On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Enrique wrote:
... Even more if the "reason" argued is to "comply with Windows UI
rules", is absolutely nonsense ...
In general, I'd personally like to have OOo avoid repeating the terrible
UI mistakes perpetrated (and perpetuated) by MS. Many, many OOo users are
new to com
I'm looking for a way to cull duplicate rows from a pair of columns in
Calc, leaving just a set of unique rows. e.g.
AA BB
AA AA
BB BB
AA BB
AA AA
becomes
AA BB
AA AA
BB BB
Any suggestions on
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Steve Kopischke wrote:
[...]
1. Sort the rows. This may or may not be an option for you with the way your
data is arranged. You might have to concatenate the data from multiple cells
to get this to work.
2. Use a filter. Data>Filter from the menu will get you to options for th
Thanks Steve and Eike,
From the prompting from the two of you, I have the method I wanted:
Data->Filter->Standard Filter (= not empty )
-> More -> No Duplication, Copy results to...
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Where can I find the OOo 2 beta for OS X? The OS X downloads page seems
to link only to OOo 1.1.2:
http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/ooo-osx_downloads.html#download
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Scribus does seem interesting, but I am curious as to how people ended up
with MS-Publisher in the first place. The main closed source tools would
be PageMaker, Quark, FrameMaker, or InDesign.
What does scribus do better or worse that other open source tools like
LaTeX or OOo Draw? I have bee
Ok, from the responses, it sounds like MS-Publisher is around because it
was bundled for a while with other MS products.
Perhaps an article or tutorial or HOWTO on the topic of using OOo for
flyers or newsletters is in order.
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Martin,
I think the opiner has confused OOo with MS-Office 2003 or with MSIE.
OOo has no tracking, especially not web.
However, MS-Office 2003 (along with MS-Windows XP) has DRM functions
which, as a side effect if activated, track who does tries to create,
edit, copy, delete, rename, save, pri
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
Well is not the first time I heard about this, this is usually when
ZoneAlarm or other desktop firewall warns you that OOo is looking for an
open port. This is done whe OOo crashes and tries to send the crash
reports to --- Sun.
Some people has bee
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Alan Madden wrote:
[...]
Regardless of whether a program is trustworthy or not, I would not
trust a company/firewall where you could 'buy' a bypass for your
application.
Nor do I, but that is my understanding of how these things work.
Ultimately though, the implication of spywa
derstanding OOo DOES look to communicate with Sun Servers
and the firewalls do warn the user about it.
The firewall is doing it's job.
--
Alexandro Colorado
Co-Leader of OpenOffice.org Spanish
http://es.openoffice.org/
Mensaje citado por "Lars D. Noodén" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
This is NOT a missunderstanding OOo DOES look to communicate with Sun
Servers and the firewalls do warn the user about it.
The misunderstanding is on the side of the user about the nature of the
connection.
The firewall is doing it's job.
It depends
What is the best way to enlighten the large population of end users that
there are applications that track and report on all their activties and
that OOo is not one of them?
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
How in the world is that the responsability of the Firewall to know?
The ap
While we have the theme of privacy concerns going, does OOo embed a
tracking number (aka GUID or global unique identifier) into documents like
MS-Office97 and later do?
If yes, why and are there plans to stop?
If no, are there plans to keep it that way?
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
I couldn't find the IRC details at the URL below. Is there a transcript
available?
-Lars
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On Sat, 16 Apr 2005, Daniel Carrera wrote:
Gr
Try approaching the problem from the topic of records retention and
interchange. MSO file formats change a little each version and the
different versions are not quite compatible with each other. That's
presumably to drive new sales. OOo, in contrast, does a good job in
importing MSO formats
US Federal grant applications are probably going to be moving to
electronic submissions eventually. I think that there is a strong case to
be made for supporting an open, platform independent, royalty-free format
like OpenDocument in the application process.
The test site is visible here:
If you have enough machines to use one as a prototype station, then you
may consider trying a slimmed down install of Debian + KDE(in kiosk mode)
or Fluxbox (plus icons). From experience, it's much easier to manage .
and maintain than Win98, which I used to have on a home machine.
You'll still
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Arkady V.Belousov wrote:
[snip]
Mistake. Word 6.0 (for Windows 3.x) and Word 95 (for Win32) are
completely interchangable. I _know_ this. This is what forces me to think,
that thay formats are identical.
My experiences have been that those two formats are not the same. Plea
That is really great news. Gary, can you post a URL for a press release
after the voting is complete on Saturday or Sunday?
