Yet another Track ID
Ok since every1 has been putting these ID's up, figured I would add one which I would love to have. Derrick May's live at fuse. The phrase, women beat their menand men beat on the drums. with a continuosly beautiful tribal drum session going on. Thanks. Mike
Re: [313] Yet another Track ID
I only know of Jon Carter's Women Beat Their Men? Ok since every1 has been putting these ID's up, figured I would add one which I would love to have. Derrick May's live at fuse. The phrase, women beat their menand men beat on the drums. with a continuosly beautiful tribal drum session going on. Thanks. Mike - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Yet another Trck ID
John carter..do you know what label thats on? thx for ur info! mike
Re: [313] (Yet another) Track ID
Greetings, I've heard both May Hawtin spin this track recently. The only way I can describe it is as extremely minimal with this military/marching snare pattern. A great 5am track. jim -to anyone who witnessed may's set last nite: this track was the third track he played, sending the dancefloor into a frenzy.
Re: who stole the soul?
Not to add fuel to your ire, Mr. Blaze: Okay so Friday night, Motor Lounge, Richard Humpty Vision played and there was reportedly a capicity crowd. Saturday night D Wynn played and there's was like 300 people, tops. What's going on? Am I still in Detroit? ___ ... but I found myself quite-the-pissed-off come last Tuesday's LATimes _Calendar_ which chose to, yet again, showcase Moby with a front page _Pop Music Review_ entitled The Soul of Dance Music complete with a large, bluish foto of the great white- mic in hand... all-the-while, degrading a review of Brian Wilson's Pet Sounds Symphonic Tour to pg.8 with accompanying teensy bw... Having displayed, once again, my not-so-secret luv of all things Pop... I defy anyone to show me the soul 'twixt Play Pet Sounds... ( won't get to many takers here, I'm sure..) n.p.: today's cheep-o find... the CD VIDEO of Visage's Mind of a Toy, J. E. v.F-B. B.
Re: [313] Yet another Track ID
I have that record.. pretty sure it's not Jon Carter... hmph... I can't find it right now, so maybe it is. ;) At 7:18 PM -0400 10/1/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok since every1 has been putting these ID's up, figured I would add one which I would love to have. Derrick May's live at fuse. The phrase, women beat their menand men beat on the drums. with a continuosly beautiful tribal drum session going on. Thanks. Mike - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Yet another Track ID
DJ Hell's Dominatrix cover comes to my mind, but I guess it's not the track you are talking about From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Yet another Track ID Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 19:18:19 EDT Ok since every1 has been putting these ID's up, figured I would add one which I would love to have. Derrick May's live at fuse. The phrase, women beat their menand men beat on the drums. with a continuosly beautiful tribal drum session going on. Thanks. Mike - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] who stole the soul?
No I think racist epithets are inappropriate. And I don't think it has anything to do with race. The question was: why has Detroit turned a deaf ear to its best homeboys again and again. (DEMF excluded). I think a better subject header for this post would be why to these cracker ass honkies ignore the soul. ;) mt Hugh G. Blaze wrote: Okay so Friday night, Motor Lounge, Richard Humpty Vision played and there was reportedly a capicity crowd. Saturday night D Wynn played and there's was like 300 people, tops. What's going on? Am I still in Detroit? _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Michael Taylor : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.billionairesforbushorgore.com _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Yet another Track ID
women beat their men - voodoo doll...out. bond - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 9:18 AM Subject: [313] Yet another Track ID Ok since every1 has been putting these ID's up, figured I would add one which I would love to have. Derrick May's live at fuse. The phrase, women beat their menand men beat on the drums. with a continuosly beautiful tribal drum session going on. Thanks. Mike - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] who stole the soul?
Hey Ken, a. it was a joke, I happen to be a blue-eyed devil myself. b. that message was sent offlist, it is rude to post private mail. c. Race does have a lot to do with it. White folks who were raised on pop music do not want to hear soulful dance music because it is too much of a stretch from the music they normally listen to. Brothers are not going to the trance parties, it is white kids. Trance music is pop with a kick drum, it is white, dumb, and musically unadventurous people that love it. And don't tell me that Humpty does not draw a very dumb and unfunky white crowd, I know you know better. People go to motor to drink and hit on chicks, they are not there for the music, if you analyze the crowd and think about what you are seeing, you will come to the same conclusion. these days many black people do not support the stuff because it is not perceived as black enough, or soulful enough. D-wynn does not even play good records on saturdays, he plays for a motor crowd, which is dumb and white. It isn't a pleasant thing to say, but it is the truth. Another thing, and this is going to get me in huge trouble, but who even wants to go to motor anymore? Honestly, everyone I know is bored to death of the place, and the only reason anybody still goes is because there are no real alternatives. As for why Detroit doesn't support its best and brightest, I can think of a number of reasons. For one, intelligent techno people are getting old, even us newschool youngsters who were into it in the mid-90's are getting older. We have jobs, some of us have kids, and we all have responsibilities. Also, most of us who have been around long enough to know the difference between Humpty and Dwynn are starting to get bored with the whole idea. How many years to you have to hang out at the club before you start to get the idea? Third, times are changing, people are not going out like they used to, it is 1982 again, just look through a new issue of Vogue. music is changing, it isn't 84 anymore. The crowds in detroit are totally segregated, commercial radio is totally segregated, unless you are Eminem or racially anonymous (godfather) you aint getting played on WJLB. 96.3 or 89x wont play you unless you are white, or you music is completely and utterly white(re hootie) radio is putting people into their particular racial boxes, and they are not listening outside of those boxes. Black people go to the cabaret, and white people go to raves. This is hitting anybody who is playing music that does not fit into one of those boxes really hard. Techno isn't purist black music, there is a ton of white influence in Detroit Techno, it is Kraftwerk and Parliament in an elevator. It is too black for the white people who do not want to stretch, and too white for black people who want to hear black music at the club. The crowd that did support it is getting old, like it our not, our scene is aging, and young kids are not taking up our slack. I say it is just as well. How many more 909 records do we really need? Derrick May was right, this dance music does not have the charisma to last. If you think things are bad now, wait another 5 years. it has been beaten to death, and it isn't special anymore. oh wow, another 12 dance record, and the reverb algorithms that is in fashion this season are so much better than the reverbs they were using last year. Wow, instead of using 909 closed hats, they are using acoustic hats to play the exact same shuffled 909 rhythm. How many dance records are actually techno? aren't you sick of knowing that the break will come every 8 bars, and that there will probably be a breakdown every 64 bars...? There are all these rules for making a proper techno record, and it is just so tired and boring. I know that I sound like a bitter and jaded old-young man, I accept and acknowledge it. The reason I am such a jerk about it is because I do care about music, and I take the things that people like derrick may said about techno back in the day seriously. People are just rehashing the same f***ing record over and over for money or status. all these records that are coming put now are raping and s***ting on something that was once special and pure. Where is the real innovation, people make the same track over and over, they just process it a little different, put some different drum sounds on it, and they are lauded as geniuses. The reason people are not coming to the club anymore is because detroit is not making music that is so vibrant and irresistible that people feel they need to be at our gigs. Detroit needs to go back to Deep Space and bring something back that is so out there that people will go nuts for it. Who cares if there is another slammin dance cut, there have been a million slammin cuts, it is time for a new Detroit sound. We need to make a new style that has its roots in techno-soul, but is reaching further out. It is time for Detroit to create another futuristic musical language, cause the old
Re: [313] who stole the soul?
MT I completely understand your views on the whole detroit techno scene, and the way you feel it has significantly gotten worse over the years. However..I am brand new to this scene...im 23 and i dont live in detroit...im on the east coast. Back in my high school days I was a punk rocker.digging all the raw and unheard soundz that these bands were showing us. After time...the mainstream caught a hold of it...and the end was near. No more respect for Green Day and Rancid. Nofx was no longer a true punk band. Why??? simple. I got older and jaded with the music b/c I knew punk music one way: in my youth. i grew up to a certain sound...and it changed. its the common saying their first album is their best. about 6 months ago...i heard the soundz of techno. it amazed me. it enlightened meand it took me away. but...i cant get into alot of the older detroit stuff why? b/c its not the style i was introduced to. I enjoy the tribal, flowing, banging stuff. marco bailey, andreas kramer, hawtin, mills...just to name a few. and i gaurentee you that in 5-10 yrs i will feel the same way you do. music..especially tekno = evolution. nothing stays the same..can u imagine if it did? it just progresses and ur not familiar with this sound. i am. and the feeling u got from going 2 a club 10 yrs agoi get now. i dont wanna leave when i go. and i am as true 2 the music as you seem 2 be. i care about it. and i will most likely feel the same way u do when my style changes. as far white/black musici dont have any answers 2 that. here on the east coast u have the following: black kids for the most part..listen to black hip-hop (isnt that synonomous?) very few listen to anything else. tekno is not nerely black music anymore. the earlier stuff..yes i can see that. funky..and housyhouse = chicago = predominantly black. yes there r some traces in todays technobut not enough for anyone who isnt into it. the bottom line is this. music to most people is not what it is to you and I. we study and disect everything we hear. to most, it is merely background music. music is changing..and it always has...and always will. that is one fact we all need to xpect. my 2 cents.mike d.
designer music...norm talley
:) just listening to problemz- designer music and there's a sample which i first heard on THE most xlnt norm talley 12 on city boy records. anyone know where it comes from originally? thanks, emma mee-thod -it's in the way that you groove it-
Re: [313] designer music...norm talley
On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, mee-thod wrote: :) just listening to problemz- designer music and there's a sample which i first heard on THE most xlnt norm talley 12 on city boy records. anyone know where it comes from originally? If you are talking about problemz from the designer music 12 by carl, he sampled Alexander Robotnick's Problems d'amour which came out on Fuzz Dance out of italy.
