Re: [313] tune info
It was originally released on the B-side of the original + remixes of 'Anthem' on Deconstruction, which was/is a sub label of BMG. Cheers, Gerald. Tom Serna wrote: Just wondering If anyone could tell me which EP a track called malfunction by n-joi came out on? I've been looking for this one for a while and was told it was on rs , but ad.techno.org has no listing for it also could someone do likewise for celestial massive by selway cheers __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] tune info
Hmmm, what's the catalog number for the Anthem 12? I have Malfunction on two different 12's, one is an actually Malfunction 12 single with two other tracks called Manic and Techno Gangsters (62006-1) on Deconstruction, then it also appeared on the Mindflux EP, with Mindflux and two other tracks called Phoenix and Rhythm Zone (Deconstruction 62162-1). Just curious as to when it might have surfaced first. Matt E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://magicmattkelly.tripod.com It was originally released on the B-side of the original + remixes of 'Anthem' on Deconstruction, which was/is a sub label of BMG. Cheers, Gerald. Tom Serna wrote: Just wondering If anyone could tell me which EP a track called malfunction by n-joi came out on? I've been looking for this one for a while and was told it was on rs , but ad.techno.org has no listing for it also could someone do likewise for celestial massive by selway
Subject: RE: [313] Bass
I second Shake's 5% Solution - an amazing EP. Day of Reckoning is in my all-time Top Techno 10! Another bass job which blew the lid off was the recent Alton M. on Moods and Grooves. Nice mastering, ouch! -mg @ environ environ * 73 mandeville drive * wayne, NJ 07470-6566 * USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.webspan.net/~environ
Re: [313] DEMF pre-party Friday May 26
-Original Message- From: Hugh G. Blaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, May 22, 2000 4:52 PM Subject: [313] DEMF pre-party Friday May 26 On Friday, May 26 Corrections/Cloud 9 will be hosting a DEMF pre-party. Your DJs will be: TRAXX Chicago Carlos Souffront Detroit/Ann Arbor Admission to this event is $2. Cloud 9 is located at 8534 Conant in Hamtramck. Call (313) 923-000 for info on the night of the event. Directions; take I-75 to Caniff exit. East On Caniff, past Jos Compau to Conant. Right on Conant and head south about 1 mile (under a railroad bridge). Cloud 9 will be on your left. Does anyone know how late this event will be going, or when Carlos Souffront will be spinning? Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102/index.htm FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger New mix, Propper Techno and new Album, Québécois, online now. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
DJ ... Tokyo.
You people are all gonna give me head noogies for this, but ... Unfortunately, I won't be able to join you all for the love-in, oops, I mean the DEMF :-) The lure of a US $300 r/t ticket to Tokyo (yes, that's not a typo ... $300 ... I *HEART* on-line airline ticket auctions) proved too much. I'm leaving tomorrow and won't return to the States until at least May 31st, and more likely the first week in June. So I'm afraid I'll have to miss the DEMF :-( I'm taking small solace in the fact that at least I'm going to Sonar to make up for it! If any of you have any recommendations for Tokyo, I'm all ears. (Liquid Room still open? Any Ken Ishii sightings of late? URL's? etc. etc.) I'll be there for DEMF II, though. Count on it! - Greg
Re: [313] a couple of questions
Fracture was one of the many labels under the As It Is collective back in 96-97. I think it was operated by Paul Mac but I'm not positive about that. However, Mac was responsible for the other three eps on the label. All the releases on the label were in the warm detroit-influnced sound with Outerspace Obsessive being my favorite. Sounds good! I picked up a Paul Mac record recently on Ongaku, sounds like what you describe. Warm yet powerful techno. If you like this, check out the polish recognition label - I picked up 01 by Jacek Sienciewiez (spelling?). Nice. Lotsa good music being released at the moment! Dave __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Track ID
This is driving me nuts. I have a dub of Jeff Mills's set from _I Love Techno_ from last summer, and there's a track on there (near the beginning of his set, I think, although since the MP3 I have just jumps right in I have no real idea) I'd really like to identify. It sounds like it could be by Mills himself, but I don't think it is. It's tribal and trancy at the same time, with a totally wicked, harshly (and trebly) filtered tribal percussion line (sounds like the old Tronik House breakbeat) over the top. Plust it has that boom boom boomboomboom kick drum pattern that Mills seems to love so much. It sorta sounds like it could have been on Reload back in the day, but with more of that Mills feel. Any help would be totally appreciated (I know the description sucks, but hey, it's techno, what do you want/). Tracks like that really make me want to make music. Hell, if anyone has a track listing for that set and felt like sharing, that would be great. Mills is not the world's most technically proficient DJ, but his fucking up is more interesting than most other DJs' perfection. Plus he seems to be finding all the new records that fail to suck in the most intense possible way. ozy PS -- I sent out an e-mail on Mills' recent output a while ago, but I don't think it ever got through. I'll resend it following this. . . . the self-reflecting image of a narcotized mind . . . ozymandias G desiderata [EMAIL PROTECTED] desperate, deathless (415)558-9064http://www.aoaioxxysz.com/ ::AOAIOXXYSZ::
I'm confused (was Re: (313) Jeff Mills - The Art of Connecting)
[ I sent this out a while ago, but either you all thought my obsessive trainspotting was too sad to merit comment or it didn't make it through to the list. -- ozy ] The recent mention of _The Art Of Connecting_ has me wondering what Mills is thinking these days. In addition to owning the majority of the Axis and Purpose Maker releases on 12, I own these CD compilations (duplicated tracks marked with exclamation points): o Waveform Transmissions vol 1 (Axis / Tresor / Pow Wow Trance, US) 1) Phase 4 2) Jerical 3) Changes Of Life 4) Berlin 5) The Hacker 6) Late Night ! 7) DNA 8) Man Like o Waveform Transmissions vol 3 (Axis / Tresor, US) 1) The Extremist 2) Solid Sleep 3) Life Cycle 4) Workers 5) Wrath Of The Punisher ! 6) DNA ! 7) Condor To Mallorca 8) Basic Human Design o The Other Day (Axis, Japanese) 1) Solarized ! 2) Gamma Player 3) Sleeping Giants 4) i9 5) Time Out Of Mind 6) Growth 7) Gateway of Zen 8) Medusa 9) Man From Tomorrow 10) Spider Formation 11) Childhood [Maria's Mix] 12) Humana 13) Inner Life (529) ! 14) Eclipse ! 15) Nepta 16) Mercury o Lifelike (Axis / Purpose Maker, French) 1) Yantra ! 2) Condor to Mallorca 3) Global Factor 4) Zenith ! 5) Nepta 6) Babylon 7) Minnia (The Queen's Theme) 8) Detached 9) Systematic 10) Cometh (only) 11) Solara 12) Avenger ! 13) Eclipse 14) With/Dove Stuff that's out there but that I don't have: o Purpose Maker Compilation 1) Dancer 2) Casa ! 3) Bells 4) Reverting 5) Alarms 6) Outsiders 7) Cubango 8) Medicine Man 9) Paradise 10) Masterplan 11) Fly Guy 12) Fuzz Dancer 13) Tango 14) Captivate o The Art of Connecting (Axis, Australia (others?)) 1) Deckard ! 2) Nepta ! 3) Gamma Player 4) 4 Art 5) Pacific State Of Mind 6) Cobolt ! 