabel parameter. If this is not done, the cities
 themselves will
 also be put into the value distribution.
 
 {{#ask: [[Category:Locations]] [[Has location type::City]]
 | ?Located in
 | format=jqplotpie
 | distribution=on
 | mainlabel=-
 | limit=500
 }}
 
 This example will do the same query,  but will only show the 10
 countries
 with most matching cities, in descending order.
 
 {{#ask: [[Category:Locations]] [[Has location type::City]]
 | ?Located in
 | format=jqplotpie
 | distribution=on
 | distributionsort=desc
 | distributionlimit=10
 | mainlabel=-
 | limit=500
 }}
 
 You can see these examples and 2 others working on the mapping
 documentation wiki, making use of the example semantic data there:
 http://mapping.referata.com/wiki/Value_distribution_examples
 
 == Implementation details (technical) ==
 
 After looking into several options I decided to implement this as a
 result
 printer class deriving from SMWResultPrinter, requiring changes to
 each
 format that wants to support this behaviour, but making this
 relatively
 easy. This approach seems like a good balance between making this
 functionality available as easy as possible and staying sane.
 
 This class is called SMWDistributablePrinter and can be found here:
 http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/queryprinters/SMW_QP_Distributable.php?view=markup
 
 Example jqplotpie implementation:
 http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/jqPlot/SRF_jqPlotPie.php?view=markup
 
 == Request for comments ==
 
 Feedback is welcome. The main question for users is what names the
 parameters should use. Right now they all start with distribution,
 but
 there might be a better (and shorter) name. From developers I'd like
 to
 know if you agree with this architecture.
 
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] PDF documents from SMW pages

2011-11-17 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

I think making the Collection extension  SMW work together is a very important 
functionality! 

Are there SMW developers that would be interested to have an eye on that?

Are there implementors/customers who would be willing to provide funding?

regards,
Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
 Hi John,
 
 It is not a SMW problem as such, rather a PDF Writer problem.
 The Collection extension is alright though, doing IT'S job.
 The problem is that PDF Writer only understands regular MW markup,
 not all that comes with SMW.
 And that is a real pity.
 I understand, however, that PediaPress considers it is their main
 duty to serve Wikipedia, and do it well.
 I guess the responsibles for PDF Writer and Semantic MediaWiki must
 cooperate in some sense to find a solution.
 A sort of two-stage transformation should be considered: SMW - MW -
 PDF (plus other formats like ODF and HTML for that matter).
 
 Regards,
 Even Thorbergsen
 
 -Opprinnelig melding-
 Fra: John McClure [mailto:jmccl...@hypergrove.com]
 Sendt: 16. november 2011 19:34
 Til: Thorbergsen, Even
 Kopi: semediawiki-u...@lists.sourceforge.net
 Emne: RE: PDF documents from SMW pages
 
 Hi Even,
 Would you know why the Collection extension does not execute the SMW
 {{#ask:}} parser function? Does it not execute all parser functions
 on a page? I'm really confused by this one, and I do have tentative
 plans to use the Collections extension. Is the Collections extension
 poorly designed?
 Your note implies it's an SMW problem, not a Collections problem.
 Regards,
 John
 
 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 15:06:34 +0100
 From: Thorbergsen, Even even.thorberg...@brreg.no
 Subject: [Semediawiki-user] PDF documents from SMW pages
 To: semediawiki-u...@lists.sourceforge.net
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 Message-ID:
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 Hi all,
 
 Does anyone know if it is or soon will be possible to generate PDF
 documents directly from a page or a set of pages containing SMW-type
 queries?
 
 I have for a while used the Collection extension in combination with
 the PDF Writer extension for creating wiki-based PDF documents.
 However, with an increasing amount of content being generated by SMW
 queries, these extensions tends to be less valuable.
 
 Regards,
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Re: [SMW-devel] Semantic MediaWiki 1.8 target date

2012-07-03 Thread Krabina Bernhard
 I will be releasing new versions of several other extensions around
 the same time, including Semantic Result Formats 1.8, Validator 0.5,
 Maps 2.0 and Semantic Maps 2.0.

Thumbs up!!!

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Re: [SMW-devel] [SMW] 1.8; Special:Ask layout change proposal

2012-07-25 Thread Krabina Bernhard
   I'm really not sure about that hover thing
 Me neither but what else is there left, if this is not an option?
 
 Another option would be to introduce a user preference where one can
 opt-in/out of the text display but do we really want to do this?
 
 [1]
 https://github.com/mwjames/docs/raw/master/smw-core/special-ask-table-without-text.png
 
 [2]
 https://github.com/mwjames/docs/raw/master/smw-core/special-ask-table-with-text.png

Why not use Tool tips as in SF: 
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Forms/Defining_forms#Tooltips

Sites with using forms (and tooltips) have already a common pattern for users 
(klick on the tootip for more info). This would make sense in Special:Ask as 
well...

regards,
Bernhard


 
 Cheers
 
 mwjames
 
 On 7/25/12, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote:
  Hi James,
 
  I just tried this code out now, and I regret not having looked at
  it
  before. I'm really not sure about that hover thing - as Jeroen
  notes, it
  has usabiility issues, and beyond that, it just seems like too much
  work to
  makes users do. It would be one thing if the hover were just
  clarifying
  what was already on the page, but in this case the parameter names
  by
  themselves are pretty cryptic - and they're always in English, so
  if people
  don't speak English then they're forced to hover over every
  parameter.
 
  Was the issue that the parameter descriptions were taking up too
  much of
  the page? If so, one possibility is just to display them in a
  smaller font
  instead - that might help readability as well (ironically), since
  it
  wouldn't look as much like a sea of text.
 
  -Yaron
 
  On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Jeroen De Dauw
  jeroended...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Hey James,
 
  I just merged in your changes, and they are looking great :)
 
  One usability suggestion I have is adding a line of text at the
  top of
  the
  other options box explaining what they are, in particular that
  you can
  cover over their names to get their associated description (as
  this might
  not be obvious).
 
  And this only occurred to me now, but the WMF has a usability
  policy
  discouraging use of hover-only features, as they do not work on
  most
  mobile
  devices. Not sure how to address this issue here though.
 
 
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] further development of filtered output

2012-09-30 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

 http://kalmar12.fzi.de/testskinwiki/index.php/Spezial:Anwendungsliste

that's great! Is the skin available somewhere?

 Who is interested in adding the following features of filtered in a
 Roadmap [1]?
 1) support more than 'list' value in 'list view type'. For example
 what about make filters on a maps, wouldn't that be useful in any
 wiki
 with maps? Or timelines? Or the most powerful 'template' output?

I would need the possibility of exporting the filtered entries to an csv file!

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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] [News] Google, Microsoft, Facebook And Others Launch SMW site

2012-10-09 Thread Krabina Bernhard
this will be the SMW of the year, then ;-)

-Bernhard

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 Dear all,
 
 as TechCrunch reports [1]:
 
 
 A number of leading browser vendors and other tech companies,
 including
 Microsoft, Google, Apple, Adobe, Facebook, HP, Nokia, Mozilla, Opera
 and
 the W3C, just announced the launch of the Web Platform Docs project
 at
 WebPlatform.org. The project aims to create “a new, authoritative
 open
 web standards documentation site,” says Opera Software. The wiki-like
 site, says Opera, wants to ensure that developers can easily find
 “accurate, quality information on all the latest HTML5, CSS4 and
 other
 standards features across the multitude of available web-based
 resources.”
 
 
 And guess what software they are using ... [2]
 
 Cheers,
 
 Markus
 
 [1]
 http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/08/google-microsoft-facebook-and-others-launch-web-platform-docs-a-web-standards-documentation-site/
 [2] http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Special:Version
 
 
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[SMW-devel] SRF: ical format and outlook

2012-10-11 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

does anybody have experience with the iCalander export format [1] and MS 
outlook?

I have two questions:

1. Is there a way to get Outlook (2010) to open the import assistant every time 
a ical-file is double-clicked? This is not direclty related to SRF, but if you 
have to download the file, open outlook, go to file - open - import and run 
through a dialogue [2], you are faster editing the entry manually (if it's only 
one appointment). The reason why I need the import dialogue is that I need to 
be able to choose the calendar it should be imported. Otherwise outlook will 
make a whole new calendar every time I import an event. 
Or can the iCal export file be modified so that oulook wil automatically put it 
in the same calendar when double clicked?

2. Is there a way to get Outlook (2010) subscribe to an calender provided by 
the iCalendar format of SRF. So there is no import needed, but outlook queries 
the SMW each time? 
This has to be possible in a closed wiki, so outlook would have to authenticate 
against the wiki. I know this has been discussed an is an unresolved issue. Are 
there programmers around who are willing to implement a solution to this?

regards,
Bernhard

[1] http://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:ICalendar_format
[2] http://help.unc.edu/CCM3_022163

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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] further development of filtered output

2012-10-12 Thread Krabina Bernhard
CSV export of filtered results, please!!! 

;-)

regards,
Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
 Hi all.
 
 The next piece of functionality for the filtered format is calendar
 support. Stephan Gambke is working on this for me as we speak :)
 Please feel free to send me wishes. Maps is certainly on the list.
 This would be pretty useful, especially when coupled with the
 distance slider functionality the filtered format now has.
 
 Cheers
 Neill.
 
 On 12/10/12 16:38, Yury Katkov wrote:
 
 
 On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Krabina Bernhard 
 krab...@kdz.or.at  wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi,
 
  http://kalmar12.fzi.de/testskinwiki/index.php/Spezial:Anwendungsliste
 
 that's great! Is the skin available somewhere?
 
 I asked the developer, she said that they no plans in opening the
 source code of the skin :( .
 
 
 
  Who is interested in adding the following features of filtered in a
  Roadmap [1]?
  1) support more than 'list' value in 'list view type'. For example
  what about make filters on a maps, wouldn't that be useful in any
  wiki
  with maps? Or timelines? Or the most powerful 'template' output?
 
 I would need the possibility of exporting the filtered entries to an
 csv file!
 
 This is very application specific feature, or so it seems to me.
 
 regards,
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] further development of filtered output

2012-10-12 Thread Krabina Bernhard
this is one of the main features from the exhibit format.

In a project/seminar management wiki, you filter for experts with special 
experiences (participation in projects, langage skills...). The resulting list 
should not only be displayed, but I want to export the names and contact 
addresses of the persons to write them e-mails...

regards,
Bernhard

 what do you need such a feature for? I can't imagine a use case
 myself.


 
 CSV export of filtered results, please!!!
 
 ;-)
 
 regards,
 Bernhard
 
 - Ursprüngliche Mail -
 
 
  Hi all.
  
  The next piece of functionality for the filtered format is calendar
  support. Stephan Gambke is working on this for me as we speak :)
  Please feel free to send me wishes. Maps is certainly on the list.
  This would be pretty useful, especially when coupled with the
  distance slider functionality the filtered format now has.
  
  Cheers
  Neill.
  
  On 12/10/12 16:38, Yury Katkov wrote:
  
  
  On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Krabina Bernhard 
  krab...@kdz.or.at  wrote:
  
  
  
  Hi,
  
   http://kalmar12.fzi.de/testskinwiki/index.php/Spezial:Anwendungsliste
  
  that's great! Is the skin available somewhere?
  