Re: [313] ESI Festival Lansing
SRM is Scott Macinnis, also a former DJ on WDBM where I did the Mechanical Pulse. It was nice to see Scott on Saturday but I didn't get to see him spin, though I have seen him DJ before and he's got great technique and an equal passion for the sound. Scott and Trent were roommates for awhile. I got up to this festival real late unfortunately because I was with other people so I *only* got to see Mayday, but I'll give it up to the promoters for putting on a great time. It's nice to see my college town still kickin'. HP William VanLoo wrote: SRM Trent Abbe I'm not sure who SRM is, but I would urge anybody who's going to this to check out Trent Abbe from 3-4PM on Saturday. I probably won't be able to make it myself, but I'd actually consider it to hear Trent. He's a great DJ, and a nice guy to boot. His style is somewhere between Mills Claude Young - he likes to do doubles, scratch, and mess with his records, but he's also got broad taste, ranging from house to techno to electro. I pull out the tape I've got of him on WDBM's The Mechanical Pulse every now and then, and it bangs, but not like dex/fx/909 style banging - it's got funk, a good flow, and a true progression. Bill / dj marathon -- http://www.chromedecay.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
richard harvey explanation
richard harvey is not richie hawtin, richard harvey is from london, he is also know as user which is some of his latest work. the user tracks are the ones that appear on the decks, efx, 909 disc. hopefully this brings some clarity to you. troy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
[313] chris fortier
Hey peeps, I have recently become intrigued by BT and was wondering if anyone could give me some input on what you think about Brian TranseauI would love to know if anyone likes him besides me. I love it.. thanx angel _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] richard harvey explanation
And I believe that richard harvey is also an alias... At 11:39 PM -0700 10/1/00, john holmes wrote: richard harvey is not richie hawtin, richard harvey is from london, he is also know as user which is some of his latest work. the user tracks are the ones that appear on the decks, efx, 909 disc. hopefully this brings some clarity to you. troy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] bt
Lisa McEntire wrote: Hey peeps, I have recently become intrigued by BT and was wondering if anyone could give me some input on what you think about Brian TranseauI would love to know if anyone likes him besides me. I love it.. thanx angel oh, is he still in the business? haven't heard anything by him for last 5 or 6 years. then his stuff was called progressive house. quite typical of that kind of stuff i think. / sakke -- work http://www.teraflops.com/ personal http://www.vip.fi/~sakke/
track ID 'Women beat their man'
Ok guys, I'm normally only a digest reader, but for once I can help. Track you are asking about is definitely Submission - Women beat their man - Velocity it's a Cevin Fisher track At your service, Nerve
Re: [313] who stole the soul?
mike d wrote: Back in my high school days I was a punk rocker.digging all the raw and unheard soundz that these bands were showing us. After time...the mainstream caught a hold of it...and the end was near. No more respect for Green Day and Rancid. Nofx was no longer a true punk band. Why??? simple. I got older and jaded with the music b/c I knew punk music one way: in my youth. i grew up to a certain sound...and it changed. its the common saying their first album is their best. You're suggesting that people actually grow INTO a sound, be it Punk, Detroit techno or whatever. It continues: ...about 6 months ago...i heard the soundz of techno. it amazed me. it enlightened meand it took me away. but...i cant get into alot of the older detroit stuff why? b/c its not the style i was introduced to... I don't agree with you that one has to be introduced to a certain sound or style, and that the first encounters with any new musical style are the best or strongest you can have. Of course there's a special nostalgia for it, remembering the good ol'days, but it has nothing to do with how good music is. Or what you may or may not like. I wasn't listening to classic Detroit Techno when it first came in the 80's (I started in the early 90's), but I like it A LOT. I don't have any special nostalgia for it, but nevertheless I find the music's depth, energy and innovation outstanding. I understand the importance of this music, as well as any other style's importance in the chain of musical culture. I listen to 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's music and find amazing pieces of work from all genres, all the time. I find this philosophy that every generation has it's idols disturbing. People are not computers where you download a certain operation system every other year (=musical trends), and once you've passed your youth you're stuck with the music you listened to. Of course not. Music is culture, and culture has the ability to survive thousands of years, there's no sell-by date in it, it doesn't lose it's energy like a battery. I think the fact that you might not like most of the D-techno has more to do with the fact that you like more energetic music. Maybe D-techno hasn't got the bang enough for you or something...? Proffit _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] BT
To be fair, he is a great person, very approachable, very extrovert in an 'LA' kinda way though he is from Maryland in Washington, it's just that I can't stand his music (too derivative to my ears and just doesn't appeal) and I think you'll find that there could be a sudden thread why BT sucks as he is seen as ideologically distant from most of the music discussed on 313. He has had formal musical training at Berklee College but left and worked on sessions with Salt-N-Pepa and even did the incidental music for Dr Dre and Snoop Doggy Dogg's Murder Was The Case (true!) - all these unlikely things like that. He's been working with Peter Gabriel of late, I believe. Many see him as one of the progenitors of progressive house, as he spent time in the UK and was taken under the wing of Sasha and signed to Perfecto, which he later left. His music is going more down the breaktrance route at the moment. To bring it back to 313 I think Carl Craig did a remix for him? He was a colleague of Deep Dish's very, very early on but they had some kind of differences. I have no doubt that he will blow up in the US sometime, he has MTV all over him. He moved to LA to chase more movie work. Hey peeps, I have recently become intrigued by BT and was wondering if anyone could give me some input on what you think about Brian TranseauI would love to know if anyone likes him besides me. I love it.. thanx angel
RE: 313 Digest 2 Oct 2000 03:49:56 -0000 Issue 246
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 2 oktober 2000 5:50 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: 313 Digest 2 Oct 2000 03:49:56 - Issue 246 -- Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 19:18:19 EDT To: 313@hyperreal.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Yet another Track ID Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok since every1 has been putting these ID's up, figured I would add one which I would love to have. Derrick May's live at fuse. The phrase, women beat their menand men beat on the drums. with a continuosly beautiful tribal drum session going on. Thanks. Mike -- [Jan Claeyssens] I I think the track you're referring to is actually from Cevin Fisher under his Submission Monikker. Submission : women beat their Men. JayCee
Re: [313] BT
the moment. To bring it back to 313 I think Carl Craig did a remix for him? He was a colleague of Deep Dish's very, very early on but they had some kind of differences. Yes, in 1993 Carl Craig remixed The Moment Of Truth by BT, which was the second release on Deep Dish. Hans -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.TV-99-AD.com/hans/ http://TechnoTourist.org/
Re: [313] bt
Sure is! He is as big as Oakenfold, Sasha and Digweed, all those cats in the UK and Australia. He plays live mostly, doesn't DJ. His new album should be out in the US and has all these high profile guests, Adam Freeland, Sasha, Paul Van Dyk, DJ Rap, etc. He also remixed a single (or two?) from Madonna's Ray Of Light LP with Sasha. Just not my taste. His name comes up all the time on the MTV site. Now enuff BT before the backlash begins. Anyone want more info on this guy, please e-mail me privately - BT has had heaps of press over here, making me a quasi-expert by default. oh, is he still in the business? haven't heard anything by him for last 5 or 6 years. then his stuff was called progressive house. quite typical of that kind of stuff i think.