7) The Bells 8) Java 9) UFO 10) Utopia The thing that confuses me is the way that tracks from one of Mills' releases will pop up on another. What it looks like is that Mills is releasing a whole bunch of collections all over the place without really trying to avoid overlap. I don't get why he feels the need to have the overlap, because anyone who goes to the lengths necessary to find one of these releases (none of which, aside from the Waveform Transmissions records, are particularly easy to find) will try to find them all. Additionally, his albums are always admirably terse (no irony implied) so it's even weirder to have material duplicated from one release to another. I guess I'd be more inclined to buy another Mills album if I didn't already have a big chunk of that material. It's not like Mills doesn't have a huge backlog of unreleased stuff that's high quality -- all of the recent mixes I've heard by him have been filled with amazing stuff I've never heard anywhere else (although I'm only guessing it's by Mr. Mills). He's a puzzling guy. On an unrelated topic, thanks to all who said nice things about the _Mixed Up In The Hague_ compilation a while ago. I picked it up this weekend and it is indeed verrah nice. It's like a cleaner-sounding version of one of those great old Hot Mix tapes TeeP used to send me once upon a time. still alive, ozymandias . . . the self-reflecting image of a narcotized mind . . . ozymandias G desiderata [EMAIL PROTECTED] desperate, deathless (415)558-9064http://www.aoaioxxysz.com/ ::AOAIOXXYSZ::
Re: [313] tune info
It's a '91 U.K. release, and the catalog number is PT 6. Hope this helps! Gerald. Matthew L. Thompson wrote: Hmmm, what's the catalog number for the Anthem 12? I have Malfunction on two different 12's, one is an actually Malfunction 12 single with two other tracks called Manic and Techno Gangsters (62006-1) on Deconstruction, then it also appeared on the Mindflux EP, with Mindflux and two other tracks called Phoenix and Rhythm Zone (Deconstruction 62162-1). Just curious as to when it might have surfaced first. Matt E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://magicmattkelly.tripod.com It was originally released on the B-side of the original + remixes of 'Anthem' on Deconstruction, which was/is a sub label of BMG. Cheers, Gerald. Tom Serna wrote: Just wondering If anyone could tell me which EP a track called malfunction by n-joi came out on? I've been looking for this one for a while and was told it was on rs , but ad.techno.org has no listing for it also could someone do likewise for celestial massive by selway - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
demf [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s/ 2blocks fromhart plaza
Saw this Flier Today--looks pretty good, the more the merrier and live sets for a change.. Beneath the surface.. If you are just heading out of your hotels, come to Foran's Irish Pub ((2 blocks north of hart plaza))) for a cold pint of beer and an heavy dose of live music. Live Programming byStarting at 8:00,-3:00am Detronik, Kelsey Vaughn Thomas, Marooned, Year of the robot, AgoraOne,MusicalChairs... DJ'ing Dusty Fingers Watts Seoul Silence823 'MUNK This event will be the perfect taste of Detroit for those who aren't in the mood for long lines in the heart of the city.. 612 woodward 313-392-9423 __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] demf [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s/ 2blocks fromhart plaza
What day is this and does anyone know these djs? Fred
Re: (313) Theo Parrish new release the Black Fu mix CD
At 9:21 PM + 5/6/00, every man wrote: It's possible it may be one of the 5 new trks on S.S. #9 (dbl pack), however only the whites are out now w/ no track listing. Also, Theo's new mixtape (methods of movement) has at least one or two tracks on it that are definitely his, but unreleased to my knowledge... I finally tracked this new mixtape down (Methods of Movement), Groovy Train in Ferndale (next to the other RecordTime location on 9 Mile) had this new one and the one from 1999 (Theo Parrish Live in Detroit). Love this stuff, plenty of pops and hisses... amazing historical selections, the soul is thicker than the scum around Zug Island. RecordTime also has the exquisite Dan Bell mix CD on Tresor and the Paris the Black Fu mix CD on THROW (there are 2 volumes, 1 techno and 1 jungle). I got the techno one, very Claude Young stylee mixing, aggressive in true detroit fashion everything is pitched way up and cut-n-scratch. Extra long and funny shout-outs at the intro with a noted shout to Ian Malbon (I.M.) and the lovely Linda Swanson, ye. Worth seeking this one out, anyone have the jungle mix CD by Paris, how does it compare (besides music style, obviously). cheers -- Matt MacQueen http://www.reverbmag.com radio show archives in real audio -- http://macqueen.com/radio
Re: [313] I'm confused (was Re: (313) Jeff Mills - The Art of Connecting)
The recent mention of _The Art Of Connecting_ has me wondering what Mills is thinking these days. The thing that confuses me is the way that tracks from one of Mills' releases will pop up on another. He's a puzzling guy. I interviewed him recently and mean to really do a reworking of it as I wasn't happy with the way it was presented here, but I think what he is trying to do is present his material in different contexts, according to a theme. I always wondered why he called his albums compilations (eg The Other Day) and not albums, since that is in a sense downgrading them and, yes, that occurred to him also. I think the theme of The Art Of Connecting is how the Internet and new technologies have changed our perceptions of time and space, and I notice that it has been released in territories where the techno scene is relatively young or fresh - Australia, East Europe and, I think, Sweden. So maybe a secondary theme is how techno connects people from different corners of the world? The concept behind Lifelike is that he has selected the material that he feels best respresents his personality. So it's the conceptual aspect that has become the criteria for track selection. I think there is good justification for releasing what has already come out on vinyl on CD as, unlike the UK, in countries like Australia vinyl is very expensive, not to mention turntables, and it's mostly DJs who buy it. Cyclone
Re: [313] mix tapes and such
And why is Waveform Transmission vol 2 harder to find then volumes 1 and 3. Is vol 2 all rob hood or did jeff mills help out. any help is appreciated. It is Rob's volume and has been recently re-released on CD. Not sure about vinyl. C
Re: [313] Re: Australia [age then vs. age now]
Sorry about the late reply to this - I have been sick with bronchitis for weeks and going to Oliver Ho didn't help (awesome DJ by the way, folks - plays deep, intelligent sexy techno!). Did you ever read the Mayday interview in Mixmag? It came out a few years ago. Anyway, he explained it in his usual eloquent manner there. I don't think he has a moral problem with drugs, it's more that it hurts him that people need drugs to feel the music when it should be their own souls and hearts that respond to it. What does it say about your music if people need drugs to feel it? It also pains him to see people self-destructing. I think that's it. what is derrick may's view of drugs? if i have heard it, i can't recall... peace, holly
Fw: [313] confused
-Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] relatively young or fresh - Australia, East Europe and, fresh?young?Australia? they made real 100% pure juice stuff in Adelaide,as early as 92 (b4 Jeff left UR AFX did Ambient works) the first rekids from East Europe (umekstuff on Absense) started round 96,which is when the scene here was dead already ;) e,r
Re: [313] new to list...
