Re: PUG Stuff: Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

MAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 5:51 AM Subject: RE: PUG Stuff: Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts? > > I suggest you learn to live within the limitations of the PUG > > for submissions to it, and put a link within y

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

On Sunday, February 3, 2002, at 04:00 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > If it's unusuable, it also doesnt communicate the art. I don't believe this to be the case at all. Very little of my work has lost what I like about it when reduced to web size. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discus

RE: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

ary 03, 2002 4:41 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts? > > > Okay, Peir 2 is acceptable for web viewing, Peir 1 would be nice to print > from, at least up to about 8 x10. What's your point? You certainly aren't >

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Sid Barras wrote: > I suppose this is going over my head when we begin to talk about jpeg > compression, but is my file size is 74k when closed, and stored on the > server, does it suddenly take up more space on the server when it is open? The important size is the size o

RE: 1000ppi Scan (WAS: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?)]

Hi Shel: I just had a look at it in IE6, and at the default size (69.2%) the image looked grainy. At 100% the image smoothed out considerably. The settings reported are: Resolution 100x100dpi No compression Size 355.3 x 239 mm (Using my standard 256-colour screen) Pixellation of the curves of

Re: A PUG Compromise (Was Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?)

On Sun, 03 Feb 2002 11:05:11 -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote: Hi Paul The PUG submission page has the following: Maximum file size is 75kb. Maximum image dimension is 600 pixels on the longest side. Oversized images will be resized. You can submit a square image 600 x 600 as long as it is under

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts? > > One of the other reasons for smaller sized scans in the PUG is the very > > real problem of image theft on the web -- if the image is small

1000ppi Scan (WAS: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?)]

OK, here it is. A straight 1000ppi scan made on a Nikon Coolscan 4000 scanner, both uncompressed and ZIPped. The image was scanned on automatic, so there was no manipulation of it at all. I trimmed the black border for downloading purposes and slightly adjusted the gamma for this presentation.

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

I didn't think of that, but IAC, I want people to see the whole picture, so they can see how all the tones are rendered. Also, people with large monitors might be able to see the who picture, which I think is helpful. However, I'm going to put up a zipped version as well, which cuts the file siz

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

Shel, wouldn't it suffice to crop a central portion of the scan showing some nice detail at post these at 1:1, that would make it less than 1MB ? All the photo-review-test servers are doing it this way. 2) Why the bigger seems mushy - are you sure you are looking at it at 1:1 - 100% magnification

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 13:00:18 -0500, Aaron Reynolds wrote: > Does the bmp format hold colour profile information? tiff does, that's > why we prefer it over here for incoming print work. No. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://ww

Re: A PUG Compromise (Was Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?)

On Sunday, February 3, 2002, at 11:41 AM, Steve Larson wrote: > I`m in. Why not an even 100K. You can`t really blow up a 100K image > anyway with any kind of results, and it would load fast enough on a 56K > modem. It would be a step into the 21st century. Provided this will not cause a proble

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

On Sunday, February 3, 2002, at 09:36 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > I opened a tiff and then saved it as a bmp. The bmp was the same size > on disk > as the tiff. The only possible downside is that it's windows specific, > whereas > tiff is a more universal format. Does the bmp format hold colo

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

On Saturday, February 2, 2002, at 10:53 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > I strongly disagree. 600 pixel max is even less than > VGA resolution (640 by 480 ) which went out of style > about 10 YEARS ago. Well, my three year old laptop has a max screen res of 800x600 on its 12" screen. I use it for

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

Shel, Very nice scans. I've been lusting for that scanner since they hit the shelves. I've read some really good reviews of it. I've been seriously considering acquiring one of them to archive my negs to CD-ROM, and from what I have read, it's probably the best available scanner for the price r

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

Adelheid, I certainly appreciate all the work you are doing to create the PUG. The large number of images every month are a credit to it's popularity and the value it adds to this discussion group. I would appreciate knowing what it was about Sid's image that might have caused it to be resiz

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

Jan van Wijk wrote: > On Sat, 02 Feb 2002 20:08:19 -0800, Sid Barras wrote: > > > > >< >Didn't you say that you sent 75K? > >Perhaps this accounts for your artifacts.>> > > > >I suppose this is going over my head when we begin to talk about jpeg > >compression, but is my file size is 74k when cl

RE: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

ginal Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Sonntag, 3. Februar 2002 15:15 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts? > > >Dear PUG meister, > >Sid sent me a copy

Re: Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

Hi Shel.I too am new to this digital and PS but i think you are correct in saying that saving or saveing as,will result in poorer quality images.I do however use the save to web option when i send horse show orginazers some pictures for their web sites and when i open them on their site ,th

