Re: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread Doug Brewer
On Nov 11, 2006, at 11:12 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Doug Brewer: > > As list owner and admin of the PDML, do you accept this kind of > consistently rude, obnoxious behavior from your subscribers? I have > long since consigned anything that JCO posts to the bit bucket, but I > was reviewing th

Re: Longevity in *istD internal battery

2006-11-11 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 12/11/06, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > Yesterday when I was changing batteries for my *istD and turned it on > thereafter it displayed the initial welcome screen. All my settings were > gone. I would say it is a sign that internal battery that holds camera's > memory is ab

Re: Longevity in *istD internal battery

2006-11-11 Thread John Francis
Good plan. I should probably change mine, too. On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 01:03:57AM -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote: > I don't know, but I'm going to change the battery. > Paul > On Nov 11, 2006, at 11:59 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > Yesterday when I was changing batteries for my *istD

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm sorry, but this is unnecessary provocation. On Nov 11, 2006, at 11:11 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > What kind of convoluted double-speak is that?! > > Shel > > > JCO wrote: > >> I am saying your wrong in the concept >> of that reply post of yours. Someone >> may think they just disagree but

Re: Longevity in *istD internal battery

2006-11-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
I don't know, but I'm going to change the battery. Paul On Nov 11, 2006, at 11:59 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Hi! > > Yesterday when I was changing batteries for my *istD and turned it on > thereafter it displayed the initial welcome screen. All my settings > were > gone. I would say it is a sig

Re: Longevity in *istD internal battery

2006-11-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Sounds about right, based on other cameras/devices I have had with these kinds of batteries. Godfrey On Nov 11, 2006, at 8:59 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Yesterday when I was changing batteries for my *istD and turned it on > thereafter it displayed the initial welcome screen. All my settings

Longevity in *istD internal battery

2006-11-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Yesterday when I was changing batteries for my *istD and turned it on thereafter it displayed the initial welcome screen. All my settings were gone. I would say it is a sign that internal battery that holds camera's memory is about to expire. My camera is roughly 2 years old. So, those of

Re: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread Vic MacBournie
You know what guys let's just get over it and move on. We are getting nowhere here. JCO how about you agree to drop the whole thing and whoever is attacking you please drop it and lets take up our bandwidth talking about all the exciting Pentax things coming down the pipe Vic On 11-No

Re: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread David Weiss
Ken, I made a similar post several weeks ago where I compared JCO's tormentors to boys poking a bear with at stick. They are a part of the problem. I think we all would behave poorly if publicly attacked, but also agree that JCO should be more civil, especially with his word choices. He does

RE: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Civil?Your language is less than civil. Your attitude is condescending, you're rude and antagonistic, your tone hostile. What was the "personal attack" that you suffered? Please be specific. You probably should be thrown off the list, although, as an advocate of free speech, I will defend y

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
What kind of convoluted double-speak is that?! Shel JCO wrote: > I am saying your wrong in the concept > of that reply post of yours. Someone > may think they just disagree but if their concept > is invalid to my contention than thats another > matter altogether and I won't just "let it d

Re: Ebay Vivitar Series One 28mm F1.9 M42 $232?

2006-11-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
Super lens. I lusted for one of these back in the seventies. I think there's a K-mount version as well. Paul On Nov 11, 2006, at 9:51 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > > M42 prices just continue to rise& rise. Due to good adaptability to > many > DSLRS I would guess. This is the lens I raved about

Ebay Vivitar Series One 28mm F1.9 M42 $232?

2006-11-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
M42 prices just continue to rise& rise. Due to good adaptability to many DSLRS I would guess. This is the lens I raved about a few years ago but I only paid $99 for mine. Im not so enthusiastic at this kind of price. Look at this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160048284565

Re: *istD max CF Card Size

2006-11-11 Thread Thibouille
Shel, Microdrive are typically of lower cost for the same capacity as a "normal" flash based CF card. They are in fact hard disk drives and as such are more prone to problems (in theory at least). Also, my Hitachi 4GB one (Seagate ones are supposed to be much faster) are a bit slow... when checking

Re: Waiting for a FA 50mm f/2.8 Macro not for DFA - Thibouille

2006-11-11 Thread Thibouille
No problem, I perfectly understand. Justwanted to make sure that you indeed know that DFA do match any K camera... MX/KX etc. included. Regards, -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.n

