Patterns of Change
Hi, anybody know who is behind these releases? I've got no.2 and it's got a nice deep driving feel to it, though if I'm not mistaken, there's a wholesale Aril Brikha sample on one of the tracks. I want to get no.1 too which sounded really good, and no.3 has just come out also (apparently getting a lot of support from Mr May according to Hedonizm records mailing list!) cheers, Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler
Sorry, more IDs
This reminds me, there's a track I've been looking to ID now for at least 5 years. I heard it on a mixtape by John Kennedy, and he mixes out of a Kenny Larkin track from the Metaphor album and into this lovely mellow techy tune that uses the same tones as those famous notes from Close Encounters. It has vague echoey voices in the background, it's mixed at about 135bpm, but the main thing is the slow chimes ala CEOTTK. Any clues? I see theres a part two of Mills' Metropolis on vinyl now. He's getting fond of his parts! cheers, Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler
RE: [313] Blue Monday
Or the Movement album - classic, even if they don't like it now themselves! And we talked about it a while back, but Everything's Gone Green is a must have too, if you're into their early sound. cheers, Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 4:34 AM To: 313 Subject: Re: [313] Blue Monday Whatever you do, don't get this on 12. Get Power, Corruption Lies or Substance and play some of their other songs. Blue Monday is played out. I play New Order about every other time I've spun for the last year or two (since I started searching it out on vinyl), and I haven't played Blue Monday since the early '90s. It was played out back then! Bring it on! Don't get me started on New Order... Tristan -- Eleven mixes, one album, various tracks, pics and info here: http://phonopsia.tripod.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] FrogboyMCI on AOL IM Deserve's Got Nothing to Do With it. -Clint Eastwood, Unforgiven -Original Message- From: Jonny McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gary Girard [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, January 18, 2001 6:45 AM Subject: Re: [313] Blue Monday Should be fairly easy. There's a reissue of it by Base, the Italian label who reissued a lot of the ESP back catalogue as well as Factory's. Try www.gemm.com for it, there's tons to be found there. How easy / difficult is it to get hold of this track then?? I would love to own it, it's an absolute classic! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] blake baxter
No one's mentioned Sexual Deviant - am I the only one who was really into this? (not deviancy itself though! ;-) Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 2:01 PM Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] blake baxter I hope it won't be a rerelease such as his current DreamSequence album, that looked more like a make money fast thing. [EMAIL PROTECTED] My all time favorite Blake baxter tracks are When we used to play (or is it titled In the garden?)and Horny. another great track is his Crimes of passion an early techno/jazz fusion that many have ignored. Blake tells me that there will be a retrospective of his work released later this year. lets keep our fingers crossed. -a fan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Traffic (off topic bandwith)
Well I know nothing about the film, but the website is very cool and enigmatic: http://www.trafficthemovie.com A very techno web-site, just to keep it somehow on topic! (nice little loops not a million miles from some Transmat material) Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler -Original Message- From: diana potts [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 2:23 PM To: enlighten Subject: Re: [313] Traffic (off topic bandwith) okay, so perhaps the only that understood me on that was myself. I'll give Jochem two bonus points for humor. To be more clear and to go into depth a bit... I thought the casting for this movie was well done. Though it was bumper to bumper celebrities, IMO they were each placed in roles that suited and challenged them. I thought the overall message that i got from the movie was something that I really grabbed onto, as its been a personal view of mine for a long, long time. BUT I don't want to give much of the movie away or give pre stated, concrete views into the topic or movie's message and ruin it for other people. And yes, that is still vague- but I think the less you know about this movie and the more you form your own thoughts about it, the more impact it will have. So, on that note- all i can say is I highly suggest Traffic as it has to do with a topic that has been discussed a little bit on this list and much with in the subculture we all exist in. Sorry if that all seems pointless, I think once you see the movie you'll understand. ok...that's enough off topic. sorry. d
RE: [313] Black Flag 2
