Some crypto videos related to computing:
Check out Golem:
https://youtu.be/FZb_w5JXvJ8
SONM:
https://youtu.be/6P5eweyh1B0
Gridcoin is another... there are quite a few now.
Hehe isn't this exciting ?
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Here are a more blockchain distributed computing videos. Applicable? Maybe.
Entertaining? Yes.
The networks are probably laggy since some just use unused machine resources
like BOINC but allow buying and selling via coins or tokens. But not every AGI
component needs hyper low-latency computing
Oohh now this is what I'm talkin 'bout, get a little AGI PSI action goin' on in
that blockchain consciousness proposal:
"Quantum Blockchain using entanglement in time"
https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.05979
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Oh OK everybody you can throw away your keyboards, Mentifex created the first
AGI...
Prob. is only he can read the code! LOL
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Ho hum, wish I had more time to think about this time stuff...
It might be related to some mechanism in human memory, in addition to possibly
ghost thought-imaging across spatially entangled photons to time entanglement.
https://www.nature.com/news/entangled-photons-make-a-picture-from-a-paradox-
Watched this Kafkaesque movie last eve called "Enemy" and this message thread
for some bizarre reason reminds me of the beginning script:
"It's all about control.
Every dictatorship has
one obsession,
and that's it.
So, in ancient Rome,
they gave the people bread
and circuses.
They kept the popul
I would have used to describe the layers of this onion in terms of topological
computational efficiency strata, reconfiguration, auto-configuration,.. etc.
But lately my consciousness/intelligence ratio meter on AGI has gone way up so
I would look at them in terms of conscious awareness. Electro
Basically, if you look at all of life (Earth only for this example) over the
past 4.5 billion years, including all the consciousness and all that “presumed”
entanglement and say that's the first general intelligence (GI) the algebraic
structural dynamics on the computational edge... is computing
Matt:
> AGI is the very hard engineering problem of making machines do all the things
>that people can do.
Artificial people might be a path to AGI but not really AGI...
And I'm not the one originally saying consciousness is the magic ingredient.
Nature is :)
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Zoom out. Think multi-agent not single agent. Multi-agent internally and
externally. Evaluate this proposition not from first-person narrative and it
begins to make sense.
Why is there no single general compression algorithm? Same reason as general
intelligence, thus, multi-agent, thus i
Nanograte,
> In particular, the notion of a universal communication protocol. To me it
> seems to have a definite ring of truth to it.
It does doesn't it?!
For years I've worked with signaling and protocols lending some time to
imagining a universal protocol. And for years I've thought about a
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Mahoney via AGI
>...
Yes, I'm familiar with these algorithmic information theory *specifics*. Very
applicable when implemented in isolated systems...
> No, it (and Legg's generalizations) implies that a lot of software and
> hardware
> is required and
On Thursday, September 13, 2018, at 3:10 PM, Jim Bromer wrote:
> I don't even think that stuff is relevant.
Jim,
It's relevant if consciousness is the secret sauce. and if it applies to the
complexity problem.
Would a non-conscious entity have a reason to develop AGI?
John
Reread the paper, it makes more sense the more times you read it:
"The main idea is to regard “thinking” as a dynamical system operating on
mental states:"
Then think about how the system would learn to drive a car, for example... then
learn to fly an airplane.
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"Shortcut", yes there is no shortcut... or is there?
"Consciousness is what thinking feels like." EXACTLY! Define "feel" in the
mathematical sense.
We coat concepts with words (symbols). Where do they come from?
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"AGI is 100 percent consciousness"
Please throw the AI guys a bone, line 10%? Even though it's mostly grunt.
Sorry I don't really feel that way I know there is something there there is!
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"Consciousness has to do with observing temporal patterns."
The term pattern is ... obscure I'm afraid I try to avoid it but...
It's more than observe, I would say occupy representation. A pattern is a
representation. Only terminology?
Two patterns from different domains - the key is how do th
How about: Write an expression for or compute the consciousness of a clock.
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Possible correction here, this is modeling consciousness assuming everything is
conscious, "panpsychism" is it?
I mentioned pondering pure randomness. This might not be right it might be when
pondering pure nothingness. Would pure nothingness have a consciousness of
everything or pure randomnes
On Saturday, August 24, 2019, at 11:15 AM, keghnfeem wrote:
> The human mind builds many temporal patterns and pick the best one. Since wet
> neurons are so
> slow. Also the human brain build many temporal patterns that will occur or
> could occur if predicted
> patterns fails. Also, the brain
On Friday, August 23, 2019, at 9:57 PM, keghnfeem wrote:
> Consciousness is Memory:
> https://vimeo.com/98785998
Uhm, I was thinking that intelligence is memory. Consciousness is now.
