Re: [313] industrial
since nitzer ebb got play on hawtin's mix cd, they've getting more attention and Mute is going to be doing some reissues soon. not sure what just yet but i bet they're be some new remixes popping up. kuri On last week's show (Equinox), I mixed in 12 remix of 242's Tyranny For You, on top of Mills Circus, and it actually sounded pretty good. This week I dug out the instrumental version of Murderous by Nitzer Ebb (check it out @ 42mins in) http://www.theiceberg.com/cgi-bin/1groove/playshow.cgi?equinox First 242 concert: In support of Official Version late 80's at small basement club called Nut's Bolt's. They had their industrial wasteland set up - all their electronic gear + various metallic objects; including a 6'x6' sheet of metal hanging from the low ceiling which Richard 23 would turn around and start wailing on with whatever he could get his hands on. They also had an oil drum flipped upside down, which was used for additional percussion + the grand finale - the old grinder into the side shooting sparks everywhere. Cheers, Gerald. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kuri Kondrak Resonance Magazine
demf cancellations/ me neither - influences
Couple 'o things:
1. I was told Isotope 217 and Laurent are
definitely off the bill. I do not know why. i
would like to know why jeff mills is not on the
lineup. i hope he just shows up somewhere.
2. The Orb was my real introduction to techno
music ('91's the orb's adventure's beyond the
ultraworld) as far as taking it to another level
and the first time i heard it, i did not
understand why there was so much talking,
samples, spaceships, etc.., i cringe everytime i
read my cd review i wrote while working at my
college newspaper . . . but i digress.
I would cite Depeche Mode as my earliest
influence, only because it was the first band
that truly got me interested in electronic
sounds, textures, etc. in music. the mid-'80s
stuff is what i got into, though it was after the
fact.
And i went from being a pseudo-metalhead to
loving depeche mode. as one might expect, my
friends at the time didn't really understand. i
made new friends soon after...
but i also was into a lot of wax trax and related
stuff including 242, front line assembly,
ministry, meat beat manifesto (who i think is
sorely underrated), PTP, acid horse, revolting
cocks, even NIN.
hell, i always thought the KLF were pretty good
cheeky fun.
K-L-F!!! uh-huh, uh-huh.
see ya'll this weekend.
dance til ya bleed with joy. i know i will.
timmmiP
detroit science [EMAIL PROTECTED] on
05/25/2000
05:12:43 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst)
Subject: [313] industrial vs. hip hop
a conversation that started between dave the
wave dresden
and i @ wmc this
year centered around how people got into the
scene, and i
started an
informal poll while i was down there. ratio?
about 60%
industrial, 40%
hip hop.
and one - neither. neither? his answer - heavy
metal.
hmmm
but those 2 avenues do seem to be the way that
just about
everyone got into the scene.
any other neithers?
me? hey, i can goth dance with the best of
'em... the
screwing in the
light bulb... the killing the cockroach... and
of course
the oh no the
sun.
g
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FW: [313] Tribal Gathering what happened???
-Original Message- From: FC3 Richards Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 11:28 AM To: 'Ben'; ', 313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: [313] Tribal Gathering what happened??? i have a tape from a couple of years ago that was recorded at tribal gathering. the first half is DJ Sneak spinning some really good tribal techno. the second half is Kraftwerk performing live. i must say that the live performance by them is way bettr then listening to them on CD. it was recorded live off the radio. when they get introduced, it isn't as kraftwerk, it was as the Men Machine. is this a way of them trying to trick us, or do they just use that as a way to have themselves introduced? anyway...if anyone can find a copy of this tape i highly suggest picking up a copy. i don't know if it is just a bootleg or an actual mix tape release. i just know somebody copied it for me and it fawkin rocks. later jeff -Original Message- From: Ben [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 9:08 AM To: 313 Subject: [313] Tribal Gathering what happened??? Does any of you remember/or go to any of the brilliant Tribal Gathering events In the UK, i believe it was promoted by universe+mean fiddler. I know that mean fiddler now does homelands/ or creamfields which has taken the place of this great event, and replaced it with mostly cheesy/commercialised event. Does anyone know if Universe still promotes and still has any interest in putting on another Tribal gathering in the UK? As there has not been a decent open air festival in the UK for some time. Thankyou. Ben
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RE: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks
i am somewhere in between industrial and finding a suprise in the record store. i was at a Harmony House in Flint (the one on miller road if anyone cares) looking through thier industrial and electronic music CD's. that is where i stumbled up a cd called Detroit: Beyond the Third Wave...it kinda captured my attention with the artwork and the subject matter. and besides that it was out on Asterlwerks, fatboy Slims label. so i figured it had to be good since Fatboy Slim is s damn popular (this was when going out of my mind was getting steady play on 120minutes and Amp) i read the back were it proceded to talk about detroit techno. i was like i wonder what this is like and i bought it. one of the best CD's i have ever bought. i learned alot from that CD. I still have a copy. and i am looking for a copy on vinyl. The Claude Young, K-Hand, Stacy Pullen, and Shake tracks are pure genius. it is one of the few CD's that i have that can manage to capture my attention and imagination still after all the times i have listened to it. i wish i had brought a copy with me...this boat ride is boring. oh, and there are a couple members from this list on it: T-1000 (AO, who also did the art work) and Sean Deason. great stuff guys... -Original Message- From: detroit science [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 2:13 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] industrial vs. hip hop a conversation that started between dave the wave dresden and i @ wmc this year centered around how people got into the scene, and i started an informal poll while i was down there. ratio? about 60% industrial, 40% hip hop. and one - neither. neither? his answer - heavy metal. hmmm but those 2 avenues do seem to be the way that just about everyone got into the scene. any other neithers? me? hey, i can goth dance with the best of 'em... the screwing in the light bulb... the killing the cockroach... and of course the oh no the sun. g mailing list http://www.onelist.com/community/detroitscience science office 313-534-7420 science fax 313-534-5155 mobile 313-790-7300 pager 800-200-5176 www.detroitscience.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paul Johnson in Grand Rapids
Paul Johnson, Saturday June 17th at Devos Hall in Grand Rapids. Supposedly this event is going to feature other DJ's as well, I have no idea whom. Can anyone help me out with additional info? I think tickets are like $20. Thanks Matt E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://magicmattkelly.tripod.com
RE: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks
twas written: learned alot from that CD. I still have a copy. and i am looking for a copy on vinyl. The Claude Young, K-Hand, Stacy Pullen, and Shake tracks are pure genius. I have tried and tried to get it on vinyl and have been told that it isn't available on vinyl and that it wasn't even pressed. I want that damned excellent K.Hand track on vinyl. I still can't figure out the end of the sample. 'come on now baby ...?can't u see that i..? Shouldn't matter what it's saying but for years i've been curious. :) Emma mee-thod
Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop
a conversation that started between dave the wave dresden and i @ wmc this year centered around how people got into the scene, and i started an informal poll while i was down there. ratio? about 60% industrial, 40% hip hop. and one - neither. neither? his answer - heavy metal. hmmm Ha! I was going to write a facetious post referencing the Krokus and Dokken diss (I admit I was down with these guys as well as Saxon and Manowar) a few days back as far as industrial and influence. I have been surprised by the extent of love for industrial 313 has. Industrial was what made me take so long to come around to loving this musicTo me, it's everything detroit isn't; angsty, soulless, and whiny, plus the sounds stink. the funk just ain't there. It seems some of the biggest detroit names love(d) it so I'm obviously not correct on this, but industrial and trance are the only genres in any type of music I've never found a redeeming quality inI came around to techno thru ambient groups and crossover bands like My Bloody Valentine. my boring 2 cents -jason GMOrecords http://www.genmod.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I believe you's lookin' for the CD reissues..? are you purposely trying to give me a heartattack?!! what label??? sean gotta stop living in the 80's deason ... they would be put out by LTM ... under their Black Box Series... The one _I_ really need is the Section 25-Live In America Europe 1982 which was originally intended as an official Factory release but now sees the light of day as a limited edition of 500 copies... n.p.: The Final Concert- Marvin Gaye, J. E. v. F-B. B.
Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks
In a message dated 5/25/00 8:40:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a conversation that started between dave the wave dresden and i @ wmc this year centered around how people got into the scene, and i started an informal poll while i was down there. ratio? about 60% industrial, 40% hip hop. I don't see how anybody, fan or producer, can come into techno via hip-hop. Except for Shake. Techno, at least Detroit Techno, is the antithesis of hip-hop to me, Ghettotech notwithstanding =\ The Depeche Mode/Kraftwerk-into-Industrial-into-Techno progression I can see though. == Play Loud. Spin Hard. Log On. www.puresonikrecords.net
Third Wave was: industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks
In a message dated 5/25/00 10:37:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have tried and tried to get it on vinyl and have been told that it isn't available on vinyl and that it wasn't even pressed. They lied, vinyl was pressed. Want an autographed copy ? =) a. === Play Loud. Spin Hard. Log On. www.puresonikrecords.net
Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks
I don't see how anybody, fan or producer, can come into techno via hip-hop. Speedy J? Ben Sims? (not sure about Ben...)
