[313] claude young + dj rok berlin-detroit
does anybody actually have this cd? know where to get it? i have tried www.dj-sets.com and it's the most frustrating site i've ever seen. it says it has a shop area, but only 2 cds are listed. it has a news item about the latest entries in the same series as the young/rok cd (essential underground) and the newer ones are listed as in stock. in stock WHERE? brian Brian Dillard Who's George Clinton? Isn't he a country singer or something? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Barbara Morganstern
as is her sumptuous Fjorden LP ... Kate Bush meets Can meets Derrick May. Brian -Original Message- From: Gwendal Cobert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 12:38 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry christian morgenstern - all night dancing Just curious : does he have any relation with Barbara Morgenstern ? She deserves a mention on this list BTW, her whole album Vermona ET 6-1 is a little gem... Gwednal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] submerge.panel
I'm one of the first people who jumped onto this thread. When I did, I changed my subject line to OT: Globalization [was: sumberge.panel]. In most of my posts on the subject, I have brought the thread back to Detroit and to Detroit music. I fail to see how this relatively novel thread - which I believe is very relevant to 313 music - is so horrific that it sends people off the list, but a few gibbering Hawtin fanboys tossing back and forth the same arguments we hear every three months is on-topic and oh so relevant. I have to delete entire threads on this list all of the time. I suggest people who find a thread offensive should do the same, and refrain from complaining about it. Complaints about list content are the most OT thread of all. Brian -Original Message- From: :P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:20 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] submerge.panel sorry David, BUT, from the very source you quote: Do not repost private email to 313. Likewise do not reply in private email and 'CC' 313. This is both illegal (falling under the reproduction of an original copyrighted work without permission) and highly unethical. Im not nitpicking, but if you reference a text to prove your point, I'll tend to hold you to that text pretty firmly, at least initially. so yes, 313 is unmoderated, but IMO it should be since it wanders off topic enough for people to jump ship (Mike Taylor?) of course, we could argue semantics all day long. back to detroit techno back to my cage, -Joe - Original Message - From: David Bate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: :P [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [313] submerge.panel From what I understand, this is a self moderated list. From the list guidelines: http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/ Regarding Content and Community 313 content is not moderated and never will be, therefore we rely on 313 list members to 'self-police' 313 using the mechanisms described above. After five plus years 313 has become a community and should be thought of as such. Like any community (Detroit included) 313 is only as strong as every member makes it. In that spirit we ask you respect the following principles: Spam is strictly prohibited, 313 list subscribers are not marketing fodder. List subscribers are people, treat them as such, disrespective and disruptive behavior will not be tolerated. List members are here for a reason, keep your posts on topic, using 313 as chat room is not permitted. Please note placing 'OT', standing for off-topic, or 'NRR', standing for not really relevant, in the subject line in no way excuses you from adhering to this rule. Do not attempt to steal another list subscribers email identity (and, yes, this has happened in past). Do not repost private email to 313. Likewise do not reply to private email and 'CC' 313. This is both illegal (falling under the reproduction of an original copyrighted work without permission) and highly unethical. Arguments belong in private email, not in email that is addressed to 313, check your 'To: ' and 'CC: ' email header fields carefully before sending out email - it may save you more embarassment than you thought possible. Try not to swear. More and more corporate sites are using profanity firewalls resulting in fellow 313 subscribers behind those firewalls mis :P wrote: this list desperately needs moderation - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:31 AM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [313] submerge.panel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 June 2002 15:18 LKS how would you measure this? BBP Average life expectancy, infant mortality rates, literacy, et cetera. uhm...so do you believe the most country that is the most technologically advanced, the US, is sitting on top of these statistics because it's not Ah, but is the US the most technologically advanced country in the world anyway? It probably isn't you know. It's a very diverse place and as you say, inner city areas as well as remote rural backwaters aren't very technologically advanced places. Countries like Finland, Norway or Japan are arguably more technologically advanced all in all. But there aren't many metrics for measuring the technological advancement of a particular nation, in the same way as we use literacy, mortality rates, etc, to measure overall standard of living. But ultimately I don't think it impacts on techno music all in all. What stance should UR or Submerge take on this issue?
RE: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry....
i hate to say it, but cheeze/piano/kiddie choir hardcore/d-n-b classic the sound of music by nookie ... just close your eyes and dream with me / you'll hear the sound of music / m-ziik / muuu-zik! -Original Message- From: Brian 'balistic' Prince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:33 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Techno songs so good they make you cry J I thought this may be a good post. I was just listening to this old ass Dan J Curtin track out of sight and mind. well, that last 2 minutes or so of it J is one of the most beautiful segments of techno I have ever heard...brings J tears to my eyes sometimes...pure bliss. J There are others that do it to me but I can not think of them right now. J What songs do this to you? Claude Young Gates of the Afterlife Mad Mike Voyage of the Dragons, Inspiration Schizophrenia Schizophrenia -- who is this, by the way? Basic Channel Radiance III edit 3MB Die Kosmichen Kuriere (I probably mangled the spelling) - Brian balistic Prince http://www.bprince.com - art and techno Strokes of Defiance EP . . . soon. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] OT: globalization [was: sumberge.panel]
increases in technology have led to globalization which has led to dramatic increases in inequity in these countries h. maybe because instead of the entire country being poor, globalization has allowed a technological elite to emerge into standards of living on par with the middle classes of a first world country? is nationwide poverty somehow better than ecomomic inequality? try telling that to telecommuting IT workers in india. it's true globalization has had negative effects on the poorest households in developed nations, but it's also had a positive effect on the rising middle classes of developing nations. globalization isn't a bad thing, and it isn't something that can be stopped, no matter what activists in Seattle may wish. It simply IS - the dominant economic system governing the entire post-Cold War world. the very music we cherish is sustained by botique/niche capitalism. the technology which allows it to exist is the province of global conglomerates. it was inspired, in part, by the assembly line itself. just because the music is underground doesn't mean it's Marxist. the very idea that you could love techno music and not implicitly embrace or at least reconcile yourself with capitalism is, itself, a product of capitalist consumer lifestyle choice. it's like feminists complaining about the capitalist patriarchy, when industrial capitalism is what allowed this unprecedented era of gender equity to exist in the first place. take UR as an example. they exist to fight the programmers through sonic revolution. but they're actually a business proposition. their music and iconography may explicitly and implicitly critique the homogenizing extremes of global capitalism, but it couldn't exist without that capitalism. to me, theirs is the real path toward keeping culture vibrant and alive in the face of the dominant system of globalization: acceptance of the system and the development of alternative marketplaces. not whinging about globalization as if it were something that could be stopped if only we got enough people to sign petitions. brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:15 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] submerge.panel yeah this is a little late but. i was at the submerge panel saturday morning of demfit had a very pro technology flavor to it...imo that is rather problematic since technology has played a _large_ part in the rising levels of inequality both in the united states (the income of the poorest 20 percent of households has fallen in real terms by about 15 percent in the last 25 years) as well as in developing countries (increases in technology have led to globalization which has led to dramatic increases in inequity in these countries)..i understand that the panelists were not there to speak on such things but all of us have a responsiblity to understand our place in the world back to the music kathleen mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] OT: globalization [was: sumberge.panel]
if roland hadn't been interested in selling TB-303 bass emulators to people - and competing with companies that made bass guitars - acid house wouldn't exist. fact. most of the gear that is used to make electronic music exists because of fierce competition and innovation among a handful of equipment manufactures. sure, _music_ in general would exist with or without modern capitalist technology. but _techno_ music most certainly would not. at no point was i attempting to celebrate global domination by capitalist technocrats. i was attempting to argue that globalization is neither good nor bad, it simply is. most developing nations who have hopped onto the moving train of globalization have done so because their people want to attain Western standards of living (measured objectively in terms of literacy, wages, life expectancy, etc.) - not because some evil cabal of the u.s. government and several corporate CEOs somehow forced them to. those who will succeed under globalization are those who learn to exploit its intrinsic properties rather than wish it would simply go away. i think the entire trend toward niche markets is the way forward for people who care about culture. in a global marketplace, mass culture will be dominated by a few immensely powerful corporate behemoths the same way every other industry will be. but globalization also offers thinkers, writers, artists, musicians, etc. a potential worldwide audience. you aren't limited to the people in your neighborhood, city, state or nation. the reach is potentially limitless. UR are a great example of this, as are a lot of techno labels, who survive by building what amounts to a small local business with a global audience of listeners. UR isn't equal Sony, but it benefits from the same system that allows Sony to dominate the media world. globalization benefits the very big and the very small - just not many folks who are in-between. brian -Original Message- From: Data General [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:35 PM To: James Hurlbut Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] OT: globalization [was: sumberge.panel] agreed. agreed. agreed. for more good, even-handed context on globalization and the incredible complexity of the phenomenon, see Naomi Klein's No Logo. as regards capitalism being the driving force behind techno (or increased gender equality): such an assumption is a denial of human agency. it suggests that people are not creative and simply react reflexively to their surroundings. to me, detroit techno is a living example of the absurdity of that phenomenon. people are creative and unpredictable. they react in interesting and unexpected ways. the genius of ur came from people like mike banks, not from some abandoned buildings downtown. sure, those buildings are part of the story, but the creativity that emerges from human cultures is the most important reason techno or any other form of expression exists. this is what i wrote my thesis on, and i believe it very much. ben On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, James Hurlbut wrote: (313 reference in third paragraph of reply) ... it isn't something that can be 'stopped,' no matter what activists in Seattle may wish. It simply IS - the dominant economic system governing the entire post-Cold War world. This is a common and dangerous misconception about the anti-globalization movement. If you look at the most active organizations/people in the movement you will find that they argue for a different form of globalization that puts control into the hands of the majority of the people of a country, the workers if your a marxist. It seems that you are arguing that we should be happy that our corporations are making deals with small technologically elite ruling classes in other countries, that doesn't jive with me. I'm not comfortable with my government funding and training small military controlling classes that rule the majority through terror ( for obvious examples look at Pinochet in Chile, Sutharta in Indonesia, Hussein in Iraq, the Shah of Iran ... most latin american countries at some point in the last century). I'm not comfortable with they way that the US government does most things. it's like feminists complaining about the 'capitalist patriarchy,' when industrial capitalism is what allowed this unprecedented era of gender equity to exist in the first place. Industrial capitalism didn't allow for gender equity to exist, Industrial workers did. Like the thousands of girls young women who striked for weeks in the cold of winter at the textile mills in Lowell MA because the working conditions were horrendous (there was a horrible fire that killed a whole bunch of workers because the owners would lock the workers in on each floor, is one of many examples). This is similar to the argument that we shouldn't be out hollering on the streets about how bad our government is because we live in an open society. We live in an open
RE: [313] +8 pre-release vinyl
it's not a mis-press, just a jokey promotional tool. it's still relatively rare and might fetch money on ebay. then again, i have seen copies in several record stores, including a copy at smallfish london. brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 7:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] +8 pre-release vinyl I'd auction the thing on ebay - he'll probably get quite a sum for it! There's a whole subculture of people who'll pay through the nose for mispressed old Plus 8 records (I used to know someone who would happily fork out 60 quid for a copy of Minimal Nation where side C was pressed on both sides of the second record, or a Kenny Larkin EP with the wrong sticker, etc etc), so assuming he paid a normal amount for it (6-8 quid) he might make quite a profit... Brendan -Original Message- From: Ian Wager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2002 15:22 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] +8 pre-release vinyl my mate rich e-mailed me regarding a record he just bought, ...i was very pleased to pick up an old cybersonik thing on +8 thrash, but there were no listening decks so i did not check it (silly) upon getting it home i discovered that it was fully blank on each side?? on the other side from the title it is printed the silence will be broken on january 21st whats this all about? do you know anything about this? it had a proper cat no. plus 8 no 16... is it common to send out such records pre-release, is it worth holding on to this record, or is it a bunch of arse? cheers, wager. ps. hope to see some of you monkeys tomorrow at the 3 chairs in sheff, i'll be the one drooling and fidgeting. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Legal Disclaimer This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message that arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes only. our website at: http://www.widelearning.com Wide Learning is a trading name of Wide Multimedia Ltd Registered office: 33-41 Dallington Street, London EC1V 0BB Company number: 3339664 VAT number: 690 8399 83 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: [313] MTV's Detroit Techno Closet ® .
speaking of japansese telecom - and speaking of the pet shop boys the other day - neil tennant lists virtual geisha in his current top 5 in the new pet shop boys fan club magazine. brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: 5/3/02 11:44 AM Subject: [313] MTV's Detroit Techno Closet ®. Sean wrote: I too am starting to think someone at MTV *is* in the Detroit Techno Closet®. More fuel to the fire: I've heard Japanese Telecom on MTV's Tough Enough... yrs, mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] ... r e m i x e s...