-Lars
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It's a bit misleading to try to call MS' data formats standards, they tend
to be specific to individual versions.
It would be nice if the EU were to publicize an endorsement of
OpenDocument.
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
[...]
I wonder if mycrosoft respond to all this EU validating OASIS as the standard
has to do with the recent exposure of METRO
(http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/print/metro_FAQ.mspx)
I would expect so, MS seems to not can't stand for any press cov
During testing and roll out, don't do it all at once. That's a bad habit
introduced by MS to create crises. Find one or two early adopters who are
interested and have them run a short pilot. Then phase it in one group at
a time. As things go well, the pace can be accelerated. Once you're su
I think more companies will be taking that approach, especially since BSA
and probably FAST give the appearance to be working on behalf of MS and
not any other closed source vendors:
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1998/01/burstein.html
Using OOo allows companies to keep the workstation
Not rocky enough, there's still little public discussion and what
discussion there is focuses on developers, usually only F/OSS developers
at that. Patents govern *use* and as such affect everyone who uses a
computer, though businesses and larger institutions will feel the brunt of
the cost.
Considering a corporate environment, the support staff, not the newbie,
would take care of connecting to the LAN/Internet as well as ensuring that
automount is set up. Permissions are simpler (rwx for user or group) than
most file sharing systems like AFS or Novell's Netware, but require a bit
I agree that ethics are important.
MS apologists often try to spin the discussion of ethics into a general
closed source vs open source debate, which is wrong. There are some very
good closed source companies out there, Opera AS being one, which provide
an excellent product which works well w
Cleaning out my TODO list, I dug up an article with some coverage of
OpenDocument and OOo:
"The case for open source software."
http://www.bangkokpost.com/300305_Database/30Mar2005_data51.php
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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John,
There seem to me to be few articles that actually compare the two, so if
you do some analysis yourself, you will quickly be a (world) leader in
that area. If you do write something, I'd look forward to reading it.
Check with several libraries in your area (e.g. public and university) a
Lyle,
Here was an interesting quote regarding TCO. That even if the TCO weren't
lower (though pretty much all non-MS funded studies seem to indicate it is
lower) freedom does have a value in and of itself:
"In the South African
context, it would be a bit like arguing for free
Mozilla already offers pretty good simple HTML editor. You can use that
along side OOo, and it includes a good web browser, mail client and news
reader as well. No real need to re-invent the wheel, unless you are sure
about inventing a better one.
XMetal and Dreamweaver have the advanced WWW
That is why I recommended that OOo point to Mozilla for that
functionality. Mozilla's already rather mainstream, but having the
official documentation point to it wouldn't hurt. If some businesses have
subscribed to the monolith way of thinking, hten perhaps an arrangement
can be made to bund
But the difference between copyright and patents are that patents govern
the *use* or *implementation* of that idea not just dissemination. So
that's why with software being governed by copyright, you can have several
programs that do the same thing. If software becomes governed by patents
in
One problem is the junk patent which is far too vague and covers obvious
developments and covers prior art. Two perl modules come to mind right
off "Storeable" and "Data::Dumper";, I'm sure there are other serialization
modules in C libraries or even Pascal if one wants examples going back to
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Peter Reaper wrote:
[...]
Now the EU could, as a *client*, require that all electronically submitted
reports be in an open format...
[...]
That is an excellent idea. Where would one start on that?
I can think of similar reasons to do the same in the US for NSF and NIH.
-La
The article, and cetainly some replies, makes a mistake that many other
similar articles make: MS is not the alpha and omega of closed source so
the debate is not MS vs OpenSource, but MS vs both Closed and Open Source.
We get reminded of that every time MS gets caught using illegal methods
aga
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
You would think that a conservative institution like Harvard would wanna
skew its results in Microsoft's favor. But I thought that their
analysis was surprisingly not handicapped very much in Microsoft's
favor.
Perhaps that's the best they co
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Jonathon Blake wrote:
It is such a small niche that microsoft has announced that they have
lost, and will continue to lose market share in the desktop, and
office suite, due to FLOSS products.
Uppsala University, for example, got a 90% discount on MS-Office. I'm not
sure
I'm travelling this week, but am willing to look at the survey. No
proprietary formats please. ;)
-Lars
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On Mon, 8 Aug 20
Sorry, I hadn't meant to send to the whole list. Fingers went on auto
pilot.
However, I wonder if there have been any studies about what functions /
features people actually use or want to use in a productivity suite?
