[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > That's why a progressive income tax is a good thing. It is an > > disincentive to accumulating excessive

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > A flat tax (some say 17% would do it) with no or few deductions, > > starting at incomes over $30-50,00

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > History shows that not to be true at all. Most are just greedy bastards > who care little about their fellow humanity. People like Bill Gates are > a rare exception Well 280 billion annually in american philanthropy s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was just reading in the Times about Richard Grasso, > who, making $12 million a year, went through all kinds > of contortions to obtain his $140 million retirement > package. > > At some point in the accumulation o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
Original posts > I was just reading in the Times about Richard Grasso, > who, making $12 million a year, went through all kinds > of contortions to obtain his $140 million retirement > package. > > At some point in the accumulation of wealth, money > ceases to be a medium of exchange and becomes s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > When rich people talk about money, they're talking > > > about something entirely differ

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Free Saddam Hussein'

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Judy never met a mass-murdering dictator she didn't like. Bush? Nixon? Oh, you said "dictators", not "almost or hopeful dictators". My mistake. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes and Stepped up Basis

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Few people are aware that any suggestion for the elimination of the > estate tax comes with the elimination of the stepped-up basis for > capital gains. Currently, all capital gains get "stepped-up" of > their co

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > &

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > &

[FairfieldLife] The Massive Shortcomings of New.Morning

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
>From adjacent post: [to Judy] If you wish to start a new thread on "The Massive Shortcomings of New.Morning" I could start it with at least several 100 points. But I am biased. I am sure you cite 1000's of points, real or imagined. And just let Unc get started. Perhaps you and others can start th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
raits -- not a critique of the thesis itelf. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_sla

[FairfieldLife] Vit B12 Methyl Form

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
Thanks card for posting the article on B12. For decades, as a vegetarian (mostly -- with a 2-3 year trial exception of fish and poultry ) and vegan at times, I have been aware of the need to supplement ones diet with B12. I did not know the low absorbsion rate of the almost universally used form

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Free Saddam Hussein'

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > For Bush to say Saddam wouldn't let them in is simply a lie. > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > new.morning wrote: > >>> BTW, do you fancy yourself a Libertarian? You read that way. > > > >I don't fancy myself anything. I don't take some platform and adopt > >it. I think through each issue and decide on the merit

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Massive Shortcomings of New.Morning

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > From adjacent post: > > > > [to Judy] > > If you wish to start a new thread on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > Judy, > > > > Again, I am heartedned that your manfiest critique of my observation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > Judy, > > > > Again, I am heartedned that your manfiest critique of my observation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > Judy, > > > > Again, I am heartedned that your manfiest critique of my observation

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Massive Shortcomings of New.Morning

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
Re: The Massive Shortcomings of New.Morning --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > From adjacent post: > > > > [to Judy] >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Progressive and Flat Taxes

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > new_morning_blank_slate wrote: > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > >>new.morning wrote: > >> > >> > >&g

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vit B12 Methyl Form

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Like many TM'ers back in the late 1970's I gave up on being a > vegetarian. I had too many bouts with hypoglycemia, anemia and vata > derangements. Using supplements will not often deal with the pH > imbalance that

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Massive Shortcomings of New.Morning

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > Of course all others are cordially welcomed to chime in. Unc, Tom, > > Jim, Peter all have good, perhap

[FairfieldLife] Another Damn, Greedy, Non-Empthatetic Rich Person! Let Lynch the Basards!

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
We were sitting in a Manhattan living room on a spring afternoon, and Warren Buffett had a Cherry Coke in his hand as usual. But this unremarkable scene was about to take a surprising turn. "Brace yourself," Buffett warned with a grin. He then described a momentous change in his thinking. Within m

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vit B12 Methyl Form

2006-06-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think a good test would be to take an Indian who comes from a long > line of vegetarians and pair him with a westerner who claims they > function well as a vegetarian and see who actually performs better in a > batte

[FairfieldLife] FFL Sutras

2006-03-03 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
In reading posts over the years, it appears that a variety of posters hold the same Views on a number of points. For example, I sense the following points are (near) consensus views. It appears among the proponents of such -- though perhaps stated in somewhat different terms -- are Tom T., Jim, Bar

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Sutras

2006-03-03 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 3, 2006, at 6:48 PM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote: > > > 3) There are many paths and many mountians. Process is Product (LBS, > > and to a degree others such as akasha/anon) > &

[FairfieldLife] Re: Greetings from the dream fields :)

2006-03-03 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
While I have great reservations, concerns, and downright complaints about the TMO and MUM in recent years, I always have a soft spot, for "monks and nuns" who dedicate themselves to IT. While they may be deluded in a localized spiral of things, I applaud their non-attachement in the larger sphere

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Sutras

2006-03-04 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > > >>May I take a stab at integrating your insights/realizations/ > >>\knowledge -- which btw, relate beyond point 3.3 -- into the > >>perenial DRAFT FFL Sutras, v1.1? Turquoise Blue ? wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Sutras

2006-03-04 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > > > > > > >>May I take