RE: [313] bt
actually his newer stuff has been more along the lines of flordia breaks. i have only heard small snipets of it, but it isn't too bad if you are into that sound. he seems to have left the progressive sound behind. i guess he wised up jeff -Original Message- From: Sakari Karipuro [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 11:54 PM To: Detroit Subject: Re: [313] bt Lisa McEntire wrote: Hey peeps, I have recently become intrigued by BT and was wondering if anyone could give me some input on what you think about Brian TranseauI would love to know if anyone likes him besides me. I love it.. thanx angel oh, is he still in the business? haven't heard anything by him for last 5 or 6 years. then his stuff was called progressive house. quite typical of that kind of stuff i think. / sakke -- work http://www.teraflops.com/ personal http://www.vip.fi/~sakke/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] bt
Kinda funny you should say live since he has been quite outspoken against MIDI for some time. In fact he claims to not use it at all... Ryan Heard -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 1:14 AM To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: [313] bt Sure is! He is as big as Oakenfold, Sasha and Digweed, all those cats in the UK and Australia. He plays live mostly, doesn't DJ. His new album should be snip
Re: [313] track ID 'Women beat their man'
Hi all, What a cool olympic games! Yeah...i'm finally back from down under. The original women beat their men sample was lifted from the old N.Y electro classic The Dominatrix-'Dominatrix Sleeps Tonight' on Arthur Baker's streetwise imprint.A must have track! Later, Justice808 From: Nerve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] track ID 'Women beat their man' Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 09:47:24 +0200 Ok guys, I'm normally only a digest reader, but for once I can help. Track you are asking about is definitely Submission - Women beat their man - Velocity it's a Cevin Fisher track At your service, Nerve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] richard harvey explanation
Hi again friends... Dean Cole AKA Richard Harvey AKA User records, first came into contact with music while attending various heavy blues parties. His uncle operated the legendary ROADBLOCK Sound System. The ACID HOUSE explosion of 88 took hold of the fifteen year olds imagination and was soon experimenting with Cheap keyboards drum machines. Various trips to New York brought another influence the mighty 'Franky Bones', creating sampling brought new possibilities to Cole's approach to making music. He purchased a sampler and began to utilize rhythms and sounds from various sources to create heavy up-to date trax with tip off the hat to the early innovators of dance electronica. Dean Cole prefers to remain in the background giving max respect to the originators. While people may criticize his methods, there is no argument to the power of his trax on the dance floor. It really is a case of 'Shut Up and Dance'. And once again: It's all here... User records http://www.sonox.com/label.box?id=CO397760e6cd224 00A http://www.sonox.com/label.box?id=CO3977616c75a67 Corrsion http://www.sonox.com/label.box?id=CO39775e70b3c77 Peace janos And I believe that richard harvey is also an alias... At 11:39 PM -0700 10/1/00, john holmes wrote: richard harvey is not richie hawtin, richard harvey is from london, he is also know as user which is some of his latest work. the user tracks are the ones that appear on the decks, efx, 909 disc. hopefully this brings some clarity to you. troy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A Number of Names
Does anyone have an MP3 of Sharevari (not the version from Juan's Wax Trax mix CD) in it's full and glorious entirety? I'd be much obliged if someone can help me out. Best wishes Tim
Re: [313] richard harvey explanation
Yeah, thanks for the input... The only reason I ask is that, you know, richie can get weird with his approaches. I have most of the user records (still trying to find 001a), but I was always a little confused because lack of info... But there still remains this weird question about what's up with the DE9 artist naming... When you put DE9 into that new microsoft media player, all the artists names come up on each track and title. Well, to make a long story short, here's how it comes up- ratio : early blow richie hawtin : dumped richard harvey : (02) richard harvey : (04) richard harvey : (01) richard harvey : (01) richard harvey : 001a richie hawtin : b2 richie hawtin : road to rio richie hawtin : b1 richie hawtin : A2 richie hawtin : A1 richard harvey : 002a - b1 jeff mills jeff mills jeff mills jeff mills richie richie nietzer ebb ect... u, clearly this is a conscious effort to label the artist and tracks this way... any input? darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com - Original Message - From: john holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 11:39 PM Subject: [313] richard harvey explanation richard harvey is not richie hawtin, richard harvey is from london, he is also know as user which is some of his latest work. the user tracks are the ones that appear on the decks, efx, 909 disc. hopefully this brings some clarity to you. troy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] BT
he's from Washington DC and we have him booked next week (to my chagrin)... From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [313] BT To be fair, he is a great person, very approachable, very extrovert in an 'LA' kinda way though he is from Maryland in Washington, it's just that I can't stand his music (too derivative to my ears and just doesn't appeal) and I think you'll find that there could be a sudden thread why BT sucks as he is seen as ideologically distant from most of the music discussed on 313. He has had formal musical training at Berklee College but left and worked on sessions with Salt-N-Pepa and even did the incidental music for Dr Dre and Snoop Doggy Dogg's Murder Was The Case (true!) - all these unlikely things like that. He's been working with Peter Gabriel of late, I believe. Many see him as one of the progenitors of progressive house, as he spent time in the UK and was taken under the wing of Sasha and signed to Perfecto, which he later left. His music is going more down the breaktrance route at the moment. To bring it back to 313 I think Carl Craig did a remix for him? He was a colleague of Deep Dish's very, very early on but they had some kind of differences. I have no doubt that he will blow up in the US sometime, he has MTV all over him. He moved to LA to chase more movie work. Hey peeps, I have recently become intrigued by BT and was wondering if anyone could give me some input on what you think about Brian TranseauI would love to know if anyone likes him besides me. I love it.. thanx angel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] BT
I'm not really into his music at all, but an interesting tid bit; his latest release was created entirely from a computer! Absolutely no hardware synths or beat boxes were used. That says something about the power of music software these days as the production quality of his latest is quite nice. GYS -Original Message- From: darw_n [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:50 AM To: Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: Re: [313] BT he's from Washington DC and we have him booked next week (to my chagrin)... From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [313] BT To be fair, he is a great person, very approachable, very extrovert in an 'LA' kinda way though he is from Maryland in Washington, it's just that I can't stand his music (too derivative to my ears and just doesn't appeal) and I think you'll find that there could be a sudden thread why BT sucks as he is seen as ideologically distant from most of the music discussed on 313. He has had formal musical training at Berklee College but left and worked on sessions with Salt-N-Pepa and even did the incidental music for Dr Dre and Snoop Doggy Dogg's Murder Was The Case (true!) - all these unlikely things like that. He's been working with Peter Gabriel of late, I believe. Many see him as one of the progenitors of progressive house, as he spent time in the UK and was taken under the wing of Sasha and signed to Perfecto, which he later left. His music is going more down the breaktrance route at the moment. To bring it back to 313 I think Carl Craig did a remix for him? He was a colleague of Deep Dish's very, very early on but they had some kind of differences. I have no doubt that he will blow up in the US sometime, he has MTV all over him. He moved to LA to chase more movie work. Hey peeps, I have recently become intrigued by BT and was wondering if anyone could give me some input on what you think about Brian TranseauI would love to know if anyone likes him besides me. I love it.. thanx angel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Software, was BT
I have to admit, I have all my boxes unplugged right now, and do everything from a laptop. software has really solidified!! darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com - Original Message - From: Todd Gys [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'darw_n' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Cyclone Wehner' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '313 Detroit' 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 6:24 AM Subject: RE: [313] BT I'm not really into his music at all, but an interesting tid bit; his latest release was created entirely from a computer! Absolutely no hardware synths or beat boxes were used. That says something about the power of music software these days as the production quality of his latest is quite nice. GYS -Original Message- From: darw_n [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:50 AM To: Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: Re: [313] BT he's from Washington DC and we have him booked next week (to my chagrin)... From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [313] BT To be fair, he is a great person, very approachable, very extrovert in an 'LA' kinda way though he is from Maryland in Washington, it's just that I can't stand his music (too derivative to my ears and just doesn't appeal) and I think you'll find that there could be a sudden thread why BT sucks as he is seen as ideologically distant from most of the music discussed on 313. He has had formal musical training at Berklee College but left and worked on sessions with Salt-N-Pepa and even did the incidental music for Dr Dre and Snoop Doggy Dogg's Murder Was The Case (true!) - all these unlikely things like that. He's been working with Peter Gabriel of late, I believe. Many see him as one of the progenitors of progressive house, as he spent time in the UK and was taken under the wing of Sasha and signed to Perfecto, which he later left. His music is going more down the breaktrance route at the moment. To bring it back to 313 I think Carl Craig did a remix for him? He was a colleague of Deep Dish's very, very early on but they had some kind of differences. I have no doubt that he will blow up in the US sometime, he has MTV all over him. He moved to LA to chase more movie work. Hey peeps, I have recently become intrigued by BT and was wondering if anyone could give me some input on what you think about Brian TranseauI would love to know if anyone likes him besides me. I love it.. thanx angel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Swedish Techno
Hmmm...this brings a whole new light to those David Hasselhoff albums... http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amgsql=B142889 Whooohooo!!! Is this stuff available on vinyl??;) Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Woooosh
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blasting away at my speakers straight outta the big O, almost D but D by heart that phenomenal ep on *bb by mr Curtincalled when worlds allign , that is one helluva trak maestro!! There's some new stuff coming from Starbaby soon BTW... check that:) Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] who stole the soul?
