RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Reality Check. Surprisingly, nuclear fusion of deuterium into helium seems NOT sufficiently energetic to account for the Mizuno claim of heating his home. Mass is apparently being converted into energy, but how? And what are the ramifications of such a low reactor inventory of deuterium gas? T

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

For 100kw/h about 1.2mg of deuterium are needed. If pressure is lower then the relative density of D (D2 gas) increases, somewhere between 0.15 & 0.45g/l.The inventory is given by Ni/pd surface bound D, the volume (15l) of the reactor and the pressure factor (=0.003 for 300Pa) . But Mizuno r

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

. From: Jürg Wyttenbach Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 3:34 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices For 100kw/h about 1.2mg of deuterium are needed. If pressure is lower then the relative density

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

One possible way to shed some new light on the fusion issue is to run an experiment were the pressure of deuterium is reduced slowly down toward the 1 pa limit to see how the rate of heat output behaves. Once a minimum sustainable pressure is determined where the mesh reactor still produces steady

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Axil Axil wrote: > If the reactor stops producing heat at some later time, the fuel > consumption rate can be calculated and this data might indicate what energy > production mechanism is producing energy in the mesh reactor. > I have a feeling that might be caused by contamination rather than

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

From: H LV ➢ How much of the energy in a nuclear reaction is actually due to mass change?  Is there any reason to think that it would not be all? Even if sequential hydrogen cluster formation is responsible for the gain, and there is no fusion at all - the ultimate source of that heat would s

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

On Tue., Jul. 16, 2019, 9:54 a.m. JonesBeene, wrote: > > > *From: *H LV > > > >- How much of the energy in a nuclear reaction is actually due to mass >change? > > > > Is there any reason to think that it would not be all? > > > > Even if sequential hydrogen cluster formation is responsib

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

There is a natural tendency in the formulation of LENR theory to ignore or flat out deny the existence of outlying or contraindicated LENR processes that are generally observed and proven by observation but conflict with preconceived notions of LENR reality. One of these observations is that

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

“The energy release per atom would be useful, to narrow down the possibilities.” Yes. No doubt this detail would be very useful to know, but is it even possible to know? Probably NOT as of now – since it makes a fundamental assumption which is not proved. That fundamental assumption is that ener

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAsceiIMY2I The question is "how can microorganisms produce enough power to transmute elements". The answer to this question could involve a global Bose condensate (BEC) that forms throughout the entire extent of the bug colony. This BEC connects each bug through q

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Am 19.07.19 um 17:14 schrieb JonesBeene: There are other alternative mechanisms for gain not involving fusion. These researchers  also suggest or imply that clustering “alone” can produce significant excess energy with no fusion  and/or a delayed nucleon annihilation event. Here, we Clusteri

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

energy results in the small kinetic energy increases of many electrons and multiple nucleons in a crystal lattice. Bob Cook From: JonesBeene Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 7:14:19 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > In the Mizuno case we can exclude this behavior, as clustered D-D, inside larger clusters, always will undergo fusion... Always? ... doubt it. There is no evidence from Mizuno of helium and it makes no sense to be dogmatic on the issue until evidence arrives. Which

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

The elements transmuted by the LENR reaction are usually calcium, magnesium, sulfur, carbon, iron, aluminum. Helium is not usually found. In nature, supernova nucleosynthesis: the nucleosynthesis of chemical elements in supernova explosions are the usual nature generators of these heavier elements

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Am 19.07.19 um 19:32 schrieb Jones Beene: Which is to say: until we get mass spec readings for significant amounts of helium after a long run, fusion remains just a fall-back assumption based on old electrolysis results - and possibly unjustified for anything else. Surprisingly, even with a r

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to JonesBeene's message of Fri, 19 Jul 2019 08:14:19 -0700: Hi, [snip] >“The energy release per atom would be useful, to narrow down the >possibilities.” > >Yes. No doubt this detail would be very useful to know, but is it even >possible to know? I think that with careful work, it is p

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 19 Jul 2019 23:05:52 +0200: Hi, [snip] >In nuclear transformation (LENR) D* adds like a double proton and H* >adds like a neutron. That's what we see (exactly measure) from the gamma >radiation signature of complex reactions. Could you give a couple

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Two simple samples: 7-Li + H* --> 8Li --> 8-Be --> 2 4-He. (Lipinski reaction) 105Pd +D* -->107Cd --> 107Ag classic P&F. You can identify the decay paths by the typical gammas emitted. To learn about this use. https://www-nds.iaea.org/relnsd/vcharthtml/VChartHTML.html Most of the time the A

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Hello Jürg, How do you witness the reaction 107Cd->107Ag ? Arnaud -Original Message- From: Jürg Wyttenbach Sent: Saturday, 20 July 2019 18:10 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices Two sim

