Chain Reaction Kru

2000-06-03 Thread Ryan Heard
I don't know, for the life of me, how anyone cannot comprehend the beauty
and brilliance of Chain Reaction/BC et al (Scion w/ Tikiman at the DEMF).
Of course, I understand not everyone will like the same things and they're
entitled to their opinions but... I've been watching/listening to the
archived performance for some time now and am floored as usual.  I still
can't believe this stuff comes from "ordinary" human beings (which I suppose
makes them extraordinary).  Brilliant music that celebrates everything I
find fragile, beautiful, and truly important in life, this world, and
beyond...


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Re: [313] St.Andy's Next Saturday...

2000-06-03 Thread detroit science

I think this is pretty disturbing party. Very enigmatic stuff. Some of
these kids are playing live for the first time, and some of them might be 
>really fantastic. >To me it seems like a fucking awesome idea that's 
gotten into the wrong >hands.
well, i know the promoter pretty well, and one of the reasons that he was 
attempting an all live-pa event was because most of the guys on his label, 
emp records, play out live all the time.  he decided that there were prolly 
a lot of up-and-coming producers that deserved a chance, and started working 
on the concept of an all live pa event.  different concept, could work - or 
it couldn't.


What made the promoters of this turn it into candy rave massive? Are all 
>these tweaked out highschoolers even going to care that something like 
>this has neer been pulled off in detroit history?
they're promoting this event just like they promote all of their other 
events.  "gotta catch 'em all" or "jiggly puff" didn't come to the lists' 
attention because they were exactly that - candy raver parties.  he wanted 
to do something different and in a legal venue, hence st. andy's, esp 
because of all of the gear that will be there.  his production on the night 
should be alright, and he does actually give a shit about the kids.  adding 
kevin and juan to the lineup was kinda an afterthought to the live concept, 
to appeal to a broader and possibly older crowd that would like to see kevin 
and juan, but not at a dirty illegal rave.  to tell the truth, if it was at 
an illegal venue i don't think he would have put kevin and juan on the bill, 
but going into a legal venue cuts out part of the crowd and therefore he 
needed to draw in a different segment of the crowd.  as for juan showing up, 
they had lunch yesterday and juan is paid up and has said that he has every 
intention of being there.  we'll see what happens with flights the day of, 
though.


i'll swing through and check it out, i don't know if they're planning on 
recording the sets.


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RE: [313] WTF is Garage anyway?

2000-06-03 Thread Eric Iverson
> that big fist my friend is the one and only Joe Lewis

Not Lewis, Louis! Joe Lewis was a champion kickboxer.
Joe Louis was a champion boxer from Detroit.


--Eric


Re: [313] Richie Rich

2000-06-03 Thread Phonopsia
I felt exactly the same way when he played for four hours in Iowa City.
Unfortunately I missed him @ DEMF, although I guess I didn't miss much??? I
posted this about Adam Beyer after seeing T1000 and Hawtin here, but it's
mostly about Hawtin:

>>> this whole discussion reminds me of how I felt about Hawtin and
DJ-T1000 when I saw them in Iowa City on separate occasions this spring. I
haven't heard Beyer spin, but hear he's very good. However, if it's anything
like Hawtin (who is undeniably a technical master), I think I would have the
same longing for some kind of melody and drum loops that last more than a
bar. As I understand it, this is typical of the European techno DJing style.
I don't even feel motivated to dance once the drone sets in. Since seeing
Alan spin, I've read his posts with a sense of awe, in that he tends to be
the designated advocate for beating techno sets, but his performance here
was as funky as any I've heard (I think he clarifies his feelings on this
below). He plays music with a funk core, but still tends to have aggressive
beats. I did not get the same feeling from Hawtin at all. While I can marvel
at what he doing with the raw materials, I don't particularly care for them.
Seeing him spin was very cerebral for me, but I don't suspect this would be
true for a non-DJ, or someone who doesn't know what it takes to create
flawlessly at that speed. I think I have a pretty unusual feeling about
this, because it's not often that beats will make me dance. I have to be
into the music on some mental level before my body will respond. However, I
have a purely artistic interest in watching and listening to someone beat
records I don't care for, and tend to enjoy this without dancing. Weird?<<<

Tristan
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-Original Message-
From: Peter B Leidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org>
Date: Saturday, June 03, 2000 2:41 PM
Subject: [313] Richie Rich


