AW: (313) looking for acid (house)
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. September 2004 19:21 An: 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: RE: (313) looking for acid (house) i recently picked up this split he [henrik schwarz] did with some other cat: http://www.discogs.com/release/230974 which is kind of acidic and kind of jacking, and very deep and dirty. its one of my favorite new 12s tom andythepooh.com i agree, this twelve is absolutely brilliant! henrik's track is very good, but i prefer the other side, the track from morten cargo at ease. check his (their?) latest 12: Morten Cargo At Ease - Generation of Swine (Diamonds and Pearls 002), especially those who dig moodymann and theo stuff, incredible versatile stuff: http://www.dnp-music.com/shop/?page=shop/flypageproduct_id=92category_ id=cf9a057b82ec39fe9dcf494647ebac0e talking about acid: the new superdiscount 2 from etienne de crecy and his mates (you surely remember superdiscount vol. 1 roundabout 6 years ago...) seems to have a lot of acid and detroit techno influences, totally different to the more downtempo/house vibe of vol.1 ... but honestly i haven't heard it that properly yet to form an opinion. anyone with some thoughts on this? c.
(313) kooky scientist out west
Hello 313, If anyone is interested in booking the kooky scientist in the western US please get in touch. I've got a gig out in Boulder, CO on October 30th and this is the furthest west I've traveled in some time. A flight share could make a booking more affordable for any of you promoters out there. telepathic regards, the kooky scientist Upcoming Live Electronic Demonstrations: October 30th - Boulder, CO -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 U.S.A. CL # 617.905.9619 http://telepathica.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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dude- quit being a douche. flame off On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: amazing. already the decent conversation flows instead of the typical flamebait. - Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be honest, I'd have to say chicago. there was so much interaction in the early days between the chi-town and detroit heads, as well as the oft spoken about mutual admiration/respect held for each city by the other in the early days. i agree with chicago as the choice, and i think yussel actually articulated all the reasons in the best manner so far. IMO the similarities in chicago house and detroit techno are far greater than their differences. i see two problems with your argument here. One, the hard Berlin sound actually had it's genesis in detroit with jeff mills, rob hood and that crew. and everyone of the detroit figureheads have played (i believe we decided the term was) loop-bangers at some point. i'm agreeing with you that chicago should be considered city number two (or maybe number one given a more panoramic look at the question), but i see no reason to discount berlin (maybe as city number 3?) for city #3 id have to say its either london or berlin. while berlin does have quite an interesting history, especially in reguard to detroit artists and influences, london was the middle ground to getting there. without british journalism, would the chicago and detroit scenes be what they are today? i also agree that techno has been pretty heavily misrepresented by looped banger producers, but thats certainly not strictly a berlin and stockholm thing. i can think of many people still pushing that kind of thing in the uk and the us as well as many other countries (check the global techno email list for more info, though not all of those cats are strictly into looped bangers...). in my mind, detroit and chicago are like the meccas, while london and berlin are the places that have done the most with the music since its invention outside of the mecca cities. tom andythepooh.com
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wait- i think i might have read that wrong... yeah- i think i read that wrong. sorry On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: amazing. already the decent conversation flows instead of the typical flamebait. - Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be honest, I'd have to say chicago. there was so much interaction in the early days between the chi-town and detroit heads, as well as the oft spoken about mutual admiration/respect held for each city by the other in the early days. i agree with chicago as the choice, and i think yussel actually articulated all the reasons in the best manner so far. IMO the similarities in chicago house and detroit techno are far greater than their differences. i see two problems with your argument here. One, the hard Berlin sound actually had it's genesis in detroit with jeff mills, rob hood and that crew. and everyone of the detroit figureheads have played (i believe we decided the term was) loop-bangers at some point. i'm agreeing with you that chicago should be considered city number two (or maybe number one given a more panoramic look at the question), but i see no reason to discount berlin (maybe as city number 3?) for city #3 id have to say its either london or berlin. while berlin does have quite an interesting history, especially in reguard to detroit artists and influences, london was the middle ground to getting there. without british journalism, would the chicago and detroit scenes be what they are today? i also agree that techno has been pretty heavily misrepresented by looped banger producers, but thats certainly not strictly a berlin and stockholm thing. i can think of many people still pushing that kind of thing in the uk and the us as well as many other countries (check the global techno email list for more info, though not all of those cats are strictly into looped bangers...). in my mind, detroit and chicago are like the meccas, while london and berlin are the places that have done the most with the music since its invention outside of the mecca cities. tom andythepooh.com
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oddly... while hood and mills have both moved on from loop bangers in their production, it still seems to be the primary focus of their dj sets. at least what i've heard the past few years. On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] On a related note, I get rather annoyed when people trying to split off hard techno from the Detroit continuum, I think it all has its place and it isn't helpful to try and blame hard techno for everything wrong with techno. i cant speak for everybody, but i think the bias is just because harder techno seems very insulated from other forms of techno. like yussel pointed out earlier, all of the main detroit players have played the hard stuff, and they obviously invented it as well. but they never or rarely play it exclusively, at least not now. mixing it up is whats up if youre going to play harder stuff. i think kenny larkin's set at movement was good, lots of harder loopy stuff but mixed with more melodic stuff as well. every now and then i feel like hearing a full on nothing but banging techno set, but not usually. i think most people feel that way about it on this list tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) kooky scientist out west
fred- i forwarded this to some peeps. maybe someone will be interested. what are our you getting $$$ wise these days? i have an extra room at my place if hotel/$$$ become an issue. would love to get you out here. On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, FRED giannelli wrote: Hello 313, If anyone is interested in booking the kooky scientist in the western US please get in touch. I've got a gig out in Boulder, CO on October 30th and this is the furthest west I've traveled in some time. A flight share could make a booking more affordable for any of you promoters out there. telepathic regards, the kooky scientist Upcoming Live Electronic Demonstrations: October 30th - Boulder, CO -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 U.S.A. CL # 617.905.9619 http://telepathica.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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that should have been private. sorry On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fred- i forwarded this to some peeps. maybe someone will be interested. what are our you getting $$$ wise these days? i have an extra room at my place if hotel/$$$ become an issue. would love to get you out here. On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, FRED giannelli wrote: Hello 313, If anyone is interested in booking the kooky scientist in the western US please get in touch. I've got a gig out in Boulder, CO on October 30th and this is the furthest west I've traveled in some time. A flight share could make a booking more affordable for any of you promoters out there. telepathic regards, the kooky scientist Upcoming Live Electronic Demonstrations: October 30th - Boulder, CO -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 U.S.A. CL # 617.905.9619 http://telepathica.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wait- i think i might have read that wrong... yeah- i think i read that wrong. sorry apparently the way i formatted that didnt make sense to people, they didnt look to see my long reply agreeing with you. its all good, my bad on this one. tom andythepooh.com
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talk like yoda you do yes... ;) On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wait- i think i might have read that wrong... yeah- i think i read that wrong. sorry apparently the way i formatted that didnt make sense to people, they didnt look to see my long reply agreeing with you. its all good, my bad on this one. tom andythepooh.com
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BROOKLYN! any disagreements - frankie or adam will set you straight. james www.jbucknell.com
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-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BROOKLYN! any disagreements - frankie or adam will set you straight. someone should set them straight these days. i dont care what they did 15 years ago, their sets for the past 7 years at least have been on the joker tip. tom andythepooh.com
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I'd have to disagree purely on the existence of this: http://www.discogs.com/release/231289 ;) lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BROOKLYN! any disagreements - frankie or adam will set you straight. james www.jbucknell.com
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adam's come back around. or maybe it's that industrial and electro have come around now who's hatin' ;) On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BROOKLYN! any disagreements - frankie or adam will set you straight. someone should set them straight these days. i dont care what they did 15 years ago, their sets for the past 7 years at least have been on the joker tip. tom andythepooh.com
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adam definately knows whats up, as does frankie, on a good night:) I have nightmares about adams friendster pic. :) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 8:43 PM Subject: RE: (313) If adam's come back around. or maybe it's that industrial and electro have come around now who's hatin' ;) On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BROOKLYN! any disagreements - frankie or adam will set you straight. someone should set them straight these days. i dont care what they did 15 years ago, their sets for the past 7 years at least have been on the joker tip. tom andythepooh.com
(313) run dmc remixes released on sm:)e?