Re: [313] demf cancellations/ me neither - influences
Why isn't Aphex Twin, Rob Hood, Jay Denham, Speedy J, or Carl Craig on the bill either? Cause you don't always get everything you want (and because there are going to be two more demf's) i would like to know why jeff mills is not on the lineup. i hope he just shows up somewhere.
Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks
I don't see how anybody, fan or producer, can come into techno via hip-hop. ummm, actually it was a little bit more of a general scene question than specifically techno - more dance music in general. and, i realize that breaking it down to industrial or hip hop oversimplified the issue, but i wasn't interested in 25-point essay answers while screaming into someone's ear at level. unless of course, i was trying to scope out some cleavage, in which case she could has yelled in my ear all night long. :^) woof woof. g Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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I assume that Carl isn't on the bill because he's one of the chief planners, and would rather be on the trouble shooting team than anything else --- Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assistant Professor, Political Science Washington University at St. Louis Strive for excellence in all you do, that no fault may be found in your character ---
slight changes... of course
we've been trying to work out the detronik live pa, but due to scheduling conflicts it appears that micho will have to blow up his equipment and set himself ablaze some other time. damn. it's such a shame, my ceilings are tall enough for his fire-breathing stunts. so, the time slots in the dance have shifted forward by half an hour. would anyone object to a suprise guest appearance for the 9 pm - 10 pm? michael donaldson aka q-burns abstract message(astralwerks) was booked to play a party by carl of oneworld/abc/studio 95/channel 2 fame. the party was canceled, but since the plane tickets were already bought michael will be chilling in the d friday night. i haven't asked him yet, and of course if there is someone that wants to jump in that time slot let me know and we'll fill it with a listmember. he will be hanging out with us and getting happy - he's a great guy and has a pretty quirky sense of humor and i'm kinda glad that he got stranded in the d for the night cuz i haven't hung with him for a while. so, if anyone wants the spot email me... g DANCE 9 PM 10 PM? 10 PM - 11 PM CYBORG K LIVE 11 PM 12 AM IZADE DJ 12 AM 1 AMO-ZONE LIVE 1 AM 2 AM NOVA - DJ 2 AM 3 AM PHRED - DOWNTEMPO 3 AM 4 AM TRISTAN - DOWNTEMPO 4 AM 5AM HORSEPOWER - DOWNTEMPO FRONT 9 PM - 10 PM EQUINOX - TECHNO 10 PM 11 PM JOSH HOUSE/TECHNO 11 PM 12 AM HYPERVINYL JWAN ALLEN 12 AM 1 AMHYPERVINYL SHAWN RUDIMAN - LIVE 1 AM 2 AM SEAN LIVING IN THE 80'S DEASON 2 AM 3 AM ROB DOWNTEMPO 3 AM 4 AM GERALD - DOWNTEMPO 4 AM 5AM SILENCE - DOWNTEMPO Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop
best mutation of hip-hop IMO is dig it by skinny puppy. i confess i've been a fan since the remission ep... if i'm asked i'll totally disavow any knowledge of this admission. ;) sanderson Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] demf cancellations/ me neither - influences
Somehow I expect CC to make a performing appearance at his own festival. Meantime, to heck with the next DEMF, when there's the Gathering of the Juggalos just two short months away!
in tha D
United Airlines knew how much I lurve the concourse at O'Hare so I got four extra hours FREE!!! there tonight on my way in but here I am at the Atheneum . . . anyone up for lunch ? I know Matrix is on his way but don't know who/where the rest of y'all are. phred
FW: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks
-Original Message- From: FC3 Richards Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 10:17 PM To: 'Emma Groube' Subject: RE: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks how about come on now baby, can't you see them, open wide as in your eyesthat is what i think it is...it was pressed. i have a friend who has it. also i talked to a represenative from astrelwerks about getting a copy, they pretty much said good luck. kinda sucks jeff -Original Message- From: Emma Groube [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 7:37 PM To: FC3 Richards Cc: 'detroit science'; '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks twas written: learned alot from that CD. I still have a copy. and i am looking for a copy on vinyl. The Claude Young, K-Hand, Stacy Pullen, and Shake tracks are pure genius. I have tried and tried to get it on vinyl and have been told that it isn't available on vinyl and that it wasn't even pressed. I want that damned excellent K.Hand track on vinyl. I still can't figure out the end of the sample. 'come on now baby ...?can't u see that i..? Shouldn't matter what it's saying but for years i've been curious. :) Emma mee-thod
nu groove
is there a easy way of getting into the nu groove series, ie compliation cds or likes? looking to get my hands on: LB Bad - The Prince of Dance Music (any format) thanks jason
Re: [313] Tribal Gathering what happened???