not sure what you meant by impact, but richie hawtin turned a mediocre depeche mode b-side (painkiller) in a lost plastikman classic, with tweaked and treated guitars in place of the normal twisted acid lines. brian -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 11:41 PM To: Rc; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] ... r e m i x e s... - Original Message - From: Rc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [313] ... r e m i x e s... hey folks. i've been thinkin' about remixes tonight. can anyone name trax that had a greater impact remixed by D artists than untouched? regards, lrh I'm sure carl craig has. How about his remix of Tori Amos' God? Not sure what Lee originally meant by impact though. To whom, a commercial audience? Tristan --- http://www.mp313.com - Music http://www.metrotechno.net - DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com - DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: [313] somewhat OT: Moby, Eminem, Dr. Dre, Pet Shop Boys, JJ F ad, Hip House and other current threads
hear, hear. that moby remix of miserablism is fantastic. such a great song. anyone know if that's an actual 303 on it? i'm a huge, and unashamed pet shop boys fan. and i love their very acoustic new album, ESPECIALLY the eminem track (which is actually the next to last.) 313 content: anyone ever heard the various 313 remixes of the PSB? terrence parker and mk have both done fantastic PSB mixes (i wouldn't normally do that kind of thing and can you forgive her). kevin saunderson did a couple less spectacular mixes of go west, including one with the word trance in the title (!!). eddie fowlkes did a very strange remix of i want a dog, if i'm not mistaken. and the psb themselves did a pretty good, though limited-edition, somewhat detroity techno album called relentless. almost all of this technoid psb stuff was around 93/4 - since then they've unfortunately graduated to plodding house and prog-trance mixes (though they did cover maze's house classic break 4 love last year). additional 313 content: anyone ever noticed that one of the dre-produced tracks on jj fad's self-titled debut album samples basically its entire backing track from model 500's nite drive thru babylon? i recently got their second album (i'm a sucker for cheesy female pop-rap groups - le trimm rules!) and it's a seriously hilarious hip-house album from hell. no wonder it killed their careers. brian -Original Message- From: kelli b kavanaugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:49 AM To: Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: Re: [313] Fw: Moby Responds To Eminem... I heard there is a sensational (officially, as opposed to speculatively) gay rapper in Detroit actually! Anyone know his name? esQuire see http://www.metrotimes.com/mtframes.asp?Page=/editorial/story.asp?id=3014 http://www.queenbeehoney.homestead.com/esQuire.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] tehnika - temponauta + random logic
anyone have any thoughts on the latest two cds from the folks who brought us tehnika, last year's excellent survey of slovenian techno? i'm really digging 'em. the temponauta album is driving and nicely detailed minimal/detroity stuff - more bread and butter techno. the random numbers one (logic) is more in a basic channel mode, with glitchy beats laid atop deed pub atmospherics. brian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] OT - haiku
my fave online haikus are about whitney houston and bobby brown. sample: Bobby a'twitchin' Whitney puts down her pipe, says Damn! Call 911! more here: http://www.beardburn.com/issuefive/haikurama.html 313 topic: listening to placid angles the cry - god, john beltran is a genius! --brian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] tricia romano covers bell/wink in village voice
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RE: [313] why not buy your imports from amazon.co.uk? (was: 4Hero )
import prices have more to do with customs duty than with the record company making more money. when a multinational decides not to do a domestic release, they're basically just giving a gift to the government and screwing the fans. however, in case folks haven't figured it out yet, buying a single copy from an overseas retailer does not incur customs duty. if you buy from amazon.co.uk, you get it for the UK price MINUS the VAT (value added tax) plus shipping - which usually ends up being less than the cost of an import copy bought from US retailers. i do this all the time, especially with overseas singles. they end up costing between 6 and 9 bucks each instead of 10 to 12 bucks each. with albums, you'll usually save at least 5 bones - still more expensive than a domestic cd, but at least it's back down in the 15-20 range instead of the 20-30 and if you buy a few things at once, the shipping overhead gets even cheaper. brian -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 7:55 AM To: Rob Theakston; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: RE: [313] 4Hero Yeah those prices are pretty crazy. I didn't realize. Polygram is the biggest record company in the world (on many measures) so I'd guess that that's definitely deliberate, rather than poor strategy - somehow, they must figure that they'll earn more by selling at the import price ... -Original Message- From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 3:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: RE: [313] 4Hero i guess the main problem is getting that record over here at a decent price. unless you are die hard west london obsessive, it's a bit tough to justify the $30-40 price tag i've seen for the vinyl; or the $23 CD price tag. too bad mercury/polygram didn't have the good sense to do a US version at a reasonable price, i have a feeling it would have fared quite well sales wise. anyone else check out the hold it down remixes? oooh...sooo good! -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:25 AM To: Dan Sicko; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: RE: [313] 4Hero 'Day of The Greys' for me (The Terrier Callier track). Mournful, accomplished and deep of message. I'm a little surprised to be discussing the LP now though ... I thought everyone vaguely into D and the universe it exists in, would've checked it out already. -Original Message- From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 2:45 PM To: Rob Theakston; Phonopsia; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] 4Hero mine is Golden Solitude with Bembe Segue on vocals. Amazing stuff. at first I didn't dig the new 4Hero because of all the vocal tracks. Now it's hard for me to dig their stuff *without* vocals. They really do an amazing job on this one. -d however, the thing that does it for me is the last track. it's a gorgeous track with guest vocals by Terry Callier. it's a bit pricey, because i don't think it ever saw a domestic release. but if that sound is your thing then you won't be bummed out. rt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Trainspotting HBO
HBO's Six Feet Under pages list the music credits this season - not sure if they're trying to prove how edgy they are or it's a prerequisite for their music licensing contract. There's a soundtrack coming out w/ both Rae Christian and Photek remixes of the theme music. My fave musical moment this season came when Brenda screamed and danced around her house to a Polly Jean Harvey b-side. Anyway, here's the credit for the Beltran track; interesting that they took it from a comp: Song #7 - Brenda jerks off one of her massage clients. John Beltran - Collage of Dreams [from the compilation Dimensions in Ambience Volume 2, Quango Records 1997] from: http://www.hbo.com/sixfeetunder/episode/season2/season2_eps6.shtml -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 7:11 PM To: 313 Subject: [313] Trainspotting HBO Anyone else catch a snip of John Beltran from Ten Days of Blue in Six Feet Under tonight? I did a sonic double-take. :) Tristan --- Upcoming Gigs: 4/14/02 - Filler @ Blue Room, Adams Morgan, DC http://www.mp313.com - Music http://www.metrotechno.net - DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com - DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] electro clash
for the more glamour/lifestyle-obsessed side of the electroclash scene, point your browsers here: http://www.glamourpimple.com/live.03.12.01/flipbooks/front_flip.html if nothing else, there are some cool Chicks on Speed/Adult. photos. --brian -Original Message- From: james boylan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] electro clash Well 'Music' on the last Madonna album was straight up Electro beats, plus Madonna's twitterings. It kinda reminded me of some of Mad Mike's stuff...eg. The Swarm I actually saw the sheet music for 'Music' at the music store. With guitar chords! Apparently there's just G major through the verse, and G minor during the chorus... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] losing control remixes on eBay
i hate to ruin the day of anyone on-list who already bid on it, but there's a copy of the hawtin, hood and craig remixes of losing control on ebay right now. i'm not even the seller! brian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] LFO Back together?
mark bell is listed in the production credits, albeit minimally. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 9:05 AM To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] Cc: 'Jongsma, K.J.'; '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: [313] LFO Back together? I don't think Mark Bell worked on Vespertine. It was mostly Matamos. On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Mann, Ravinder [CCS] wrote: The Mark Bell productions in Bjorks Vesperine were quite dirty, glitchty, clickly etc whereas Gez Varley's rather superb Bayou Paradise was very deep techno, lots of echo, reverb with minimal and clean production. It would be interested to see the work they would put together as a team. What kind of Dj set would they likely play i wonder too ? Rav -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 3:30 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject:[313] LFO Back together? Wow, does this mean they are back together? From wath i have heard they both stopped working together because of some not-so-pleasant-things. Mark Bell started producing the big shots (Bjork, Depeche Mode) and Gez was doing that G-Man thing. [EMAIL PROTECTED] you are very lucky!!! LFO , both of them, well you are spoilt.. I can't remember the last time I saw those guyss,,,years ago.. :) -Original Message- From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2002 15:19 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] This Week In Rome Hi list, looks like this year is gonna be a very electronic year in Rome and in Italy in general.ther will be many techno/house/electornic acts coming to town and many are also 313 related. on Wednesday 20th March, LFO (apparently both members) are gonna spin for us @ Modula, the electronic night at Goa. Next month we'll have LayoBushwacka and the Anthony Rother. Among other artists that will be gracing our shores during the coming months are Recloose, Robert Hood, Green Velvet, Carl Craig, and Kirk Degiorgio. I doubt any list members will come, but I just wanted to represent a little ;-) fab. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] LFO Again...
despite the existence of lyte funky ones, the rock boy band, mark bell IS working on a new LFO album. it's on the warp web site. brian -Original Message- From: Gwendal Cobert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 7:46 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] LFO Again... There was some talk on this list about LFO a few days back. I just read somewhere about a new album release from a british band called LFO. It turns out that the record industry just created another we-would-like-to-be-cool-and-make-a-lot-of-money rock act which is also called LFO. Back to listening LFO's 'we are back' These rock guys have been around for quite a while now, I remember browsing through online listings and thinking wow ! an LFO record I didn't even know existed ! something like two years ago... never heard of the guys from any other source though. Gwendal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] LFO Again...
that's LSG (Gerald) Levert, (Keith) Sweat, (Johnny) Gill --brian -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 3:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] LFO Again... - Original Message - From: Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 10:45 AM Subject: RE: [313] LFO Again... There was some talk on this list about LFO a few days back. I just read somewhere about a new album release from a british band called LFO. It turns out that the record industry just created another we-would-like-to-be-cool-and-make-a-lot-of-money rock act which is also called LFO. Back to listening LFO's 'we are back' These rock guys have been around for quite a while now, I remember browsing through online listings and thinking wow ! an LFO record I didn't even know existed ! something like two years ago... never heard of the guys from any other source though. Gwendal Wasn't there also an RB trio called LFO? Gerald Levert and two others I think??? Google searches aren't turning up much b/c I keep getting lists of artists beginning with L. Tristan --- Upcoming Gigs: 4/6/02 - The Basics @ The Abyss, DC 4/14/02 - Filler @ Blue Room, Adams Morgan, DC http://www.mp313.com - Music http://www.metrotechno.net - DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com - DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] OT: Hawtin fonts
i'm not sure if the font you're talking about is the jagged red and blackone, but it was used on artifakts (b.c.) post-consumed and is currently used on the one-page plastikman.com site. brian -Original Message- From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 7:28 AM To: Berislav; 313 Subject: Re: [313] OT: Hawtin fonts I don't think Plastikman has used that font in quite a while ... check the packaging for Consumed. At 1:19 PM +0100 3/19/02, Berislav wrote: im defenitly tired of looking around, so im asking does anybody have plastikman`s font F Uck 'n' Pretty, because mr. Hawtin is coming to play over here, and i need font for video wall please help, b. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] nouveau electro vs. broken beat
i don't understand why all the new-school electro-pop gets so much criticism but so much new-school jazz/house/breaks, broken-beat-type stuff passes the quality test. i know it all comes down to individual tastes, but it just leaves me thinking. are we really so ashamed of electronic music's history that we can't perceive that early'-80s past as worth revisiting? are we so enamored of traditional musicality that the same reheated funk, soul and jazz textures can be palatable again and again, with just a light digital sheen added to each new round? i think that, as with the as one/2000 black/etc. nu-jazz school, a lot of great songs have come out of the latest round of electro-inspired pop. just because it's catchy and just because the face decides to jump on the bandwagon doesn't mean the music itself sucks. yes, yes, the whole fact that new york is getting all the attention when electro never really died in detroit leaves a bit of a bad taste in our collective mouth. but this whole concept that the past can never be revisited in a new way, or that only certain strains of music from the past are quality enough to revisit, is just rubbish. i had a lot more fun at the le tigre/chicks on speed show last weekend in san francisco than i've had at a straigh-up DJ event in quite a while. fun is not the enemy! the felix da housecat record is about as straight-up retro as you can get - he lifts whole riffs and hooks from bobby o and vanity 6! but it's as personal and quirky as any of his album projects, full of analogue melancholy and killer beats. is it somehowe more palatable just because he's from chicago and he's paid his purist house (maddkatt courtship, etc.) and techno (aphrohead) dues? brian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Disco
this is an ancient thread but i'm playing catchup. i know they're incredibly over-sampled and over-played, but the Chic Organization had an immeasurible influence on both pop and electronic music. all of the early Chic albums contain killer, if over-familiar, singles and hidden-gem album tracks. even their Sister Sledge productions are paragons of economy and melancholy beauty. Good Times is often cited as a big influence on everything from deep house to Inner City to Goldie's Inner City Life. i can't recommend 'em enough. brian -Original Message- From: Gwendal Cobert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:21 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Disco I know this is off-topic, so replies could be off-list, but since there are so many people knowledgeable on disco on this list... I'm currently discovering there is more to the genre than Abba and Boney M, so I'd appreciate recommendations for comps, albums... especially stuff like Salsoul Orchestra thanks in advance ! Gwendal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] A shocking hobby...