>Okay, I was hoping somebody would have brought this up already so that I
>wouldnt have to- but as nobody has really tackled it, and I think it needs
>some attention:
>
>Was anyone else disappointed with mr hawtins set to close the demf?
>
>I cant speak on the entire performance because I left after the first hour
>out of boredom, but that was some of the most boring 4ontheFloor 909 stuff
>I've heard in a while. I dont remember a single bassline in any of the
>tracks. Most of the synth stuff from the vinyl got buried under the 909
>kick/snare/hihat/ride -which i believe someone did mention briefly as
>perhaps a fault of the sound engineer. The builds and snare rolls were
>cheesy and formulated crowd pleasers and I think even the crowd was
>getting bored of them after the first five or six.
>
>Now I hate badmouthing mr hawtin, as i have heard and seen him do plenty
>of great things for the music community, and I have enjoyed a handful
>of his sets via detroit parties around '94-95. It was even quite
>impressive watching him juggle all his stuff at demf and do 909
>programming on the fly, but the outcome just seemed pretty boring. Not
>even any of those trademark plastikman funky rimshot rhythms. just
>kick,snare,hihat,ride- w/ very little variety in the different beats.
>
>Perhaps I am missing something conceptually behind this 'cause I dont
>really know anything about his ideas for doing the decks/efx/909 thing,
>and I may be overlooking some fundamental part to this stuff- I've never
>been too into the bangin' 4ontheFloor stuff as much anyways- so perhaps
>I'm not the best critic of it.
>
>I think just after hearing a lot of great music from derrick w/ plenty of
>soul and tribally rhythm stuff going on, the 909 just couldn't follow it
>up for me.
>
>comments please...
>
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Fw: [iacitybeats] 411 on 313?

2000-06-03 Thread Phonopsia
Hey all, another Iowa Citian who attended DEMF has a question (below) about
the CPOP stage Sunday night. Anyone know the answer? I was @ the Main stage
at the time.

Tristan
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Subject: [iacitybeats] 411 on 313?


>beats & rhymes society - Local Scene Info:
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>
>
>To those of you at DEMF, any info on guys who took
>over the C-pop stage Sunday night?  A cheesepuff came
>out with two DJs, guy from Miami who was decent and
>this other guy Drew, outta nowhere.  Any word?  Dude
>had the crowd absolutely crazy!
>
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Re: [313] silver apples

2000-06-03 Thread Ryan Delahanty
Seth:

Silver Apples were/are incredible. I haven't been able to find much (any) 
of their new stuff, but Brave New Waves covered them as a featured band
back in April or March. Check the BNW website
(http://www.radio.cbc.ca/programs/bnw/bnw.html) and tune in M-F 12:10-4AM
for rather innarestin' and experimental muzak.

sorry to digress, detroit.

your righteous simian brother,

rxdx 


> Sorry about this, way off topic, but if we can talk about Genesis P-orridge 
> then I reckon I can squeeze this in:
> 
> Does anyone know anything about the new Silver Apples material which was has 
> apparently been coming out for about a year? I had heard rumours that they 
> were going to be working with DJ Hell and a few other notables (which may 
> add some much-needed balls to their work).
> 
> In fact while I'm writing, I also heard that Hell had recorded a version of 
> "A Pox on You" so if anyone knows where to find that...
> Any help would be much appreciated.
> 
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Re: [313] Richie Rich

2000-06-03 Thread Minto Chempotical George
On Sat, 3 Jun 2000, Peter B Leidy wrote:

> Okay, I was hoping somebody would have brought this up already so that I
> wouldnt have to- but as nobody has really tackled it, and I think it needs
> some attention:
> 
> Was anyone else disappointed with mr hawtins set to close the demf?

yes, I agree. I wasn't into richie's set either. He played in total 3
tracks that got my head bobbin' and they were songs that I've heard many
times...vainquer, 69 and vapourspace. I thought out of respect they would
let dmay play last. The crowd was into it nontheless, but I think richie
would have impressed me and others more if he played music with melodies
and deeper songs that were more than just 2 bar loops which he pretty much
played. Taking nothing away from richie, I've heard rich play great house
music for 3 hours with unreal acid tracks and techno by armando, mike dunn
and phuture. listen to some of those archives...people like shake, theo
parrish, buzz goree, and fannon flowers played more interesting sets.

minto




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Richie Rich

2000-06-03 Thread Peter B Leidy
Okay, I was hoping somebody would have brought this up already so that I
wouldnt have to- but as nobody has really tackled it, and I think it needs
some attention:

Was anyone else disappointed with mr hawtins set to close the demf?

