Re: Window-Eyes and latest Windows Insider build
have you rebooted the computer since you did the setup? it doesn't install the video drivers until you do. i don't know if the demo has the emergency removal tool. it is on the full release on the installation cd if someone has it. but you would have to run it with narrator running and it won't announce anything until it has finished and it says window eyes has been completely removed. -Original Message- From: Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 3:41 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: joseph.nor...@gmail.com Subject: Window-Eyes and latest Windows Insider build Just installed WE 9.5.4 demo on Windows 10 Version 2004 (OS Build 21277.1000). This is the latest insider build. Install went smoothly, but, a few seconds after first run, in addition to the setup wizard, I got this: A problem has been detected that could potentially cause Window-Eyes to behave inefficiently. Sending information about this problem is strongly recommended so that the issue can be addressed. Do you want to send information about this problem now? If you choose Yes, a report will be sent to Ai Squared support technicians for investigation. If you choose No, no information will be sent. If you choose Cancel, you will not be prompted again for this version of Window-Eyes. Yes No Cancel Just for the heck of it, I said "Yes", but got an e-mail telling me about JAWS 18-you know how long that has been in place. I wasn't even expecting that, because most of GW's Web site is gone. It's gutted, almost like my house was after the fire in 2007. No other anomalies, other than what you all probably know about already. But, it's still chugging along. Still seems to work under latest Edge, and need to put Chrome back in here. I have to do almost a complete wipe of the HD to re-install the demo, so going to re-install my essential programs. My system stays in a state of flux anyway, so no big deal. Cheers! ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: copying and pasting
i don't quite get what you are trying to do. like with wlm and a link to a web page. i can use either methosd. or i can open a context menu with shift f10 and use copy shortcut. then paste it into the browser. all 3 ways work for me. -Original Message- From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 9:21 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Pamela Dominguez Subject: Re: copying and pasting Do I use that when copying a url to put into a browser? Because that's when I was having trouble copying and pasting. The rest of the time, I was able to use the old copy and paste, like if I was moving files and stuff. Pam. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 11:56 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: net bat Subject: Re: copying and pasting press f8 at the beginning of the text and f8 on the end of the text you want to copy. -Original Message- From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 8:49 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Pamela Dominguez Subject: copying and pasting I know how to do the regular copy and paste, but I remember that in the last window eyes, they changed it. I have some questions. It seems that the new one worked in certain instances, and that you used the regular copy and paste, meaning the control c and control v, the rest of the time. When I go to copy email addresses, do I use the new one or the old one, and how do I use the new one? I don’t remember the key strokes for that. Thanks for anybody’s help. Pam. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/pammygirl99%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: copying and pasting
press f8 at the beginning of the text and f8 on the end of the text you want to copy. -Original Message- From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 8:49 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Pamela Dominguez Subject: copying and pasting I know how to do the regular copy and paste, but I remember that in the last window eyes, they changed it. I have some questions. It seems that the new one worked in certain instances, and that you used the regular copy and paste, meaning the control c and control v, the rest of the time. When I go to copy email addresses, do I use the new one or the old one, and how do I use the new one? I don’t remember the key strokes for that. Thanks for anybody’s help. Pam. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: email
its there in programs and features in windows essentuals click on that to start an uninstall. wlm will be there in the list. there you can do a repair or uninstall. -Original Message- From: peter Chin via Talk Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 3:10 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: peter Chin Subject: Re: email Hello all, Thanks very much for all your help. Just for your info, I did think of uninstalling and reinstalling Wlm but, unfortunately I couldn't find where to uninstall it. WLM is not listed in the control panel's Default Programs nor in Program and features. I also cannot find it in the list of apps. David did mention that my computer may have caught the 'flu. Well, I don't know about that but I certainly have caught the flu myself which is why I am in no mood at this time to mess around with the computer. Most of the problems I am having seem to be connected with apps which cannot be installed properly, like the Word Navigation app. When I tried to add them, a message pops up saying that the app is "Not Validated" or something like that. I do use the register cleaner in my Ccleaner from time to time. In my Windows XP box, I have a program called Regscrub which I found very helpful, but apparently, that program has not been updated for Windows 7-10. It also does not give me the option of backing up my register in case something should go wrong during cleaning. Never mind. I think I can live with my computer the way it is for now. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: email
have you tried re installing the wlm app package? or maybe doing a wlm system repair? the repair is done in the program and features list. look for the essentuals program. start a uninstall. it will open a dialog with options to uninstall or repair all the essentuals programs that ar installed. -Original Message- From: peter Chin via Talk Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 6:18 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: peter Chin Subject: email Hello all, I made some mistakes in my last message so I am sending it again. -- Hello all, I use WLM as my e-mail client on a Windows 8.1 machine and WE 9.5.4. I had no trouble with this client until just over a month ago. Since then, I get a script error message after sending out an e-mail message.I get four choices: ignore error, stop App, edit App or restart App. I have to choose the last option if I want to continue using WLM. However, WLM doesn't function properly unless I either reload WE or get out of WLM and then go back in. I hope someone can suggest a remedy for this problem. For those who understand script writing (which I don't), I include a copy of the script which is supposed to be re-edited. ' For license information, see WindowsLiveMail License.txt which ships with this package. Option Explicit Dim myXMLFile : myXMLFile = ClientInformation.ScriptPath & "+AFw-WindowsLiveMail.xml" Dim myINIFile : myINIFile = ClientInformation.ScriptPath & "+AFw-WindowsLiveMail.ini" Dim myStrings : Set myStrings = Strings(myXMLFile) Dim myScriptUpdateURL : myScriptUpdateURL = " http://www.gwmicro.com/scripts/windows_live_mail/xml " Dim checkedForUpdates : checkedForUpdates = False Dim errorReportingEnabled : errorReportingEnabled = False Dim SO_StandardHelpDialog : Set SO_StandardHelpDialog = Nothing Dim SO_CheckForUpdate : Set SO_CheckForUpdate = Nothing Dim SO_ErrorReporting : Set SO_ErrorReporting = Nothing Dim fsObj : Set fsObj = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject") Dim messageWindow : Set messageWindow = Nothing Dim setFileActiveEvent : setFileActiveEvent = 0 Dim lastSpoken : lastSpoken = "" Dim blockedFocusEvent : Set blockedFocusEvent = Nothing Dim msaaFocusEvent : msaaFocusEvent = 0 Dim myMSAAEventSource : Set myMSAAEventSource = Nothing Dim contactHwnd : contactHwnd = 0 Dim fieldDataEvent : fieldDataEvent = 0 Dim myMoveMessageHotkey : Set myMoveMessageHotkey = Nothing Dim myKeyDownEvent : myKeyDownEvent = 0 Dim keyProcessedDownEventForBraille : keyProcessedDownEventForBraille = 0 Dim myBrailleObj : Set myBrailleObj = Nothing Dim firstLetterNavStr : firstLetterNavStr = "" Dim keyPressTimer : keyPressTimer = 0 Const TIMER_AUTOCOMPLETE = 1000 Const GRAPHIC_PREFIX = "GRAPHIC_" Class MessageWindowClass Private toField Private autoCompleteSelected Private myMSAAEventSource Private autoCompleteEntries Private myHotkeys Private messageWindow Private msaaEvents Private timers Private startTimerProxy Private hotkeyProxy Private msaaEventProxy Public Sub Class_Initialize() ' Begin Set toField = Nothing Set autoCompleteSelected = Nothing Set myMSAAEventSource = MSAAEventSource Set autoCompleteEntries = CreateObject("Scripting.Dictionary") Set myHotkeys = CreateObject("Scripting.Dictionary") Set msaaEvents = CreateObject("Scripting.Dictionary") Set timers = CreateObject("Scripting.Dictionary") Set startTimerProxy = (New SingleParameterProxyClass).Init(Me, "TimerProc") Set hotkeyProxy = (New DualParameterProxyClass).Init(Me, "HotkeyProc") Set msaaEventProxy = (New DualParameterProxyClass).Init(Me, "MSAAProc") End Sub Public Function Init(wObj, newMessage) ' Begin Set messageWindow = wObj RegisterHotkeys wObj ' We only need to hook events for new messages myMSAAEventSource.Window = messageWindow If newMessage Then msaaEvents(msaaEvents.Count +- 1) = ConnectEventWithParameter(myMSAAEventSource, "OnObjectFocus", msaaEventProxy, event_OBJECT_FOCUS) msaaEvents(msaaEvents.Count +- 1) = ConnectEventWithParameter(myMSAAEventSource, "OnObjectStateChange", msaaEventProxy, event_OBJECT_STATECHANGE) Else msaaEvents(msaaEvents.Count +- 1) = ConnectEventWithParameter(myMSAAEventSource, "OnObjectReorder", msaaEventProxy, event_OBJECT_REORDER) End If Set Init = Me End Function Private Sub RegisterHotkeys(wObj) Dim i ' Begin For i = 1 to 7 Set myHotkeys("myAlt" & i & "HotKey") = Keyboard.RegisterHotkey("Alt-" & i, hotkeyProxy, wObj, i, True) Next End Sub Public Sub HotkeyProc(hotkeyID, firstPress) Dim accObj, noteWindow, searchStr, result, location, speakStr, match ' Begin
Re: email
the biggest risk is the user. clicking on links in the message and opening attachments. opening auvious spam mail etc. i don't know where to download the off line installation for wlm. but this should install without microsofts permission. grin. as far as google they want you to think that every email client is a security risk except there own products. you have to log into your google account and go to your security settings and check the options to allow unsecure programs before you can send and recieve google mail. google will block you if you don't do this. this applies to wlm,thunderbird and severl versions of outlook. -Original Message- From: tony c via Talk Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 12:44 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: tony c Subject: RE: email I have a gmail account and it does work but there’s a lot of crap on the screen that I really don’t want to weed thru everytime I was to check my email. Lol. I don’t think you can download WLM anymore and it isn’t supported so there’s a security risk. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 1:26 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: email I use WLM successfully with Jaws and Window-eyes both and it is free. Lots of blind folks use gmail successfully, and it is also free. -Bob Ringwald -Original Message- From: tony c via Talk Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 10:18 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: tony c Subject: RE: email It doesn’t work well with Jaws either, It’s useable but that about all I”ll say for it. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Steve Jacobson via Talk Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 11:01 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Steve Jacobson Subject: RE: email Tony, I know of others using Windows Mail with some success with other screen readers. Have you tried it with NVDA or Narrator to see if you have the same issues that you are having with Window-Eyes? One of the issues that will be faced for certain at some point is that other screen readers are doing a lot on an on-going basis to keep up with changes to programs like Outlook, and even Window-Eyes is still using a lot of the work done in the past. It is possible that some aspects of Windows Mail could work better with the right Window-Eyes "app" but it isn't that easy to make that happen now. The Becky email program is not free but is only something like $35 and there is no charge for upgrades. You have to change a few settings and the interface is a little different but I believe it is still working with Window-Eyes. That might be worth a look and they have a trial period. You can check out http://www.rimarts.co.jp/becky.htm#download but remember you have to disable the "Line Pointer" in the "edit" tab of "general Setup and also the "Four Way Cursor" option in the Message tab of the same dialog. This simply means unchecking the associated check boxes. That program is still being updated but their updates seem to be very carefully done. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 7:17 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: RE: email Hi Darrell, Thunderbird worked great for me until Window-Eyes stopped tracking the cursor. This was the second email client which did this to me. The previous one was Windows Live Mail. Since I switched to Office 365 Outlook, this has not happened. I know that Office 365 costs money on an ongoing basis, but Microsoft regularly improves its accessibility, and so staying with it gives you the best opportunity to use accessible email software on Windows and the Apple Mac. I know, I say this all the time. Smile With respect, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: November 7, 2019 8:48 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Darrell Bowles Subject: RE: email How about thunderbird? -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of tony c via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:13 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: tony c Subject: RE: email I know outlook is accessible, but I don’t need office 365. I use very little of anything except Microsoft word on a rare occasion. I just hate the mail program that’s with win 10. I do use it but it’s not totally accessible. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: joseph hudson via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:49 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: joseph hudson Subject: Re: email Hi Tony, Outlook is very accessible. joseph hudson Technology support for the blind or better known as Mack, IOS and Windows support FaceTime, iMessage, and email jhud7...@twc.com Telephone/what's up messenger 254-300-7667 Emergency cell 254-813-2461 Twitter
wlm and mouse tracking.
i don't know either. i only use windows live mail to send and recieve mail. i have never used or need to use any of the other functions. so i have never used window eyes with mouse tracking on. tracking does work when you are in the to,from,bcc,and cc fields but i found this quite annoying with the added verbage so i turned mouse tracking back off. -Original Message- From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 8:33 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Pamela Dominguez Subject: Re: email Really? I can still use window eyes with windows live mail, and I haven't noticed a difference. So I don't know what you mean about window eyes stopped tracking the cursor. Pam. -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 8:17 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: RE: email Hi Darrell, Thunderbird worked great for me until Window-Eyes stopped tracking the cursor. This was the second email client which did this to me. The previous one was Windows Live Mail. Since I switched to Office 365 Outlook, this has not happened. I know that Office 365 costs money on an ongoing basis, but Microsoft regularly improves its accessibility, and so staying with it gives you the best opportunity to use accessible email software on Windows and the Apple Mac. I know, I say this all the time. Smile With respect, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: November 7, 2019 8:48 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Darrell Bowles Subject: RE: email How about thunderbird? -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of tony c via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:13 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: tony c Subject: RE: email I know outlook is accessible, but I don’t need office 365. I use very little of anything except Microsoft word on a rare occasion. I just hate the mail program that’s with win 10. I do use it but it’s not totally accessible. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: joseph hudson via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:49 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: joseph hudson Subject: Re: email Hi Tony, Outlook is very accessible. joseph hudson Technology support for the blind or better known as Mack, IOS and Windows support FaceTime, iMessage, and email jhud7...@twc.com Telephone/what's up messenger 254-300-7667 Emergency cell 254-813-2461 Twitter https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fjosephhudson89data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc244c73ce10444eaf5f708d763e8c44e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637087723679719753sdata=jsjRGciWdVuDVRH5GINvRpgeuZ5NM%2FPTPoOhbUtys2I%3Dreserved=0 Facebook https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fjoseph.hudson.9404data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc244c73ce10444eaf5f708d763e8c44e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637087723679719753sdata=TE8%2Fenq1ezhWNwKx62BDgNVxRZS2GWbdXLKSII5yjIQ%3Dreserved=0 On Nov 7, 2019, at 1:26 PM, tony c via Talk wrote: Hi, I need a accessible email program. I’m using the one that on windows 10, it is useable but just barely. Lol Tony Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fjhud7789%2540twc.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Cc244c73ce10444eaf5f708d763e8c44e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637087723679719753sdata=9bjIZ689aihYWPqqvcnFmyM9xmjh4slVEoxboYiP9l0%3Dreserved=0. For subscription options, visit https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Cc244c73ce10444eaf5f708d763e8c44e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637087723679719753sdata=W0Im4gfNzqKxokPur1%2Bi8S4KCrie5pS%2FGUWkeKrlbCY%3Dreserved=0 List archives can be found at https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Cc244c73ce10444eaf5f708d763e8c44e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637087723679719753sdata=dlNeDOctdjTtEzjqJvmGIfalKfWKK%2FF6Ow%2FdGqML2hc%3Dreserved=0 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit
Re: Here Is An Archive Of WE Apps
thanks, just to let you know someone is still on the list. grin -Original Message- From: David via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2019 11:46 PM To: WE English Mailinglist Cc: David Subject: Here Is An Archive Of WE Apps For those who are interested, I have uploaded an archive of WE apps. This was drawn from the App Central, shortly before the screen reader was discontinued. Hence, I guess it holds pretty much the newest version of the apps. I even have included the very most up-to-date version of the extended Dictionary. This archive holds about 270 apps. A few apps - which were released, but which I never wanted - has been removed. Still, it should fathom quite much of the apps ever released for the screen reader. Please, as I will only keep it there for a short while, make sure to download while it still is available. After downloading, you will have a zipped archive, holding all the WEPM installers for the individaul apps. There even is a folder, holding some older version of certain apps. I kept it there, in case any of it would be of interest, though I am not sure if that really would be so. Below, you will find the links. One starts the download directly, the other require certain user interaction. https://www.dropbox.com/s/345w1unqknmlu9k/WEApps.zip?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/345w1unqknmlu9k/WEApps.zip?dl=1 -- David ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Help needed: Deleting multiple files
no, you hold down the control key and press the space bar on the files you want to delete. when you are through highlighting the files press the delete key. -Original Message- From: Ron or Susan Denis via Talk Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 5:33 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Ron or Susan Denis Subject: Re: Help needed: Deleting multiple files when in the list of files, press control and space bar. Hold the space bar down, andn as you hitch files wyou want to delete, press space bar on each. When you have marked the files you want, presss to delete them. RD -Original Message- From: David via Talk Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 9:29 AM To: WE English Mailinglist Cc: David Subject: Help needed: Deleting multiple files Running Win7. Listers, I have tried figuring this out, but seem to be blank-minded today. Anyone has some experience, please let me know. I have a folder, holding numerous files. I open it in Windows Explorer, and arrow my way down through the list of files. It occurs, that I need to delete several of the files. Fine, if they had been right next to each other, I would have used the Shift-Arrow combinations - selecting the files to be deleted, and then press Del-key. Thing is, the files are spread out all over the list. I need to delete say file number 1, 4 and 6. So exactly how do I go about that one. I searched the net, and it said to use the CTRL-key, along with the mouse. If I hold the CTRL along with the Slash or Star on the numeric keypad, simulating the Left or Right clicks on the mouse, I only hear "Slash" and "Star" spoken, and nothing else happens. It further claimed you alternatively should use CTRL-Space, and it would select the file currently focused. Thing is, I tried that one too, and it still does not work. So what is the clue? How does one select multiple files, in Windows Explorer, with the use of WinEyes. To make it more complicated for you, I did try yet another approach. I used the Insert-Del combination on the numeric keypad. It gave me the chance to MARK but when I did choose to let it do so, on each of the files in question, and then pressed Del to delete - Only the currently focused file will be deleted. In other words, none of the other files I thought I had marked, did actually receive any marking. Hope all of this makes any sense. By The Way, is this kind of operation more accessible in either of the other Screen Readers, NVDA or Jaws. If so, what's the procedure, please? Thanks all, -- David ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs_denis%40bellsouth.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Is there another jaws email list?