  I asked the developer, she said that they no plans in opening the
  source code of the skin :( .
  
  
  
   Who is interested in adding the following features of filtered in
   a
   Roadmap [1]?
   1) support more than 'list' value in 'list view type'. For
   example
   what about make filters on a maps, wouldn't that be useful in any
   wiki
   with maps? Or timelines? Or the most powerful 'template' output?
  
  I would need the possibility of exporting the filtered entries to
  an
  csv file!
  
  This is very application specific feature, or so it seems to me.
  
  regards,
  Bernhard
  
  
  
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Re: [SMW-devel] Dynamic filtered output

2012-10-15 Thread Krabina Bernhard
very cool!

And I also like your mediawiki-skin. Is that available somewhere?

regards,
Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
 For the wiki I develop, I was interested in using the filtered output
 format, but needed the results to be loaded dynamically when filters
 were changed, as I have 7000+ results to filter.
 
 I began making changes to this effect, but under time pressure and
 with no documentation on the filtered output plugin, I realised it
 would be quicker to roll my own plugin which interfaces with the SMW
 API to create dynamic filters.
 
 My plugin operates quite differently, functioning as a parser
 function which takes a JSON object of settings to initiate rather
 than operating as an output format for an ask query, however if
 there is demand I could try and merge the dynamic functionality into
 the filtered output.
 
 You can see my plugin in action here:
 http://practicalplants.org/wiki/Search
 
 Would there be any demand for this? Or is it distinct enough in
 operation that it would be preferred that I polish up my own plugin
 and release it as a separate entity? If the former, is there any
 documentation on the operation of output formats to assist me in
 integration?
 
 Ta
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[SMW-devel] WebODF

2012-10-16 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

maybe something for you to discuss here or at the SMWCon:

TikiWiki is using WebODF: http://www.webodf.org/apps/

MediaWiki should have these features, too. And SMW could come in regarding the 
document metadata?

reagards,
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] SRF: ical format and outlook

2012-10-22 Thread Krabina Bernhard
can anybody help me out with this, please?

regards,
Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
 Hi,
 
 does anybody have experience with the iCalander export format [1] and
 MS outlook?
 
 I have two questions:
 
 1. Is there a way to get Outlook (2010) to open the import assistant
 every time a ical-file is double-clicked? This is not direclty
 related to SRF, but if you have to download the file, open outlook,
 go to file - open - import and run through a dialogue [2], you are
 faster editing the entry manually (if it's only one appointment).
 The reason why I need the import dialogue is that I need to be able
 to choose the calendar it should be imported. Otherwise outlook will
 make a whole new calendar every time I import an event.
 Or can the iCal export file be modified so that oulook wil
 automatically put it in the same calendar when double clicked?
 
 2. Is there a way to get Outlook (2010) subscribe to an calender
 provided by the iCalendar format of SRF. So there is no import
 needed, but outlook queries the SMW each time?
 This has to be possible in a closed wiki, so outlook would have to
 authenticate against the wiki. I know this has been discussed an is
 an unresolved issue. Are there programmers around who are willing to
 implement a solution to this?
 
 regards,
 Bernhard
 
 [1] http://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:ICalendar_format
 [2] http://help.unc.edu/CCM3_022163
 
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Re: [SMW-devel] Exhibit

2012-10-29 Thread Krabina Bernhard
It would be great if someone would do an exhibit 3.0 result format. I have a 
customer who would be willing to fund (part of) it...

regards,
Bernhard

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 Hey,
 
 As most of you probably know, the Exhibit result printer is currently
 rather broken and the code does not really lend itself to be
 maintained or fixed. I suggest just removing it altogether from SRF.
 
 Exhibit 3.0 was released recently [0], so it might be worthwhile to
 create a new printer from ground up for this new version. If anyone
 is interested in doing the work, I'm sure there are users that are
 willing to throw some $s at it.
 
 [0]
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/simile-widgets/melJm_A8flA
 
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[SMW-devel] SMW and PostgreSQL

2013-05-07 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear all,

I am on a project with the Vienna City Administration using SMW for the first 
time. As their strategic choice for databases is PostgreSQL (not MySQL) the 
might consider testing SMW on their environment (RedHat 6 Enterprise, 
PostgreSQL 9.1.6).

Unfortunately, I just read that the PostgreSQL support seems to be broken 
altogehter:

http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/PostgreSQL
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42659

Can anyone help us out? Does the patch work? Is the database problem something 
you can fix during installation or are more problems to be expected once you 
are running SMW? What is the reason for the broken PostgreSQL support?

As I don't think it is a good idea to do the project with SMW 1.7.1 it would be 
important to get some more insight and community support in order to get this 
working again.

What were your experiences with PostgreSQL support in earlier SMW versions?

Best regards,
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Re: [SMW-devel] Creating concepts requires create table rights

2013-06-26 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Well, sometimes it is helpful to read at least one line further in the docs :-/

When using SMWSQLStore3 (the default data store for SMW), SMW creates and 
alters temporary tables for certain semantic queries. To do this, your wikidb 
user must have privileges for CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES and DROP. The according 
features can be disabled by adding the following to Localsettings.php: 

But what does  The according features can be disabled  mean? Is it then still 
possible to create and use concepts? 

regards,
Bernhard

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 Hi,
 
 today I encountered a problem in a SMW installation in the City of
 Vienna (the first SMW installation there, by the way :-)
 
 When I created a simple concept (same one as here:
 http://standards.kdz.eu/index.php?title=Konzept:Objekt ) I recieved
 an error, because the wiki user would need create table priviledges.
 
 Is this something you are aware of/can change or some sort of bug?
 
 In the docs it says (For installation and upgrade, SMW needs the
 rights to create new tables (CREATE) and to alter tables (ALTER
 TABLE). You can remove both rights after SMW is set up.) (see:
 http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Installation )
 
 It seems that this is not true for creating concepts, but I think it
 should be...
 
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[SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps: integrating other mapping services

2013-06-26 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi Jeroen,

it seems that the development of Maps and Semantic Maps has slowed down a bit 
recently?

In my work for a first SMW installation in the City of Vienna I was asked 
whether (and how) it would be possible to use the Vienna mapping services 
instead of openlayer, google or yahoo. So we want to display data using 
maps/semantic maps on the Vienna city map.

Is there some documentation on how to add a new mapping service?

There is some documentation on how to use the Viennese GIS API: 
http://www.wien.gv.at/viennagis/bedienungshinweise/einbindung/generierter-code.html
http://www.wien.gv.at/viennagis/bedienungshinweise/einbindung/javascript.html

How good is your German yet? ;-)
Unfortunately, the English docs is quite basic: 
http://www.wien.gv.at/english/help/citymap.html

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Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps: integrating other mapping services

2013-06-26 Thread Krabina Bernhard
I found come more documentation (again in German):
http://www.wien.gv.at/viennagis/schnittstellen.html

-Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
 Hi Jeroen,
 
 it seems that the development of Maps and Semantic Maps has slowed
 down a bit recently?
 
 In my work for a first SMW installation in the City of Vienna I was
 asked whether (and how) it would be possible to use the Vienna
 mapping services instead of openlayer, google or yahoo. So we want
 to display data using maps/semantic maps on the Vienna city map.
 
 Is there some documentation on how to add a new mapping service?
 
 There is some documentation on how to use the Viennese GIS API:
 http://www.wien.gv.at/viennagis/bedienungshinweise/einbindung/generierter-code.html
 http://www.wien.gv.at/viennagis/bedienungshinweise/einbindung/javascript.html
 
 How good is your German yet? ;-)
 Unfortunately, the English docs is quite basic:
 http://www.wien.gv.at/english/help/citymap.html
 
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Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps: integrating other mapping services

2013-06-27 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi Jeroen,

 Indeed. I am not currently working on it, or planning to do so, in my
 free time.

This doesn't sound good. Do you mean it would be possible for you to put effort 
in, if it is funded? Or that you don't have time at all?

Are there other developers around that could take over/help out with 
maintenance?

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[SMW-devel] Error with SIO and SF

2013-09-12 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

I think I have encoutered a bug using Query Forms of SF in combinatio with SIO:

Here is a working query: 
http://standards.kdz.eu/index.php?title=Test:Abfrage_Bauwerk

The same query throws an exception when used in a Query Form:
http://standards.kdz.eu/index.php?title=Spezial:Abfrage_ausf%C3%BChren/Abfrage_Bauwerk
try to select Gebäude. If you also enter 9 in Bezirk the following 
exception is thrown:

Illegal property key -Adressen.Bezirk.

Backtrace:

#0 
/home/kdz/standards/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/dataitems/SMW_DI_Property.php(272):
 SMWDIProperty-__construct('-Adressen.Bezir...', false)
#1 
/home/kdz/standards/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_TemplateField.php(75): 
SMWDIProperty::newFromUserLabel('-Adressen.Bezir...')
#2 
/home/kdz/standards/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_TemplateField.php(105):
 SFTemplateField-setTypeAndPossibleValues()
#3 
/home/kdz/standards/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_TemplateField.php(28): 
SFTemplateField-setSemanticProperty('-Adressen.Bezir...')
#4 
/home/kdz/standards/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_TemplateInForm.php(22):
 SFTemplateField::create('Bezirk', 'Bezirk', '-Adressen.Bezir...', false)
#5 
/home/kdz/standards/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_TemplateInForm.php(74):
 SFTemplateInForm-handlePropertySettingInTemplate('Bezirk', 
'-Adressen.Bezir...', false, Array, '??{{#ask: {{#if...')
#6 
/home/kdz/standards/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_TemplateInForm.php(136):
 SFTemplateInForm-getAllFields()
#7 
/home/kdz/standards/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormPrinter.php(518): 
SFTemplateInForm::create('Abfrage Bauwerk')
#8 /home/kdz/standards/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_RunQuery.php(79): 
SFFormPrinter-formHTML('noinclude??{{...', true, false, 346, NULL, NULL, 
NULL, true, false)
#9 /home/kdz/standards/extensions/SemanticForms/specials/SF_RunQuery.php(30): 
SFRunQuery-printPage('Abfrage_Bauwerk', false)
#10 /home/kdz/standards/includes/SpecialPage.php(611): 
SFRunQuery-execute('Abfrage_Bauwerk')
#11 /home/kdz/standards/includes/SpecialPageFactory.php(494): 
SpecialPage-run('Abfrage_Bauwerk')
#12 /home/kdz/standards/includes/Wiki.php(290): 
SpecialPageFactory::executePath(Object(Title), Object(RequestContext))
#13 /home/kdz/standards/includes/Wiki.php(536): MediaWiki-performRequest()
#14 /home/kdz/standards/includes/Wiki.php(446): MediaWiki-main()
#15 /home/kdz/standards/index.php(59): MediaWiki-run()
#16 {main}


Here ist the template: 
http://standards.kdz.eu/index.php?title=Vorlage:Abfrage_Bauwerk
and the form: http://standards.kdz.eu/index.php?title=Formular:Abfrage_Bauwer

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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] SMWCon Fall 2013 - the program is published, the conference is sold out!

2013-10-31 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear all,

it was a pleasure being part of the SMWCon in Berlin. Thank you Yury, Karsten, 
Markus and all others who made this terrific conference possible. It was nice 
to finally meet so many of you in person. 

