Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex Lynx/Orion feature request

Whoops, Trango. Sorry, got my T words mixed up. -- Original Message -- From: "Jeremy Grip" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 9/6/2016 9:18:51 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex Lynx/Orion feature request Telrad or Trango support? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 6, 2016, at

Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

Contact Jay from Midamerica Towers http://www.midamericatowers.com . He has a couple of towers in Alabama and lives in Georgia now. Jay is a true Tower God and could tell you whats up. Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

UBNT forum is like survey monkey. We are the Bilderbergers... From: George Skorup Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 9:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Ben, Matt and Chuck are here, and I'm sure others. They are not deaf and blind. One thing the AF silicon has going for it is

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

A handful of people is still just that. *shrug* It's your call on how much impact your voice has. On Sep 6, 2016 10:07 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > Ben, Matt and Chuck are here, and I'm sure others. They are not deaf and > blind. > > One thing the AF silicon has going for it

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

Ben, Matt and Chuck are here, and I'm sure others. They are not deaf and blind. One thing the AF silicon has going for it is true FDD unlike Mimosa. OK, I'll shut up until they reveal it for reelz and see what they came up with. On 9/6/2016 8:58 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: One thing this

Re: [AFMUG] UPS Recommendation

Where are you getting the Alpha units? I'm thinking a FXM 350 should do the job but I'm not finding a good supplier. On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 8:34 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > I would still use Alpha. > > > > But I have simple APC rack mount units where there is little

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

What is it $1000/radio end? I'm not going to complain! I'm sure Mimosa pricing will adjust also... Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Sep 6, 2016, at 10:18 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > Sure, it'll be enough for a lot of links, but it won't get you a full

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

1024QAM? Depends on the link. Need more margin? Add more dish. On Sep 6, 2016 9:18 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > Sure, it'll be enough for a lot of links, but it won't get you a full > gig... > > On Sep 6, 2016 9:12 PM, "Jon Langeler" wrote: > >>

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

Sure, it'll be enough for a lot of links, but it won't get you a full gig... On Sep 6, 2016 9:12 PM, "Jon Langeler" wrote: > If it's dual polarity you won't need 80MHz wide. 40mhz x 2 should be > plenty for -most- links. > > Jon Langeler > Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

If it's dual polarity you won't need 80MHz wide. 40mhz x 2 should be plenty for -most- links. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Sep 6, 2016, at 9:20 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Look at the page with the spectral analysis. It says 56 MHz produces a 65 - > 79 MHz

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

One thing this group needs to understand is that if you don't interact directly with the UBNT on their forum (and draw up votes via popular opinion), they're likely to not give a fuck. They have a very large traffic volume on there, larger than any other manufacturer of WISP type equipment.

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

They have a "thing". I'm sure they'll talk about it at or around October. On Sep 6, 2016 8:47 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > Hopefully they listened and will put a regular slip-fit waveguide > interface on the final version. Something tells me they're going to run > with the

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

heh heh - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mathew Howard" To: "af" Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 8:47:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

Oh... I see. I was hoping all our complaining had resulted in changes... oh well. On Sep 6, 2016 8:20 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > Look at the page with the spectral analysis. It says 56 MHz produces a 65 > - 79 MHz wide carrier. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

Hopefully they listened and will put a regular slip-fit waveguide interface on the final version. Something tells me they're going to run with the type N idea though. And I won't buy it. On 9/6/2016 8:35 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Oh, is this “that” radio... I didn’t see any N connectors in the

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

Oh, is this “that” radio... I didn’t see any N connectors in the FCC test report photo. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 7:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 Some people start forgetting things as they get older. /s On Sep 6, 2016 8:27 PM, "Mike Hammett"

Re: [AFMUG] OT Six Seater Truck

Thanks everyone, good information. I start shopping this month. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 8:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Six Seater Truck My 2013 Ford F-150 super crew v6 ecoboost will fit 6 comfortably.