your on the window eyes list. but there are probibly very few window eyes users on it anymore. i still use window eyes most of the time and i will continue to use it as long as possible. it is easier to use then jaws will ever be. *** the jaws list was started up again with another moderator last week. maybe you can email the owners to get the info to subscribe. jfw-users+ow...@groups.io this one is from freedom scientific blog. mailto:main+ow...@jfw.groups.io -Original Message- From: joan buzza via Talk Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 8:37 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: joan buzza Subject: Is there another jaws email list? Since the "official" jaws email list is now dead, is there another list? I find these lists extremely informative. I mus add that three days ago, I went to this window eyes list and changed from digest to individual messages. I have not received any messages since, so I am wondering if I messed up. joan ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 1903
many times i have to reload w e when i boot the computer. and this is with windows 7. -Original Message- From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: Friday, August 09, 2019 1:00 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: tfairhu...@kc.rr.com Subject: RE: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 1903 Thanks for your help. I will consider these options if need be. Go figure. It is working today. When installing Window-Eyes, I haven't needed to worry about this. I am aware that in web browsers and some software programs that the mouse keys don't perform well, but they usually work on the desktop and in Winamp, for example. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of net bat via Talk Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 11:59 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: net bat Subject: Re: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 1903 did you try useing the emergency removal tool. this is an option from the w e setup disk. but you should use another synthisizer to do this. it won't say anything until the removal is complete. about 30 seconds. *** some of this may just be cetting changes you need to make. my mouse still speaks when moved over the text. so does the arrow keys. this is a desktop and win10 and 7. the mouse usually will not speak things like dialog boxes or pop up messages in firefox. it was doing this with win7 but win10 is worse. *** look in the mouse settings turn off interuptability in voice set it to instent this may be set to echo nothing. and when mouse passes over a word this can be set to speak word or line etc. i haven't found the option to make the arrow keys speak text on the screen yet. -Original Message- From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 9:13 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: tfairhu...@kc.rr.com Subject: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 1903 This happened occasionally in the past, but a reload of Window-Eyes 9.5.4 usually fixed it. However, now, it seems permanent. The mouse keys read nothing. The corner keys read their function but nothing else. The arrow keys read nothing at all-no text is spoken. Unless I can figure out how to correct this, Window-Eyes 9.5.4 is rapidly becoming extinct. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comca st.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tfairhurst%40k c.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 1903
did you try useing the emergency removal tool. this is an option from the w e setup disk. but you should use another synthisizer to do this. it won't say anything until the removal is complete. about 30 seconds. *** some of this may just be cetting changes you need to make. my mouse still speaks when moved over the text. so does the arrow keys. this is a desktop and win10 and 7. the mouse usually will not speak things like dialog boxes or pop up messages in firefox. it was doing this with win7 but win10 is worse. *** look in the mouse settings turn off interuptability in voice set it to instent this may be set to echo nothing. and when mouse passes over a word this can be set to speak word or line etc. i haven't found the option to make the arrow keys speak text on the screen yet. -Original Message- From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 9:13 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: tfairhu...@kc.rr.com Subject: Window-Eyes and Windows 10 1903 This happened occasionally in the past, but a reload of Window-Eyes 9.5.4 usually fixed it. However, now, it seems permanent. The mouse keys read nothing. The corner keys read their function but nothing else. The arrow keys read nothing at all-no text is spoken. Unless I can figure out how to correct this, Window-Eyes 9.5.4 is rapidly becoming extinct. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Fix for Window-Eyes
you would also loose the option in windows enhanced to boot w e in safe mode. -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2019 12:19 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: Fix for Window-Eyes Hi everyone, For those who are having issues getting Window-Eyes to load at all, or perhaps to load without throwing an error, I think I have a fix. I do believe that three apps are causing problems and should be disabled in the App Manager. These are: Eloquence fix diagnostics windows enhance If you cannot get Window-Eyes to load at all, you can get it to load by pressing the normal hot key to load it, that is, Ctrl-Alt-W, and then quickly press and hold down the left shift key, not the right one, but the left one. This loads Window-Eyes with apps off, and you can then proceed to set app execution to manual in the apps menu. Once you do this, you can go to the app manager, find the above apps, and disable them. After this, you can set app execution to on again, and Window-Eyes should be restored to proper operation. The one functionality of the Windows enhance app which you will miss is the enhanced system tray, where the app would fill the system tray with all the notification area icons it could find. However,you can still manually turn on icons in Windows settings, like you have to do with other screen readers. I hope this helps many of you having troubles. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Windows Update 1903
sorry, your right. when i upgraded i only had version 9.0 full installation disk. and after i upgraded with window eyes still installed and booted up windows 10 went into a endless loop and never got to the desktop. luckily i did this with a backup removable drive. i still had windows 7 on the master drive. i downloaded a full w e 9.2 setup and installed it on the windows 7 drive. then reclone back to the second drive and reinstalled windows 10. it worked that time -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 9:58 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: RE: Windows Update 1903 Netbat, Actually, that is not quite correct. It is not necessary to uninstall Window-Eyes if you are upgrading a Windows 7 machine to Windows 10. Rather, you can leave Window-Eyes installed. After the upgrade, You must reinstall Window-Eyes in order to upgrade the audio driver. Leaving Window-Eyes installed allows you to preserve your Window-Eyes settings after upgrading to Windows 10 and then reinstalling Window-Eyes. Hth, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of net bat via Talk Sent: August 3, 2019 12:24 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: net bat Subject: Re: Windows Update 1903 no. this only applies if you are upgrading from windows 7 to 10. -Original Message- From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 9:18 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: tfairhu...@kc.rr.com Subject: Windows Update 1903 I am upgrading Windows 10 for the first time. I currently have Windows 10 1809. I am being asked to upgrade to version 1903. I have Window-Eyes 9.5.4 on my PC. I want to keep my current programs and settings. I have heard that I must uninstall Window-Eyes first. Is this true? I also currently have JAWS 2019 on my PC. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Windows Update 1903
no. this only applies if you are upgrading from windows 7 to 10. -Original Message- From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 9:18 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: tfairhu...@kc.rr.com Subject: Windows Update 1903 I am upgrading Windows 10 for the first time. I currently have Windows 10 1809. I am being asked to upgrade to version 1903. I have Window-Eyes 9.5.4 on my PC. I want to keep my current programs and settings. I have heard that I must uninstall Window-Eyes first. Is this true? I also currently have JAWS 2019 on my PC. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes enhanced
that takes you to the list of installed apps, weather they are running or not. there you can stop, restart or uninstall each app from the w e program. -Original Message- From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 6:55 PM To: Rod Hutton via Talk Cc: Donald L. Roberts Subject: Re: Window-eyes enhanced Thanks so much, Rod. That worked! Why the process I was following wouldn't work is something I don't purport to understand. I was first opening the control panel, then left arrowing to apps amd [ressing enter, then down arrowing to app management, down arrowing through the various apps until I came to Windows enhanced, at which point I hit enter which kicked me out of the control panel. Go figure! Don Roberts On 7/22/2019 2:28 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Don, Starting fresh, you would open the WE control panel using Ctrl-backslash. Pressing Alt-A should open the Apps menu. Pressing up arrow should bring you to the bottom of the Apps menu, which is ideal since the items on the menu are sorted alphabetically, and so Windows Enhanced would be at or near the bottom. In fact, on my Apps menu it is the last entry on the menu, and so, at this point, it should be highlighted on your menu too. If not, then either the Windows Enhanced app is not running or is not installed. In that case, I would say the easiest solution is to find the Windows Enhanced app package and reinstall it. Hth, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: July 22, 2019 5:11 PM To: /window-eyes Cc: Donald L. Roberts Subject: Window-eyes enhanced Last week, I inquired how to get to the various options within the window-eyes enhanced app. I saw a message from Butch suggesting I go to the dropdown menu. Another respondent suggested I press right arrow after highlighting the app. Unfortunately, neither of these options worked on my system. So I find myself wondering if I have a problem as I am running Windows 10, 1809, 17767.615. Ideas please. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/donald.roberts99%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window-eyes in safe mode
when in the w e control panel open the apps tab notice that all of the apps in the list say they have a pull down. when you find the windows enhanced it will say pull down. right arrow on it and the sub menus will open. one is toast booloons and run in safe mode. pressenter on run in safe mode to check it. the menu will close. if you want to check it to make sure its been selected open it again and it will say run in safe mode will say it has been checked. even so it also depends on what sound card you are useing. my motherboard has a realtek sound card built in and it does work in safe mode and windows 7. i don't know about win 10. the safe mode for win10 is useless as far as i am concerned. how do you boot into safe mode if win10 will not boot? wake up microsoft. f8 with win10 is disabled. there is a way to re activate the f8 startup keys but it doesn't allways work and you need a usb headphone or speakers to get the narrator speech to work. -Original Message- From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 3:12 PM To: net bat via Talk Cc: Donald L. Roberts Subject: Re: window-eyes in safe mode Please pardon a stupid question. I do have windows enhanced on my Windows 10 system. In Netbat's message, he refers to a dropdown list. Specifically, where do I find this dropdown list? The only list I see is the list of installed apps. Thanks. Don Roberts On 7/19/2019 6:27 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: what windows version? first you have to look in the w e control panel in the apps tab. arrow up once to get to the windows enhanced. if you have it in the list open the drop down menu and check run in safe mode. if windows 7 you press f8 while its booting. then arrow down once and press enter. there is no speech for these menus. windows 10 you have to find the option to boot in safe mode from the windows settings somewher. and reboot. after you uninstall the program you have to go back to the settings to turn off the boot in safe mode and reboot. -Original Message- From: Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 4:57 PM To: Rod Hutton via Talk Cc: Butch Bussen Subject: window-eyes in safe mode I was trying to install some drivers today from a cd and it installed avast, which doesn't talk and I can't remove it. I was thinking there was a way to use we in safe mode, and I'm not sure how I get there. Is it f 7 or f 8, I don't recall. Any help appreciated. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/donald.roberts99%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window-eyes in safe mode
what windows version? first you have to look in the w e control panel in the apps tab. arrow up once to get to the windows enhanced. if you have it in the list open the drop down menu and check run in safe mode. if windows 7 you press f8 while its booting. then arrow down once and press enter. there is no speech for these menus. windows 10 you have to find the option to boot in safe mode from the windows settings somewher. and reboot. after you uninstall the program you have to go back to the settings to turn off the boot in safe mode and reboot. -Original Message- From: Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 4:57 PM To: Rod Hutton via Talk Cc: Butch Bussen Subject: window-eyes in safe mode I was trying to install some drivers today from a cd and it installed avast, which doesn't talk and I can't remove it. I was thinking there was a way to use we in safe mode, and I'm not sure how I get there. Is it f 7 or f 8, I don't recall. Any help appreciated. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: set file updates on windows 10
the update outdated is used to convert incompatible versions of set files to the newest format. not to download updated set files. the gw server has been shutdown so the get app program won't update the apps. it says there are no apps installed. but i was able to use the add remove apps and in there is the option to check for updates and this worked and i got 2 apps updated. so the availible updates message is gone for now. thanks -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2019 3:31 AM To: net bat via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: set file updates on windows 10 I have no idea why you'd get such a notification. About the only thing you can do is open the Window-Eyes control panel, Alt+F File, arrow up twice to Update outdated settings, and press enter. Otherwise, perhaps someone has a clean collection of all the latest set files. Good luck, Tom On 7/5/2019 2:29 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: how can i update the set files for w e 9.5 on windows 10? i am not getting the notification from w e but from the windows notification area. the only choice i get is to save the notification. i don't see that notification in the messages list after i save it so i can't do anything with it. i have windows set to keep the notifications on the screen for 2 minutes. this doesn't help. thanks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: just checking program
i think you downloaded the wrong program. it only costs $14 to register just checking. anyway it is not accessible with jaws, w e or nvda. -Original Message- From: PaPaC. via Talk Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 7:01 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: PaPaC. Subject: Re: just checking program thanks I tried it but u have to pay 99$99 per uyearYear I will try it out On 6/29/19, BK via Talk wrote: There is no link to download the older versions, but if you want to download version 4, you can use the link below. https://justapps.com/download-checkbook-software-windows.html ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ochikodinaka%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com -- for if you persaveer. you will konker never feer. try try try again ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: just checking program
i tried it. it is not usable with any screen reader anymore. jaws,we or nvda will not work with it. it doesn't even tell you whech edit box you are in when you enter the the info i couldn't even use the import wizard to import the data from my version 2.4 because the files in the list does not speak. it just says 1 of 17, 2 of 17 etc. -Original Message- From: BK via Talk Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 6:36 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: BK Subject: Re: just checking program There is no link to download the older versions, but if you want to download version 4, you can use the link below. https://justapps.com/download-checkbook-software-windows.html ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: just checking program
its still availible. but it is version 4 for windows 7 to 10 so i don't know if it is still accessible. i still use version 2.24 the demo allows 20 transactions and costs $14 to buy. https://justapps.com/download-checkbook-software-windows.html this is there web page and does not have any adds that will install without you knowing about it. -Original Message- From: BK via Talk Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 7:09 PM To: gw micro Cc: BK Subject: just checking program Hello, GW Micro used to recommend a small program called, just checking. Does anyone know the name of the company that made that program, or its web address? I couldn't find it online. Thanks. Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Installing Win10
you also have to have version 9.2 or later or it will not install again. -Original Message- From: Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 12:03 PM To: Carol and Roger via Talk Cc: Butch Bussen Subject: Re: Installing Win10 If you do upgrade, be sure and uninstall window-eyes. I did two systems with microsoft disability help desk and it went into a loop with window-eyes installed and no way to get out of it without blowing the entire drive away. The second system, I uninstalled windoweyes, did the upgrade from seven, and then reinstalled window-eyes. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 20 Jun 2019, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: My suggestion would be to check with the people at the Microsoft accessibility desk. The reason I suggest this is that my Windows 7 computer was not compatible with the upgrade. It was a Depp PC and both Microsoft and Dell said not to upgrade as all that would happen would be that my PC would be in a permanent loop. It might be worth talking with Microsoft for help. Their number is (800) 936-5900. Carol On 6/20/2019 2:07 PM, David via Talk wrote: To the tech guys on this list, In about 6 months Microsoft will end the support for Win7. My Good old working-horse of a computer might then be retired to make it for a backup system. I do have a computer stored away in a closet, which has a broken version of Win8.1 on it. That is, it does not start up, only presents some kind of an error screen, informing me the Windows is not a valid version. Was a computer I bought second-handed, and apparently the seller was no honest guy. Now, I wonder if I might go for a full version of Win10, and simply wipe out the old hard drive on that computer, and do a totally clean install of Win10. I would be buying the Win10, through the Microsoft store, and hence get a downloadable of the operative system. Never been using Win10, and only have paid half an ear to any discussion on the matter. But I seem to remember something about it being possible for a blind to install the OS all without eyes. Is that correct, and does it even apply when I will be doing a clean - all from scratch - installation? Could of course go and buy a brand new computer, but they tend to be loaded with all kinds of bloatware, over here. And the store I saw the other day, offering to install a clean win10 on their new systems, asked a price for the windows, about 20% more than what I see it advertised in Microsoft Store. Would then be a better business to get the broken win8 machine of mine going. Thanks for all input you can give me on the matter. I will not be doing my choice all at this time, but will be nice to know what to do, once the right time or offer comes up. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: updated firefox question
thats jaws 2018 and 2019 and n v d a. -Original Message- From: mack via Talk Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 2:18 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: mack Subject: updated firefox question using win 7 64 bit. i downloaded a portable copy of most recent firefox, did not want to get rid of my 52.e s r version in program files. however, w/e always causes firefox to crash. has anyone found a work around? i have NVDA and jaws, if there is no work around. . -- from Mack ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: updated firefox question
firefox 52 is the last version w e will work with. browse mode can not be turned on and it will crash in a few seconds after your portible version is loaded. jawss 18 and higher and n v d a will work with it. -Original Message- From: mack via Talk Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 2:18 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: mack Subject: updated firefox question using win 7 64 bit. i downloaded a portable copy of most recent firefox, did not want to get rid of my 52.e s r version in program files. however, w/e always causes firefox to crash. has anyone found a work around? i have NVDA and jaws, if there is no work around. . -- from Mack ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: can't associate set file for desktop.