Intelligence is what comes before and after now.
Could be wrong though I guess... life is a recording that can
Intelligence, Memory, Consciousness for AGI is a very nice 3 tuple:
AGI = {I,C,M}
Any missing elements?
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On Monday, August 26, 2019, at 7:44 AM, immortal.discoveries wrote:
> Encoding information, remembering information, decoding information, paying
> attention to context, prediction forecast, loop back to step 1, is the main
> gist of it. This has generation, feedback, and adapting temporal patter
On Monday, August 26, 2019, at 8:04 AM, Stefan Reich wrote:
> Is all this discussion leading anywhere?
Yes, it's increasing C.
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I was expressing panpsychist mathematical modeling with consciousness as
Universal Communication Protocol and Occupying Representation in case you
didn't notice. This has much overlap on other AI fields...
kegineem we may have some similar ideas I see you have something called a
Visual Alphabet
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019, at 7:51 AM, immortal.discoveries wrote:
> I believe consciousness doesn't exist for many, many, reasons, ex. physics,
> our brain being a meta ball from the womb, learned cues, etc. I am purely a
> robot from evolution, with no life. The moment you hear that you fear
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019, at 9:29 AM, Stefan Reich wrote:
> Please point me to the code being written as a result of this talk then :-)
Stefan,
There are other loosely "related" component pieces for research that are
present in various projects that exist that have some publicly shareable cod
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote:
> It says "ouch" and it modifies its behavior to avoid negative stimuli. Too
> much torture will kill it.
This corny gimmick chatbot is so Mentifexian. You should convert it to
JavaScript and get it integrated over there with a button
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019, at 10:01 AM, keghnfeem wrote:
> The visual alphabet 2.0:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6MB-ZgPcNg
>
I watched most of this excellent presentation but was waiting for resultant
symbol mechanics and dynamics. The structure of the structure extracted and how
th
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019, at 11:26 PM, immortal.discoveries wrote:
> Dropping the 'consciousness' word, that video I linked above is actually hit
> on. Let me explain. In the middle of the video, he mentioned wave
> synchronization - the brain has signals propagating around - please see this
On Monday, August 26, 2019, at 5:25 PM, WriterOfMinds wrote:
> "What it feels like to think" or "the sum of all a being's qualia" can be
> called phenomenal consciousness. I don't think this type of consciousness is
> either necessary or sufficient for AGI. If you have an explicit goal of
> crea
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019, at 8:44 AM, WriterOfMinds wrote:
> That is not what qualia are. Qualia are incommunicable and private.
As Matt would say:
printf("Ouch!\n");
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On Wednesday, August 28, 2019, at 9:30 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies
wrote:
> Any generalized system relying on the random, subjective input value of
> qualia would give rise to the systems constraint of ambiguity. Therefore, as
> a policy, all subjectively-derived data would introduce a
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019, at 3:35 PM, Secretary of Trades wrote:
> https://philpapers.org/archive/CHATMO-32.pdf#page=50
Blah blah blah.
>From AGI perspective we are interested in the multi-agent computational
>advantages in distributed systems that consciousness (or by other names)
>facili
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019, at 4:07 PM, WriterOfMinds wrote:
> Are you sure you wouldn't be better served by calling your ideas some other
> names than "consciousness" and "qualia," then? We're all getting "hung-up
> on" the concepts that those terms actually refer to.
Good question.
That'
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019, at 5:09 PM, WriterOfMinds wrote:
> People can only communicate their conscious experiences by analogy. When you
> say "I'm in pain," you're not actually describing your experience; you're
> encouraging me to remember how I felt the last time *I* was in pain, and to
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019, at 6:49 PM, WriterOfMinds wrote:
> Great, seems like we've reached agreement on something.
> When we communicate with words like "red," we're really communicating about
> the frequency of light. I would argue that we are not communicating our
> qualia to each other.
On Thursday, August 29, 2019, at 1:49 AM, WriterOfMinds wrote:
> Like I said when I first posted on this thread, phenomenal consciousness is
> neither necessary nor sufficient for an intelligent system.
This is the premise that you are misguided by. Who is building the intelligent
systems? Grunt
On Thursday, August 29, 2019, at 6:32 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies
wrote:
> Qualia are communicable.
> As such, I propose a new research methodology, which pertains to one-off
> valid and reliable experimentation when dealing with the "unseen". The
> "public" and repeat" tests for vettin
Clarified:
AGI={I,C,M,PSI}={I,UCP+OR,M,BB}; BB=Black Box
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On Thursday, August 29, 2019, at 12:49 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote:
> Phenomenal consciousness is what thinking feels like. This feeling evolved
> because it motivates you to not die and let those feelings stop. It doesn't
> require any new physics. It can be explained entirely by neural computation.