The 21+ could have reduced the crowd, also Derrick May played in Lansing and Windsor too. respose to other responses: Getting layed is important if your white or black. Listening to good music is important if your white or black. Race is not the issue it is priorities and the ability to tell the difference between good music and bad and dirty and clean (lets say exercise) these are personal decisions. peace out mg Hugh G. Blaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/01/00 10:39PM No I think racist epithets are inappropriate. And I don't think it has anything to do with race. The question was: why has Detroit turned a deaf ear to its best homeboys again and again. (DEMF excluded). I think a better subject header for this post would be why to these cracker ass honkies ignore the soul. ;) mt Hugh G. Blaze wrote: Okay so Friday night, Motor Lounge, Richard Humpty Vision played and there was reportedly a capicity crowd. Saturday night D Wynn played and there's was like 300 people, tops. What's going on? Am I still in Detroit? _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Michael Taylor : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.billionairesforbushorgore.com _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Urban Slang/The Flow response
We just want to thank everybody who made it to both of these parties. we experienced such an amazing atmosphere at both of these events, highlights aside from the beautiful response from the crowd : Domingo Yu- playing a Bass mix of 'Forgot about Dre' with Electric Soul - X2 ; then hitting peoples bodies with Latin music, dancehall, UR material... and then, at peak time when everybodys crazy, dropping the Lil Kim remix of Quiet Storm and that new Premier - Royce joint and people just screaming. Mark Flash - Somebody remarked that his energy reminded him of D. May, I can understand that but his style/personality was his own. He had people eating out of his hands. Getting them to sing - call and response, hyping the crowd when they were already wild. and dropping *Work* and *Fight it* of his incredible *Timbales* Upstart record...it was hectic...Domingo's latin dancing to it was inspiring people as well. Urban Slang is a formidable unit. And I just want to thank Cornelius for setting this up and having the belief and motivation to make this happen. What happened on these nights no ones forgetting in a hurry because they've seen/heard a bunch of stuff they're not used to and had crazy fun as well... we need more risks, more diversity in order to open up music to people. If people want to know about more The Flow parties get in touch with the email below. peace Luis The Flow/Insurgency Soul [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
RE: [313] BT / Software music
Aphex Twin creates most of his music on his laptop. AFAIK was 90% of 'Window Licker' created on a powerbook. He did most of his recent livsets on a powerbook. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not really into his music at all, but an interesting tid bit; his latest release was created entirely from a computer! Absolutely no hardware synths or beat boxes were used. That says something about the power of music software these days as the production quality of his latest is quite nice.
Re: [313] who stole the soul?
I don't like this. I'm a whitey. Half of my family is black but I'm 100% white and my parents are too. My mum used to listen to lots of black music and my dad used to be the only white guy who could get into black clubs when he was a youngster cuz he could kick all their asses (Wing something waddada whateva Kung Fu thing), so he got on with them. I was brought up in a multicultural community and I don't see why the colour of your skin should make any kinda difference. There's money grabbing blacks and whites and yellows and f**kin' martians. Greed and hate and selfishness crosses the race barrier. Kraftwerk are honkys. So what if D-town is full of blacks, so what? That's positive discrimination, dissing white culture... I don't like what you've said at all and I'd just shut your mouth before you start a flame war. Race shouldn't come into the techno equation, alright? Nick (Dj Pacific) c. Race does have a lot to do with it. White folks who were raised on pop music do not want to hear soulful dance music because it is too much of a stretch from the music they normally listen to. Brothers are not going to the trance parties, it is white kids. Trance music is pop with a kick drum, it is white, dumb, and musically unadventurous people that love it. And don't tell me that Humpty does not draw a very dumb and unfunky white crowd, I know you know better. People go to motor to drink and hit on chicks, they are not there for the music, if you analyze the crowd and think about what you are seeing, you will come to the same conclusion. these days many black people do not support the stuff because it is not perceived as black enough, or soulful enough. D-wynn does not even play good records on saturdays, he plays for a motor crowd, which is dumb and white. It isn't a pleasant thing to say, but it is the truth. Another thing, and this is going to get me in huge trouble, but who even wants to go to motor anymore? Honestly, everyone I know is bored to death of the place, and the only reason anybody still goes is because there are no real alternatives. As for why Detroit doesn't support its best and brightest, I can think of a number of reasons. For one, intelligent techno people are getting old, even us newschool youngsters who were into it in the mid-90's are getting older. We have jobs, some of us have kids, and we all have responsibilities. Also, most of us who have been around long enough to know the difference between Humpty and Dwynn are starting to get bored with the whole idea. How many years to you have to hang out at the club before you start to get the idea? Third, times are changing, people are not going out like they used to, it is 1982 again, just look through a new issue of Vogue. music is changing, it isn't 84 anymore. The crowds in detroit are totally segregated, commercial radio is totally segregated, unless you are Eminem or racially anonymous (godfather) you aint getting played on WJLB. 96.3 or 89x wont play you unless you are white, or you music is completely and utterly white(re hootie) radio is putting people into their particular racial boxes, and they are not listening outside of those boxes. Black people go to the cabaret, and white people go to raves. This is hitting anybody who is playing music that does not fit into one of those boxes really hard. Techno isn't purist black music, there is a ton of white influence in Detroit Techno, it is Kraftwerk and Parliament in an elevator. It is too black for the white people who do not want to stretch, and too white for black people who want to hear black music at the club. The crowd that did support it is getting old, like it our not, our scene is aging, and young kids are not taking up our slack. I say it is just as well. How many more 909 records do we really need? Derrick May was right, this dance music does not have the charisma to last. If you think things are bad now, wait another 5 years. it has been beaten to death, and it isn't special anymore. oh wow, another 12 dance record, and the reverb algorithms that is in fashion this season are so much better than the reverbs they were using last year. Wow, instead of using 909 closed hats, they are using acoustic hats to play the exact same shuffled 909 rhythm. How many dance records are actually techno? aren't you sick of knowing that the break will come every 8 bars, and that there will probably be a breakdown every 64 bars...? There are all these rules for making a proper techno record, and it is just so tired and boring. I know that I sound like a bitter and jaded old-young man, I accept and acknowledge it. The reason I am such a jerk about it is because I do care about music, and I take the things that people like derrick may said about techno back in the day seriously. People are just rehashing the same f***ing record over and over for money or status.
ESI Festival Lansing
who is this kevin reynolds guy playing live at this event? any good? /aril
RE: [313] BT / Software music
I've heard that some of the Chain Reaction peeps like monolake have run entire live PA's running only Reaktor and using a midi-knob controller to shape the sound. That's pretty cool to use a single program, though Reaktor is like having as many synths and modules as you want... Awesome. Kinda making me feel foolish for dishing out about 7k for my home studio...oh well though, I'm having fun using hardware and software =] GYS set.go.recordings. -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 9:52 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: [313] BT / Software music Aphex Twin creates most of his music on his laptop. AFAIK was 90% of 'Window Licker' created on a powerbook. He did most of his recent livsets on a powerbook. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not really into his music at all, but an interesting tid bit; his latest release was created entirely from a computer! Absolutely no hardware synths or beat boxes were used. That says something about the power of music software these days as the production quality of his latest is quite nice. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] who stole the soul?
You're suggesting that people actually grow INTO a sound, be it Punk, Detroit techno or whatever. No. I am suggesting that as i grew up..I was familiar with a certain sound. The sound I enjoyed most at the time. I don't agree with you that one has to be introduced to a certain sound or style, and that the first encounters with any new musical style are the best or strongest you can have. I agree with what you are saying here, however that was not my point. What I am trying to say is...for me, the musical style of the present was what I began listening to in huge quantities. I adapted to it. I enjoyed it. Its not to say that I wont like anythjing else, but this is what I was familiar with. I find this philosophy that every generation has it's idols disturbing. People are not computers where you download a certain operation system every other year (=musical trends), and once you've passed your youth you're stuck with the music you listened to. Of course not. Music is culture, and culture has the ability to survive thousands of years, there's no sell-by date in it, it doesn't lose it's energy like a battery. Once again..agreed. However i was responding to the individual who was speaking of seeing things get worse. I listen to alot of music that wasnt popular for my generation. But I can also relate alot music of my generation and yes you are right...i like it hard and bangin. mike
Re: [313] who stole the soul?