make sure all 13 menu items are showing in the w e control panel. if there are only 7 items you will have to open the w e help pull down menu and checke show advanced options. then all the menu items will show. *** if you have the same situation as i had. . . . when you open the w e control panel and it says i squared.set go directly to associations, current association. it should have the ductsberry set file there . but tab to the association combo box and change from none to by class and save the association. then from then on it should load the correct set file. -Original Message- From: richard kurlander via Talk Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 8:37 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: richard kurlander Subject: Re: can't associate set file for desktop. I have the same problem with duxbury where I want to take out the windoweyes script since everytime I open duxbury aisquared comes up. rod told me the same thing doesn't work. if you are awake in the us. can you call me 7182387130At 06:19 PM 1/12/2019, you wrote: thanks, i got it working. i did all of this. when w e loaded and on the desktop the file that w e said is associated when i first open the w e control panel was windowslivemail.set but the file that was showing in current associations was explorer.set. not windowslivemail.set. so i could not disassociate it. i found out that even though explorer.set was shoing in current associations it showed it was set to none. once i told it to use by class and saved it. it is useing the explorer.set file every time now when i first load w e. -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 6:37 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: RE: can't associate set file for desktop. Hi Netbat, First, ensure that Show Advanced Options is checked on the Help menu within the WE control panel. Place focus on the desktop, and then open the WE control panel. Press A to highlight the Association node within the treeview. Press right arrow to expand the Association node, and then right arrow again to highlight Current Association. Press Tab twice to place focus on the Association By combo box. Press down arrow twice to select None. Tab once to place focus on the Save and Associate button, and then press the spacebar to activate it. Press Escape to close the WE control panel, and your task is complete. Hth, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of net bat via Talk Sent: January 11, 2019 8:15 PM To: via Talk Cc: net bat Subject: can't associate set file for desktop. if theres anyone left. grin i have w e 9.5? i have a minor problem when w e first loads with windows 7. it loads with the windows live mail set file when it gets to the desktop or when on the desktop and i manually reload w e. i have to open the w e control panel and close it. then the explorer set file will become the associated set file. when i open the w e control panel it says windowslivemail.set is loaded and is the associated set file. but when i get to the file associations menu it says explorer is the loaded set file and this is the one associated. i can disassociate this and it will use default.set and mone. but w e still loads with the windowslivemail.set file every time i boot to the desktop or reload w e after i am on the desktop. i can't disassociate the windowslivemail and start over. thanks if there is anyone out there. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Frod_hutton%2540hotmail.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C06fbeab6cfa84a6426a608d6782b85b0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636828525647074436sdata=AACyEY0rD2tWDquyYXfThEefZTU8XoqWn288j3Mq3y0%3Dreserved=0. For subscription options, visit https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C06fbeab6cfa84a6426a608d6782b85b0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636828525647074436sdata=WqYWO1Z%2BwyIZN2a4uzikkXvVGUrPVcS1jYRkv1xbO%2Fk%3Dreserved=0 List archives can be found at https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C06fbeab6cfa84a6426a608d6782b85b0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636828525647074436sdata=0t3mR2wjK4V%2FAPIiMz6w0aiKzOKRTR2mbJqSG%2FYDa0k%3Dreserved=0 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat
Re: can't associate set file for desktop.
thanks, i got it working. i did all of this. when w e loaded and on the desktop the file that w e said is associated when i first open the w e control panel was windowslivemail.set but the file that was showing in current associations was explorer.set. not windowslivemail.set. so i could not disassociate it. i found out that even though explorer.set was shoing in current associations it showed it was set to none. once i told it to use by class and saved it. it is useing the explorer.set file every time now when i first load w e. -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 6:37 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: RE: can't associate set file for desktop. Hi Netbat, First, ensure that Show Advanced Options is checked on the Help menu within the WE control panel. Place focus on the desktop, and then open the WE control panel. Press A to highlight the Association node within the treeview. Press right arrow to expand the Association node, and then right arrow again to highlight Current Association. Press Tab twice to place focus on the Association By combo box. Press down arrow twice to select None. Tab once to place focus on the Save and Associate button, and then press the spacebar to activate it. Press Escape to close the WE control panel, and your task is complete. Hth, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of net bat via Talk Sent: January 11, 2019 8:15 PM To: via Talk Cc: net bat Subject: can't associate set file for desktop. if theres anyone left. grin i have w e 9.5? i have a minor problem when w e first loads with windows 7. it loads with the windows live mail set file when it gets to the desktop or when on the desktop and i manually reload w e. i have to open the w e control panel and close it. then the explorer set file will become the associated set file. when i open the w e control panel it says windowslivemail.set is loaded and is the associated set file. but when i get to the file associations menu it says explorer is the loaded set file and this is the one associated. i can disassociate this and it will use default.set and mone. but w e still loads with the windowslivemail.set file every time i boot to the desktop or reload w e after i am on the desktop. i can't disassociate the windowslivemail and start over. thanks if there is anyone out there. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Frod_hutton%2540hotmail.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C06fbeab6cfa84a6426a608d6782b85b0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636828525647074436sdata=AACyEY0rD2tWDquyYXfThEefZTU8XoqWn288j3Mq3y0%3Dreserved=0. For subscription options, visit https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C06fbeab6cfa84a6426a608d6782b85b0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636828525647074436sdata=WqYWO1Z%2BwyIZN2a4uzikkXvVGUrPVcS1jYRkv1xbO%2Fk%3Dreserved=0 List archives can be found at https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C06fbeab6cfa84a6426a608d6782b85b0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636828525647074436sdata=0t3mR2wjK4V%2FAPIiMz6w0aiKzOKRTR2mbJqSG%2FYDa0k%3Dreserved=0 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
can't associate set file for desktop.
if theres anyone left. grin i have w e 9.5? i have a minor problem when w e first loads with windows 7. it loads with the windows live mail set file when it gets to the desktop or when on the desktop and i manually reload w e. i have to open the w e control panel and close it. then the explorer set file will become the associated set file. when i open the w e control panel it says windowslivemail.set is loaded and is the associated set file. but when i get to the file associations menu it says explorer is the loaded set file and this is the one associated. i can disassociate this and it will use default.set and mone. but w e still loads with the windowslivemail.set file every time i boot to the desktop or reload w e after i am on the desktop. i can't disassociate the windowslivemail and start over. thanks if there is anyone out there. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Word Advanced Features
in some instences the app will not run until the associated program is also running. with other apps they will run all the time. is this the only app that is not running? or do all of them say not running? check that the app status is turned on. -Original Message- From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:43 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Tom Fairhurst Subject: Word Advanced Features If any of you are still out there, I recently discovered that my Word Advanced Features app is not working. I found that the package is installed, but it won’t run. How can I fix this? Thanks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: my set files changed.
i don't know, i run as a standard user. but i have to load w e as administrator when a program i load requires to run as administrator. but even then the time and date keys still work in this mode. when i copied my backup w e default folder back i did this in my standard windows account and left the administrator account alone because it still works. grin. -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2018 1:50 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: RE: my set files changed. Hi, It just occurred to me what must have happened. Somehow the All Users Profile must have become active. You know, this is the one which is available when you run WE as Administrator and then you can switch to it in the Profiles node. Unless you uninstalled the Insert-key layout app from the All Users Profile, it would still exist in your installation of WE, just waiting for an inadvertent switch to the All Users Profile. Well, that's my two-cents worth, Canadian currency. Smile All the best, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of net bat via Talk Sent: December 2, 2018 1:43 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: net bat Subject: Re: my set files changed. i replaced my w e default folder with my backup folder and it is working again. i always turn everything off with a power strip when i go to bed. there were a few times when the computer turned itself on, even with a complete shutdown. at least no one can hack my computer when it is off. they can in sleep mode if the power strip is still turned on. no risk of the computer power supply catching on fire while i am asleep. extending the life of the computer and the bearings in the fans. etc. -Original Message- From: David via Talk Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2018 9:47 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: David Subject: Re: my set files changed. Jst for the fun, in all this playing around, did you try restarting your computer? Have seen a few cases, where some behavior sticks, and once the computer has been restarted, things work normally again. Just be aware, I am talking about a real restart, not just going in and out of sleeping or hibernation mode. Worth to keep in mind, should you run into a similar case later on. David On 12/2/2018 2:46 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Very strange. But I'm glad you were able to get it back in line. Regards, Tom On 12/2/2018 2:36 AM, net bat via Talk wrote: i re installed the wineyes and global factory set files with no change. then i copied my backup default folder from 2 days ago and it is working now. thanks. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2018 9:21 PM To: net bat via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: my set files changed. Very strange; especially be it that you can change it and it works and when you change it back to Insert+T it speaks the title. Just for the heck of it I'd try turning apps off. If that doesn't work I'd try assigning Insert+T to something else and see if it works there. Good luck, Tom On 12/1/2018 10:16 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: nope, this didn't make any difference. the time date hot keys are set to global andinsert t. but they are doing the same thing as the control shift t keys for program titles. i did find out if i change the time and date hot keys to other keys it will work and when i oput it back to insert t it speaks the program title again. there were no warnings that another hot key was assigned when i put it back. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2018 6:47 PM To: net bat via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: my set files changed. Check the Keyboard > Layouts and make sure it's set to Window-Eyes defaults. There were also some JAWS and I think other keyboard layouts included in a script with hot keys to turn them on, which I did exactly once by accident before uninstalling those scripts. This is why I uninstall all scripts I'm never going to use. Hth, Tom On 12/1/2018 9:17 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: this is a weerrd one. w e the last version. all of a sudden, when i press insert t to get the time it is saying default normal instead. i didn't make any changes to any of the set files. it is doing this when running any program. in the hot keys/miscelanious menu it is defined as insert t. figure this out. rebooting the computer did not make any difference. i hope i don't have to reset the factory set files. thanks ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Ftom.kingston%2540charter.netdata=02%7C01%7C%7Cdb84ede36a6d46a3f76b08d658862
Re: my set files changed.
i replaced my w e default folder with my backup folder and it is working again. i always turn everything off with a power strip when i go to bed. there were a few times when the computer turned itself on, even with a complete shutdown. at least no one can hack my computer when it is off. they can in sleep mode if the power strip is still turned on. no risk of the computer power supply catching on fire while i am asleep. extending the life of the computer and the bearings in the fans. etc. -Original Message- From: David via Talk Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2018 9:47 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: David Subject: Re: my set files changed. Jst for the fun, in all this playing around, did you try restarting your computer? Have seen a few cases, where some behavior sticks, and once the computer has been restarted, things work normally again. Just be aware, I am talking about a real restart, not just going in and out of sleeping or hibernation mode. Worth to keep in mind, should you run into a similar case later on. David On 12/2/2018 2:46 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Very strange. But I'm glad you were able to get it back in line. Regards, Tom On 12/2/2018 2:36 AM, net bat via Talk wrote: i re installed the wineyes and global factory set files with no change. then i copied my backup default folder from 2 days ago and it is working now. thanks. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2018 9:21 PM To: net bat via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: my set files changed. Very strange; especially be it that you can change it and it works and when you change it back to Insert+T it speaks the title. Just for the heck of it I'd try turning apps off. If that doesn't work I'd try assigning Insert+T to something else and see if it works there. Good luck, Tom On 12/1/2018 10:16 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: nope, this didn't make any difference. the time date hot keys are set to global andinsert t. but they are doing the same thing as the control shift t keys for program titles. i did find out if i change the time and date hot keys to other keys it will work and when i oput it back to insert t it speaks the program title again. there were no warnings that another hot key was assigned when i put it back. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2018 6:47 PM To: net bat via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: my set files changed. Check the Keyboard > Layouts and make sure it's set to Window-Eyes defaults. There were also some JAWS and I think other keyboard layouts included in a script with hot keys to turn them on, which I did exactly once by accident before uninstalling those scripts. This is why I uninstall all scripts I'm never going to use. Hth, Tom On 12/1/2018 9:17 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: this is a weerrd one. w e the last version. all of a sudden, when i press insert t to get the time it is saying default normal instead. i didn't make any changes to any of the set files. it is doing this when running any program. in the hot keys/miscelanious menu it is defined as insert t. figure this out. rebooting the computer did not make any difference. i hope i don't have to reset the factory set files. thanks ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.
Re: my set files changed.
nope, this didn't make any difference. the time date hot keys are set to global andinsert t. but they are doing the same thing as the control shift t keys for program titles. i did find out if i change the time and date hot keys to other keys it will work and when i oput it back to insert t it speaks the program title again. there were no warnings that another hot key was assigned when i put it back. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2018 6:47 PM To: net bat via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: my set files changed. Check the Keyboard > Layouts and make sure it's set to Window-Eyes defaults. There were also some JAWS and I think other keyboard layouts included in a script with hot keys to turn them on, which I did exactly once by accident before uninstalling those scripts. This is why I uninstall all scripts I'm never going to use. Hth, Tom On 12/1/2018 9:17 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: this is a weerrd one. w e the last version. all of a sudden, when i press insert t to get the time it is saying default normal instead. i didn't make any changes to any of the set files. it is doing this when running any program. in the hot keys/miscelanious menu it is defined as insert t. figure this out. rebooting the computer did not make any difference. i hope i don't have to reset the factory set files. thanks ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
my set files changed.