has anyone heard these? have them? if you dont think run dmc is 313 related, you're not me :) -Joe
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Martin Dust wrote: If Detroit is the First City of Techno, which IYHO is the Second... anyone ever tried calling someone in Utrecht? phonenumber for cityhall for instance is: +313 0286 1000 how much more detroit can you get? _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
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On Tuesday, September 21, 2004, at 10:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Er, what about Chicago? they're all gay and like disco. ask Macqueen. (well, thats what I read in a book) p.s. I'm joking again fact fans Imagine my disappointment, then, when I moved to Chicago and discovered that the clubs are NOT filled with gay men and disco. I want my money back. (partially) kidding, Luis
Re: (313) run dmc remixes released on sm:)e?
is that the god awful jason bently travesty? On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, /0 wrote: has anyone heard these? have them? if you dont think run dmc is 313 related, you're not me :) -Joe
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Why has no one mentioned Inkster? Or Belleville itself? Or Ann Arbor? They're cities too! Sorry, alex has been such a cheeky devil in this thread, I wanted in on the game too. -m PS my vote's for whatever special city in the clouds that Moritz Von Oswald clearly lives in. I assume (perhaps incorrectly) that this means Berlin. Every time I hear a Basic Channel / Maurizio / 3MB / Quadrant, I think I've been transported into a Mills set. At 3:51 PM +0100 9/21/04, Martin Dust wrote: If Detroit is the First City of Techno, which IYHO is the Second... Cheers Martin
Re: (313) run dmc remixes released on sm:)e?
RUN-DMC is 313-related insofar as the same kids who were trying to bring the whole hip-hop thing into the D back in '84/85 had no trouble dropping a Kraftwerk tape into their boom boxes: It was of the moment. Though I think most of the preps thought RUN-DMC (and the dude who did the Funky Cold Madina track) were worse than dirt, not everyone was so snooty. And it was just damn funny how DMC were willing to rip off guitar noise. Pardon my private nostalgia. Maybe I'll go watch their Tougher than Leather movie again. Or maybe not. -m On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, /0 wrote: has anyone heard these? have them? if you dont think run dmc is 313 related, you're not me :) -Joe
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I can't put it down to a city but I would say the North of England. I recall that the take up for House/Techno was stonger in Leeds/Manchester/Sheffield. London was still doing its rare groove thang (and moved more towards acid jazz) when the North started to move from Rare Groove to House/Techno. (The club sets were a lot more open too, you would hear all styles of music in one night - gets nostalgic) Rav -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 September 2004 15:51 To: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: (313) If If Detroit is the First City of Techno, which IYHO is the Second... Cheers Martin
AW: (313) If
Hey 313, wazzup...? Mark, where did you get the city in the clouds quote from? Would be interesting to know as city in the clouds could be a poetic translation for the German word Wolkenkuckucksheim - clouds cuckoo's home: Someone living there is something like a loopy lunatic. Wondr if this is what Oswald tried to insinuate? However, trying to find a quote of Oswald stating that, I stumbled across this article about Berlin in 1998 which might be a good read furthering Berlin as being a creative antipode to Detroit. http://homestudio.thing.net/revue/content/eshun.htm (english) - it's about Basic Channel, Chain Reaction and Porter Ricks. And this page is about Berlin, Manchester and Detroit - http://www.circonium.de/index.html (english) - creative hubs that clearly influence each other, no city, idea or person is isolated! It's all intertwined! Peace Kat -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: marc christensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. September 2004 07:04 An: Martin Dust; 313@Hyperreal.Org Betreff: Re: (313) If Why has no one mentioned Inkster? Or Belleville itself? Or Ann Arbor? They're cities too! Sorry, alex has been such a cheeky devil in this thread, I wanted in on the game too. -m PS my vote's for whatever special city in the clouds that Moritz Von Oswald clearly lives in. I assume (perhaps incorrectly) that this means Berlin. Every time I hear a Basic Channel / Maurizio / 3MB / Quadrant, I think I've been transported into a Mills set. At 3:51 PM +0100 9/21/04, Martin Dust wrote: If Detroit is the First City of Techno, which IYHO is the Second... Cheers Martin
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On 22 Sep 2004, at 08:41, Mann, Ravinder wrote: I can't put it down to a city but I would say the North of England. I recall that the take up for House/Techno was stonger in Leeds/Manchester/Sheffield. London was still doing its rare groove thang (and moved more towards acid jazz) when the North started to move from Rare Groove to House/Techno. I'd agree with this, it isn't London or Sheffield - I'm thinking more along Manchester/Birmingham/Berlin. London was way behind Manchester, Sheffield was before and Leeds I know nothing about the early scene - I don't ever remember traveling to a club there - it was always Stoke/Wigan/Manc/Sheff/Mansfield for me... I wasn't asking to start an argument, I really am interested in peoples views. (The club sets were a lot more open too, you would hear all styles of music in one night - gets nostalgic) A lot of people forget this, I remember Inner City being slammed in PWEI at the Hac - people still went nuts. Martin Rav
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For the sake of being mildly controversial, it could be argued that Dusseldorf is city #1 (Kraftwerk) while Detroit is city #2 (Atkins, May, Saunderson co)... In the context of techno music, though, rather than electronic music in a broader sense, I'd definitely plump for Berlin over any city in the UK. However I'd also consider LA, which had a techno scene at around the same time as Detroit's techno scene was emerging (Techno Kut records, etc; a more overtly Cybotron-influenced style with no house characteristics, but it called itself techno). Brendan -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2004 09:51 To: Mann, Ravinder Cc: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: Re: (313) If On 22 Sep 2004, at 08:41, Mann, Ravinder wrote: I can't put it down to a city but I would say the North of England. I recall that the take up for House/Techno was stonger in Leeds/Manchester/Sheffield. London was still doing its rare groove thang (and moved more towards acid jazz) when the North started to move from Rare Groove to House/Techno. I'd agree with this, it isn't London or Sheffield - I'm thinking more along Manchester/Birmingham/Berlin. London was way behind Manchester, Sheffield was before and Leeds I know nothing about the early scene - I don't ever remember traveling to a club there - it was always Stoke/Wigan/Manc/Sheff/Mansfield for me... I wasn't asking to start an argument, I really am interested in peoples views. (The club sets were a lot more open too, you would hear all styles of music in one night - gets nostalgic) A lot of people forget this, I remember Inner City being slammed in PWEI at the Hac - people still went nuts. Martin Rav
Re: (313) Regis
He's got a really tight set at the moment, moves around a bit but has some really nice touches and re-edits. The new BMB stuff is to die for, as is the new Female 12. Cheers Martin On 21 Sep 2004, at 23:31, David Powers wrote: Are any Chicago people going to check out REGIS on Saturday, I am really excited about that show!!! I was disappointed to see someone else in Chicago putting an interesting event on the same night, but I have to check Regis as I do like that style of techno and I don't know if I'll ever get to see him again. On a related note, I get rather annoyed when people trying to split off hard techno from the Detroit continuum, I think it all has its place and it isn't helpful to try and blame hard techno for everything wrong with techno. We don't need superstar DJs to save the world from bad techno. We just need the true music lovers to continue to do their best to support the music they love and spread the word. ~David