Hey Ken, a. it was a joke, I happen to be a blue-eyed devil myself. b. that message was sent offlist, it is rude to post private mail. Sorry, I didn't notice that and thought I hit reply instead of reply to all so I worte 313 in. My bad. c. Race does have a lot to do with it. White folks who were raised on pop music do not want to hear soulful dance music because it is too much of a stretch from the music they normally listen to. Brothers are not going to the trance parties, it is white kids. Trance music is pop with a kick drum, it is white, dumb, and musically unadventurous people that love it. And don't tell me that Humpty does not draw a very dumb and unfunky white crowd, I know you know better. People go to motor to drink and hit on chicks, they are not there for the music, That's kinbd of an over-generalization. I know a lot of people who *only* go there if there's someone playing that they want to hear. if you analyze the crowd and think about what you are seeing, you will come to the same conclusion. these days many black people do not support the stuff because it is not perceived as black enough, or soulful enough. D-wynn does not even play good records on saturdays, he plays for a motor crowd, which is dumb and white. He played some pretty good tracks last Sat., man. It isn't a pleasant thing to say, but it is the truth. Another thing, and this is going to get me in huge trouble, but who even wants to go to motor anymore? Honestly, everyone I know is bored to death of the place, and the only reason anybody still goes is because there are no real alternatives. That's 100% true and I don't think many people would disagree with you. As for why Detroit doesn't support its best and brightest, I can think of a number of reasons. For one, intelligent techno people are getting old, even us newschool youngsters who were into it in the mid-90's are getting older. We have jobs, some of us have kids, and we all have responsibilities. Also, most of us who have been around long enough to know the difference between Humpty and Dwynn are starting to get bored with the whole idea. How many years to you have to hang out at the club before you start to get the idea? Third, times are changing, people are not going out like they used to, it is 1982 again, just look through a new issue of Vogue. music is changing, it isn't 84 anymore. The crowds in detroit are totally segregated, commercial radio is totally segregated, unless you are Eminem or racially anonymous (godfather) you aint getting played on WJLB. 96.3 or 89x wont play you unless you are white, or you music is completely and utterly white(re hootie) radio is putting people into their particular racial boxes, and they are not listening outside of those boxes. Black people go to the cabaret, and white people go to raves. This is hitting anybody who is playing music that does not fit into one of those boxes really hard. Techno isn't purist black music, there is a ton of white influence in Detroit Techno, it is Kraftwerk and Parliament in an elevator. It is too black for the white people who do not want to stretch, and too white for black people who want to hear black music at the club. I thought music was music. Didn't know you can color sound. The crowd that did support it is getting old, like it our not, our scene is aging, and young kids are not taking up our slack. I say it is just as well. How many more 909 records do we really need? Derrick May was right, this dance music does not have the charisma to last. If you think things are bad now, wait another 5 years. it has been beaten to death, and it isn't special anymore. oh wow, another 12 dance record, and the reverb algorithms that is in fashion this season are so much better than the reverbs they were using last year. Wow, instead of using 909 closed hats, they are using acoustic hats to play the exact same shuffled 909 rhythm. How many dance records are actually techno? aren't you sick of knowing that the break will come every 8 bars, and that there will probably be a breakdown every 64 bars...? There are all these rules for making a proper techno record, and it is just so tired and boring. Wow you're jaded. I know that I sound like a bitter and jaded old-young man, I accept and acknowledge it. The reason I am such a jerk about it is because I do care about music, and I take the things that people like derrick may said about techno back in the day seriously. People are just rehashing the same f***ing record over and over for money or status. all these records that are coming put now are raping and s***ting on something that was once special and pure. Where is the real innovation, people make the same track over and over, they just process it a little different, put some different drum sounds on it, and they are lauded as geniuses. The reason people are not coming to the club anymore is because detroit is not making music that is so vibrant and irresistible that
Re: [313] Yet another Track ID
dominatrix 'dominatrix sleeps to night' originally released on streetwise, then on warlock. it's avaialble on warlock classics. it's a new york electro/freestyle classic from 1984. it's been sampled to all hell. one of the best is on frankie bones 'women beat their men' as voodoo doll on breaking bones records (1989) which also samples voodoo ray. james [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/01/2000 07:18:19 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: [313] Yet another Track ID Ok since every1 has been putting these ID's up, figured I would add one which I would love to have. Derrick May's live at fuse. The phrase, women beat their menand men beat on the drums. with a continuosly beautiful tribal drum session going on. Thanks. Mike - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] richard harvey explanation
darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED]: But there still remains this weird question about what's up with the DE9 artist naming... When you put DE9 into that new microsoft media player, all the artists names come up on each track and title. Well, to make a long story short, here's how it comes up- richie hawtin : dumped richie hawtin : b2 richie hawtin : road to rio richie hawtin : b1 richie hawtin : A2 richie hawtin : A1 There are four of Richie's tracks on the DE9 CD; these being the four Orange mixes (Orange/Minus 1, Orange/Minus 2, Minus/Orange 2 and Minus/Orange 1). I don't know if the MS player pulls track info from CDDB or what, but like many Microsoft products it's obviously producing erroneous results. ;) - Craig
Re: [313] who stole the soul?
So basically summing up your reply to Mike, all you have to add to this thread is belittling Mike's long, thoughtful message. Even though Mike is offering a great deal of generalizations and minimizations, what he is saying is a personal opinion. People seem to think you can cover all of the bases and have some sort of perfect discussion full of examples/counterexamples, and exceptions. The reality of argument isn't really like that though. So jumping on Mike's ass and offering idiotic one-liners to waste the bandwidth of the list isn't going to make arguing anymore perfect. Yes, hugh, you are exactly right. music is music, and you can't color music. You certainly CAN however, color the politics of music, and the business of music. The culture of music can also be colored by the aforementioned business and politics. This is the point I believe Mike is trying to make. That's kinbd of an over-generalization. I know a lot of people who *only* go there if there's someone playing that they want to hear. He played some pretty good tracks last Sat., man. That's 100% true and I don't think many people would disagree with you. I thought music was music. Didn't know you can color sound. Wow you're jaded. And all in 10 years or less, huh.
Re: [313] tadd mullinix...new skool
I finally got to hear this album in its entirety and I think it is a fantastic piece of work. Whereas Autechre seems to put the crazy broken beats on the forefront, and have the melodies and harmonies in the background, Tadd seems to take the opposite approach while keeping the emotion of Autechre's best works. This CD also has an upbeatness that Autechre and their clones don't have or perhaps even wish for. It's a refreshing 50 minutes of sound. Mr. Mullinix is only going to get better, and this inspires me quite a bit. I believe Tadd quite a bit responsible for sparking my personal love for music. My appreciation for techno, soul, jazz, and rock n roll, all began by borrowing cd's from this guy and taking my first trips down to record time with him way back in high school. It makes me happy to see his profile rising, and people realizing what a talented individual he is. n8 Doing something I have not yet hear come from Detroit, Tad strongly refelects the school of Warp and IDM Detroit fans on the CD. Broken noises layered with broken beats sounds, the influence of british idm combined with detroit obscurity is reprezented.(yo:). Not to mention a fancy dancy pict of Tadd inside. For a debut, the art and design is done professional and well done. The release party is Saturday October 14th at Motor 9-2am David Alvarado Mathew Dear and Tadd Mullinex w/ Carlos Souffront Todd Osborn in the study. support the local. yos d _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] who stole the soul?
--- Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So basically summing up your reply to Mike, all you have to add to this thread is belittling Mike's long, thoughtful message. Even though Mike is offering a great deal of generalizations and minimizations, what he is saying is a personal opinion. People seem to think you can cover all of the bases and have some sort of perfect discussion full of examples/counterexamples, and exceptions. The reality of argument isn't really like that though. So jumping on Mike's ass and offering idiotic one-liners to waste the bandwidth of the list isn't going to make arguing anymore perfect. Yes, hugh, you are exactly right. music is music, and you can't color music. You certainly CAN however, color the politics of music, and the business of music. The culture of music can also be colored by the aforementioned business and politics. This is the point I believe Mike is trying to make. Jeezuz, I'm not trying to colour music. I'm not throwing bricks at the Israelis, I've not put sanctions on the Iraqis, I've not dammed up the Euphrates... I don't hurt anybody... Sh*t, blacks don't have to sit at the back of the bus anymore What's this coloured politics you're talking about? Tell me, I'd like to know. The governments sh*t on everyone unless you're loaded. They only love money... that's that... No colour involved there... what's up? Do you wanna make people angry or something? Someone'll get booted for this kinda stuff... l8r, Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
advent website?
Does anyone happen to know if there is a website for the advent? or for their label it would be greatly appreciated. Kindest Regards, Rudy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] advent website?