Also, thanks again to all the gifted developers, coders, hackers, community 
organizers, testers, documenters, evangelists, consultants etc. wo make SMW 
what it is: a great tool with a huge future potential.

Let's keep up the good work and I hope to see many of you next year (hopefully 
in Vienna :-)

Best regards,
Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
 Hi everyone!
 First of all, here is the program:
 
 http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2013/Tutorial_day
 http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2013/Conference_days
 
 We expected 40-50 people to come to the conference and got 85! There
 is no tickets left. If you're not lucky this year and won't be able
 to
 participate in the conference, feel free to ask questions to the
 speakers right now and wait for the streaming and recording! We will
 publish the link to an online streaming several days before the event
 so that you'll be able to watch the conference from your homes.
 
 I'm sure that right now our presenters are preparing for their talks.
 If you got interested in some particular topic and you want the
 speaker to highlight some specific details about it - you have the
 unique chance to ask the speaker before the presentation begin! To do
 that, go to the discussion page of the talk and ask your questions.
 
 Finally here are some talks that I've found most exiting:
 
 -
 http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2013/Semantic_MediaWiki_and_Neuroscience_Data_-_A_Blue_Brain_Perspectiv
 Martin Telefont will give a talk about using SMW for BlueBrain
 project. It's actually very famous project in which they model the
 neo-cortex of the human brain all the way down to the molecular
 level.
 Martin will talk about how they're trying to apply crowdsourcing
 principles and SMW-based tools.
 --
 http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2013/DBpedia_Mappings_wiki
 Anja will talk about DBpedia - the biggest knowledgebase in Linked
 Data. DBpedia itself is awesome and is used for linguistic, open
 government and recearch, but Anja will concentrate on the
 Mappings.Dbpedia - a tool for adjusting DBpedia parsers. You can
 visit
 mappings.dbpedia.org and have a look at the tool itself.
 
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 are the tools that generate the structure of your wiki and help you
 to
 forget the syntax of Templates and Forms! During the tutorial day and
 the conference Yaron, Michael, Erwin and Lloyd will show you these
 tools in action.
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 We have a lot more scientific, business-oriented and technical talks.
 I'm sure that it's going to be the best SMWCon ever!
 
 See you in Berlin!
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] SMWCon Fall 2013 - the program is published, the conference is sold out!

2013-10-31 Thread Krabina Bernhard
oops, sorry, Benedikt!!

And yes, thumbs up for the Sponsors!

- Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
 Dear Bernhard,
 
 thank you for your feedback to the conference which I believe is
 greatly
 appreciated by all mentioned. We should definitely not forget to name
 and thank Benedikt for his great effort and success as the General
 Chair
 of this SMWCon.
 
 As a member of the organisation team I would like to thank Wikimedia
 Deutschland and Open Semantic Data Association for their support and
 help as well as all the participants and contributors to the
 conference
 for making it enjoyable and prolific, among them also our sponsors
 [1].
 
 Cheers Karsten
 
 [1] https://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2013#Sponsors
 
 Am 31.10.2013 08:31, schrieb Krabina Bernhard:
  Dear all,
 
  it was a pleasure being part of the SMWCon in Berlin. Thank you
  Yury, Karsten, Markus and all others who made this terrific
  conference possible. It was nice to finally meet so many of you in
  person.
 
  Also, thanks again to all the gifted developers, coders, hackers,
  community organizers, testers, documenters, evangelists,
  consultants etc. wo make SMW what it is: a great tool with a huge
  future potential.
 
  Let's keep up the good work and I hope to see many of you next year
  (hopefully in Vienna :-)
 
  Best regards,
  Bernhard
 
  - Ursprüngliche Mail -
  Hi everyone!
  First of all, here is the program:
 
  http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2013/Tutorial_day
  http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2013/Conference_days
 
  We expected 40-50 people to come to the conference and got 85!
  There
  is no tickets left. If you're not lucky this year and won't be
  able
  to
  participate in the conference, feel free to ask questions to the
  speakers right now and wait for the streaming and recording! We
  will
  publish the link to an online streaming several days before the
  event
  so that you'll be able to watch the conference from your homes.
 
  I'm sure that right now our presenters are preparing for their
  talks.
  If you got interested in some particular topic and you want the
  speaker to highlight some specific details about it - you have the
  unique chance to ask the speaker before the presentation begin! To
  do
  that, go to the discussion page of the talk and ask your
  questions.
 
  Finally here are some talks that I've found most exiting:
 
  -
  http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2013/Semantic_MediaWiki_and_Neuroscience_Data_-_A_Blue_Brain_Perspectiv
  Martin Telefont will give a talk about using SMW for BlueBrain
  project. It's actually very famous project in which they model the
  neo-cortex of the human brain all the way down to the molecular
  level.
  Martin will talk about how they're trying to apply crowdsourcing
  principles and SMW-based tools.
  --
  http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2013/DBpedia_Mappings_wiki
  Anja will talk about DBpedia - the biggest knowledgebase in Linked
  Data. DBpedia itself is awesome and is used for linguistic, open
  government and recearch, but Anja will concentrate on the
  Mappings.Dbpedia - a tool for adjusting DBpedia parsers. You can
  visit
  mappings.dbpedia.org and have a look at the tool itself.
 
  --
  http://goo.gl/kMaE7d , http://goo.gl/Js2yWB, http://goo.gl/Q86KSL
  SmartCore, OWL Wiki Forms, Automatic Semantic Forms and
  PageSchemas
  are the tools that generate the structure of your wiki and help
  you
  to
  forget the syntax of Templates and Forms! During the tutorial day
  and
  the conference Yaron, Michael, Erwin and Lloyd will show you these
  tools in action.
  --
 
  We have a lot more scientific, business-oriented and technical
  talks.
  I'm sure that it's going to be the best SMWCon ever!
 
  See you in Berlin!
  -
  Yury Katkov, Program Chair
 
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[SMW-devel] Parser Functions mentor needed - date parsing

2013-11-11 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear all,

I made a Google Code-In task proposal about
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56547 and added it to
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-in#Code !

Now we need a mentor for this. As I am not a developer, I cannot be a (good) 
mentor for this. Is anybody interested? This task is not really SMW related and 
the task is quite easy from a developer's point of view. So anybody could 
volunteer with a knoledge about MediaWiki in general, no specific SMW know-how 
is needed.

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-in#Become_a_Wikimedia_GCI_mentor
describes the steps how to register as a mentor in Google Melange.

Best regards,
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[SMW-devel] SMW integration in other tools

2013-11-11 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

as great as SMW is by itself, I'd like to hear your thoughts or experiences 
regarding integration in or collaboration with other tools.

In some cases, SMW can be a real competitor to other bigger solutions, in 
other it might not have a chance to compete. Many other tools offer wikis as 
well and we know, how poor they perform compared to SMW. So the question is, 
how could an integration of SMW be done? With what other tools? What would be 
feasible and what not?

Let me share my first thoughts:

Microsoft Sharepoint

* focus: portal/document management
* SMW replacing the internal wiki

Liferay
---
* focus: enterprise portal
* SMW replacing the internal wiki
* 
http://www.liferay.com/de/documentation/liferay-portal/6.2/user-guide/-/ai/working-together-with-the-wiki-liferay-portal-6-2-user-guide-08-en
* http://www.liferay.com/de/community/wiki/-/wiki/Main/Wiki+Portlet
* the wiki is completely integrated with Liferay’s user management, tagging, 
and security features.
* Java-based

Alfresco

* focus: document management
* SMW replacing the internal wiki
* Java-based
* PHP Api

Drupal
---
* focus: web cms
* usecase unclear...
* PHP based!

Zimbra/Zarafa/OpenText..
---
* focus: groupware
* SMW adding wiki to the groupware, importing/exporting content (LDAP, vcard, 
ical)...

others?

-Bernhard

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[SMW-devel] SMW meetup group Austria

2013-11-18 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear all,

I just set up a meetup group for SMW enthusiasts in Austra:
http://www.meetup.com/Semantic-MediaWiki-Osterreich/

Everybody who is interested in SMW, MediaWiki and related extensions is welcome 
to join in. The group will be in German language and seeks for people in 
Austria.

Programmers, users, consulters, site-admins etc

regards,
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Re: [SMW-devel] Offline Semantic Forms

2013-11-22 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi Benedikt,

I think your use case is VERY interesting. Are you aware of the Push extension 
[1]? I havent't used it yet, but it sounds promising. 

But having some kind of other possibility to solve your usecase would be quite 
intersting.

-Bernhard

[1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Push

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
 Hello Yaron, Hello Semantic forms experts,
 
 In our medical project I talked about at SMWCon [1], we have the
 following requirement:
 
 * We create a full-fledged form for annotating patients in an online
 SMW.
 
 * Physicians want to reuse that form to offline fill in the form for
 patients. Offline, since patient data should not be stored in the
 online
 SMW.
 
 * After a form has been filled in, its contents are not fixed.
 Physicians may want to modify the content at a later stage.
 
 * An RDF export of the filled-in form should be possible to be
 created
 to be stored in a secure FTP server.
 
 The only way we currently see is to have for the physicians separate
 offline versions of SMW with the imported template, form pages. But
 this
 seems to require a lot of effort in synchronising the online and
 offline
 SMW.
 
 Thus, we are wondering whether it would be possible to somehow export
 an
 full-fledged offline version of a form.
 
 I'm thinking of making this a seminar topic for one of our students.
 
 Any help on this would be greatly appreciated, e.g.,
 
 * What is your opinion about this use case?
 * Are there implementations one could somehow build on?
 * How difficult does it seem?
 
 All the best,
 
 Benedikt
 
 [1]
 http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2013/Challenges_with_Annotating_Liver_Patient_Data_for_Cognition-Guided_Surgery
 
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Re: [SMW-devel] Offline Semantic Forms

2013-12-04 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi Benedikt,

ontoprise had a great SMW on a stick installation on a semantic web conference 
years ago. So you might want to ask Michael?

regards,
Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
 Hello,
 
 We now investigate the possibility to have SMW-on-a-stick. Then,
 physicians could just start via an .exe file their own version of the
 online SMW, locally. They can annotate patients and upload RDF
 exports
 to the file server.
 
 Thanks again for your thoughts.
 
 Any advice on getting SMW-on-a-stick and possibly optimising
 performance would be appreciated.
 
 All the best,
 
 Benedikt
 
 On 11/27/2013 06:57 PM, Benedikt Kämpgen wrote:
  Hi Yaron,
 
  Thanks for your thoughts.
 
 really just mean private? It sounds like what you're talking
 about
 
  Private and offline in a sense that the form should be filled in
  without
  an internet connection.
 
 And if that's the case, maybe the easiest solution is just to
 have a 2nd
 wiki, with much more restricted viewing?
 
  Yes, but that would basically mean in our context to have a second
  SMW
  installed on a local machine (without internet connection) for the
  physicians. I was hoping to find an easier way to forward a form
  from
  SMW to someone else.
 
  After a form has been filled in, we somehow need to extract the RDF
  from
  it to be stored (securely) in our knowledge base (FTP server). But
  I
  guess, this is another problem.
 
  Best,
 
  Benedikt
 
  On 11/26/2013 05:30 PM, Yaron Koren wrote:
  Hi Benedikt,
 
  It could be that there's some wording confusion: by offline, did
  you
  really just mean private? It sounds like what you're talking
  about is
  people submitting data, via the internet/web, that then gets put
  into an
  external server - only one that requires a password to access; as
  opposed to the usual meaning of offline, meaning something that
  people
  can do locally on their computer, without any network connection.
 