On Friday, August 30, 2019, at 2:31 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies wrote:
> But, I strongly disagree with the following statement, for it contains an
> inherent contradiction.
>
> "It is allowed to break physics or invent new ones in a virtual world."
>
> No, they should not be allowed
Our minds are simulating most everything. We can imagine a model where a
spaceship goes from Earth to Pluto in 1 second virtually breaking the speed of
light (we know it isn't really). My thoughts were that consciousness is the one
piece of the mind that isn't a model or a simulation. And for a
Great video. Reminds me of this:
https://external-preview.redd.it/aEB0JKhofXy2Feiu2QrzZRRsLgCBwS8cRbVZwUZHjkE.gif?width=640&format=mp4&s=5f296022e7875f78f78d6ea9fa1f15e15ad5f8e2
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Qualia flow, the dots are qualia :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw9vjEB1S2Y
Transform into text:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myFR8FTXOM4
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Are you guys testing chatbots or... gibberish generators? This isn't a Discord
or Telegram channel.
Maybe I'm not comprehending the topic of discussion...
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Arthur,
Every time you start posting about your "AI Mind" app I briefly go and look at
the JS source, "View page source" from the web browser, and here are a few
thoughts (after working with thousands of source codes over the years, and
instead of me just saying "If there were an example of how
>Alan
>
>We really really don't have any more time to waste on...
>
Agreed. Compadres, we should not do FUD, gaslighting, trolling, etc..
>
>MP
> BUT AT LEAST HE HAS SOMETHING.
As Google knows, searching is SOMETHING, but better to understand what one is
searching for though often what we are
Kimera - I just looked at this a little and translating - they have a working
"AGI" that can do AI currently and on the roadmap is real AGI but need more
funding for marketing, partnerships and development.
Apparently about 80% non-engineers on their "team/advisers".
The ICO whitepaper page 18
The patent affirms what I was saying - the app/server sees others in the same
movie theater have dimmed their screen so it dims it for that user. Not AGI...
just a db query add-on to a location service..
"As another example, a Service node may reference
an application that controls user device s
Hahah I love Dianetics man! I talked to them literally like 30 years ago
U-District Seattle and San Fran, was into it for a year maybe and that was it!
Now I'm 53 and once in a while I visit my parents in their 80's and they say -
"John uhm ya got a new Scientology Magazine there on the table ma
Has anyone though about this? You could use lossless blockchain as immutable
Episodic memory for indexing, with mutable branches off of it but...
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Distributed decentralized autonomous AGI, temporal memory, lossy = forgetting
even just dropping blocks, some memory on-chain some off. On-chain slower more
secure, off-chain more local, sensory, less-processed. Blockchain meaning
blockchain-like, hashgraph-like, or whatever.
There would be som
Stefan,
Wrong! It's a paradigmatic shift. It adds something missing from AI/AGI
yearned for all these years - its own economy.
And on the non-economic side, three main things - distributed decentralized
autonomous as well as data security.
It is revolutionary in terms of taking the power away
Looking into this further, probably what is needed is an open source hashgraph
since it would require heavy DAG modification. Hedera's hasgraph is proprietary
:(
Hedera claims hundreds of thousands of TPS...
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OK forget the word "blockchain" I see it upsets people who didn't buy in early
:)
Use hashgraph or .. tangle possibly (doesn't look good) or some new DLT graph
which gets invented here :)
I'm going to re-read Matt's CMR paper again, to see if it may work for
something like this.
I don't like
OK CMR - unless your graph is merely a tree or a giant DAG you need to ack the
ack's or have session state or the message flow will be mainly unidirectional
when server nodes are busy/congested.
And/or re-transmits or your'e constantly going to be having lost messages and
cleaning up orphan edg
Why would anyone want to do that?
Ans: For model checking on a distributed imagination.
Just figured I’d throw that out there 😊
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They got the data! And they got a "distributed imagination".
So they could emerge some models and check them I suppose.
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If the stream of consciousness, sampled, securely stored in blocks,
distributed, in a decentralized autonomous multi-agent system is inaccurate.
aka hacked, the imagined models could be distorted. The distributed
decentralized AGI's imagination could be intentionally "influenced" in
deleterious
Walking this further:
Nuzz: Facebook is centralized. They own your data. You are the product. They
get hacked.
Mahoney: This is about consensus not competition.
So... fullnodes, masternodes, multi-componented. One component set for
rendering models one for checking. Consensus is n confirmati
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