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Sutras

2006-03-04 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
Good one. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mrfishey2001" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > "May I take a stab at integrating your insights/realizations/ > kn

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-15 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >  There's no "side effect" to CC: its just the brain > better maintaining the global connectivity > of Pure Consciousness along with  the normal > activation of various states whether major > states like waking, dreaming and sleeping, or > localized activi

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-15 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: Totally fascinating article (long) in the New York Times magazine.  A few excerpts: My Pain, My Brain ... The area of the brain that the scanner focus

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-15 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > Perhaps variations and imperfections of the [INTERPRETATION of the] "experience" of IT, consciousness being alive within itself explains some of the logical  discrpency. IT certainly feels like IT is self-sufficient

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-15 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
My points, interspersed are not meant as argumentative. But they seek to put in fuller light some delicious contradictions still remaining. Which may be "real", or artifacts of language or loopy logic. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That "CC/

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-15 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The shift from a bound self to a > non-localized Self is pure acausal grace that can not > be enacted from the side of the bound mind. And if the shift occurs, and there is something acausal, then what does the acausal

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-16 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And contradiction is bad exactly why? In my view, there is a vast realm where logic is of great value, and where contradictions are indicative of an error. And there are other realms which are outside the realm of

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-16 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" > Tom T; > This thing called Enlightenment or Awakening is the ultimate paradox. > It can be lived but anything and everything one can say about IT can > also be both true and untrue at the same time as it can not acurately

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-16 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" >  > Tom T: > An analogy is to think about sitting in front of a 10 million > candlewatt strobe light with the eyes closed and wearing an eye mask. > THe effect of all that light will leave an imprint on the physiology > e

[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?

2006-05-16 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "There's a Miss Boom-Boom LaVerne here for you," Ah, another Bob Cummings fan. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join Th

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-16 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > I honestly thin

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-16 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > >I honestly think that what you're *h

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-16 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > >I honestly think that what you're *h

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-16 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
"understand" it > > >using the rational mind. And you hope that despite > > >the fact that most of the enlightened throughout > > >history have said just the opposite, that it *can't* > > >be understood or described by the rational mind.

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Pain, My Brain

2006-05-16 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
ss, albeit mild, to my attention. I vow to try to refrain from such in the future. Please feel free to bring any lapses of such to my attention. Thank you for your kind attention. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In Fairfie

[FairfieldLife] Re: Domash

2006-05-21 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > However eventually this was supplanted with the idea that  > > consciousness *was* the unified field--and thus the infamous > > Hagelin article where he ga

[FairfieldLife] Re: Domash

2006-05-21 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > However eventually this was supplanted with the idea that > > consciousness *was* the unified field--and thus the infamous > > Hagelin article where he gave

[FairfieldLife] Re: Domash

2006-05-21 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On May 21, 2006, at 4:12 AM, sparaig wrote: > >  > > > > > > Domash, IIRC, ... but > > > he didn't buy into MMY's ideas about Quantum Mechanics. That so

[FairfieldLife] Re: Domash

2006-05-21 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Domash

2006-05-21 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On May 21, 2006, at 6:20 PM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote: > > > But in what I observed, he hardly  "came to MIU in the first place > > because his expert view was that consci

[FairfieldLife] Re: Domash

2006-05-21 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But I could never tell where the line was with MMY: was this all > > just an analogy or was it describing the reality? > > > > It's not an anology for MMY or Hagelin either. Perhaps it was for >Domash. Maybe that's 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Domash

2006-05-21 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On May 21, 2006, at 6:20 PM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote: > > > > > But in what I observed, h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Domash

2006-05-21 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > &

[FairfieldLife] Re: How do you spell roo

2006-05-22 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ashelkent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > That's the normal way it works, anyway.  If the > > book is being self-published, the schedule could > > be shorter depending on how much of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-23 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 5/23/06 11:20 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > On May 23, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > >> I was listening to Eckhart Tolle yesterday (Silence Speaks) and he was > >> saying that any

[FairfieldLife] Driven by the Past -- A Sign of Deep Spirituality?

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
Since last night 11pm or so PST, there have been 25 posts. 15 of them stem from Shemp deciding now was a good time to revisit his views of what Judy posted in January. If that one post were kept at the poster's thought level, the ensuing low value (IMO) 14 posts would have not been posted. If

[FairfieldLife] Re: Driven by the Past -- A Sign of Deep Spirituality?

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Since last night 11pm or so PST, there have been 25 posts. 15 of them > stem from Shemp deciding now was a good time to revisit his views of > what Judy posted in January. > &g

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
ost interesting -- those we assume are "given", true a priori. A more specific response to your points later. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 5/24/06 12:29 AM, new_morning_blank_slate at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Driven by the Past -- A Sign of Deep Spirituality?

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > Since last night 11pm or so PST, there have been 25 posts. 15 of > them > > stem from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Driven by the Past -- A Sign of Deep Spirituality?

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > "Is being driven by and apparently obsessed with the past a sign of > > something g

[FairfieldLife] Re: Driven by the Past -- A Sign of Deep Spirituality?