I cant speak on the entire performance because I left after the first hour
out of boredom, but that was some of the most boring 4ontheFloor 909 stuff
I've heard in a while. I dont remember a single bassline in any of the
tracks. Most of the synth stuff from the vinyl got buried under the 909
kick/snare/hihat/ride -which i believe someone did mention briefly as
perhaps a fault of the sound engineer. The builds and snare rolls were
cheesy and formulated crowd pleasers and I think even the crowd was
getting bored of them after the first five or six.

Now I hate badmouthing mr hawtin, as i have heard and seen him do plenty
of great things for the music community, and I have enjoyed a handful  
of his sets via detroit parties around '94-95. It was even quite
impressive watching him juggle all his stuff at demf and do 909
programming on the fly, but the outcome just seemed pretty boring. Not
even any of those trademark plastikman funky rimshot rhythms. just
kick,snare,hihat,ride- w/ very little variety in the different beats.

Perhaps I am missing something conceptually behind this 'cause I dont
really know anything about his ideas for doing the decks/efx/909 thing,
and I may be overlooking some fundamental part to this stuff- I've never
been too into the bangin' 4ontheFloor stuff as much anyways- so perhaps
I'm not the best critic of it. 

I think just after hearing a lot of great music from derrick w/ plenty of
soul and tribally rhythm stuff going on, the 909 just couldn't follow it
up for me. 

comments please...

-p



Re: Industrial

2000-06-03 Thread Greg Earle
Just a quick post 'cos I'm jet-lagged and have to go meet a friend:

Why am I not surprised at Alan and Sean dropping all those names?  Jesus,
you two motherfuckers are too cool.  I almost want to go find my Section 25
records and my Code Industry CD  :-)  (Where's that C.I. Mills remix, Alan?!?)

Someone asked what Steven R. Gilmore is up to nowadays.  He lives in L.A.,
up in the Hollywood hills.  I saw him last year at a Ninja Tune gig here.

Someone else mentioned busting out an old Skinny Puppy tape, and said "Good
luck finding a place for it in a Techno set".  Well, try the "Download III"
album, plenty of Techno flava on that one.  Fantastic record.  (What's the
Puppy-Detroit Kevin Bacon factor?  Well, cEvin Key is gonna try and have the
Chain Reaction guys mix his next solo album, if that counts.  And, um, I
introduced him to Richie Hawtin back in February ... hehe)

Someone else mentioned Coil.  They're playing live at Sonar.  'Nuff said.

One last Detroit/Industrial mention: Ironically enough, I'm listening to the
new(ish) Speedy J album, "A Shocking Hobby".  Lotsa Industrial noises on this
one, that's for sure  :-)  It rules!

I haven't gotten to the Digests from the DEMF/post-DEMF period yet.  Expect to
hear lots of Homer Simpson-esque "[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]" screams 
from LA when I do.  :-)

Now back to this mountain of new Japanese pr0n ... (j/k)

- Greg

P.S. I got a couple of pictures of me in front of the Liquid Room, at least!
 (Will put them up when I figure out how to suck them out of my new Nikon)




afrika bambaataa

2000-06-03 Thread marsel

for all dutchies, in utrecht
//

zaterdag 24 juni

 Afrika Bambaataa
 Hij stond aan de wieg van breakbeat, wordt Father van de Electro Funk
 Sound genoemd en zelfs Godfather van de hiphop. Afrika Bambaataa is niet
 de minste, kortom.
 Al meer dan twintig jaar timmert hij aan de weg als dj, producer, rapper en
 muzikant. Bambaataa werkte met grootheden als Grandmaster Flash, Johnny
 Lydon, De La Soul, Leftfield, George Clinton en de Jungle Brothers.
 Met The Zulu Nation zet hij zich in voor de bewustwording van zwarte
 jongeren. Ondertussen blijft zijn muziek de tijd ver vooruit. Onlangs 
verscheen

 "Planet Rock 2000", een hernieuwde versie van Bambaataa's klassieker uit
 1982.

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Re: [313] Pooley's Quiet Daze?

2000-06-03 Thread jim proffit

rol leider wrote:


...I guess Ian Pooley has produced a track or two that stands up.


Try "Dolphins" from the Kool killer 2 EP by Space Qube (Force Inc.) for 
example Pure honey.



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Re: [313] Pooley's Quiet Daze?

2000-06-03 Thread Cyclone Wehner

>Someone mentioned a digest or two ago that Quiet Daze is Ian Pooley. I'm a 
>little shocked by this: the 'November' track on the Time:Space compilation 
>is probably my favourite, but Ian Pooley?...