  And if that's the case, maybe the easiest solution is just to have
  a 2nd
  wiki, with much more restricted viewing?
 
  -Yaron
 
 
  On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Benedikt Kämpgen
  benedikt.kaemp...@kit.edu mailto:benedikt.kaemp...@kit.edu
  wrote:
 
   Hi,
 
   Bernhard, Yury, Yaron, Neill, thanks for your answers.
 
   @Bernhardt: the Push extension is interesting, but probably
   will not
   help, here, since no information shall be pushed to the
   online wiki.
 
   @Yury: One important requirement is to have elaborate forms
   (dropdown, etc.) and a flexible form design. Not sure whether
   Miga
   could be easily extended towards this use case.
 
   @Yaron:
 
 
 - Would the offline form be just a copy of an online form?
 If so,
 doesn't that mean that sensitive patient data *can* get
 put on
   the wiki?
 
   Ideally, the offline form would provide the same
   functionality
   (e.g., autocompletion) than the online form. However, an
   offline
   filled-in form will never be stored on SMW but rather be put
   as-is
   on a secure file server.
 
   The question is, whether as-is actually is possible.
   Apparently,
   we are looking for some kind of JavaScript library that
   allows to
   offline modify an HTML page with forms and to save the
   modified HTML
   page.
 
 
 - If a physician stores data offline, can other physicians
 ever
   view it?
 
   The current plan is: After offline filling-in a form, the
   filled-in
   form will be put on a secure file server. From there it can
   be
   downloaded for viewing.
 
 
 - Where would the data be stored - on a single device?
 
   Ideally, the offline form could be used on various
   workstations.
   When an offline form has been filled in, it is uploaded on a
   single
   secure file server.
 
 
 - Would each set of offline data have its own RDF export?
 
   That is the crucial point and the reason for using SMW in the
   first
   place. The online SMW is used to define properties for
   patients
   (e.g., has BMI). An offline form shall now be used to fill
   in all
   properties for a patient. An RDF export of the offline form
   shall
   use the same properties as introduced by the online form.
   This way,
   we have a unique relationship between properties as defined
   by the
   online SMW and filled-in properties for a patient in an
   offline
   form. Ideally, an RDF export from an offline form would
   create the
   same RDF that would have been created if the form would have
   been
   filled-in in the online SMW.
 
   Maybe, the RDF export of the offline SMW could also be
   implemented
   using RDFa.
 
 
 - How would the RDF data be queried, if it requires FTP to
 access?
 
   The RDF data would be 

[SMW-devel] Horizon 2020

2013-12-11 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear all,

the European Commission just released a first call in the new Horizon 2020 
funding scheme: Topic: ICT-enabled open government

http://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/portal/desktop/en/opportunities/h2020/topics/2469-inso-1-2014.html#tab1

There could be something in for SMW-based solutions. 

US and Russion organizations will not be fundable, but everything inside the EU 
and many developing countries: 
http://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/data/ref/h2020/wp/2014_2015/annexes/h2020-wp1415-annex-a-countries-rules_en.pdf

Anybody interested?

-Bernhard


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[SMW-devel] Annotating in SMW

2013-12-16 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear all,

I just want to draw your attention to an interesting feature currently missing 
in MW/SMW: the ability to easily annotate a (wiki) document. There are lots of 
usecases for this and there are some first results. The interesting thing of 
course would be to make annotations semantic and therfore queryable! 

If anyone is interested, please look here:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Annotator

(I'm not in any way involved in this, I just stumbled across it and thought 
it's very interesting).

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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Annotating in SMW

2013-12-17 Thread Krabina Bernhard
hmm. short answer: 

As WikiMediaLabs is doing this: http://annotator.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lorem_ipsum 
it is probably going to be available in MW installations. Therfore it makes 
sense to have some semantification of it (and yes, general semantification is 
an interesting topic, the special semantic properties go in this right 
direction)

long anwer:
Sometimes I have the feeling that SMW users and devs still have the semantic 
encyclopedia in mind. My use cases are far more off this track. SMW has it's 
clear strenghts, but for some features, others put up very quick and sometimes 
very nice features. e.g. 
http://annotateit.org/
http://etherpad.org/

There are many use cases for this and of cource, then the easiest solution is 
to use these pieces of software. But if you look at this page 
https://github.com/okfn/annotator/wiki you can see a lot of plugins already 
available for systems like Drupal. As great as wikis are in general for many 
many use cases, for some things there are simpler solutions. to have these 
possibilities integrated in the SMW ecosystems seems a worthwile effort.

concrete use case i was thinking of: a city releasing agenda items, protocols, 
decisions, regulacitons etc. of municipal council meetings on a wiki. the 
general public should not be able to edit these, but annotate them (and rate 
them).

regards,
Bernhard


- Ursprüngliche Mail -
 
 Hi Yaron!
 
 
 I'm in favor in semantifying everything but here I'd agree with you -
 I don't yet see the usecase where it would be useful to have
 semantified inline comments. Or any comments and discussions, for
 that matter.
 
 
 -
 Yury Katkov, WikiVote
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Yaron Koren  ya...@wikiworks.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Bernhard,
 
 
 This seems like a case of the when you have a hammer, everything
 looks like a nail principle. :) If the extension used - whether
 it's Annotator or anything else - is keeping annotation information,
 it's presumably using one or more of its own database tables to do
 that. And so the most logical place to put tools to query and
 display that information would be in that extension itself, not via
 SMW. You could make the case for a Semantic Annotator extension
 that stores the text directly via SMW, but I don't see the benefit
 in that. The use cases you present are all (not surprisingly)
 self-contained - there's nothing like show, in a table, all
 annotations for pages about cars from before 1950. So I don't see
 much synergy in being able to query everything together.
 
 
 This starts to get into the larger question of whether SMW should be
 able to query any wiki-related data - the so-called
 semantification concept - but I would think if we're going to have
 that discussion, we should have that larger discussion, and not tie
 it to this particular feature.
 
 
 -Yaron
 
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Krabina Bernhard  krab...@kdz.or.at
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 Great, I didn't know about MashaJS. Is there a test wiki around. In
 the discussion there is a hint that it does not work with
 HeaderTabs...
 
 
  Which use cases do you have in mind that involved queryable inline
  comments?
 
 There can be reasons, where
 
 a) I want to have an overview of remarks that users made and the talk
 page and/or version history is too cumbersome, because you have to
 switch around all the time. If you want to ask users for comments on
 a text, a regular wiki is not very usable. annotations are great
 here.
 b) users don't want to/dare to/should not edit the text itself, but
 still should have to possibility to add/enhance/comment on the text
 
 It would be great to have features like:
 * show only annotations of user X on the page
 * show the text with annotations of users X and Y, but not from Z
 * show the users with most annotations
 ...
 
 regards,
 Bernhard
 
 
 - Ursprüngliche Mail -
 
 
 
 
  
  Hi Bernhard!
  Nice extension, reminds me of MashaJS:
  http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MashaJS
  
  
  Which use cases do you have in mind that involved queryable inline
  comments?
  
  
  -
  Yury Katkov, WikiVote
  
  
  
  
  On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Krabina Bernhard 
  krab...@kdz.or.at  wrote:
  
  
  Dear all,
  
  I just want to draw your attention to an interesting feature
  currently missing in MW/SMW: the ability to easily annotate a
  (wiki)
  document. There are lots of usecases for this and there are some
  first results. The interesting thing of course would be to make
  annotations semantic and therfore queryable!
  
  If anyone is interested, please look here:
  http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Annotator
  
  (I'm not in any way involved in this, I just stumbled across it and
  thought it's very interesting).
  
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Annotating in SMW

2013-12-18 Thread Krabina Bernhard
 Bernhard - you've made a good case for having annotator functionality
 within MediaWiki. What you haven't really made a good case for is
 being able to query that annotation info using SMW, which is the
 relevant thing here.

You got me there, I agree with you, Yaron. But hey, this is a discussion list 
and many of the innovative MW extensions are rooted here, so maybe someone else 
has better/additional ideas...

:-)

(ask for all pages in category X with Y annotations. ask for all pages in 
category X with Z annotators)

regards,
Bernhard 

 
 On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Krabina Bernhard 
 krab...@kdz.or.at  wrote:
 
 
 hmm. short answer:
 
 As WikiMediaLabs is doing this:
 http://annotator.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lorem_ipsum it is probably going
 to be available in MW installations. Therfore it makes sense to have
 some semantification of it (and yes, general semantification is an
 interesting topic, the special semantic properties go in this right
 direction)
 
 long anwer:
 Sometimes I have the feeling that SMW users and devs still have the
 semantic encyclopedia in mind. My use cases are far more off this
 track. SMW has it's clear strenghts, but for some features, others
 put up very quick and sometimes very nice features. e.g.
 http://annotateit.org/
 http://etherpad.org/
 
 There are many use cases for this and of cource, then the easiest
 solution is to use these pieces of software. But if you look at this
 page https://github.com/okfn/annotator/wiki you can see a lot of
 plugins already available for systems like Drupal. As great as wikis
 are in general for many many use cases, for some things there are
 simpler solutions. to have these possibilities integrated in the SMW
 ecosystems seems a worthwile effort.
 
 concrete use case i was thinking of: a city releasing agenda items,
 protocols, decisions, regulacitons etc. of municipal council
 meetings on a wiki. the general public should not be able to edit
 these, but annotate them (and rate them).
 
 
 
 regards,
 Bernhard
 
 
 - Ursprüngliche Mail -
  
  Hi Yaron!
  
  
  I'm in favor in semantifying everything but here I'd agree with you
  -
  I don't yet see the usecase where it would be useful to have
  semantified inline comments. Or any comments and discussions, for
  that matter.
  
  
  -
  Yury Katkov, WikiVote
  
  
  
  
  On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Yaron Koren  ya...@wikiworks.com
  
  wrote:
  
  
  
  Hi Bernhard,
  
  
  This seems like a case of the when you have a hammer, everything
  looks like a nail principle. :) If the extension used - whether
  it's Annotator or anything else - is keeping annotation
  information,
  it's presumably using one or more of its own database tables to do
  that. And so the most logical place to put tools to query and
  display that information would be in that extension itself, not via
  SMW. You could make the case for a Semantic Annotator extension
  that stores the text directly via SMW, but I don't see the benefit
  in that. The use cases you present are all (not surprisingly)
  self-contained - there's nothing like show, in a table, all
  annotations for pages about cars from before 1950. So I don't see
  much synergy in being able to query everything together.
  
  
  This starts to get into the larger question of whether SMW should
  be
  able to query any wiki-related data - the so-called
  semantification concept - but I would think if we're going to
  have
  that discussion, we should have that larger discussion, and not tie
  it to this particular feature.
  
  
  -Yaron
  
  
  
  
  
  On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Krabina Bernhard 
  krab...@kdz.or.at
   wrote:
  
  
  
  
  Great, I didn't know about MashaJS. Is there a test wiki around. In
  the discussion there is a hint that it does not work with
  HeaderTabs...
  
  
   Which use cases do you have in mind that involved queryable
   inline
   comments?
  