How about HCI studies with people unfamiliar with computers?
-Lars
Lars
I too am not a fan of overly automated tools and have often stated that
OOo should learn from MSO's mistakes, not emulate them.
To back up Lyle's opinion, I worked a help desk for some years and every
time a new package came out that we supported, we were flooded for months
with questions abou
I'm not much for conspiracy theories either, anything that requires much
planning or accuracy is doomed.
It's been hard to find articles that are more than just re-writes of the
Register piece (or whatever they used). However, it does seem that a
common theme in the earlier articles was probl
I notice that the list of HOWTOs for the Database Access section is
missing a Mail Merge howto:
http://dba.openoffice.org/howto/index.html
I'm sure that a clever and motivated person could figure it out from the
existing documents, but mail merge is such a common activity that it would
Maybe this belongs more on the marketing list.
Can one of the liaisons in Denmark ensure that OpenDocuments gets placed
with equal or better billing than the MS noise here:
http://www.oio.dk/software
This is something that OOo could do in conjunction with the other packages
which supp
OOo will get further recognition if academic publishers like Elsevier
listed OpenDocument as their preferred format (or one of them) for
receiving articles.
-Lars
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Being on OS X, I'm still only running v 1.1.2, but does the beta for v2.0
have lots of label templates?
For example WordPerfect used to have lots of mailing label templates for
different label sizes, identified by brand and model such as Avery 5621
for thirty 1" x 2-5/8" labels per 8.5"x11" sh
Less RAM would be good. Also, the "$100 laptop" would also be a good
reason to try to make OOo more modular so that it is possible to install
only the components that will be used. e.g. install only Writer or only
Writer + Calc.
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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I'm looking for the URL (either HTTP or FTP) for an RPM for OOo >1.9 that
will work on Fedora or Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3. It's been a few years
since I've worked with RPMs so I'd appreciate any tips about download
sites.
-Lars
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On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Lars D. Noodén wrote:
I'm looking for the URL (either HTTP or FTP) for an RPM for OOo >1.9 that
will work on Fedora or Red Hat Enterprise L
As the other replies mentioned, there is not need since Thunderbird and
Evolution fill that role nicely. Here are some links:
Thunderbird:
http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/
Evolution:
http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/features/evolution.html
http://www.
As others have mentioned, Mozilla or Thunderbird will handle mail and
addressbook functions, calendaring is under development. Evolution will
handle maiol, address book and calendaring.
You can read more about or download Mozilla or Evolution from these two
addresses:
http://www.mozi
For the time being, but that's rapidly changing.
On the other hand MS Outlook does not offer the same degree of standards
complliance, robustness (esp in regard to malware) and offers no cross
platform capabilities. "Integration", when used by MS, seems of late to
have become a code word for
My personal experience is that when vendors say that there is no customer
demand, what they really mean is that whatever is being requested does not
currently fit the vendor's agenda for the foreseeable future.
One incident that gave a strong impression on me was when I visited or
corresponded
I've been looking for OOo 1.5 or one of the betas for OOo 2 for OS X, but
have not had any luck. I've found some Linux-on-Intel binaries and French
OS X binaries here:
http://macosxrc.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/
but no luck with English binaries for OS X. Where should
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
[snip]
time that features and functions listed in the MS ads and brochures failed
to work or even exist in the shipped version of the product. MS has a long
track record of leveraging vaporware to disadvantage competitors. It would
be no surprise
This is something I could contribute to as it overlaps closely with my
past experience. Plus it's some functionality my dad and his colleagues
have statet that they want and could be convinced to be guinea pigs
during the development.
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
On the Inter
On Sat, 2005-10-15 at 18:08 -0400, Chad Smith wrote:
Over 3 years to get 25% saturation? It's almost worth it. But you yourself,
coder as you are, could create hacked filters for Microsoft Office in those
three-years time, and claim the victory.
Actually not, there are two big legal reasons why
What are the new file extensions for the OpenDocument formats?
-Lars
(Sorry, I can't just look because there's no recent version for OS X yet.)
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog ...
... until you start barking.
---
Agreed. I ran across a few messages claiming that OOo 2 is *finally*
available for download, so I was all psyched up to download it for OS X.
Sadly, OOo 1.1.2 is the latest version available for Macitnosh users.
What is the general timeline for OO2 for OS X, or has that been officially
droppe
Thanks. The OOo downloading page didn't seem to be updated when I checked
on Saturday. Today OOo 2 sites are listed, though I had to try four to
get the file.