this is a weerrd one. w e the last version. all of a sudden, when i press insert t to get the time it is saying default normal instead. i didn't make any changes to any of the set files. it is doing this when running any program. in the hot keys/miscelanious menu it is defined as insert t. figure this out. rebooting the computer did not make any difference. i hope i don't have to reset the factory set files. thanks ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Question re window-eyes set files
the set file for the desktop and in my pc should be explorer.set. this is a default set file installed with w e. also i don't know if this app is responsible for how the folder lists show. but see if the microsoft app is running. -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 3:59 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: RE: Question re window-eyes set files Hi Don, I doff my chapeau to the insights already offered by Netbat and Tom, and I just wanted to say that on my machine, there is no set file association for either the desktop, any folder list view, nor This PC. When I go to the Window-Eyes control panel when is either of these three places, the active set file is default.set and it says "associated: None." Also, I've seen the problem you describe fix itself, and so there is hope. Smile All the best, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Donald Roberts via Talk Sent: November 26, 2018 10:13 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Donald Roberts Subject: Question re window-eyes set files I have two Windows 10 desktops running version 1803, and of course my screen reader of choice is Window-eyes 9.5.4. On my Dell desktop, Window-eyes announces the names of the folders and drives in this pc just fine. I opted to do a clean install of Windows 10 and wipe the drive on my HP desktop. After installing Window-eyes, the drive and folder names are not stated. All I hear for each is "group status." However, if I hit enter on any of these, I hear the appropriate content although the drive and folder names are not verbalized. Conversely, if I load Jaws 18, drive and folder names are verbalized correctly. This makes me wonder whether this is a set file issue, particularly because those things are properly verbalized on my Dell machine which as stated above is running W E 9.5.4. If someone can shed some light on this problem and the appropriate fix, I would be most grateful. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Frod_hutton%2540hotmail.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ca042a338cb8a444dbcaf08d654165670%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636788852243818318sdata=fHJgZC9xC1r5uZcSj5ajzAyeZcdf1GyvxVmjvgTjYBg%3Dreserved=0. For subscription options, visit https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ca042a338cb8a444dbcaf08d654165670%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636788852243818318sdata=yOD1IfxpLh3bUthE2G9Hvp5PSScBp4d%2BBOrwtLlR67k%3Dreserved=0 List archives can be found at https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ca042a338cb8a444dbcaf08d654165670%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636788852243818318sdata=5buZTQhcNnlT%2F5dw1JU3R8f3LmxqE%2FT35FA%2BenSA%2FyA%3Dreserved=0 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Question re window-eyes set files
i would look at the folder options in the windows views options. i don't know where to go for this with windows 10. there are options to group folders by name and this can be turned off. -Original Message- From: Donald Roberts via Talk Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 7:13 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Donald Roberts Subject: Question re window-eyes set files I have two Windows 10 desktops running version 1803, and of course my screen reader of choice is Window-eyes 9.5.4. On my Dell desktop, Window-eyes announces the names of the folders and drives in this pc just fine. I opted to do a clean install of Windows 10 and wipe the drive on my HP desktop. After installing Window-eyes, the drive and folder names are not stated. All I hear for each is "group status." However, if I hit enter on any of these, I hear the appropriate content although the drive and folder names are not verbalized. Conversely, if I load Jaws 18, drive and folder names are verbalized correctly. This makes me wonder whether this is a set file issue, particularly because those things are properly verbalized on my Dell machine which as stated above is running W E 9.5.4. If someone can shed some light on this problem and the appropriate fix, I would be most grateful. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Question About WLM
as far as the windows are conserned they usually do not stay maximized. once you reload wlm they usually revert back to the state they were before. *** if you can find it try re installing the wlm app. this also has the set files wlm uses. a few times i had to do this because something happend to the installation and i had to re install it to get it working again. -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 4:13 PM To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: Question About WLM Nope, didn't cure the problem. Bob . -Original Message- From: Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 3:28 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen Subject: Re: Question About WLM Try to maximize both the parent window (the mailbox listing) and then the child window where the message is being displayed or edited. These sometimes get set to normal and begin working after they are maximized. Alt-spacebar for the main window, and alt-dash spacebar for the child window, as it used to be with some of the older Windows programs. Hope this helps. 73, Lloyd Rasmussen, W3IUU, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 2:24 PM To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Question About WLM I open WLM. I can read what I write in the text of the email I am creating. Then the 2nd email I creatE, I can't read what I write. In order to read what I write in the text, I have to close WLM and then open it again. Anyone know how to fix this? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Check out my performing schedule: www.ringwald.com/schedule.php Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV "If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be." Lawrence Peter (Yogi) Berra, B5-12-1925, D9-22-2015 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: w e sounds
go to control panel, sounds, then find the control tab for sounds. by pass the sound scheme name and save as until you get to program events. with me window eyes sounds are the last option in the list. there are 6 sounds. if they are un defined it will say there is none. if so this is where you will have to tab to browse and search for each w e sound. they would be in c:\program files x86\gwmicro\wineyes. they are not in the windows\media folder. unless you know which file belongs to each event you would have to try each of them until the are associated to the right event. there is a test button in the sounds program to try the sound out you are useing. if you mess up you can click on cancel and the sounds will revert back to the way it was before you made any changes. -Original Message- From: Natalie via Talk Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:36 PM To: net bat via Talk Cc: Natalie Subject: Re: SPAM: Re: w e sounds So you find the sounds you want and then go to the program folder to somehow create a path? Will try it and maybe WE will tell me more. You're right. The sounds don't just pop back. Natalie On 9/13/2018 3:02 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: its all here in the last message. if you have ever changed your windows themes. like from windows basic to windows 7 it will un define the window eyes sounds. they are in the sounds in the control panel. then tab the windows sounds. then find window eyes sounds. there are 6 of them. they will be undefined. it will say none for there sounds. but you will have to browse for the sounds they are not in the windows/media folder. they are in the program files x86/gwmicro/wineyes folder. -Original Message- From: geodom--- via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:47 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: geo...@optonline.net Subject: Re: w e sounds I have lost most of my window eyes sounds, too, again. How do I do this? Pam. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:32 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: net bat Subject: w e sounds search for change system sounds. then tab to sound events. use first letter navagation for w to find window eyes sounds. they may still be there. if so you would have to set the path to the window eyes folder where the wave files are. there are 6 sounds. i don't remember how to add system sounds if the w e sounds ar not there though. -Original Message- From: Natalie via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 4:26 PM To: net bat via Talk Cc: Natalie Subject: Re: SPAM: Re: Latest Firefox ESR - 60 I think I have an unrelated WE question which you might be able to answer. For some reason I just lost all of the WE sounds. Is there any way I can retrieve them? Natalie Johnson On 9/12/2018 7:13 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: no, f f 52 is the last version that w e will work with. w e will crash as soon as you run the f f 60 version and would have to reboot the computer most of the time. go into the tools menu some where and turn off updateing. i don't know where it is. its baried somewhere i found it once and turned it off and i am not being nagged anymore. -Original Message- From: Brenda via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:29 AM To: windoweyesus...@groups.io ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Brenda Subject: Latest Firefox ESR - 60 I think I was prompted to update to Firefox ESR 60 (). I haven't done this because I read a post about the update not working with Window Eyes or even Jaws. There were no comments on the GW Talk list or this list as to more than one person having the issue. Is it safe to update? Thanks, Brenda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nataliej%40kingcon.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription
Re: w e sounds
its all here in the last message. if you have ever changed your windows themes. like from windows basic to windows 7 it will un define the window eyes sounds. they are in the sounds in the control panel. then tab the windows sounds. then find window eyes sounds. there are 6 of them. they will be undefined. it will say none for there sounds. but you will have to browse for the sounds they are not in the windows/media folder. they are in the program files x86/gwmicro/wineyes folder. -Original Message- From: geodom--- via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:47 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: geo...@optonline.net Subject: Re: w e sounds I have lost most of my window eyes sounds, too, again. How do I do this? Pam. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:32 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: net bat Subject: w e sounds search for change system sounds. then tab to sound events. use first letter navagation for w to find window eyes sounds. they may still be there. if so you would have to set the path to the window eyes folder where the wave files are. there are 6 sounds. i don't remember how to add system sounds if the w e sounds ar not there though. -Original Message- From: Natalie via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 4:26 PM To: net bat via Talk Cc: Natalie Subject: Re: SPAM: Re: Latest Firefox ESR - 60 I think I have an unrelated WE question which you might be able to answer. For some reason I just lost all of the WE sounds. Is there any way I can retrieve them? Natalie Johnson On 9/12/2018 7:13 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: no, f f 52 is the last version that w e will work with. w e will crash as soon as you run the f f 60 version and would have to reboot the computer most of the time. go into the tools menu some where and turn off updateing. i don't know where it is. its baried somewhere i found it once and turned it off and i am not being nagged anymore. -Original Message- From: Brenda via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:29 AM To: windoweyesus...@groups.io ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Brenda Subject: Latest Firefox ESR - 60 I think I was prompted to update to Firefox ESR 60 (). I haven't done this because I read a post about the update not working with Window Eyes or even Jaws. There were no comments on the GW Talk list or this list as to more than one person having the issue. Is it safe to update? Thanks, Brenda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nataliej%40kingcon.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: w e sounds
in most cases a reinstall is not needed. you will lose your sounds if you have changed your windows themes. in my case the sounds were still there in the windows sounds but undefined. i searched for change system sounds and it took me to the list of the wave files windows can use. find the window eyes sound and re define them. there are 6 sounds. but when you do you have to set the path to the sounds. they are not in the windows media folder where all the other windows sounds are stored. they are in the program files x86\gwmicro\wineyes folder. -Original Message- From: Orlando Enrique Fiol via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Orlando Enrique Fiol Subject: Re: w e sounds At 11:47 PM 9/12/2018, geodom--- via Talk wrote: I have lost most of my window eyes sounds, too, again. How do I do this? Pam. If you can reinstall Window-eyes, you'll get your sounds back. Otherwise, I could email them to you as attachments. Orlando Enrique Fiol Ph.D. Candidate in Music Theory University of Pennsylvania Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer and Pedagogue Home: (980) 585-1516 Mobile: (267) 971-7090 Email: of...@verizon.net ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: w e sounds
one way the sounds are turned off is when you change windows themes. -Original Message- From: Natalie via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 5:42 PM To: net bat via Talk Cc: Natalie Subject: Re: SPAM: w e sounds Thanks. Will fiddle with it but, like you, not quite sure how and if this will work. New idea anyway. I wonder why they went away in the first place. On 9/12/2018 8:32 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: search for change system sounds. then tab to sound events. use first letter navagation for w to find window eyes sounds. they may still be there. if so you would have to set the path to the window eyes folder where the wave files are. there are 6 sounds. i don't remember how to add system sounds if the w e sounds ar not there though. -Original Message- From: Natalie via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 4:26 PM To: net bat via Talk Cc: Natalie Subject: Re: SPAM: Re: Latest Firefox ESR - 60 I think I have an unrelated WE question which you might be able to answer. For some reason I just lost all of the WE sounds. Is there any way I can retrieve them? Natalie Johnson On 9/12/2018 7:13 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: no, f f 52 is the last version that w e will work with. w e will crash as soon as you run the f f 60 version and would have to reboot the computer most of the time. go into the tools menu some where and turn off updateing. i don't know where it is. its baried somewhere i found it once and turned it off and i am not being nagged anymore. -Original Message- From: Brenda via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:29 AM To: windoweyesus...@groups.io ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Brenda Subject: Latest Firefox ESR - 60 I think I was prompted to update to Firefox ESR 60 (). I haven't done this because I read a post about the update not working with Window Eyes or even Jaws. There were no comments on the GW Talk list or this list as to more than one person having the issue. Is it safe to update? Thanks, Brenda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nataliej%40kingcon.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nataliej%40kingcon.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Latest Firefox ESR - 60 I think
also check that the w e status is turned on. if it is off none of the script files will run. -Original Message- From: Natalie via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 4:26 PM To: net bat via Talk Cc: Natalie Subject: Re: SPAM: Re: Latest Firefox ESR - 60 I think I have an unrelated WE question which you might be able to answer. For some reason I just lost all of the WE sounds. Is there any way I can retrieve them? Natalie Johnson On 9/12/2018 7:13 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: no, f f 52 is the last version that w e will work with. w e will crash as soon as you run the f f 60 version and would have to reboot the computer most of the time. go into the tools menu some where and turn off updateing. i don't know where it is. its baried somewhere i found it once and turned it off and i am not being nagged anymore. -Original Message- From: Brenda via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:29 AM To: windoweyesus...@groups.io ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Brenda Subject: Latest Firefox ESR - 60 I think I was prompted to update to Firefox ESR 60 (). I haven't done this because I read a post about the update not working with Window Eyes or even Jaws. There were no comments on the GW Talk list or this list as to more than one person having the issue. Is it safe to update? Thanks, Brenda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nataliej%40kingcon.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
w e sounds
search for change system sounds. then tab to sound events. use first letter navagation for w to find window eyes sounds. they may still be there. if so you would have to set the path to the window eyes folder where the wave files are. there are 6 sounds. i don't remember how to add system sounds if the w e sounds ar not there though. -Original Message- From: Natalie via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 4:26 PM To: net bat via Talk Cc: Natalie Subject: Re: SPAM: Re: Latest Firefox ESR - 60 I think I have an unrelated WE question which you might be able to answer. For some reason I just lost all of the WE sounds. Is there any way I can retrieve them? Natalie Johnson On 9/12/2018 7:13 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: no, f f 52 is the last version that w e will work with. w e will crash as soon as you run the f f 60 version and would have to reboot the computer most of the time. go into the tools menu some where and turn off updateing. i don't know where it is. its baried somewhere i found it once and turned it off and i am not being nagged anymore. -Original Message- From: Brenda via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:29 AM To: windoweyesus...@groups.io ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Brenda Subject: Latest Firefox ESR - 60 I think I was prompted to update to Firefox ESR 60 (). I haven't done this because I read a post about the update not working with Window Eyes or even Jaws. There were no comments on the GW Talk list or this list as to more than one person having the issue. Is it safe to update? Thanks, Brenda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nataliej%40kingcon.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Latest Firefox ESR - 60 I think
no, f f 52 is the last version that w e will work with. w e will crash as soon as you run the f f 60 version and would have to reboot the computer most of the time. go into the tools menu some where and turn off updateing. i don't know where it is. its baried somewhere i found it once and turned it off and i am not being nagged anymore. -Original Message- From: Brenda via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:29 AM To: windoweyesus...@groups.io ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Brenda Subject: Latest Firefox ESR - 60 I think I was prompted to update to Firefox ESR 60 (). I haven't done this because I read a post about the update not working with Window Eyes or even Jaws. There were no comments on the GW Talk list or this list as to more than one person having the issue. Is it safe to update? Thanks, Brenda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Considering VoiceOver
no license. but how much would a new mac cost every 5 years when apple stops all support for the operateing system, and security upgrades. -Original Message- From: Van Lant, Robin via Talk Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 1:11 PM To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Van Lant, Robin Subject: RE: Considering VoiceOver I think her point is that she won't have to pay to maintain a screen reader license once on a Mac platform. I like Voiceover on my phone, but cannot bring myself to invest in a Mac, especially while still using Windows at work. NVDA is certainly a nice option to keep the cost out of the Windows picture. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of net bat via Talk Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 1:30 PM To: via Talk Cc: net bat Subject: Re: Considering VoiceOver try the free n v d a. and jaws is a lot easier to upgrade then the i phone. you will have the same problem if you are going to use the i phone. it has to be updated about twice per year you need a i tunes account and computer to upgrade it. and half the time i have to restore the phone because the upgrade failed. you will have virtually no access to any files saved on the phone like you have with windows. after about 3 years apple will not give any more upgrades for the phone. the same with a apple mac. it gets to the point where you will get a pop up telling you you need to get a new computer when you try to upgrade safari. my neace hit this point last year on her 5 year old mac. etc. etc. -Original Message- From: George Savory via Talk Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 10:57 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: George Savory Subject: Considering VoiceOver Listers, Been using Win-Eyes since Win-Eyes 3X. As Win-Eyes will not be updated, I am strongly considering going to VoiceOver on Apple. Using VoiceOver on my iPhone with Safari works perfectly. I don't know if Jaws will ever work well with websites that use calenders; besides, I won't have to be upgrading a screen reader everytime there is an upgrade ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/robin.van.lant%40key.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to mailto:dnereque...@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Considering VoiceOver
try the free n v d a. and jaws is a lot easier to upgrade then the i phone. you will have the same problem if you are going to use the i phone. it has to be updated about twice per year you need a i tunes account and computer to upgrade it. and half the time i have to restore the phone because the upgrade failed. you will have virtually no access to any files saved on the phone like you have with windows. after about 3 years apple will not give any more upgrades for the phone. the same with a apple mac. it gets to the point where you will get a pop up telling you you need to get a new computer when you try to upgrade safari. my neace hit this point last year on her 5 year old mac. etc. etc. -Original Message- From: George Savory via Talk Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 10:57 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: George Savory Subject: Considering VoiceOver Listers, Been using Win-Eyes since Win-Eyes 3X. As Win-Eyes will not be updated, I am strongly considering going to VoiceOver on Apple. Using VoiceOver on my iPhone with Safari works perfectly. I don't know if Jaws will ever work well with websites that use calenders; besides, I won't have to be upgrading a screen reader everytime there is an upgrade ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: APP Central
the main page is still there. but with firefox the app central page will generate a error report and you can not go any further. with i e i do get the certificate error but can continue to the app central page when you egnore the error. -Original Message- From: geodom--- via Talk Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 9:39 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: geo...@optonline.net Subject: Re: APP Central There is no more GW Micro homepage. I went to look for it a long time ago and couldn't find it. Pam. -Original Message- From: David via Talk Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 11:26 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: David Subject: Re: APP Central Though downloading apps from App Central never required any password or other identification, this kind of warnings should always make red lights come on. Either the site is just insecure, and will never be renewed, due to FS letting WinEyes die out. Or, someone has hacked the site, and might eventually have hacked the apps found there as well. Sum of it all: Stay clear. Whatever is wrong with the GWMicro homepage, all guesses would be that you will never see them fixed. Only reason why it even still is possible to find any such site, would be no less than a guesswork. Likely it only shows how little FS even bothers, since they have not even closed the server altogether, I should think. Next will be this list, which might break without any further notice. Either because some kind of subscribed service from the GW team will expire, or FS remembers to pull the plug. No, I am not trying to be negative; just trying to let you know that likely your warning message is all perfectly right. You are warned, and should heed that message. How to best obtain the apps you are looking for? Give us a list, and see if you will receive the installers for each and every of the apps you were used to benefit from. Likely someone here, or on the other WinEyes list, will have the installer backed up somewhere. Further, i do seem to recall someone here on the list, recently posting a link to a Dropbox collecdtion of the app central. Even if you could get it, keep in mind that some apps might be outdated, or even rather sluggish under modern usage. In such cases, you are left to contact the app developer directly, hoping they have some updates for you. Whether we want to or not, we will have to face the fact that WinEyes is slowly being phased out. App Central has not been reliable for several months, and it's final does not surprise at all. Only surprise is, how long they let it stay oparative. On 8/23/2018 2:11 PM, Ayers, David (ITCS) via Talk wrote: Hi All, In a blunder of trying to create a mobile version of Win-Eyes 9.5.4, I re-installed the mobile copy to my desktop. So, I re-installed the normal version again. Everything is running ok, however, when I start up the computer, I get the app update notice. I try to install the updates, but nothing happens. I tried going to APP Central from the Win-Eyes menu and received the following notice. I have not tried to go to the unsecured site. Your connection is not private e Attackers might be trying to steal your information from www.gwmicro.com (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards). Learn more NET::ERR_CERT_DATE_INVALID system information and page content Privacy policy system information and page content Privacy policy BACK TO SAFETY ADVANCED This server could not prove that it is www.gwmicro.com; its security certificate expired 78 days ago. This may be caused by a misconfiguration or an attacker intercepting your connection. Your computer's clock is currently set to Thursday, August 23, 2018. Does that look right? If not, you should correct your system's clock and then refresh this page. Proceed to www.gwmicro.com (unsafe) David Ayers ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent
NVDA Mobile?