That came from me. It's an open secret. I interviewed him a year ago (I
think) and he was real chuffed to get something out on Transmat and it's the
best thing he's done by far. I have heard some things of his I thought were
good but not astonishing. The same with his DJ sets. But everyone seems to
respect the guy. He's in Armand Van Helden's Da Mongoloids too.

Cheers

C

Listening: Universal Principles LP (Soma), nice.


Re: [313] St.Andy's Next Saturday...

2000-06-03 Thread Nathan John de Yonker

I think this is pretty disturbing party. Very enigmatic stuff. Some of
these kids are playing live for the first time, and some of them might be
really fantastic. 
To me it seems like a fucking awesome idea that's gotten into the wrong
hands. 
What made the promoters of this turn it into candy rave massive? Are all
these tweaked out highschoolers even going to care that something like
this has neer been pulled off in detroit history? can someone on this list
please attend and review all these unknown kids? Hopefully it's not like 8
hours of MC-303 trance :< 
n8

On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Carissa Tintinalli wrote:

> The name of this "event" isahem
> 
> "Zorak's All Live P.A. JAMBOREE"
> Lineup:

> Pretty much locals, for many a first public performance. Although they're 
> trying to pass it off as an "electronic dance music festival" it's still 
> your basic r...nah, I won't say it.
> There are some issues with the promoter as some artists on the bill were not 
> asked to perform at this event.
> The flyer also says there will be free Icy pops and Glowsticks,I think 
> that pretty much says what this party is all about.



Pooley's Quiet Daze?

2000-06-03 Thread rol leider
Someone mentioned a digest or two ago that Quiet Daze is Ian Pooley. I'm a 
little shocked by this: the 'November' track on the Time:Space compilation 
is probably my favourite, but Ian Pooley?...


Kind of goes to show how much opinions (well, mine at least) are swayed by 
knowledge of who the artist is, because I'm sure if I knew 'November' was by 
Pooley I wouldn't have liked it so much. I know the thing to do is judge the 
music on it's own merits, but I'm being honest: it's hard not to be 
influenced by all the stuff external to the track: the artist, the label, 
the artwork, etc. All this stuff sets up expectations before the music kicks 
in.


And I guess Ian Pooley has produced a track or two that stands up.

Cheers

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Re: [313] Beyer's homage to D

2000-06-03 Thread Jwan Allen
The Beyer's homage to the D, on Svek was lackluster prodection in my opinion. 
Sure he threw in some chords, but the EP was just average overall. A quote from 
a customer in the record store "this sounds like 20 other records I have, so 
I'll pass on this one."


Lido Hotel is a very good album, not the album of the year though. I vote for 
either Christian Morganstern's Lydia ep (this record hasn't left my box) or the 
extremely slept on Terreance Dixon on Tresor, a very good album that I never 
hear anyone talk about.


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RE: [313] WARNING!!! Lost my money...

2000-06-03 Thread David Anthony Parsons
I must say that I had no problems at all with Mark & Johanna, I went to
visit them and see the collection for myself (probably one of the best
Detroit techno collections in the UK when it was in its entirety...)

I had a great time chatting to Mark who is extremely knowledgeable on the
subject, I also proceeded to buy £685 worth of the collection...

I am sure that any problems / delays are down to the shear volume of emails
and calls they received from people wanting to buy some of these amazing
records + the fact that they were about to move house...

Dave
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that´s the same shit for me, but I lost "only" 100
£...  not all people on this list, like on this
fucking world are true, that´s it. but if I see
somewhere this bitch :-((

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>
> I ordered records from her and I never got them.
>
> I lost £250.00 because of this "deal" (approx.
> $362.00)... I've sent
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> I make a final
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> english subscribers:
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Re: dis poem... again?

2000-06-03 Thread Javier Drada
Man I don't know, I never picked up that copy, being that there is only one
record store in New Orleans and that most of the stuff I pick up is
mail-order I have missed certain things. So I could not say, cause I never
had the pleasure of listening to that one, It might be though cause this EP
is 4 vinyl pieces with all kinds of stuff, all spoken word...Dispoem is
listed under Joe Claussel and Matabaruka no catalog number though, sorry.

On the Boo Williams - Trackmode, he sampled a pretty hefty obvious chunk of
Kraftwerk on the track entitled Spicy, man that record is sweet.





DEMF Reports

2000-06-03 Thread Counterforce - Lay

Haye!