William VanLoo wrote: This artist has some great tracks that are very similar to the style you list below: http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/75/verbal_kint.html Verbal Kint (who is that, anyway?). wasn't Verbal Kint a character in the movie 'The Usual Suspects' starring Kevin Spacey others? I'm pretty sure that's right cos one of the tracks is called Kobayashi, which i'm certain is a character from said movie. nathan np - waveform transmissions vol 2 - weapons.
Re: [313] demf [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s/2blocks fromhart plaza
If that was a crack on the fact that I haven't had any live acts out at the bar it's because I've only been approached by one live act to play [besides Nate Deyonker, I think, who will be performing] and they wanted money. I'm all for live entertainment and I think the clientele would really dig it. So come one and come all, you are right. Speaking of 'come one come all' I'll be leaving the tables totally open to interpretation and demonstration for the next two weeks for any serious international out-of-towners who want a no-hassle D gig (but there will be three people that I booked casually that are definitely on, so you may want to just come as a spectator [always free] and enjoy) and that includes live sets, if someone wants to be so ambitious--you can do it upstairs in the loft and look down on the crowd if you want. 1 sound system, 1 performance at a time. Details on the lineup in an upcoming email But come and support this gig (it's on Friday) *and* Cloud 9 if you can! 'Munk is a local institution in this city and along with him of course I myself am looking forward to seeing Micho and his crafty 606 manipulations and the return of both Silence823 (Meighen Henry) and DJ Seoul (Bill Stacey). Steve Saw this Flier Today--looks pretty good, the more the merrier and live sets for a change.. Beneath the surface.. If you are just heading out of your hotels, come to Foran's Irish Pub ((2 blocks north of hart plaza))) for a cold pint of beer and an heavy dose of live music. Live Programming byStarting at 8:00,-3:00am Detronik, Kelsey Vaughn Thomas, Marooned, Year of the robot, AgoraOne,MusicalChairs... DJ'ing Dusty Fingers Watts Seoul Silence823 'MUNK This event will be the perfect taste of Detroit for those who aren't in the mood for long lines in the heart of the city.. 612 woodward 313-392-9423
Re: [313] Fw: [313] confused
relatively young or fresh - Australia, East Europe and, fresh?young?Australia? they made real 100% pure juice stuff in Adelaide,as early as 92 (b4 Jeff left UR AFX did Ambient works) the first rekids from East Europe (umekstuff on Absense) started round 96,which is when the scene here was dead already ;) To clairify: Hey, I have been covering the Australian scene for some years now, so I know the history! There were always innovators, renegades, HMC was one of them, Voiteck another, and there are yet others, but the scene as a whole has come into its own in recent years, almost everyone in Melbourne would acknowledge that (the promoters, the DJs) - and I know most of them personally - and I think many of the Adelaide posse too, like Bundi. I think the techno scene here is in many ways ahead of other parts of the world now. Every territory develops differently, in some ways faster, others slower. Most of the internationals comment on the freshness of the Australian scene, and I have heard the same said of Eastern Europe (I myself am of Eastern European background, as is Voiteck), with Australians and Eastern Europeans being less jaded than some of the Brits/Western Europeans, and maybe that impressed people like Mills. At no point did anyone say we were regressive or that there was a non-existent scene at any stage. C
Re: [313] a couple of questions
Hate to be a pedant, but Fracture was a short-lived sister to Blueprint operated by James Ruskin. All the releases on it, except Claude Young's, obviously, are by Paul Mac. James put it on permanent hold because the records just didn't sell. Blueprint itself was originally part of the As It Is stable, hence the connection, but went 100% independant after a handful of releases (as As It Is disintegrated). On holiday from saturday - first holiday in adecade - yay! TOM - Original Message - From: Dave Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:10 AM Subject: Re: [313] a couple of questions Fracture was one of the many labels under the As It Is collective back in 96-97. I think it was operated by Paul Mac but I'm not positive about that. However, Mac was responsible for the other three eps on the label. All the releases on the label were in the warm detroit-influnced sound with Outerspace Obsessive being my favorite. Sounds good! I picked up a Paul Mac record recently on Ongaku, sounds like what you describe. Warm yet powerful techno. If you like this, check out the polish recognition label - I picked up 01 by Jacek Sienciewiez (spelling?). Nice. Lotsa good music being released at the moment! Dave __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re:Subject: n-joi malfunction
Last year i found several RCA promo 12 of malfunction while shopping online for a couple of bucks. and if memory serves me correctly there was a N-joi CD compilation out around 92 or 93 with all of their early 90's hits. Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 07:31:03 -0700 (PDT) To: 313@hyperreal.org From: Tom Serna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: n-joi malfunction Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just wondering If anyone could tell me which EP a track called malfunction by n-joi came out on? I've been looking for this one for a while and was told it was on rs , but ad.techno.org has no listing for it also could someone do likewise for celestial massive by selway cheers __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ --
RE: [313] demf [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s/ 2blocks fromhart plaza
i know watts and seoul. i saw them spin an old school electro tag team. i know that seoul will switch between spinning house and electro. i don't know much about Mr Watts though. they were pretty good when they spun that electro tag team. they also had an MC. it made things very interesting. never saw anything like it before or after. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 9:35 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] demf [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s/ 2blocks fromhart plaza What day is this and does anyone know these djs? Fred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: [idm] Anthony Shakirs new releases
A couple of up-tempo house tracks (pretty good) and one beautiful downtempo track. It's always the downtempo tracks of his that I like the best... you'll probably like his new on on klang elektronik that just hit the stores
Re: [313] interstellar fugitives
petit histoire... Jamaica was one of the few islands in the West Indies which was large enough for slaves who escaped from the plantations to hide from the British. Protected to some extent by the religeously non-racist indigenous people (before they were wiped out altogether), the Maroons (derived from spanish Cimmaron -meaning the wild/untammed) became a tribe who repeatedly resisted the British attacks. (hence Maroon -suburban knight) regarding nannytown by UR, this is a town in Jamaica where Grandy Nanny was supposed to have lived. Actually a great military strategist, this chieftaness of the Maroons has become something of a folk heroine to todays jamaicans. The most famous story about her concerns one of the many attacks upon the town, in which nanny was reported to have taken the cannons and gunshots of the British into her punani, and fired them back at the Britishif only I knew girls who could do that. The CD seems to have more suggestive track titles as well (dollis hill, zero is my country), So I was wondering if this album had a wavejumpers-style concept behind it. if anyone knows for certain, I would love to know Seth The Electric Press From: Counterforce - Lay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Seth Redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] interstellar fugitives Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 12:48:09 +0100 Haye! I noticed that the interstellar fugitives album has songs called Nannytown and Maroon, presumably in reference to Nanny, the jamaican folk heroine. *** Can you tell me a bit more about this, or point me to a place where I can get some more info? I too have been intrigued by the titles, but I never had any clue *at all*. *** Thanks in advance. Id' realy appreciate it. Lay Um Império Tecnológico consolidado pela Necessidade http://barkingcat.org/counterforce Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Re: Australia [age then vs. age now]
i agree with that, how many times have people on this list tried to talk to a friend about the music you like/love and have them dribble shit like oh yeah, but you have to pop a pill to like that crap? i know i have many times. Not me. Not ever. You need new friends. see you all soon... h
Re: [313] those 909 sounds!