NVDA does have a portable version. NVDA installed you can create a portable version from the tools menu. you do have to manually create a folder on your flash drive first and a internet connection because it downloads some files to the flash drive. i think it still uses the e speak voice by default on the portable version. i think this would be better if you use the portible on other computers because NVDA would not know which microsoft voices are on each computer. I think you might have better luck with NVDA even though it doesn't have a mobile version in the true sense of the word. As of today though, unless something changes after I punch the Send button for this message, no Jaws Mobile! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: trying to run 16 bit programs in 64 bit seven
this probibly won't work. but give it a try. right click on the program icon. click on properties then find the compatibility. there is the option to make it think it is running under another version of windows. with windows 7 it can be set back all the way back to windows 95. depending on the drivers the programs are useing it still might work. -Original Message- From: Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 6:11 AM To: Rod Hutton via Talk Cc: Butch Bussen Subject: trying to run 16 bit programs in 64 bit seven I decided to upgrade to an hp machine that is windows seven 64 bit. I'm finding that many of my favorite programs won't run as they are 16 bit versions. I have an old dos version of pc braille that I still like and use and would run it under 4nt in 32 bit seven or xp command prompt with no problems. Wondering if anyone has any suggestions. I did a bit of searching and see there is a 64 bit program I think called dos box which says will run some dos programs. Has anyone used this and is it usable with speech. Does a person have to run vocal-eyes for speech? I really don't want to give up these programs. If I had to, would a 32 bit version of seven install on this 664 bit machine which is an hp z 220. Thanks. If you want you can write off list to but...@shellworld.net or but...@fairpoint.net which will show up as from tiny puppy. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
window eyes apps?
maybe all of the app authors could get together and setup a web page for the window eyes apps so any updates could be downloaded from one place, outside of the window eyes site? -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 7:43 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: RE: Weather or Not Hi Loy, That's okay. A fellow lister wrote me privately and provided a link to the package for me. Here it is on my DropBox if you would like it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8xxcvdpcjaau2gd/weatherornot4.0.0.wepm?dl=1 Thanks, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Loy Green via Talk Sent: June 29, 2018 10:34 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Loy Green Subject: Re: Weather or Not That is the version that WE show as the one installed. I would be glad to share but I don't know where to find the app. - Original Message - From: Rod Hutton via Talk To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 10:23 AM Subject: RE: Weather or Not Hi Loy, If you have DropBox or some other file sharing service, and can find the package, would you be willing to share a link to it for me? Thanks, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Loy Green via Talk Sent: June 29, 2018 10:12 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Loy Green Subject: Re: Weather or Not I have Weather or not 4.0 and it still works. - Original Message - From: Rod Hutton via Talk To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 9:38 AM Subject: RE: Weather or Not Hi Carol, Yes, I tried it out, and it doesn't yield any weather data for some major U.S. cities I tried. I looked into the code of the app and found that it uses Wunderground for its weather data, and, after going to the site and exploring a bit, it seems like they don't share weather data freely anymore. So, perhaps AI Square released an update using another weather service, if you can find a newer version. Smile Thanks, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: June 29, 2018 8:14 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Carol and Roger Subject: Re: Weather or Not Hi Rod, Here is one version. Let me know if it is not the latest and I will see if I have more on another drive. Carol https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dropbox.com%2Fs%2Fmy9mho0ficpb92m%2Fweatherornot3.7.1.wepm%3Fdl%3D0=02%7C01%7C%7C8cbb077f5f284262d93008d5ddb9d547%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636658712565214984=%2FR3XkXt9AEIll9ib90UKtmMNW7mddfJWwxU%2BIrqR%2Bfk%3D=0 On 6/29/2018 7:49 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: > Hi, > > Would anyone happen to have the Weather or Not app package and, if so, could you dsend a link to it for me? > App Central seems to be down, probably forever. > > Many thanks, > > Rod > > Sent from Outlook for Windows > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fcarogsmith%2540embarqmail.com=02%7C01%7C%7C8cbb077f5f284262d93008d5ddb9d547%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636658712565214984=z6wL7l%2Fmq1LbE8b57OJ5IZvNYDD4XdXLxOsAJ7RSryw%3D=0. > For subscription options, visit https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com=02%7C01%7C%7C8cbb077f5f284262d93008d5ddb9d547%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636658712565214984=tPXmFRvKAbo%2BBLvat3Gi4TTvRhhvBYKpNq8YkMq%2BswU%3D=0 > List archives can be found at https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com=02%7C01%7C%7C8cbb077f5f284262d93008d5ddb9d547%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636658712565214984=f2IoQMyQdLOiRJmAtEd1WIHE51osBUFjGE5OQBgZC9A%3D=0 > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Frod_hutton%2540hotmail.com=02%7C01%7C%7C8cbb077f5f284262d93008d5ddb9d547%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636658712565214984=X0o8bdpRErhwF28JM58c8%2B0RdIlx14cp%2B59pzvoSKJM%3D=0. For subscription options, visit
Re: JAWS question
sorry. i am talking about what i do with jaws. so far i have been able to use the normal windows commands to do this. go to the first line of text you want and hold down the shift key. arrow down to the last line of text you want then press control c to copy to the clip board. then go to the app you want to copy it to and press control v to paste the text. done. -Original Message- From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 8:13 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Subject: RE: JAWS question And, 400 keystrokes to boot to get a simple task done; here's an example of such task: With Window-Eyes, selecting a long passage or even a short one involves a press of the F8 key. When the desired text has been selected, press F8 again and choose between copying the selected text with all formatting retained, or simply copying to the Clipboard with Alt-C. Now, let's do the same task using Jaws: 1. Start with a press of Control-Windows-K to set a place marker 2. Next, select all the text you wish to copy and pray that it selects everything without a hitch 3. Now, with your preferred text selected, press Insert-Space, then M 4. One gets to know that the entire text has been selected 5. Now, press Control-C to Copy the selected text to the Clipboard. 'Ouch, why is a simple task so complicated? Ask Jaws and good luck if you get an answer! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: JAWS question
so far i have been able to use the normal windows commands to do this. go to the first line of text you want and hold down the shift key. arrow down to the last line of text you want then press control c to copy to the clip board. then go to the app you want to copy it to and press control v to paste the text. done. -Original Message- From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 8:13 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Subject: RE: JAWS question And, 400 keystrokes to boot to get a simple task done; here's an example of such task: With Window-Eyes, selecting a long passage or even a short one involves a press of the F8 key. When the desired text has been selected, press F8 again and choose between copying the selected text with all formatting retained, or simply copying to the Clipboard with Alt-C. Now, let's do the same task using Jaws: 1. Start with a press of Control-Windows-K to set a place marker 2. Next, select all the text you wish to copy and pray that it selects everything without a hitch 3. Now, with your preferred text selected, press Insert-Space, then M 4. One gets to know that the entire text has been selected 5. Now, press Control-C to Copy the selected text to the Clipboard. 'Ouch, why is a simple task so complicated? Ask Jaws and good luck if you get an answer! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: need help with Ebay page
for now you can use the w e find command and search for the dollar sign to go to each auction then arrow back to the description and click on it to get to each auction. i have done this many times to by pass the greedy sellers that are charging more then it would cost at a regular store. like if you only want to pay about 20 dollars you can use a w e search like $2 and it will only stop at auctions that are charging $20 to $29 but it will also stop at shipping charges that start with $2. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 9:36 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: net bat Subject: Re: need help with Ebay page keep this for future reference. https://www.ebay.com/help/terms-conditions/default/ebay-users-special-access-needs?id=4658 ebay changed the programming some how for headings last week. they did this 2 years ago too. then they put the headings for auctions back after i told them about it. w e does not see the headings with the searches now. but jaws 2018 does. i didn't try n v d a yet. one thing you can do is after you do a search find the link that says something like how did we do, send feedback like i did yesterday. i told them that i use the headings to skip to each auction. maybe ebay will put them back. -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 7:11 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Carol and Roger Subject: need help with Ebay page Hi Group, My brother has an issue with WE and Ebay that I do not have. My page works properly, his does not. When I go to a page and do a search, I get a standard page and pressing H takes me to each heading for the search results (once I have gotten past the typical Ebay headings.) Let's say we do the same search. My result is that I get 63 headings and 42 results. He does the exact same search and gets 15 headings and the only way he can get to the search results is to tab through all of the 200 links. Therefore, he has to listen to all kinds of extraneous information like buy it now, price, shipping cost, etc. My headings simply go to the next item. He is making a guess that there are three columns on his screen and the information he wants is in the middle column, but WE will not take him there. Even if he does a search and finds the first result, he still can not get to the next item by pressing H. If anyone can give me a hand in trying to help him, this would be greatly appreciated. He has had this issue once before and was able to restore the computer to a previous setting and all worked properly again. The other issue with this situation is that his wife, when his screen was not working correctly the previous time, had a normal screen. This time, both screens are messed up and he can not find out how to disable his anit-virus, whish I believe is AVG. His restore says he can not restore due to his anti-virus blocking the restore process. Thanks for any assistance. Carol ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: need help with Ebay page
i forgot. i am useing windows 7 , 64bit both jaws 2018 and n v d a finds all the headings w e 9.5 does not anymore. but i did send ebay feedback about it. -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 7:11 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Carol and Roger Subject: need help with Ebay page Hi Group, My brother has an issue with WE and Ebay that I do not have. My page works properly, his does not. When I go to a page and do a search, I get a standard page and pressing H takes me to each heading for the search results (once I have gotten past the typical Ebay headings.) Let's say we do the same search. My result is that I get 63 headings and 42 results. He does the exact same search and gets 15 headings and the only way he can get to the search results is to tab through all of the 200 links. Therefore, he has to listen to all kinds of extraneous information like buy it now, price, shipping cost, etc. My headings simply go to the next item. He is making a guess that there are three columns on his screen and the information he wants is in the middle column, but WE will not take him there. Even if he does a search and finds the first result, he still can not get to the next item by pressing H. If anyone can give me a hand in trying to help him, this would be greatly appreciated. He has had this issue once before and was able to restore the computer to a previous setting and all worked properly again. The other issue with this situation is that his wife, when his screen was not working correctly the previous time, had a normal screen. This time, both screens are messed up and he can not find out how to disable his anit-virus, whish I believe is AVG. His restore says he can not restore due to his anti-virus blocking the restore process. Thanks for any assistance. Carol ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: need help with Ebay page
keep this for future reference. https://www.ebay.com/help/terms-conditions/default/ebay-users-special-access-needs?id=4658 ebay changed the programming some how for headings last week. they did this 2 years ago too. then they put the headings for auctions back after i told them about it. w e does not see the headings with the searches now. but jaws 2018 does. i didn't try n v d a yet. one thing you can do is after you do a search find the link that says something like how did we do, send feedback like i did yesterday. i told them that i use the headings to skip to each auction. maybe ebay will put them back. -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 7:11 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Carol and Roger Subject: need help with Ebay page Hi Group, My brother has an issue with WE and Ebay that I do not have. My page works properly, his does not. When I go to a page and do a search, I get a standard page and pressing H takes me to each heading for the search results (once I have gotten past the typical Ebay headings.) Let's say we do the same search. My result is that I get 63 headings and 42 results. He does the exact same search and gets 15 headings and the only way he can get to the search results is to tab through all of the 200 links. Therefore, he has to listen to all kinds of extraneous information like buy it now, price, shipping cost, etc. My headings simply go to the next item. He is making a guess that there are three columns on his screen and the information he wants is in the middle column, but WE will not take him there. Even if he does a search and finds the first result, he still can not get to the next item by pressing H. If anyone can give me a hand in trying to help him, this would be greatly appreciated. He has had this issue once before and was able to restore the computer to a previous setting and all worked properly again. The other issue with this situation is that his wife, when his screen was not working correctly the previous time, had a normal screen. This time, both screens are messed up and he can not find out how to disable his anit-virus, whish I believe is AVG. His restore says he can not restore due to his anti-virus blocking the restore process. Thanks for any assistance. Carol ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Missing Hot Keys
look in the w e control panel in the list of hot keys. i have had a few times when all the hot keys on the list were erased because of a mal programmed script file. i don't remember which w e factory default file that has the default hot keys in them. i deleted all my saved gwmicro messages i had. but there is a way to get them back without haveing to re install w e. -Original Message- From: Debra Hill via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 3:59 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Debra Hill Subject: Missing Hot Keys Hi, It seems some of the WE hot keys are missing and I have no reason why this has happened. The hot keys are: time instert+t; status cntrl-shift-s; and the status line says "speak all" with insert+s. There may be more which I have not discovered. I hav restarted my laptop and there was no change. If anyone else is having this problem or knows howto fix this, I would appreciateany and all suggestions or help. I am using Windows 10 and MS Office 2013. Have a blessed day! Deborah ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: windows 10??
are you sure the power settings in the control panel is set to sleep? it might be set to shut down in x number of minutes or hours instead. in this case you would have to press the power button to turn it back on. -Original Message- From: Tony C via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 5:37 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Tony C Subject: Re: windows 10?? Hi, Moveing the mouse does nothing. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 6:20 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: net bat Subject: Re: windows 10?? you have to move the mouse then it will wake up. -Original Message- From: Tony C via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 3:31 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Tony C Subject: windows 10?? Hello guys, I have a del XPS desktop running windows 10. I have the latest version of jaws. When my pc goes to sleep I cannot get it to wake again without using the power button to force a restart. Why might this be happening. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tch828%40mediacombb.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: windows 10??