I don't think there is a site on the advent, however, there is this site.. with an interview w/ cisco that is rather interesting and some other stuff that is as well. www.pitchadjust.com Lorie On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Rudy Delgado wrote: Does anyone happen to know if there is a website for the advent? or for their label it would be greatly appreciated. Kindest Regards, Rudy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] BT
if we want to get technical, he is from Flatrock, MDi don't blame him for leaving. not much there that is good. -Original Message- From: darw_n [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:50 AM To: Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: Re: [313] BT he's from Washington DC and we have him booked next week (to my chagrin)... From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [313] BT To be fair, he is a great person, very approachable, very extrovert in an 'LA' kinda way though he is from Maryland in Washington, it's just that I can't stand his music (too derivative to my ears and just doesn't appeal) and I think you'll find that there could be a sudden thread why BT sucks as he is seen as ideologically distant from most of the music discussed on 313. He has had formal musical training at Berklee College but left and worked on sessions with Salt-N-Pepa and even did the incidental music for Dr Dre and Snoop Doggy Dogg's Murder Was The Case (true!) - all these unlikely things like that. He's been working with Peter Gabriel of late, I believe. Many see him as one of the progenitors of progressive house, as he spent time in the UK and was taken under the wing of Sasha and signed to Perfecto, which he later left. His music is going more down the breaktrance route at the moment. To bring it back to 313 I think Carl Craig did a remix for him? He was a colleague of Deep Dish's very, very early on but they had some kind of differences. I have no doubt that he will blow up in the US sometime, he has MTV all over him. He moved to LA to chase more movie work. Hey peeps, I have recently become intrigued by BT and was wondering if anyone could give me some input on what you think about Brian TranseauI would love to know if anyone likes him besides me. I love it.. thanx angel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
D hostel Help
a 313 member is visiting from Australia and staying at a hostel type place downtown, he said in the grand circus/Fox Theater area... any one got a name/number for this place? thanks tourguide Diana _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Hard House
Ok. recently I have been getting into the UK hard house stuff. lisa lashes, tom harding, judge jules(more trancy), fergi..stuff like that. any1 know any good websites? or just know any info on this stuff? any US dj's spin this?? mike d.
Re: [313] D hostel Help-NM
nevermind...its the park ave. thanks From: Diana Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] D hostel Help Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 16:29:20 GMT a 313 member is visiting from Australia and staying at a hostel type place downtown, he said in the grand circus/Fox Theater area... any one got a name/number for this place? thanks tourguide Diana _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
who stole the soul?
The reason people are not coming to the club anymore is because detroit is not making music that is so vibrant and irresistible that people feel they need to be at our gigs. Detroit needs to go back to Deep Space and bring something back that is so out there that people will go nuts for it. I dont know, i have to disagree. Everytime I start thinking that Detroit Techno has become monotonous, and following the same old patterns, I see something, or hear something that totally reminds me why I am proud to be a Detroiter. For example, the first time I heard jaguar, the first time I saw T-1000 spin, the first time I heard Red Planet, the first time I heard Changes of Life, Kevin Sandurson's last set at Motor- I was moved and inspired on different levels each time. I knew Detroit had not only the rich musical History, but has the abilty to progress, and make music that can not only be appreciated by Ekko Thugs, and Kandi Kids, but by Detroits own Techno elitists. Also keep in mind that there are hunderds of thousands of kids in the Detroit are and millions across the world who know nothing about our music, and once they are exposed to it, are completely changed. To some of us, this old school sound is still completly new, and we cant get enough of it. One of the reasons why I am so into the music here though is its great diversity. Just look at labels like Transmat, Planet E, Underground Resistance, Axis, Pure Sonik, Minus, Red Planet, Direct Beat, 430 West, Purpose Maker etc. There are a good 4 or 5 differnt styles of Electronic Music right there, but due to the fact that they are all made in Detroit, we just call them all techno. Our music is always evolving and constantly changing yet still keeping that soul, that funk that this town was built on. Sorry if this comes off as too cheesey, but this is a debate I constanty get in with trance and house fans, so its easy for me to just rant. -christos
Re: [313] Hard House... (?!?!?!?)
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok. recently I have been getting into the UK hard house stuff. lisa lashes, tom harding, judge jules(more trancy), fergi..stuff like that. any1 know any good websites? or just know any info on this stuff? any US dj's spin this?? mike d. ummm... maybe there is a Hard house mailing list... I've been there, done that in my goa days. Everyone is into hard house around here... Lisa Lashes is coming to our local club Ikon and Diva shortly. Previous guests to Ikon have been Jason Donovan, S Club 7 and the Galaxy FM crew. They all kinda interconnect in my mind... Err, yeah and Julesy rocks yeah, err... bangin' as they say... I think.. hm. Hey, you wanna come to Gatecrasher with me?. I'd like to take this chance to warn you away from the commercialist dj's. John 00 Fleming is okay I spose... sheesh, what am I saying?!?!?!?!?!??!?! Nick (Dj Pacific:) Ps. You're joking right? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
Tory techno
From today's Guardian newspaper, discussing the new stage props and backdrops to be used at this year's Conservative Party conference which starts today: And, in a further change to get pacemakers racing, string quartets have been replaced with rousing techno music. Somehow I doubt it...
Carl Craig/Moodymann in NYC : Opinions?
Alright, NY area 313-ers. Any opinions on the show last Friday? My opinion? Moodymann's set was sloppy, self indulgent and somehow interesting, for the first 20 mins. Plus, i thought his c. 1982 Prince-isms behind the mic were pretty funny. But I expected something tighter. Carl Craig's set was a joy to hear and watch, but unfortunately he went on waaay too late and any energy I had for dancing was sapped. Great to see him do a live E2-E4, though. Some folks i spoke to afterwards hated the show, though. One said it was overall so sloppy in execution that its no wonder Americans ( I'm assuming my friend who made this comment was referring to the US record buying public) don't take 313 music/ artists seriously. Jorge _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
track ID requests from dj diz' sets
dj diz seems seems to be the best dj i have listened so far. and i wanna see him play in NYC ! i have listened to some of his sets on sonic and i loved nearly every single vinyl he has touched. These are the ones i ask for you guys to identify as they have lyrics: 1st one is from his club set, it goes something like... i aint got the funk... honey.. he's got the funk and the 2nd tune is right after this one, it goes... you are the future.. the future is you.. you are the future.. i see the future.. i see it.. the future is you... the 3rd one is also after the 2nd and goes... i am happy... yea... i am happy.. loving.. feeling.. rising.. climbing.. feeling like i never felt.. before.. tossing, turning, reaching for you.. have the feeling never had; boy.. i am happy.. in this world.. i am happy.. as long as this world has you and the last one is from another set of him.. it is a wonderful acapella and goes smt like.. life... whatever you want from life.. whatver you need from life... blablablabla... life... whatever you want from life.. if you know any other tune Dj Diz loves playing frequently, please post it. also i have a couple of dj friends, they all loved his sets, but it seems that none of them knows any track this guy plays. Do you know which Labels dj diz loves most? these are lame questions of course. but i loved these songs very much. thanks for your help rufus __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
dj cam
does anyone know if Cam has come to detroit or is planning to tour here. Or at least somewhere in the midwest. I would really like to check him out. mg
R. Harvey explanation?
Interesting. But, does this 'Dean Cole' do everything under a pseudonym? I only mention this because: 1. Regis: Gymnastics (Downwards) credits Richard Harvey with the photograph 2. V/A: Hard Education (Downwards) states that 2 Female tracks are written by R. Harvey 3. Female: Angel Plague (Downwards) credits the layout design to R. Harvey BTW, the (all-User) Serial Scratch mix cd is well worth picking up. Wes On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, janos wrote: Hi again friends... Dean Cole AKA Richard Harvey AKA User records, first came into contact with music while attending various heavy blues parties. His uncle operated the legendary ROADBLOCK Sound System. The ACID HOUSE explosion of 88 took hold of the fifteen year olds imagination and was soon experimenting with Cheap keyboards drum machines. Various trips to New York brought another influence the mighty 'Franky Bones', creating sampling brought new possibilities to Cole's approach to making music. He purchased a sampler and began to utilize rhythms and sounds from various sources to create heavy up-to date trax with tip off the hat to the early innovators of dance electronica. Dean Cole prefers to remain in the background giving max respect to the originators. While people may criticize his methods, there is no argument to the power of his trax on the dance floor. It really is a case of 'Shut Up and Dance'. And once again: It's all here... User records http://www.sonox.com/label.box?id=CO397760e6cd224 00A http://www.sonox.com/label.box?id=CO3977616c75a67 Corrsion http://www.sonox.com/label.box?id=CO39775e70b3c77 Peace janos And I believe that richard harvey is also an alias... At 11:39 PM -0700 10/1/00, john holmes wrote: richard harvey is not richie hawtin, richard harvey is from london, he is also know as user which is some of his latest work. the user tracks are the ones that appear on the decks, efx, 909 disc. hopefully this brings some clarity to you. troy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] BT / Software music
monolake is on the developing team of native instruments, and they practically use nothing BUT reaktor... Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/Funque Droppings/LL/Simple Muzik/Deep Night Essentials - Original Message - From: Todd Gys [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jongsma, K.J.' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 4:38 PM Subject: RE: [313] BT / Software music I've heard that some of the Chain Reaction peeps like monolake have run entire live PA's running only Reaktor and using a midi-knob controller to shape the sound.