Yea, i agree with everything Jim has to say except the part about the Korg ER-1, listen to it and fuck around with it several times before you buy. Remember, you can get decent sounds out of crap gear if your creative but with a little extra dough you can buy decent gear that will do a lot more for you, technology has come a long way. good luck, stephen.
cyberinvite 5/26 5/27
(313) A SUMMER TO REMEMBER Please print out this email and bring it to science on either Friday 5/26/00 or Saturday 5/27/00 for complimentary admission for 2 people. Well be here both nights from 9 pm until 5 am. Weather permitting, the outdoor deck is now open. After 2 am, please stop by to enjoy our downtempo chill-out afterhours. Pizza will be available for those late-night post drinking munchies Info313-438-4146 www.detroitscience.com 18 over welcome From hart plaza its really easy to get here expressway all the way and only 15 minutes. Jefferson west under cobo hall. North on lodge/10. Take 94 west its a LEFT exit! Get over to the right lanes immediately, take 96 west towards lansing to exit 177, inkster road. Turn left at the light and were 2nd building on the left, the big black building next to the comerica bank. See ya here, Linda g Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Need Assistance w/Track ID
I once found Rythim is Rhythim - Nude photo and Suburban knight - The groove at a flea market in Texas for $1.00! They still had the shrink wrap on them and these were the originals (silver and bronze) not the re-releases. Dont ask me how they got there. Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 09:25:45 PDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: jim proffit [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Need Assistance w/Track ID Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JavierDrada wrote: Anothe record I need is - Laurent X Machines, anyone know where in the continental US I might hapen to stumble on a copy? You're lookin' for the original pressings, right? That's a harder case but I think Sonic groove could have them, original used that is. But if House Nation re-presses will do, Hardwax -and Sonic G.- has them in stock all the time. Don't bother with the licence-shits!!! Buy the original. But of course you could go to some mom pop ROCK record-shops in non-civilized parts of the U.S.A. and find yourself ten original unopened Machines EPs for ten dollars... Like I found a shop that had an ORIGINAL ALTERED STATES by Ron Trent on Warehouse for $1.00! And just my luck some other guy picked it right in front of my nose, DOH! (They also had 2 original Jamie Principle's Waiting on my angel on Persona records (1985 Baby!) for $2.00, and I didn't get them either! Sheeiiit!!!
Re: [313] interstellar fugitives
Haye! The CD seems to have more suggestive track titles as well (dollis hill, zero is my country), So I was wondering if this album had a wavejumpers-style concept behind it. *** Zero is my Country seems to be about the Z-gene that leads to Negative Evolution. Z is short for Zero in the ISF notes inside the cover. *** Your explanation about the Maroons fits right into those notes. *** But this album is full of simbolisms. Zero is My Country starts like a space trip, hence Interstellar Fugitives. Then you have Afrogermanic standing for the Detroit-Berlin connection and you get to hear a plane taking off (simbolizing the trip from Detroit to Berlin). A bit more ahead in the track you hear something like Only U.R. knows in a very distorted voice. *** In Mi Raza, what does the vocal say? I can only figure out something like Que passa la casa or maybe Que passa la raza?. Does anyone know? *** This seems like the works that Mike would do, full of hidden things and everything with it meaning. I *ADORE* this album inside and out, and I'd be willing to have a discution with anyone who wants to talk about these symbols in UR's ISF. Lay Um Império Tecnológico consolidado pela Necessidade http://barkingcat.org/counterforce
Re: [313] Fw: [313] confused
ea rinon wrote: -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] relatively young or fresh - Australia, East Europe and, fresh?young?Australia? they made real 100% pure juice stuff in Adelaide,as early as 92 (b4 Jeff left UR AFX did Ambient works) the first rekids from East Europe (umekstuff on Absense) started round 96,which is when the scene here was dead already ;) Scene here in Slovenia really started developing sometime in 94-95, with Matrix Musik (which was the first techno label in eastern europe), and than Absense stuff. But people were producing stuff Djing much earlier. Random Logic had their first track out in 92 on some compilation, they were also the first ones to get a deal on a foreign label (Black Label in 95), than came Umek Absense stuff. I have to find some time and write a history of slovenian techno scene and put it on my page. Jernej -- http://megaklik.si/sol/ the sound of ljubljana http://www.megaklik.si vasa stran za mega dan http://www.bolha.com bolsji sejem na internetu
Re: [313] demf [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s/ 2blocks fromhart plaza
Friday, early, 8:00 yes, the dj's are local staples and some I have never heard from--but munk(the promoter) is a local legend and he has good taste in music... the live acts will be dope, get there early --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What day is this and does anyone know these djs? Fred - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] demf [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s-live pa
Just wanted to take the opportunity to let people know this should be a really great show. we from detronik hope that everyone can make it out to see this show. for all you gear junkies and live pa enthusiasts heres what we are useing that night... TR-606 x2 TR-707 MC-202 SH-101 TB-303 MS-2000 (New Korg) Theremin kurzweil 2000...e (I hate samplers, however it is essential to sample some of our more fragile analogues) Speak and Spell Speak and Touch Talking Teacher This is our minimal set, sorry, not bringing 808, trying to prove something can be done with out it. I will be doing my crazy balanceing act of live drum machine manipulations, sure to get your head nodding and your butt moving. if your interested in my 606 mods and are in detroit, you oughta check it out. also, kind of ironic actually, meighen (silence823) my old partner and soon to be record label rep is also spinning that night... there is going to be some real energy this night. meighen is one of the best djs i know. hmmm, maybe we oughta join each other in a mix! p.s. we will have CDs up for sale... only $7! pehaps we will have a blue light up so you can find them. still working on the vinyl, very soon, very soon... ::.:::.:.:::..:..:::.::.:::.:.::..::.:.:..: visuals ~ experimental audio ~ toy - instrument expansion ...:::.:.:::.:.:::.:.:..:...:.:...:::.:.:...:.::.:.::.. ::create : recreate : alter::: ::synthetic - detroit ::detronik contact info::.:.::..:. p: 248.407.8283 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s: www.mp3.com/detronik Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
RECORD RELEASE PARTY
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1 TRAK
Hey all, just a reminder that tonight is another 1 TRAK night. Serving up beats tonight is Roo and C.B., cover as always is $5 and doors open at 9:30. Hope to see some of you out. 'Michigan' Myke [1 TRAK Resident] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY
oh oh... I'm afraid I don't get it - what is offensive in the fact that a party is organised for a record release ? I don't mean to offense anyone, it is just that I'm completely puzzled by these messages ? Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY I must agree. This is exactly the kinda thing they want the American public to dig while they try to shut up the black techno community who gave bith to this fantastic music we all love so much. I'm not against this music, but if they want people to shut their eyes to what's happening in their backyard, that's cruel. And no, I'm not a black,frustrated kid; I'm white, European and hell I know where all this great music originated! John (see yall soon in da D!) -Original Message- From: Giles Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:18 PM To: daz det Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY I'M SORRY BUT I FIND THIS POST MILDLY SUBVERSIVE AND SOMEWHAT OFFENSIVE. PLEASE TELL ME YOU'RE KIDDING? daz det wrote: Record Release After Party Sunday 5/28/00 ***Essential Mix Vol 1*** Paul Oakenfold~Fatboy Slim Free Giveaways Live DJ's ~ Special Guests... 10pm on to dawn Comet on Main St Royal Oak __ __ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY
As I said Gwendal; I'm not against the music you are promoting, totally not, but I guess you picked the wrong list to drop this message. This list is from Detroit, the city where techno and dance music originated, but these people never got the respect they deserve from their countrymen. It's a thorn in the eye of many artists in Detroit (and people everywhere) that the established music industry tries to promote acts like yours who are in fact more rock oriented (at least what image and all is concerned) while that same industry doesn't give a sh*t about the artists who are the real innovators. You are bound to get negative reactions on a list like 313 that is mainly for Detroit techno-minded people. Sorry for lashing out, but please try to include some 'native' artists on the next record release party. And I'm not talking about Moby! Hopes this clears things out a little, John Hmm, could someone back me up on this? -Original Message- From: Gwendal Cobert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY oh oh... I'm afraid I don't get it - what is offensive in the fact that a party is organised for a record release ? I don't mean to offense anyone, it is just that I'm completely puzzled by these messages ? Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY I must agree. This is exactly the kinda thing they want the American public to dig while they try to shut up the black techno community who gave bith to this fantastic music we all love so much. I'm not against this music, but if they want people to shut their eyes to what's happening in their backyard, that's cruel. And no, I'm not a black,frustrated kid; I'm white, European and hell I know where all this great music originated! John (see yall soon in da D!) -Original Message- From: Giles Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:18 PM To: daz det Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY I'M SORRY BUT I FIND THIS POST MILDLY SUBVERSIVE AND SOMEWHAT OFFENSIVE. PLEASE TELL ME YOU'RE KIDDING? daz det wrote: Record Release After Party Sunday 5/28/00 ***Essential Mix Vol 1*** Paul Oakenfold~Fatboy Slim Free Giveaways Live DJ's ~ Special Guests... 10pm on to dawn Comet on Main St Royal Oak __ __ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY
Gwendal Cobert,[EMAIL PROTECTED],internet writes: oh oh... I'm afraid I don't get it - what is offensive in the fact that a party is organised for a record release ? I don't mean to offense anyone, it is just that I'm completely puzzled by these messages ? Gwendal It's a record store trying to generate sales of pulply, commericalized dreck on the back of what was a legitimaite, genuine, spontaneous combustion of human endeavor. Disgusting. Of course there will always be commerical minded people trying to make a buck of someone eleses integrity, but it just sucks when it's so blatant. It's even more disheartening when it shows up on the 313 list. It's like someone showing up at an oasis surrounded by thirsty travellers and that one idiot taking a piss in the pond. The important thing to note about that message is that it only says Live Dj's. There's no mention of who they actually are as I assume no one with any credibility would attach their name to such a crass Wal-Mart-like event. Wow, did I ever wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.
Re: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY
On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 03:26:33PM +0200, Gwendal Cobert wrote: oh oh... I'm afraid I don't get it - what is offensive in the fact that a party is organised for a record release ? I don't mean to offense anyone, it is just that I'm completely puzzled by these messages ? It's just that people find it hard not to react to obvious flame bait. Cheers, Hans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY I must agree. This is exactly the kinda thing they want the American public to dig while they try to shut up the black techno community who gave bith to this fantastic music we all love so much. I'm not against this music, but if they want people to shut their eyes to what's happening in their backyard, that's cruel. And no, I'm not a black,frustrated kid; I'm white, European and hell I know where all this great music originated! John (see yall soon in da D!) -Original Message- From: Giles Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:18 PM To: daz det Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY I'M SORRY BUT I FIND THIS POST MILDLY SUBVERSIVE AND SOMEWHAT OFFENSIVE. PLEASE TELL ME YOU'RE KIDDING? daz det wrote: Record Release After Party Sunday 5/28/00 ***Essential Mix Vol 1*** Paul Oakenfold~Fatboy Slim Free Giveaways Live DJ's ~ Special Guests... 10pm on to dawn Comet on Main St Royal Oak __ __ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.TV-99-AD.com/hans/ http://TechnoTourist.org/
party royal oak
friend asked me to post this: Record Release After Party Sunday 5/28/00 ***Essential Mix Vol 1*** Free Giveaways Live DJ's ~ Special Guests... 10pm on to dawn Comet on Main St Royal Oak [EMAIL PROTECTED] any questions (ie whos playing) get in contact with dwight (email above)
RE: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY
OK then - distinctions between techno genres etc are quite fuzzy to me, though I'm afraid that without people like Andrew Weatherall (who you probably rank with Oakenfold and Slim) I would still be listening to Aerosmith and REM, and knowing nothing about Juan Atkins... What puzzles me is the fact that you say Trance is a no-no on this list - last week there was a thread about Acid Trance ? or is there some clear genre distinction between the two ? for now I'm completely lost between the numerous genres and subgenres Gwendal -Original Message- From: FC3 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:49 PM To: 'Gwendal Cobert' Subject: RE: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY it is the fact that we are on a detroit techno and detroit music mailing list. Fatboy Slim and Paul Okenfold are kinda what we take a stand against. Big Beat and Trance are no no's in this forum. -Original Message- From: Gwendal Cobert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 6:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject:RE: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY oh oh... I'm afraid I don't get it - what is offensive in the fact that a party is organised for a record release ? I don't mean to offense anyone, it is just that I'm completely puzzled by these messages ? Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY I must agree. This is exactly the kinda thing they want the American public to dig while they try to shut up the black techno community who gave bith to this fantastic music we all love so much. I'm not against this music, but if they want people to shut their eyes to what's happening in their backyard, that's cruel. And no, I'm not a black,frustrated kid; I'm white, European and hell I know where all this great music originated! John (see yall soon in da D!) -Original Message- From: Giles Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:18 PM To: daz det Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY I'M SORRY BUT I FIND THIS POST MILDLY SUBVERSIVE AND SOMEWHAT OFFENSIVE. PLEASE TELL ME YOU'RE KIDDING? daz det wrote: Record Release After Party Sunday 5/28/00 ***Essential Mix Vol 1*** Paul Oakenfold~Fatboy Slim Free Giveaways Live DJ's ~ Special Guests... 10pm on to dawn Comet on Main St Royal Oak __ __ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Just wondering
Hey, is there anything good going on in Detroit this weekend? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Jeff Mills / Changes of Life
Well, me personally, I always thought it sounded like a tribute to D May's Strings Of Life. But then again, I could be wrong. Cheers C sorry to post about Jeff Mills ... ;-) but I recently discovered him and his CD comps, and found that Changes of Life seems completely different from the rest - is it because I am missing an important part of his discog ? does this particular track relates to some specific part of his career ?