Neooffice/J is fine, but it's still version 1.1
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
On the Internet, nobody knows you're a
I also recall seeing that > 32% of MS Office sales are *not* from OEMs.
Even Be, Inc., despite winning their lawsuit, wasn't able to break the MS
death grip on the OEMs, but that non-OEM 32% is potentially able to go to
OOo, as long as they're not locked into some MS only server side service.
There were no ODF-supporting versions of OOo for OS X available to me
at the time I wrote the message.
I'll have to remember the ibiblio address for the future. Is there anyway
to get it added to the OOo download page?
-Lars
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
You mean that the M
Hi, Krystian,
People usually choose their own e-mail clients. Several that get
recommended are:
Evolution
http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/
Thunderbird
http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/
The Mozilla suite
http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/
Any Massachussetts registered voters could help out by contacting their
governor, secretary of state and their representative in the state senate
regarding this issue:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/10/25/HNstateopendoc_1.html
It would be useful to pin down the sources and specific
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, Marco Fioretti wrote:
There has been indeed a lot of confusion made between sw applications and
file formats in this case, and not all of it is in good faith.
Agreed. Furthermore, I suspect that there may be other acts of bad faith.
However, as far as disability groups
There is rumored to be turnover of key staff at the vendor currently being
petitioned for OpenDoccument support:
http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Key_executive_resigns_from_Microsoft/0,261733,39219076,00.htm
The last paragraph says:
"It's rumoured that a lead devel
The MS XML format being counter-proposed by MS is not in use in any
industry nor even in any product for sale today, not even MS' own.
Please keep that important fact in sight, however irritating it may be.
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Andrew Brown wrote:
MS make the industry standard file format.
[s
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Andrew Brown wrote:
A much larger part is our support for MS Office formats. Without that, OOo
would be completely usless to businesses.
Which is the point and probably on the list of things to do.
To further that goal, US sw patents, the DMCA/EUCD and the EEA all provide
The article covers the use of proprietary formats and digital restrictions
managment technology to lock customers' own data into a single company's
products. Neither OOo nor OpenDocument are named explicitly, but would be
relevant:
"Might is right in IT world"
http://computerworld.co.nz/
People buy MS products mostly because they're the only thing you *can*
buy due to a lock on the OEMs.
Probably a more cost effective step would be to first get the OEM
contracts into the daylight. MS claims that they are 'trade secrets' or
some such nonsense. Getting at those would be a sign
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005, Daniel Carrera wrote:
[snip]
Microsoft is not claiming patents on any processes necessary to read or write
.doc files. They just keep the format closed, change it on every release, and
leave you to guess how it works.
[snip]
It was my understanding that the company has sw
It's legal, but may I ask what prompts you to ask? There must be some
origin for the doubt.
-Lars
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On Fri, 28 Oc
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005, Brian Lunergan wrote:
[snip]
I'm not sure chucking him out is called for. My Org Behaviour course has
been talking about behaviour modification in the workplace. We've all
been rewarding his behaviour by being a good audience and responding
every time he opens his mouth.
On
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005, Ian Lynch wrote:
On Fri, 2005-10-28 at 13:46 -0700, Dan Kegel wrote:
Daniel Carrera wrote:
M. Fioretti wrote:
In the last year C. Smith has repeatedly annoyed many other members of
this list. Apart from (lack of) good manners, he has consistantly
demonstrated ignorance of
Very well written response, Marco, especially with the examples from the
mail archive.
-Lars
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Robin Laing wrote:
[snip]
But as I work on more complicated spreadsheets, I find that OOo lacks
features that Excel (which I hate) has. I would prefer that Calc went
towards Quattro Pro as this has been the best spreadsheet software package
that I have ever used. So much
Robin,
That would be a very interesting case study. Would you have the time and
interest to write up the situation, the problems, and the reasons for
selecting TeX and OOo?
Maybe it could be on Newforge but, regardless, it would be a valuable an
interesting resource on its own: It would be
One of the common mistakes that draws people into that kind of pointless
debate is equating "Linux" with all Open Source Software and equating MS
with all closed source or proprietary software.
There used to be very many excellent closed source tools on the market.
Now there are not but a few
Richard,
The point is not that he is wrong or that most people disagree with him.
The point is that his behaviour is rude, disruptive and antagonistic.
Seemingly it is all on purpose. Many of the arguments seem just that,
arguments for the sake of argument apparently in disregard to his own
We are not talking about his support of a politician or poitical movement,
we are talking about rude, disruptive behavior over a long period.