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

OTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 7:29 PM > Subject: Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts? > > > Your jpeg for the PUG should be 75K stored and closed. When open, it will > be > > around 700K. If you size your file to 75K open, you're seriou

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

And a lot of people don't *want* to have higher resolution versions of their images available on the web. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Problem is, lots of us are drinking thru a very narrow straw. > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > ><< I vote for larger picture dimentions and filesizes. > It's 2002 fo

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

At 02:52 3-2-2002 -0500, annsan wrote: >I'm most bothered by images that are so big >that I cant see the >whole picture on my monitor. I have it set at 800 x 640 >because it is better >for my eyes. Every thing in large font too. > >It is a rather elitist attitude to just make things work for >onl

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

On Sat, 02 Feb 2002 20:08:19 -0800, Sid Barras wrote: > >Perhaps this accounts for your artifacts.>> > >I suppose this is going over my head when we begin to talk about jpeg >compression, but is my file size is 74k when closed, and stored on the >server, doe

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

> Hi Paul, > I`ve been saving scans as bmp`s. Is saving as a tiff better? > Steve Larson > Redondo Beach, California > - Original Message - > From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 200

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

Dear PUG meister, Sid sent me a copy of his original 73K jpg as he submitted to the PUG. It sure is different from the 26K jpg on display in the gallery. The dimensions on the original pix are 600 tall by 400+ pixels. There was a bit of a ragged edge on the left side, but no real problem. Are we

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

Hi Paul, I`ve been saving scans as bmp`s. Is saving as a tiff better? Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 7:29 PM Subject: Re: Why do my pho

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

Nice scans, Shel. But as you point out, the scanner's resolution isn't a factor when you're resizing for the web. Everything on the web is 72ppi. Of course, the 4000 ppi will print far better at 11 x14 than the 1000 ppi, and it will look a bit better than the 2800 ppi scan. I scan most of my image

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

"J. C. O'Connell" wrote: > > > > IIt depends on the SCREEN RESOLUTION being used to display > the graphic. I use 1280X960 and can view an entire image > up to that size without scrolling. What screen resolution > are you using BTW?? > I'm using 1280 x 960, so the 72 ppi PUG images are about the

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts? > > > > > > With conventional monitors, the PUG pictures won't get better by going > > to higher res, they'll just get bigger. > > Youve got to be kidding : Bullshit!

Re[2]: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

JCO, Amen to that. It is quite common for me to pick an image for the PUG and then reject it once it is sized down - too much loss of detail. Perhaps we could suggest 2 sizes, 1 for slow connections and 1 for fast connections. We would each submit our current size and 1 more at a larger size.

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > JCO, > > Problem is, lots of us are drinking thru a very narrow straw. > > Regards, Bob S. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << I vote for larger picture dimentions and filesizes. > It's 2002 for christs sake, were using 1992 size > images. > > JCO >> > - IF

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

"J. C. O'Connell" wrote: > > > Youve got to be kidding : Bullshit! ( pardon my language) > The more image pixels, the higher the resolution of the total image. Yes, but you can only display so many on a monitor. For printing, hi-res is a benefit. For viewing on a given monitor, more pixels only

RE: PUG Stuff: Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

> I suggest you learn to live within the limitations of the PUG > for submissions to it, and put a link within your submission to > take the viewer to a larger size image on a different server if > you think the image merits it. > > William Robb Great Idea, a link will do the trick. But I dont r

PUG Stuff: Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

limitations of the PUG for submissions to it, and put a link within your submission to take the viewer to a larger size image on a different server if you think the image merits it. William Robb - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: Why do my photos appear

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

Sid - Re the thumbnails - Several have pointed out that Netscape 6.0 had some problems. I have 4.6 and all the thumbs show. What I don't know is why several folk said MY thumbnail was the ONLY one to show on their browser. I'm using Epson Twain and Photo Deluxe 4.0 rather than photoshop 5.0. I sc

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

Sid, I may have this wrong, as I'm not a techie, but I believe different apps can display the same jpeg slightly differently--Photoshop can display an image quite differently than any other image viewer on you machine is likely to, depending on how your preferences are set. Also, on a mac, the si

Re: Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

Hi Sid ... I'm new to scanning and Photoshop, and far be it from me to "answer" your questions, but I do have a question or two and a comment. First, what do you mean when you say your file is "closed and stored on the server"? How does one close a JPEG file? Someone once commented that saving

Why do my photos appear in PUG full of artifacts?

Hi all, I've started a new chain with this letter because I think it important for some of us who may be confused with the rules regarding PUG submissions. I started the older chain of conversation with this (condensed): <> Bob S., in his comment mentioned something important: <> I suppose