Re: [313] demf [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s-live pa
hjoin eachother in a mix? sounds like insane fun! i will also be doing a live set as musical chairs with 'munk(8.3opm).h perhaps we should all join together in a mix! critical, lifesoundtrax, detronik. .i would hate to miss this one! hehe haha meighen From: synthetic detronik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] demf [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s-live pa Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 12:24:22 GMT Just wanted to take the opportunity to let people know this should be a really great show. we from detronik hope that everyone can make it out to see this show. for all you gear junkies and live pa enthusiasts heres what we are useing that night... TR-606 x2 TR-707 MC-202 SH-101 TB-303 MS-2000 (New Korg) Theremin kurzweil 2000...e (I hate samplers, however it is essential to sample some of our more fragile analogues) Speak and Spell Speak and Touch Talking Teacher This is our minimal set, sorry, not bringing 808, trying to prove something can be done with out it. I will be doing my crazy balanceing act of live drum machine manipulations, sure to get your head nodding and your butt moving. if your interested in my 606 mods and are in detroit, you oughta check it out. also, kind of ironic actually, meighen (silence823) my old partner and soon to be record label rep is also spinning that night... there is going to be some real energy this night. meighen is one of the best djs i know. hmmm, maybe we oughta join each other in a mix! p.s. we will have CDs up for sale... only $7! pehaps we will have a blue light up so you can find them. still working on the vinyl, very soon, very soon... ::.:::.:.:::..:..:::.::.:::.:.::..::.:.:..: visuals ~ experimental audio ~ toy - instrument expansion ...:::.:.:::.:.:::.:.:..:...:.:...:::.:.:...:.::.:.::.. ::create : recreate : alter::: ::synthetic - detroit ::detronik contact info::.:.::..:. p: 248.407.8283 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s: www.mp3.com/detronik Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] sonic sample list
At 24-5-00 + 13:52, you wrote: wondering, what ever happened to the rather good sonic samples guide found at: http://www.sonik.demon.nl/guide.html anyone? at least one of course.. it just dissolved into the void that is into forcefield, go http://www.forcefield.org and click the magnifying glass ___ forcefield | mindless entertainment http://www.forcefield.org _ __ ___
Re: [313] demf [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s-live pa
please do, this will make my night complete. From: Diana Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] demf [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s-live pa Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 09:18:08 PDT can i do the robot? From: meighen henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] demf [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s-live pa Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 09:10:36 PDT hjoin eachother in a mix? sounds like insane fun! i will also be doing a live set as musical chairs with 'munk(8.3opm).h perhaps we should all join together in a mix! critical, lifesoundtrax, detronik. .i would hate to miss this one! hehe haha meighen From: synthetic detronik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] demf [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s-live pa Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 12:24:22 GMT Just wanted to take the opportunity to let people know this should be a really great show. we from detronik hope that everyone can make it out to see this show. for all you gear junkies and live pa enthusiasts heres what we are useing that night... TR-606 x2 TR-707 MC-202 SH-101 TB-303 MS-2000 (New Korg) Theremin kurzweil 2000...e (I hate samplers, however it is essential to sample some of our more fragile analogues) Speak and Spell Speak and Touch Talking Teacher This is our minimal set, sorry, not bringing 808, trying to prove something can be done with out it. I will be doing my crazy balanceing act of live drum machine manipulations, sure to get your head nodding and your butt moving. if your interested in my 606 mods and are in detroit, you oughta check it out. also, kind of ironic actually, meighen (silence823) my old partner and soon to be record label rep is also spinning that night... there is going to be some real energy this night. meighen is one of the best djs i know. hmmm, maybe we oughta join each other in a mix! p.s. we will have CDs up for sale... only $7! pehaps we will have a blue light up so you can find them. still working on the vinyl, very soon, very soon... ::.:::.:.:::..:..:::.::.:::.:.::..::.:.:..: visuals ~ experimental audio ~ toy - instrument expansion ...:::.:.:::.:.:::.:.:..:...:.:...:::.:.:...:.::.:.::.. ::create : recreate : alter::: ::synthetic - detroit ::detronik contact info::.:.::..:. p: 248.407.8283 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s: www.mp3.com/detronik Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
DEMF/Hart Plaza Layout?
Hey, does anyone know of an online map with the specific layout for Hart Plaza? A friend and I are trying to agree on a good meeting spot... There is a fountain in the middle though, right? Maybe we'll just meet there... Can't believe I'm going to miss the entire first day's lineup plus the fabulous afterparties, but my stupid best friend decided to pick the Saturday before Memorial Day weekend to get married in Grand Rapids. Please don't tell me what I've missed... ; .John.
