"Psychoceramic-- crackpot.
Jim, that joke is older then the invention of the mandolin!
Larry
Well I thought it was funny, but then I'm a strange sorta guy
who obviouslly missed out on a few old jokes :-)
PrinceGaz.
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I didn't say it wasn't funny. It was 90 years
las wrote:
I didn't say it wasn't funny. It was 90 years ago when I heard it for
the first time.
Jeez, how the heck old are you, Larry? G
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"J. Coon" wrote:
las wrote:
I didn't say it wasn't funny. It was 90 years ago when I heard it for
the first time.
Jeez, how the heck old are you, Larry? G
I was born about 10,000 years ago. There ain't nothin in this world that I
don't know. I saw Peter, Paul and Mosses playing
las [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's not quite true, Larry. If you look up "psychosomatic" in a
modern dictionary, it has two definitions. The first is medical.
The second is "relating to or concerned with the influence of the mind
on the body" and can relate to any situation where the mind
Someone wrote:
| That isn't Psychoacoustics! Psychoacoustics is in fact the complete
| opposite!
I think the other poster might have meant "psychosomatics." You believe
something, so your body reacts accordingly.
Then there is the psychoceramic too. Isn't that what some of the
"Psychoceramic-- crackpot.
Jim, that joke is older then the invention of the mandolin!
Larry
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Peter Forest wrote:
Are you related to the man who owns Hi
nidisc.com
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Peter Forest wrote:
Are you related to the man who owns Hi Space or do yo
From: "Peter Forest" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Also, sorry for all my english, I'm originally French so I try my best to
write what I think and what I've experienced in the best English I can
use...
Hey Pierre this is the internet, anyone who even thinks of trying to
correct someones spelling or
The start up costs for manufacturing MDs must have come down, because
3 years
ago (except for Hi Space) all MDs were made in Japan. MDs were not
selling well
enough outside of Japan to invest big bucks in an MD manufacturing
facility.
I dug out a receipt dated Nov '94 for AU$190 being
PrinceGaz wrote:
Hey Pierre this is the internet, anyone who even thinks of trying to
correct someones spelling or grammar, especially if English is not the
senders first language, is the one who should be saying sorry.
Being dyslexic, can even be harder than English being a second
PS - that's when the (fairly large and low on specs by today's standards)
MZR-2 was AU$1499 or a 'cheap' £450
GB
I dug out a receipt dated Nov '94 for AU$190 being for 10 blank 74 min
discs. That was when (if you could find them) they were $22 (or £10) a
pop
at major stores.
Now I can buy
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 18 Aug 2000
| We all agree on that: the only bit of contention is whether the word "psycho-
| acoustic" covers that. The word "psychosomatic" certainly does.
Not really:
psychosomatic
adj : used of illness or symptoms resulting from neurosis.
Psychosomatics
The Ratman is right again. Psychosomatic is strictly a medical term. Sometimes
medical terms do end up finding there way into other areas, such as a "virus". But
this has not happened to the term psychosomatic yet.
The same hold true for the term placebo which Rick W. used. At this point in
Larry wrote,
| Psychosomatic is strictly a medical term. Sometimes
| medical terms do end up finding there way into other areas, such as a
| "virus". But this has not happened to the term psychosomatic yet.
Yes, Larry, it has; perhaps you personally refuse to use it any other way and
I can't
Rick has brought up that psychoacoustics is physiology rather than psycho-
logy: it is the study of how perception of sound is affected equally among
all humans by our ears and brains rather than individually by our minds, so
thinking one MD brand sounds better than another is not
Larry wrote,
| This is really an area that people have tended to mistakenly take for
| granted. "Psycho is not real" so to speak.
Yes, there are other uses for the prefix "psycho" that muddy the issue
further.
| There is no real answers here because we are dealing in semantics ...
That's
On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 10:56:21 -0400, las [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Ratman is right again. Psychosomatic is strictly a medical term.
Sometimes medical terms do end up finding there way into other areas,
such as a "virus". But this has not happened to the term
psychosomatic yet.
That's not
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* "David W. Tamkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat, 19 Aug 2000
| Rick has brought up that psychoacoustics is physiology rather than psycho-
| logy: it is the study of how perception of sound is affected equally among
| all humans by our ears and brains rather than individually by our minds,
No, I
Try the TDK Gold, they are better than Maxell Gold...
Pierre Forest
http://www.kheopsminidisc.com - Kheops Minidisc
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Hi there,
Glad you're enjoying your 920.
I think this is pretty much a taboo issue. Scientifically, all blanks should
give you the same results. Some suggest a blind test to clear things up.
But firstly, I believe some things exist but can't be proven. Secondly, when
I listen to music, my
Your crazy!!
Nathan White
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Hi everyone:
I'm a total "newbie"
From: "Davini, Mark" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi everyone:
I'm a total "newbie" not only to this list, but also to Minidiscs in
general, just having purchased a Sony MDS-JB920. I love it! It sounds great.
Excellent, always good to have another Minidisc enthusiast.
I read the "Myths" within the
Nathan White wrote:
Your crazy!!
Nate. I'm very disappointed in you. I would never expect such a response
from a fine gentle man like you (I'm dyslexic and almost typed gentile-God
would that have it the fan if I didn't catch my typoROTFLMAO.
While I agree with you that he should not be
* "Davini, Mark" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 18 Aug 2000
| I read the "Myths" within the Minidisc.org page, and everything Mr.
| Woudenberg writes makes perfect sense to me, BUT - - - -
| Could someone please tell me WHY I REALLY DO hear a difference between discs
| then?
Psychoaccoustics. You
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"Davini, Mark" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I read the "Myths" within the Minidisc.org page, and everything
From: "Charles Redell" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't understand why there isn't a differnece in sound quality between
blanks (If that is really the case)? I mean, why are some more expensive tha
others? Are some not made better/easier for the laser to read/smoother
inoperation or something akin
I don't understand why there isn't a differnece in sound quality between
blanks (If that is really the case)? I mean, why are some more expensive tha
others? Are some not made better/easier for the laser to read/smoother
inoperation or something akin to all of that?
Cassettes definitely
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From: "Davini, Mark" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi everyone:
I'm a total "newbie" not only to this list, but also to Minidiscs in
general, just having purchased a Sony MDS-JB920. I love it! It sounds
great.
Excellent, always
Dave Kimmel wrote:
Think of it this way... A MiniDisc is a digital medium, just like a hard
drive.
When you install a program on a Fujitsu drive, is the program any
different than when you install it on a Maxtor drive? Do MP3s sound
better if you download them to a SCSI hard drive
Peter Forest wrote:
Try the TDK Gold, they are better than Maxell Gold...
Pierre Forest
I'm not sure what you are saying here. What do you mean by "better"??? Nicer
packaging? Stronger plastic used in the jacket? Or are you saying that they
will produce music that has a better sound
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I don't understand why there isn't a differnece in sound quality between
blanks (If that is really the case)? I mean, wh
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Psychoaccoustics. You believe that there is a difference, therefore you
hear a difference even when there is none.
That isn't Psychoacoustics! Psychoacoustics is in fact the complete
opposite!
Psychoacoustics is used to trick the human ear into think that there
Dave Hooper quoted someone, not saying who it was,
Psychoaccoustics. You believe that there is a difference, therefore you
hear a difference even when there is none.
and Dave responded.
| That isn't Psychoacoustics! Psychoacoustics is in fact the complete
| opposite!
I think the other
Dave Kimmel explained to Charles Redell and Mark Davini:
| When you install a program on a Fujitsu drive, is the program any
| different than when you install it on a Maxtor drive? Do MP3s sound
| better if you download them to a SCSI hard drive instead of an IDE one?
| Are any family photos
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From: "Charles Redell" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 8:23 PM
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I don't understand why there isn't a differnece in sound quality between
blanks (If that is really the case)? I mean, why are some more expe
any Memorex !)
Good Evening !
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Peter Forest wrote:
Try the TDK Gold, they are better
* "Dave Hooper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 18 Aug 2000
| That isn't Psychoacoustics!
Psycho (mind) accoustics (sound) is all about perception. That's why it is
called "perceptual encoding".
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* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David W. Tamkin) on Fri, 18 Aug 2000
| I think the other poster might have meant "psychosomatics." You believe
| something, so your body reacts accordingly.
No, I meant psychoacoustic, the subjective experience of audio vs. the
scientific measurement of sound by various
Well I'm glad that in your original statement when you said that TDKs were even
better. That you were not talking about the sound quality. That would have
totally destroyed your credibility.
What you state about the shell (I was calling it a jacket, because I couldn't
think of the name,
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Stainless Steel Rat wrote:
No, I meant
Rat reiterated,
| I stand by my statement: you believe that you will hear a difference,
| therefore you hear a difference, even when there is none.
We all agree on that: the only bit of contention is whether the word "psycho-
acoustic" covers that. The word "psychosomatic" certainly does.
I will have an interview with some guy from MPO (Hi Space France) soon and I
will ask him the question even if the guy from Hi-Space Canada already told
me that Memorex and Hi-Space are two really distinct company...
The man I dealt with told us he was the owner. He said that he was from
"Davini, Mark" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I read the "Myths" within the Minidisc.org page, and everything Mr.
Woudenberg writes makes perfect sense to me, BUT - - - - Could
someone please tell me WHY I REALLY DO hear a difference between
discs then?
I don't understand why there isn't a
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