Just set the mail software so that his replies only go to himself.
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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I've finally read through David's well thought out "Comments on
Microsoft's Letter"
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20051029212458555&mode=nested
The MS letter appears to consist primarily of factual errors,
misinformation and misunderstanding. This is far from the first time
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Sam Hiser wrote:
[snip]
Adelstein has a paper on line about techniques for combating
Disinformation
[snip]
What is the URL?
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Keep them out of the EU by wri
The governor's role is still unclear. MS is probably working on him
heavily.
IIRC The other year in Oregon, some open source (in contrast to this open
standard) legislation was derailed in committee by the chair(?) taking it
off the agenda without explanation.
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROT
." it does not offer counter examples.
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Sam Hiser wrote:
On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 10:2
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Robin Laing wrote:
[snip]
I just thought of something. Wasn't Microsoft's first document against Linux
with FUD called the Halloween paper or something like that. :)
[snip]
They should be here, but have very recently moved.
http://www.opensource.org/halloween/
They
It would hardly bear a response if it were an isolated incident, but if
one looks outside the scope of just OOo, then it's about one a day.
Sometimes it's more. ZDNet is not alone.
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Be careful about getting dragged into the M$ alternate definitions of
English words. There currently is no *standard* in use in Massachusetts.
The current binary MS formats may certainly be ubiquitous, but are
anything but standard. There are variations for each version of each
package on eac
Mark recommended a very instructive debate FAQ, though set in the context
of theology it looks quite useful in dealing with some of the chaff being
thrown out by much of the media on behalf of MS:
Debate and logic FAQ
http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html
Much of the debate
Well it'd be great if IBM, Google, HP, Sun or anyone else could convince
the media to take time from their three or four daily MS pieces, not
counting put-up pieces, and cover the core issues or facts. I wouldn't
even mind if they kept the negative spin on the articles, if they just
stuck with
I'm not talking about hype there, nor even specific reviews. What I am
refering to is the frequency of put up pieces on anything and everything
from MS. That's not a close vs open source issue, that's MS vs everybody
issue.
Those pieces give all appearances of being editorials masquerading a
Since you bring up hype, I've not seen so much hype about OOo, but maybe
I'm looking on the wrong lists or forums. Most review articles merely
state some of the main advantages and disadvantages that the author finds
important. Most of the hype, I've seen comes from the MS camp (i.e.
anti- cl
No one's stopping you from sending your sister large mails with bas64
encoded images and other things. She's not on the list. However, it's
wrong to send attachments and HTML encoded mail to most mailing lists.
For my part, I find that 99% of HTML messages are just spam. So on the
technical
The many OOo mailing lists currently embed list management information in
the message headers. Can the 'list-archive' header be added to those,
please? Accessing the archive of old messages is one of the more
important advantages of using list.
That would provide a quick link to the lists me
If you look at OOo Writer, there is the possibility to do that a
little. The menu 'View' -> 'Web Layout' should get you started.
The Mozilla suite (http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/) also has a
built in editor for single pages.
If you are looking for something to manage a whole web
I have quite a collection of documents in legacy formats that I am
starting to migrate to OpenDocument. Right now I'm noticing some
difficulty importing them into OOo2 for OS X. The files could be MS Word
for Windows 2.0c from 1993 or MS Word 95 for MS Windows 95 from 1997.
It's hard to tell,
Thanks. The short answer seems to be to wait for an eventual MS Word 2.0
filter or to convert them by hand.
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Tue, 8 Nov 2005, CPHennessy wrote:
On Fri November 4 2005 09:27, Lars D. Noodén wrote:
The many OOo mailing lists currently embed list management information in
the message headers. Can the 'list-archive' header be added to those,
please? Accessing the archive of old messages is one o
One can still have a combined mail + calendar client without emulating the
mistakes of MS. Whether OOo leaves that for other projects or starts yet
another mail + calendar client project, there is the opportunity to design
the interface (among other things) more correctly based usability
and t
Charlie's article mirrors my thoughts on the memo very closely:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27594
To me it's simply part of a campaign to keep the name in the headlines so
that people (esp. editors) don't leave time for discussion of OO2,
OpenDocument, Firefox, CPAN, etc...
-L
Here is another analysis of the memos:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/10/gates_ozzie_memos/
My 2 cents: It's interesting to note the amount of apparent revisionist
history going on indirectly through the 'leaked' memos and more overtly
through put-up pieces. Back in 1995, when bo
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