Re: [AFMUG] UPS Recommendation

I would still use Alpha. But I have simple APC rack mount units where there is little temperature variance for the unit and batteries. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 7:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] UPS Recommendation

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex Lynx/Orion feature request

The modem and data ports are on an internal ethernet switch. There's one SVI, aka IBM. I'm sure they could add more SVIs, but it would likely be on a separate VLAN for each interface. Just a wild guess on my part though. You also have the dedicated OMU management port which does have its own

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

Some people start forgetting things as they get older. /s On Sep 6, 2016 8:27 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > I thought we already had this discussion a couple times. ;-) > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions >

[AFMUG] UPS Recommendation

Any recommendations for a UPS to use at a site with a generator backup? I was thinking about an Alpha unit, but the site is temperature-controlled, so that may be overkill.

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

I thought we already had this discussion a couple times. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

Actually, I did find three links worth where I can use B11s to their fullest. People stopped coming out with new 56 MHz wide products a couple years ago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message -

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

N connectors on top along with the GPS port On Sep 6, 2016 8:24 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > OK, I see the photos in the first test report. It says there are 4 > antenna ports. I presume xpic.It does list a generic Radio Waves > parabolic, but nothing specific for the

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

How many places do you have in your market where you an take up 160MHz of 11GHz spectrum? Honest question. I do agree though, they should go for it if enough people who can actually use it request it. On Sep 6, 2016 8:20 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > I berated them about it

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

OK, I see the photos in the first test report. It says there are 4 antenna ports. I presume xpic.It does list a generic Radio Waves parabolic, but nothing specific for the interface. I am guessing that you can pull the bottom off the case like a canopy and find 4 sma ports in there. 2

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

On 9/6/16 18:20, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: 80 is in a future firmware release hahahahahhahahahahahahhaha So it'll be soon, right?

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

Maybe it's like how a lot of Remec ODUs will let you set them to 80MHz, but they run at 56MHz only. Seems kinda silly not to support 80MHz. On 9/6/2016 8:19 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: It is 56 MHz. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

I berated them about it months ago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Eric Kuhnke" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 7:58:44 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

80 is in a future firmware release hahahahahhahahahahahahhaha lolz On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > It is 56 MHz. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

Look at the page with the spectral analysis. It says 56 MHz produces a 65 - 79 MHz wide carrier. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mathew Howard" To: "af"

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex Lynx/Orion feature request

Telrad or Trango support? Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 6, 2016, at 9:15 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > I just realized I suck at commas. My apologies to grammar nazis. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Adam Moffett" > To: "Animal Farm"

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

It is 56 MHz. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Eric Kuhnke" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 7:58:44 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11 I

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Apex Lynx/Orion feature request

I just realized I suck at commas. My apologies to grammar nazis. -- Original Message -- From: "Adam Moffett" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: 9/6/2016 9:14:08 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Trango Apex Lynx/Orion feature request I submitted the feature request below

[AFMUG] Trango Apex Lynx/Orion feature request

I submitted the feature request below to Telrad's online ticketing system earlier today, and they replied that they'll pass the request to engineering. If you use either the Apex Lynx or Apex Orion and if you agree with what I'm saying below then please add your voice to mine and ask for this

Re: [AFMUG] outdoor weatherproof enclosure

we just ordered some of these for an upper cross connect, theyre only 70 bucks from alternate vendors and come in all kinds of sizes. configurations http://www.winncom.com/en/products/H141206HF-6P On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 7:59 PM, George Skorup wrote: > enclosurehub.com > >

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

56mhz is what they originally said, but don't the emission designators listed here indicate it'll do 80mhz? On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > I doubt in the year 2016 ubnt would design/build/ship a product that only > does 56 MHz ETSI size channels for

Re: [AFMUG] outdoor weatherproof enclosure

enclosurehub.com We've been using the 20x16x10 fiberglass enclosures for small-ish sites. Well, I did find a way to cram 20lbs of shit in that 10lb box for a grain elevator rebuild a couple months ago. 4x PTP links. 4x FSK sectors. 4x 450 sectors. That's the one where I double rail mounted a

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

I doubt in the year 2016 ubnt would design/build/ship a product that only does 56 MHz ETSI size channels for an FCC/IC market... 60 and 80 are allowed now. Coordination results permitting, of course. https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-12-122A1_Rcd.pdf On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

They're only 56 MHz wide. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Eric Kuhnke" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 7:43:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

There are two photos of the unit but they do not show the coax connectors or waveguide port. On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > No photos. Hopefully they will be coming. > > *From:* Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

No photos. Hopefully they will be coming. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 6:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] AF11 https://fccid.io/SWX-AF11FX