Re: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread Cotty
Storm in a teacup. I'd be surprised if Doug ever banned anyone from the PDML, but what do I know, I'm only a yungun. Maybe needs a warning over his language but I see no point in ostracism. .02 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cott

Re: For people who are bored with the PDML

2006-11-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Cann you invite JCO to join that club? On 11/11/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.corrugated-iron-club.info/ > > -- > Regards, > Bob > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDM

free photoshop actions

2006-11-11 Thread Markus Maurer
The link to these free photoshop actions is in german but may still be helpful for some... http://www.smart-script.de/ greetings Markus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Some PUG comments 3 of 3

2006-11-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
I found this shot very intriguing as well. The highlight burst on the left combined with the expansive view and unusual composition works very well for me. Paul On Nov 11, 2006, at 7:01 PM, Gianfranco Irlanda wrote: > Jostein Øksne wrote: >> "Villa Maiuri - Interior" by Gianfranco Irlanda >> >

Re: Waiting for a FA 50mm f/2.8 Macro, not DFA..

2006-11-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
No problem, Ezio. I was simply curious as to why you wouldn't want a later and supposedly better performer. But if you just happen to like that one and are willing to wait, I understand ... :-) Godfrey On Nov 11, 2006, at 4:43 PM, Eziocapo wrote: > Hello dear Godfrey, > > sorry if my words a

Waiting for a FA 50mm f/2.8 Macro, not DFA..

2006-11-11 Thread Eziocapo
Hello dear Godfrey, sorry if my words aren't so clear (I apologize, but the english isn't my native language); to be paranoid, to me, means to love an item (or a woman), also knowing this isn't the best thing that the market (or the world) can offers. I love this lens since I owned it for a short

Re: Batteries for Pentax (was Best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
NiMH and Li-Ion batteries do not have the "memory" characteristics of NiCad batteries. Godfrey On Nov 11, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > That's true. I don't know if this applies to Nimh batteries, but > nicads can be "trained' to discharge faster. When my son and I raced > electri

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 11, 2006, at 11:16 AM, John Celio wrote: >> Every camera manufacturer wants that because it nets them more profit >> in accessory sales. That doesn't mean the battery is proprietary ... >> Pentax buys it from the same source that other brands buy it from. > > And considering the number of b

Re: Some PUG comments 3 of 3

2006-11-11 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Jostein Øksne wrote: > "Villa Maiuri - Interior" by Gianfranco Irlanda > > There's something special about this one. It's so anti every rule of > composition with the huge door and wall in the middle, and the two > exits on either side. Still it works. Very intriguing. My favourite > this month. A

Re: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread Jack Davis
Yes, Paul. If only a few listers would just vow to be less predatory. Jack --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good post, Ken. As I said in an earlier post, JCO's buttons are being > > pushed. Yes, he doesn't know how to settle a disagreement. But > perhaps we should allow him to

AW: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread Markus Maurer
I share your opinion Ken. I hope to see some more helpful and interesting Pentax related messages and photos coming soon here in this theatre ;-) Greetings Markus -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von K.Takeshita Gesendet: Samstag, 11. Nov

Re: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread K.Takeshita
On 11/11/06 5:49 PM, "J. C. O'Connell", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As far as the DSLRS go, I think the K100 is a steal > and great deal for the price but I am disappointed > in Pentax overall rescinding their long long time > stance on backwards compatablity when possible > and on the K10D , for

Re: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread DagT
And that is a perfectly understandable view. I skipped 15 years of Pentax development because I hated the plastic AF cameras and lenses and my plan was to switch brand when the LX died. It never did, and then the Limited lenses and the *istD came. So I have to conclude that I don´t necessar

Re: istD and that pesky battery issue question

2006-11-11 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks for thr reply John No grip i'm afraid. I quess a call to Penatx Canada on Monday is warranted. I was hoping some one had a similar problem and solution. Maybe i'll sell it to a Canon owner.:-) Dave Quoting John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > How about the grip? Does that have a s

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Huh? I never specifically stated primes or zooms because it doesnt matter, they both have the same characteristics, the DOF is the same on a 35mm prime as it is on a 35mm end of a zoom. I later stated his testing method was not as good as using a zoom because you cant make a quick comparison and s