  There can be reasons, where
  
  a) I want to have an overview of remarks that users made and the
  talk
  page and/or version history is too cumbersome, because you have to
  switch around all the time. If you want to ask users for comments
  on
  a text, a regular wiki is not very usable. annotations are great
  here.
  b) users don't want to/dare to/should not edit the text itself, but
  still should have to possibility to add/enhance/comment on the text
  
  It would be great to have features like:
  * show only annotations of user X on the page
  * show the text with annotations of users X and Y, but not from Z
  * show the users with most annotations
  ...
  
  regards,
  Bernhard
  
  
  - Ursprüngliche Mail -
  
  
  
  
   
   Hi Bernhard!
   Nice extension, reminds me of MashaJS:
   http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MashaJS
   
   
   Which use cases do you have in mind that involved queryable
   inline
   comments?
   
   
   -
   Yury Katkov, WikiVote
   
   
   
   
   On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Krabina Bernhard

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW 2.0 or 10.0?

2014-01-20 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

a piece of software that has been around sind 2006 in now the ninth major 
version, should really not be called 2.0. So my vote goes to 10.0 - this much 
more indicates the maturity of SMW!

Cheers,
Bernhard

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 It seems there is general agreement on having the next big SMW release have a
 semver.org complaint version number.
 
 However there are two options that have been proposed and both work: 2.0 and
 10.0. The former one increments the first number, changing it from the
 meaningless 1 at the front to be the actual MAJOR version. The later drops
 the meaningless 1, shifting the current actual MAJOR version 9 to its
 correct location, and then incrementing it as should be done with each new
 major release.
 
 I'm fine with both, though need to make some decision. So please indicate
 your preference.
 
 So far we have 1 point for 10.0 from Markus and 1 point for 2.0 from Yaron.
 
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[SMW-devel] Fwd: [Mediawiki-enterprise] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] GSoC proposal Frontend for Vector skin CSS customizations (Ioannis Protonotarios)

2014-03-27 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

slightly off-topic, becaus not 100% related to SMW, but still: many SMW 
installations have a skinning problem, so I'd really appreaciate if a mentor 
for this idea could step up...

regards,
Bernhard


- Weitergeleitete Mail -
Von: Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org
An: mediawiki-enterpr...@lists.wikimedia.org
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. März 2014 19:46:24
Betreff: [Mediawiki-enterprise] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] GSoC proposal Frontend for 
Vector skin CSS customizations (Ioannis Protonotarios)

Hi, this project is geared towards third party MediaWikis, and this is why it 
is becoming more difficult for us to find a mentor among the usual suspects 
(WMF employees, usually focusing in features relevant to Wikimedia projects). 
If anybody here familiar with development of extensions wants to volunteer as 
mentor, let me know. Questons? Just ask. 

It is urgent -- see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014 

Thank you. 

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From: Quim Gil  q...@wikimedia.org  
Date: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 
Subject: [Wikitech-l] GSoC proposal Frontend for Vector skin CSS 
customizations (Ioannis Protonotarios) 
To: Wikimedia developers  wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org  


Hi, we are still welcoming mentors for this interesting proposal 

On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Ιωάννης Πρωτονοτάριος  
ioan...@protonotarios.eu  wrote: 
 My proposal is the creation of a frontend that will help users with little 
 or no experience at all to easily produce all the CSS needed to change their 
 wiki's layout. 
 
 Full proposal wiki page: 

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Protnet/Frontend_for_Vector_skin_CSS_customizations
 

The implementation proposed consists in MediaWiki extension depending on the 
Vector skin. The plan sounds sensible and fitting with the discssion of finding 
ways for 3rd party MediaWikis to differentiate from plain MediaWiki and 
Wikimedia sites. The proposal also shows a good amount of original thought and 
work. 

We *might* get a secondary mentor from the WMF Design team to support the UI 
work and also the possibilities of CSS customization options that MediaWiki 
admins might be interested about. We miss a developer familiar with MediaWiki 
extension developer. I'm not an expert, but this extension looks relatively 
simple in terms of backend? It is an interface to manipulate 
MediaWiki:Common.css. 

Ideas for related bugs that can be assigned to Ioannis as microtasks are also 
welcome. Just name existing bug reports requiring skills relevant to this 
project. 

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[SMW-devel] Wikimania 2014

2014-03-28 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

does anybody plan to submit a SMW-related proposal to the Wikimania 2014?

I do and I'm happy to team up with SMW evangelits ;-) 

Deadline is on Monday!  https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions

regards,
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Wikimania 2014

2014-03-28 Thread Krabina Bernhard
speaking of deadlines: 

this weekend is also deadline for submitting to the OKFestival 
http://2014.okfestival.org/programme/propose-a-session/

there should be a SMW-related presentation as well. How about the German 
community!?! (I will probably not be able to make it...)

regareds,
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[SMW-devel] semantic-mediawiki.org is down

2014-05-07 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

semantic-mediawiki.org seens to be down...

regards,
Bernhard

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[SMW-devel] data packages

2014-08-09 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

at wikimedia 2014, Rufus Pollock of OKFN presented this: 
http://data.okfn.org/doc/data-package

My questions to you SMW wizards is now
1) how could SMW support this? An enhancement of the JSON export format? 
2) why to they not use RDF for this? What are the benefits of this approch in 
contrast to RDF?

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[SMW-devel] Vienna History Wiki online

2014-09-11 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear SMW Community,

I am very proud to present my latest (and by far biggest) SMW projet so far: 
the Vienna History Wiki:
https://www.wien.gv.at/wiki/index.php/Vienna_History_Wiki

Thank you all for your great work on SMW and keep it up!

regards,
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[SMW-devel] MediaWiki Job queue problem

2014-09-24 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear SMW users,

this might not be a directly SMW related question, but maybe some of you have 
experience with the job queue and job table?

In the Vienna History wiki, jobs do not get done when running runJobs.php. The 
Job table shows that the jobs currently in the queue are locked: there are 
entries in the row job_token which results in the jobs not being done by the 
script.

How can I know why and what locked these jobs, how to unlock them or what else 
to do?

There have been 12400 jobs sitting around for a week: 
https://www.wien.gv.at/wiki/api.php?action=querymeta=siteinfosiprop=statisticsformat=jsonfm
Suddenly, without anybody knowing why, ~ 5000 have been done, but  7000 are 
still sitting there

showJobs.php always shows 0 and runJobs.php executes without error and 
without doing anything.

regards,
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] MediaWiki Job queue problem

2014-09-25 Thread Krabina Bernhard
our problem is not only that we cannot get the hanging jobs to run, but that 
even new jobs being created (by changing a template or CSV import with data 
transfer) will not run

regards,
Bernhard

- Ursprüngliche Mail -
 I had the same issue a while ago after I restored a database.
 I figured it was because when I ran the backup there where jobs in the queue
 and after the restore they kept running over and over and etc.
 
 I ran another backup from my production database after I cleared the runjobs,
 and this worked out fine after.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Montalvo [mailto:jamesmontal...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:55 PM
 To: Daren Welsh
 Cc: Semantic MediaWiki developers; Yaron Koren; Semantic MediaWiki users
 Subject: Re: [Semediawiki-user] [SMW-devel] MediaWiki Job queue problem
 
 Daren and I work together, so we have the same issue. One thing to add: Run
 jobs never finishes. Those stuck jobs just keep repeating over and over.
 
 On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Daren Welsh darenwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I have executed runJobs several times and the job_attempts remains at
  1 for those five jobs. We were thinking of doing a database backup
  today, then delete those five jobs from the table, then run the SMW
  repair and upgrade via the admin special page.
 
  Even if this clears the job queue, we'd like to understand what caused
  this in the first place. I realize that's a very open-ended question
  :)
 
  Daren
 
 
  On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:30 PM, James HK
  jamesin.hongkon...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
   We currently have five jobs that are stuck. All of them have 1
   for job_attempts.
  
   One has job_cmd of refreshLinks in job namespace 10 and it is for a
   template page.
   The other four have job_cmd of SMW\UpdateJob in job namespace 0 and
   are
  for
   standard pages. These pages do not seem to be related based on
  category
   or template.
 
  Just to make sure that I interpret the meaning of stuck correctly,
  after finishing `runJobs` those four jobs (five with the
  `refreshLinks` jobs) are still visible in the job table with an
  job_attempts of 1. When running `runJobs` again the same four
  `SMW\UpdateJob` (same as in the same title and same Id) jobs are
  executed and increment the job_attempts to 2?
 
  If you empty the job table and execute `runJobs` does the same five
  jobs appear again after the run with job_attempts = 1?
 
  Cheers
 
  On 9/25/14, Daren Welsh darenwe...@gmail.com wrote:
   We currently have five jobs that are stuck. All of them have 1
   for job_attempts.
  
   One has job_cmd of refreshLinks in job namespace 10 and it is for a
   template page.
   The other four have job_cmd of SMW\UpdateJob in job namespace 0 and
   are
  for
   standard pages. These pages do not seem to be related based on
  category
   or template.
  
   On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 3:37 PM, James HK
   jamesin.hongkon...@gmail.com
  
   wrote:
  
   Hi,
  
runJobs.php will literally run forever. After the non-offending
jobs are cleared it's easy to see which are the offenders. Thus
far I think
  all
offenders have been of type SMW::UpdateJob.
  
   I don't think the problem is with the `SMW\UpdateJob` because it
   does a simple shallow update of the store while the management
   of job status (including how many attempts, id's etc.) are done by
   the MW JobQueue (which has first change in 1.22 and then again in
   1.23).
  
   It does beg the question whether all `SMW\UpdateJob`'s are stuck
   or only certain jobs belonging to a group of pages or single page?
  
runJobs.php, but for some reason they keep attempting to run
over and
   over.
  
   How do you know that the same job is run over and over again
   because based and above discussion (job_attempts) a job with too
   many attempts is retired after some time.
  
   If the same job is run over and over again, what is displayed for
   the job_attempts counter?
  
   [0] went into SMW 2.0 to counteract any possible job duplicates
   for the same `root title`.
  
   [0]
   https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/pull/307
  
   Cheers
  
   On 9/25/14, James Montalvo jamesmontal...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure if this is related, but on my wiki I'm occasionally
getting stuck jobs. I've only noticed this since upgrading to
MW 1.23 and
  SMW
   2.0
from 1.22/1.8.0.5.
   
What I mean by stuck is that the jobs don't get executed when
I do runJobs.php, but for some reason they keep attempting to
run over and
   over.
runJobs.php will literally run forever. After the non-offending
jobs are cleared it's easy to see which are the offenders. Thus
far I think
  all
offenders have been of type SMW::UpdateJob.
   
Is there some way to debug runJobs.php so I can provide better info?
   
--James
On Sep 24, 2014 10:55 AM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote:
   
I certainly hope so too 

[SMW-devel] next week is SMWCon 2014 in Vienna!

2014-09-25 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear all,

next week SMWCon in Vienna starts!

We have a great program: https://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2014

Please don't forget to buy a ticket for the conference in case you haven't 
already:
http://de.amiando.com/SMWCon2014.html

We are looking forward to your contributions and attendance. See you in Vienna!

best regards,
Bernhard

P.S: we will videotape the event as usual, but there will be no 
live-streaming...