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Sat, 20 Jul 2019 18:09:51 +0200: Hi, [snip] >Two simple samples: > >7-Li + H* --> 8Li --> 8-Be --> 2 4-He. (Lipinski reaction) > >105Pd +D* -->107Cd --> 107Ag classic P&F. > >You can identify the decay paths by the typical gammas emitted. So which gammas a

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

So which gammas are emitted in the first case, and what would you expect if the reaction were 7-Li + H* --> 8-Be --> 2 4-He? H* is p+e that get both added. This was my first key finding about 3 years ago. You can look this explanation (gammas) up in my very old writeup about LENR or in the Lip

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

This is my favorite experiment: Radioactive decay half-life acceleration cause by time dilation Reference: https://arxiv.org/abs/1112 Accelerated alpha-decay of 232U isotope achieved

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

ubject: Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices Two simple samples: 7-Li + H* --> 8Li --> 8-Be --> 2 4-He. (Lipinski reaction) 105Pd +D* -->107Cd --> 107Ag classic P&F. You can identify the decay paths by the typical gammas

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices Two simple samples: 7-Li + H* --> 8Li --> 8-Be --> 2 4-He. (Lipinski reaction) 105Pd +D* -->107Cd --> 107Ag classic P&F. You can identify the decay paths by the typical gammas emitted. To le

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

- *From:* Jürg Wyttenbach *Sent:* Saturday, July 20, 2019 8:09:51 AM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices Two simple samples: 7-Li + H* --> 8Li --> 8-Be --> 2 4-He. (Lipinski reaction) 105Pd +D

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

http://www.jmcchina.org/html/2019/1/20190101.htm Replication of biologic transmutation using a chemical reaction. The productivity of the transmutation was a function of the ambient temperature of the solution. 75C produced the most transmutation. Note that there was no report of a heating effect

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 22 Jul 2019 00:41:51 -0400: Hi, [snip] >http://www.jmcchina.org/html/2019/1/20190101.htm > >Replication of biologic transmutation using a chemical reaction. > >The productivity of the transmutation was a function of the ambient >temperature of the solution.

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

If a nuclear reaction (fusion) was responsible for the transmutation, wouldn't gamma radiation be produced? On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 4:35 PM wrote: > In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 22 Jul 2019 00:41:51 -0400: > Hi, > [snip] > >http://www.jmcchina.org/html/2019/1/20190101.htm > > > >Repl

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to Axil Axil's message of Tue, 23 Jul 2019 16:39:57 -0400: Hi, [snip] >If a nuclear reaction (fusion) was responsible for the transmutation, >wouldn't gamma radiation be produced? Not necessarily as much as you might expect. It depends on the actual reaction. If there are particles avail

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Sun, 21 Jul 2019 18:39:48 +0200: Hi, [snip] >Bob > >One reason why the D* path is working like adding +2p/2e could be that >the internal electron from the neutron only needs to do a little push to >get to the k-shell. Thus no need to emit an electron! K

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

K shells are not usually vacant, so such an electron would still upset things. Regards, You miss the point! If you increase the nuclear charge by +2 then exactly 2 k-shell electrons are missing! (If you understand the energy levels ...) Jürg Wyttenbach Am 24.07.19 um 04:46 schrieb mix...@big

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

, July 23, 2019 12:39:57 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices If a nuclear reaction (fusion) was responsible for the transmutation, wouldn't gamma radiation be produced? On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 4:35 PM mailt

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

repeated like LENR reactions. Bob Cook Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: mix...@bigpond.com Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 6:46:04 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:15:44 +0200: Hi, [snip] >K shells are not usually vacant, so such an electron would still upset >things. Regards, > >You miss the point! If you increase the nuclear charge by +2 then >exactly 2 k-shell electrons are missing! True, I d

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:19:02 +: Hi, [snip] >For example, spin energy transitions within a coupled “coherent” system may >not entail any radiation at all, if there is a perfect conservation of angular >momentum during the LENR event. Of course r

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

D* owns a deep orbit 2.15pm (Holmlid)In SO(4)this halve of that (1.07pm) like electron too. From the 7-Li-H* reaction we know that the deep shell electron binds to the nuclear flux too. Of course there are still many open questions but if you understand the mass structure e.g. of Deuterium I sh

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices In reply to bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Wed, 24 Jul 2019 13:19:02 +: Hi, [snip] >For example, spin energy transitions within a coupled “coherent” system may >not entail any radiation

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

In reply to bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Fri, 26 Jul 2019 02:28:29 +: Hi Bob, [snip] >Robin- > > > >During NMR isomeric transitions, nuclear species are stimulated with a radio >frequency EM field to gain kinetic spin energy in the form of increased >angular momentum in small quanta

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

The latest analog black hole experiment done in Israel has extracted phonic energy as Hawking radiation from the vacuum. https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-have-stimulated-hawking-radiation-in-a-lab-analogue-of-a-black-hole We Just Got Lab-Made Evidence of Stephen Hawking's Greatest Pr