*** A sincere thank you to all the guys that had the chance to go to DEMF
for sharing with us the moments you spent there. It sent chills up my spine
reading all those reports describing all the sensations, seeing the pictures
you toughtfully put online, now I'm working on hearing the audio (this
connection's way too slow for streaming :-( ) It was definitly the next best
thing from being there.
*** I guess I'll be joining that large "we'll-catch-it-next-year" team. I
only left this country twice, the first one to see UR in London, the second
for going to the land of my parents. I truly hope that next year I have the
chance (read: money) to be at that side, feeling Detroit, meeting the other
list members, writing the reports and taking the pictures.
*** Well, I'll try to heal the wounds with Sonar right here by my side...
:-)
*** Thank you, guys and gals.

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vinyl warping

2000-06-03 Thread jim proffit

Seth Redmond wrote:


nevertheless I'm interested if anyone knows the reason behind the generally
low quality of vinyl coming out of detroit. I know oil prices are rising 
and

I don't expect virgin vinyl all the time, but I rarely buy an NSC record
which isn't at least slightly warped these days. It seems to be a 
particular

problem to Detroit as I've not had the same problems with European labels.


Yeah, that's some curse that's been buggin some U.S. vinyls for ages. For 
some time it was obvious to expect U.S. vinyl to sound shitty, it had a 
"cheap"-feeling to it, making it more "underground" (as ridiculous as it 
seems).


I've wondered about the differences between vinyl-pressers. Apparently 
United Record Pressing, that Submerge / UR use, has a better QC. Detroit's 
native pressing-plant Archer on the other hand... Who knows?


I think it is a question of bad luck: some percentage of the pressing amount 
is warped and some is not. Like BC for example: I think the first pressings 
of those vinyls were OK, but later they were quite shitty quality. List goes 
on and on...



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Reflections Reminder Saturday 6/3/00

2000-06-03 Thread Javier Drada
Don't forget to tune in to todays webcast of Reflections on 
http://www.flyfm.net. This weekends segment will include some new pieces I just 
picked up which include:

Ann Nesby - Love is what we need - Peppermint Jam

Chris Gray - Brink of Insanity & Ran Away - Deep 4 Life

Boo Williams new Ep on Trackmode

Terry Francis - Notice Board - Euka House

The Voices of Urban Renewal EP on Guidance (Seriously Dope Spoken Word EP, has 
a Joe Claussel remix of DISPOEM, tight, tight, tiigght!!)

Def Bond & Fafa Monteco - Such a Good Feeling - Chicayork

Shoki Remixed, Femikuti EP on Nuphonic

Silicone Soul - A Soul Thing EP on Soma

Distance Spring Sampler 2000 (Sweet as Honey, let me tell ya)

& Lance Nuance EP on Seasons Recordings

So tune in from 3:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. Central Standard Time 
http://www.flyfm.net 

See ya...

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silver apples

2000-06-03 Thread Seth Redmond
Sorry about this, way off topic, but if we can talk about Genesis P-orridge 
then I reckon I can squeeze this in:


Does anyone know anything about the new Silver Apples material which was has 
apparently been coming out for about a year? I had heard rumours that they 
were going to be working with DJ Hell and a few other notables (which may 
add some much-needed balls to their work).


In fact while I'm writing, I also heard that Hell had recorded a version of 
"A Pox on You" so if anyone knows where to find that...

Any help would be much appreciated.

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PLURkids Obscured - Tonight - DIRECTIONS

2000-06-03 Thread Shane from PLURkids







Hi all,

 Ok this is basically the info as it will appear on the infoline, so 
PKU'ers don't need to call it at all :)


 PLURkids Obscured is at a new (yeah, as in VIRGIN) space. The best part is 
that it is SAFE. Basically, it is what we always dreamed of having and never 
did, with a huge paved secure parking lot big enough to hold every car that 
might come, clean bathrooms with running water, and room for literally 3000 
or more people to dance all night. Think Fathom, only bigger and with safer 
parking. Please respect the space, or no one will ever get to use it again - 
the owner was really difficult to say the least.


 All people attending this party will have to go through a map point. There 
will be two map points to choose from - Tron Records on Woodward Ave in 
Ferndale, and a gaming store called "The Only Game in Town" two doors up 
from Detroit Threads on Jos Campau in Hamtramck. ALL PEOPLE ON THE GUESTLIST 
AND BIRTHDAY PEOPLE MUST GO TO THE HAMTRAMCK LOCATION. THAT LOCATION WILL BE 
THE ONLY LOCATION WITH FREE TICKETS AVAILABLE. We'd like to encourage people 
to go to the Hamtramck location as their primary choice, so if you are 
undecided or don't care then go to that spot. Both map points will open at 
8:30pm, doors to the space will open at 9pm.