Re: [313] interstellar fugitives
Something happened on dollis hill is refering to(i think) 4 heros reinforced record studios which is in dollis hill NW london also in the cd sleeve(dont have it to hand) it says something about DEGO whos one half of 4 hero - Original Message - From: Seth Redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [313] interstellar fugitives petit histoire... Jamaica was one of the few islands in the West Indies which was large enough for slaves who escaped from the plantations to hide from the British. Protected to some extent by the religeously non-racist indigenous people (before they were wiped out altogether), the Maroons (derived from spanish Cimmaron -meaning the wild/untammed) became a tribe who repeatedly resisted the British attacks. (hence Maroon -suburban knight) regarding nannytown by UR, this is a town in Jamaica where Grandy Nanny was supposed to have lived. Actually a great military strategist, this chieftaness of the Maroons has become something of a folk heroine to todays jamaicans. The most famous story about her concerns one of the many attacks upon the town, in which nanny was reported to have taken the cannons and gunshots of the British into her punani, and fired them back at the Britishif only I knew girls who could do that. The CD seems to have more suggestive track titles as well (dollis hill, zero is my country), So I was wondering if this album had a wavejumpers-style concept behind it. if anyone knows for certain, I would love to know Seth The Electric Press From: Counterforce - Lay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Seth Redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] interstellar fugitives Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 12:48:09 +0100 Haye! I noticed that the interstellar fugitives album has songs called Nannytown and Maroon, presumably in reference to Nanny, the jamaican folk heroine. *** Can you tell me a bit more about this, or point me to a place where I can get some more info? I too have been intrigued by the titles, but I never had any clue *at all*. *** Thanks in advance. Id' realy appreciate it. Lay Um Império Tecnológico consolidado pela Necessidade http://barkingcat.org/counterforce Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
post demf where it's at
hidy ho detroit what's your pick for post demf saturday and/or sunday. Heading in from toronto, unfamiliar with underground locals, I don't want to miss out on something special by sticking with the names I know. Choices appear to be sat 430 west party 7th city threestyle2 disorderly conduct sun john acquaviva motormouth any others? Where is it at? thank you very much - Jenny
Re: [313] interstellar fugitives
I think mi raza means my people and what is being said in Negative Evolution sounds like his swearing or something well anyway im glad im not the only person who trys and decodes UR stuff (i even decoded the mose code on codebreaker) - Original Message - From: Counterforce - Lay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Seth Redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [313] interstellar fugitives Haye! The CD seems to have more suggestive track titles as well (dollis hill, zero is my country), So I was wondering if this album had a wavejumpers-style concept behind it. *** Zero is my Country seems to be about the Z-gene that leads to Negative Evolution. Z is short for Zero in the ISF notes inside the cover. *** Your explanation about the Maroons fits right into those notes. *** But this album is full of simbolisms. Zero is My Country starts like a space trip, hence Interstellar Fugitives. Then you have Afrogermanic standing for the Detroit-Berlin connection and you get to hear a plane taking off (simbolizing the trip from Detroit to Berlin). A bit more ahead in the track you hear something like Only U.R. knows in a very distorted voice. *** In Mi Raza, what does the vocal say? I can only figure out something like Que passa la casa or maybe Que passa la raza?. Does anyone know? *** This seems like the works that Mike would do, full of hidden things and everything with it meaning. I *ADORE* this album inside and out, and I'd be willing to have a discution with anyone who wants to talk about these symbols in UR's ISF. Lay Um Império Tecnológico consolidado pela Necessidade http://barkingcat.org/counterforce - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unsubscribing, but not for long
Hi fellow listmembers, Since I will be out of the office for about two weeks I'm unsubscribing because I'm afraid my mailbox might explode with all these lists and press agencies sending mails. I'll be back on Monday 5th! People who need to get in touch with me urgently can still reach out home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for some hours, but be fast! We're leaving tomorrow. See yall at Science on Friday (some even before!) Greetings to all and we'll have a super time!! John Osselaer
Last one before I go
Ok, I'm a bad 313-addict so here we go for a last message before I leave and unsubscribe for two weeks. Jeff Mills was to play on a big party in Holland this weekend but cancelled. This is 100% sure because it was a party by the magazine I write for. They are doing the annual awards with party kinda thingy so... Hmm, where could Jeff be heading. ?? Sorry for messing with everybody's head! John
RE: [313] interstellar fugitives
You are correct. The Reinforced studios are indeed at the wonderful Dollis Hill and as the R Solution crew of Marc,Dego and others have close contact with UR, I'm sure this must be where the reference comes from. Matt. -Original Message- From: Stewart Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 May 2000 17:32 To: Seth Redmond; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] interstellar fugitives Something happened on dollis hill is refering to(i think) 4 heros reinforced record studios which is in dollis hill NW london also in the cd sleeve(dont have it to hand) it says something about DEGO whos one half of 4 hero - Original Message - From: Seth Redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [313] interstellar fugitives petit histoire... Jamaica was one of the few islands in the West Indies which was large enough for slaves who escaped from the plantations to hide from the British. Protected to some extent by the religeously non-racist indigenous people (before they were wiped out altogether), the Maroons (derived from spanish Cimmaron -meaning the wild/untammed) became a tribe who repeatedly resisted the British attacks. (hence Maroon -suburban knight) regarding nannytown by UR, this is a town in Jamaica where Grandy Nanny was supposed to have lived. Actually a great military strategist, this chieftaness of the Maroons has become something of a folk heroine to todays jamaicans. The most famous story about her concerns one of the many attacks upon the town, in which nanny was reported to have taken the cannons and gunshots of the British into her punani, and fired them back at the Britishif only I knew girls who could do that. The CD seems to have more suggestive track titles as well (dollis hill, zero is my country), So I was wondering if this album had a wavejumpers-style concept behind it. if anyone knows for certain, I would love to know Seth The Electric Press From: Counterforce - Lay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Seth Redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] interstellar fugitives Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 12:48:09 +0100 Haye! I noticed that the interstellar fugitives album has songs called Nannytown and Maroon, presumably in reference to Nanny, the jamaican folk heroine. *** Can you tell me a bit more about this, or point me to a place where I can get some more info? I too have been intrigued by the titles, but I never had any clue *at all*. *** Thanks in advance. Id' realy appreciate it. Lay Um Império Tecnológico consolidado pela Necessidade http://barkingcat.org/counterforce Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313]may @ centro fly
anybody know if derek may showed at centro fly in new york last night? he was meant to go on at 11.30 (very early by nyc standards) but hadn't arrived at 1.30 when we left.
Re: [313] DEMF/Hart Plaza Layout?