On Thu, 25 May 2000 18:08:03 +0200, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: [313] Tribal Gathering what happened??? Does any of you remember/or go to any of the brilliant Tribal Gathering events In the UK, i believe it was promoted by universe+mean fiddler. I know that mean fiddler now does homelands/ or creamfi lds which has taken the place of this great event, and replaced it with mostly cheesy/commercialised event. Does anyone know if Universe still promotes and still has any interest in putting on anot er Tribal gathering in the UK? As there has not been a decent open air festival in the UK for some time. Thankyou. Ben If you can make it up to Scotland, the Slam tent at T in the Park is definitely worth the journey: Saturday 8th July Derrick May Kevin Saunderson presents E-Dancer (Live) DJ Rolando DJ Sneak Gene Farris Roger Sanchez Junior Sanchez (not for me but who I am) Funk D'Void (Live) Sunday 9th July Slam Carl Cox Jim Masters Andrew Weatherall Darren Emerson James Lavelle Universal Principles ... + some other I can't remember Saturday is the one for me, strong D line-up might compensate for my being unable to get to the DEMF. Those of you going have the top weekend that the occasion deserves and get back on list next week with every detail of the weekend for those less fortunate that yourselves!! Peace Respect, Niall. PS. I'm right excited about going to Slam's Pressure tonight at The Arches in Glasgow. Line up: DJ Rolando, Luke Slater (Live), David Alvarado, Cari Lekebusch and, of course, the Slam boys...just had to tell you as I can't do any work today just thinking about it!! ))\ )) o ___ )) )) (( \(( (( ((_(, (( ((...
Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop
Indie music; New Order, Primal scream, Andy Weatherall, and (you're all gonna hate me for this one) Oakenfold's remixes of the Happy Mondays. That and seeing Orbital live for the first time. Oh and I'm from liverpool, so I shouldn't miss out Groovy Train by The Farm, ...ha ha ha Not as unusual as your route, James. Just one question; Which habit is more expensive? Seth Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] nu groove
Jason wrote: is there a easy way of getting into the nu groove series, ie compliation cds or likes? looking to get my hands on: LB Bad - The Prince of Dance Music (any format) There's at least one comp on vinyl; Nu groove the compilation out of Nu groove Italy (???). Not sure what the exact title was. I think Elbee Bad was on it... True story of house music. That single is also easy to get: There was/is some copies circulating in the specialized shops (Hardwax, Sonic Groove, Mind records etc.) Another vinyl comp from '90 / '91 I remember was from Network. There's a neat story and interview about the founders of Nu groove and a discography. Proffit Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: [313] nu groove
Well, there's a set of 3 compilations (plus some Best Of CDs from some of the Nu Groove roaster) available on Hot, but that track isn't on any of them, AFAIK. (What is that track, anyway? It doesn't ring a bell.) There were also 2 Network CD compilations of Nu Groove stuff, but... Good luck finding those! Maybe used @ hard-to-find in the UK, or maybe someone still lists it on Gemm. Try Sonic Groove, they still have a good number of Nu Groove releases. At least that's what it says on their web site. Good luck! Sqrrt. -Original Message- From: Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 11:01 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] nu groove is there a easy way of getting into the nu groove series, ie compliation cds or likes? looking to get my hands on: LB Bad - The Prince of Dance Music (any format) thanks jason - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Here Comes That Sound Again, a 4CD Box compiled by Neil Rushton which came out 2 years back. W From: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] nu groove Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 11:00:54 is there a easy way of getting into the nu groove series, ie compliation cds or likes? looking to get my hands on: LB Bad - The Prince of Dance Music (any format) thanks jason - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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So far no one has mentioned what to me is one of the most overlooked bands ever: Propaganda! A German outfit that put out two albums on Trevor Horn's ZTT (including a remix album, Wishful Thinking) in the mid-80s and did the song Dr Mabuse. This record still sounds ace. And they had industrial/techno overtones! The sleeve notes, concepts, artwork, everything are amazing. I just found their remix album (the remixes are called 'disturbdances') by chance a few weeks ago in a second-hand record store and could hardly contain myself. I play their stuff all the time!!