*NOTE: There will be no entry onto the premises of the space without
  your ticket, and to get past the guard shack to park you will
  have to have tickets ready to show the guards.

Directions to the map points are as follows:

PRIMARY MAP POINT: "THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN", HAMTRAMCK
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If you know how to get to Motor or Detroit Threads, you can easily find this 
place.


From the NORTH: take I-75 South to the Caniff exit. Go left across the 
freeway and travel east about a mile to Joseph Campau. Turn right and go 
about 4 blocks. Look on your left hand side for The Only Game In Town. The 
address is 10034 Joseph Campau. It is two doors north of Detroit Threads.


From CANADA: 375 is closed right now, so you will probably have to go north 
on the Lodge (10) to Davison Ave East to I-75 South. Caniff will be your 
first exit, so just stay in the right lane and then follow directions as 
above.



SECONDARY MAP POINT: TRON RECORDS, FERNDALE
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From all points, find your way to I-696 and Woodward Avenue (between
I-75 and the Lodge Fwy). Go south on Woodward Ave and Tron Records is about 
1/4 mile up on your right, between the freeway and 9 mile. I think 696 is 
open now, so there should be no problem with getting there, but just in 
case, from the west you can take 696 to 10 (Lodge) South to the 
10Mile/Evergreen rd exit, then go left (east) and it will turn into the 
service drive for 696 just before Woodward ave. Turn right onto Woodward and 
Tron is about 1/4 mile up on your right, between the freeway and 9 mile.


 Map points open at 8:30 pm, doors at the space at 9pm. From 8:30pm until 
12 midnight, you will be able to purchase tickets for $25. After midnight, 
the price will be $30. The first of the headliners is on by then, so come 
early and groove with us. Birthday people with photo id are in free, and out 
of state (including Canada) get in for the presale price of $20.


 All headliners are confirmed and most of them have arrived already. They 
all tell me they can't wait to play on the 4-corner Turbosound rig, now 
increased to 54 bins. Once again, artists performing are:


- Kevin Yost (i! Records, Pennsylvania/NJ)
- DJ Fluid as Afro-Mystic (Om Records, San Francisco)
- DJ Steven Sacks (Premium Soulsonic Megajive, San Francisco/Atlanta)
- DJ Huggie (Global Energy Musik, Los Angeles)
- Adam Caruso (PLURkids, Detroit)
- Jonathan Voigt (STATE:AWAKE, Ann Arbor)


MOST IMPORTANTLY:
This is a PLURkids event. That means we are all about Peace, Love, Unity, 
and Respect. It does not mean that we tolerate drugs, violence, or bad vibes 
of any kind. We will have people walking around who's sole job is to make 
sure everyone is safe and having a good time. If you are there to cause a 
ruckus or sell your shit, don't expect our firm but friendly security to be 
so friendly when they eject you from the party! Please leave the anger at 
home, or don't bother coming. If you have love in your heart, come, share 
it, and be blessed - we'll see you there.


Kindest Regards,

Shane
PLURkids Productions
Info 734.913.9672
www.plurkids.com
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Re: [313] Poetic DEMF (Previous v Present)

2000-06-03 Thread Cyclone Wehner

Thanks to all the info on the "poetry". Now that you mention Umar Bin Hassan
and the Last Poets I know exactly what you mean as I am familiar with their
work and what they represent.

They have toured and have been covered in magazines like Echoes in the UK. I
may even try to find some of this.

What a beautful idea this was - so perfect for the city and the occasion. 

While I'm at it, I would like to ask the Adelaide contingent: how Claude
Young was last night? 

Cheers

C








Re: [313] the OT on and on...

2000-06-03 Thread *** ASKEW

Lay wrote:

And there are also other mailing lists, such as Analog Heaven, Digital
Hell, etc. Just go to Hyperreal's main page and find out about them.


Or take it to private mail.


Askew, you just *gotta* have some Detroit politics in this list, which
eventualy becomes subjective, no?... :-) But I do know what you mean, the 
70+ messages a day that the list delivers can't be read in 10min time...


I don't have a problem with discussing Detroit politics.
I was referring to the whole DJT-1000/DEMF thread... where the responses to 
AO's post at his site started as speculation, and stayed there. :)



~Askew


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Re: [313] the OT on and on...