Generally The End in London is my regular clubbing haunt. It has one of the best sound systems of any club going, and hearing The Stand... it really cut through and blew away most other tracks. It has such an energy level when the volume is backing it up. But if it puts you in mind of progressive uk stuff... well I can see how you'd feel, association with things that you don't like (through the simple bassline for example) can put you off stuff that is otherwise classier. Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler -Original Message- From: Elliot Taub [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 10:57 PM Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Black Flag 2 Hey, call me crazy, but I like this record. I don't know if you guys ever play on a big soundsystem, in a large club, but this record works real well in that situation. Its a single -- its the big club hit. I'd rather play a big club hit by Stacey Pullen than, say, Daft Punk any day of the week. Besides, its much in the vein of the prior Black Flag release. Obviously he's going for a theme here. lo sens wrote: To compare the EP with really bad cheesy UK house is overstating it's ordinariness, I agree. And I agree with you about his DJing: he's taken a route I could never have imagined after listening to his DJ Kicks mix, which ranks as one of my favourites. I've only heard him play once, last year (1999), and he was a real letdown (lots of Basement Jaxx, Yoshitoshi type tracks, which I guess the new Black Flag fits in with). Did he ever play out the same sort of stuff that he plays on the DJ Kicks cd? Cheers sens --- Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I passed on the 12. I hope the album isn't more of the same, although from Cyclone's reviews it sounds like it's better than that. I wouldn't really rank it among the worst of UK cheeze though. I think he always manages to incorporate something valuable even if it ends up a bit flat, or standard. On that note, I really like his Polyphonic Destruction on The End. It's not that new anymore, but it's recent enough that I still have hope for the album. I just question why he's gone the route he's chosen. Both his DJing and the consistency of his musical output are suffering since he's attained status. All IMHO of course. Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger Feeling Like A Kid Again... My Eyes Are Glued to the Floor. I Hope I Mumble Goodbye As You Walk Out the Door. UhOhUhohh... UhOhUhohhh... UhOhUhohhh... The Damage is Done. - Yo La Tengo -Original Message- From: lo sens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Sunday, December 31, 2000 1:07 AM Subject: [313] Black Flag 2 As a side note to the detroit house/techno discussion, and at the risk of upsetting a few listmembers, does anyone else think the new Stacey Pullen on his Black Flag label is a major disappointment? This is a man who was once responsible for some of the best Detroit techno (Eye to Eye, The Death March) who now puts out an EP to compete with the worst cheesy British house. I know some of you really dig it, but I'm definitely not alone in my city in thinking it's a real dud. Opinions? And to balance my dissing of a Detroit native, the Recloose remix of his own Can't Take It is up their with my year's favourites. (The Herbert mix is also absolutely brilliant; and the Carl Craig mix pretty damn good too). Cheers sens = Stop, Dave. I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going. There is no question about it. I can feel it. : HAL 9000 _ __ __ http://au.classifieds.yahoo.com/au/car/ - Yahoo! Cars - Buy, sell or finance a car.. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com . _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com . __ ___ http://au.classifieds.yahoo.com/au/car/ - Yahoo! Cars - Buy, sell or finance a car.. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail:
RE: techno covers
Talking of covers, at the weekend I caught Envoy live. It was ok, but I wasn't too sure about the use of Lil Louis' speech from Blackout, or DJ Rush's lyrics from Spitball (Hope is the name of the singer isn't it?). It was sort of funny, but then I got to thinking about techno karaoke! Rolando also dj'd, but I have to say he was a bit boring (shocking I know!). I was hoping he'd mix up a few different styles some more. Maybe he didn't think the crowd would respond?... Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler -Original Message- From: Hugh G. Blaze [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 December 2000 00:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] True People: Detroit Techno Comp, Pacou, Rob Hood also, i saw pacou, who was surprisngly very dissapointing. He is definitely a much better producer than dj. Rob Hood, however, was incredible. His dj set was phenominal and his live set was even better; his flawless live performance and the live female vocals were definitely the highlight of the night. I'm not sure how I feel about Rob hood's live set. I'm a longtime fan of his music, but that set left me with mixed feelings. In some ways, it was interesting to hear his take on some classic tracks. In another, I really wonder what the state of the art is when techno producers start doing sets of mostly covers. I thought covers were relegated to the classic rock set. What's next - a retro nostalgia phase of techno? A lot of people I know were really dissapointed. Which is certainly not to say you should have been, too. But it's a little distrubing when an aesthetic that prides itself on innovation starts reproducing earlier works verbatim, without really trying to make them into something new. __ ___ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Black Odyssey - The Stand
... is finally here. Come on Mr postman, bring me that baby! Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler
Who is the remixer?
Anyone know who is behind the (very faithful sounding) house remix of Talking Heads Once in a lifetime? From what I heard of it, it's so similar to the original, but just sped up with a more pronounced bass drum. While I'm here - what about the Convextion album we were promised?!! cheers. Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler
RE: [313] Who is the remixer?