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Re: [313] demf cancellations/ me neither - influences
How come DJ T1000 is not at the DEMF?? Booked somewhere else that weekend? I sure hope so, Roger --
Re: [313] nu groove
there's a nu groove compilation cd--i can't remember how many disks--2 or 3, i think. don't know if that track is on it. it was released in the last two years and should be easy to get. there are also a couple of nu groove vinyl compilations that don't seem that hard to come across (at least in new york). james Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/26/2000 07:00:54 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: [313] nu groove is there a easy way of getting into the nu groove series, ie compliation cds or likes? looking to get my hands on: LB Bad - The Prince of Dance Music (any format) thanks jason - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pitch Adj. info
Message from Pitch Adj. Hi all. Thought this could be of interest to you. We are setting up a brand new DJ community site very soon and we would like to share it with you. This will be the numer 1 site today that deals with the music and lifestyle we have all grown to love. Unlike all other dj communitys we specialize in electronic dancemusic in all it's shapes and forms. May it be hip hop (hey they use samples), house, techno or drum bass. At the first beta launch July 1st, the content will be; 1. The DJ database. Add your DJ info so that you can be found by the promoters out there. Upload a picture and audiofile. You can log in at a later time and change your info as it changes. 2. The Live act/artist database. Add your artist info so that you can be found by the promoters and labels out there. Upload a picture and audiofile. You can log in at a later time and change your info as it changes. 3. Add a party date. The promoters out there can add info about their upcoming partys and the visitors can search for them. 4. Add a party review. Have you been to a great party/club? Wan't to tell the rest of the world about it? This is the place to be. 5. Add a new record release. Registered recordlabels can add info about their upcoming releases. Visitors can then search the base to find the info they need to get out to the store in get'em. 6. Add a recordreview. Have you just bought a great record? Why not tell the rest of the world about it? 7. Add your top 10 chart. Next to the main sections above you can read som interesting articles by some of the best known names in the bizz, chat we people who love the music as much as you do, discuss in the message board and much more. --- We are also looking for distributors, vinyl and cd manufacturers in the USA, clothes manufacturers (club and street), recordlabels, clubpromoters, clubowners, dj equipment stores and much more to partner up with. Do you do anything of this or know anyone who does it, please send us the contact info. Do you want to join as a contributor/editor and help writing interesting articles? Just drop us a mail. This was all from me at this point. If you want to receive updates on what's happening in the future? Just drop by www.pitchadj.com and sign up for our newsletter. Thanks for listening and much peace and respect. Pat - pitchadj.com
third wave (was RE: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks
i picked up a vinyl copy last month at sonic groove in new york. i was quite surprised. i too had been told there was no vinyl release. but now i know better. just love that kosmic messenger track. i also like it that the claude young track was recorded in australia. james Emma Groube [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/25/2000 10:37:02 PM To: FC3 Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 'detroit science' [EMAIL PROTECTED], '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org (bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: RE: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks twas written: learned alot from that CD. I still have a copy. and i am looking for a copy on vinyl. The Claude Young, K-Hand, Stacy Pullen, and Shake tracks are pure genius. I have tried and tried to get it on vinyl and have been told that it isn't available on vinyl and that it wasn't even pressed. I want that damned excellent K.Hand track on vinyl. I still can't figure out the end of the sample. 'come on now baby ...?can't u see that i..? Shouldn't matter what it's saying but for years i've been curious. :) Emma mee-thod - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
minx
Is the DJ Minx being mentioned the same as the DJ Minx who hosted the Deep Space radio show in Detroit? environ * 73 mandeville drive * wayne, NJ 07470-6566 * USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.webspan.net/~environ
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yep, it sure is.