2000-06-03 Thread *** ASKEW

Lay wrote:

And there are also other mailing lists, such as Analog Heaven, Digital
Hell, etc. Just go to Hyperreal's main page and find out about them.


Or take it to private mail.


Askew, you just *gotta* have some Detroit politics in this list, which
eventualy becomes subjective, no?... :-) But I do know what you mean, the 
70+ messages a day that the list delivers can't be read in 10min time...


I don't have a problem with discussing Detroit politics.
I was referring to the whole DJT-1000/DEMF thread... where the responses to 
AO's post at his site started as speculation, and stayed there. :)



~Askew


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Re: [313] Previous v Present turnouts in Detroit

2000-06-03 Thread Intermodal
hey, 

Ive got to second this. I am glad that I was not the only one who found
it offensive that Derrick and Omar got a lukewarm reaction for DJ'ing,
and an utterly confused look for the poetry(which basically nailed
everything that is wrong with American society in 5 minutes) while Rich
shows up with a 909 and a compressor and the crowd goes apeshit. 

Not to hate on Rich, but Derrick May deserved alot more love from that
crowd than he got. He was playing those great afro-cuban jazz records by
the end, just so lush and deep. Hawtin was alright, it was cool to hear
Vaporspace and Lyot on a system, but he was not coming with soul like
Derrick May. 

I guess we are just getting old Phred. Still, the cool thing about being
old is we can talk about Genesis PO and reference him outside of being
"that guy for modulations who invented acidhouse" :) (inside DEMF joke)

Take care, 
Mike

NP Model 500 : Ocean to Ocean

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> 
> Yeah, it was hard to hear Omar Bin Hassan over the teenyboppers around
> me screaming "Richie! Richie!" during his oration during Derrick's set.
> 
> I was down the steps close to the floor at that point and the crowd
> around me had little apparent interest in one guy up there playing records
> and the other guy expounding on some kind of conflict thing.
> 
> Maybe someday they'll realize.
> 
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Members of the House

2000-06-03 Thread Intermodal
Hello, 

I know that these guys were on the first Techno comp, how does their
other material hold up? Opinions, Discog...

take care, 
Mike

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Re: [313] napster article in NY times.

2000-06-03 Thread sloes
luckily i was able to reach metallica and ask for _their_ opinion about all
this:

http://www.joecartoon.com/buddies/chaos/

(flash required)

-rs

> check it
>
> http://www.technocrat.net/958163435/index_html
>
>
> Greg Malcolm




Re: [313] St.Andy's Next Saturday...

2000-06-03 Thread WiKidfLaVa313
I heard that alot of the acts on the bill didn't even know they were 
preforming.  It also claims to have headliners of Juan Atkins, Kevin 
Saunderson, and Aux 88.  Its going to be a total "ravey" event seeing how 
most of the kids in my high school keep comming up to me for flyers with it 
and asking me if any one is good...plus the promoters responsible for this 
have claim to such parties as Jiggly Puff and other bs parties attracting the 
attention of little candy ravers...I'd be careful in attending this party u'd 
probably be surrounded by half the kids in my high school who are obsessed 
with going to their first rave and eating incredible amounts of illegal 
substances and sitting on the floor cause...the line up though is a follows:

Kevin suanderson, Juan atkins, Auxx88, recloose, space ace, nelz, alan toy, 
project pong, Richie vegas, pakman, dan diamond, ozone, joefuss, kurious 
george, pbf, cyborg k, catalyst, roman, steven anthony, protoacl, tyco, 
manic, sidetone, sayan, spoonbender, Mooku & Binx, the fixxxer, Devoid, 
Darrian, Jiggy, Squirt   

-stacey


Re: [313] Poetic DEMF (Previous v Present)

2000-06-03 Thread Counterforce - Lay

Haye!

*** If he is who I think he is, I have to back that up. I'm thinking he's
the one who featured in a track called "This is Madness" at a hip-hop/jazz
compilation called "Red, Hot+Cool". Words of wisdom...