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[SMW-devel] SMWCon Fall 2014 in Vienna documentation and videos

2014-10-10 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear all,

the conference website now includes all the documentation including slides and 
videos: https://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2014

For a quicker view, you can use
* https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLv4ZNIEr6SqWjHJvegO9uLze1d7yy0jpk
* http://de.slideshare.net/KDZ_Austria/

A special thank you goes out to our sponsors who made this event possible:
https://gesinn.it
http://www.xl-knowledge.com
http://www.cenarion.com
https://energypedia.info
http://www.staedtebund.gv.at
http://www.zit.co.at

And thank you to the organising team:
http://www.kdz.or.at/
http://www.wien.gv.at/english/history/archives/
http://www.wikimedia.at/
http://www.okfn.at/
as well as to Franz Borrmann for being Program Chair: http://www.ius-online.eu

Hope to see you at the next SMWCons!

Best regards,
Bernhard

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Re: [SMW-devel] Import CSV

2014-10-14 Thread Krabina Bernhard
hm. if you can edit the page this means it was imported correctly (you also can 
check the latest changes). the edit with form tab usually shows up when you 
define a form for a category page. are the imported pages in the correct 
category and does this category have the property has default form set?

if there is an edit with form tab and you can't see content in the form then 
the page content is usually visible in the free text area. this would mean that 
the import worked, but somehow the form doesn't recognise the call of the 
template. can you paste the content of an imported page and one of a normal 
page that was done with the form, so we can compare?

cheers,
Bernhard

- Am 14. Okt 2014 um 20:42 schrieb Phillip Legault plega...@its.jnj.com:

 I'm trying to import data from csv file under special pages.
 The import looks good however when I check edit with form nothing is there,
 under the edit section everything was imported.
 
 
 
 Thank you
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] New (S)MW-based site that might be of interest

2014-10-30 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi Markus,

you must be kidding! It looks fantastic! This is an awesome example of where 
(S)MW skinning must be directed to. Please make as much of it open as you can. 
Definitely, semantic-mediawiki.org should look somewhat like that.

Great work, Markus!

Should definitely one of the wikis of the month...

cheers,
Bernhard

- Am 29. Okt 2014 um 19:03 schrieb markus mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org:

 Hi all,
 
 I just finished work on a new website for my research group (and maybe
 others). The site might be of interest, since it showcases quite a few
 techniques in terms of skinning, customization, and SMW-usage:
 
 https://ddll.inf.tu-dresden.de/
 
 The main things to watch out for:
 
 * Chameleon skin with extensive use of Bootstrap layouts. I have written
 several MW extensions to add more Bootstrap goodness to MW (esp. the
 carousel at the start page, and the tabs you see in many places, but
 also the affix second-from-top navigation bar that part-collapses on
 small screens).
 * Full-fledged dual-language MediaWiki. You can switch languages at the
 top. I wrote quite a few hooks to make sure that pages switch
 completely: navigation, main page, page contents, HTML headers. There is
 still a site language (it's German) but the pages should be fully
 localized (including an extra hreflang header link for Google).
 * Complete deviation from MediaWiki's static navigation. Instead, all
 side-column navigation (usually on the left of pages) is created by the
 pages in the wiki themselves (using templates). This requires some small
 extensions to allow me to move/hide/change the main title of the page
 (you don't want the page title to span all columns and be above the
 navigation menu). Using SMW, the navigation can be highly adaptive to
 wiki and page contents. Examples:
 
 ** https://ddll.inf.tu-dresden.de/web/Ver%C3%B6ffentlichungen/2009/en
 shows year numbers that come from an #ask query and puts the MediaWiki
 __TOC__ for the current page below the currently selected year (with
 some styling to make it fit visually).
 
 ** https://ddll.inf.tu-dresden.de/web/Article4007/en
 shows links to publication pages of those authors (the authors come from
 a template parameter added in a form) that have pages on the site
 (again, SMW is used to figure out the latter).
 
 * There is a brand new Bibtex export that handles Unicode characters
 (translating them to LaTeX commands) and uses the MediaWiki GeSHI
 support for highlighting. See, e.g.,
 https://ddll.inf.tu-dresden.de/web/Article4002/en Please contact me if
 you are interested in this bibtex code; I have not published it anywhere
 yet.
 
 The site is based on the original AIFB Portal [1] but with completely
 reworked templates and skins (a lot of work I can tell you). The site is
 of course not free for editing, but all relevant namespaces (including
 Template and Form) are readable, and you can try action=formedit (do it
 on German pages! the English ones are just querying data from SMW) to
 see how the forms look.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Markus
 
 [1] http://www.aifb.kit.edu/web/Hauptseite
 
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Cargo SMW

2015-01-14 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear all,

please calm down. No reason to be or feel offended, or to offend.

It's better to speak of ones own fears, so here I go:

My fears are that 
- we might loose Yaron as a very important contributor to the SMW ecosystem 
because he throws his attention now to exclusively to Cargo
- that cargo will not be something that can be seamlessly used within SMW and 
therefore we SMW users can benefit from it, but (as it currently seems) we have 
to make this either-or-decision. It currently feels like it and it is not a 
good feeling. But it's certainly not too late for steps in this direction (to 
see Cargo as an addition to the SMW ecosystem)
- many users and developers of SMW will switch to cargo and abandon SMW

Again, these are my worries, not my predictions. It might also be the case that 
Cargo does not get enough attention, will not be maintained enough and will not 
be there long. Many other very promising extensions have had this kind of fate. 
Or, for the better, it might turn out that we SMW users can use future versions 
of cargo or integrate some of its components to something that adds value to 
SMW.

When Wikidata came, the intention was clear: to do the job of providing 
structured data for wikipiedia. Wikimedia hired some of the core SMW developers 
team, borrowed code, but also promised to give something back. As SMW is still 
very alive after/alongside Wikidata, we can see that it worked out fine.

Yaron, I think this is where you should clarify: do you see a peaceful 
coexistens and integration possibilities or is this your start to move away 
from SMW, trying to promote an alternative to SMW and trying to get others 
aboard?

With Semantic Forms, you did something very important: you hid a great bunch of 
complexity of SMW from the end user, thus making SMW what it is today, so I 
wonder why you did not tackle the next usability problems in the same way, but 
went in the direction of providing an alternative, not an addition to SMW?

cheers,
Bernhard

- Am 13. Jan 2015 um 23:25 schrieb chris tharp tharpena...@gmail.com:

 As a long time user of Semantic Mediaiwki I thought I should point out a
 few things:
 
 1. According to extension page inside Mediawiki the defining aspect of SMW
 is as follows: *Semantic MediaWiki* is an extension for managing structured
 data in your wiki and for querying that data to create dynamic
 representations: tables, timelines, maps, lists, etc. (
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_MediaWiki ). Please
 notice triples, RDF and OWL are not mentioned. Like Yaron, I would be
 willing to bet, 90% of the users of SMW are not concerned with them.
 2. The SMW extension page lists similar extensions: Wikibase,
 DynamicPageList, and WikiDB. Surely Cargo fits within this list.
 3. Cargo may or may not be equal to, or better then, SMW from many
 different perspectives. Someone who needs those aspects unique to SMW will,
 no doubt, find Cargo a pale mimic, but others will find Cargo a blessing
 (like all the poor bastards who can't run composer for some reason).
 
 What harms a community is when anyone attacks another it on the basis of
 personal attacks. A falsehood implies one is lying (at least in this
 context and exchange), an act of attention, not omission, or mistake, and
 when someone makes that claim they should back it up. But considering how
 SMW defines itself on it's own extension page it clearly seems no
 falsehood was stated. Yaron could be mistaken about the benefits of
 Cargo, but absolutely no falsehood was stated. In two different spots the
 issue of money is raised: paying-clients naively trust statements you make
 on these matters and when you'd rather not publicly confront that you're
 messing with a cold hard cash issue -- a very strange way to refer to
 people just doing due diligence. To paraphrase Shakespeare: the gentlemen
 does protest too much. Why he does, I don't know, but he does owe Yaron an
 apology for the personal attacks within his message.
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:23 PM, John McClure jmccl...@hypergrove.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi Yaron,
 I wish it were just a difference of opinion about what is good v bad,
 but the problem is that
 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo/Cargo_and_Semantic_MediaWiki
 states or implies categorically that Cargo is EQUAL IF NOT BETTER than
 SMW, when Cargo's functionality is not comparable to SMW in any
 meaningful way.  To me the real issue you mention is more the harm to
 the SMW community when falsehoods such as that claim stand without
 rebuttal, as paying-clients naively trust statements you make on these
 matters.

 So on a practical note I suggest that the page Cargo and SMW should be
 entitled Cargo and SRF and rewritten accordingly -- Cargo has zero
 relation to SMW, as we've discussed here. Cargo relates to SRF as
 a(nother) data-source for SRF routines, that's all. And surely you were
 instrumental when SRF was created as a separate extension in the first
 place 

[SMW-devel] SRF: Bootstrap dashboards

2015-03-04 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

this is interesting for Semantic Result Formats:

http://keen.github.io/dashboards/

cheers,
Bernhard


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[SMW-devel] Semantic Image Annotator question

2015-06-09 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear all,

I try to use Semantic Image Annotator [1] for the first time. You can see here 
[2] what happens: I have the start annotating button, but when I click it I 
cannot add any annotation. I have a form and template in place, but the problem 
seems to before the form call, because the annotation mode does not work. I can 
increase and decrase the picture size, but other than that, nothing happens.

Firebug shows an syntax error: SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected character at 
line 1 column 1 of the JSON data
..(window.JSONwindow.JSON.parse){return 
window.JSON.parse(data);}if(rvalidchars

I am using 
MediaWiki   1.23.9
PHP 5.3.28 (cgi-fcgi)
MySQL   5.5.42-cll
Semantic Forms  3.2
Semantic Image Annotator0.6.0
Semantic MediaWiki  2.2

any ideas?

cheers,
Bernhard

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Image_Annotator
[2] 
http://standards.kdz.eu/index.php?title=Datei:WStLA_KS_Sammelbestand_P1_6.jpg

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[SMW-devel] SMW, SRF, HeaderTabs and Mobile Frontend

2015-06-03 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear all,

does anyody have expierience with the Mobile Frontend extension [1] that is 
responsible for a special version of wiki pages for mobile devices (also used 
in Wikipedia)?

My problems:
1. Mobile display and some result formats have problems. Even the simplest SMW 
tables seam to break the mobile view.
2. Mobile display and Header Tabs [2] don't work. When both are installed, no 
HeaderTabs are displayed.

My main question is, where these issues have to be fixed. Is this an issue of 
the Mobile Frontend extension or an issue of SRF and HeaderTabs?

Is anybody in this list who would be able and willing to work on this? I can 
try to put some funding together eventually.

cheers,
Bernhard

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Header_Tabs#Incompatible_extensions

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[SMW-devel] SRF: Datatables don't work

2015-06-10 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

in my testwiki, the datatables result formats don't work, nothing shows up: 
http://standards.kdz.eu/index.php?title=ResultFormatsTest

Any ideas? 

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[SMW-devel] Newbie question: how to use a config variable in javascript

2015-07-02 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

I'm hacking my way around these days and I have a newbie question:

If a variable is set in an extension (e.g. 
$GLOBALS['$egMapsTest'] = 'http://{s}.tile.osm.org/{z}/{x}/{y}.png';

How can I access this variable in a JavaScript?