Re: [313] Carl Craig/Moodymann in NYC : Opinions?
welll, that's funny you say that about Moodymann and his Princeisms, I took a girlfriend with me who doesn't know this music and she thought he was dramatic and hilarious She also thought the same thing about C.C. I saw a friend there who felt that it should have been held in a smaller venue since it was so conceptual I must admit that I love the music but that I expected more probably because I am caught-up in live performance norms (Prince! Femi Kuti etc.) which is inappropriate because this is a different kind of music. I got one of the records that Moodymann passed out but I haven't played it yet I only stayed for 30 minutes of Carl's set because I had to get-up early in the morning and drive back to Detroit!! but he is dramatic and I liked he light show behind him. I am learning a vocabulary to speak in about these kinds of shows so I hope I've said something worthwhile. But I can say that I LOVE DJ Hannah, she plays soulful disco, techno, R B and house classics. She is one of my favorite DJs and that was my second time hearing her outside of the DEMF archived webcast. now that I'm home, where do I go? and I want some old records ( R B, disco, house,techno)cheap. :-) Peace, Five
RE: [313] BT / Software music
Aphex Twin, along with most of the Braindance and clicks/cuts scene (Basic Channel, Chain Reaction, Force Inc., Mille Plateaux, etc.) use software for the Macintosh called Max and MSP. check it out at: www.cycling74.com Ryan Heard -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 6:52 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: [313] BT / Software music Aphex Twin creates most of his music on his laptop. AFAIK was 90% of 'Window Licker' created on a powerbook. He did most of his recent livsets on a powerbook. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not really into his music at all, but an interesting tid bit; his latest release was created entirely from a computer! Absolutely no hardware synths or beat boxes were used. That says something about the power of music software these days as the production quality of his latest is quite nice. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] digweed
Alright all, give me the scoop on john and sasha _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
The Mayday Mix
This was a 1997 Derek May mix cd I looked around for a long time to find, and when I found one it turned out that what it contained was software for AOL. Does anyone know if it actually exists and even better is there anyone who can burn me a copy? (I have the packaging!) Baby Diddy
Re: [313] BT
cyclone said: To be fair, he is a great person, very approachable, very extrovert in an 'LA' kinda way though he is from Maryland in Washington, Note to all Aussies: Maryland is not in Washington. Maryland is a state. Washington is a state. Washington, DC is a federal creation, it is the District of Columbia. Maryland borders DC. cyclone also said: I have no doubt that he will blow up in the US sometime, he has MTV all over him. He moved to LA to chase more movie work. in my personal opinion, he already did blow up... what about that Tori Amos remix a few years back... he has certainly headlined a ton of rave-o-ramas and has done mixes for a bunch of mix series right? i mean, what is blow up nowadays. now... whatever... i couldn't resist this f*cking piece of dreck of an icky... peace, h
Re: [313] digweed
please do not bring up this kind of music on the 313 list. ever ever again. thank you very very much.
Re: [313] digweed
I really HOPE this is a jokeif not you got the wrong mailing list From: Lisa McEntire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] digweed Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 12:33:35 MDT Alright all, give me the scoop on john and sasha _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] BT
Actually I am not that dumb. :) I meant Marilyn. I have the names confused - that's my 22 hour working day for you. My bad for choosing a career where you get paid $2 an hour or something. By 'blowing up' I meant he will get *even* bigger. cyclone said: To be fair, he is a great person, very approachable, very extrovert in an 'LA' kinda way though he is from Maryland in Washington, Note to all Aussies: Maryland is not in Washington. Maryland is a state. Washington is a state. Washington, DC is a federal creation, it is the District of Columbia. Maryland borders DC. cyclone also said: I have no doubt that he will blow up in the US sometime, he has MTV all over him. He moved to LA to chase more movie work. in my personal opinion, he already did blow up... what about that Tori Amos remix a few years back... he has certainly headlined a ton of rave-o-ramas and has done mixes for a bunch of mix series right? i mean, what is blow up nowadays. now... whatever... i couldn't resist this f*cking piece of dreck of an icky... peace, h
digweed
the scoop on them is...I'd rather be trapped on an airplane listening to the mouths of screaming babes while 100 people line up on a chalk board scrapping their nails down it, while singing operatic Eminem and Ted Nugent (to put some 313 content in) songsthan listen to that poster/pretty boy trance crap. ...to put it lightly. but, hey...to each his/her own!tra la la, skippity doo:) d _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Carl Craig/Moodymann in NYC : Opinions?
My opinion? Moodymann's set was sloppy, self indulgent and somehow interesting, for the first 20 mins. Plus, i thought his c. 1982 Prince-isms behind the mic were pretty funny. But I expected something tighter. Tell me you didnt expect a set that fit together like a puzzle. i think KDJ is one of the best dj's out there. I find your use of the word sloppy disrespectful. Kenny gives you what you dont expect to hear. god forbid his tracks didnt fit together like a Jeff Mills set.. Ill take shades of Jae over The Bells any day. Some folks i spoke to afterwards hated the show, though. One said it was overall so sloppy in execution that its no wonder Americans ( I'm assuming my friend who made this comment was referring to the US record buying public) don't take 313 music/artists seriously. So sloppy in execution? what did they think it was a gymnastics meet? Its no wonder that people like that make comments like that when they come to events like that and expect to see an MTV stage show. Maybe next time carl or kenny play we could ask the NYC ballet to dance around them to mask the sloppiness and help out their execution. Vez _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] digweed
the scoop on them is...I'd rather be trapped on an airplane listening to the mouths of screaming babes while 100 people line up on a chalk board scrapping their nails down it, while singing operatic Eminem and Ted Nugent (to put some 313 content in) songsthan listen to that poster/pretty boy trance crap. ...to put it lightly. but, hey...to each his/her own!tra la la, skippity doo:) d Oh, Diana. You have not known hell unless you have spent 3 hours in a packed Roxy (NYC) with Mr. Paul Oakenfold and the masses who love him. 3 hours of thump without a hint of funk. I would rather french a lemur than go through a night of trance again. No joke. ; ) J _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] digweed
I smell gunpowder. Is there a barrel of fish nearby? Doris x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x 'Opium? No! Cocaine? No! The Great American Brain Killer Is Dance Music!' --Portland Oregonian, 1932 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] digweed
hey don't sugar coat it. tell the list how you really feel ;) -Original Message- From: Diana Potts [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 3:31 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] digweed the scoop on them is...I'd rather be trapped on an airplane listening to the mouths of screaming babes while 100 people line up on a chalk board scrapping their nails down it, while singing operatic Eminem and Ted Nugent (to put some 313 content in) songsthan listen to that poster/pretty boy trance crap. ...to put it lightly. but, hey...to each his/her own!tra la la, skippity doo:) d _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] The Mayday Mix
on 10/1/00 3:16 AM, David Hampson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was a 1997 Derek May mix cd I looked around for a long time to find, and when I found one it turned out that what it contained was software for AOL. Remember kids, inspect those used CD's carefully! Does anyone know if it actually exists Yes it does exist. And it's worth finding. Derrick May Mix-Up vol. 5 AKA The Mayday Mix Sony Music Japan, 1997 cat# 487565 2 -- There4IM
Re: [313] richard harvey explanation
There are four of Richie's tracks on the DE9 CD; these being the four Orange mixes (Orange/Minus 1, Orange/Minus 2, Minus/Orange 2 and Minus/Orange 1). I don't know if the MS player pulls track info from CDDB or what, but like many Microsoft products it's obviously producing erroneous results. That's what I thought to, but every CD I put in, is completely accurate, my Cure CD's (don't laugh) actually have the year next to each track... No, the data is certainly entered in like that... I am very curious about this... darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com
dialectic at one x (Detroit DB) tonight.