Re: [AFMUG] AF11

1024QAM, dual polarity, 80 MHz wide channels? I am hopeful it won't suck. On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > https://fccid.io/SWX-AF11FX >

[AFMUG] AF11

https://fccid.io/SWX-AF11FX

Re: [AFMUG] outdoor weatherproof enclosure

That Jirous seems to be about 12x12. This one is going to be double the square area: http://www.l-com.com/nema-enclosures-18x16x8-nema-rated-120-vac-enclosures I've used a bunch of those, but I don't think I'll get anymore because they never seem to be quite big enough. Next time it's

Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

There is, from a technical perspective, it's just costly... Concrete x-raying services such as you would employ before core-drilling a hole through a slab in a major office building. On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I always worry about the guy anchors.

Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

Probably he plucked like a guitar string and figured if it didn't break it was ok. I've seen a HAM tower guyed with poly rope. I told him he had to climb it himself if he wanted the antenna on it. He did it, the whole structure swayed while he was on it. No thanks. -- Original Message

Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

Yup. We have dealt with Allcomm before. That would be my suggestion. - Original Message - From: Daniel White To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training Safety is something never to screw with. I’d

Re: [AFMUG] I hate lightning...

I am scared to ask, but... were you using protection? (Hopefully not mine...) From: Sam Lambie Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 5:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] I hate lightning... Got rousted out of bed last night at 1:30. Went out to the site to discover 4 - 450 AP's were hit and

Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

I always worry about the guy anchors. No good way to inspect or test them. From: Daniel White Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 5:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training Safety is something never to screw with. I’d find a local tower company to come out

[AFMUG] I hate lightning...

Got rousted out of bed last night at 1:30. Went out to the site to discover 4 - 450 AP's were hit and DOA, 1 backhaul and a Cisco Switch all dead. Got it limping along and went to bed at 4 am. Drove 220 miles today to pick up some spare 450i ap's from another WISP in Colorado so I can replace them

Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

Safety is something never to screw with. I’d find a local tower company to come out and do a check. That should come with a report indicating what the spec range is and what the tower is currently at. My GoogleFo found this: http://www.allcomm.com/towers/maintenance_inspection.htm

Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

we are trying to have that done every three on the few towers we are still on On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 5:41 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > Might be better to have a tower company come and look at our towers once a > year? > > > - Original Message - > *From:*

Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

Might be better to have a tower company come and look at our towers once a year? - Original Message - From: That One Guy /sarcasm To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training my guy might be able to do that,

Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

my guy might be able to do that, he is an instructor for the railroad, he does a yearly mini tower climbing/safety for us. Unless you send your guys to become certified inspectors, nobody will give you anything that is formal, and youll have to sign a release of liability, but better to know the

Re: [AFMUG] Outsourced IT

A good ticketing system that tracks billable time and gives you history on the customer, a good remote access method, we use turbomeeting because its perpetual and we own the hardware, and onenote is excellent for documentation On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

Isn’t the old expression something like buy on the rumor, sell on the news? From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 4:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock http://bgr.com/2016/09/06/apple-event-iphone-7-iphone-7-plus-apple-watch-macbook-pro/ I would think it

Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

http://bgr.com/2016/09/06/apple-event-iphone-7-iphone-7-plus-apple-watch-macbook-pro/ I would think it will open high and move up a bit. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 3:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock What, because their batteries don’t explode?

Re: [AFMUG] OT Stock

What, because their batteries don’t explode? From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 4:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT Stock Anyone buy Apple today?

[AFMUG] OT Stock

Anyone buy Apple today?

[AFMUG] Outsourced IT

Do any of you do outsourced IT department services? What sort of applications do you feel essential to that work? Looking for whatever makes my life the easiest. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] Tower maintenance training

You gotta wonder how the ham checked it. I would want to know the type of tensiometer. If he came back with "what is a tensiometer" then I would be concerned about climbing it too. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 3:13 PM To: Principal WISPA

Re: [AFMUG] call back when you fix your g and 9 keys

I assume it's a laptop. Maybe a USB keyboard? Ken Hohhof wrote: Customer calls, I tell him it looks like someone may have pressed the reset button on his Netgear router, and would he open his web browser and type routerlogin.net for the web address. He tries but says the "g" key isn't working