Re: [313] demf cancellations/ influences Politics
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I really like this, can we have a seven degreees of Techno game? I choose Punk Hardcore. I was in Germany at a giant open air fest called Strange Noise in the Black Forest in Germany to see a couple Hardcore bands (Snapcase and Rikers I believe) The first night was a big silly rave party. I know quite a few kids in Detroit who were into punk throughout their teens and suddenly got into techno. None of us liked ravers though. I think it had something to do with the beats. Don't forget that Motor used to be the Falcon Club, one of my favorite places to be during high school. And theres a semi-fabled history at St. Andrews for both music forms. The more I think about it the more similarities pop up. ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp
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Sunday June 28th... Transmat invites you to a night of aural escapes @ CPOP Gallery 4160 Woodward Ave. Music by Derrick May, Stacey Pullen, Reggie Dokes and Special Guests 21 to Drink $10 w/invite more without The venue is quite small so hurry over. The party is across the street from the Planet E party so be sure to check us both out. Come and say hello at DEMF and grab and invitation Thank you all for your support Derrick O. and all at Transmat
Voorn Discog/4Hero UR
Plus these 2: Orlando Voorn Introduces (MAZZO) - 1998 dj mix on an Amsterdam club label Redeye (Boudisque) - late 1999 Check this site for a nice overview of his career including the tracklisting to the Redeye album and discog. http://www.boudisque.nl/bourecording/Voorinfo/Voorninfo/OVbioENG9910.htm BTW: the track on Interstellar Fugitives, 'Something Happened on Dollis Hill' by The Infiltrator, repays the compliment 4Hero paid to Submerge on their Earth Pioneers ep with '2030 Grand River'. It's only 1:15, but they make every second count... Cheers, Wes
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Re: [313] demf cancellations/ influences Politics
Here is the Essay on Alan Oldham for those of you who don't have access to the Web. Uninvited: An Essay by Alan Oldham A lot of people have asked/e-mailed me if I'm playing the DEMF, so I'm announcing here that I am not. I was not invited to perform at this event. I got a very odd phone call from Mr. Craig (I didn't know he even had my phone number) telling me that there would always be next year's event, and pointing out that he wasn't playing himself. You can't really argue with that point. I was somewhat mollified by this, until I saw the full line-up, released two days after I spoke with him. Taking nothing away from the talent that ended up filling the open slots, I think I've contributed more to the Detroit legend here in our own city than many of the names that I saw on the talent list. I forget exactly how I met Carl Craig. I do remember when he, in 1988, came over to my grandmother's house to let me hear some halting guitar stuff that he'd eked together on his music teacher's four-track recorder at school, in a bid to get me to play it on the radio. He was trying to sound like 4AD. This is even before he'd hooked up with Derrick May. Far from a Techno Legend, just a kid with a borrowed four-track. On my radio show, Fast Forward, I supported his first releases (recorded on Derrick's gear at his Techno Boulevard loft while he was out of the country) as Psyche and BFC on Transmat. I still love those records and even played Crack- down out until recently. I did some art for one of his Retroactive records, I forget which one. A year after that, in 1991, I was the very first to play a strange white label he'd given me: 4 Jazz/Funk Classics by 69, the first Planet E release. At that time, he didn't want anybody to know it was him. Similarly, I was not invited to attend the 430 West Ten Year Anniversary luncheon, taking place during the same Memorial Day weekend as DEMF. I didn't even know about it until a local ghettotech DJ, Disco D, told me. It seems he was invited. I was very hurt by this oversight even more than the DEMF snub mainly because I consider the Burden Brothers friends. I have played and supported their records from the beginning (well, the 430 stuff, not the Direct Beat records). They don't live far from me here in Northwest Detroit. I was over at their house a couple of months ago ! We shared the same distributor up until recently. I valued their insights into the business and our long conversations about music. I have known the Burden Brothers since before they stumbled ass-backwards (via their friendship with Anthony Shakir) into being included on the Virgin/10 compilation Techno 2: The Next Generation (1989). They didn't know anybody in the scene besides Shake. The only reason I even knew them at all was because they lived two doors down from this chick I hung out with back in the late 80s named Karen Fox (she helped me do the original label art for K. Alexi Shelby's All for Leesah record on Transmat). Marc Kinchen's track Love Take Me Over as Area 10 was the big choice off that compilation to the succeed Inner City's smash hit single Big Fun off the previous, landmark Techno : The New Dance Sound of Detroit record (Virgin/10. 