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On 22 Sep 2004, at 09:57, Brendan Nelson wrote: For the sake of being mildly controversial, it could be argued that Dusseldorf is city #1 (Kraftwerk) while Detroit is city #2 (Atkins, May, Saunderson co)... Interesting thought, and while it's part of the root cause it's a bit revisionist don't you think? In the context of techno music, though, rather than electronic music in a broader sense, I'd definitely plump for Berlin over any city in the UK. However I'd also consider LA, which had a techno scene at around the same time as Detroit's techno scene was emerging (Techno Kut records, etc; a more overtly Cybotron-influenced style with no house characteristics, but it called itself techno). It's looking like Berlin, more and more... Martin
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Martin. If your interested, in Leeds before the like of KAOS/SOAK, B2B, Banana Repulic and the dare I say it ecstacy crowd there was The Warehouse on a Sat playing a wide array of Dance music (Disco, Groove, House, Techno, Northern Soul, Hip Hop etc) But there were a couple of small clubs one of which was Coconut Grove (Sats) hosted by George and Kevin who went on to form Nightmares On Wax and Phono, cant remember who put on those nights (Thurs). Its here I heard all the early bleepy Warp, Bassic, 808, AGCG sounds along with Detriot and Chicago sounds. Then in the year or so it all seemed to fragment. There was a house/techno crowd and Rap/Soul crowd. Im not sure about Sheffield but Manchester had the Man Alive, PSV, Legend before the Hac became more Dance orientated. But you know that having had a chat with Greg Wilson. Cheers. Rav -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2004 09:51 To: Mann, Ravinder Cc: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: Re: (313) If On 22 Sep 2004, at 08:41, Mann, Ravinder wrote: I can't put it down to a city but I would say the North of England. I recall that the take up for House/Techno was stonger in Leeds/Manchester/Sheffield. London was still doing its rare groove thang (and moved more towards acid jazz) when the North started to move from Rare Groove to House/Techno. I'd agree with this, it isn't London or Sheffield - I'm thinking more along Manchester/Birmingham/Berlin. London was way behind Manchester, Sheffield was before and Leeds I know nothing about the early scene - I don't ever remember traveling to a club there - it was always Stoke/Wigan/Manc/Sheff/Mansfield for me... I wasn't asking to start an argument, I really am interested in peoples views. (The club sets were a lot more open too, you would hear all styles of music in one night - gets nostalgic) A lot of people forget this, I remember Inner City being slammed in PWEI at the Hac - people still went nuts. Martin Rav
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First a disclaimer: I was not living in Manchester at this time (although I was born here), I was also far too young for all this, so every bit of info I have is 2nd hand. Has anyone got the link for McCready's page btw? Also, popping to see my mate at lunch. He'll put us straight, he was selling records to the Hacienda djs at the time (from '85 onwards I believe). So, he can tell us exactly who was buying what and when. But yeah, just to re-iterate, don't confuse the early house nights at the Hac with 'Madchester', thats much later! For what it's worth, I don't think there is a second city of techno, Detroit is a one off, and anything else that compares is strong enough in it's own right to have it's own little name for what it does. e.g. Sheffield, Manchester, Chicago, New York etc And also, Chicago provided the majority of the soundtrack to the Hacienda I believe, as opposed to Detroit. By the time the Detroit records were around, I think they were playing alot of Italian stuff, and also English stuff too. Of course, it was a massive part of it, but I think it's stretching it to say that Detroit was the main contributor to Hacienda music. One of me bessie mates was in there three nights a week at this time and will gladly tell anyone that will listen what records they were playing. Also, hacienda opened '81 I think? My mate has a membership card from '83, as alot of the bands he was well into used to play there alot. The music policy changed pretty radically over the years, but my mate tells me that while they played alot of rock and wave and what have you, the policy was still 'danceable beat' if you know what I mean. When did Greg Wilson do his thing there? Didn't they stop his Friday's to do house instead? Was that '87? or was that earlier?? This was after the midweek things were getting ridiculous I think? I think Wednesday and Thursday were the nights for some time. I think they HAD to move it to the weekend too as it was getting out of hand I believe. My mate tells crazy crazy crazy stories of these nights. Anyone know Greg to ask him? Martin? Robin? and also, don't take this as gospel, I might have a few things wrong, I'll make sure I check my facts. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Im not sure about Sheffield but Manchester had the Man Alive Martin, you're playing in the old Man Alive on Saturday. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Alex, http://www.mccready.cwc.net/contents.html Rav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2004 10:34 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) If First a disclaimer: I was not living in Manchester at this time (although I was born here), I was also far too young for all this, so every bit of info I have is 2nd hand. Has anyone got the link for McCready's page btw? Also, popping to see my mate at lunch. He'll put us straight, he was selling records to the Hacienda djs at the time (from '85 onwards I believe). So, he can tell us exactly who was buying what and when. But yeah, just to re-iterate, don't confuse the early house nights at the Hac with 'Madchester', thats much later! For what it's worth, I don't think there is a second city of techno, Detroit is a one off, and anything else that compares is strong enough in it's own right to have it's own little name for what it does. e.g. Sheffield, Manchester, Chicago, New York etc And also, Chicago provided the majority of the soundtrack to the Hacienda I believe, as opposed to Detroit. By the time the Detroit records were around, I think they were playing alot of Italian stuff, and also English stuff too. Of course, it was a massive part of it, but I think it's stretching it to say that Detroit was the main contributor to Hacienda music. One of me bessie mates was in there three nights a week at this time and will gladly tell anyone that will listen what records they were playing. Also, hacienda opened '81 I think? My mate has a membership card from '83, as alot of the bands he was well into used to play there alot. The music policy changed pretty radically over the years, but my mate tells me that while they played alot of rock and wave and what have you, the policy was still 'danceable beat' if you know what I mean. When did Greg Wilson do his thing there? Didn't they stop his Friday's to do house instead? Was that '87? or was that earlier?? This was after the midweek things were getting ridiculous I think? I think Wednesday and Thursday were the nights for some time. I think they HAD to move it to the weekend too as it was getting out of hand I believe. My mate tells crazy crazy crazy stories of these nights. Anyone know Greg to ask him? Martin? Robin? and also, don't take this as gospel, I might have a few things wrong, I'll make sure I check my facts. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Cheers Rav. Read this! (For starters!) http://www.mccready.cwc.net/hac.html _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) Man Alive?