for a very different side of speedy j, check out 1998's self-titled debut from slag boom van loon (NOT the recent remix album so far, although that's worth a listen, too). it's a collab b/t jochem paap and the aforementioned mike paradinas but they seem to cancel out each other's noisier tendencies. serense, sometimes playful and always quirky idm, with the track titles (angels at the gates of pandemonium, butch, broccoli, poppy seed) giving a good indication of the beautiful weirdness on display. brian dillard -Original Message- From: Gwendal Cobert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:26 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] A shocking hobby... Well, Speedy J has had quite a varied output, some of which I would rank as drill'n bass (think Mike Paradinas et al), some of which is clearly IDM (mostly what he released on Warp), some is Detroit techno - and good Detroit techno too, I'm thinking about his +8 records... Haven't been listening to this specific one for a while now, but I've got fond memories of it ; and it certainly is a good example of good IDM. There are plenty of people putting out excellent IDM these days - off the top of my head : check out the Leaf comps - and there have been plenty releasing great IDM in the last ten years... just check out the Warp catalogue Gwendal Have been listening to Speedy J's album a shocking hobby for a few days now. Lot's of distorted abstract noise, but I like it!!! I was wondering what the general opinion on this album is, and, whether this album as considered to be a good example of IDM music (not to step on any toes here), and if not, what good examples are? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] claude young tapes dated
amen. having attended sickness and recovery as a total newbie a few months earlier and been blown away by mills, hawtin and acquaviva, i attended blastoff as a budding convert to all things techno. hell and claude blew my mind - and still blow it, from time to time. brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] claude young tapes dated i bought the dexit tape at grammaphone in chicago fall of 1996. that night, mike dearborn threw his first Blast Off party with dj hell, claude young, miss djax, joey beltram, stacy pullen (jungle set). damn, why aren't there events like that anymore? (rhetorical question) On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: someone sent me some tapes and i need them dated.. claude young as you like it claude young dexit not recordings of tracks those dj promo ones thanks -k minus 63 in detroit (ok it just feels that way ;) mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] acid (house)
try mad on acid, a two-cd compilation of chicago classics plus a few other turn-of-the-decade acid tracks, including one by joey beltram (can't remember which). brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:12 AM To: Grammenos, Peter Cc: 'Jongsma, K.J.'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] acid (house) a real good primer would be the hardfloor x-mix. it has tracks by dj pierre, armando, phuture. unfortuately, it doesn't have 'acid track', but i don't know of anyother real good chicago acid 'mix' cds. On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Grammenos, Peter wrote: What about DJ Pierre ? ... he made 'Wild Pitch' famous throughout the European, Asian and eventually US markets. Just wondering because last time he played in NYC the flyer touted him as being the originator of acid house. Of course you can't believe everything you read on a flyer but i've heard this from other people as well. -Pete -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:01 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] acid (house) Of course there a lot of different opinions on what was the first acid track but i think i am fairly save when say it's Phuture's Acid Tracks. There is a nice interview with Marshal Jefferson in the Modulations documentary where he explains how he made that track together with Nick Jones and Spanky. When you are looking for some good ol'acid house check the shit Armando made, he made some amazing stuff. Tracks like 1-5-1, Land of Confusion and Confusion Revenge still make me smile and bounce around. For more 313-related acid try WPA's Seawolf and the Acid Rain I - III records on Underground Resistance. The old stuff on UR has a lot of TB in it, Jupiter Jazz for instance... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings all. Just to expand my knowledge a bit more, I have been recently interested in acid/acid house and its history. When I think of this genre Baby Ford and portamento'd 303 basslines come to mind, but I'm sure I am either just scratching the surface or overgeneralizing. The track Are You Saved? by Traxx and Deecoy on the Int. Deejay Gigolos comp. 5 got my gears turning mentally as to ask what the roots/sounds of acid truly are. If possible, please post links/discogs/mixes. -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] 313 sighting: French and Saunders
Watching Gentlemen Prefer French Saunders last night - DVD of highlights from the British sketch-comedy show that spawned Absolutely Fabulous. The actual sketch that originated the AbFab idea was called Modern Mother and Daughter and it's included on this DVD. The sketch takes place during a party where the mom character's friends are all throwing down while the daughter character is trying to study. What is the party music? Good Life. My jaw dropped. AbFab had lots of jokes about rave culture over the years; both the Pet Shop Boys and Junior Vasquez have cut AbFab records. But this is the only 313 reference I know of in their oeuvre - Frankie Knuckles is as close as AbFab itself ever got. Brian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Charles Webster
I think it's well-produced, but a lot of the lyrics are pretty cheesy. My Sweet Butterfly? OK, like THAT'S not the most overused metaphor in the entire English language. Nothing makes my skin crawl more than destroying a soulful piece of electronic music with lyrics that belong on an N'Sync album. Brian -Original Message- From: Dave Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:42 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Charles Webster Yeah I've heard it (own it). I really like it actually, it's mostly downbeat tempo, some male vocals, some female vocals. Very soulful. -Dave --- Mad'R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody heard his new album yet ? what do you think ? thxs Mad'R __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] about the members
me: 29 born: battle creek reside: san francisco previous: 5 years in chicago w/ frequent trips to detroit before that: michgan state occupation: full-time programmer/part-time freelance writer make music? no, but review it at armchair-dj.com brian -Original Message- From: Jones, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 7:41 AM To: 'T.J.Johnson'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] about the members Name: George Jones IV Alias: Logic7, Subject28 Occupation: Technical Systems Administrator - PentaMark WorldWide (Chrysler's only marketing/ad firm) Residence: Sterling Heights, Mi I produce music as a hobby, but I'm gonna try to do more with it this year. I DJ occasionally around Detroit. I'm also into graphic design, programming, and 3D animation. My main website is http://www.geocities.com/labwerx and for design it's http://www.geocities.com/labwerx/design . Next... -Original Message- From: T.J.Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:57 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] about the members Ok, you guys might think this is dumb, but I was thinking it would be cool if we all had a better idea who we were talking to. What do you guys do for a living? How many of you are producers/DJs? Is music a hobby or your job? Me: 27 yo I design automobile axles for Visteon (Tier 1 supplier). I live in the detroit metro area. I go to school for engineering at Lawrence Tech during the night. I produce techno tracks as a hobby and DJ them too (sometimes). Your turn... ;) TJ www.wireframerecords.com www.mp313.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] article in Salon.com mentions Strings of Life
http://www.salon.com/ent/music/review/2002/01/29/chemical/index.html There's a really irritating review of the new Chemical Brothers album that mentions Strings of Life and the birth of Detroit techno in today's Salon.com. Brian Dillard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Baxter mix?
it's ... ok. i'm actually a pretty big blake baxter fan, and this disc is not high on my rotation. certainly not up to the par of the later globus mixes (bell, herbert). --brian -Original Message- From: Wes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 10:46 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Baxter mix? Any opinions on the Blake Baxter Globus mix that came out on Tresor a number of years ago with tracks by Basic Bastard etc. on it? I'm not a huge fan, but have a definite soft spot for Visions of You that wicked old track on the Made in Detroit comp. Has this mix stood the test of time? Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] RE: track id - kevin saunderson in deep space DEMF bootleg
oh, and i'm also wondering about the techno tracks just before the end of the CD. one of 'em sounds like e-dancer but i'm not sure which track. i'd also like to know what the track immediately afterward is. brian -Original Message- From: Brian Dillard To: '313@hyperreal.org' Sent: 1/19/02 3:47 PM Subject: track id - kevin saunderson in deep space DEMF bootleg i'm wondering if folks could help me ID a couple of tracks from one of the KMS CDR bootlegs that were overflowing in record time's bins at DEMF time. from about the 22-minute mark to the 26-minute mark, kevin works the shit out of his filters on a track with a mostly spoken-word female vocal and a shuddering bass synth hook. the vocals go remember back in the younger years we used to go to the parties and you'd stay up and you'd dance all night long because it was a marathon. it didn't matter what color you was. it was always ... eclectic. blacks, whites, puerto ricans, gays, you name it. everybody was out on the floor having a funky good time. hands in the air. you know what i mean? ... dj playin' one of my favorite songs ... throwin' my hands in the air having a real good time. this is for you, jack. then she starts actually singing, i feel the music. i throw my hands in the air. --brian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] chicks on speed / le tigre to play sf
went to the last of three sold-out sleater-kinney shows in san francisco last night and chatted with alex from chicks on speed, who was in attendence. they're playing the great american in support of le tigre for two shows on sunday march 10. i highly recommend this show to any bay area folks who are into the more felix/miss kittin/hacker/peaches techno-pop end of the electro specturm. the new le tigre album, feminist sweepstakes, is a pretty great riot-girl/new wave fusion with a lot more DIY electronics than the debut album, while chicks on speed continue to put out really wonderful art-damaged punk techno, including a new EP with krautrock revival poster boys kreidler. brian dillard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] agents of change
i find this whole thread about dancing/not dancing and talking/not talking to be very interesting because it gets at people's entire conception about what a party should be. there's the classic concert conception of a musical event where the audience is supposed to stare at the performers and move only within the confines of the small space they have staked out for themselves. then there is the nightclub/rave conception which is all about movement and interaction with other members of the audience and emphatically NOT about sitting there staring at the musicians. personally, if i wanted to go to a musical event where i was supposed to shut up, sit still and listen politely, i'd go hear a chamber quartet. maybe it's just me i would never get up on stage in front of a musician during a PA, but i see no problem with talking to your friends, dancing, trainspotting, or engaging in any other activity at a club-style event ... unless perhaps your activities result in skipping needles, unplugged equipment or the like. (i have a friend who once sat down underneath a stage and plunged an entire room of a london club [turnmills] into blackness by sitting on a power cord. oops!) now that live electronic performances have become more widespread, however, different show-behavior ideologies seem to be competing within the same event. my favorite example of this EVER was at a stereolab/mouse on mars gig in '97 in chicago when the sweater-rock crowd just ... STOOD there, gawking at the wacky germans dancing around and diddling their machines onstage. they literally had NO idea how to loosen up or dance or have a good time. it was hilarious. --brian -Original Message- From: Paul Jenvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 8:56 PM To: :); 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] agents of change Since you've told me that both you are a cool behind the scenes musician, AND that you've been around since 1997 AD, I'll have to concede. You've pulled rank. You are way too old school. I give up, ok? It was a really good party :) wrote: ok. first off, the venue was NOT packed. it was close, but there was PLENTY of room to dance. I for one did not dance, but if I am paying 35 bux, its my own damn business if I want to dance, stand or lay down and take a damn nap. I personally don't gawk at musicians because I know how annoying it is to be them, with people standing around staring at your gear. a lot of people seem to forget that the DJ is not the party, they only augment the gathering of people with music in which the collective share common taste. I for one was wondering why the venue was NOT packed... probably had something to do with the detroit police that were standing by. :\ anyone who saw aphex twin in pontiac in um, '97 would know what I am using as a reference point when speaking of packed venues... no flames plz /rant -Joe -- R17 is not a fixed velocity, but it is clearly far too fast. -- - Original Message - From: TJ Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Paul Jenvey [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [313] agents of change Please don't tell me that you were that guy! The tall, blonde-haired guy at the front of the crowd that kept turning around andf saying, Geez! Why is no one dancing!? Then turning around and not dancing yourself. I really hope that if you are complaining about people not dancing that you were just tearing it up and cutting a rug. To tell you the truth, I was busy watching Mills' techniques. Once in a while, a killer track would pop on and i just couldn't help myself but to move my ass like the true rump-shaker that I am, but for the most-part (I hate to dissappoint you, but...) I was watching, admiring, and learning from a true innovator. And, to further add to my list of reasons why people werent moving at the front, it was friggin packed! How could anyone even move, let alone dance! We were shoulder to shoulder. People were tearing it up 10-20 feet back. That's just the way it always is at a packed venue where people want to watch the artist. Too bad people couldn't watch and dance at the same time! TJ Johnson www.wireframerecords.com - Original Message - From: Paul Jenvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 1:28 PM Subject: [313] agents of change Well, what did everyone else think of the party? I was very impressed by the music and the venue, but I felt the crowd was almost unattentive.. My girlfriend Allison I were up neard the front around 3:30 when Jeff went on, and we were astounded at the number of people just standing around. I felt as if I was gathered around an accident scene,
RE: [313] FW: Record Info
i think the guy's french and it's just fractured english, but it _is_ pretty funny that his message can be interpreted to mean its own opposite just because of incorrect verb forms brian -Original Message- From: James Bucknell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 3:13 PM To: veto Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] FW: Record Info is the label boss drug hating? i always took: Stop to waste your time with drugs!! I know what I'm talking about as a call to use more drugs. i thought it was a version of 'turn on, drop out'. james veto [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/20/2001 06:03:25 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: [313] FW: Record Info I should thanx so many people for their support If I forget any one I should thank no one, except Mad Mike for his help (and his letters), Chez Damier cause he knows what love is. A special thanx to my Daddy who gave me peace, strength and tranquility and the brand new B.P.M Dream Team Sylvian, Jerome, Eric. Stop to waste your time with drugs!! I know what I'm talking about SR So, who is our mysterious, drug hating label boss with so many heavy name Techno-bods to call his friend??? Any help on this would be greatly appreciated Cheers Jason Brunton Iridite -- End of Forwarded Message - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] CD Gallery updated
wow, 137 out of 212. i have a lot of catching up to do. what can anybody tell me about these releases: silent phase: rewired remixes various artists/mark gage intelliNET: the story so far especially the latter as i thought i had all plus 8-related comps and have never heard of this one. --brian -Original Message- From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 6:23 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] CD Gallery updated Just a quick update note: http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/gallery/CD/index.htm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Theorem - Nano
yes, but it's VERY hard to find these days. i had to settle for a CDR of Napster MP3s. dale--how about bugging richie co. for a re-release under the plus 8 classics banner? brian dillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 8:45 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Theorem - Nano Hi, Did that one ever come out on CD? Thanx, W The information in this Internet email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this Internet email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this Internet email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in any applicable governing ING Barings' terms of business or client engagement letter. Visit us at www.ingbarings.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] BLACK DOG