Excellent - the tracks on this sampler sound like this is one to snap up when it surfaces! cheers, Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler -Original Message- From: tristan watkins [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 December 2000 15:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Who is the remixer? I just saw on the Tektie site http://www.isolateral.com that Convextion album is due out in Spring 2001. Tristan --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know who is behind the (very faithful sounding) house remix of Talking Heads Once in a lifetime? From what I heard of it, it's so similar to the original, but just sped up with a more pronounced bass drum. While I'm here - what about the Convextion album we were promised?!! cheers. Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Terrence Dixon
Oh yes - Population One Earth 2976 on Metroplex is great - deep, abstract, a little bit spooky. I must admit to being disappointed when I bought his Unknown Black Shapes on Utensil after hearing this. A case of minimal being just plain boring I thought! Dan -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 November 2000 11:32 To: 'Nick Craddock' Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: [313] Terrence Dixon Th Tresor album is nice indeed but his finest moments are released on Metroplex, if i remember correctly they are named Earth II and Population but i'm not shure. I'll have to check this when i'm home... Similarly to you, I only recently got around to buying Terrence's last Tresor album, and am now wondering why I missed it first time round as it's very good indeed. Terrence has just released a new 12 called 'Minimalism Part 2', again on the Background label. I've reviewed it for the new issue of Overload Magazine (out now) and gave it recommended release status. You can read the review online at our web-site, which incidentally has just had an overhaul and is much more user-friendly. http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk (yeah yeah, so it's a plug - but tell me if I'm lyin'!) There's also a profile of the excellent Background label on there... Regards, NC __ ___ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] musical question ... minimal classical
I remember that quote of May's, about music should be as good without drums as it is with - i.e. it should be able to stand on it's own without the rhythm section. Which is funny considering his pseudonym don't you think, and how many of his tracks are rhythm based? Also, what about the lp he was going to be producing of drummers (were they African?)... whatever has happened to that? And please tell me, is it any day now until the new Black Flag? (massive!) cheers, Dan (trying to keep as on topic as possible!) http://www,geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler -Original Message- From: Jonny McIntosh [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 November 2000 11:44 To: 313 Subject: Re: [313] musical question ... minimal classical As well as those already mentioned I'd suggest Varese, he basically wanted new instruments, so was very interested in electronics, and at times his earlier stuff is a precursor to Sun Ra's 60s output (I hate that kind of classical composer X did it before jazz fella Y argument too - that's not what I'm trying to say, just stick Heliocentric Worlds 2 on after Varese and see what I mean) Try for starters his Offrandes, Integrales and Octandre stuff. I don't know about on CD (I don't have one) but there's an LP on Nonesuch which contains some (if not all, I don't have it to hand) of the above works. Also look out for Desertes - the first stereo broadcast over French airways - and Poeme Electronique, his most well known work. Other folk such as Stockhausen (try for Mixtur, Mikrophonie I II, Kontakte, Momente Originale) Reich (Sonatas and Interludes just begs to be sampled) have already been mentioned. As for first entry into the realm of 20th century Classical, go for the likes of Satie and Debussy (starting with their piano music) - especially the latter, who, if I may be so bold as to say so, is the father of 20th century music, full stop. It's worth picking up different recordings of the same pieces, there can be a massive (and interesting) difference of interpretation. So's to keep the purists happy: I mentioned Sun Ra who worked with Francisco Mora who worked with CARL CRAIG. I also said the word electronics. ;) Jonny. NP: Arthur Russell World Of Echo - seems appropriate to the matter in hand. (Who wanted to make music without drums, which is what DERRICK MAY said he does first when making music.) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ibex and ID
Got to say I'm highly impressed with the new Planet E, Tony Olivierra under the name Ibex. The a side, Oasis, is deep, perfectly orchestrated strings and distant blended vox - don't miss! Thomas Schumacher's new album, Electric Avenue, is also really cool. So many different styles. Ok some of them not to everyone's (or my own) taste, but it's not often you hear this much variety on a techno album. I like! Lastly, can anyone ID this track from a DJ Hell set - vocal says north side boom, south side boom, east side boom, west side boom (no laughing there Anya!!) cheers, Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html (finally updated RA files) http://www.mp3.com/DanButler