you have to move the mouse then it will wake up. -Original Message- From: Tony C via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 3:31 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Tony C Subject: windows 10?? Hello guys, I have a del XPS desktop running windows 10. I have the latest version of jaws. When my pc goes to sleep I cannot get it to wake again without using the power button to force a restart. Why might this be happening. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
desktop in task bar
you have to change the windows scheme its either windows 7 basic or classic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVRiOCTvud4 -Original Message- From: net bat Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 9:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Hello you have to change the windows scheme. its either windows 7 basic or classic. but this will probibly change the disktop colors and icon layouts too if you have modified them. I am using WE 9.5.4 with Windows 7 64-bit Pro. Suddenly, the desktop has come back into the Alt-Tab order. I know this has been discussed before, but I have forgotten how to remove it from there. A little Google searching shows that it’s necessary to make registry changes. I don’t recall this being necessary. Thanks for any help. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Hello
you have to change the windows scheme. its either windows 7 basic or classic. but this will probibly change the disktop colors and icon layouts too if you have modified them. -Original Message- From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 3:20 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Tom Fairhurst Subject: Fw: Hello I also get the task switching message when Alt-Tabbing. From: Tom Fairhurst Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 1:34 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Hello I am using WE 9.5.4 with Windows 7 64-bit Pro. Suddenly, the desktop has come back into the Alt-Tab order. I know this has been discussed before, but I have forgotten how to remove it from there. A little Google searching shows that it’s necessary to make registry changes. I don’t recall this being necessary. Thanks for any help. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: from window eyes to jaws to NVDA
you don't have to stop useing window eyes . both can co exist fine. all i have to do is unload window eyes and then load jaws when i want to work with it. or set it so jaws will load on bootup instead. jaws can be unloaded with insert or capslock and f4 keys you can change the jaws key from the insert key to the capslock key two ways. by changeing to the laptop layout. or if useing the desktop layout you can go to the settings center then to keyboard and insert keys i think its called and change between the insert or capslock key for the jaws key. -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 5:23 PM To: lynn white via Talk Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: from window eyes to jaws to NVDA I realize that you can't speak for others, and that each of us has different needs, priorities, and biases, but I wonder why why some find Jaws to be clunky while others (such as you) are quite satisfied. I wonder if using "outdated" software (such as Windows-7) contributes to the problem. That said, while I took advantage of the Jaws offer, I have yet to migrate to Jaws and have yet to download Windows-10. Things are running smoothly and I hate to rock the boat. The other issue which makes me hesitate is Jaws' reliance on the insert key. I use a left-handed keyboard with the microsoft feature Sticky Keys and have never really understood how to incorporate the insert feature with the caps lock key, but I digress. On 2/22/2018 3:10 PM, lynn white via Talk wrote: Not to be contrary, I've been a Jaws user at home for over three years and love it after being a devoted Window-Eyes user since almost day one. I used Jaws for a number of years at work. But, when they offered a great home use program, I jumped at the chance and was glad that I did even though I hated to see Window-Eyes go. My personal feeling is that one is better served by having access to more than one screen reader as well as learning more than one internet browser. Praise the Lord that we have choices. I will say that these upgrades to these products gets rather expensive. Not blaming Freedom Scientific. But, when you have a family and/or you also have other interests or needs, even the sma program becomes another cost that requires budget juggling. On 2/22/2018 12:36 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote: I also think Jaws sucks! I wasted money migrating to jaws. Don't remember the cost for 2 upgrades, somewhere around 120 bucks. I gave it a go for about one month and said F it! Been using NVDA ever since. occasionally use window eyes navigating windows itself, like control, panel, settings etc. MS one core voice David sounds pretty good in NVDA. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lynnwhite360%40radioforlife.info. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: version 9.5.4
because if you find a full version it would be illegal and probibly would be infected with a virus or malware. or it would be a 20 minute demo. -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 5:12 PM To: Donald L. Roberts via Talk Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: version 9.5.4 Since VFO (apparently) no longer supports WE, why do you need a serial number? Why not just take a chance that there are old versions (for download) floating around the net? On 2/22/2018 4:05 PM, Donald L. Roberts via Talk wrote: I hope this request won't cause any list member to get bent out of shape as it certainly is not intended to offend anyone. Yesterday, I contacted V F O to request a link to the Window-eyes version 9.5.4. I did so because my copy is acting flaky, so I wanted to completely uninstall and subsequently reinstall it. Unfortunately, my CD has been damaged and is now unplayable. V F O said that they discontinued that service, so I am now up the creek without a paddle if or until some kind soul will provide me with a copy of the program along with a serial number. I know my serial number, but it does me no good because I do not believe that I could substitute my serial for the one on another user's CD. So I will say no more but hope that some kind list member will write me off list at: donald.robert...@gmail.com . Thanks for any assistance. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: version 9.5.4
have you tried cleaning the cd? all those finger prints will make the cd unreadable. grin i also have all my cd's stored on carbinite and microsoft one drive as backups. -Original Message- From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Donald L. Roberts Subject: version 9.5.4 I hope this request won't cause any list member to get bent out of shape as it certainly is not intended to offend anyone. Yesterday, I contacted V F O to request a link to the Window-eyes version 9.5.4. I did so because my copy is acting flaky, so I wanted to completely uninstall and subsequently reinstall it. Unfortunately, my CD has been damaged and is now unplayable. V F O said that they discontinued that service, so I am now up the creek without a paddle if or until some kind soul will provide me with a copy of the program along with a serial number. I know my serial number, but it does me no good because I do not believe that I could substitute my serial for the one on another user's CD. So I will say no more but hope that some kind list member will write me off list at: donald.robert...@gmail.com . Thanks for any assistance. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: version 9.5.4
have you tried cleaning the cd? all those finger prints will make the cd unreadable. grin -Original Message- From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Donald L. Roberts Subject: version 9.5.4 I hope this request won't cause any list member to get bent out of shape as it certainly is not intended to offend anyone. Yesterday, I contacted V F O to request a link to the Window-eyes version 9.5.4. I did so because my copy is acting flaky, so I wanted to completely uninstall and subsequently reinstall it. Unfortunately, my CD has been damaged and is now unplayable. V F O said that they discontinued that service, so I am now up the creek without a paddle if or until some kind soul will provide me with a copy of the program along with a serial number. I know my serial number, but it does me no good because I do not believe that I could substitute my serial for the one on another user's CD. So I will say no more but hope that some kind list member will write me off list at: donald.robert...@gmail.com . Thanks for any assistance. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Version 9.5.4
its not in the menu list. press the alt key to open the pull down menus. help is there in there you will find the help manualls, about, and check for updates, which won't find any. grin -Original Message- From: Patricia Krinke via Talk Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:32 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Patricia Krinke Subject: Re: Version 9.5.4 Thank all of you for trying to help me; however, I cannot find HELP. Control backslash does not open to what it used to. Below is what control backslash opens to: Screen Keyboard Mouse Hot Keys Cursor Keys General Braille Verbosity Dictionary User Windows Association Devices Profile Another suggestion? Thank you, Trish -Original Message- From: Charles Adkins via Talk Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 8:04 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Charles Adkins Subject: Re: Version 9.5.4 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 19, 2018, at 4:13 PM, Loy Green via Talkwrote: Open the WE control panel with control backslash and go to about under the help menu. - Original Message - From: Patricia Krinke via Talk To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Patricia Krinke Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 3:15 PM Subject: Re: Version 9.5.4 How does one get to the serial number nowadays? I have forgotten how, and maybe it doesn't matter anymore. Trish -Original Message- From: Loy Green via Talk Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 2:01 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Loy Green Subject: Re: Version 9.5.4 Contact VFO. They were giving out links to download, but not sure if they are still doing so. - Original Message - From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk To: Rod Hutton Cc: Donald L. Roberts Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 2:33 PM Subject: Version 9.5.4 Hello, I need to reinstall Window-eyes 9.5.4 but cannot locate my CD. I do of course have my serial number but want to know if there is somewhere from where I can download the CD. Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/krinke1968%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cadkins6739%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.comAs of a few weeks ago vfo was giving out a download link if you qualified of course. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/krinke1968%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List
Re: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box?
tap the home button 3 times real fast and voice over will turn on. then you can go through the setup yourself. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 6:35 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Totally OT! How to get a new iPhone talking out of the box? I've got a new iPhone coming tomorrow and assume Siri won't work out of the box and the triple button press isn't on by default. Any way to get it talking or do I have to wait for eyes? Thanks, Tom ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Need Help Window-Eyes pARAMETERS
if the advanced options is not checked you will only see 2 choices under keyboard. voices and layout. you have to press enter on the advanced options to turn it on or off. not the space bar. -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 3:34 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: Need Help Window-Eyes pARAMETERS I DON'T SEE SPECIAL KEYS UNDER KEYBOARD. -bOB -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 11:49 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: net bat Subject: Re: Need Help Window-Eyes pARAMETERS its in keyboard/special keys -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 11:29 AM To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Need Help Window-Eyes pARAMETERS Window-Eyes announces tab, up arrow, down arrow, etc. I can’t find the parameter to stop this. Any help? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Check out my performing schedule: www.ringwald.com/schedule.php Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV "If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be." Lawrence Peter (Yogi) Berra, B5-12-1925, D9-22-2015 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rsr%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Need Help Window-Eyes pARAMETERS
you have to turn on advanced features in the w e help pull down before these options will show in the menu list. -Original Message- From: Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 1:13 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen Subject: Re: Need Help Window-Eyes pARAMETERS Keyboard is the root of a tree view that has 5 items. The third of these is Special. Once you are on the Special branch, start tabbing and you should find "cursor movement." Down arrow once to turn Cursor Movement off, then press Enter to save your settings. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 3:34 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: Need Help Window-Eyes pARAMETERS I DON'T SEE SPECIAL KEYS UNDER KEYBOARD. -bOB -Original Message----- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 11:49 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: net bat Subject: Re: Need Help Window-Eyes pARAMETERS its in keyboard/special keys -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 11:29 AM To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Need Help Window-Eyes pARAMETERS Window-Eyes announces tab, up arrow, down arrow, etc. I can’t find the parameter to stop this. Any help? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Check out my performing schedule: www.ringwald.com/schedule.php Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV "If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be." Lawrence Peter (Yogi) Berra, B5-12-1925, D9-22-2015 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Need Help Window-Eyes pARAMETERS
open the w e control panel and go to help. check show edvanced options. then you will see all 13 menu items. and the special keys options ounder keyboard. -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 12:34 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: Need Help Window-Eyes pARAMETERS I DON'T SEE SPECIAL KEYS UNDER KEYBOARD. -bOB -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 11:49 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: net bat Subject: Re: Need Help Window-Eyes pARAMETERS its in keyboard/special keys -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 11:29 AM To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Need Help Window-Eyes pARAMETERS Window-Eyes announces tab, up arrow, down arrow, etc. I can’t find the parameter to stop this. Any help? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Check out my performing schedule: www.ringwald.com/schedule.php Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV "If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be." Lawrence Peter (Yogi) Berra, B5-12-1925, D9-22-2015 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Need Help Window-Eyes pARAMETERS
its in keyboard/special keys -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 11:29 AM To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Need Help Window-Eyes pARAMETERS Window-Eyes announces tab, up arrow, down arrow, etc. I can’t find the parameter to stop this. Any help? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Check out my performing schedule: www.ringwald.com/schedule.php Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV "If the world was perfect, it wouldn't be." Lawrence Peter (Yogi) Berra, B5-12-1925, D9-22-2015 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Hot key for starting JAWS?
you have to define it yourself in the jaws desktop icon. open a context menu on the icon, choose properties. then go to the shortcut edit box and use j. this will define the control alt j key for the shortcut. keep in mind though., that you will have to define different key combonations for each version of jaws you have installed. they can not all use the same shortcut keys. window eyes is the same way. the shortcut keys are in the window eyes icon. -Original Message- From: Bryan Peterson via Talk Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:30 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Bryan Peterson Subject: Hot key for starting JAWS? As the subject says, I’ve been trying to figure out how to assign a hot key to start JAWS since there doesn’t seem to be one by default. I have looked in the manual but unless I just missed it there doesn’t seem to be anything. I’ve gotten so used to WE having Control+Alt+W, so I wanted to do something with JAWS. Any help would be appreciated. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Windows Live Mail Attachment
i'm not sure. but i think this is a bisness card attachment. check to see that you haven't got wlm setup to send a bisness card. -Original Message- From: peter Chin via Talk Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 2:53 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: peter Chin Subject: Windows Live Mail Attachment Hello List members, I am using Windows Live Mail version 2012 as my email client. I hope that those who are using the same client can shed some light on my problem. I notice that when I send out mail, there is always an attachment of a small file, named "Peter Chin.vcf". It is only 56 bytes in size. Why is this file attached and how can I get rid of it? Thanks for any help you can give. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Windows 10 creater upgrade and window eyes 9.5.4
try this. if you have the w e cd use the emergency removal tool. its in the setup screen but you need another screen reader to find it. if it works you will only get a message that w e has been completely removed from your computer. -Original Message- From: David Crowell via Talk Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:48 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: David Crowell Subject: Windows 10 creater upgrade and window eyes 9.5.4 Hi I have been trying for several weeks to do the windows 10 upgrade to creator but am having no luck. I have had sighted assistance and still can not get things to install properly. Here is the issue. I know wE had to be removed for the installation so that was done. Then the download and install of creator was taking place when I got a message saying WE 9.1 and 9.2 had to be removed from the computer before creator could install. This makes no sense at all because in the add remove programs WE 9.5.4 is the only WE program on this computer. WE was installed from a disc so I am at my wits end on how to get creator downloaded and installed. Any help would be greatly appreciated because I am tired of getting messages constantly saying windows creator can not be installed and to click this link to fix the issue. Yes, this has been done several times but constantly get the message about older versions of WE. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Windows-10 Upgrade Question
you need to uninstall window eyes first if you have windows 7 because the video drivers are not the same with windows 10. you also need window eyes version 9.2 or higher before it will run on windows 10. -Original Message- From: Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 4:53 PM To: Nick Sarames via Talk Cc: Butch Bussen Subject: Re: Windows-10 Upgrade Question Yep, Rod is right. pro is $200 after the cut off date. I upgraded a couple of my machines just because. Not my main ones yet. Had lots of problems, long long story. In neither case would the upgrade program work. had to use their media creater and get full version and then did upgrade from that. Also, in both cases, window-eyes seemed to have a conflict leaving it. Had to do a uninstall and reinstall. First machine I had we set to run at startup and it just put the machine in a loop rebooting, so had to blow that completely away, so no way to go back to seven on that one. On the second machine, I set it not to run. When I tried, locked up the machine, so I just rebooted. Are we having fun yet? 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. rOn Thu, 11 Jan 2018, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: Thanks Rod, I realize there are issues with WE & 10, but as far as you know, can WE handle the basics? My hope was to be able to get comfortable (somewhat) with 10 before tackling Jaws. On 1/11/2018 7:12 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Nick, Well, all I can do is recommend that you read the following page carefully and I believe you will conclude that the upgrade is free until Jan. 16, and, after then, you'll be paying the usual cost of the version of Windows 10 you require: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade Best, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: January 11, 2018 3:23 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion ListCc: Nick Sarames Subject: Windows-10 Upgrade Question This is sort of one of those questions where, Mommy says no, but I'm hoping Daddy will say yes. I clicked on the Windows-10 upgrade, and I'm given the choice to run or save. I'd like to be able to save the file until after the free upgrade has passed (when a 3rd party (my sighted friend) can assist me. A rep from Microsoft disability says my request cannot be accomplished. Is this true? Is there any other way around it? And while I'm at it, how much will this upgrade cost after the deadline? Please Daddy? Thanks in advance. Nick ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List
Re: Neo Speech Voices
i think you are wrong. i have a ivona voice and it is 64 bit sapi. my old neo speech is only 16 bit that i have been useing for 12 years. it works too. -Original Message- From: Reeva Webb via Talk Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 1:03 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Reeva Webb Subject: Re: Neo Speech Voices Hi, if they want neospeech voices for jaws, they have to buy sapi5 versions from neospeech directly. It's $69 for one voice, $99 for two. They email you demo download, you download the one you need. For screenreder use you need 32 bit. Even if you use 64 bit system. Once you download and confirm demo works you pay for the voices. They email you verification license once you've paid. You go to there website and put the number from verfication email in to get the file yiu need to copy and paste on your system for the voices you bought. email sa...@neospeech.com and they'll walk them through buying voices for personal use. "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho Reeva On Dec 4, 2017 11:09 PM, "Debby Franson via Talk" < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: Hi everyone! I have a friend who uses System Access some and JAWS a lot more these days. She has the Neospeech voices on System Access and loves them, and she was asking me if there is any way to get those voices for Jaws 18. I told her I'd ask on the lists I am on. She was also asking if the voices are easy to install if she can get them. If you know the exact link to those voices, that would help her, too. Thanks for any help. Debby ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/o ptions.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jadedangelpromises%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/l istinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/p rivate.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Firefox query
n v d a does work with firefox 57 if the accessibility option in the tools pull down menu, i think is turned on. -Original Message- From: Debby Franson via Talk Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 8:00 PM To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Debby Franson Subject: Re: Firefox query Hi! I kept this in my inbox, so I thought I'd answer with my latest experiences with Firefox. The Control-N workaround worked for me in Window-Eyes 9.5.4 until last Tuesday, I think it was when Firefox updated itself, making it useless for me in Windows 7 Pro 32 bit. I have the business edition aka Firefox ESRthat my husband got for me, which I will install very soon. I wanted to remember to try Firefox in NVDA to see whether it was a Window-Eyes issue or a Firefox issue, and Firefox is just as useless now in NVDA, at least over here. Here is an article about the new Firefox. It sounds like from this article that there is a Firefox/Chrome war, on Firefox's side, anyway. I hope Chrome doesn't follow in the footsteps of Firefox, because I like Chrome a lot. Here's the title of the article and the link to it. What's New in Firefox Quantum, the Firefox You've Been Waiting For https://www.howtogeek.com/332449/whats-new-in-firefox-quantum/ Debby At 05:12 AM 10/22/2017, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote After Firefox 56.01 came out, even the ctrl-N workaround doesn't work because we have been switched over to the 64-bit version of Firefox. Browse mode becomes unavailable at that point. If you are going to continue to use Window-Eyes, you must use browsers other than Firefox. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 4:16 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: Firefox query Did you try control-shift-a? Actually, if you've been reading the threads of the last few days, you're gonna have to open another window in Firefox, control-n. On 10/22/2017 2:29 AM, Jesse delMuro via Talk wrote: Hi guys. So, trying to utilize Firefox much like IE but in many cases, if not all, the webpages load but MSAA (or browse mode) isn't on automatically. Never seen _that before, so how to get it too work or turn it on using Mozilla Firefox? Any help much appreciated. Jesse On 10/21/2017 9:52 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: firefox 52 is the last version that will fully work with window eyes. there is still the 52.4 for businesses esr and it upgrades once per year. around march of next year. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/ -Original Message- From: Debby Franson via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 6:59 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Debby Franson Subject: Firefox Updated and I'm Unable to Navigate Hi! I didn't have this problem until today when Firefox updated. I can only tab and Shift-Tab through the links with MSAA turned off. The arrow keys do nothing, and, if MSAA is turned on, I only get a ding and no navigation works. I have never seen this behavior before today. I'm using Windows 7 32 bit with Window-Eyes 9.5.4.0. Debby ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jdelmuro%40gmx.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window
