On Jun 6, 2008, at 5:09 PM, cardemaister wrote:
> You seem to imply that e.g. in PataƱjali's saMyama there is
> vyutthaana. IMO, the description of saMyama in the first four suutras
> of vibhuuti-paada doesn't seem to support that kind of view.
> Furthermore:
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> sarvaarthaikaagratayoH kSayodayau
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---You still haven't provided any evidence (aside from your usual
appeal to dead Authorities) that Self-Realization eliminates
suffering DURING one's physical lifetime.
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
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> > I take issue with the Neo-Advaitin
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> On Jun 6, 2008, at 2:01 PM, cardemaister wrote:
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> I take issue with the Neo-Advaitin claim that
> suffering is eliminated.
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Well, I wasn't referring to 'Neo-Awaitin' claims
- whatever they may be. But it's a fact that all
but one system of Indian philosophy agrees with
the Sankhya notion that life is essentially marked
by suffering, with the
Vaj wrote:
> As I believe I've explained here before,
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Well no, you haven't explained much of anything here
before. In fact, you've been deliberatly trying to
obsfucate, so far as I can tell. And you're always
trying to trash the Marshy. For what purpose?
> in an agama like this one, samyama h
--- Right, stress can be reduced, as well as overall suffering (if
one can even measure such things). However, I take issue with the Neo-
Advaitin claim that suffering is eliminated. The main problem with
Neo-Advaitinism is that is allows for no gradations or progressions
of evolution. It seem
Vaj wrote:
> It never ceases to amaze me how much
> dis- and mis-information you can
> squeeze into just one email.
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Indeed!
Centering - An excerpt from the Shiva Sutra,
translated by Swami by Lakshmanjoo:
7. Devi, imagine the Sanskrit letters in
these honey-filled foci of awareness, first
> > When you realize this, all discontent and
> > mental suffering come to an end, you are
> > liberated: you know that you are free and
> > immortal. You don't have to be reborn or
> > come back anymore."
> >
> My comment: I haven't seen much evidence
> that "all discontent" is eliminated.
On Jun 6, 2008, at 2:01 PM, cardemaister wrote:
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On Jun 6, 2008, at 3:04 AM, cardemaister wrote:
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On Jun 5, 2008, at 6:45 PM, cardemaister wrote:
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--(from below): "- When you realize this,
all discontent and mental suffering come to an
end, you are liberated: you know that you are
free and immortal. You don't have to be reborn
or come back anymore."
My comment: I haven't seen much evidence that "all discontent" is
eliminated. Also, Ramak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Jun 6, 2008, at 3:04 AM, cardemaister wrote:
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> >> On Jun 5, 2008, at 6:45 PM, cardemaister wrote:
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> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifux
It never ceases to amaze me how much dis- and mis-information you can
squeeze into just one email.
On Jun 6, 2008, at 11:57 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
> Vaj wrote:
>> He was the last living acharya
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> In fact, the tradition of Laksmanjoo is
> carried on by his successor, Virish Hughes,
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Vaj wrote:
> He was the last living acharya
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In fact, the tradition of Laksmanjoo is
carried on by his successor, Virish Hughes,
who recieved the transmission directly
from Swami Laksmanjoo in Kashmir. The main
tantric yoga practice in Kashmir Shaivism
is a meditation that is transcendental,
On Jun 6, 2008, at 3:04 AM, cardemaister wrote:
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On Jun 5, 2008, at 6:45 PM, cardemaister wrote:
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44. What is meant by restraint in the centre of the brow? The l
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> On Jun 5, 2008, at 6:45 PM, cardemaister wrote:
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> >> 44. What is meant by restraint in the centre of the brow? The left
> >> and right in the central
On Jun 5, 2008, at 6:45 PM, cardemaister wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
44. What is meant by restraint in the centre of the brow? The left
and right in the central channel.
Seems like the translator doesn't know Sanskrit syntax very
wel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 44. What is meant by restraint in the centre of the brow? The left
> and right in the central channel.
Seems like the translator doesn't know Sanskrit syntax very
well. The last word of that suutra is a compound wor
On Apr 8, 2005, at 2:43 PM, anonymousff wrote:
> How you implement and use these Sutras? do you use the Sidhis
> technique for each sutra?
The Shiva Sutra is an agama of the Trika system. It does not advocate
samyama on certain objects like Patanjali and it a very different
system of yoga alt
How you implement and use these Sutras? do you use the Sidhis
technique for each sutra?
Thanks
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Dean Goodman
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> Dear Fairfield Lifers,
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> Here is a copy of the Shiva Sutras that I just came across, trans-
> lated by Maha
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