Lay
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- Original Message -
From: Cornelius Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [313] Poetic DEMF (Previous v Present)


> Umar Bin Hassan of the Last Poets.  Hardcore history, folks, check them
out.
>
>
> >From: "Roberto Ty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <313@hyperreal.org>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [313] Previous v Present turnouts in Detroit
> >Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 09:12:15 -0400
> >
> >I'm not exactly sure what the gentleman's name is (so I won't make a
> >halfways attempt), but he read a couple of his poems with conga
> >accompaniment (not sure about the musician's name either, but the conga
guy
> >was on various stages with people like Stacey Hale and Derrick May) on
> >Monday. He also did a reading during May's set with a thumping beat
rolling
> >in the background. Pretty interesting if you were paying attention. I'm
not
> >sure the crowd necessarily was into it, but I definitely paid attention
to
> >the message. One poem was about "Niggers Afraid Revolution" or something
> >like that. Reminiscent of Beat poetry.
> >
> >Anyone have more details on this? He seemed to be well respected by
> >Derrick, Carl, and others, calling him the "last true poet." I'll try and
> >find out more.
> >
> > >>> "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - 06/02/00 10:33 AM >>>
> >like a
> > >soulful James Brown song during May's set or how about Curtis Mayfield
on
> > >Deason's set, and not to mention the congas and poetry reading. All
good.
> >
> >Whoa. Poetry reading? Who had that? Over a DJ set??
> >
> >Please tell!
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RE: [313] Previous v Present turnouts in Detroit

2000-06-03 Thread Cornelius Harris
Umar Bin Hassan also read the same poem the previous day during 
Moodyman's...


And the precussionist was Sundiata.  Wild man!


Does anyone know who was MCing during Eddie Fowlkes set?


The main guy was Bill Beaver, who some might remember as one of the Members 
of the House (it'd be sweet as hell to have them regroup for an upcoming 
DEMF).  One of the others is called Boots, and the third guy, I recognize, 
but forget his name.


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Re: [313] Poetic DEMF (Previous v Present)

2000-06-03 Thread Cornelius Harris

Umar Bin Hassan of the Last Poets.  Hardcore history, folks, check them out.



From: "Roberto Ty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [313] Previous v Present turnouts in Detroit
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 09:12:15 -0400

I'm not exactly sure what the gentleman's name is (so I won't make a 
halfways attempt), but he read a couple of his poems with conga 
accompaniment (not sure about the musician's name either, but the conga guy 
was on various stages with people like Stacey Hale and Derrick May) on 
Monday. He also did a reading during May's set with a thumping beat rolling 
in the background. Pretty interesting if you were paying attention. I'm not 
sure the crowd necessarily was into it, but I definitely paid attention to 
the message. One poem was about "Niggers Afraid Revolution" or something 
like that. Reminiscent of Beat poetry.


Anyone have more details on this? He seemed to be well respected by 
Derrick, Carl, and others, calling him the "last true poet." I'll try and 
find out more.


>>> "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - 06/02/00 10:33 AM >>>
like a
>soulful James Brown song during May's set or how about Curtis Mayfield on
>Deason's set, and not to mention the congas and poetry reading. All good.

Whoa. Poetry reading? Who had that? Over a DJ set??

Please tell!


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Re: [313] the OT on and on...

2000-06-03 Thread Counterforce - Lay

Haye!

> Most of us are subbed to this list to read about 313-techno.
> Some of us pay for web access.
> Some of us have difficulty accessing the web.
>
> I honestly don't mind a few off-topic posts here and there... in fact it
can
> be interesting. But, I don't need a mail box full of posts about the
> technical merits of drum machines, subjective analysis of Detroit
> 'politics', and tit-for-tat posts about musical taste.
>
> C'mon guys... please try and keep it constructuve and on-topic.

*** I agree with Askew on most of his post, so here are some pointers to
people who also like discussing other things. Your contributions will be
much more appreciated here and you can get more focused help on any
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*** Askew, you just *gotta* have some Detroit politics in this list, which
eventualy becomes subjective, no?... :-) But I do know what you mean, the
70+ messages a day that the list delivers can't be read in 10min time...

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Re: [313] Beyer's homage to D

2000-06-03 Thread underground fighters
shit... I had wrotten for some weeks ago fucking
things about him and I bought this good record also
made from him ;-o 

why doesn´t produce this man records like that on
Drumcode?

respect

--- rol leider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2-bit review of Conceiled Project: Definition of D:
> Svek
> 
> Conceiled Project is Adam Beyer (not so well
> conceiled) in house mode. Four 
> tracks, all holding back from that compressed techno
> format he’s got down, 
> and instead putting forward the compressed funky
> house vibe. Think Adam 
> Beyer on Svek and that’s what you’ve got. The pick
> for me is the b1 track 
> (none have names): funky drums with a scatty female
> vocal (of the ‘whey hey 
> hey’ type) and the cleanest of crispest production.
> Interesting that he puts 
> out his definition of D on Svek. . . .
> 
> [And on another note, does anybody else think Lido
> Hotel is the album of 
> 2000 (to June at least)?]
> 
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