No one has personl email anymore:was list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread David J Brooks
Like the subject says. Isn;t this perfect for private emails to settle things like this, with out bothering the rest of use who can't fiqure out how to filter SHIT. DAVE Quoting "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > HIS post was abusive and was the first strike, > not mine. Mine was retal

RE: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Thanks for the kind words, I havent been posting much as of late because I have been involved much more with LF in the last few years and I dont think its appropriate to post a lot of stuff about that here. As far as the DSLRS go, I think the K100 is a steal and great deal for the price but I am

Re: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread K.Takeshita
On 11/11/06 1:53 PM, "Tom C", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree. I've had plenty of leeway for him in the past and I've even > defended his right to make his points. Well, with the talks of banning him and so forth, I believe you good folks are going too far and too selfish. Give him a break.

Re: How to do arguing

2006-11-11 Thread David J Brooks
I could be arguing in my spare time. D Quoting Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Somewhat spoiled by the typo: > > http://www.compedit.com/raskin1.htm > > The moral is this: however right you may think you are, it usually > makes sense when confronted with intransigence to say "All right, have > it y

Re: Batteries for Pentax (was Best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/11/11 Sat PM 06:03:45 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: Batteries for Pentax (was Best SD card for K10D) > > So, what we want is a 7.4 volt battery (for the K10D) with the largest mah > that works in the physical size

Re: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good post, Ken. As I said in an earlier post, JCO's buttons are being pushed. Yes, he doesn't know how to settle a disagreement. But perhaps we should allow him to express his views without aggressive challenges. By the way, i tend to agree that longer lenses are easier to focus. It's at le

Re: *istD max CF Card Size

2006-11-11 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Nov 11, 2006 at 11:13:19AM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > What's the deal with Type 1 and Type 2 CF cards? My recollection is that > one is somewhat larger in some dimension than the other. If that's the > case, is there any problem or caution using one or the other in the istD? > > Bruc

Re: Update on Boz's site

2006-11-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
No, I didn't know that Boz had gone K digital. Thanks for the update. Paul On Nov 11, 2006, at 4:46 PM, John Whittingham wrote: > I see Boz has updated his website with K digital bodies, apologies > if it's > old news. > > John > > > >

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-11 Thread David Savage
Nice try Paul. Dave :-) On 11/12/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, it's hopeless. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-11 Thread David Savage
Yeah he did. You asked: "OK, I challenge the entire list on the matter. Does anyone here actually find or believe that wider lenses are just as easy to focus as 3X longer lenses at the same fstop?" and then you said: "Simple proof is with zooms, ..." Bill took up your "challenge" & went for th

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-11 Thread Christian
J. C. O'Connell wrote: > Are you crazy? Yes, John, I'M crazy -- Christian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Update on Boz's site

2006-11-11 Thread John Whittingham
I see Boz has updated his website with K digital bodies, apologies if it's old news. John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain c

RE: Good to be back (was best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread John Whittingham
Things are looking up.just came across a CS-205 I didn't know I had in a camera bag I was using with the late MZ-6, I'm better prepared than I thought John -- Original Message --- From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Sat, 11 N

RE: Good to be back (was best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread John Whittingham
Thanks Shel That's really very good, I'm impressed. No 18-55 kit lens for me then! Best, John -- Original Message --- From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:42:24 -0800 Subject: RE: Good to be back (was best SD card

For people who are bored with the PDML

2006-11-11 Thread Bob W
http://www.corrugated-iron-club.info/ -- Regards, Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
Okay, it's hopeless. On Nov 11, 2006, at 4:02 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > NO. It's not normal to agree to disagree when the concept > of your post is in error to what I am stating. You claimed that > different > people have different finders, eyesight, etc. so the > results will be different and

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
NO. It's not normal to agree to disagree when the concept of your post is in error to what I am stating. You claimed that different people have different finders, eyesight, etc. so the results will be different and what I am stating and have been stating is that the lenses themselves are different

Re: Apple Digital Camera RAW update now available

2006-11-11 Thread Adam Maas
The DS has been unavailable new since last fall, barring a bit of stock remaining at retailers. It was replaced by the DS2 for a short while and that wasn't available very long at all. The DL/DL2 were only replaced in late July/Early August by the k100D and K110D and many retailers and the regi