The only hint I found so far is
var Test2 = mw.config.get('egMapsTest');

but this doesn't work...

I have the feeling that mw.config.get onyl works for mw variables (wg...), but 
how can I access eg-Variables that are set by an extension?

cheers,
Bernhard

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[SMW-devel] Off Topic: AuthDrupal

2015-11-12 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

does anybody have experience with the AuthDrupal extension? After upgrading the 
server from PHP 5.3 to 5.5, I get the following error:

Declaration of AuthDrupal::initUser() should be compatible with 
AuthPlugin::initUser(&$user, $autocreate = false) in 
.../extensions/AuthDrupal/AuthDrupal.php on line 374

If I deactivate the extension, the wiki works find, so it is certainly a 
problem of the (unmaintained) extension.

Ideas?

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[SMW-devel] Strange behaviour of export formats

2015-11-16 Thread Krabina Bernhard
dear all,

I am facing strange behaviour of Export formats (like RDF, CSV, JSON). 

You can see it here:
http://www.ogdcockpit.eu/index.php?title=ExportFormatTest

most of the "RDF"-Links fail: they lead to Special:Ask instead of returning an 
RDF file. Some work, though.
I had the feeling it might have to do with the large number of printouts (in 
brackets), but there are some below 20 printouts that work and some that don't. 
I also manually set $smwgQPrintoutLimit = 100; but that didn't help either.
Another guess it that the resulting URL might be too long, but I have URLS with 
~800 characters, URLs should work with up to 2000 characters.
format=debug didn't help me much, either.

Why can it happen that a export format redirects to Special:Search instead of 
delivering a result? How can I debug this?

regards,
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[SMW-devel] Upgrade to SMW 2.3 RebuildData exception StripState.php

2015-11-06 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

I updated two wikis to SMW 2.3 and in one the rebuildData throws an exception 
in ~20 pages. I am able to continut the update after the pages with errors with 
 rebuildData.php -v -s 64, but the pages with error did not have any properties 
set.

I assume that the IDs of the pages that rebuildData are the page-IDs that can 
be accessed like this:
http://www.ogdcockpit.eu/index.php?curid=63

other examples are the ids
73, 125, 171,175-178, 201 and others

Here is the exception:

[8868c940] [no req]   Exception from line 77 of 
/home/kdz/ogdcockpit/includes/parser/StripState.php: Invalid 
marker:UNIQ7830edce1aa1edea-h-5--QIN
Backtrace:
#0 ../includes/parser/StripState.php(66): StripState->addItem(string, string, 
string)
#1 ../includes/parser/Preprocessor_DOM.php(1194): 
StripState->addGeneral(string, string)
#2 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(3492): PPFrame_DOM->expand(PPNode_DOM)
#3 ../includes/parser/Preprocessor_DOM.php(1113): 
Parser->braceSubstitution(array, PPFrame_DOM)
#4 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(3153): PPFrame_DOM->expand(PPNode_DOM, integer)
#5 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(1216): Parser->replaceVariables(string)
#6 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(395): Parser->internalParse(string)
#7 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ContentParser.php(202): 
Parser->parse(string, Title, ParserOptions, boolean, boolean, integer)
#8 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ContentParser.php(147): 
SMW\ContentParser->fetchFromParser()
#9 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(136): 
SMW\ContentParser->parse()
#10 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(119): 
SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->needToParsePageContentBeforeUpdate()
#11 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(88): 
SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->doPrepareForUpdate()
#12 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(57): 
SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->doUpdate()
#13 
../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/SQLStore/ByIdDataRebuildDispatcher.php(171):
 SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->run()
#14 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Maintenance/DataRebuilder.php(247): 
SMW\SQLStore\ByIdDataRebuildDispatcher->dispatchRebuildFor(integer)
#15 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Maintenance/DataRebuilder.php(147): 
SMW\Maintenance\DataRebuilder->doRebuildAll()
#16 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/rebuildData.php(141): 
SMW\Maintenance\DataRebuilder->rebuild()
#17 ../maintenance/doMaintenance.php(104): 
SMW\Maintenance\RebuildData->execute()
#18 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/rebuildData.php(174): 
require_once(string)
#19 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/SMW_refreshData.php(9): 
require_once(string)
#20 {main}

The envorinment can be seen here:
http://www.ogdcockpit.eu/index.php?title=Spezial:Version

I also tried to "Rebuild everything" 
https://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Repairing_SMW's_data#Rebuilding_everything
but this did not change the outcome.

Any ideas?

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[SMW-devel] News Challenge funding opportunity

2015-09-14 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

the Knight Foundation has funding opportiunities: https://www.newschallenge.org

There really should be somehing in for SMW related stuff! 

cheers,
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[SMW-devel] Need help fixing Semantic Comments extension

2015-12-11 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear all,

I need somebody to help get the Semantic Comments extension to work in MW 1.25.x

As I have described in the Talk Page of the extension, after installation only 
the icon can be seen, but no comment functionality:
http://www.ogdcockpit.eu/index.php?title=SemanticComments_Sandbox

I can offer payment for fixing this.

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Re: [SMW-devel] Upgrade to SMW 2.3 RebuildData exception StripState.php

2015-11-20 Thread Krabina Bernhard
I followed the advice to remove all extensions prior to running the script. 
Finally, I only had SMW installed, nothing more. Then I deleted the store and 
rebuilt everything from scratch. Still, the errors persist.

cheers,
Bernhard

- Am 6. Nov 2015 um 12:33 schrieb Bernhard Krabina krab...@kdz.or.at:

> Hi,
> 
> I updated two wikis to SMW 2.3 and in one the rebuildData throws an exception 
> in
> ~20 pages. I am able to continut the update after the pages with errors with
> rebuildData.php -v -s 64, but the pages with error did not have any properties
> set.
> 
> I assume that the IDs of the pages that rebuildData are the page-IDs that can 
> be
> accessed like this:
> http://www.ogdcockpit.eu/index.php?curid=63
> 
> other examples are the ids
> 73, 125, 171,175-178, 201 and others
> 
> Here is the exception:
> 
> [8868c940] [no req]   Exception from line 77 of
> /home/kdz/ogdcockpit/includes/parser/StripState.php: Invalid
> marker:UNIQ7830edce1aa1edea-h-5--QIN
> Backtrace:
> #0 ../includes/parser/StripState.php(66): StripState->addItem(string, string,
> string)
> #1 ../includes/parser/Preprocessor_DOM.php(1194): 
> StripState->addGeneral(string,
> string)
> #2 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(3492): PPFrame_DOM->expand(PPNode_DOM)
> #3 ../includes/parser/Preprocessor_DOM.php(1113):
> Parser->braceSubstitution(array, PPFrame_DOM)
> #4 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(3153): PPFrame_DOM->expand(PPNode_DOM, 
> integer)
> #5 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(1216): Parser->replaceVariables(string)
> #6 ../includes/parser/Parser.php(395): Parser->internalParse(string)
> #7 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ContentParser.php(202):
> Parser->parse(string, Title, ParserOptions, boolean, boolean, integer)
> #8 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ContentParser.php(147):
> SMW\ContentParser->fetchFromParser()
> #9 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(136):
> SMW\ContentParser->parse()
> #10 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(119):
> SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->needToParsePageContentBeforeUpdate()
> #11 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(88):
> SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->doPrepareForUpdate()
> #12 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/MediaWiki/Jobs/UpdateJob.php(57):
> SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->doUpdate()
> #13
> ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/SQLStore/ByIdDataRebuildDispatcher.php(171):
> SMW\MediaWiki\Jobs\UpdateJob->run()
> #14 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Maintenance/DataRebuilder.php(247):
> SMW\SQLStore\ByIdDataRebuildDispatcher->dispatchRebuildFor(integer)
> #15 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Maintenance/DataRebuilder.php(147):
> SMW\Maintenance\DataRebuilder->doRebuildAll()
> #16 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/rebuildData.php(141):
> SMW\Maintenance\DataRebuilder->rebuild()
> #17 ../maintenance/doMaintenance.php(104):
> SMW\Maintenance\RebuildData->execute()
> #18 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/rebuildData.php(174):
> require_once(string)
> #19 ../extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/SMW_refreshData.php(9):
> require_once(string)
> #20 {main}
> 
> The envorinment can be seen here:
> http://www.ogdcockpit.eu/index.php?title=Spezial:Version
> 
> I also tried to "Rebuild everything"
> https://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Repairing_SMW's_data#Rebuilding_everything
> but this did not change the outcome.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> cheers,
> Bernhard
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[SMW-devel] using variables set in localsettings in javascript

2016-04-06 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear all,

as I unfortunately cannot call myself a PHP developer, my small commits are 
more hacks than programming, but I'm trying to improve :-)

I have a basic question, you might laugh about, but I could not find a decent 
example. Maybe you can help me?

I have figured out how variables are set in localsettings.php and can be reused 
in PHP code. But if an extension uses JavaScript, how can I make use of a 
variable that I set in localsettings.php in the JavaScript?

Can anybody point to an example in any SMW extension?

cheers,
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[SMW-devel] German based fund for Open-Source-Development

2016-08-01 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear SMW community,

with a jealous view from Austria, I can forward a funding opportunity for 
Germany based SMW developers:

http://prototypefund.de/

Hope that some of you apply!

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[SMW-devel] Call for Papers Semantic Web

2016-07-06 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi,

I don't really know this journal, but they are doing a special issue on 
Semantic Web. Maybe somebody is interested in publishing somehing SMW related?

Submission Deadline: November 20th, 2016
Publication Date: January 2017 

http://www.scirp.org/journal/htmlOfSpecialIssue.aspx?ID=2998=2431_campaign=SpecialIssue_source=e_nl_medium=nl_jcc_sc_20160624_xiangfang_78487#.V3ynDjVdyao

cheers,
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Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] SRF: Timeline and Histopedia

2016-10-05 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi Yaron, 

that's a good question. Basically I'd like to see the existing functionality 
from the exhibit timeline/eventline in a more modern style (and probably also 
better responsiveness). Futhermore both of the others (histropedia and chap) 
feature the display of pictures on the timeline, which of course is also nice 
to have. 

cheers, 
Bernhard 

- Am 4. Okt 2016 um 15:09 schrieb Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com>: 

> Hi Bernhard,
> Could you enumerate what features you would ideally like to see in a timeline
> format? The Exhibit Timeline library, which is used by SMW (and, let me note,
> by Cargo as well), is indeed old and poorly-maintained, but it still works
> fine. I'm guessing that you would also prefer the Histropedia and CHAP 
> Timeline
> libraries because of their different displays (such as showing an image for
> each event) and/or additional features, though I could be wrong.

> -Yaron

> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 4:28 AM, Krabina Bernhard < krab...@kdz.or.at > wrote:

>> Dear all,

>> I wrote to the Histopedia team if it was possible to get some kind of 
>> histopedia
>> result format for SMW. The problem with the timeline and eventline formats is
>> that they are very old and not maintained.