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > &

[FairfieldLife] Re: Driven by the Past -- A Sign of Deep Spirituality?

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [It is useful to be] constantly being open to new data and new > concepts. For > example, maybe we often skip a poster which our theory predicts will > waste our time. BUT, my poin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Driven by the Past -- A Sign of Deep Spirituality?

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > > wrote: > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Driven by the Past -- A Sign of Deep Spirituality?

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > > wrote: > > > > &

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > In a way, it's like that bar where the regulars had > > > heard all the jokes so man

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree there's a severe limit to the progress that can be made with > talk therapy that focuses on intellectual analysis of past hurts.  But > the fact remains that you can't transcend your way out of deep

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree there's a severe limit to the progress that can be made with > talk therapy that focuses on intellectual analysis of past hurts.  But > the fact remains that you can't transcend your way out of deep

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I > have several friends who Awakened recently, and they say that soon > thereafter, the shit hit the fan. They began feeling guilt and other > emotions that needed dealing with a thousand times more intensely than >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I > have several friends who Awakened recently, and they say that soon > thereafter, the shit hit the fan. They began feeling guilt and other > emotions that needed dealing with a thousand times more intensely than > b

[FairfieldLife] Re: 24 adopted countries

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > whyich brings us back to the question which these countries are. > > Anyonre knows? The Good Ones, obviously. :) Someone posted a list a while back. I think Netherlands, most of Scandanavia, Germany, some "ne

[FairfieldLife] Beliefs (was Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med)

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Self in each of us recognizes the Self in another. We are > conscious of this to one degree or another, whether our Self has > been fully awakened to us, or not. > > This is how someone somewhat Awake will r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 5/24/06 2:02 PM, new_morning_blank_slate  > > Asking the same question that you asked Vaj, why do you make > > unprovable assumption that these people are Awakened? > > 'cau

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > on 5/24/06 2:02 PM, new_morning_blank_slate at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > > > Or that the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > > > > on 5/24/06 3:04 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Beliefs (was Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med)

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With all respect, I think you have missed the point of what I have > written. Perhaps. I am certainly open to any corrections. But perhaps you have missed my point. You have an "experience" / "knowlwedge" tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLif

[FairfieldLife] CC (was Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med)

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Or that the > > > > > label "Awakening" has much of a c

[FairfieldLife] Beliefs (was Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med)

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > With all respect, the bedrock of my Awakening serves as the > foundation for that which I write. Accept it or not, makes no > difference to me. And why would I, or anyone, accept "your truth" or your "awakening". si

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, his term was Self Actualization. Most people on this forum share a > common definition of Self Realization. Which is? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > On May 24, 2006, at 4:21 PM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote: > > > I ask you both, with no rancor, do you believe that > the high

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > And in your worldview, what do you call the state where all > > > illusions > > > > have been dissolved? > > > > > > 'the state where all illusions have b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > > > > > And in your worldview, what do you call the state where

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > > > So "shit" is rejection. OK Rev. Jim. > > > > > > > F

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > > > I have asked because some/many would not associate illusions with > > aw

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > > > >As I said before, whether you > > > accept it or not makes n

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beliefs that

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > holding any belief as valid or true would be a > filter or impostion on what is. Any belief we could hold would then > keep us from real integrity. And the riches that can flow freely are > not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fundamentalist or reconstructionist med

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > If one is using E. or similar terms, but meaning a > > state with different attributes than the MMY

[FairfieldLife] Attributes of Various Enlightenments

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I simply disagree with you, and see much of what you have written > above as invalid from my point of view. In the "above", I made five basic points. 1) I rarely accept unprovable assertions as a priori true

[FairfieldLife] Illusionary Awakening

2006-05-24 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > > 'the state where all illusions have been dissolved'? Actually I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Attributes of Various Enlightenments

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > You appear to be saying: "I want to let all of you know that I am a > > living ex

[FairfieldLife] Re: Attributes of Various Enlightenments

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > > As I said yesterday: > >  > > "The Self in each of us recognizes the Self in anot

[FairfieldLife] Re: Attributes of Various Enlightenments

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > "I'm OK, You're OK" was actually a 2x2 matrix, giving rise to four > sta

[FairfieldLife] Re: Urdhva-retas?

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > What kind of negative or annoying side-effects, if > > > any

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > An interesting remark by David Orme-Johnson: > > "Over the 40 years that I've been interested in > self-development, *I've tried most of the meditation > and relaxation techniques that are out there* > (emp

[FairfieldLife] Re: Urdhva-retas?

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister > > > > I seem to recall one of Krishna's criteria for a true > > yogii/yoginii is that s/he is "jitendri-

[FairfieldLife] Re: Urdhva-retas?

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 5/25/06 1:07 PM, new_morning_blank_slate at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > >> > >> I seem to recall one of Krishna's criteria for a true > >> yogii/yoginii is that s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" > > wrote: &g

[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing meditation practices

2006-05-25 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" > > wrote: &

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