Re: *istD max CF Card Size

2006-11-11 Thread Adam Maas
Type II cards are thicker. The D takes type II cards (All Microdrives are Type II). -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: > What's the deal with Type 1 and Type 2 CF cards? My recollection is that > one is somewhat larger in some dimension than the other. If that's the > case, is there any problem or c

How to do arguing

2006-11-11 Thread Bob W
Somewhat spoiled by the typo: http://www.compedit.com/raskin1.htm The moral is this: however right you may think you are, it usually makes sense when confronted with intransigence to say "All right, have it your way - you heard a seal bark", and continue smug in the knowledge of your own superior

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS

2006-11-11 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006, John Francis wrote: > On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 08:40:51PM +, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: >> >> What these in particular do have is a 1.5x magnification, . . . > > They don't, you know. Ooops! Thanks John. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
No one is missing your point. How could they possibly miss it? You've stated it numerous times. When that happens, normal people say something like: "We'll just have to agree to disagree, and then they let it go. You never, ever let it go. At some point you start using profanity to undersco

RE: PESO - Another Day

2006-11-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
I think I could do well at the telly, if Boris was the photographer ;-) I liked the distinguished look the gave me. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: 10. november 2006 09:20 To

Re: Apple Digital Camera RAW update now available

2006-11-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's probably sold out. The K110 is the replacement. Paul On Nov 11, 2006, at 3:22 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Sometime in the last two weeks the DL seems to have disappeared > from the > Pentax USA (www.pentaximaging.com) web site. > > Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail) wrote: >> Until a few weeks ago, bo

RE: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
thats easy for you to say, you werent the one personally attacked (unprovoked) in the middle of a civil technical discussion for no reason. JCO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:53 PM To: pdml@pdml.n

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Your still missing my point, What I am/was stating is it's the differences in the lenses depth of field and it does not matter all these other things/factors. For any given situation ( other than specialty finders designed specifically for wide angles or telephotos which I definately stated right i

Re: istD and that pesky battery issue question

2006-11-11 Thread Don Williams
I've had the same happen to me once in a while. The battery indicator shows half or even empty. Then all of a sudden it's okay again. This usually happens when I switch on with batteries that have been in the camera a while. I now take this as a sign that fresh ones will be needed soon. But eve

Re: Apple Digital Camera RAW update now available

2006-11-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Sometime in the last two weeks the DL seems to have disappeared from the Pentax USA (www.pentaximaging.com) web site. Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail) wrote: > Until a few weeks ago, both DS and DL were still listed on the French > Pentax site. Since then, the K10D entered the site, and only the DS >

RE: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Never is but I can give you a hint, stick with the subject matter and dont issue unprovoked personal attacks and these things wont happen. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 2:57 PM To: Pen

RE: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Thats right get rid of the person who doesnt stand for unprovoked personal attacks instead of the person who commits them. Makes a lot of sense. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 2:41 PM To

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Well, who says that zooms are not easier to focus at the long end and who says that using a zoom to prove that longer lenses are easier to focus than shorter lenses at the same f-stop is not a valid scientific way to prove it? And WHY not??? jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [

RE: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
What's the matter, you dont like being corrected or challanged? I am sorry but I do not agree with you and others on some matters and statements. I am not going to just sit there and say nothing and let weak or flawed counter arguments go unchalleged. Thats why the posts add up. I am not one to get

RE: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Screw you, you are the one who got abusive by saying that my 30 yrs of experience and knowledge are "suspect" because I dont prove it by posting photos he PUG. Thats essentially saying I am a just a B.S. liar about everything I post using "nice" language and convoluted logic. jco -Original Mes

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Are you crazy? My entire point of this thread is that at a given f-stop wide angles are harder to focus than telephotos ( longer lenses ). The zoom example is a near perfect PROOF that as the focal length gets longer and all else is held equal (like f-stop and lens quality ), the focussing gets eas

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Your testing technique is just as important as doing a test in the first place. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:29 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Using a Super Tak w/ ist

RE: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
By saying all my posts & experience were "suspect" since I dont post to the PUG is either abusive or outright stupid. Take your pick. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 1:04 PM To: Pentax-Di

Re: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
No, I guess there's no easy answer. Paul On Nov 11, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > The thing is, Paul, sooner or later JCO jumps into conversations and > threads and becomes abusive and begins to use foul language. Are you > suggesting that when he jumps into a thread, as he did when I

RE: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
If you dont consider "first strikes" as important considerations in arguments, you are the one with the arrested mental development. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:51 PM To: Pentax-Disc

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
We were not arguing slow lenses on DSLRS we were arguing the relative difficulty of slow wide angles vs slow telephotos on ANY SLR camera finder, ( At least thats what I was arguing). I am stating that because that difference is caused by the difference in properties of the lenses, not the finders.

