Re: Artifacts Versioning Spec. Was: RFE for the war plugin

2004-07-07 Thread Brill Pappin
Sorry John, I've been away for a bit and just got back. I'm not too good with the Jelly script but I'll see what I can come up with and send it though the normal channels. Yes, I do have a day job :) which means that I don't have fixed amount of time to work this problem, particularly not being

RE: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-30 Thread Maczka Michal
-Original Message- From: Brill Pappin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:41 PM To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: RFE for the war plugin Michal Maczka wrote: Have you tried to do it with the war? Coulpe of times. With different result sas some

Re: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-30 Thread Brill Pappin
First, let me apologize to the list for being short yesterday, it was entirely born out of have to explain things 4 times and still getting negative feedback that didn't address the issue. Ryan Sonnek wrote: whoo now, i don't want to get involved, but i do want to let it be known that since

Re: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-30 Thread Dion Gillard
Send the patch in and lets talk it through. On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:38:22 -0400, Brill Pappin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, let me apologize to the list for being short yesterday, it was entirely born out of have to explain things 4 times and still getting negative feedback that didn't

Artifacts Versioning Spec. Was: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-30 Thread Brill Pappin
Ok, let me explain this one more time. What you are saying is indeed part of the servlet spec, and the container may actually read and care about what's in the WAR manifest, however code running in the application context doesn't know, and doesn't care. It doesn't care because for things to be

Re: Artifacts Versioning Spec. Was: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-30 Thread John Casey
Brill, I've been reading along, and I agree that you have a valid use case. However, this is all academic until you send in some sort of patch. I might even use this patch if it were sent in - but I don't have time to develop it myself. Sorry, but you're starting to put the cart before the horse

Re: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-29 Thread Brill Pappin
like any other dependency that you bundle into your war file). -Original Message- From: Brill Pappin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 2:21 PM To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: RFE for the war plugin To clarify; I'm not asking that the classes dir go away, I'm just

RE: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-29 Thread Matt Read
: Brill Pappin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 June 2004 13:38 To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: RFE for the war plugin Yes, I thought of doing that very thing :) however I then have problems with Eclipse as it doesn't understand multi-project builds, and you really want all the parts

RE: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-29 Thread Maczka Michal
-Original Message- From: Brill Pappin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:38 PM To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: RFE for the war plugin Yes, I thought of doing that very thing :) however I then have problems with Eclipse as it doesn't understand multi

Re: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-29 Thread Brill Pappin
Michal wrote: -Original Message- From: Brill Pappin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:38 PM To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: RFE for the war plugin Yes, I thought of doing that very thing :) however I then have problems with Eclipse as it doesn't understand multi

Re: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-29 Thread Brill Pappin
- From: Brill Pappin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 June 2004 13:38 To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: RFE for the war plugin Yes, I thought of doing that very thing :) however I then have problems with Eclipse as it doesn't understand multi-project builds, and you really want all the parts

RE: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-29 Thread Matt Read
on introducing some of the more basic principles of OOD. Matt. -Original Message- From: Brill Pappin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 June 2004 14:03 To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: RFE for the war plugin Actually I don't really have much of a problem with Eclipse, other

Re: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-29 Thread Dion Gillard
- From: Brill Pappin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:38 PM To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: RFE for the war plugin Yes, I thought of doing that very thing :) however I then have problems with Eclipse as it doesn't understand multi-project builds, and you really

Re: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-29 Thread Brill Pappin
I thought I had explained this? Under no circumstances am I asking that classes not ever go into the classes directory, I'm not even asking that the JAR method be the default... I just want to be able to do it. Our requirements do not clash not even a little bit. So far, I've only herd reasons

Re: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-29 Thread Brill Pappin
heh, Ready or not, here it comes (re: mavin). The team I work with now is likely one of the best I've ever worked with... but also a fairly stubbourn bunch; unfortunatly buzz-words won't work here... we pratice Scrum, Pair Programming, agile and TDD daily so its not like there is no exposure or

RE: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-29 Thread Charles Daniels
: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:01 PM To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: RFE for the war plugin I thought I had explained this? Under no circumstances am I asking that classes not ever go into the classes directory, I'm not even asking that the JAR method be the default... I just want to be able to do

Re: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-29 Thread Michal Maczka
On Tue, 2004-06-29 at 18:00, Brill Pappin wrote: I thought I had explained this? You did not. [...] If you want to know more about what I'm doing (and why I'm asking for this), you can get a very good idea at this site: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/guide/versioning/index.html

RE: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-29 Thread Charles Daniels
: Brill Pappin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 9:03 AM To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: RFE for the war plugin Actually I don't really have much of a problem with Eclipse, other than I have to keep the parts of an app together... remember I'm one of the group who is trying

Re: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-29 Thread Brill Pappin
Thanks, thats a good and simple temporary solution and will do until a property can be added. - Brill Charles Daniels wrote: Brett, If you want to generate a jar file for your war file and do not want to create 2 subprojects (as is the general convention), you can create a very simple postGoal

Re: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-29 Thread Brill Pappin
Michal Maczka wrote: On Tue, 2004-06-29 at 18:00, Brill Pappin wrote: I thought I had explained this? You did not. [...] Actually yes I did, working backwards in time and no including the one quoted here: On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:53:47 -0400: The reason I specifically want to do it, is

Re: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-29 Thread Dion Gillard
will take the patch and apply it to the codebase! =) -Original Message- From: Brill Pappin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 3:41 PM To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: RFE for the war plugin Michal Maczka wrote: On Tue, 2004-06-29 at 18:00, Brill

RE: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-29 Thread John Casey
to JIRA. * hope that a commiter will take the patch and apply it to the codebase! =) -Original Message- From: Brill Pappin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 3:41 PM To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: RFE for the war plugin Michal Maczka wrote

Re: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-28 Thread Tomasz Pik
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 08:53:45 -0400, Brill Pappin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure some of us would prefer to keep the WEB-INF/classes dir, so my suggestion would be to include a switch property that would allow the user to use one or the other. Here's one reason: servlet specs define, that

Re: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-28 Thread Brett Porter
I don't see any reason to do this. It won't make it any smaller, unless you compress the JAR - but if you are worried about space keep the WAR packed in the container and compressed and you won't gain anything from packing the classes. You can still add a manifest to a WAR. I'd recommend against

RE: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-28 Thread Göschl,Siegfried
: Montag, 28. Juni 2004 15:03 To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: RFE for the war plugin On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 08:53:45 -0400, Brill Pappin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure some of us would prefer to keep the WEB-INF/classes dir, so my suggestion would be to include a switch property that would allow

Re: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-28 Thread Tomasz Pik
be such possibilty in 'war' plugin - please, make it not-default. Regards, Tomek Cheers, Siegfried Goeschl -Original Message- From: Tomasz Pik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Montag, 28. Juni 2004 15:03 To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: RFE for the war plugin On Mon, 28 Jun 2004

Re: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-28 Thread Brill Pappin
in 'war' plugin - please, make it not-default. Regards, Tomek Cheers, Siegfried Goeschl -Original Message- From: Tomasz Pik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Montag, 28. Juni 2004 15:03 To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: RFE for the war plugin On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 08:53:45 -0400, Brill Pappin

RE: RFE for the war plugin

2004-06-28 Thread Charles Daniels
property set to true (just like any other dependency that you bundle into your war file). -Original Message- From: Brill Pappin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 2:21 PM To: Maven Users List Subject: Re: RFE for the war plugin To clarify; I'm not asking