1988), but Octave One's I Believe turned out to be the real hit. Derrick May himself brought the reel-to-reel down to WDET for me to play it before it was even pressed (this was the episode where Derrick went nuts on-air during our interview and I kicked him out of the studio; anybody got a tape of that show ?). Thanks to its lyrics, it became a big local hit thanks to my show, getting many phone requests every week, selling records at Record Time and putting the Burdens on the map, much to the chagrin of May, who never even liked the track even though it sounded like something that he would have made himself. The only reason I Believe was even included on the comp was because Neil Rushton of Network/Kool Kat personally liked it, even to the point of releasing it as a single in the UK. The Burdens then spent the next few years hounding Transmat for their money. (For the record, my involvement with the Techno 2 comp, besides playing it on WDET, was that I did the album cover art, which was rejected by Virgin). They went on to form 430 West around '91, releasing hits from Jay Denham as Vice and Eddie Flashin Fowlkes, both of which I supported. Their mix of Jaguar is the one I play out ! I am fully booked for Memorial Day weekend, as you can see by the calendar of events, and have been since February at least. Would have been nice to have been asked to participate in my own hometown festivities, though. This is where having a global profile, as opposed to strictly local, comes in handy. This was fun ! I'm gonna have to write a book. I've got dirt on everybody. If the above is any indication, it will be the anti-Techno Rebels. Slash and burn politics. Hey, Tim Barr, wanna help write it ? --Alan
RE: [313] demf cancellations/ me neither - influences
yup...booked at a party called Whistle 3 being thrown by Local 13...its in Philly. jeff -Original Message- From: Roger John Lesinski Jr [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 7:44 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] demf cancellations/ me neither - influences How come DJ T1000 is not at the DEMF?? Booked somewhere else that weekend? I sure hope so, Roger -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Slam in the Park
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Niall [EMAIL PROTECTED] messed around with filters and compression to make the sounds now known as: If you can make it up to Scotland, the Slam tent at T in the Park is definitely worth the journey: Saturday 8th July Derrick May Kevin Saunderson presents E-Dancer (Live) DJ Rolando DJ Sneak Gene Farris Roger Sanchez Junior Sanchez (not for me but who I am) This i'm sure is DJ Sneak Gene Farris vs Sanchez Sanchez Funk D'Void (Live There's also Tom Middleton on this day. Sunday 9th July Slam Carl Cox Jim Masters The same ad that i've seen shows it as Slam vs Carl Cox Jim Masters Andrew Weatherall Darren Emerson James Lavelle Universal Principles + some other I can't remember Death In Vegas Live (+ Special Guests T.B.C.), perhaps ;) Saturday is the one for me, strong D line-up might compensate for my being unable to get to the DEMF. Those of you going have the top weekend that the occasion deserves and get back on list next week with every detail of the weekend for those less fortunate that yourselves!! Peace Respect, Niall. I dunno how it's gonna be worked out, but it'd be nice to see Derrick vs Rolando perhaps. TTFN, -- Tom Lawton
Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks
From: Tom Lawton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 Detroit Techno Mailing List 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] industrial vs. hip hop and Astrelwerks Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 20:18:35 +0100 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] messed around with filters and compression to make the sounds now known as: I don't see how anybody, fan or producer, can come into techno via hip-hop. Speedy J? Ben Sims? (not sure about Ben...) Dave Clarke was a hip-hop DJ before he turned to all things techno, and that'd definately explain his wikkid turntablesque skills of late. TTFN, -- Tom Lawton ICQ:21604785 A penny saved is ridiculous - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Autechre have also cited hip hop as their earliest influence, esp. Mantronix and the Mantronik produced Just Ice album. Title of this one escapes me. Was it Back To the Old School? One of my adolescence hallmarks (among others ;) ), listening to that stuff... Jorge www.mp3.com/milkish Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: [313] DEMF 'Hurt Feelings'
could someone please post Alan's essay...i don't have the convienence of the internet out here at sea. i would like to read it. everything the man says seems too be interesting and on point. thanks ahead of time. jeff -Original Message- From: Kent williams [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 10:19 AM To: 313 list Subject: [313] DEMF 'Hurt Feelings' and Alan's essay at http://www.puresonikrecords.net/
Re: [313] fishbones fri nite
and while at Fishbones, dont forget to say hello to my cousin Ellis King for me. he's the manager there :^) sean deason detroit science wrote: miss diana asked me to post this... fishbone's 9:30 pm reservation for 15 under diana potts/313 her mobile 917-520-9737 Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- sean deason matrix records p.o. box 343 dearborn, mi 48121-0343 ph/fax: 313.582.3410 cell: 313.522.3505 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] profile: seandeason.metrotimes.com