Re: Batteries for Pentax (was Best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
That's true. I don't know if this applies to Nimh batteries, but nicads can be "trained' to discharge faster. When my son and I raced electric radio control cars, I would train the nicads by discharging them on a resistor pack with just 1/2 an ohm resistance. I had some 1800 mAh C batteries

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Dont you guys know the definition of a zoom lens? Its a lens that does not change focus as you change the focal length. Yes there are plenty of el crapo zoom lenses out there that dont hold focus ( or improperly aligned good ones ), but I know for a fact that many DO hold focus throughout the zoom

Re: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
You might be right. Although JCO only seems to lose it when someone engages him specifically in a continuing debate. Paul On Nov 11, 2006, at 12:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > I disagree, Paul. A list owner's responsibility is to manage the > list, deal with technical issues of subscription an

RE: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
NOPE. No one ever stated that they ever found any zoom lenses that werent easier to focus on the long end. Thats why I asked it again. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:33 PM To: Pentax-

RE: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Im the bully? Who demanding me to produce 30 yrs worth of photos to prove something that cant be proved with a photo? Dont blame me for others reckless requests. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Saturday, November 11,

RE: Good to be back (was best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi, I've been using a K18/3.5 for some time now on the istDS. I like it quite a bit, although there are a few K lenses that are a bit sharper. But absolute sharpness isn't everything, at least for me. Tonal rendition, ease of use, size, are all considerations. Here's a shot I recently posted u

Re: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Nov 11, 2006, at 12:48 PM, William Robb wrote: > > The problem is more easily solved by the one than by the many. > John needs to learn civil discourse and use it rather than abusive > bullying. > That would certainly be the best solution, but I'm not sure it's possible. Paul -- PDML Pent

RE: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Im not the one going around asking 30 yr experienced photographers to post photos to prove things that cant be proved with a photo. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:21 PM To: Pentax-Dis

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Assuming for a moment that JCO is correct in his generalization, one of the things he's failing to consider is the differences between people. Some have better eyesight, some wear glasses, some glasses are better suited to use with a camera, or even certain cameras, some people are color blind, an

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-11 Thread Peter Lacus
John Celio wrote: > And considering the number of batteries out there with the exact same form > factor (power contacts aside) as the one Pentax is using in the K10D (Canon, > Nikon, and KonicaMinolta have all used it, as well as others), I want to > know who makes and holds the patents for the

Re: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread Tom C
Any one of us can get out of hand on occasion. Shel, even you don't hold a candle to JCO. :-) After putting up with the BS for a month now, there's two basic options we can take. 1. Ban him, which gets rid of him for good (I don't see at this point where that would be a loss). Of course he ca

Re: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I think Bill Robb's post pretty well nails the situation. The question is what, if anything, should be done with JCO. I'm not really in favor of banning individuals from this group (heck, I may be next - I can sometimes be annoying or a PITA - my wife used to call me Shel Bellicose and even went

Re: Apple Digital Camera RAW update now available

2006-11-11 Thread Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail)
Until a few weeks ago, both DS and DL were still listed on the French Pentax site. Since then, the K10D entered the site, and only the DS disappeared. The DL is still there. Patrice Adam Maas a écrit : > Actually, they all are discontinued. The K100D and K110D are the current > models. > > -Ad

Re: Best SD card for K10D

2006-11-11 Thread John Celio
> Every camera manufacturer wants that because it nets them more profit > in accessory sales. That doesn't mean the battery is proprietary ... > Pentax buys it from the same source that other brands buy it from. And considering the number of batteries out there with the exact same form factor (po

Good to be back (was best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread John Whittingham
Jan, Godfrey, Shel, thanks for the kind words and invaluable advice. It's good to be back on the list again. I think I'll leave the spare battery and SD card until closer to the purchase time as is the concensus of opinion here. I've just found what I think is a remote control F, I used it with

Re: *istD max CF Card Size

2006-11-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
What's the deal with Type 1 and Type 2 CF cards? My recollection is that one is somewhat larger in some dimension than the other. If that's the case, is there any problem or caution using one or the other in the istD? Bruce, do you find an advantage using a micro drive over a regular CF card? S