We are here on Saturday, if this is Man Alive! I'm not sure. If you fancy a meet up before, hit me back off the list. Martin S23 @Locked - Saturday 25th/Sept/04 Manchester ///// //--- Pacou Angela Flame (Tresor) System 23 (Dust Science) Jay Knight Adam Rayner Locked The Park Nightclub Grosvenor St, off Oxford Rd Manchester 10pm -3am http://www.locked.org.uk/main.htm ///// //--- 1420583 100.00% 692997 100.33% 75558451100.00% Unresolved/Unknown 10 = Screen ///The machines are locked and loaded///Northern Electronic Soul///It's Monday and we can't we for the weekend/// 20 Go To 10 ///Gig to be filmed///Free CD's///There will be dancing and altered states///S23 Out On 22 Sep 2004, at 10:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im not sure about Sheffield but Manchester had the Man Alive Martin, you're playing in the old Man Alive on Saturday.
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Here's a great quote from McCready: The Chicago House Party Tour which stopped at the club in March 1987 with Frankie Knuckles, Marshall and the rest of them getting their first taste of gullible limeys paying through the nose for their instinctive magic, showed that house, now a big part of nights like Nude and Wide, was here to stay. At least for a while. But Acid sounded like coded radio sig- nals, a kind of dance instruction from another planet. At least until some wayward holidaymakers brought us all a present back. I have a poster for this night! (Not that I went of course, was still sucking me thumb) So, yeah, anyway, this helps explain the years a little (obviously the chicago thing was ingrained in the Hac by this time), when was the whole Shoom/M25 thing? 88? 89? I think Blackburn was '89? maybe '88? Rav? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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We are here on Saturday, if this is Man Alive! It's what WAS the Man Alive, if you see what I mean. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) If
Ive read a few of the articles on the page in the past. I've was at some of the Hac nights. I remember the mix of music changing from cross dance genre to acid and increasing levels of gurning. It was an amazing sight from a non gurners perspective. youre right tho if was def more chi's acid that det's techno. Rav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2004 10:43 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) If Cheers Rav. Read this! (For starters!) http://www.mccready.cwc.net/hac.html _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Man Alive?
Just so that I am still up to date.. are we still arguing over what is the capital city of techno... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2004 10:53 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Man Alive? We are here on Saturday, if this is Man Alive! It's what WAS the Man Alive, if you see what I mean. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) If
And also, Chicago provided the majority of the soundtrack to the Hacienda I believe, as opposed to Detroit. The defining moment for me was hearing Rhythm Is Rhythm's `The Dance' in about 1987. That was the start of acid house for me - a moment I'll never forget. I remain eternally grateful to The Hac's sweaty podiums Justin Robertson [ Hac DJ 1990-91, 1994-95 ] from the mcready article. :) robin...
Re: (313) Man Alive?
The second city P, not the capital - looks like Berlin is out in front... Martin On 22 Sep 2004, at 11:04, placid wrote: Just so that I am still up to date.. are we still arguing over what is the capital city of techno...
RE: (313) Man Alive?
Just so that I am still up to date.. are we still arguing over what is the capital city of techno... Oops sorry. I argue it's detroit, and there's no 2nd city. All the 2nd cities mentioned should be recognised in their own right for their own vibe is my argument. My week off posting isn't going so well is it? Kinda got caught up in the Hacienda thing. I'm shutting up now, over and out. : ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Man Alive?
I (begrudgingly) agree with agent bond. Detroit first.. each other city has had a major influence in the past 15 years...london, berlin, Sheffield, cologne, not forgetting brusselsor wherever fuse club was and where rs came from p -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2004 11:09 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Man Alive? Just so that I am still up to date.. are we still arguing over what is the capital city of techno... Oops sorry. I argue it's detroit, and there's no 2nd city. All the 2nd cities mentioned should be recognised in their own right for their own vibe is my argument. My week off posting isn't going so well is it? Kinda got caught up in the Hacienda thing. I'm shutting up now, over and out. : ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Man Alive?
I argue it's detroit, and there's no 2nd city. All the 2nd cities mentioned should be recognised in their own right for their own vibe is my argument. yeah what he said... :) if you don't take the name (house) but the sound (early house is very techno) into account i'd probably side with chicago if i had to though. but that is just a taste thing as i don't really dig the harder more abrasive sounds. robin...
Re: (313) If
And also, Chicago provided the majority of the soundtrack to the Hacienda I believe, as opposed to Detroit. The defining moment for me was hearing Rhythm Is Rhythm's `The Dance' in about 1987. That was the start of acid house for me - a moment I'll never forget. I remain eternally grateful to The Hac's sweaty podiums Justin Robertson [ Hac DJ 1990-91, 1994-95 ] from the mcready article. :) robin... There's always one clever clogs. ; ) But I would like to say that's ONE track. How many other detroit techno joints were around at this time that could have been played? Probably 10? As opposed to the 101 Chi-town 12's around... But I see your point. Maybe that is the point, the few detroit tracks around stood out more to people? Alex *note to self, for gawds sake shuddup* _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Man Alive?
also, I forgot to add for what it's worth, I think the Detroit sound had a far greater influence on people than the Chicago sound. (here anyway) e.g. there was a more what the f**k is that? kinda thing going on, it hit people harder, made more people prick their ears up. (just a personal opinion) Alex *anyone know a good therapist?* _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) If
There's always one clever clogs. ; ) But I would like to say that's ONE track. How many other detroit techno joints were around at this time that could have been played? Probably 10? As opposed to the 101 Chi-town 12's around... oh aye i know. But I see your point. Maybe that is the point, the few detroit tracks around stood out more to people? possibly, i dunno, i was being the topic police. heh heh robin...
