[Texascavers] new AMCS CDs

2008-01-14 Thread Mixon Bill
I will have at the UT Grotto meeting Wednesday night for their first public sale two new CDs available from the Association for Mexican Cave Studies. These CDs contain PDFs made from page scans of things that were previously available on paper but are out of print or selling slowly at the h

[Texascavers] photos from the January CBSP weekend

2008-01-14 Thread David Ochel
Hey Texas cavers, For those of you interested or even having been there, here are my pictures from last weekend at Colorado Bend State Park: http://lostgravity.smugmug.com/gallery/4160640 Cheers, David - Visit our website: h

Re: [ot_caving] wow!

2008-01-14 Thread Alex Sproul
>Now forgive me, but how are the instructions wrong? Well, Charles, though I think we've been here before, there are no instructions for how to get _digested_ OT, though there's a way to UNsubsribe from a digested membership. Should I have subscribed to < ot-digest-s

Re: [ot_caving] [OT] Re: anyone else here yet?

2008-01-14 Thread Alex Sproul
Absolutely! Kara, you are clearly feeling a lot better!  Glad to see it! I agree that this splitting of the list is silly and divisive and doomed to failure, but in the meantime, I don't want to miss any of the juicy bits! In case any of you Tejanos haven't n

wow!

2008-01-14 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Wow, we are up to 17 people already, and forgive me, but I didn't think we'd get over 10 in here! I actually had someone send the owner (ot-ow...@texascavers.com) an email asking to subscribe. Now forgive me, but how are the instructions wrong? Did I type them badly? Are they confusing to someo

Re: [ot_caving] [OT] Re: anyone else here yet?

2008-01-14 Thread Charles Goldsmith
I think the supermarkets should offer you an eco-friendly solution, they make tons off of us, they should help the environment by offering an alternative, even if its a few $0.01 more... I know IKEA offers eco friendly bags for less than a $. On 1/14/08, Kara Savvas wrote: > I totally understan

Re: [ot_caving] [OT] Re: anyone else here yet?

2008-01-14 Thread Kara Savvas
I totally understand. I think that is most people's objection. I wonder what would make it more convenient? A change in the way we think, or if there is actually something physical that would make it more convenient. My biggest pet peeve is that they just put one or two items in each bag! If I

Re: [ot_caving] [OT] Re: anyone else here yet?

2008-01-14 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Sorry Kara, and to answer the poll, I do not, it's a hassle and I know its no excuse, but it's not "convenient" which is what most people have problems with. I do ask for no sack when I'm picking things up most of the time, because its usually 1 or 2 items. Charles On 1/14/08, Kara Savvas wrote

[ot_caving] George, I'm on both lists!

2008-01-14 Thread cavers
I'm on both because I really like caves, and I really like Cavers and their conversation is lively and interesting. I don't agree with a lot of them , and I don't believe a lot of them, but I like listening to'em and reading'em. I hope Gil comes over here. I learned some interesting train stuff

[ot_caving] caver mommyhood

2008-01-14 Thread Kara Savvas
So, I'm going to have a baby late this summer. I am personally very excited about that... but as a caver, I'm starting to have fears. I'm starting to worry that I'm going to lose ground on whatever skills I have, and because I do plan to breastfeed for an extended time, that I will really miss o

[Texascavers] Re: OT Off topic time, all the time. Oh yeah, we talk about caves, too.

2008-01-14 Thread Kara Savvas
Please join in a lively discussion at o...@texascavers.com. If it is important to you, a caver, it is worthwhile to talk about. Like Caving, we're about the Journey, not the destination. Respect is key, so is participation. While I fear the divisive nature of this approach, I'm willing to give i

Re: [ot_caving] a Texas cave blog

2008-01-14 Thread Kara Savvas
http://360.yahoo.com/profile-5_RNwxg1erAi872DBDvnj4.c5c_D8Q--?cq=1 That is the easier link to David's Blog. Go David! I keep a blog, but I'm not very good at writting in a consistent manner, and I'm not terribly satisfied with some of the layout on my blog. You can check my blog out at http://w

Re: [ot_caving] [OT] Re: anyone else here yet?

2008-01-14 Thread Kara Savvas
Whew, I went back to work today and it took a lot out of me. (Thanks, Don, I know there are lots of folks who would have helped if they could) I don't really think the new angle on texascavers is going to work they shiny new way people think it will... I think squashing all the interesting bits

RE: [Texascavers] Thoughts on OT postings

2008-01-14 Thread George Veni
Scott, This will be my last post on the matter. I've commented far more than I wanted to. I agree that there have been some interesting OT conversations, but now that a list has been set up for them, those who enjoy them can subscribe and send/get them, as well as the regular texascaver.co

Re: [Texascavers] Thoughts on OT postings

2008-01-14 Thread Scott Nicholson
Just my two cents...probably won't matter too much except to me. :-) I was an active caver awhile back...not so active in the past several years due to family & career constraints. What I enjoy about cavetex is the radically dynamic nature of the conversations I read on the list. What makes t

[Texascavers] Bexar Grotto Meeting Tonight

2008-01-14 Thread Geary Schindel
FYI, The program will be: The Soudan Mine and Mars by E. Calvin Alexander, Jr., Ph.D. Dr. Alexander will discuss the evidence of the presence of liquids and the possible presence of microbial life on Mars using the Suadan Mine in northern Minnesota as an anolog. Dr. Alexander will also disc

Re: [ot_caving] [OT] Re: anyone else here yet?

2008-01-14 Thread quinta
You are late kid! Whats up Doc?