Re: *istD max CF Card Size

2006-11-11 Thread Bruce Dayton
I run both a 4 gb and 6 gb microdrive in my *istD without any issues. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, November 11, 2006, 2:48:38 AM, you wrote: T> My 4GB Microdrive works fine :) T> -- T> Thibault Massart aka Thibouille T> -- T> *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;

Re: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread Tom C
>Were I the list owner, I'd ban him permanently. > >William Robb > > I'm voting "Aye" with both hands raised. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread Tom C
I agree. I've had plenty of leeway for him in the past and I've even defended his right to make his points. I have now grown very very very tired of this rude and obnoxious behavior. I personally vote to kick his *** off the list. It'll free up space in my junkmail folder. Tom C. >From:

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
C'mon Christian, don't you know that a moving target is harder to hit? Shel > [Original Message] > From: Christian > J. C. O'Connell wrote: > > I say You're both wrong then. > > ANSWER MY QUESTION : > > Have you ever had a zoom lens that > > was not easier to focus accurately > > at the lo

Re: istD and that pesky battery issue question

2006-11-11 Thread John Francis
How about the grip? Does that have a set of batteries in it? I've found that I usually see this problem if I've got batteries loaded in both the grip and the camera, and one of the sets is less than fully charged. Taking out one of the sets of batteries makes the problem go away. On Sat, Nov 1

Re: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: list abuse > The thing is, Paul, sooner or later JCO jumps into conversations and > threads and becomes abusive and begins to use foul language. Are you > suggesting that when he jumps into a thread, as he did when I posted > my

Down the Deep Lanes

2006-11-11 Thread Bob W
Hi, I have posted glowing reviews before about the photographs and books of James Ravilious. His books are quite hard to find, but I have just received a copy of "Down the Deep Lanes", which is still in print and available from Amazon UK, so for anyone who is interested, but hasn't been able to fi

Re: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I have received a couple of messages from Paul on the same subject, one of which was fleshed out with some details and specifics. Shel > [Original Message] > From: William Robb > All that is really necessary is for John to use civil language rather > than dropping into abusive bully mode as

Re: Batteries for Pentax (was Best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
OK. So it seems to be that the best approach is to stick with a known brand of good quality, and use the highest mah that can be found. Great - you and Adam have answered my questions just fine. Thanks! Shel > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > You shouldn't use a battery with h

Re: Using a Super Tak w/ istDS- A challange to the list?

2006-11-11 Thread Christian
J. C. O'Connell wrote: > I say You're both wrong then. ANSWER MY QUESTION : > Have you ever had a zoom lens that > was not easier to focus accurately > at the long end compared to the wide > end? H, I thought the question was about 35mm lenses... or was it 105mm? Now I have to use a zoom?

RE: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
In what way was "his" post abusive? Who's post was that? Can you provide an example of the abuse - perhaps quote the portion that was abusive? Shel > [Original Message] > From: J. C. O'Connell > HIS post was abusive and was the first strike, > not mine. Mine was retalitory. If you dont like

Re: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
The thing is, Paul, sooner or later JCO jumps into conversations and threads and becomes abusive and begins to use foul language. Are you suggesting that when he jumps into a thread, as he did when I posted my observations about focusing, that even if he says nothing outrageous he be ignored - IOW

Re: list abuse

2006-11-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
AFAIK, he's still with Pentax ;-)) Shel > [Original Message] > From: K.Takeshita > "Shel Belinkoff" wrote: > > > It wasn't long ago that someone here wished that there could have been an > > engineer from Pentax here to answer a few questions. Well, it seems there > > was, but he went away

Re: Batteries for Pentax (was Best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
You shouldn't use a battery with higher or lower rated voltage, and I suspect that there will be none available. Higher voltages can cause overheating, lower voltages might not provide the potential to drive the camera systems. Actual voltage delivered will vary by some no matter what, anyw

Re: Batteries for Pentax (was Best SD card for K10D)

2006-11-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
So, what we want is a 7.4 volt battery (for the K10D) with the largest mah that works in the physical size and form that will fit the camera. OK, I understand that. Now, what happens if one uses a battery with greater or lesser voltage? I'm sure there's a point at which the bats won't work prope

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