Re: typing passwords with jaws
with some web sites you don't hear the stars until you tab out and back into the edit field and arrow over them. more and more sites give you the option to show your password. so what purpose does it serve to hide them. -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 10:36 AM To: BK via Talk Cc: brice Mijares Subject: Re: typing passwords with jaws Myself, I only copy and paste my password for logging into my bank account because it's like 18 characters long. The rest of my passwords I type them in. I don't hear anything when I type in passwords, no star, nothing. All my passwords are stored on a thump drive, not in my computer! I say, to each there own. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: typing passwords with jaws
sorry. but i can not concentrate on what i am typeing and listen to star,star,star at the same time. turning the volume off is not the anser either. i want to hear what i am typeing so i am not locked out of my accounts. -Original Message- From: Marvin Commerford via Talk Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 10:44 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Marvin Commerford Subject: Re: typing passwords with jaws Sorry to be a bit of a crab but a novel idea might be to practice typing until you get good enough to type passwords accurately. I've been working with blind students for over 10 years. They know from the beginning that they need to get good enough with the keyboard to correctly type passwords. They do the work to get better which pays off for them in doing all of their computer work. The copy and paste method of enterring passwords is interesting. However, if people have enough skills to do that they may be close to being able to type them in. On 11/18/2017 6:32 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: I have a friend that has a file with all of her passwords and other log-in information. She copies hers from that list in order to make sure it is correct. Carol On 11/18/2017 1:31 AM, net bat via Talk wrote: and why do home bodies need this? there's no one here to see the passwords. so why can't i turn the stars off like window eyes can? i only have 3 tries before i am locked out of my accounts. and some of them will only unlock my accounts by sending me a unlock code by mail. not by email. so i could be locked out for weeks. i have to use window eyes for passwords. or type them in note pad and copy and paste them into the password fields. we should have the choice to speak or not speak the keys you press in the password fields. my requests to f/s just falls on deaf ears. they have not responded to any of my jaws questions to date. -Original Message- From: Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 9:35 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Dennis Long Subject: RE: typing passwords with jaws It's done this way for security. Think about it a sighted person couldn't see it either it would appear as stars or dots. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 8:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: typing passwords with jaws WE does the same thing, and as much as I don't like not knowing what I am typing, I like the security of knowing I am typing my password in the correct field. On 11/17/2017 5:56 PM, BK via Talk wrote: Hello, jaws says star, star, star, when I type in a password. Does anyone know how to change this so that jaws will say what is actually being typed. I like to hear the actual characters, so I know I am typing the password correctly. Thanks. Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/carogsmith%40embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/mcommerford%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely
Re: typing passwords with jaws
and why do home bodies need this? there's no one here to see the passwords. so why can't i turn the stars off like window eyes can? i only have 3 tries before i am locked out of my accounts. and some of them will only unlock my accounts by sending me a unlock code by mail. not by email. so i could be locked out for weeks. i have to use window eyes for passwords. or type them in note pad and copy and paste them into the password fields. we should have the choice to speak or not speak the keys you press in the password fields. my requests to f/s just falls on deaf ears. they have not responded to any of my jaws questions to date. -Original Message- From: Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 9:35 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Dennis Long Subject: RE: typing passwords with jaws It's done this way for security. Think about it a sighted person couldn't see it either it would appear as stars or dots. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 8:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: typing passwords with jaws WE does the same thing, and as much as I don't like not knowing what I am typing, I like the security of knowing I am typing my password in the correct field. On 11/17/2017 5:56 PM, BK via Talk wrote: Hello, jaws says star, star, star, when I type in a password. Does anyone know how to change this so that jaws will say what is actually being typed. I like to hear the actual characters, so I know I am typing the password correctly. Thanks. Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: typing passwords with jaws
w e is the only screen reader i know of that can turn off the stars. open the w e control panel, go to verbocity,, common,miscellanious. in there is the option to turn off the stars. *** i have asked f/s several times to give us the same option and this has fallen on deaf ears. i am sick and tired of haveing to type the passwords in note pad and copy and pasteing it in the password fields. so i load w e when i have to type in passwords. -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 5:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: typing passwords with jaws WE does the same thing, and as much as I don't like not knowing what I am typing, I like the security of knowing I am typing my password in the correct field. On 11/17/2017 5:56 PM, BK via Talk wrote: Hello, jaws says star, star, star, when I type in a password. Does anyone know how to change this so that jaws will say what is actually being typed. I like to hear the actual characters, so I know I am typing the password correctly. Thanks. Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: We certificates
are you sure you have the full installation file? the downloads are usually not. i had to email vfo with my serial number and name. then they sent me a link to download it with my serial number already embedded in the file. -Original Message- From: Kevin Huber via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:35 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Kevin Huber Subject: Re: We certificates Hi Larry: I would just go ahead and reinstall WeForOffice. In the long run, you save time because you will not have to try something, have it not work and then try again. You may have to redownload it from the website. I did that not too long ago, because I wanted to make sure that the website still exists and that I have a copy of the istallation file in case the website is taken down by the folks at VFO. Kevin Huber On 11/14/17, Larry Higgins via Talkwrote: Kevin, Now that this issue has come up, I have a question I hope you have some insight into. For some reason, each time I make a major update to Windows 10, WE goes into demo mode, making it necessary to go to license management and renew online. When I try doing it offline, it gives me an invalid warning. When I do it offline, it tells me that I have a dwindling number of renewal options, and now it appears that I have run out. So, do you know how to deal with what appears to be the inevitable situation where I am actually out of validations? Who knows, maybe then it will be necessary to either uninstall, and then reinstall another copy of WE for Office. Any ideas? On 11/14/2017 3:24 PM, Kevin Huber via Talk wrote: Hi Bernie: OK. I will make another attempt at answering your question as I was not quite awake the first time. If you have a valid license for Microsoft Office version 10 or higher, you can run Window-eyes for Office and it will work perfectly. If it does not find a valid license, it will run in Demo mode. You can find all the information on www.windoweyesforoffice.com. Kevin Huber On 11/14/17, Kevin Huber wrote: Hi Bernie: bAs for your question about Microsoft Office, If you have a valid license for Microsoft Office 10 or above, all you need to do is to start Windoweyesforoffice and if it doesn't find yourMicrosoft Office license, it will just run in demo mode. You can get the information at www.windoweyesforoffice.com and you can get all the information from there On 11/12/17, Bernie Perella via Talk wrote: HI, Thanks for your note. I did, in fact, purchase the acapella voices but I think they sent the wrong authorization. I have two copies of WE, one on an older system 9.0 on a Vista system. the other is We for office now running on Windows 10 version 17 09. I am not sure but I seem to remember that when you got WE for office, you had to download an authorization so they would know you had purchased Office from MS. Am I wrong about that? Thanks, B On 11/12/2017 7:17 PM, Loy Green via Talk wrote: Not sure what authorizations you are talking about, if it is for voices you purchased for the paid version of WE 9.54, you need to request a download link from AISquared that would include any paid versions of voices you purchased. They were still giving these links a while back, but don't know how long they might continue doing so. >> >> On 11/7/2017 2:36 PM, Bernie Perella via Talk wrote: >>> HI, I have a couple of authorization files that I had gotten from Gw >>> before they went belly up. However, none of these authorization files >>> will run and they give the error that they are blocked by an >>> administrator. Is there any way to get these authorization files with >>> the new certificate? thanks. B >>> >>> ___ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bernie.perella%40outlook.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any
Re: Question About WLM
open the ribbon and find it. it says grid drop down button then it will say application menu. you press enter on it then arrow down to options then to mail then go to the tab control to send. -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 3:11 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: Question About WLM Yes, I am using WLM 2012. How do I find the applications menu? -Bob. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:42 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: net bat Subject: Re: Question About WLM are you useing wlm 2012? its in the applications pull down options, mail. then go to the control tab to send the option is in there. there is another option there about plain text but i left this alone. grin. i don't want to mess mine up. -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:24 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: Question About WLM You wrote: try turning off the option to send your message in the format it was sent in. maybe when you send a message it is useing html format instead of plain text. How do I do this? -Bob -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:18 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: net bat Subject: Re: Question About WLM sometimes, like if you have firefox and wlm loaded at the same time w e will lose focus and i have to open the wlm pull down menu and click on restore and speech will come back. but most of the time i have to unload and reload w e and speech will come back. i also have to reload w e if i am composeing a message and press escape, which turns browse mode on. once i do this i get invalid key with every key i press. when it does this i have to reload w e to get it back. *** this may not make any difference. but try turning off the option to send your message in the format it was sent in. maybe when you send a message it is useing html format instead of plain text. *** make sure the message window is maximized. sometimes this helps. -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:37 AM To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Question About WLM Windows 10 Window-Eyes 9.4.5 WLM This started a couple months ago. When I use the N command to open and write an email, I can’t read what I am writing. I can read the address and subject, but not the text. I have to write it in Word and then paste it into the out-going email. I can read incoming emails no sweat. I used to be able to read while writing an email, but not now. Any suggestions? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.” -- Mark Twain --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rsr%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window
Re: Question About WLM
are you useing wlm 2012? its in the applications pull down options, mail. then go to the control tab to send the option is in there. there is another option there about plain text but i left this alone. grin. i don't want to mess mine up. -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:24 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Re: Question About WLM You wrote: try turning off the option to send your message in the format it was sent in. maybe when you send a message it is useing html format instead of plain text. How do I do this? -Bob -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:18 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: net bat Subject: Re: Question About WLM sometimes, like if you have firefox and wlm loaded at the same time w e will lose focus and i have to open the wlm pull down menu and click on restore and speech will come back. but most of the time i have to unload and reload w e and speech will come back. i also have to reload w e if i am composeing a message and press escape, which turns browse mode on. once i do this i get invalid key with every key i press. when it does this i have to reload w e to get it back. *** this may not make any difference. but try turning off the option to send your message in the format it was sent in. maybe when you send a message it is useing html format instead of plain text. *** make sure the message window is maximized. sometimes this helps. -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:37 AM To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Question About WLM Windows 10 Window-Eyes 9.4.5 WLM This started a couple months ago. When I use the N command to open and write an email, I can’t read what I am writing. I can read the address and subject, but not the text. I have to write it in Word and then paste it into the out-going email. I can read incoming emails no sweat. I used to be able to read while writing an email, but not now. Any suggestions? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.” -- Mark Twain --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rsr%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Firefox Again
52.5 is working fine here. one thing to check though. i keep getting nagged to install the chrome browser. every time there tool box notification w e browse mode stops working until you can find and close the popup. the firefox pull down menus are another problem. if the screen is miximized they will not open. try pressing f11 to restore the screen size to get the pull down menus back. *** are you useing the 32 or 64 bit version? i use the 32 bit version. you can find out if you open the help pull down then click on about. use the tab keys to read the dialog box i have windows 64 bit but i have had some problems with the 64bit version of firefox for years. -Original Message- From: David via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 1:28 AM To: WE English Mailinglist Cc: David Subject: Firefox Again A couple of weeks ago, we had the new Firefox breaking the accessibility under WinEyes. It is well known, from version 56 and up, Firefox will no longer operate with WinEyes. Someone kindly pointed us to the business - or ESR - version of firefox, at the time being version 52. I followed their advice, and installed it, greatly enjoying to have my Firefox back on stage. This morning, Firefox notified me there was a security update to my installation. In other words, no new version, just a maintenence update. Hence, I agreed to have it perform the update. Yeah, I take it, you have already guessed what. From now on, my Firefox says version 52.5, and is no longer doable with WinEyes. It no longer goes into the programs Main Window, but says Document Window. Here you can tab around, but the arrow keys produces no real effect, and browse mode is reported to be: Not Available. Oh, how I hate that message. Smiles. OK, if anyone have seen different behavior, or have got to a bit of knowledge on how to get Firefox back, we are all ears. To me, it seems Firefox simply has crept out of all cooperation with our screen reader. Little do I hold it realistic it will ever come back. Some place, I seem to recently have read, that someone from the NVDA team had gone to Mozilla. It then is strange that we are facing this kind of lack of accessibility. It even states, under Help and About, that Firefox is meant to make the web accessible to everyone. I guess, that means except from old-timers with their WinEyes. Smiles and LOL. For some, Chrome might be an alternative. The rest of us, will be back to Internet Explorer. Chrome has its benefits, but so far I have had issues with it under certain operations. Following NVDA discussions lately, even that screen reader seem to have high issues with the newest firefox releases. It is being claimed, things will get better in version 58, but to what extent that will affect WinEyes, I am doubtful. And a recent note I read from VFO, on Jaws, seemed to indicate that even Jaws users are experiencing trouble with Mozilla lately. It was recommended not to use Firefox with Jaws 2018, if I remember correctly. Currently, I am not on that version of Jaws, so cannot confirm. Anyone here has had a chance to test newest releases of the screen reader and browser together? Goodbye to a long-lasting browser, which had numerous and beneficial advantages over any other products. Along with the somehow old-fashioned way of operating the web with Jaws - which to a degree reminds me of where WinEyes was a handful of years ago, the whole Internet browsing experience now seem to be a setback. Sure is going to take a bit of time, to get back to normal browsing speed. Sure, they made it secure? Didn't they. So secure you can't even use it. That is another kind of safety. Well, seems not even sighted users are comfortable with the newest moves from Mozilla. Probably why they tell the next release (58) will have some advancements. Does it remind you of what happened to things like Windows8, and the fact they had to go back on certain of the news, when releasing next versions? So maybe we should not wave totally goodbye to Mozilla all yet. I just wish they would have a setting somewhere, which would let the browser run the old way, even if they make some security adjustments behind the scene. Just wanted to let you know my findings. If anyone have ideas, I for one will be listening. For your info, I am under Win7 64bit, and the Firefox is reported as v52.5ESR 32bit. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author
Re: Question About WLM
sometimes, like if you have firefox and wlm loaded at the same time w e will lose focus and i have to open the wlm pull down menu and click on restore and speech will come back. but most of the time i have to unload and reload w e and speech will come back. i also have to reload w e if i am composeing a message and press escape, which turns browse mode on. once i do this i get invalid key with every key i press. when it does this i have to reload w e to get it back. *** this may not make any difference. but try turning off the option to send your message in the format it was sent in. maybe when you send a message it is useing html format instead of plain text. *** make sure the message window is maximized. sometimes this helps. -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:37 AM To: Talk Cc: Robert Ringwald Subject: Question About WLM Windows 10 Window-Eyes 9.4.5 WLM This started a couple months ago. When I use the N command to open and write an email, I can’t read what I am writing. I can read the address and subject, but not the text. I have to write it in Word and then paste it into the out-going email. I can read incoming emails no sweat. I used to be able to read while writing an email, but not now. Any suggestions? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV “If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.” -- Mark Twain --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: firefox e sr download
i originally installed the f f 64 bit version. but it reverted back to the 32 bit version. maybe you need the 32 bit version. i have a 64bit windows. but for years firefox recommended useing the 32 bit version because it was more stable. *** are you switching users? grin like with me i am running as a standard user. but some programs will not run unless they run as administrator. so i have to make the changes in the desktop icons so they will run as administrator. but with window eyes running as a standard user and the program running as administrator window eyes browse mode will not run. i have to unload w e and run it as administrator too. then browse mode will work. i have 2 window eyes icons on the desktop with shortcuts to load them. if you have firefox running as administrator browse mode would not work until you load w e as administrator too. -Original Message- From: David Crowell via Talk Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 8:54 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: David Crowell Subject: RE: firefox e sr download Ok, got the 52.4 to download and it replaced FF56 without having to delete it. It also kept all my bookmarks which made me happy. Now the only problem is some of the WE functions are still not working. I still have to use the tab to move through items because the arrow keys do nothing. I checked about browse mode and it says browse mode not available. I can not use the letter e to move to edit boxes and the same for the letter x to move to check boxes. I am sure the download was done properly because I have sighted help that checked to make sure if my computer was 32 or 64 bit and made sure I had the proper FF download chosen. Any suggestions? Dave -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dwc63=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of net bat via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 5:37 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Cc: net bat <net...@comcast.net> Subject: firefox e sr download it still says 52.4 is still availible for download. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/ i didn't look here for the portable versions. https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable the firefox web page is hard to figure out though. you have to find your version 32 or 64 bit then count how many download buttons to match your version. it speaks the versions first then the download links. afterwards. -Original Message- From: David Crowell via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 3:15 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: David Crowell Subject: RE: pop up windows Ok, I will see what I can do to find a portable version of FF Now one more question if you don't mind. Where do you go to download 52.4? Every place I go says it isn't available. Thanks -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dwc63=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of net bat via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 5:10 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Cc: net bat <net...@comcast.net> Subject: Re: pop up windows 52.4 will only be supported until about march next year. about the only way you can continue useing it is to set it to never check for updates. but after the next version is released you would not get anymore security patches. or find and use a portable version and set that to never update if it has this option. i would still export the bookmarks just in case. i don't see this option in ff 52.4 it use to be in the bookmark pulldown in orgen ize. but this option is not there. from other posters i have read you do not have to uninstall firefox. if you install the 52.4 over it it will retain your bookmarks. and color settings if you set them. -Original Message- From: David Crowell via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 2:45 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: David Crowell Subject: RE: pop up windows I am using current version of explorer since I have to wait to have help saving my bookmarks and delete firefox and get 52.4 ESR. I was looking in the menus of explorer and I am just wondering if a pop up would also be a tab? There is a command of control w to close tab. But I am afraid to hide otherwise I may lose everything. Dave -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dwc63=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of net bat via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 4:41 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Cc: net bat <net...@comcast.net> Subject: Re: pop up windows which browser? if useing firefox press control m to mute it. i don't know if i e has any hot keys. -Original Message- From: David Crowell via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 2:27 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: David Crowell Subject: pop up windows Hi, I know there is a way to close a pop window but I do not know how to it. I have a couple of web s
Re: lost all my w e apps.