RE: [Texascavers] Thoughts on OT postings

2008-01-14 Thread George Veni
Louise, I think all that is required is common sense and not any strict authoritarian edicts. The rules say "cave related" so, for example: Plastic bags: Discussing new uses in caving is cave related. Discussing their molecular structure and mileage if converted to oil isn't. Global war

[ot_caving] Re: Thank you for attending!

2008-01-14 Thread Simon Newton
Can we keep this offtopic list well offtopic? This message was too on topic for this list. It's annoying to wade through all the on topic emails to find the off topic gems. :-) Simon - returning to lurk mode > -- Forwarded message -- > From: "Don Cooper" > To: o...@texascavers

[ot_caving] [OT] Re: anyone else here yet?

2008-01-14 Thread Simon Newton
So this is where all the cool people are. Simon -- Forwarded message -- From: Kara Savvas To: o...@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:54:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: anyone else here yet? I'm here... anyone else? Let's get this party start

Re: [Texascavers] Thoughts on OT postings

2008-01-14 Thread Charles Goldsmith
I'll throw out my two cents on this, and by no means do I think its the only way to do things, just my opinion as a list user :) Re-read http://texascavers.com/about.html I didn't come up with these, I inherited them as list owner from Mr. Bentley, but they give suggestions. Evolution talk in pa

Re: [ot_caving] Thank you for attending!

2008-01-14 Thread Charles Goldsmith
You're quite welcome Don, anything I can do to help :) Charles On 1/14/08, Don Cooper wrote: > > To all and any of you who have subscribed, willingly - to recieve off > topic, tangental and near-cave and caver related "spam" I salute you. > Here is a place where people have no authority to tell

[ot_caving] Thank you for attending!

2008-01-14 Thread Don Cooper
To all and any of you who have subscribed, willingly - to recieve off topic, tangental and near-cave and caver related "spam" I salute you. Here is a place where people have no authority to tell me what I can or cannot say. (as long as I say it politely) This is what freedom of speech is really abo

[NMCAVER] Southwestern Cavers

2008-01-14 Thread Carol Belski
Tomorrow, Jan 15, is the deadline for articles for the Jan-Feb issue of the Southwestern cavers. If you've done anything cave related since the winter tech, tell us about it! Carol ___ NMCAVER mailing list nmca...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman

[Texascavers] Lousie; heres my answer to your question

2008-01-14 Thread Nancy Weaver
I think I finally understand. Plastic bags and global warming are off topic, Describing why they are off topic is on topic. If I disagree with you it is off topic. If I agree with you, it is on topic. If you agree with me, it is really really on topic. And poking fun at inconsistencies i

[ot_caving] Contact Info

2008-01-14 Thread Don Cooper
I'm trying to contact Justin Shaw. Please help. -WaVy

Re: [Texascavers] A really Off Topic Post - This one's on caving

2008-01-14 Thread Don Cooper
Looking for shared transport to event. Internet access is uncertain at present. Please call. 512-592-9938 or if it has STILL not switched over - 972-814-2465 Armchair caver blowhard who never actually participates - WaVy On Jan 14, 2008 8:14 AM, Geary Schindel wrote: > Folks, > > > > This is

RE: [Texascavers] Thoughts on OT postings

2008-01-14 Thread Louise Power
George, I understand your point and as a newbie I, myself, was guilty of a certain amount of this (although I now try to respond directly rather than to the whole list most of the time). However, I would like to know what you consider cave related. I would think certain topics under global warm

RE: [Texascavers] Fw: Fw:Scanned & Re-scanned pics [CAVE RELATED]

2008-01-14 Thread Louise Power
Bill, This is a frequent problem with pics that are scanned at a low dpi. The minimum should be 300 dpi and they should be saved as TIFFs. TIFF is a lossless, high quality format; JPEG, on the other hand, can lose pixels every time you reproduce it. Rescanning a bad scan just adds insult to i

[ot_caving] a Texas cave blog

2008-01-14 Thread David Locklear
I have tried this before, but I will try again. I am starting a cave blog on a Yahoo site. Go to Yahoo 360 http://360.yahoo.com/ ( You may need a Yahoo account - I don't know ) and go down to the middle of the page where the search bar is. ( The word "Go" is in a Yellow box ) type

[Texascavers] a new cave blog

2008-01-14 Thread David Locklear
I have tried this before, but I will try again. I am starting a cave blog on a Yahoo site. Go to Yahoo 360 http://360.yahoo.com/ ( You may need a Yahoo account - I don't know ) and go down to the middle of the page where the search bar is. ( The word "Go" is in a Yellow box ) type

[Texascavers] cave blogs

2008-01-14 Thread David Locklear
Here is a blog on show caves. http://blog.showcaves.com There are over a hundred postings on this site. And here are just a few of the postings there: http://blog.showcaves.com/?m=200801 http://blog.showcaves.com/?m=200710 http://blog.showcaves.com/?m=200712 http:

[Texascavers] A really Off Topic Post - This one's on caving

2008-01-14 Thread Geary Schindel
Folks, This is to announce that we have a work and fun weekend scheduled for the Deep and Punkin property this weekend. It will start on Friday, January 18 and will go through Monday, January 21 (MLK day). If you are interested, there will be a Carta Valley MLK Day parade which you may either

Re: [ot_caving] anyone else here yet?

2008-01-14 Thread Charles Goldsmith
We have a total of 5 subscribers so far, I'm really surprised David isn't here yet :) On 1/13/08, Kara Savvas wrote: > I'm here... anyone else? Let's get this party started. > > Tell me something off topic :-) > > Here's one - a poll - > Does anyone try to use or regularly use canvas or reusable