RE: (313) If
If i remember correctly, The Dance was quit the anthem back then. even the cheesiest of clubs found themselves confronted with the future of music. To quickly dive back into Dan Hartman territory after it.. good times.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 22 september 2004 12:19 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) If And also, Chicago provided the majority of the soundtrack to the Hacienda I believe, as opposed to Detroit. The defining moment for me was hearing Rhythm Is Rhythm's `The Dance' in about 1987. That was the start of acid house for me - a moment I'll never forget. I remain eternally grateful to The Hac's sweaty podiums Justin Robertson [ Hac DJ 1990-91, 1994-95 ] from the mcready article. :) robin... There's always one clever clogs. ; ) But I would like to say that's ONE track. How many other detroit techno joints were around at this time that could have been played? Probably 10? As opposed to the 101 Chi-town 12's around... But I see your point. Maybe that is the point, the few detroit tracks around stood out more to people? Alex *note to self, for gawds sake shuddup* _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) Man Alive?
also, I forgot to add for what it's worth, I think the Detroit sound had a far greater influence on people than the Chicago sound. (here anyway) e.g. there was a more what the f**k is that? kinda thing going on, it hit people harder, made more people prick their ears up. Hmmm I don't think techno really hit here until the hardcore thing and the early Belgium tracks of late 90.. Up until then, apart from the bas n bleeps it really had all been lumped in together... It was all house to me. P
Re: (313) Man Alive?
On 22 Sep 2004, at 11:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also, I forgot to add for what it's worth, I think the Detroit sound had a far greater influence on people than the Chicago sound. (here anyway) e.g. there was a more what the f**k is that? kinda thing going on, it hit people harder, made more people prick their ears up. absolutely. i'd agree with that. it still kinda does when the night playing it plays a big range of music not just techno. there might be some kind of moral in that :) robin...
RE: (313) Man Alive?
It was all house to me. good point. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) Deep Space Radio 1994
Track ID: Part 2 17/07/94 45/30 - Kevin Saunderson plays a nice chimey tune - anyone know what it is? Thanks in advance. I'm liking this but every now and then he plays some godawful happy house cheese? WHY Does he actually like it or is he playing for the crowd? I remember during the 90s Saunderson played loads of commercial house clubs (in Britain anyhow) but rarely played techno gigs - did he just need the money or does he really have a penchant for cheese? # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) A mix from Placid on Emotionelectric.com
we're proud to give ya another mix from Placid on emotionelectric.com. hope u enjoy! Tracklist for Feel the Rhythm Black Dog - Virtual - Black Dog Rick Wilhite - Godson EP - KDJ Espion - Anything Is Possible - Ed Banger DJ Duke the sound of the underground - Swing Recloose - Cardiology (isolee remix) - Playhouse Black Rascals - So in Love - Polar Zone 1 - Let Your Love - DSR Sunday Adams - (OOhh Ohh) i Wanna Feel It - Larhon Unit 4 - Bodydub - Amontillado MCMLXV - Orange Nagual - Feel the Rhythm - Prescription Idjut Boys - Idjut Boy ep - U star Blaze - Direction - Spiritual Life
(313) Ableton Live Users
Hi, I know this is OT, but if there's anyone out there that is experienced with Ableton Live that plays out with alot, and that can spare me 5 mins, I'd be really really grateful. Just got a few playing out related Q's. I've just joined the ableton forum, but feel a bit bad blundering in with some Q's on my first post. Many Thanks in advance. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) A mix from Placid on Emotionelectric.com
1st track is actually 'Ambience with Teeth' not virtual... p -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2004 12:46 To: 313 Org Subject: (313) A mix from Placid on Emotionelectric.com we're proud to give ya another mix from Placid on emotionelectric.com. hope u enjoy! Tracklist for Feel the Rhythm Black Dog - Virtual - Black Dog Rick Wilhite - Godson EP - KDJ Espion - Anything Is Possible - Ed Banger DJ Duke the sound of the underground - Swing Recloose - Cardiology (isolee remix) - Playhouse Black Rascals - So in Love - Polar Zone 1 - Let Your Love - DSR Sunday Adams - (OOhh Ohh) i Wanna Feel It - Larhon Unit 4 - Bodydub - Amontillado MCMLXV - Orange Nagual - Feel the Rhythm - Prescription Idjut Boys - Idjut Boy ep - U star Blaze - Direction - Spiritual Life
Re: (313) A mix from Placid on Emotionelectric.com
due to an oversight on my part the link to the below was pointing to Placid's last mix. if you want the one below try now as i've fixed it. sorry about that folks. robin... On 22 Sep 2004, at 12:46, robin wrote: we're proud to give ya another mix from Placid on emotionelectric.com. hope u enjoy! Tracklist for Feel the Rhythm Black Dog - Virtual - Black Dog Rick Wilhite - Godson EP - KDJ Espion - Anything Is Possible - Ed Banger DJ Duke the sound of the underground - Swing Recloose - Cardiology (isolee remix) - Playhouse Black Rascals - So in Love - Polar Zone 1 - Let Your Love - DSR Sunday Adams - (OOhh Ohh) i Wanna Feel It - Larhon Unit 4 - Bodydub - Amontillado MCMLXV - Orange Nagual - Feel the Rhythm - Prescription Idjut Boys - Idjut Boy ep - U star Blaze - Direction - Spiritual Life
Re: (313) Ableton Live Users
Massive thanks to all who have emailed to help. I couldn't live without this list! I'm proper petrified about using a computer to do anything, I just don't understand them. Many Thanks Again! Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) Chicago USA Spam
How I get on these email lists is a mystery. However, I thought some of you might be into this: Late Breaking News! For those who have asked when/where DJ T-1000 aka Alan Oldham will be playing locally, he has been named the resident for a brand new techno weekly that's starting up in Chicago, beginning Tuesday, Sept. 21. It will feature T-1000 and special guests. Every Tuesday night at: Dragonfly Mandarin 832 W. Randolph Chicago. 10 pm-2 am 312-787-7600 21+ No cover! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Chicago USA Spam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Every Tuesday night at: Dragonfly Mandarin 832 W. Randolph Chicago. 10 pm-2 am 312-787-7600 21+ No cover! Wow, that's a block from my house... I thought he was moving to Berlin, though. -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
(313) Manchester UK Spam Recloose/Domu
Me mates do: I'll give him a couple o' spelling lessons at some point, not sure what this 'ez' is all about ; ) Ez All, seeing as it's our birthday, we thaught we'd invite back our 2 favourite guests from the last 4 years. So it's a bouble header EYES DOWN 4th BITHDAY Sat 9th October feat special guest: DOMU (2000Black/Sonar Kollectiv/Archive/Co-op etc) Band on the Wall Friday 22nd October feat special guest: RECLOOSE (Planet E/Peacefrog/Detroit) The Roadhouse both dates include residents: KELVIN BROWN JON-K MC DRS (Broke'n'English) We're doing a joint ticket that allows entry to both nights for the bargain price of £10 and includes a free Eyes Down mix CD!! It's only available by credit card for picadilly box office, online at: http://www.ticketline.co.uk/event_details.asp?CPFlag=0EventId=29293 they're mad limited so get in there quick to save a few quid. Loads more details to follow. This is all pretty last minute, so please help us spread the word. anyone needing more info drop us an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace.. Kelvin _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Manchester UK Spam Recloose/Domu
- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday 22nd October feat special guest: RECLOOSE (Planet E/Peacefrog/Detroit) why is recloose affiliated with peacefrog? k7 licensed his planet e album, ive never heard of him doing anything for peacefrog at all. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Kraftwerk 12345678
Anyone have a release date for this and was the box set going to be available on wax? Mike I've been told this isn't coming on vinyl. But I'm not sure if that means as a boxset etc, as I thought they were doing the vinyls. But, I did get it from the horses mouth so to speak. Maybe this is just an EMI uk thing? Or maybe the guy just didn't know. Alot of use?! Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Manchester UK Spam Recloose/Domu
why is recloose affiliated with peacefrog? k7 licensed his planet e album, ive never heard of him doing anything for peacefrog at all. I think his new LP will come on peacefrog. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Octave One: The Theory of Everything
First of all, A warm thank you to lady Adia for posting this! Posts like these are what keeps us on the inside track. List, your keeping very quiet on this. Follow the link and check out the audio samples... So, What do you all think? I'm kind of on the fence. Strenghts = It does sound very musical in a larger than life kind of way. I like how 0-1 really stab at those synth lines. Some of the effects are really interesting. Weakness = Very clubby sounding, complete with excessive vocals and a knack for repeating chorus lines. KSR somedays is on the album and I'm not into Lorne's material. Did I also see Blackwater on that LP? jeesh. Enough already. My two cents: Over all, Im looking forward to the release, I certainly won't pass it without a listen. But from the few songs I have heard, as well as the recent eps, this release hasn't convinced me that its of quality equal to many of 0-1s previous releases, or the RNG releases (the live mix on the Mills DVD was incredible). Perhaps because the increased involvement of Lorne. Lorne was 9 years old when he watched his older brothers create Day by Day, it's obvious that the real talent flows within the older brothers. I'm not hating, but I just wouldn't put him alongside his brothers in terms of having the gift. At least not from what I've already heard by him, but maybe he'll surprise me on this new releases? I still really hope Lawrence and Lenny go a few tracks alone on this one. I could use some new (old) Octave One ;) Group hug for Aida for being on point! -jason On Tuesday, September 14, 2004, at 12:12 PM, Rebelbass/bookings wrote: The new Octave One album is marvelous! But will not be released untill januari 2005... Next saturday The Burden Brothers will perform live @ Fluid /Effenaar/Eindhoven/ Netherlands. The full album tracklist + audio from 'Bout to Blow' and 'All2U' is now available on my weblog. with permission from the dear brothers. scroll down for the audio icon...(realplayer) enjoy. I do! aida rebelbass http://www.vpro.nl/weblog/news.jsp?news=19114127
Re: (313) Manchester UK Spam Recloose/Domu
-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] why is recloose affiliated with peacefrog? k7 licensed his planet e album, ive never heard of him doing anything for peacefrog at all. I think his new LP will come on peacefrog. oh yeah? where did you hear about this? whens it supposed to drop? i havent heard anything about it at all. did he have some falling out with carl/planet e? tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Regis
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2004 00:45 To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Regis oddly... while hood and mills have both moved on from loop bangers in their production it still seems to be the primary focus of their dj sets at least what i've heard the past few years. and while Mr. May may say (whew!) I have to redefine the concept of techno every time I play because people come in expecting... hard edged abrasive intrusive, into-the-cortex type music while I'm coming from a really melodic, rhythmic high tech soul angle... I'd describe the stuff he's played the last couple of times I've seen him as more on the hard edged than high tech soul tip, which is a shame as I'd love to see him doing the soul. Maybe I just don't geddit.
Re: (313) Manchester UK Spam Recloose/Domu
where did you hear about this? 'the man on the street' told me. don't take it as gospel, it's just what I heard. haven't heard it from horses mouth. as for that other bit, well, I thought we had that discussion last week. Alex this no posting thing isn't working is it? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Manchester UK Spam Recloose/Domu
- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] where did you hear about this? 'the man on the street' told me. don't take it as gospel, it's just what I heard. haven't heard it from horses mouth. ahh. as for that other bit, well, I thought we had that discussion last week. did we? on here? tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Manchester UK Spam Recloose/Domu
as for that other bit, well, I thought we had that discussion last week. did we? on here? yeah, but it concerned other individuals. it's none of any of ours business, so I dunno, just don't find it interesting that's all. no offence like Tom. Not directed at you in a bad way or owt. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) Sin bin
Dear Mr Moderator. Can you stick me in the sin bin for a week? I am incapable of not posting, but would like to read the list still. Many Thanks Your Cosmic Friend Barry Baldelli. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Sin bin
You are beyond therapy my frind p -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2004 17:02 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Sin bin Dear Mr Moderator. Can you stick me in the sin bin for a week? I am incapable of not posting, but would like to read the list still. Many Thanks Your Cosmic Friend Barry Baldelli. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) If
If Detroit is the First City of Techno, which IYHO is the Second... Atlantis ;) MEK
RE: (313) If
Surprised nobody has mentioned Tokyo (but it probably comes in around #4 or #5) MEK Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@Hyperreal.Org 313@hyperreal.org ine.co.uk cc: Subject: RE: (313) If 09/22/04 03:57 AM For the sake of being mildly controversial, it could be argued that Dusseldorf is city #1 (Kraftwerk) while Detroit is city #2 (Atkins, May, Saunderson co)... In the context of techno music, though, rather than electronic music in a broader sense, I'd definitely plump for Berlin over any city in the UK. However I'd also consider LA, which had a techno scene at around the same time as Detroit's techno scene was emerging (Techno Kut records, etc; a more overtly Cybotron-influenced style with no house characteristics, but it called itself techno). Brendan -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2004 09:51 To: Mann, Ravinder Cc: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: Re: (313) If On 22 Sep 2004, at 08:41, Mann, Ravinder wrote: I can't put it down to a city but I would say the North of England. I recall that the take up for House/Techno was stonger in Leeds/Manchester/Sheffield. London was still doing its rare groove thang (and moved more towards acid jazz) when the North started to move from Rare Groove to House/Techno. I'd agree with this, it isn't London or Sheffield - I'm thinking more along Manchester/Birmingham/Berlin. London was way behind Manchester, Sheffield was before and Leeds I know nothing about the early scene - I don't ever remember traveling to a club there - it was always Stoke/Wigan/Manc/Sheff/Mansfield for me... I wasn't asking to start an argument, I really am interested in peoples views. (The club sets were a lot more open too, you would hear all styles of music in one night - gets nostalgic) A lot of people forget this, I remember Inner City being slammed in PWEI at the Hac - people still went nuts. Martin Rav
RE: (313) If
After much consideration, I've decided on Wakefield. LFO/Wild Planet and The Orbit just down the road. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 4:30 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) If If Detroit is the First City of Techno, which IYHO is the Second... Atlantis ;) MEK # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) Arghh!
Are my posts not posting again??!! Or is my e-mail not working again??!! Please hit me back direct if you saw my post today re. Derrick and looped bangers. Ta.
RE: (313) Man Alive?
Cue Abe Duque Blake Baxter... [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 09/22/04 05:54 AMSubject: RE: (313) Man Alive? It was all house to me. good point. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) If
Just one problem with that theory Rob, LFO are from Rotherham and got there first break in Leeds cough On 22 Sep 2004, at 18:33, Robert Taylor wrote: After much consideration, I've decided on Wakefield. LFO/Wild Planet and The Orbit just down the road. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 4:30 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) If If Detroit is the First City of Techno, which IYHO is the Second... Atlantis ;) MEK ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ##
RE: (313) Arghh!
I saw it and I geddit too - been a long while since I've heard May play a set that didn't involve tribal nonsense -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 4:36 PM To: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: (313) Arghh! Are my posts not posting again??!! Or is my e-mail not working again??!! Please hit me back direct if you saw my post today re. Derrick and looped bangers. Ta. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) If
Dang - I was sure they were from Wakefield - -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 4:37 PM To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313@Hyperreal.Org Org Subject: Re: (313) If Just one problem with that theory Rob, LFO are from Rotherham and got there first break in Leeds cough On 22 Sep 2004, at 18:33, Robert Taylor wrote: After much consideration, I've decided on Wakefield. LFO/Wild Planet and The Orbit just down the road. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 4:30 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) If If Detroit is the First City of Techno, which IYHO is the Second... Atlantis ;) MEK ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ## # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) If
He lives on the same Street as the Chuckle Brothers fact fans, people outside the UK - google it... Martin On 22 Sep 2004, at 18:38, Robert Taylor wrote: Dang - I was sure they were from Wakefield - -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 4:37 PM To: Robert Taylor Cc: 313@Hyperreal.Org Org Subject: Re: (313) If Just one problem with that theory Rob, LFO are from Rotherham and got there first break in Leeds cough On 22 Sep 2004, at 18:33, Robert Taylor wrote: After much consideration, I've decided on Wakefield. LFO/Wild Planet and The Orbit just down the road. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 4:30 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) If If Detroit is the First City of Techno, which IYHO is the Second... Atlantis ;) MEK ## # ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ## # ## ### ## Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### ##
Re: (313) If
On Sep 21, 2004, at 7:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: adam's come back around. or maybe it's that industrial and electro have come around didn't he do a crazy all-EBM set at Oslo afterparty during last years festival... same night as BMG Sal Principato there... that's adam right? shaved head, mean looking ;) -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
RE: (313) If
There's a C4 programme featuring him getting very aggro with someone - I certainly wouldn't mess with the fella -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 5:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) If On Sep 21, 2004, at 7:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: adam's come back around. or maybe it's that industrial and electro have come around didn't he do a crazy all-EBM set at Oslo afterparty during last years festival... same night as BMG Sal Principato there... that's adam right? shaved head, mean looking ;) -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) re: Manchester UK Spam Recloose/Domu
let's just say.. the issues with Planet E was felt by... Recloose Common Factor Dego and myself.. amongst a few others. seen any other records from Planet E in the last 2 years other than work by Carl himself? you can fill in the rest. +odd -- + SCALE : http://www.scalestudio.com/ /// connecting the space between and within.
Re: (313) Man Alive?
i'm sorry, but where is here? On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also, I forgot to add for what it's worth, I think the Detroit sound had a far greater influence on people than the Chicago sound. (here anyway) e.g. there was a more what the f**k is that? kinda thing going on, it hit people harder, made more people prick their ears up. (just a personal opinion) Alex *anyone know a good therapist?* _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Man Alive?
On 22 Sep 2004, at 18:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm sorry, but where is here? manchester, uk i think alex got carried away with all the Hac talk :) robin... On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also, I forgot to add for what it's worth, I think the Detroit sound had a far greater influence on people than the Chicago sound. (here anyway) e.g. there was a more what the f**k is that? kinda thing going on, it hit people harder, made more people prick their ears up. (just a personal opinion) Alex *anyone know a good therapist?*
RE: (313) Man Alive?
Not over there -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 5:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Man Alive? i'm sorry, but where is here? On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also, I forgot to add for what it's worth, I think the Detroit sound had a far greater influence on people than the Chicago sound. (here anyway) e.g. there was a more what the f**k is that? kinda thing going on, it hit people harder, made more people prick their ears up. (just a personal opinion) Alex *anyone know a good therapist?* _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) If
that's him. he also played some riduculous sh*t at the nefarious booth. i have video somewhere online. will find it soon. On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Matt MacQueen wrote: On Sep 21, 2004, at 7:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: adam's come back around. or maybe it's that industrial and electro have come around didn't he do a crazy all-EBM set at Oslo afterparty during last years festival... same night as BMG Sal Principato there... that's adam right? shaved head, mean looking ;) -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
RE: (313) If
he's a shouter, that's for sure. On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Robert Taylor wrote: There's a C4 programme featuring him getting very aggro with someone - I certainly wouldn't mess with the fella -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 5:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) If On Sep 21, 2004, at 7:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: adam's come back around. or maybe it's that industrial and electro have come around didn't he do a crazy all-EBM set at Oslo afterparty during last years festival... same night as BMG Sal Principato there... that's adam right? shaved head, mean looking ;) -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) If
Probably a common story, but from the everyday-punter perspective, Sheffield was certainly the most instrumental in introducing me to (detroit) techno. While i was certainly familiar with both house and more 'ardcore stuff (courtesy of communique and DBN-- i was living in mpls at the time), it was really WARP's first artificial intelligence releases (Black Dog, Polygon Window, B12) that introduced me to the sound and got me and my friends digging for more, ultimately discovering folks like jeff mills and kenny larkin not much later... However, for a 2nd City of Techno, I think I have to nominate Berlin. Between Tresor, Hardwax and others, the work and support by Berliners of detroit artists (and others) has been instrumental in allowing these artists to pursue the sound. As far as London goes, I'm no expert, but I think The New Dance Sound... is maybe a bit overrated in it's influence on anyone but Brits (or maybe even just Londoners?). It's a good story, but I've never talked to anyone who got into detroit sounds because of it. (Though it probably did provide a bit of a cash infusion into some detroit studios.) --- Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22 Sep 2004, at 08:41, Mann, Ravinder wrote: I can't put it down to a city but I would say the North of England. I recall that the take up for House/Techno was stonger in Leeds/Manchester/Sheffield. London was still doing its rare groove thang (and moved more towards acid jazz) when the North started to move from Rare Groove to House/Techno. I'd agree with this, it isn't London or Sheffield - I'm thinking more along Manchester/Birmingham/Berlin. London was way behind Manchester, Sheffield was before and Leeds I know nothing about the early scene - I don't ever remember traveling to a club there - it was always Stoke/Wigan/Manc/Sheff/Mansfield for me... I wasn't asking to start an argument, I really am interested in peoples views. (The club sets were a lot more open too, you would hear all styles of music in one night - gets nostalgic) A lot of people forget this, I remember Inner City being slammed in PWEI at the Hac - people still went nuts. Martin Rav
Re: (313) Man Alive?