Re: [AFMUG] call back when you fix your g and 9 keys

haha, you could have given yourself a real headache by walking him through using the onscreen keyboard On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Customer calls, I tell him it looks like someone may have pressed the > reset button on his Netgear router, and would he

Re: [AFMUG] DNS separation

We do it exactly as George said. Jesse DuPont Network Architect email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net Celerity

[AFMUG] call back when you fix your g and 9 keys

Customer calls, I tell him it looks like someone may have pressed the reset button on his Netgear router, and would he open his web browser and type routerlogin.net for the web address. He tries but says the "g" key isn't working on his computer. OK, try 192.168.1.1. Nope, the "9" key isn't

Re: [AFMUG] DNS separation

I have three machines on the network. Master at the NOC and two slaves at towers. They handle our domains, PTRs, etc. As well as DNS for customers. Recursion is locked down to our address blocks only. I also have an anycast address shared between all three. The infrastructure devices use that

Re: [AFMUG] DNS separation

I wouldn't be overly concerned about your recursive boxes being authoritative for your internal (only) zones. You already have mechanisms in place to prevent external clients from using them for recursive services. On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:20 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <

[AFMUG] DNS separation

Im putting our recursive sservers up for our network to use, theyre access limited by ACL and external router firewall policies to our networks only There will be four total servers NS1 and NS2 are our current authoritative only servers, they are public facingfor our domains and our ARIN

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Possibly Compromised

Bruh just use Powercode and be done with it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Dave wrote: > I am still waiting on a solution to do port 443 redirection without > breaking it :) >

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Possibly Compromised

I am still waiting on a solution to do port 443 redirection without breaking it :) On 09/06/2016 12:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: Butch evans script is relatively inexpensive On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Rob Genovesi >

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.6.2 - (was 2.5.5)

Packet drop could cause a bad dns response ? On 07/01/2016 10:16 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: From what Dan posted it said the bug happens when the DNS server doesn't respond. Are you finding something different? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Possibly Compromised

100% of the time you enable DNS resolving you want to firewall the WAN interface for this very reason. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Got

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Possibly Compromised

Could be DDOS attack on dns this happen to me on my mikrotik. Tim -Original Message- From: "Jason McKemie" To: af@afmug.com Date: 09/06/16 02:03 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Possibly Compromised I'd think that I would see some internal network

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Possibly Compromised

Got it. I think part of the issue here is that since I was using it at home I left the Mikrotik default config installed - normally I wipe this and start from scratch. On Tuesday, September 6, 2016, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Unfortunately, “remote” doesn’t mean what you probably

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Possibly Compromised

Butch evans script is relatively inexpensive On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Rob Genovesi wrote: > If it's not a DNS server for clients just go to IP -> DNS and uncheck > "Allow Remote Requests" ... and add firewall rules. > > -Rob > > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 10:17

[AFMUG] outdoor weatherproof enclosure

I have been using the Jirous Gentlebox JE-300, which has been really nice, but need something a little larger, can anyone recommend something that’s reasonably priced and has decent availability that’s something like double the size?

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Possibly Compromised

Unfortunately, “remote” doesn’t mean what you probably think. More like remote and local, anything except the Mikrotik itself. So if any clients are using this as their resolver (DNS proxy), it needs to be enabled, with firewall rules. If you aren’t using the Mikrotik as a DNS proxy, you can

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Possibly Compromised

Yes, unfortunately. On 09/06/2016 10:14 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: Well, disabling remote requests dropped it off steeply. I'll have to look into that. Is that enabled by default? On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Bruce Robertson > wrote: Good

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Possibly Compromised

If it's not a DNS server for clients just go to IP -> DNS and uncheck "Allow Remote Requests" ... and add firewall rules. -Rob On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Yeah, admittedly I haven't done much other than mess around with some >

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Possibly Compromised

Instill some basic network security. I block input to potentially harmful ports, but a better way is to only allow input on ports you want. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jason

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Possibly Compromised

Does the Mikrotik DNS cache listen on both TCP and UDP port 53? In past I always dropped both in input chain on the pppoe interface but I am not sure it actually listens on the TCP port? > Assuming you have DNS set to Allow Remote Requests (which must be on for > local customers to use the

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Possibly Compromised

If you leave it long enough, Comcast will shut off your account. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jason McKemie" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday,