Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-30 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 13:19:30 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > You can see Russia from a few select locations, islands, of course, > that belong to the US. Maybe Big Diomede Island in the Bering Strait. Nikolskoye Kamchatka Krai and the small island to its southeast are too far from Attu Is

Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
You can see Russia from a few select locations, islands, of course, that belong to the US. Dan > On Jul 30, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > It was Tina Fey, a comedian on Saturday Night Live, when portraying Palin > (and they look remarkable similar) said, "I can see

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2014-07-30 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
It was Tina Fey, a comedian on Saturday Night Live, when portraying Palin (and they look remarkable similar) said, "I can see Russia" Unfortunately those who do not like Palin erroneously attribute this quote to her to make her appear stupid. (There might be other evidence for that, but n

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2014-07-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That belonged to the state senator, Ted something. Dan > On Jul 30, 2014, at 12:41 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > Was Palin's "bridge to nowhere" going to Russia? Didn't it get built? > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wro

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2014-07-30 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Was Palin's "bridge to nowhere" going to Russia? Didn't it get built? On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > LOL! Even if you can see Russia I doubt you can drive there. > > > > > > -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government tha

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2014-07-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
<) >> >> Wilton >> >> - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> To: "Andrew Strasfogel" ; "Mercedes Discussion >> List" >> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:38 AM

Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
TW, will she be able to see Russia? ;<) > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: "Andrew Strasfogel" ; "Mercedes Discussion > List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014

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2014-07-30 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
ew Strasfogel" ; "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly? On 29/07/2014 8:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: What countries is she passing through, to get where exactly? She who must be

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2014-07-30 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 29/07/2014 8:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: What countries is she passing through, to get where exactly? She who must be admired? Uh, did you really ask that question? So, let me see, if you were on the west coast of the USA and wanted to drive to Alaska, what countries do

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2014-07-29 Thread Fmiser via Mercedes
> Andrew wrote: > > What countries is she passing through, to get where exactly? She > who must be admired? Excerpts from the very post you just quoted "Parts of the AlCan are still pretty rough "Put the car on a barge or ship in Portland or Seattle and fly up. Seattle and Portland are the Sam'

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2014-07-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What countries is she passing through, to get where exactly? She who must be admired? On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 9:46 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > SWMBA is completely off her rocker. I call her Last Minute Lucy, since > she is a day late and dollar short at planning things. I advised her to >

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2014-07-29 Thread clay via Mercedes
SWMBA is completely off her rocker. I call her Last Minute Lucy, since she is a day late and dollar short at planning things. I advised her to get her crap together last year, or at least by Feb. to begin house hunting. She began late May, and closed on what was available 28 days before the m

Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
d our value is increasing rapidly. > > -Curt > > > > From: Andrew Strasfogel > To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:51 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly? >

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2014-07-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
prove me for a quick sale. I'm assuming $25k is possible for what I want, if I could get $23k it might be worth it. > >-Curt > > > > From: Mitch Haley >To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List > >Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:3

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2014-07-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
z.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:36 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly? > > > Penfed will refi a 2013, 2014, or 2015 for $1.49% for 36 months, 2.24% for > 60 > > > > months. > > https://www.penfed.org/refinance-auto-loan/ &

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2014-07-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
From: Mitch Haley To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly? Penfed will refi a 2013, 2014, or 2015 for $1.49% for 36 months, 2.24% for 60 months. https://www.penfed.org/refinance

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2014-07-29 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
rt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly? Somebody check me on this one... I found an online calculator that says if I finance $25,000 at 5.8% the interest paid in the first 3 car payments is $357.27 If I th

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2014-07-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
.38 in interest that I wouldn't pay at the 0.0% rate right? So unless Ford gives me more than $1745.38 in incentives I'm better off taking the 0.0% interest. -Curt From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, July 29

Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
they do a lot of that. I need to run some numbers and see if that system with the $1500 is a better deal than 0.9% overall. -Curt From: Dan Penoff To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes List Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game

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2014-07-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Parts of the AlCan are still pretty rough. Expect to replace a windshield by the end of the trip. She is psycho, isn't she? Put the car on a barge or ship in Portland or Seattle and fly up. This is a daily thing around there. Seattle and Portland are the Sam's Club and Costco for Alaska. Dan

Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-28 Thread clay via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 7:04 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly? > > > > Lies, mischaracterizations, obfuscation and deceit. > > That is how cars are sold. > > SWMBA wants to drive the AlCan to get to her new abode. The korean sed

Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Have you considered the "Internet blast" approach? Pick out a number of dealers in the area online, give them the specs on the truck you want, and let them give you a quote. They're a lot more aggressive this way, as they know you're not screwing around. You

Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-28 Thread clay via Mercedes
Reply To: Curt Raymond > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly? > >> Used truck prices are stupid right now. 4 >years old you're looking at >> $20-24k, for >$4,000 more I can buy brand new. > > I read recently that what happened with sub prime mor

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2014-07-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The "buy it new and run it into the ground" can make sense if you're carrying the paper for 0% or paying cash. That's about the only way you can amortize the depreciation and break even or possibly come out ahead in my book. The wife's 2005 Mazda 6s will be ten years old next year. It's got 13

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2014-07-28 Thread clay via Mercedes
has a few but not that many. > > Curt > > > > From: Allan Streib via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:54 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly? > > > Curt Raymond

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2014-07-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
5 years. -Curt From: clay To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly? Lies, mischaracterizations, obfuscation and deceit. That is how cars are sold. SWMBA wants to drive the AlCan to get to her

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2014-07-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
If she's interested in a RAV4, would she drive a RENDEZVOUS CXL AWD? 10 year olds typically go for less than 5k around here with as new leather interiors. http://flint.craigslist.org/cto/4589318799.html Or, how about a Saab Trailblazer? http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/4529025017.html http://

Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-28 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
So is this effort your part in getting her to be gone? --R On 7/28/14 7:04 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: Lies, mischaracterizations, obfuscation and deceit. That is how cars are sold. SWMBA wants to drive the AlCan to get to her new abode. The korean sedan will not meet her needs, so she de

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2014-07-28 Thread clay via Mercedes
There is always September. The really new stuff will be arriving and these guys need to make room.They shuffle the old stuff to lesser dealers around the area (small town guys) or have to store it on some far off lot. It is not making them cash sitting on the tarmac. Or, you get the d'hea

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2014-07-28 Thread clay via Mercedes
Lies, mischaracterizations, obfuscation and deceit. That is how cars are sold. SWMBA wants to drive the AlCan to get to her new abode. The korean sedan will not meet her needs, so she decided a used Rav4 would. No research was done on her part and she blithely wanders into a few places she fo

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2014-07-27 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Original Message   From: OK Don via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 10:39 PM To: Kaleb C. Striplin; Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: OK Don Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly? >I read that also on some Internet news >site, so it has to be true!  ;-) ‎ On Sun,

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2014-07-27 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I read that also on some Internet news site, so it has to be true! ;-) On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Where the heck did you hear that? Nothing like that going on that I have > seen. Cash for clunkers did untold amounts of dama

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2014-07-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
nd via Mercedes > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 8:59 PM > To: Allan Streib; Mercedes Discussion List > Reply To: Curt Raymond > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly? > >> Used truck prices are stupid right now. 4 >years old you're looking at >

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2014-07-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
the Ford (and the Nissan > interestingly) have box frame which flexes less. There apparently is a reason > the F150 is the best selling truck in the US... > > -Curt > > > > From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List >

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2014-07-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
He was taking about new cars, can't get those from a private seller. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 27, 2014, at 8:54 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Curt Raymond via Mercedes writes: > >> They tried to tell us that when the 2015s come out (with the new >> aluminum body panels) that

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2014-07-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
As they say in the car business, you are in the new car business to be in the used car business. In other words, there are very little margins on new cars. A dealer may make a few hundred on a new car. They hope to get good trades to make the real money on. Plus there is the service business and

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2014-07-27 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Original Message   From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 8:59 PM To: Allan Streib; Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Curt Raymond Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly? >Used truck prices are stupid right now. 4 >years old you're looking at &g

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2014-07-27 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
IIRC, the V8 has more torque, which is what a truck needs. The STX is a step up from the base - I got the base short cab, long bed, with added electric windows and locks and running boards. I did have to order it - there were none that met my specs in OK. On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Curt Ray

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2014-07-27 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
; -Curt > > > > From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:51 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly? > > > ‎Original Message > From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes &g

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2014-07-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
h flexes less. There apparently is a reason the F150 is the best selling truck in the US... -Curt From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly? ‎Original

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2014-07-27 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
; > From: Allan Streib via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:54 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly? > > > Curt Raymond via Mercedes writes: > > > They tried to tell us th

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2014-07-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
n I bought my Dakota there were a bunch of used trucks, same when I bought my Ranger. Now every dealership has a few but not that many. Curt From: Allan Streib via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ]

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2014-07-27 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
p the > highway I think that was just a factor of too high gears for the job. It > wasn't really working that hard. > > -Curt > > > > From: Dwight Giles > To: Curt Raymond > Cc: Mercedes Discussion List > Sent: Sunday, J

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2014-07-27 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Curt Raymond via Mercedes writes: > They tried to tell us that when the 2015s come out (with the new > aluminum body panels) that the 2014s will get scarce and they'll stop > the incentives. That seems to not make sense to me, surely the 2014s > get cheaper. This is my first time looking at new a

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2014-07-27 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Original Message   From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 8:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Curt Raymond Subject: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly? >So I said $25,000. They came back with >$28,000. ‎ $28000 would keep the Ranger on the road for

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2014-07-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
he job. It wasn't really working that hard. -Curt From: Dwight Giles To: Curt Raymond Cc: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly? Curt  keep your BS detector turned on. My b

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2014-07-27 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Curt keep your BS detector turned on. My brother spent 30 years in car business. It is a game. Don't budge. It is near end of month & they need to meet quota. When they calln tell them you have checked & can no longer offer 25 but you could see paying 23. That will keep them on their toes. You'd

[MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?

2014-07-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Trip #3 to try out new trucks took us to a Mazda dealership that had a 2010 Chevy Silverado and 2010 Ford 150. We decided we liked the Ford better but it was a crew cab (and $28k). We don't need a crew cab full size so we decided to go over to the Ford dealer who actually persuaded us that it m