http://www.dogsquad.com/ is the official site for black dog productions. brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 9:33 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] BLACK DOG Hello everybody! I am looking for some info about Black Dog. Google is not a big help :-( does anybody have a link? I'm still looking for the Temple of transparent bells album. Does anybody have a tip where to find it or does anybody sell it? Any help is highly appreciated... Cheers, Arne Arne Weinberg GROUND ZERO Rec. / STARBABY Rec. / PROPAGANDA Rec. ** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] techno/jazz - spring heel jack and omni trio
longtime jungle/jazz innovators spring heel jack recently released a new lp, masses, in cooperation with a jazz combo called the blue series continuum. probably the least drum-n-bass sounding record shj have ever released, but i like it. very squaky jazz with electronics underneath. i think coxon and wales created ambient/beat backing tracks and then the jazz musicians improvised over the top in the studio. personally my fave shj records are the previous two, disappeared and treader. VERY percussive and beat-driven but only occasionally jungle sounding. lots of great melodic elements speaking of melodic drum-n-bass, and returning the discussion to detroit, what do folks think of the new omni trio album, even angels cast shadows? producer rob haigh wears his detroit techno influences on his sleeve, and although he has yet to top his debut album, music for the next millennium (a.k.a. the deepest cut), his stuff's always worth picking up. my theory is that every other omni trio lp is a four-star affair, and this being his fifth, it's ace. much less sedate than the previous byte size life (even though that one had a track title that referenced detroit), it returns to the sinister edge of 1997's skeleton keys. anyone else here heard it? brian dillard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] ram bunctions
I recently got the Fred LP under the name Fred Gianelli from the late '80s on I think Wax Trax ... don't remember where I found it, though it was online somewhere. There's also a set of Rosebud remixes on the same label. Both were on CD. The ambient CD Telepathic Romance on Sahko is pretty easy to find; I think I saw a copy at Amoeba in San Fran recently. I also found both volumes of Telepathic Wisdom, which together present a nice overview of the early to mid-90s Telepathic stuff, online. I just checked gemm.comm and there were copies of many of these releases listed. Someone should really snatch up the $10 used copies of the telepathic wisdom releases (last link below) if they're not already taken. http://www6.gemm.com/c/search.pl?sid=6343680key=79201field=ARTIST+OR+TITLE wild=rosebud http://www7.gemm.com/c/search.pl?sid=6343680key=79201disp_ad_format_mode=0 artist=FRED http://www5.gemm.com/c/search.pl?sid=6343680key=79201field=ARTIST+OR+TITLE wild=telepathic+romance http://www6.gemm.com/c/search.pl?sid=6343680key=79201field=ARTIST+OR+TITLE wild=telepathic+wisdom Brian -Original Message- From: Fred Giannelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 1:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] ram bunctions Since most of my stuff is out of print these days, good luck searching. I don't have any copies for sale. Try www.RecordTime.com for old Telepathic backcatalogue. New fG remix of Stewart Walker track here: http://www.stewartwalker.com/music/music.html Telepathic regards, fRED -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 FX 978-741-8901 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mp3.com/fredgiannelli http://www.telepathica.com on 10/24/01 1:05 PM, Bulger, Tim at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For that matter, where can one find _any_ Fred Gianelli productions under any guise? I'd be happy to extend my collection. :) -Original Message- From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 9:56 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] ram bunctions The Kooky Scientist a/k/a the Rodney Dangerfield of electronic music that rerminds me, does anyone know wich PLUS8 release was kooky scientist - ram bunctions ? And do you know any online store that has this records still in stock? Thanks, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Felix Da Housecat
here's my review from armchair-dj.com. if you visit it on the site it includes links to earlier felix albums, including i know electrikboy. http://www.armchair-dj.com/handler.asp?/reviews/k/kittenz_and_thee_glitz.asp Felix Da Housecat Kittenz and Thee Glitz CD, City Rockers/Vital, UK, 2001 On his second full-length as Felix Da Housecat and his first album since 1999's equally first-rate Aphrohead and Maddkatt Courtship outings, Chicago maverick Felix Stallings recruits a stellar cast of collaborators for another excursion into unlikely dance-pop hybridization. Frigid electro, moist slow jams, Moroder madness and house/techno history coalesce into a masterful bricolage that revisits the crossroads of early-'80s clubland without ever settling for cheap pastiche. Even when he's nicking riffs from Hi-NRG hero Bobby O (lead single Silver Screen Shower Scene) or giving Apollonia 6's Bite the Beat a Eurotrash makeover (What Does It Feel Like?), Stallings exhibits a tight grasp of modern dancefloor dynamics and a gift for filtering his influences subtly. The quiet-storm electro-ballads Runaway Dreamer, Walk With Me and Pray for a Star - the latter two originally Maddkatt Courtship b-sides - sound more like Blake Baxter remixing New Edition covers of Michael Jackson classics than they sound like straightforward homages to the Gloved One; actually, though, it's Harrison Crump and Stallings himself on vocals, their limpid posturings sounding for all the world like Craig David after a particularly bad breakup. Several other tracks, meanwhile, exhume the deadpan-chantuese tradition that Chicks on Speed have spent the last couple years mastering but inject the Nico- and Grace Jones-derived genre with a fresh sense of dancefloor delight. Second single Harlot, for example, finds vocalist Melistar playing the sardonic bitch-queen over buzzing electro beats and an Electric Dreams bridge; elsewhere, Madame Hollywood lets Hacker and Hell associate Miss Kitten deliver a starry-eyed but knowing little monologue atop a twinkling synth-pop bedrock with a Kraftwerk-perfect melody. As the album progresses, such crossover-ready collaborations give way to manic-depressive electronic symphonies, from the baroque twitterings of She Lives to the piano-laced shuffle of Sequel2Sub. It's here and on the liquid-nitrogen beat-squirts of Magic Fly that the producer and his pals prove they can crystallize their myriad influences without resorting to obvious '80s signifiers. Aside from the singles, only the analogue assault of the Junior Sanchez-assisted Control Freaq and the leaden thump of the martial Happy Hour seem designed for the nightclubs of the Oughties instead of the Eighties. As with many an electronic auteur before him, Felix Da Housecat has left the dancefloor ghetto. Brian J. Dillard -Original Message- From: John Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 8:27 AM To: IDM; 313 Subject: [313] Felix Da Housecat Anyone heard his new full-length? Comparisons to Maddkatt Courtship's I Know Elektrikboy? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] K Hand - (was: Astralwerks - Detroit Beyond the 3rd Wav e LP)
Come On Now Baby from the Detroit: Beyond the Third Wave comp is my favorite K Hand track ever. Really slamming dancefloor production and a gritty, nagging vocal hook. I've got some of her other stuff, including the new LP on Tresor, and haven't really heard anything I liked as much as that. Any suggestions on good K Hand stuff, perhaps in the vein of that track? Brian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] discog
for plus 8: http://www.plus8.com/Plus_8/ this one and the probe one that are just posted aren't linked to from the current plus8 site but since they're now a year behind schedule in getting the final plus8 site up, it's a good thing the old content is all still there lurking. brian -Original Message- From: FC3 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 10:59 AM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: [313] discog i was wondering if anyone knows where i can find a complete discography of the Plus 8 and Probe labels. thanks alot. jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: [313] KMS Info
good love is the recent inner city 12. i think it was released in a couple of different versions but i'm not sure. brian -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:45 AM To: 313 Detroit Subject: [313] KMS Info This is my first post for a while as I am very distressed over the US incident. I wondered if anyone can recall the recent Inner City 12 as I can't find its name anywhere. Also on the AMG bio for Kevin it cites Kevin as being the youngest of nine which conflicts with other biog info so if anyone can indicate the source of this that would be great. I hear that Slam's Virtuoso (nicest track on Alien Radio, very Detroit influenced) is being released with mixes by Laurent Garnier and DJ Rolando, which sounds good to me. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: [313] KMS Info
good love is the recent inner city 12. i think it was released in a couple of different versions but i'm not sure. brian -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:45 AM To: 313 Detroit Subject: [313] KMS Info This is my first post for a while as I am very distressed over the US incident. I wondered if anyone can recall the recent Inner City 12 as I can't find its name anywhere. Also on the AMG bio for Kevin it cites Kevin as being the youngest of nine which conflicts with other biog info so if anyone can indicate the source of this that would be great. I hear that Slam's Virtuoso (nicest track on Alien Radio, very Detroit influenced) is being released with mixes by Laurent Garnier and DJ Rolando, which sounds good to me. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Enough with the False CNN Coverage ting, already!
um, mincing words means to quibble about precise definitions when the general meaning of the discussion is clear. you're the one who's mincing words. i think you meant to say, don't misuse words, but whether you call it racism, ethnic discrimination, anti-semitism or anything else, the fact remains that all sorts of americans who don't look like johnny whitebread are being harassed, discriminated against and in some cases killed because xenophobic americans, looking to alleviate their feelings of powerless, are lashing out against anyone they think even looks like they could be a terrorist. my south asian boyfriend's a grad student in liberal bastion ann arbor of all places, and he's been getting pointed at in the residence halls, hassled by teen-agers at dairy queen and generally made to feel like he shouldn't be showing his face. this is happening all over the country, and harassment is the least of it. you seem to feel very superior that you know the difference between a race, an ethnic group, etc., but what's your point? does it do a sikh man who's being gunned down at a gas station in arizona any good to argue that not only are arabs caucasians, but that sikhs aren't arabs at all but are south asians? i don't think so. brian dillard -Original Message- From: Jason Kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 7:21 AM To: gord; David González Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Enough with the False CNN Coverage ting, already! Let's just clarify one thing here buddy... anti-Muslim or anti-Arab sentiment, as wrong as it is, CAN NOT be equated with Racism. Why, you ask? Because Arabs do not represent a distinct Racial group. Technically they are Caucasian, but ETHNICALLY they are Semitic peoples... the same as Jews! In fact, Jews and Arabs are genetic cousins; there has been scientific research done to this effect. I'm really getting sick of people calling it Racism. What we're talking about is anti-Arab or anti-semitic behavior, not Racism. Don't mince words! -J on 9/20/01 6:05 PM, gord at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wasn't going to post anything to this list about this topic (since it really isn't the forum for it), but this is a great point. Much of the mainstream media has been putting a very racist spin on this and has created a dangerous situation. I have heard personally from one Islamic man living here who has received a number of death threats. I also know that there are a lot of Palestinians living in North America who are scared to walk the streets for fear of racist backlash. The analogy I always like to draw for people is if Timothy McVeigh had bombed a building in Iraq, would you feel it was right for the people of Iraq to blame the entire United States for it and want to retaliate against us? Would you, as a fellow American, feel any connection at all to his actions? I'm sure this is how the majority of Palestinian people feel at the point. For the media to show that footage and imply that it represents the feelings of all Palestinians is atrocious. g On Thursday, September 20, 2001, at 12:24 PM, David González wrote: ok, maybe you're right, but as far as I know, in those images all you can see is about 5 kids, a woman and two adults celebrating (about 9 or 10 people). That's all the celebration? is that all the footage CNN could get? Why are this images said to be celebration of the palestinians, for me it is a celebration of 10 palestiniansd, most of them kids... I think that is also distorting reality. I'm not defending anyone here, all I say is this type of things promote hate and violence, and that's exactly what we are trying to avoid, or is it not? I'm really getting sick of this thing. The False CNN coverage is a hoax: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_154/1540102. st m and http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_402920.html?menu=news.latestheadlines CNN says fake footage claims are 'baseless and ridiculous' . . . - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Enough with the False CNN Coverage ting, already!
i completely agree that it's not just johnny whitebread who's doing the persecuting. in my original post i said it was people who don't look like johnny whitebread who are BEING persecuted, but perhaps i should have said that it's people who don't fall into an instantly recognizable ethnic group which is well-established in the united states. i think there are lots of instances of blacks / whites / hispanics and even east asians not knowing or in some cases caring about the rich diversity of ethnic and national groups that exist outside what we traditionally think of as the four main ethnic groups. hence sikhs getting harassed because people think they're arabs, pakastani women being threatened, etc. american thinking on race generally tends toward gradual, if grudging, acceptance of specific groups once they have reached a certain population and economic level in this country. remember, at one time italians, poles, even the irish were considered unsavory ethnic groups even though they were eventually subsumed into the illusory caucasian ethnic group. at any rate, i DO think it's the responsability of the media not to just broadcast the same platitudes about not turning against our own from politicians, but to educate about the many, many nationalities and ethnicities that may seem, during these trying times, to be arabic. all the rhetoric i'm hearing kind of just casually mentions that non-arabs are being harassed; i think that people are so frightened of seeming like they're saying it's ok to harass arabs as long as you're sure that they're arabs that not enough is being said about racial, ethnic and religious diversity of those parts of the world that aren't america/europe/china/japan/africa. my $.02. brian -Original Message- From: Jason Kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 8:20 AM To: Brian Dillard; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Enough with the False CNN Coverage ting, already! You're right... I misused the term mincing words, ironically enough. But I guess my point is that it is not just Johnny Whitebread who might be persecuting Arabs right now. I don't know about Ann Arbor, but where I live in very ethnically diverse Brooklyn, I have heard *racially diverse* people (Black, White, and Hispanic) express suspicion towards Arab or Muslim residents. It is not a racial issue because, although Billy Redneck might tend to be the one who actually commits an act of violence towards someone who may not even be Arab, there is no specific racial allegiance amongst non-whites that embraces Arabs either. These are cultural and ethnic biases that people of many races have. For example, there have been longtime tensions between Arab and Black communities in certain areas including Harlem and Detroit, which has the largest Arab population in the country. Perhaps I came off a little strong, but I just don't think this type of prejudice should necessarily be confused with Racism. -J on 9/20/01 7:42 PM, Brian Dillard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: um, mincing words means to quibble about precise definitions when the general meaning of the discussion is clear. you're the one who's mincing words. i think you meant to say, don't misuse words, but whether you call it racism, ethnic discrimination, anti-semitism or anything else, the fact remains that all sorts of americans who don't look like johnny whitebread are being harassed, discriminated against and in some cases killed because xenophobic americans, looking to alleviate their feelings of powerless, are lashing out against anyone they think even looks like they could be a terrorist. my south asian boyfriend's a grad student in liberal bastion ann arbor of all places, and he's been getting pointed at in the residence halls, hassled by teen-agers at dairy queen and generally made to feel like he shouldn't be showing his face. this is happening all over the country, and harassment is the least of it. you seem to feel very superior that you know the difference between a race, an ethnic group, etc., but what's your point? does it do a sikh man who's being gunned down at a gas station in arizona any good to argue that not only are arabs caucasians, but that sikhs aren't arabs at all but are south asians? i don't think so. brian dillard -Original Message- From: Jason Kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 7:21 AM To: gord; David González Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Enough with the False CNN Coverage ting, already! Let's just clarify one thing here buddy... anti-Muslim or anti-Arab sentiment, as wrong as it is, CAN NOT be equated with Racism. Why, you ask? Because Arabs do not represent a distinct Racial group. Technically they are Caucasian, but ETHNICALLY they are Semitic peoples... the same as Jews! In fact, Jews and Arabs are genetic cousins; there has been scientific research done to this effect. I'm really getting
RE: [313] submissive.
I _worship_ this record.Ccan anyone recommend earlier releases from Mr. Ruskin besides the other Tresor LP? I know he had some problems in the past with getting his personal vision reflected in the records he worked on Brian P.S. Review of Into Submission at http://www.armchair-dj.com/reviews/i/into_submission.asp. -Original Message- From: Jake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 3:31 PM To: Anya Stang; 313 Subject: Re: [313] submissive. It is an amazing follow up to point 2.. I like into submission more though.. Its sounds deeper while point 2 was kinda hard. jake on 9/7/01 2:28 PM, Anya Stang at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got James Ruskin's Into Submission only very recently (dbl.12 out on Tresor.173) and I'm totally hooked on Confession already. So beautiful - it's one of those hairsonbackofneckraising-tunes. Enjoy! Anya - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] detroit discussion + pubahs review in the village voice
ouch! there's a good hawtin crack in here and a mean rolando one. funny how my sympathy is inversely proportional to the artists' marketing budgets. anyway, let the melee begin: === Whippet Good by Hobey Echlin Detroit Grand Pubahs Funk All Y'All Jive Electro For a music that started out sounding like George Clinton and Kraftwerk trapped in an elevator, as Derrick May famously described Juan Atkins's early efforts, Detroit techno has aged about as gracefully as Three's Company reruns. Wearing its classic sound like wide lapels, Knights of the Jaguar from Underground Resistance last summer may have been full of the lush, linear abstraction that made it Detroit's biggest hit in 10 years, but with its Love Boat Theme strings, it was also the most anachronistic. The problem is that, from Richie Hawtin trademarking the 909 drum machine for his mix CDs to Carl Craig's oblique tech-house to Stacey Pullen's fiercer take on the same not-quite-techno-not-quite-house gray area, Detroit producers, it seems, have only managed the Kraftwerk-leaving old George trapped in the elevator. While ghetto-tech has done its part to funk up the Detroit legacy with electro raunch and hip-hop flava (see DJ Assault's recent turn as a rapper and Disco D's remix of 8 Ball and MJG's Buck Bounce), nobody has taken May's Clinton-Kraftwerk analogy as literally-or hilariously-as the Detroit Grand Pubahs. A year ago, the DGP team of producer Andy Toth (a/k/a Dr. Toefinger) and unsung local Detroit DJ and eccentric Matt Goudy (a/k/a Paris the Black Fu) held up a funhouse mirror to the stiff-lipped techno scene with the quasi-hit Sandwiches, recasting the dubby minimalism of Germany's Basic Channel with a helium-pitched vocal as horny as it was retarded: I will be the burger baby and you will be the bun/So make your thighs like butter, easy to spread/ And we can make sandwiches on the dancefloor. Good life, indeed. Faced with making a whole album of like-minded tunes, Toth and Goudy prove they're no Primitive Radio Gods, even if they aren't quite the blip-and-bleep Mothership, either. Though it's clear they're trying: From an opening skit promising to find the lost files of funk and the ensuing P-Funk homage of the title track, with standin'-on-the-verge lyrics like You can take your dead ass home if you can't funk with this, Funk All Y'All's mission statement is to re-acquaint techno with its funk roots, one cold techno beat and over-the-top vocal at a time-just like Atomic Dog two decades before. One Hump or Two and Ride-like Sandwiches-spell out in no uncertain terms that for all the reams written about techno being digital-age jazz (so à la jazz, it's populated by graying legends canonized in large, free public concerts like the Detroit Electronic Music Festival), historically this music is about moving behinds, not getting props. One Hump takes Lil' Louis's French Kiss and re-wires it as a booty call heard round the world (Moscow . . . Taiwan . . . I wanna hump it!), while Ride is ghetto-tech as songwriting, a fierce beat with a great chant: Skirts up, pants down/Now you say ride/Ride! To Goudy and Toth's credit, some of the album's best moments happen off the dancefloor. Afterschool Special flips the ghetto-tech script of pimps 'n' 'hos into a lost Flying Lizards single (with Paris's pimp character sounding curiously like Bill Cosby), just as Offbeat Killer shares, in its cheeky way, the dramatic listenability of Nick Cave's literati ramblings. But in the words of Spinal Tap, there's a fine line between clever and stupid, and before long, the Pubahs' imagination starts to outpace their minimal techno palette. The narrated techno of Schizophrenic Investigator never finds the right balance of storytelling and beats the way, say, Green Velvet's Answering Machine does. By the time the Pubahs' pun-happy song titles get better than the actual songs (Involvement Fluid), and the vocals gum up otherwise slamming electro throwdowns (The Suture the Future, Dr. Bootygrabber, etc.), the Pubahs commit the greatest sin of all: forgetting this is, if not dance music, then at least party music, not a comedy album with a Groovebox. While not as self-immolating as Armand Van Helden's nyahh-nyahh-nyahh-nyahh-nyahh house of late-his upcoming album is such a goof-off that it comes off more like wallpaper with F*** You scrawled on it than dance music-Detroit Grand Pubahs' only crime here is saying funk you over and over, letting their tongue-wagging get in the way of tearing the roof off the sucka when maybe they should trust the funk to inspire us all to shut up and dance. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Closer To The Edit
sept. 18, tho it seems like half the planet has promos. brian -Original Message- From: troy butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 2:36 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Closer To The Edit just curious...can anyone tell me the release date of richie hawtin's closer to the edit? it could be out, and i may not know it because i live in a smaller city. hit me up privately. thanks. = P3AC3, TROY __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: [313] Another journalistic hack
I did see it, and my favorite thing about it is that the writer identifies house as primarily a British export. Reminds me of when Salon.com said that with Play, Moby was restoring the spiritual element to techno. I wrote in, and actually got published, telling them that I was sure Mike Banks, Rob Hood, Derrick May, etc. etc. etc. and all the other African American producers who helped develop techno would be glad to know that a white kid from Connecticut was restoring the soul to their music by sampling out blues recordings. I didn't write to the editor this time, although I thought about it. Brian -Original Message- From: M Elliot-Knight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:14 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Another journalistic hack Though not directly related to Detroit I thought I'd share this because of the link to the recent comments by Stacey Pullen in XLR8R... San Francisco magazine September issue Pulse of the City by Sheerly Avni (page 89) The Boomboom Room (with apologies to the late John Lee Hooker) House music is a British export and was the dominant music of the Bay Area's early '90s rave scene. It's bar far the most popular electronic dance music in San Francisco. On any given night, you can usually find a small club where they are spinning music that is darker and heavier than house, such as drum 'n' bass, edgy techno, but on that same night, you can choose from among at least ten venues spinning house music. I've never like house. Happy, up-tempo rhythms, video-game bleeps - it's disco at its worst. Every time I hear it I think, Oh, they're playing that song again, the one that goes thump thump thump really fast. But if rap and arock are too familiar now, house could be the answer - so subversive, so new, that my conservative ears can only hear it as noise. Maybe house is the new rock 'n' roll - Brando with Glo Sticks She later talks to Paul Kantner (formerly of Jefferson Airplane) of all people about today's dance culture. This is how the conversation goes: I tell him about the people I've met so far who describe today's dance scene in the same way I've heard old hippies talk about community in the '60s. It's different now. Why? I ask. There's drugs, there's music, there's sex. They don't have as good drugs. Sex is always good. But most of what they're taking is the equivalent of horse tranquilizer. Which can make you pleasant, but it doesn't let you see God. In the '60s, we spoke to God on a regular basis, and he spoke back to us in many interesting ways. I make a mental note to check with my new clubbing friends: find out if they've ever seen God on the dance floor. Can a DJ build the same energy with a crowd as a band? I ask. He could if there was a real community, but there isn't. It's just people coming together to dance. They're not coming to experience the universe. She then goes on to write about Liquid after telling her friend in confidence that she wouldn't. She's a hack and a lousy friend. Sorry, I had to get that out of my system and yes I wrote to the editor. Did any of you West Coast 313ers see this article? MEK _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] FW: DE9: Closer to the Edit Tracklisting
Here is the full trackisting for Closer to the Edit. --Brian === Label: NOVAMUTE Artist: Richie Hawtin Format: CD Title: DE9: Closer To The Edit TRACK TITLE WRITTEN BY 1 0:00 Rhythm Sound Range Basic Channel 1999 RS04 BCP (BMG/UFA) Blue Train Smart Card? Blue Train/Mosaic Records 2000 Blue Train 08 copyright control (Steve O'Sullivan) Lowtec 10 Strikes to 2001 Out to Lunch/r.a.n.d.-muzik OTL06 copyright control (lowtec) 2 3:53 Blue Train Smart Card? Lowtec 10 Strikes to 2001 Crane A.K. Monostatic Forcetracks/Force Inc. FT15 copyright control (A.Nov DJ Knigge) Blue Train vs Dean De Costa Diminishing Returns(special edition dub) Mosiac Records 2000 MSCSPL03 copyright control (Steve O'Sullivan/Dean De Costa) 3 5:13 Crane A.K. Monostatic Blue Train vs Dean De Costa Diminishing Returns (special edition dub) Richie Hawtin Concept Loop u:1 Concept 1 1996 UTK Productions (SOCAN) (Richard Hawtin) Theorem vs Stewart Walker Recoil Minus:THX 2000 minus:thx3 Minus Inc. (SOCAN) (Dale Lawrence Stewart S. Walker) Jacek Sienkiewicz 1 Trapez Traum 2001 TRAPEZ04 copyright control (Jacek Sienkiewicz) 4 7:03 2 Dollar Egg Green Apple i220 Music i220 026 elp medien verlags GmbH (Erik Besier Gordon Heinicke) 2 Dollar Egg Stereo Virus i220 Music i220 026 elp medien verlags GmbH (Erik Besier Gordon Heinicke) Plastikman Spastik Plus 8/Novamute 1993 PLUS8028/NOMU28 Plastikprodukts (SOCAN)/Mute Song (Richard Hawtin) 5 7:55 Akufen Dada EP A2 Background Records BG017 copyright control (Akufen) 2 Dollar Egg Stereo Virus Decomposed Subsonic Talk to Me Ware Records 2000 WARE13 copyright control (Hartmut Wessling) 6 8:23 2 Dollar Egg Stereo Virus Decomposed Subsonic Talk to Me Blue Train vs Dean De Costa Diminishing Returns (special edition dub) 2 Dollar Egg Green Apple Jacek Sienkiewicz 4 Trapez Traum 2001 TRAPEZ04 copyright control (Jacek Sienkiewicz) Process Contain Trapez Traum 2001 TRAUM-V12 copyright control (Process) M-Core From Pioneer to Poet (softcore edit) Ifach Records 2000 IFACH21 copyright control (T. Melchior / F. Anderson) 7 9:49 Retrotronic Orph Punkt Music PUNKT002 edition mnp/Bmg-Ufa (Alex Krüger) Blue Train vs Dean De Costa Diminishing Returns (special edition dub) 8 12:36 Silent Treatment Silent Treatment Phono Elements PH001 ICM/Hanseatic, copyright control (Pascal F.E.O.S./Peter Dundov) Blue Train vs Dean De Costa Diminishing Returns (special edition dub) Richie Hawtin Freek Minus Inc. 2001 FK1 UTK Productions (SOCAN) (Richard Hawtin) Pantytec Into The Duster Perlon 1998 PERL07 copyright control (Sammy Dee / Zip) 9 13:55 Baby Ford Zip Vacuum Cleaner Perlon 1999 PERL15 copyright control (Baby Ford / Zip) Silent Treatment Silent Treatment Pantytec Into The Duster Richie Hawtin Freek 10 15:10 Soul Capsule Prod. Las Ramblas (Forever Love) Trelik Records TR13 copyright control (T. Melchior/P. Ford) Ricardo Villalobos Bredow Perlon 2001 PERL22 Warner/Chappell (Ricardo Villalobos) 11 16:09 Soul Capsule Las Ramblas (Forever Love) Cartridge Family Courtesy Car Subvert VERT04 copyright control FUSE Into The Space Plus 8 Records Ltd. 1993 PLUS8024 UTK Productions (SOCAN) (Richard Hawtin) Richie Hawtin 808 Loop 12 18:41 Cartridge Family Courtesy Car Sergej Auto Flibkà Top Saas Fee FEE007 Saas Fee (Sergej Auto) Soul Capsule Prod. Las Ramblas (Forever Love) Baby Ford Zip No Milk Today Perlon 2001 PERL23 copyright control (Baby Ford Zip) 13 21:00 Baby Ford Zip Steve Bug At The Front Poker Flat Recordings PFR09 Freibank (Steve Bug) 14 22:56 Baby Ford Zip Steve Bug David Wulle Untitled Docile DN003 copyright control (David Wulle) Mike Shannon Slacker Jack Cynosure CYN04 pole position music (Mike Shannon) Echoplex Divisible LL Records 2001 LL008 copyright control (Peter Sliwinski) Narcotic Syntax Muff Diver Perlon 2001 PERL23 copyright control (James Dean Brown Markus Nikolai) 15 25:38 Rino Cerrone B1 Rilis Records 2000 Rilis5 elp medien verlags GmbH (Rino Cerrone) Rino Cerrone Optical Way Relentless 2000 REL4 elp medien verlags GmbH (Rino Cerrone) Rino Cerrone A1 Rilis Records 2000 Rilis4 elp medien verlags GmbH (Rino Cerrone) Rino Cerrone A1 Rilis Records 2000 Rilis5 elp medien verlags GmbH (Rino Cerrone) 16 27:38 Rino Cerrone Optical Way Nick Rapaccioli Panna Vertical Form VFORM002 copyright control (Nick Rapaccioli) Rumenige B1 Integrale Muzique 2000 NUMB005 copyright control (Toky) Stewart Walker vs Theorem Too Distant Images Minus:THX 2000 minus:thx3 Minus Inc. (SOCAN) (S. Selden Walker D. Lawrence) Stewart Walker Clinicalism Cocoon Recordings 2001 CORLP002 copyright control (Stewart Selden Walker) 17 28:20 Ricardo Villalobos Luna (re-edit) Playhouse/Ongaku Musik 2000 PLAYHOUSE45 Warner Chappell (Ricardo Villalobos) Stewart Walker Clinicalism Ricardo Villalobos
RE: [313] DE9 closer id
one of the writers for my web site forwarded me a printout of an email from richie's publicist that breaks down which tracks on the cd come from which tracks in real life. for each cd track you get a list of 3,4,5 or 6 songs that contributed to it. it gives the full info on first reference, then just artist and title each time it repeats. not sure whether this info will be included in the liner notes. i will have her forward it to me and forward to the list. brian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] madonna
at least one of the slater remixes was available on a commercial cd single. i think it was british but could have been e.u. or japan. brian -Original Message- From: Jussi Lehtonen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 7:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] madonna On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if it was in this list or in techno.ca, but I remember a long discussion thread about 2 years ago, when Luke Slater remixed Madonna... back then a lot of people said Luke had sold out. it seems things are different today Yes, it was quite a debate. Those remixes never made it to the public, only a few promos are around, right? Luke Slater was most likely _asked_ to make them, or maybe he offered them to Maverick... I also remember a discussion about UR / Sony affair.. It's a bit of a different situation when a record ompany decides to release a cover version of your track without even asking your permission. J -- Jussi Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.netppl.fi/~sandman Do not allow yourself to be programmed. For once, in your life, take control. Take control. - UR - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] ambient techno
you can't go wrong with warp's plaid retrospective, trainer. chronicles the work of former black dog memebers ed handley and andy turner from the early to mid '90s. they later toured with bjork, produced nicolette and plus one and released a string of albums, including this year's double figure. brian -Original Message- From: Mike Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:17 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] ambient techno Hello, I have been getting into ambient techno and early 90's UK IDM lately. I am looking for more obscure material from that period and I was wondering what recommendations you guys would have. As far as that sound goes, here is what I have been listening to lately: Global Communication: 76:14 Aphex: SAW I II Biosphere: Microgravity ART records: ART 12 comps Atom Heart: Dots I am looking for more material like this, any recommendations would be very appreciated. Thanks, mt _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] ambient techno - slag boom van loon
As far as recent melodic/ambient IDM, I suggest the Slag Boom Van Loon eponymous album on Planet Mu. Really ace collaboration between Speedy J and Mu-Ziq. Review at http://www.armchair-dj.com/reviews/s/slag_boom_van_loon.asp. A so-so collection of remixes of this stuff came out this year under the title So Soon, but I recommend the original if you can find it. Brian -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:19 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] ambient techno Interestingly enough, longtime Rephlex artist Mike Paradinas (aka mu-ziq) is auctioning his ponytail on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1458443752 'idm ponytails are rare in the 2000s, since most were got rid of in the early 90s once the dream dissolved...' Brendan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] live sets (was new topic)
i have to say: 1) carl craig's innerzone live debut at st. andrews in 97 or 98 (can't remember which), when a room full of candy ravers (incl. myself at the time) kind of half-swayed, half-danced around for at least a half an hour wating for the beats to drop before splitting into two contingents, one of which stopped swaying but stayed around for the rest of the decidedly non-dancefloor set, the other of which promptly went looking for dj dan or whomever it was playing upstairs. 2) stewart walker, chicago, 2000. one set of stabiles material for the head. one set of live techno for the feet. 3) inner city live at DEMF 2001 - we need some / we need some / we need some luh-hove! paris still has it brian -Original Message- From: T Mind [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] new topic Thanks dan to your quick response. I would have to say: 1.Ur with 1992 /With Jeff 2.Model 500 1996 /Mike Banks,Keith Tucker and Tom Hammilton Aux 3.Robert Hood 4.Scan 7 5.Adult 6.Carl Craig 7.Inner City 8 Claude Young 9.Shake demf 2001 10.k-1 Optic Nerve FEEL FREE TO COMMENT From: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: T Mind [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] new topic Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:43:31 -0400 How about a top 5? Too hard to distinguish which sets I like better than others after that. 1. underground resistance w/jeff mills (1992) 2. aril brikha time:space 3. rob hood 4. moodymann (based on the short set he played at All Access this year) 5. inner city I missed the first Model 500 show in 1996 so I can't comment. The second one (what year was that again?) wasn't worth mentioning unfortunately. I believe Blake Baxter was the first Detroit artist to play live. London in 1988 to kick off the compilation on Virgin. Anyone on the list see that one? :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
um, no. i have no idea what sort of punk scene existed in detroit and whether it was american or british punk music being played, but lots of late '70s and early '80s punk and post-punk was influenced by dub - everything from bad brains in the states to the slits (whose cover of john holt's man next door, produced by adrian sherwood, came out in '80). brian dillard -Original Message- From: M. Todd Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 7:52 AM To: 313 List Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? Somebody wrote: ~~ Well, Back in the day Detroit had a largish punk scene. One of punks primary influences was Jamaican reggae dubb. Just had to bring it all back full circle. ~~ Do you have any evidence of this? Can you support this claim? Are you Iggy Pop? The only influence Dub and Reggae may have had on punk is the message they tried to get across. Ska was directly influenced by the rhythms and sounds of Dub and Reggae as is apparent in the music, however Ska-punk cross pollination really didn't happen until about '88 when Operation Ivy hit the scene. Unless you consider The Specials and The English Beat 'punk', I'd really like to know where you got this idea. Cheers todd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
c'mon, though. early prince -- after the first few albums, before purple rain -- was all about synths and minimal funk. the albums controversy, dirty mind and 1999 quite obviously share a kinship not only with the aesthetics of techno but with the means of production. i'm not saying he is techno or ever even made it, but in terms of four-track bedroom funk, the man is a pioneer. brian dillard -Original Message- From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:43 PM To: Ian; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? Not to mention at one of techno's peak development years (1989), Prince released the abominable Batman soundtrack. (shudder) -d At 8:41 PM -0400 8/21/01, Ian wrote: on 8/21/01 8:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well? I have heard of Prince referred to as Little Richard Hendryx, the black Bowie, and Repo-Elvis before, but I don't think he's the tap root of techno. A major feeder line maybe. Consider that Mojo played a lot of Prince to a Detroit radio audience that was especially appreciative. Prince proved the P-funk hypothesis. Some building block tracks might include Controversy and Erotic City, but there is that whole rock star thing that isn't quite in line with techno... You feelin' alright Mike? -- im - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Common Factor does Glasgow
what Detroit Technology mix? is this a cd? something online? details, please brian -Original Message- From: Jason Donnelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 8:14 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Common Factor does Glasgow hello all Common Factor will be playing at Alaska in Glasgow on Fri 7th Sept. (All fully confirmed etc..) New nite run by local boy Lawrence Hughes. If its anything like his Detroit Technology mix, should be a topper! jason - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Richie Hawtin - DE909
the boring thing about many of richie's sets in the last year or two isn't about what technology he's using, it's about dynamics. he just brings it up, then way down, then up, then down, with no middle ground. it's like being jack-hammered to death. which is why i love the new closer to the edit so much ... it stakes out a moodier, more mid-tempo terrain that uses dubby and tech-house textures rather than just all-banging, all-the-time techno. in short, at least on this cd, he's putting the funk back in it. and that's something i haven't heard in his sets too much in recent years (with the notable exception of the overpriced but fun new year's gig in detroit). brian -Original Message- From: Jayson B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 2:21 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Richie Hawtin - DE909 the reason his last tour was so boring was cuz he wanked the f*ck out of the 909. Agreed. I stopped going to see the Detroit Symphony Orchestra because I just go so sick of all those overused brass and woodwind instruments. You've seen one person play an oboe, you've seen them all. point VERY well taken. and i agree. this brings me to another thing i've been wondering about: why is the '303' sound supposedly overused, when the 909 is not? Why are people so concerned with making new sounds, yet the 909 is an exception? curious. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] plaid in sf
any word on whether squarepusher is a go tonight? brian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Fw: LOST: SUNDAY 26TH AUGUST LINE-UP DETAILS
what's the deal with lost? is it the last saturday of every month? i will be in london the last week in october and was hoping to go; last time i was in london mills was spinning at lost but it sold out before i could get tix. --brian dillard -Original Message- From: Tom Robbins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 6:22 AM To: 313 mailing list Subject: [313] Fw: LOST: SUNDAY 26TH AUGUST LINE-UP DETAILS LOST: SUNDAY 26TH AUGUST LINE-UP DETAILSLOST BANK HOLIDAY SUNDAY 26 AUGUST 2001 11pm - 7am MASS St Matthews Church Brixton Hill SW2 RED ROOM STEVE BICKNELL ROBERT HOOD (Detroit) DJ RUSH (Chicago) JOHN KENNEDY PURPLE ROOM KIM BILIR - DU-KRU (LIVE) SONAR FLY (LIVE) JOHN REYNOLDS MARIO TICKETS: £12.50 INFO RESERVATIONS 020 7791 0402 07956 497702 www.lost.co.uk http://www.lost.co.uk/ RED Robert Hood DJ Rush will join Steve Bicknell, offering a funk-fuelled feast of vibrant rhythms. Latterly of M Plant Music, formerly involved with Underground Resistance Axis Records, responsible for seminal techno classic Minimal Nation, Rob Hood played his first date in the U.K. for LOST at the Vox followed by their party produced for Axis. His sets hold magnificent memories with his history what more can we say? The towering figure of DJ Rush is back. After first playing in Europe at a LOST party after producing the Mindgames EP for the CLUBTRACKS division of COSMIC Records, he's now a worldwide player has been a regular guest ever since. John Kennedy completes the line up. PURPLE An alternative space encompassing a kaleidoscope of sound and featuring 2 live sets. Fresh from their last set at LOST, which met with much acclaim, the Du-Kru return. A group of afro-musicologists producing a live jazz-fusion set of their own material and improvisation. LOST also Introduce a diverse unit of independent minded talented individuals collectively known as Sonar Fly, lauded by all who hear their original sets - you'll be hearing more about them! Recent appearances at the Respect festival alongside Run DMC have added yet more interest. An associate member of the production team Kim Bilir will represent them with a dj set at this party and look out for the double pack, Feelin? On Clubtracks now! Hip-hop grooves and jazzy beats are supplied courtesy of John Reynolds and Mario. The COSMIC RECORDS tour (Steve Bicknell, Oliver Ho, Surgeon, Samuel L. Sessions Jay Denham) has just finished their extensive European leg of dates. The tour continues in Japan, Singapore and New Zealand in September with more dates to follow later in the year. info email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] LOSTMAIL titles from Lost Recordings, Cosmic, Clubtracks, I.D. La Mascarade/lostmusic, Axis many more - available via LOSTMAIL : further info tel:020 7791 0402 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - lost, p.o.box 3716, London e1 0rs Out soon Lost Recordings Why? For Whom? Redefined by Steve Bicknell, Surgeon and Fumiya Tanaka on Clubtracks Feelin? by Kim Bilir on I.D. Indigo EP by Karakter. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] planet e
granted, it's awful - one of the worst covers i've ever seen. but the music's so good, particularly the exclusive shake and random noise generation tracks, that WHO CARES?! i'm sure carl didn't have ANYTHING else on his mind while this cd was being created/manufactured - like, oh, festival contracts and firings and such. brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 4:14 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] planet e i have been obsessing over the cover of the planet e all access CD. why is it so BORING? why not some art or some information about the artists? this is not much of a anniversary celebration to me, it says nothing about detroit techno, it's history or longevity and the popularity of events such as the demf. don't planet e understand that minds enjoy stimulation, mystery, information? when i was 18 and got a copy of bitches brew (or when igot the early transmat planet e 12's for that matter) the cover art and the music showed me a world of music i didn't know about and it made me want to know more and be part of that. i can't imagine that happening here. you really want clean lines marketing so your product will sit nicely on the shelf next to a million other bland generic dance CDs, this is not something that will inspire much in anyone really. btw i already know i need to get a life p-dogg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] producer id...
i believe the lyric is break me off / show me what you got. i know it doesn't make much sense, but i've been listening to this album on headphones daily for a couple of months now and it's definitely a b sound. brian -Original Message- From: Jonny McIntosh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 6:32 AM To: diana potts; Gwendal Cobert; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] producer id... On the RB front (sorry to keep so OT a topic going), I'm sat listening to the Missy Elliot album. Does One Minute Man really include the line Wank me off, show me what you got/Because I don't want no one minute man or is it just me and my filthy mind? I can only offer KFC chips for this one, I'm afraid. Jonny. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] felix da housecat full-length albums
i'm trying to assemble as complete a collection of felix stallings albums (cd if possible) as i can. i have these: thee maddkatt courtship - alone in the dark thee maddkatt courtship - i know electrikboy felix da housecat - metropolis present day felix da housecat - presents kittinz and the glitz felix da housecat - clashback compilation mix felix da housecat - transmissions aphrohead - aphrohead does anyone know of any other full-lengths that i'm missing? compilations from his labels that feature a lot of his productions? i've seen a tracklisting of another aphrohead album called thee industry made me do it but i can't find it anywhere. does it really exist? label? year? spare copy for sale? also, are harrison crump and harry havana just aliases for felix, or are they actual separate people? i know tyrone palmer is an actual person, but i'm a little confused about the other two. a newfound fanatic, brian dillard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Bjork - The Hunter Remix
it's not funkstorung - they only remixed all is full of love. it's probably the skothus mix by icelandic group gusgus (or rather the two members who are djs and also record as t-world). it's an icy tech-house treatment ... about seven minutes long ... brilliant. go to www.bjork.com for a full discography to find the various formats on which it appeared. in a somewhat related vein, anyone else here a fan of carl craig's remix of gusgus's polyesterday? really amazing, either the commercial mix or the promo-only dub, imho brian dillard www.armchair-dj.com -Original Message- From: stuffed bird [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 6:16 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Bjork - The Hunter Remix Stuffed Bird's trivia continues...sorry for the waste of bandwidth! Been searching the world over for any info on a remix of Bjork's 'The Hunter' that Laurent Garnier played a lot in 1999/2000. I was once told that it was a remix by Funkstorung, which made sense because they have remixed more Bjork-tracks. The track itself is a 4/4 house/techno remix with the complete unchanged lyrics and a string arrangement that keeps surging up and down once started. Anybo Interested in Turkey? Visit http://www.turkey.com! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: [313] Derrick May Wildtime
Remix of Delite's Wild Times from about '89. Different group from Deee-Lite, the Groove is in the Heart house-pop group. A big anthem at the Hacienda in Manchester. Recently repressed on bootleg. Brian Dillard -Original Message- From: Williams, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:50 AM To: 313 (E-mail) Subject: [313] Derrick May Wildtime Sorry to bring this up again but i just saw this at Juno : MAY, Derrick: Wildtime (remixes) (unknown label US) does anyone have a touch more info they could share? thanks, H - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Richie in SF..
i doubt that. richie loves to record shop and claims he gets his best stuff at obscure stores, not mailed to him. brian -Original Message- From: joshtwentythree [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 10:17 AM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: Re: [313] Richie in SF.. I would bet he's not really buying any of them...i'm sure he just gets a lot of records from people... josh23 --- Bulger, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I caught Richie here in SF doing a DJ set over the weekend and he totally destroyed the place. Was among the best performances I've seen in a long time. He played very little of the DE9 style tribal techno, more of a tech-house + underground techno sound. Anyone have any idea what these records are and where he's buying them?!? :) Later, Tim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] jak
is there any reason to send out an email alert, put up online flyers, and hand out postcards to tens of thousands of people at the DEMF for a party where the capacity was all of 400? despite being in line by 10:30 p.m. and freezing our asses off, we still didn't get into jak by 1:30 a.m. and went home sorely disappointed. later we heard rich didn't even go on till 3 a.m. guess we should have showed up at around 7 a.m. after the line had died down - or did it, ever? - and caught the last couple of hours of the event. i'm used to a much more professionally run event from the m-nus/plus 8 crew. i've been to richie parties in detroit where the capacity was only 100 or 200 and there was always at least some staff member letting people know the situation as far as when doors would open, how many people would get in, etc. at jak, there was no communication between the people at the door and the crowd. only when a friend forced her way through the throngs and asked for more info did we learn there was basically no way we'd ever get in. next time, guys, how about a little communication and a little less hype? the people at the party had a fantastic time, i'm sure, but i know there were at least four times as many people who left the dismal parking lot thinking, damn, that richie hawtin sure has an ego. brian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: [313] fav 80s pop remixes
eddie fowlkes remixed the pet shop boys, as did terrence parker. eddie did i want a dog. terrence did i wouldn't normally do this kind of thing. both were ace. also, kevin saunderson remixed kym mazelle. wait, i think it was. tasty. brian brian j. dillard | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - reflect.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] armchairdj.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] plastikfan.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: M Elliot-Knight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 5:32 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] fav 80s pop remixes I ran across a thread from a discussion (while doing a search) about remixes and the Art of Noise. Mentioned in it was Kevin Saunderson's remix of Neneh Cherry's Buffalo Stance. Well, I was wondering what some of your favorite 80s-early 90s pop/dance remixes were done by Detroit artists? MEK _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] derrick may - wildtimes rmx
delite a different group from the pop-house trio deee-lite. --brian dillard -Original Message- From: .: Caltrop :. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 4:43 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] derrick may - wildtimes rmx who is the original artist of that remix? thanks _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] did richie's mom write this?
it was on his pr agent's website last summer; she pointed it out to me when i was setting up a phone interview. --brian -Original Message- From: darw_n [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 8:25 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] did richie's mom write this? It says it's richie's mom, but, I don't know, seems odd... darw_n... ... :i: explore. Subject: {pb-cle} a letter from richie's mom sorry if this has already been posted. http://www.louisville.edu/~lbrawl01/letter.htm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] bjork/plus8
graham massey didn't produce any bjork solo stuff till her second album, post. the first one was produced by nellee hooper of soul ii soul/sinead o'connor/madonna fame. bjork was definitely aware of plus 8 at the time; speedy j remixed her first single, human behaviour, off the same album as big time sensuality. brian brian j. dillard | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - reflect.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] armchairdj.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] plastikfan.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 5:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] bjork/plus8 Interesting ... never noticed the similarity given the different tempo and contrast. I don't think they're the exact same notes though. Can't remember if 808 State's Graham Massey produced that track or not ... there's an tangential Cubik Technarchy Big Time Sensuality loop there if he did. :) -d At 11:29 PM -0400 4/29/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does anyone know if the bass line in bjork's big time senuality(off debut) is taken from plus8's technarchy? or is it purely coincidence? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
paging paul from www.innercity.co.uk
Please get in touch re: the order I placed w/ you. Sorry for the waste of bandwidth. Brian brian j. dillard | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - reflect.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] armchairdj.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] plastikfan.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Ordering Records On-Line
i hate to recommend them b/c their site is kludgy and their service sucks, but http://www.htfr.co.uk/ sometimes gets some good stuff. they're a big shop in the uk who sell equipment and used records. they put their entire catalogue online, so if you've got something you're desperate for and check often you can sometimes find what you're after. i managed to get most of the early plus 8 and probe catalogues that i was missing there over the course of a few months last year, although for some records i paid a premium. their online customer service is non-existent - you're lucky to get a confirm email - but they do occasionally get some great stuff in. i JUST missed getting a copy of UR's revolution for change LP a few months ago; somebody beat me to the punch. brian -Original Message- From: Jonny McIntosh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 6:28 AM To: Jonny McIntosh; nathan goode; 313 Subject: Re: [313] Ordering Records On-Line Actually, I messed up the URLs quite a bit there, so the following are the corrections: www.formic.de www.juno.co.uk www.danceclassics.co.uk - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Billy Nasty - Help w/Interview?
zoom is probably correct, given that he remixed uk avant-pop group saint etienne's 1992 track join our club into the chemically friendly zoom mix. ask him about _that_ connection if you think of it. brian -Original Message- From: Perry, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 11:05 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Billy Nasty - Help w/Interview? I beilieve Billy Nasty was involved in the Zoom label releases. And not sure, but maybe Shi-Take material as well. Good stuff! Geoffrey Richards 04/10/01 02:00pm Erin, I am curious if he produces music. Also, what is his tie with tortured records--i was led to believe he is involved somehow when i bought a umek douple on that label that mentioned billy nasty had a mix cd with tortured material on it. -rorschach ps i got a chance to see him play in manchester, uk in ~oct, 1997, at some small club--but most people were at some huge fantasia cheese-core party the same night. tell him some stranger enjoyed his set. From: Erin Swenson-Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Billy Nasty - Help w/Interview? Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:23:24 -0700 I am going to partake in an interview with Billy Nasty this weekend, but, I don't know much about him aside from the fact that he spins a lot of drumcode records. Would anyone here on this list (I realize that he's not exactly a detroit-native, heh) like me to ask him some questions for them, as I will post the whole interview sometime next week. Any help would be appreciated! Erin Swenson-Healey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Landcruising
i had it special-ordered at gramophone in chicago about a year and a half ago. having been a major-label release w/ disappointing sales, plenty of distributors still have it. i've seen it many times at tower in san francisco and chicago - usu. in electronica or imports. you could also try gemm.com, a huge database of used- and new-record stores. brian dillard brian j. dillard | [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reflect.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.armchair-dj.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Synthetic Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:05 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Landcruising anyone know where i can find or order Carl Craig's Landcruising on CD? is it even available? thanks tom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Winter Music Conference Miami
some friends of mine are throwing the second-annual detroit meets miami party. DJ Lineup: Juan Atkins (Metroplex , Tresor) Terrence Parker (Intangible Soundworks) Alton Miller (Distance, Trackmode) DJ T-1000 (Pure Sonik Records) Mike Clark (Planet E Records) Stryke (Guidance , Sunrise, Platform,Signal Communications) Norm Talley (Trackmode , Beatdown Sounds) Dwayne Jensen (KMS , Beatdown Sounds) Kimyon (Centro-Fly Resident ,TruSkul , Foundation) DJ Nova (Marlin Hotel , Miami ) DJ CRS (Miami) DJ CUE (Miami) DJ Nemo (Peoples Lounge) PLUS SPECIAL SURPRISE GUESTS! http://www.signalcommunications.net/miamimeetsdetroit.htm --Brian brian j. dillard | [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reflect.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.armchair-dj.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:49 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Winter Music Conference Miami There was a mail a couple days ago asking who on this list was attending. Stupidly, I deleted and forgot who sent it. Well, I'm going from Sunday through to Wednesday. Looking forward to some sun to warm these NY bones. Does anyone what type of 313 action might be had down there? Recommendations/ideas really appreciated Paul _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by UUNET delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit http://www.uk.uu.net/products/security/virus/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
question re: claude young - patterns the album
anybody know what the relationship is between claude young's pattern buffer records and patterns the album? is the album a collection of the earlier 12-inch tracks or something altogether different? brian brian j. dillard | [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reflect.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.armchair-dj.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
question re: mark bell
anyone know whether the mark bell who recorded as planet e's clark (n.b. jack to basics on the new geology vol. 2 comp) is the same guy who was in LFO and produced the last couple Bjork records? Brian brian j. dillard | [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reflect.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.armchair-dj.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] deep dish
i heard them at 1015 folsom in sf a few months ago (i was there to hear carl craig spin in the upstairs lounge; he played track three off the new photek album, glamourama, and made my night) and i wasn't that impressed. i dug their junk science album and have liked some of their other productions, but their set at 1015 seemed big, empty and boring. then again, maybe it was just the venue. brian dillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:55 PM To: Dharma Fowler; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] deep dish You should check the Junk Science album. Should be easy to find. I'm iffy on about half of the vocal tracks on there, but they offer dubs of some of those too, which are much better IMO. I hear they've gone a bit progressive as of late, although I haven't seen as much personally. The biggest tragedy of living near DC is that they almost never play here. For a long time, they made some of the deepest house music you could find, although their output has been reduced almost exclusively to remixes over the last few years from what I can tell. Tristan -- Eleven mixes, one album, various tracks, pics and info here: http://phonopsia.tripod.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] FrogboyMCI on AOL IM Deserve's Got Nothing to Do With it. -Clint Eastwood, Unforgiven -Original Message- From: Dharma Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 4:26 PM Subject: [313] deep dish what can anybody out there tell me about deep dish. a bunch of friends have convinced me to go to motor this friday to see them, and i've heard of them, but know nothing about them. dharma _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Blue Monday
and on the limited-pressing British two-CD version of the remix comp (The Rest of) New Order; Disc I contained the album; disc II contained numerous additional remixes of Blue Monday, incl. the Hawtin one. not sure if this was released on vinyl. Brian Dillard -Original Message- From: Conway, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 3:23 PM To: 'Mark Hughes'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Blue Monday there's a richie hawtin mix of this too - on the 'from manchester with love' comp. cheers sc -Original Message- From: Mark Hughes [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 18 January 2001 23:33 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Blue Monday Yeah you are right it is an absolute classic - in fact even so much so that it was the biggest selling 12 single of all time! Nice one to the lads from Manchester! Also a favourite of Carl Craig - he dropped it last record at the Electric Chair-Oxford Road-Manchester a couple of months ago. Lovely! :) To get the orginal on Factory you have to dig deep in second hand shops. I will keep am eye out for you. Mark Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) ** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] +8 Website
I interviewed Richie Hawtin a couple of weeks ago and he said they're hoping to have it up by the September release of the first Plus 8 Classics CD and the Sept. 3 party they're throwing in Detroit. More info about the Plus 8 relaunch, the future of Plastikman and other Hawtin-related projects at: http://www.armchair-dj.com/handler.asp?/features/interviews/richie_hawtin.as p Brian Dillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: The Deliverator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 12:44 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] +8 Website Greetings All, I believe the creator of the +8 website resides on the list here soWhen it it opening? It's been *really soon* since demf. I'm not trying to be pushy, i'm just excited to see it. (almost)related: I recently picked up Theorem's 'nano' release. Phenomenal disc, very deep. Buy it if you see it. jim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Booking
I just posted a lengthy interview with Stewart Walker to my Web site, Armchair-DJ, which covers both electronic and pop music from a decidedly non-purist, home-listening point of view. Enjoy. Brian --- Brian J. Dillard | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Armchair DJ | http://armchair-dj.com techno without turntables. modern pop. This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this information may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. Please notify the sender, by electronic mail or telephone, of any unintended recipients and delete the original message without making any copies.