Hey, does anyone know of an online map with the specific layout for Hart Plaza? A friend and I are trying to agree on a good meeting spot... There is a fountain in the middle though, right? Maybe we'll just meet there... no map, but there's a pretty good photo at http://www.ci.detroit.mi.us/photobook/hartplaza1.htm in the photo, you are facing north, the river is to your back (as well as one of the built-in ampitheaters) the floating donut fountain is definately a good place to meet someone - or the oblelisk. kbk Can't believe I'm going to miss the entire first day's lineup plus the fabulous afterparties, but my stupid best friend decided to pick the Saturday before Memorial Day weekend to get married in Grand Rapids. Please don't tell me what I've missed... ; .John. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Jeff Mills / Changes of Life
At 02:33 05/25/2000 +0900, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Well, me personally, I always thought it sounded like a tribute to D May's Strings Of Life. But then again, I could be wrong. I always thought that the changing pitch of the piano was representing the changes in everbody's life. But then again, I could be wrong as well :-) Grtz, Roland *=- Wees jezelf. Er zijn al zoveel anderen -- Loesje urL : http://www.mp3.com/scout303 urL : http://listen.to/scout maiL : scout[AT]tb-303[DOT]org icQ : 1D1243 (hexadecimal) -=*
Re: [313] The Rave Act (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 23:18:23 GMT From: Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] The Rave Act I live in Windsor which is, unfortunately, the home town of Sandra Pupatello, the one of the members of parliament that is initiating this bill. I also work for an afterhours club so I've experienced her campaign head on. Just an example of the type of person we're dealing with here: a) The owner of the club made numerous calls to her office in an effort to discuss her views and the club with her. Not only did she refuse to speak to him, her secretary flat out REFUSED TO TAKE A MESSAGE. Very professional. b)The owner decided to go to the office of the rave task force Ms. Pupatello set up. A MEMBER of the task force (supposedly made up of local government officials, school principles, etc.) said: We don't have a problem with people dancing. It's the MUSIC you play. It makes kids want to do drugs and has (get ready) SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES in it. These are the people we've elected to run our country...god help us. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pine mistake
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Re: [313]may @ centro fly
I wasn't there, but hear (from someone who had also left by then) that he arrived around 2:00. Original Message Follows From: James Bucknell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313]may @ centro fly Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 12:52:42 -0400 anybody know if derek may showed at centro fly in new york last night? he was meant to go on at 11.30 (very early by nyc standards) but hadn't arrived at 1.30 when we left. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
weekend weather
Looking at the detroit extended forecast and seeing chances of showers/tstorms on saturday sunday. I've only been to a couple of the blues jazz fests never experienced hart plaza in the rain- i hope this is not going to seriously fudge sh!t up. does anyone know what sort of provisions/precautions have been or can be made for this? -Peter
Re: [313] industrial
In a message dated 5/24/00 1:24:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AO, what have you got to say about old industrial stuff from way back when? I used to love industrial. Every summer in the mid-80's during the big Chicago Comicon (this was when I was a comic artist), we'd drive out to the old Wax Trax record shop in Chicago to get the new industrial wax. I was into Ministry, Front 242, Revolting Cocks, all of the Jourgensen/Barker side projects (Lead Into Gold, 1000 Homo DJs, etc.) My radio station got sent all the Wax Trax stuff too, so I kept up with all of it. Nettwerk was big with me too, with Skinny Puppy, Severed Heads and Moev (their first album). I interviewed Severed Heads. Nerds ! I used to play Single Gun Theory every week on my show, that was a fave. Those Stephen R. Gilmore album covers ! Every so often, I'd find the original European/Australian label copies of most of this stuff in different record shops. It was exciting because the track listings and art differed from territory to territory. For instance, the Red Rhino version of Front 242's Official Version was different from the Wax Trax pressing, which was different from the final Sony repress. Now with the EU and FedEx/DHL/UPS, and the advent of CDs all records are the same, everywhere. And with the Net, you can find anything. Aside: Does anyone have a copy of Baby Ford Ford Trax 2x12 on Rhythm King they wanna sell me ? I was a big fan of Factory, too, they were known for that. There are like a zillion different versions of Unknown Pleasures by Joy Division. I still have Section 25 Looking From a Hilltop (UK pressing), woefully out-of-print. A Certain Ratio's back catalogue was repressed a few years back by the late Creation label though. Front 242 was the direct influence for Underground Resistance. I was the opening DJ when they came to St. Andrews on their Front by Front tour, and Mills was there. They were straight-up terroriSoon after, Riot EP. Anybody remember Code Industry, the Black industrialists from Detroit who were on Antler-Subway back in '90 ? Well, before that, they were Code Assault, and they were on my label, Technika. That's how they got that deal. It was the first time I got fucked over in the music business, but not the last. Jeff did a b-side industrial remix on them for me that was the shit in its day. I haven't listened to it in ages. Blah Blah Blah. Alan
industrial..
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Re: [313] industrial
Hey Alan, You just unlocked a canister of memories. I still have most of those records you mentioned in my collection. I remember Code Industries. Section 25's Looking From The Hilltops still a fav of mine. Damn! Steve
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Re: [313] Just wondering
Kevin Michael Robbins,[EMAIL PROTECTED],internet writes: There's a dope rave called demf. I think Oakenfold and Sasha are headlining. See ya there. I heard Pete Tong was going to be riding around Hart Plaza on a tricycle, 45s stapled to his forehead, mouthing the words to Last night a DJ saved my Life and begging for loose change. Should be interesting.
RE: [313] industrial
Section 25's Looking From The Hilltops still a fav of mine. I don't think they're out on LP, but all the Section 25 albums have been reissued on CD with bonus tracks. The reissue of From The Hip has two remixes of Looking from a Hilltop plus six mixes of other songs. .John.
Re: [313] Just wondering
i think the backdoor, err rather backstreet boys are coming to town this weekend. I myself camped out all last night to get front row tickets for that dope ass rave group effeil tower 65, yeah they are performing at the hart plaza.see you there! From: Hugh G. Blaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [313] Just wondering Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 11:09:45 EDT Hey, is there anything good going on in Detroit this weekend? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
demf weather
http://www.weather.com/weather/us/zips/48301.html sat and sun aint gonna be pretty kids. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY
What is it with all you people pissing and moaning? Music is music in the eye of the beholder. I personally don't enjoy this type of music, but I don't criticize others for their chioce. Leave Gwen be and continue on with your narrow mindset...last time I checked this is a semi-free country we live in. Peace. d
DEMF problem solving
this is a time and geographically based email about getting to the DEMF for those who want to skip it I am going down to the DEMF after a weird last minute scheduling allowed for it, unfortunately I HAVE to be in Toronto very first thing(7 am) in the morning on Monday the 29th, so I miss that entire daythis sucks but between the first 2 days and the after parties, I'll see and hear more than enough real music to keep me happy for a long while . My problem lies in that the last train leaves at 5:30 on Sunday back to TO. This means I'd have to miss the dopest section of the event for me; the electro madness with Adult, Assault, ectomorph, etc. I REALLY REALLY would love to figure out some way to pull off staying to the end of the event on Sunday...does anybody from the windsor/detroit or Toronto area know anything about late night buses making the trip past or close to midnight? I'm thinking all the hard core gamblers might want to go till the last minute on the weekend or something. Any help would be appreciated. See you all soon! -jason GMOrecords http://www.genmod.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]