On Sep 22, 2004, at 5:10 AM, Martin Dust wrote: The second city P, not the capital - looks like Berlin is out in front... i've appreciated all sides of the debate, but i concur. After Detroit, it's Berlin. If we are talking kindred TECHNO spirits, who helped get detroit european exposure, collaborations, the whole Hardwax/Basic Channel connection, remember that tresor compilation: Berlin-Detroit: A Techno Alliance ;) yeah you could argue Neil Rushton was doing similar with licensing stuff for Network UK / Kool Kat though... Biorhythms... etc. etc. and that might have been before UR got in so thick with Mark and Moritz at Basic Channel/Hardwax. Also i found the Chicago arguments interesting, the cross-pollination was definitely there. For 2nd wave detroit/chicago crossover, DBX personified it, btw. Sold big numbers here. So did the early Metroplex records too. It's also funny, classically, DJs here play Salsa Life here more than they play Strings of Life. Same record sales numbers, but different cut for the different city. That was one of the first things i notices when i started going out after moving here 10 years ago. Salsa Life! It's grown on me immensely though, prior to moving here i never gave it a second thought. But it tears up a house room big time. Used to hear this at Red Dog, upstairs smaller room, hot summer night sweatbox... wooo. -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
Re: (313) If
On Sep 22, 2004, at 5:41 AM, Peteri, Jochem wrote: even the cheesiest of clubs found themselves confronted with the future of music. To quickly dive back into Dan Hartman territory after it.. LOL.. dang -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
Re: (313) Octave One: The Theory of Everything
On 22-sep-04, at 17:10, jason kenjar wrote: Weakness = Very clubby sounding, complete with excessive vocals and a knack for repeating chorus lines. KSR somedays is on the album and I'm not into Lorne's material. Did I also see Blackwater on that LP? jeesh. Enough already. I really like these vocal tracks, and even the first O1 track had vocals on it. This version of Someday is totally different, it is an extremely typical Octave One track with vocal from Ann Saunderson on top. I personally like the fact that they did put it on there, that is what is going to sell it to the audiences outside the underground scene and above all, i think that without Blackwater this album would never have been made. Over all, Im looking forward to the release, I certainly won't pass it without a listen. But from the few songs I have heard, as well as the recent eps, this release hasn't convinced me that its of quality equal to many of 0-1s previous releases, or the RNG releases (the live mix on the Mills DVD was incredible). Perhaps because the increased involvement of Lorne. Lorne was 9 years old when he watched his older brothers create Day by Day, it's obvious that the real talent flows within the older brothers. I'm not hating, but I just wouldn't put him alongside his brothers in terms of having the gift. At least not from what I've already heard by him, but maybe he'll surprise me on this new releases? I still really hope Lawrence and Lenny go a few tracks alone on this one. I could use some new (old) Octave One ;) I have not listened to all of Lorne his material but I really do like the first 3 KSR releases! KJ
(313) Detroit - Chicago - was Re: (313) Man Alive?
-Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2004 21:38 To: Martin Dust Cc: placid; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Man Alive? Also i found the Chicago arguments interesting, the cross-pollination was definitely there. For 2nd wave detroit/chicago crossover, DBX personified it, btw. Sold big numbers here. So did the early Metroplex records too. It's also funny, classically, DJs here play Salsa Life here more than they play Strings of Life. Same record sales numbers, but different cut for the different city. That was one of the first things i notices when i started going out after moving here 10 years ago. Salsa Life! It's grown on me immensely though, prior to moving here i never gave it a second thought. But it tears up a house room big time. Used to hear this at Red Dog, upstairs smaller room, hot summer night sweatbox... wooo. This is the angle I'm interested in too, which no one ever seems to talk about. Around '94-'95 I was just getting my first exposure to Detroit and Chicago other than Mills and Hawtin, which I caught on to slightly earlier. It was the DBX-influenced people that first caught my ear, like Hyperactive and Justin Long from Chicago, Landstrumm, Vogel and Todd Sines (who even released on Contact, which I'm pretty sure was from Chicago - Todd feel free to chime in here), along with DBX. All the Iowa club kids would make the 3-4 hour trek to Chicago more than anyone older, because it was easier to do underage stuff there, and obviously more good talent. These kids, most of them 14-19 at the time, were buying loads of the stuff above alongside Relief, Peacefrog (another obvious DBX - Chicago connection by way of St. Albans), etc. Come to think of it, you can plot a circle just from Sleazy D - DBX - Hyperactive. In my mind minimalism was the major cross-over at the time, although few people I met in Chicago, or who spent a lot of time there would acknowledge the cross-influence. At the time it seemed to me everyone thought each was dogging the other. Which really makes no sense with all this in mind, and given the way Derrick May was caning Preacher Man for half a decade, and the way Spastik and Losing Control were played to death in Chicago. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Chicago USA Spam
tuesday nights? WEAK :( - Original Message - From: atomly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 10:41 AM Subject: Re: (313) Chicago USA Spam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Every Tuesday night at: Dragonfly Mandarin 832 W. Randolph Chicago. 10 pm-2 am 312-787-7600 21+ No cover! Wow, that's a block from my house... I thought he was moving to Berlin, though. -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
Re: (313) Chicago USA Spam
No kidding. Maybe I'll bring my seminar readings to the club with a little flashlight. I've studied in worse. =] Luis np. liquid metal meltdown (DJ T-100) On Wednesday, September 22, 2004, at 05:25 PM, /0 wrote: tuesday nights? WEAK :( - Original Message - From: atomly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 10:41 AM Subject: Re: (313) Chicago USA Spam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Every Tuesday night at: Dragonfly Mandarin 832 W. Randolph Chicago. 10 pm-2 am 312-787-7600 21+ No cover! Wow, that's a block from my house... I thought he was moving to Berlin, though. -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ... Politics is parlour tricks. -W. Jean