RE: (313) Fwd:(313) artifacts
are you talking the cd or the vinyl? not sure about the vinyl but afrika (test kut) is _not_ on the cd. hypokondriak was released as a 12-inch w/ afrika as the b-side. the cd album artifakts(b.c.) has these tracks: korridor psyk pakard hypokondriak rekall skizofrenik are friends elecktrk? lodgiikal nonsense the japanese version also has a track called psykik that is well worth seeking out. it also appeared on a sony japan comp (i forget the name). brian -Original Message- From: Rich Neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 1:59 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Fwd:(313) artifacts Hypochondriak and Afrika are on it Rich. On Thu, 13 Apr 2000 17:31:17 BST martin clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can some one give me the track listing for plastikman's artifacts lp please is 'Afrika' on it? martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Free Email, Anime News, and The Best Prices at http://AnimeNation.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this information may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. Please notify the sender, by electronic mail or telephone, of any unintended recipients and delete the original message without making any copies.
RE: (313) Columbia House
On the topic of Columbia House: at the Rotterdam Film Festival two months ago, I saw the movie/documentary The Target Shoots First. It's The Target Shoots First premiered last summer at the Chicago Underground Film Festival. It rocked. Chris Wilcha was the guy who made it. A journalist friend of mind did a feature on him for the Associated Press after seeing the film. Apparently he went back and worked at Columbia House _again_ after the film was completed - AND continued filming his exploits. He's quit again now, though. Brian --- Brian J. Dillard | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Armchair DJ | http://armchair-dj.com techno - pop. no boundaries. This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this information may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. Please notify the sender, by electronic mail or telephone, of any unintended recipients and delete the original message without making any copies.
juan atkins + tresor release dates
can anybody confirm the release dates for the following juan atkins cds? i'm especially wondering whether the cd release date for jazz is the teacher was different from the vinyl release date. i'm a little confused overall about the release dates and countries of origin for a lot of those early tresor CDs. a lot of them came out in the usa on labels like pow wow trance, but some of them, like this 3mb one, don't appear to have ever gotten an american release. can anyone shed light on the subject of the history of tresor's american distribution, both cd and vinyl, as well as the specific dates for these cds? and why _now_ are apparently imported tresor cds (and chain reaction for that matter) almost as cheap as a domestic cd in america? or aren't they really imports at all? and why do so many dance labels eschew putting dates on sleeves? the cds in question: 3mb/jazz is the teacher model 500/sonic sunset model 500/classics infinit/the infiniti collectioin many thanks! brian This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this information may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. Please notify the sender, by electronic mail or telephone, of any unintended recipients and delete the original message without making any copies.
(313) san fran/san diego record stores
i'm going for a short vacation to california anyone have any advice for record stores to hit in san fran or san diego? in san fran i'll be staying in knob hill in san diego, i'll be in hillcrest, i think brian --- Brian J. Dillard | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Armchair DJ | http://armchair-dj.com techno - pop. no boundaries. This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this information may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. Please notify the sender, by electronic mail or telephone, of any unintended recipients and delete the original message without making any copies.
(313) unpopular science
i just (belatedly) picked up this kooky scientist LP on telepathic/plus 8 from '97 i believe. it's fucking amazing! really funky, twisted dancefloor stuff with the odd experimental bit and an overall sort of tech-housey feel. i can't stop playing it, loud, even when i'm getting ready for work in the morning and my flat-mate's asleep. i know fred giannelli occasionally posts to this list. could he or anyone else fill me in on what he's been up to since plus 8 went on hiatus? brian --- Brian J. Dillard | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Armchair DJ | http://armchair-dj.com techno - pop. no boundaries. This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this information may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. Please notify the sender, by electronic mail or telephone, of any unintended recipients and delete the original message without making any copies.
RE: (313) cool stuff in san fran
ditto march 24/25 in san fran -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 8:36 PM To: joe; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) cool stuff in san fran If anyone has any similar recommendations for May 18 - 21 in Frisco and the surrounding area, please let me know. Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102/index.htm FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger New mix, Propper Techno online now. New Album, The Quebequois, soon to come. -Original Message- From: joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 4:20 PM Subject: (313) cool stuff in san fran Hello everyone... I'll be in san francisco from Mar. 27 to april 1 (mon-sat) and I'm wondering if anyone can give me some tips on cool 313/techno/jazz/other good music/spoken word events I should check out. Any other must sees (ya know, tourist crap) would also be appreciated. Oh yeah, and record shops too, that'd be helpful. You should respond in private unless you think others would be interested blah blah blah... Any info is appreciated. Thanks, _joe __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this information may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. Please notify the sender, by electronic mail or telephone, of any unintended recipients and delete the original message without making any copies.
RE: (313) let there be house (again)
i was the first person who responded to you, and i will repeat my response: there are multiple versions of the track can you feel it the speech is from the a cappella version of the track. it's kind of weird to call it an a cappella version of the track because it actually has nothing in common with the instrumental version of the track; it's actually more like the b-side of the instrumental can you feel it. as was stated by someone else on the list, the unmixed vinyl of john acquaviva's skills on k7 has the speech. the track originally came out around 87 and was probably on trax. brian --- Brian J. Dillard | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Armchair DJ | http://armchair-dj.com techno - pop. no boundaries. -Original Message- From: Matthew L. Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 3:56 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) let there be house (again) Well I appreciate the answers I got, but I think everyone misunderstood the question I was asking. It's not the origin of the Can U Feel It sample that I'm interested in... rather, I'm interested in the origin of the speech that goes something like, In the beginning there was Jack... and Jack had a groove... you know the one, it sounds like a black preacher in church on Sunday. Again, I'll say that I was told by someone that it appears on Can U Feel It by Mr. Fingers, but the one version I've heard doesn't contain this (apparently it seems to be an instrumental). So, when did this speech first surface and what was it on? Thanks again, Matt E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://magicmattkelly.tripod.com This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this information may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. Please notify the sender, by electronic mail or telephone, of any unintended recipients and delete the original message without making any copies.
RE: (313) let there be house!
um, isn't it can you feel it rather than can you party? john acquaviva used it to start his (relatively) recent skills mix cd b. --- Brian J. Dillard | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Armchair DJ | http://armchair-dj.com techno - pop. no boundaries. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 3:12 PM To: The Deliverator Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) let there be house! the subject line is a quote from the vocal version of fingers inc's (larry heard) classic track can you party released on chicago's trax records. i'd give you cat # and year released, but the record is not handy as i type this. hope this helps. andrew duke :) The Deliverator wrote: greetings all, this was quoted in TP's response the other day. I have heard this track so many times over the years, but have never known who performed it. Is it still available? If not, anyone wanna sell their copy? (yah, right.) thanks jim p.s.: beware, there is what i believe to be an unlicensed trancey version of pullover floating around, under a project name of hypertrophy. I do not want to start a panic, but at the same time I don't want to see original artists getting ripped off either. I have already informed those that released the track way back when, so please let's not mass email them :-). -- Cognition/Andrew Duke's In The Mix mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://techno.ca/cognition 1096 Queen St #123 Halifax NS Canada B3H 2R9 This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this information may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. Please notify the sender, by electronic mail or telephone, of any unintended recipients and delete the original message without making any copies.
FW: (313) let there be house!
the confusion might be because the vocal and the instrumental are actually two completely different tracks. the comp probably had the instrumental version, a deep house classic in its own right. -Original Message- From: Matthew L. Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 3:26 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) let there be house! I've been wondering about the origin of this myself. I've heard several people say that it comes from Can You Feel It by Mr. Fingers, but a friend of mine has it on the Chicago Trax CD compilation and he swears up and down that it isn't on there. Was there another version that appeared on the original vinyl? Matt E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://magicmattkelly.tripod.com - Original Message - From: Brian Dillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 4:15 PM Subject: RE: (313) let there be house! um, isn't it can you feel it rather than can you party? john acquaviva used it to start his (relatively) recent skills mix cd b. This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this information may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. Please notify the sender, by electronic mail or telephone, of any unintended recipients and delete the original message without making any copies.
RE: (313) hawtin remixes
Or perhaps it was the truly awful south of detroit mix of the shamen's ebeneezer goode? -Original Message- From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 7:23 PM To: Matt Holland Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) What's the deal with... In Iowa City Saturday, Richie mentioned that he had done one remix that he was particularly unhappy with, for an artist he declined to name. Maybe this was the one ;-) kent williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this information may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. Please notify the sender, by electronic mail or telephone, of any unintended recipients and delete the original message without making any copies.
RE: (313) hawtin remixes
and let's not forget his blistering acid-house remix of whitney houston's i wanna dance with somebody it was on the same remix compilation as rob hood's minimal nation-style re-rub of huey lewis and the news's i want a new drug. b. Brian Dillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.plastikfan.org -Original Message- From: sean deason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 11:45 AM To: Brian Dillard Cc: Kent williams; Matt Holland; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) hawtin remixes Hey! Now that I think about it: wasnt there also a Plastikman remix of a White Zombie track!? This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this information may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. Please notify the sender, by electronic mail or telephone, of any unintended recipients and delete the original message without making any copies.
RE: (313) john Beltran
could anybody give this beltran novice a bit of a career overview or perhaps point me to some decent interviews or a discog online? i dig the new indio album. brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 7:30 AM To: enrico crivellaro Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) john Beltran Enrico: Beltran is one/third of the band Indio, who released a full length (CD-only) on Transmat in late 1999. It's selftitled. You can hear tracks from it in various archived Andrew Duke's In The Mix shows (all have complete tracklistings; air in RA and for WMP) on Cognition: http://techno.ca/cognition hope this helps. andrew duke :) This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this information may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. Please notify the sender, by electronic mail or telephone, of any unintended recipients and delete the original message without making any copies.
RE: (313) OT: chicks on speed
did anyone ever respond to this question about the dj hell track featuring chicks on speed? also, i have the CD of munich machine and this is for you is the only track on there w/ chicks on speed featured. are there more tracks on the double pack vinyl? brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 12:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) OT: chicks on speed hey. chicks on speed would definately be worth seeing at the what is music festival in melbI've heard great reviews of their live sets. You might wanna check out their track on the Voices in My Lunchbox vol 2 compilation on plug research for a bit o' beat boxin flava ;), also (as Cyclone mentioned) great contributions on Hell's Munich Machine double pack, particulary 'this is for you'... there's also another 'tech-housey' track that features the chicks on speed voice, that I think came out recently, kinda in the same vein as this is for you - does anyone have any idea what that track is? space.case.nonchalance. 3jane Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this information may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. Please notify the sender, by electronic mail or telephone, of any unintended recipients and delete the original message without making any copies.
RE: (313) What's the deal with...
sure it does. i know it just re-appeared on their remix comp, but it's actually from an early '90s maxi-single that contained not one but three hawtin mixes, all very circuit-breaker hard-techno sounding. the cd single is still widely available. not richie's best moment, but an interesting one. brian --- Brian J. Dillard | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Armchair DJ | http://armchair-dj.com techno - pop. no boundaries. -Original Message- From: Matt Holland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 5:24 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) What's the deal with... ...this Lords of Acid/Richie Hawtin remix? It doesn't sound like a R.H. doing... sorry if I'm reviving an old thread, I just resubbed... -matt This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this information may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. Please notify the sender, by electronic mail or telephone, of any unintended recipients and delete the original message without making any copies.
FW: (313) Essential Juan Atkins
On a trip to London a few weeks ago I picked up a Cybotron CD called Interface: The Roots of Techno. Don't have it in front of me so don't have the label - something obscure and Eurpean, I think. Tracklisting as follows: Clear Eden Enter Techno City Cosmic Cars Alleys of Your Mind Megiddo R-9 Cosmic Raindance El Salvador Cosmic Cars (House Mix) Vision Eden (12 Instrumental) Having to come up w/ that track list from my office reminded me to pass on the existence of a cool resource, for CD-buyers at least, at www.cddb.com. It's a database of track listings for CDs, entirely user-entered so if you go to find something and it's not there you can add it to the DB yourself. Really helps when you want to look up the trackslisting of something to see whether you already have a track but your CD collection is inaccessible. Also really nice to find out about CDs you haven't heard of by artists you're interested in. --Brian --- Brian Dillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Armchair DJ http://armchair-dj.com techno without turntables. modern pop. -Original Message- From: SqrRt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 1:17 PM To: 313 Mailing List Subject: RE: (313) Essential Juan Atkins This reminds me, there are Cybotron tracks that are not on this CD, right? Like Techno City and others I assume. Where does one find these tunes? Any represses, or do I have to hunt for used vinyl? SqrRt This electronic mail message and any attached files contain information intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any viewing, copying, disclosure or distribution of this information may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. Please notify the sender, by electronic mail or telephone, of any unintended recipients and delete the original message without making any copies.