thanks, got it. -Original Message- From: ratshtron via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 12:09 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: ratshtron Subject: Re: lost all my w e apps. here's the link to a file containing 308 apps: we apps july 2017.zip https://www.sendspace.com/file/f1odbi Legend has it that on Wednesday 11/1/2017 11:12 PM, net bat via Talk said: hi, i lost all my installed apps from the list. there was a way to make them show up in the list again by changeing or deleteing a w e file without haveing to reinstall the apps but i don't remember how to do this. is there anyone left on the list that knows how to do this. grin. is there a way to batch down load all the apps from the app central store at one time? help please. There's amazing intelligence in the Universe. You can tell because none of them ever called Earth. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/northstarr1950%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
firefox e sr download
it still says 52.4 is still availible for download. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/ i didn't look here for the portable versions. https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable the firefox web page is hard to figure out though. you have to find your version 32 or 64 bit then count how many download buttons to match your version. it speaks the versions first then the download links. afterwards. -Original Message- From: David Crowell via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 3:15 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: David Crowell Subject: RE: pop up windows Ok, I will see what I can do to find a portable version of FF Now one more question if you don't mind. Where do you go to download 52.4? Every place I go says it isn't available. Thanks -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dwc63=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of net bat via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 5:10 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Cc: net bat <net...@comcast.net> Subject: Re: pop up windows 52.4 will only be supported until about march next year. about the only way you can continue useing it is to set it to never check for updates. but after the next version is released you would not get anymore security patches. or find and use a portable version and set that to never update if it has this option. i would still export the bookmarks just in case. i don't see this option in ff 52.4 it use to be in the bookmark pulldown in orgen ize. but this option is not there. from other posters i have read you do not have to uninstall firefox. if you install the 52.4 over it it will retain your bookmarks. and color settings if you set them. -Original Message- From: David Crowell via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 2:45 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: David Crowell Subject: RE: pop up windows I am using current version of explorer since I have to wait to have help saving my bookmarks and delete firefox and get 52.4 ESR. I was looking in the menus of explorer and I am just wondering if a pop up would also be a tab? There is a command of control w to close tab. But I am afraid to hide otherwise I may lose everything. Dave -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dwc63=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of net bat via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 4:41 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Cc: net bat <net...@comcast.net> Subject: Re: pop up windows which browser? if useing firefox press control m to mute it. i don't know if i e has any hot keys. -Original Message- From: David Crowell via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 2:27 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: David Crowell Subject: pop up windows Hi, I know there is a way to close a pop window but I do not know how to it. I have a couple of web sites I use and I get a lot of pop up windows that are playing video adds. Of course I can't turn down the sound because then I will not be able to hear my screen reader. So any help would b appreciated for when I am home alone and do not have a sighted person to help me. Thanks, Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comca st.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dwc63%40comcas t.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comca st.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dwc63%40comcas t.net.
Re: pop up windows
52.4 will only be supported until about march next year. about the only way you can continue useing it is to set it to never check for updates. but after the next version is released you would not get anymore security patches. or find and use a portable version and set that to never update if it has this option. i would still export the bookmarks just in case. i don't see this option in ff 52.4 it use to be in the bookmark pulldown in orgen ize. but this option is not there. from other posters i have read you do not have to uninstall firefox. if you install the 52.4 over it it will retain your bookmarks. and color settings if you set them. -Original Message- From: David Crowell via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 2:45 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: David Crowell Subject: RE: pop up windows I am using current version of explorer since I have to wait to have help saving my bookmarks and delete firefox and get 52.4 ESR. I was looking in the menus of explorer and I am just wondering if a pop up would also be a tab? There is a command of control w to close tab. But I am afraid to hide otherwise I may lose everything. Dave -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dwc63=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of net bat via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 4:41 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Cc: net bat <net...@comcast.net> Subject: Re: pop up windows which browser? if useing firefox press control m to mute it. i don't know if i e has any hot keys. -Original Message- From: David Crowell via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 2:27 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: David Crowell Subject: pop up windows Hi, I know there is a way to close a pop window but I do not know how to it. I have a couple of web sites I use and I get a lot of pop up windows that are playing video adds. Of course I can't turn down the sound because then I will not be able to hear my screen reader. So any help would b appreciated for when I am home alone and do not have a sighted person to help me. Thanks, Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comca st.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dwc63%40comcas t.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: pop up windows
which browser? if useing firefox press control m to mute it. i don't know if i e has any hot keys. -Original Message- From: David Crowell via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 2:27 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: David Crowell Subject: pop up windows Hi, I know there is a way to close a pop window but I do not know how to it. I have a couple of web sites I use and I get a lot of pop up windows that are playing video adds. Of course I can't turn down the sound because then I will not be able to hear my screen reader. So any help would b appreciated for when I am home alone and do not have a sighted person to help me. Thanks, Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
lost all my w e apps.
hi, i lost all my installed apps from the list. there was a way to make them show up in the list again by changeing or deleteing a w e file without haveing to reinstall the apps but i don't remember how to do this. is there anyone left on the list that knows how to do this. grin. is there a way to batch down load all the apps from the app central store at one time? help please. There's amazing intelligence in the Universe. You can tell because none of them ever called Earth. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window eyes instalation disk
just find the downloaded file and highlight it. then press control c to copy it to the clipboard. vchange to the flash drive and use control v to paste the file. just make sure you have enough free space on the flash drive. you can do the same thing with the disk. highlight all the files then go to the flash drive and paste it to the drive. then to run the files from the disk run the setup.exe file. -Original Message- From: michael's emails via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 9:45 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: michael's emails Subject: Re: window eyes instalation disk Hi do you know how to just copy the hole file or just the win eyes files to put then on a cd or flash drive. For the future cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 5:45 AM To: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Cc: brice Mijares Subject: Re: window eyes instalation disk I was sent a link to download it. I just used it to do a clean install. On 10/28/2017 10:19 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: What? How did they send it to you? It's not a disk already? If it is, how come you would have to make another one? Pam. -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 12:50 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: brice Mijares Subject: window eyes instalation disk It appears the installation copy gw micro sent me needs to be burnt to a disk. would someone please give me detailed instruction on how to accomplish this task. I want the installation to begin once I insert the disk. Thanks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bricemijares%40att.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michaelandjeanie%40aapt.net.au. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: IE or fx
i think the insert f7 functions is a jaws defect. some times i get the same error. but when i close firefox and reload it and press the insert f7 key it works fine with the list of links. i don't have any problems with navigation with firefox 52.4 with jaws or window eyes. -Original Message- From: Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 10:01 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Dennis Long Subject: RE: IE or fx This makes no sense on windows7 with jaws 18 and jaws2018 I can use firefox just fine. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 10:46 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: brice Mijares Subject: IE or fx I am still having navigational issues with IE or FX. Window eyes has the same problem that started a few weeks ago in FX 56.x where we lost navigational keys. Uninstalled FX 56.x and installed FX 52.4 and have the same problem with window eyes. I installed Jaws 2018 When i hit insert f-function key 7 for a list of links, I hear "feature only available in virtual document. Using firefox, or IE jaws 2018. Tried hitting escape key, no change, no navigational keys work other than tab key. Whats going on? By the way, NVDA works fine with my limited knowledge of NVDA. Using all current screen reader versions, window 10 fall edition. Any advice will be welcomed. Thanks ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window eyes instalation disk
is this a zip file? a folder with the files in them etc. you might only have to copy the files to a flash drive then find and run the setup.exe file to install it. even a installation disk you can copy the files to a flash drive and do the same thing. run the setup.exe setup file. -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 9:50 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: brice Mijares Subject: window eyes instalation disk It appears the installation copy gw micro sent me needs to be burnt to a disk. would someone please give me detailed instruction on how to accomplish this task. I want the installation to begin once I insert the disk. Thanks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Steps to Change JAWS Voice
as far as getting more voices, open the jaws menu with jaws key j. go to help. in there is the option to get more voices. -Original Message- From: Terry D. Eagle via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 12:39 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Terry D. Eagle Subject: Steps to Change JAWS Voice Hi, Will someone please provide me with the keyboard steps to select and save a different JAWS voice? I also understand there are additional voices that can be downloaded from online site, but I cannot locate the website. Thanks. Terry --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window eyes version for win ten
this won't work. you need 9.2 full system installation. then a 9.5 upgrade will install as a full version. i think you could install the 9.5 by itself but it would run as a 20 minute demo. -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 8:14 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: brice Mijares Subject: window eyes version for win ten I need to uninstall window eyes. The only installation disk I have is version 9.0, will this work? Then I can install the latest version, I think it was 9.4? Thanks in advance. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: remove latest fx and installed old version
maybe you need a new video driver. some people have reported that the upgrade removed the factory video and audio drivers with genaric microsoft drivers. you may have to re install window eyes or jaws because maybe this windows handles video differently from the anniversery version did. i have not upgraded windows 10 and i use windows 7 most of the time. -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 11:43 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: brice Mijares Subject: remove latest fx and installed old version This morning I decided to uninstall FX 56.x and install Firefox Setup 52.4.0esr.exe. After going through all that, I still have the same problem as in version 56.x. Only the tab key would work. Using windows ten fall edition. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Firefox query
i tried both the 32 and 64 bit version and the work around did not work for me. so i went back to the 52 e s r version. -Original Message- From: Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 4:15 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen Subject: Re: Firefox query Are you using the 52.x ESR version of Firefox? Or are you using 32-bit Windows instead of 64-bit? Perhaps that's why ctrl-N still works for you. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 5:28 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: Firefox query What doesn't work any longer? Control/n still works for me. On 10/22/2017 4:50 AM, net bat via Talk wrote: it doesn't work anymore -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 1:16 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: Firefox query Did you try control-shift-a? Actually, if you've been reading the threads of the last few days, you're gonna have to open another window in Firefox, control-n. On 10/22/2017 2:29 AM, Jesse delMuro via Talk wrote: Hi guys. So, trying to utilize Firefox much like IE but in many cases, if not all, the webpages load but MSAA (or browse mode) isn't on automatically. Never seen _that before, so how to get it too work or turn it on using Mozilla Firefox? Any help much appreciated. Jesse On 10/21/2017 9:52 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: firefox 52 is the last version that will fully work with window eyes. there is still the 52.4 for businesses esr and it upgrades once per year. around march of next year. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/ -Original Message- From: Debby Franson via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 6:59 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Debby Franson Subject: Firefox Updated and I'm Unable to Navigate Hi! I didn't have this problem until today when Firefox updated. I can only tab and Shift-Tab through the links with MSAA turned off. The arrow keys do nothing, and, if MSAA is turned on, I only get a ding and no navigation works. I have never seen this behavior before today. I'm using Windows 7 32 bit with Window-Eyes 9.5.4.0. Debby ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jdelmuro%40gmx.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Firefox query
it doesn't work anymore -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 1:16 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: Firefox query Did you try control-shift-a? Actually, if you've been reading the threads of the last few days, you're gonna have to open another window in Firefox, control-n. On 10/22/2017 2:29 AM, Jesse delMuro via Talk wrote: Hi guys. So, trying to utilize Firefox much like IE but in many cases, if not all, the webpages load but MSAA (or browse mode) isn't on automatically. Never seen _that before, so how to get it too work or turn it on using Mozilla Firefox? Any help much appreciated. Jesse On 10/21/2017 9:52 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: firefox 52 is the last version that will fully work with window eyes. there is still the 52.4 for businesses esr and it upgrades once per year. around march of next year. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/ -Original Message- From: Debby Franson via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 6:59 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Debby Franson Subject: Firefox Updated and I'm Unable to Navigate Hi! I didn't have this problem until today when Firefox updated. I can only tab and Shift-Tab through the links with MSAA turned off. The arrow keys do nothing, and, if MSAA is turned on, I only get a ding and no navigation works. I have never seen this behavior before today. I'm using Windows 7 32 bit with Window-Eyes 9.5.4.0. Debby ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jdelmuro%40gmx.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Firefox Updated and I'm Unable to Navigate
firefox 52 is the last version that will fully work with window eyes. there is still the 52.4 for businesses esr and it upgrades once per year. around march of next year. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/ -Original Message- From: Debby Franson via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 6:59 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Debby Franson Subject: Firefox Updated and I'm Unable to Navigate Hi! I didn't have this problem until today when Firefox updated. I can only tab and Shift-Tab through the links with MSAA turned off. The arrow keys do nothing, and, if MSAA is turned on, I only get a ding and no navigation works. I have never seen this behavior before today. I'm using Windows 7 32 bit with Window-Eyes 9.5.4.0. Debby ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: firefox
you can thank mazilla for this. firefox 56 or 57 will no longer support the current a p i i think this is called add ons. unless the authors of there add ons are not converted to the new standard all of them will stop working. from what i read there are 18000 add ons but only 2000 has been converted over to the new standard. -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 9:03 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: brice Mijares Subject: firefox Firefox has been acting strange over the weekend. No scrips won't load. So I went to tools, to add ons, to the extension tab and every extension just says loading. I do have the option to disable or uninstall. the version that no longer works with win eyes, 56.x When I load a page in FX, I canhit the context key and up arrow to no script to allow scripts to run or not run with the particular web page, well, No Scripts isn't even showing under the context menu. Any ideas? Thanks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com