>> Here is some snippets of what they wrote me:

>> "We've recently released a JavaScript library called HistropediaJS, which 
>> allows
>> you to use any data source with the Histropedia timeline engine. The basic
>> licence is free for non-commercial use, including the right to edit the code
>> where advanced customisation is required (most simple customisation can be 
>> done
>> with the built in options). Is this licence permissive enough for use in SMW
>> wikis? We do plan on open sourcing at some point, but not sure of the 
>> timescale
>> yet as we need to get a bit further with our business model first. p.s. Very
>> happy to offer any advise/assistance needed in using HistropediaJS"

>> So my questions to the SMW developers:
>> 1. Is anybody interested in developing a new result format based on
>> Histopedia.js
>> 2. Is anybody interested in taking over
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ChapTimeline - another abandoned
>> approach on prividing a new timeline format
>> 3. Is anybody interested in doing another sort of current timline/eventline
>> format

>> I am happy to connect you with the Histopedia person.

>> To the users/organisations: is anybody interested in this and can put up some
>> funding?

>> cheers,
>> Bernhard

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[SMW-devel] SRF: Timeline and Histopedia

2016-10-04 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear all,

I wrote to the Histopedia team if it was possible to get some kind of 
histopedia result format for SMW. The problem with the timeline and eventline 
formats is that they are very old and not maintained.

Here is some snippets of what they wrote me:

"We've recently released a JavaScript library called HistropediaJS, which 
allows you to use any data source with the Histropedia timeline engine. The 
basic licence is free for non-commercial use, including the right to edit the 
code where advanced customisation is required (most simple customisation can be 
done with the built in options). Is this licence permissive enough for use in 
SMW wikis? We do plan on open sourcing at some point, but not sure of the 
timescale yet as we need to get a bit further with our business model first. 
p.s. Very happy to offer any advise/assistance needed in using HistropediaJS" 

So my questions to the SMW developers:
1. Is anybody interested in developing a new result format based on 
Histopedia.js
2. Is anybody interested in taking over 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ChapTimeline - another abandoned 
approach on prividing a new timeline format
3. Is anybody interested in doing another sort of current timline/eventline 
format

I am happy to connect you with the Histopedia person.

To the users/organisations: is anybody interested in this and can put up some 
funding?

cheers,
Bernhard


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[SMW-devel] (Semantic) Text annotation

2016-10-04 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear all,

I think that besides the great management of data inside a wiki, we should not 
forget that text annotation (not in the editor, but on the resulting wiki 
pages) is a good use case for many mediawiki installations.

There is an unfortunately abandoned extension Semantic Text Annotator: 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Text_Annotator
The author has sent me a PDF document (in German) describing his approach and 
his achievements. It worked for some time, but does not work in MW 1.27.

There is also a different approach, the Annotator.js library: 
http://annotatorjs.org/

Is anybody of the developers interested in 
- taking over Semantic Text Annotator extension or
- developing an extension for Annotator.js - at best including semantifying the 
annotations

To the users/organisations: is anybody interested in this and can put up some 
funding?

cheers,
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[SMW-devel] SRF: Open Knowledge Maps?

2016-11-07 Thread Krabina Bernhard
A nice project http://openknowledgemaps.org

might be inspirational/reusable for an open knowlege maps result format for SMW?

cheers,
Bernhard

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[SMW-devel] Issuehunt?

2018-07-03 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear all,

what about using https://issuehunt.io for https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki ?

I know that very often developers cannot be motivated by money. But for some it 
can help to get additional motivation :-)

cheers,
Bernhard

PS: by the way I was cutoff the smw mailing lists due to reasons unknown to me. 
had to re-register...

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[SMW-devel] SMW at Wikimania 2019

2019-08-13 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi, 

I will attend Wikimania in Stockholm this week and I scheduled a SMW meetup: 
[ https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2019:Meetups/SMW_meetup | 
https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2019:Meetups/SMW_meetup ] 

Will anybody from the SMW community be there? If yes, I'd be happy to see you 
there. 

cheers, 
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[SMW-devel] New result format: Modern Timeline

2019-08-21 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hi, 

there is a first version of a new result format "Modern Timeline" available 
[1]. It brings TimelineJS by Knightlab to SMW [2]. Feel free to try it out! 

Thank you to Jeroen DeDauw for implementing this. 

cheers, 
Bernhard 

[1] [ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Modern_Timeline | 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Modern_Timeline ] 
[2] [ http://timeline.knightlab.com/ | http://timeline.knightlab.com/ ] 
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Re: [SMW-devel] New result format: Modern Timeline

2019-08-21 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Please keep me updated on this!

If NASA is using an extension that we funded, I'll be sure to tell the world ;-)

cheers,
Bernhard

- Am 21. Aug 2019 um 15:38 schrieb Richard K. Evans, GRC-H000 
richard.k.ev...@nasa.gov:

> This is cool.
> 
> I found the "TimelineJS" website [1] very helpful and an example of it [2]
> extremely well done. I'm super eager to use this. Thank you,
> 
> /Rich
> 
> [1] https://timeline.knightlab.com
> [2] https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/hubble-history-timeline
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Krabina Bernhard 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 4:11 AM
> To: semediawiki-user 
> Cc: semediawiki-devel 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Semediawiki-user] New result format: Modern Timeline
> 
> Hi,
> 
> there is a first version of a new result format "Modern Timeline" available 
> [1].
> It brings TimelineJS by Knightlab to SMW [2]. Feel free to try it out!
> 
> Thank you to Jeroen DeDauw for implementing this.
> 
> cheers,
> Bernhard
> 
> [1] [
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AModern-5FTimeline=DwICAg=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw=O7YM45hy98-w4mg5rdFJLaw3OMPPrrHgP1ZpdxP5og0=PGZHhZresoDBrABVBORhHrzp7kcBmIixuR-E4OLngzE=
> |
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mediawiki.org_wiki_Extension-3AModern-5FTimeline=DwICAg=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw=O7YM45hy98-w4mg5rdFJLaw3OMPPrrHgP1ZpdxP5og0=PGZHhZresoDBrABVBORhHrzp7kcBmIixuR-E4OLngzE=
> ] [2] [
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__timeline.knightlab.com_=DwICAg=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw=O7YM45hy98-w4mg5rdFJLaw3OMPPrrHgP1ZpdxP5og0=tIDEIgRUe47Bp4YQaRthglv0rEG6R9PjyMSp8OIYAQI=
> |
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__timeline.knightlab.com_=DwICAg=ApwzowJNAKKw3xye91w7BE1XMRKi2LN9kiMk5Csz9Zk=9NM-9omoRra7fL56CWslBkAVE25KY5Ff9rp6kNpFDRw=O7YM45hy98-w4mg5rdFJLaw3OMPPrrHgP1ZpdxP5og0=tIDEIgRUe47Bp4YQaRthglv0rEG6R9PjyMSp8OIYAQI=
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[SMW-devel] Google Summer of Code 2020

2019-12-12 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear all, 

Google has announced another round of their "Summer of Code" program, where 
students get paid to do programming work for open source software and mentors 
help them out. 

In the past, several good things have come out of this, also for SMW. 

MediaWiki is participating and there might be other organizations from the SMW 
community. I don't have any background information on how this works, except 
for the official information at [ https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ | 
https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ ] 

But I do believe that we should have organization(s) and mentor(s) trying to 
get students involved with SMW development. 

Here are is some more information from MediaWiki.org: 
[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers | 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Developers ] and 
[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Good_first_bugs | 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Good_first_bugs ] 

If anybody is willing and able to step up here as organization or mentor, we 
could use the mailing list to combine efforts. 

Cheers, 
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[SMW-devel] SemanticTasks 2.0 released

2019-11-30 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Hello everyone, 

we are happy to announce the immediate availability of SemanticTasks 2.0. The 
main goal of this release is to make the extension work again with MW 1.31 and 
up as well as SMW 3.x. 

Thank you to Peter Grassberger for the implementation that was sponsored by KDZ 
- Centre for Public Administration Research in Vienna. 

The code was moved to GitHub [0] thanks to the SMW relase team. 

Features: 


* Minimum requirement for 
* PHP changed to version 5.6 and later 
* MediaWiki changed to version 1.31 and later 
* Semantic MediaWiki changed to version 3.0 and later 
* Added support for extension registration via "extension.json" → Now you 
have to use wfLoadExtension( 'SemanticTasks' ); in the "LocalSettings.php" file 
to invoke the extension 
* Introduced custom property mapping 
* Reworked and improved extension documentation 
* Updated translations (by translatewiki.net community) 

Also a thank you to all people involved making this release possible, 
especially Karsten Hoffmeyer, Jeroen De Dauw and MWJames. 

cheers, 
Bernhard Krabina 

[0] [ https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticTasks | 
https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticTasks ] 


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Re: [SMW-devel] Need hook for page property changes

2019-10-10 Thread Krabina Bernhard
and you should look in to https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticTasks
which is maintained an can do that.

cheers,
Bernhard

PS: There is also a somewhat unmaintained extension that did somethink like 
that:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Watchlist

- Am 10. Okt 2019 um 12:00 schrieb Sebastian Trueg tr...@truegeex.de:

> Hello SMW experts,
> 
> I am currently working on a simple extension that allows to send email
> notifications when a property of a page changes to a certain value.
> 
> To that end I need to check the new property value after a page
> modification.
> 
> Since SMW seems to use the Mediawiki hook PageContentSaveComplete itself
> I figured using that would not be safe.
> 
> Is the "AfterUpdateDispatcherJobComplete" hook a sensible place to queue
> jobs that would check those changes?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Regards,
> Sebasian
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[SMW-devel] SMWCon 2020 - November 24-26, free and online - call for contributions

2020-09-09 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear all, 

we are happy to announce the 17th SMWCon 2020! 



Discover the future of knowledge sharing 
at the 17th [ https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2020 | 
Semantic MediaWiki Conference ] 
24.11. – 26.11.2020 

[ https://twitter.com/#!/semanticmw ] Twitter Hashtag is [ 
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SMWCon | #SMWCon ] 


The SemanticMediaWiki conference is the yearly event for professional wiki 
users, maintainers, developers, consultants, researchers, responsible persons 
from business and administration. Join in, get inspired and connect with 
experts! 
Virtual conference 


Due to the corona pandemic, this conference will take place virtually. 
Schedule 
We plan three days with different tracks: enterprise and government, semantic 
and developer community, research and education. Each day offers space and time 
for tutorials, talks and a create camp. 
Call for contributions 
Please add you contributions here: [ 
https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2020 | 
https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2020 ] 

Hope to see you! 
Bernhard Krabina and Richard Heigl 
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[SMW-devel] Wikimedia community wishlist

2020-11-17 Thread Krabina Bernhard
There all, 

there is a community wishlist running until end of november regarding 
inprovements in MediaWiki. 

[ https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2021/en | 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2021/en ] 

So you might have suggestions that also affect Semantic MediaWiki positively. 

regards, 
Bernhard 
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[SMW-devel] Please register for SMWCon at Hopin

2020-11-21 Thread Krabina Bernhard
Dear all, 

a short reminder: in order to participate at next weeks SMWCon online, please 
register (for free) here [ https://hopin.to/events/smwcon | 
https://hopin.to/events/smwcon ] 

regards, 
Bernhard 

PS: In case you left your name in the list of attendees here [ 
https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2020 | 
https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMWCon_Fall_2020 ] 
you still will have to register with Hopin! Sorry for the inconvenience, but 
now that you have an account for semantic-mediawiki.org feel free to help us 
maintain the documentation :-) 
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