I know Monday is not the biggest bar night, but if you or someone you know is looking for some of the slammingest D B and Jungle in detroit. come down to one x michigan ave about 3/4mile north of trumbull on west side of street DJ Watts DJ Seoul guest DJ CruiseControl 3$ cover
Moby
Just thought this was an interesting piece of news I received about everyone's favorite artist. Courtesy of Sideline news. Moby phones home Mute succes Moby is to work together with John Williams, who composed the soundtracks for toppers as ET and its predecessor Close Encounters Of The Third Kind. Moby and John will be composing the music for a brand new computer game. The duo will also be writing the score for the cartoon Astro Knights, an animated series about aliens that live on the moon. Moby, 28, will also be writing a special dance-track for an Astro Knights character, the space pirate Bertha Budd. That dance-track will most probably be issued as a single. Moby meets the king of orchestral pop music. Should be wonderful, really. Josh Landau phase 10, the grind WCBN-FM 88.3 FM, Ann Arbor www.wcbn.org
Re: [313] bt
Hi all. Longtime listener, first time caller. BT also did some famous tori amos remixes, if I recall correctly, and also wrote the soundtrack to the movie Go. He is big on his formal training; he's proud to not be a DJ to the point that he seems kind of disdainful of the practice. Anyway, he recently kicked off a US tour for that moment in still life album and did a stop out here in Arizona last weekend. They made a big deal about how it was live, no turntables, but it still sounded like mostly looped breakbeats to me (and there WAS some anonymous guy in the back spinning - heh). That, and a healthy dose of guitar rock during the last hour. I wasn't sure what to think, but my primary feeling as I left was that I was glad to have heard the local DJs who opened up for him :) Rob Original Post: He has had formal musical training at Berklee College but left and worked on sessions with Salt-N-Pepa and even did the incidental music for Dr Dre and Snoop Doggy Dogg's Murder Was The Case (true!) - all these unlikely things like that. He's been working with Peter Gabriel of late, I believe. Many see him as one of the progenitors of progressive house, as he spent time in the UK and was taken under the wing of Sasha and signed to Perfecto, which he later left. His music is going more down the breaktrance route at the moment. = __ rob kent | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://cc.kzoo.edu/~k96rk01 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Carl Craig/Moodymann in NYC : Opinions?
Sounds like you aren't letting someone assert their opinion. Seems like there's a lot of that on the list today. So sloppy in execution? what did they think it was a gymnastics meet? Its no wonder that people like that make comments like that when they come to events like that and expect to see an MTV stage show. Maybe next time carl or kenny play we could ask the NYC ballet to dance around them to mask the sloppiness and help out their execution. Vez _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] who stole the soul?
One of the reasons why I am so into the music here though is its great diversity. Just look at labels like Transmat, Planet E, Underground Resistance, Axis, Pure Sonik, Minus, Red Planet, Direct Beat, 430 West, Purpose Maker etc. There are a good 4 or 5 differnt styles of Electronic Music right there, but due to the fact that they are all made in Detroit, we just call them all techno. Our music is always evolving and constantly changing yet still keeping that soul, that funk that this town was built on. that's an interesting point. a friend of mine is trying to compile a definitive list of all electronic music subgenres, and asked me a bunch of questions about techno, like whether such-and-such is a real subgenre, or which artist would be most representative of that category. i found it really hard to give definitive answers on what detroit techno is, or who would be an essential minimal techno artist. it's encouraging that the music is diverse enough that it can't easily be boxed into discrete categories (i play UK acid-tech-trance, which is infinitely superior to you UK acid-NU-NRG.) glyn
Fw: [313] R. Harvey explanation?
richard harvey is not regis/female to my knowledge. but here's the scoop, a well-kept secret. karl o'conner - to many known as regis - is also pete sutton - to many known as female. he owns and runs downwards. i think he must be having a laugh trying to fool everyone - on gymnastics it says: all tracks written by regis, recording assistant pete sutton. in the press info for karl o'conner/pete sutton on tresor it goes on and on about how it's their first co-production since bla, bla, bla... and the examples of this quite amusing trickery just goes on and on and on... believe me this is true! Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/Funque Droppings/LL/Simple Muzik/Deep Night Essentials/Set.Go/Aalborg.DK - Original Message - From: Charles Prince [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: janos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 7:25 PM Subject: [313] R. Harvey explanation? Interesting. But, does this 'Dean Cole' do everything under a pseudonym? I only mention this because: 1. Regis: Gymnastics (Downwards) credits Richard Harvey with the photograph 2. V/A: Hard Education (Downwards) states that 2 Female tracks are written by R. Harvey 3. Female: Angel Plague (Downwards) credits the layout design to R. Harvey BTW, the (all-User) Serial Scratch mix cd is well worth picking up. Wes On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, janos wrote: Hi again friends... Dean Cole AKA Richard Harvey AKA User records, first came into contact with music while attending various heavy blues parties. His uncle operated the legendary ROADBLOCK Sound System. The ACID HOUSE explosion of 88 took hold of the fifteen year olds imagination and was soon experimenting with Cheap keyboards drum machines. Various trips to New York brought another influence the mighty 'Franky Bones', creating sampling brought new possibilities to Cole's approach to making music. He purchased a sampler and began to utilize rhythms and sounds from various sources to create heavy up-to date trax with tip off the hat to the early innovators of dance electronica. Dean Cole prefers to remain in the background giving max respect to the originators. While people may criticize his methods, there is no argument to the power of his trax on the dance floor. It really is a case of 'Shut Up and Dance'. And once again: It's all here... User records http://www.sonox.com/label.box?id=CO397760e6cd224 00A http://www.sonox.com/label.box?id=CO3977616c75a67 Corrsion http://www.sonox.com/label.box?id=CO39775e70b3c77 Peace janos And I believe that richard harvey is also an alias... At 11:39 PM -0700 10/1/00, john holmes wrote: richard harvey is not richie hawtin, richard harvey is from london, he is also know as user which is some of his latest work. the user tracks are the ones that appear on the decks, efx, 909 disc. hopefully this brings some clarity to you. troy __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] who stole the soul?
I think therein lies much of the appeal of Detroit techno... particularly the classic stuff, is that the ambience of the music itself has the ability to grab certain people. I'm all for the bangin' stuff myself, but it's the ambience and soul in place of the bang that I like about D-techno so much. Matt E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://magicmattkelly.tripod.com I think the fact that you might not like most of the D-techno has more to do with the fact that you like more energetic music. Maybe D-techno hasn't got the bang enough for you or something...? Proffit
Re: [313] digweed
yeah does seem pretty silly to mention Digweed, Sasha on this list, but let's try to be a bit open minded here... so, give the poor girl a break, probably doesnt know it's a bleep, bloop, techno list only. starting sound like a bunch of disgruntled junglists here. -ruth In a message dated Mon, 2 Oct 2000 3:31:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Diana Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the scoop on them is...I'd rather be trapped on an airplane listening to the mouths of screaming babes while 100 people line up on a chalk board scrapping their nails down it, while singing operatic Eminem and Ted Nugent (to put some 313 content in) songsthan listen to that poster/pretty boy trance crap.
Re: [313] The Mayday Mix
Remember kids, inspect those used CD's carefully! I bought the cd new but it was from a place I couldn't take it back to conveniently! Yes it does exist. And it's worth finding. Derrick May Mix-Up vol. 5 AKA The Mayday Mix Sony Music Japan, 1997 cat# 487565 2 The one I (don't) have is a UK issue so whether or not it is the same mix I don't know - there are 32 tracks in the mix beginning with Derrick May/Tyree Cooper - Maydays Intro and ending with Silent Phase - Meditive Fusion (Kenny Larkin mix)... BABY DIDDY - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Hampson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [313] The Mayday Mix on 10/1/00 3:16 AM, David Hampson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was a 1997 Derek May mix cd I looked around for a long time to find, and when I found one it turned out that what it contained was software for AOL. Remember kids, inspect those used CD's carefully! Does anyone know if it actually exists Yes it does exist. And it's worth finding. Derrick May Mix-Up vol. 5 AKA The Mayday Mix Sony Music Japan, 1997 cat# 487565 2 -- There4IM
[313]THANX
YOU GUYS ARE THE BESTI LOVED HEARING ALL THE CRAP ABOUT DIGWEED AND BT..XLNTI LOVED GETTING A RISE OUT OF YOU ALLSORRY IF I OFFENDED ANYONE...I WAS JUST JOKING AROUND :) _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
RE: [313]THANX
TROLLER! BAD BAD TROLLER:) honestly tho, i think its so freaking funny when people try to tell other people their music is better because ___ and because ___. respect, people, respect. jeff -Original Message- From: Lisa McEntire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 2:58 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313]THANX YOU GUYS ARE THE BESTI LOVED HEARING ALL THE CRAP ABOUT DIGWEED AND BT..XLNTI LOVED GETTING A RISE OUT OF YOU ALLSORRY IF I OFFENDED ANYONE...I WAS JUST JOKING AROUND :) _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Song ID
I am looking for a Bass track that I think is called Hum on My Nuts. It is an older song that is playa hatin Luke and the 2 Live Crew so it is not Poison Clan or something on Little Joe records. It was on a an old DJ Assault mix CD and the track listing consists of lines from the songs on it, rather then the real title. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have been trying for 5 years to find out what this track is.