I Feel Love Cowley Megamix
At last! For those unwilling to shell out on a copy of the original Cowley Megamix (or more likely for those unable to find it), this amazing track is part of the new DJ Hell Fuse mix (see below). Can anyone confirm though - is this the full version? -- 2xLP DONNA SUMMER-I Feel Love (Patrick Cowley megamix) 69-Desire CHE-The Incident (Wet Dream mix) PHUTURE-Rise From Your Grave LIAISONS DANGEREUSES-Aavant-Apres Mars FRANKIE GOES TO HOLLYWOOD-Two Tribes (Annihilation mix) MAURIZIO-M5 THE FLYING LIZARDS-Steam Away DOPPLEREREFFEKT-Rocket Scientist SPEEDY J-Evolution CD SPEEDY J-Evolution MAURIZIO-M5 RYDIMS-Version CHE-The Incident (Wet Dream mix) ORANGE LEMON-The Texican (extended club mix) LIAISONS DANGEREUSES-Aavant-Apres Mars TUXEDOMOON-What Use 69-Desire MITSU-Shylight DONNA SUMMER-I Feel Love (Patrick Cowley megamix) SPARKS-Beat The Clock PHUTURE-Rise From Your Grave FOREMOST POETS-Pressin On BOUGIE SOLITERRE-Superficial FRANKIE GOES TO HOLLYWOOD-Two Tribes (Annihilation mix) DOPPLEREREFFEKT-Rocket Scientist ANDREW MC LAUGHIAN-Love Story FILLIPPO NAUGHTY MOSCATELLO-Disco Volante THE FLYING LIZARDS-Steam Away cheers, Dan http://www.mp3.com/DanButler http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html
RE: [313] Napster story...
From the article: A Sony Music spokesman responded by saying, ``This alliance does nothing to address the millions of past acts of copyright infringement by Napster, or those being committed by the company on an ongoing basis.'' Yeah, and we all know that is a sick, sick crime... Dan ps. anyone heard this new tune that apparently uses the main hook from Groove la chord and lays it over a typical trance track? http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler -Original Message- From: Diana Potts [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 November 2000 13:03 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Napster story... Off topic, but just for those following the Napster story. A very interesting development IMHO http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20001101/en/music-napster_5.html d
RE: [313] Jaguar in UK charts
A lot of people (on this list and off) who are into this would have already bought their copy a long time ago when it came out first time. Supposing that's a few thousand around the UK, that's a big dent in any singles sales these days. Could be a reason. I, like most, haven't got the money to be buying two copies of records (friends have to lend me records for doubles fun!) On another note, anybody have details for Joe Clausell's appearance in London this weekend? Need a place I can order tickets from. cheers, Dan http://www.mp3.com/DanButler http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html -Original Message- From: Tom Robbins [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 October 2000 14:23 To: 313 mailing list Subject: Re: [313] Jaguar in UK charts SO i do think it is possible for a track to reach the top of the charts but they do need airplay from some radio/tv station. I agree, it is possible (albeit very rare), and that's what I thought would happen with Jaguar. It's had considerable airplay on Radio 1 here - the UKs only national FM pop station - but it seems that wasn't enough. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Musical shock
So I pop around my parent's house at the weekend to try and fix an internet problem they have. My mum picks up a cd and says here, what do you think to this. I saw a write up on it in the weekend newspaper and it looked really interesting. So what is it?... well I never heard of the band, but the label I certainly did - FatCat records! The cd is Sigur Ros Agaetis Byrjun. Blow me down! Anyone heard this? I didn't get time to stop and listen. Anyone else have any surprises from family like this - great-grandad getting down to Surgeon's new one? cheers, Dan http://www.mp3.com/DanButler http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html
RE: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music
One major biological reason seems to be that women simply aren't as obsessive as men (sure, there are exceptions as with all things). Obsessiveness (hmm, my spell checker doesn't recognise this word!!) is a key factor in the time it takes to learn to DJ, learn to write tracks etc. This is pointed out quite early on in Last Night A DJ Saved My Life, which I have just started to read! cheers, Dan http://www.mp3.com/DanButler http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html -Original Message- From: fab137 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 October 2000 15:25 To: Kent williams; 313 Subject: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music As to why more women aren't doing it, it beats me. Sexism is a factor everywhere One thing I've always noticed is the abnormally high number of males compared to females in techno clubs worldwide. I think its just the appealI mean it obviusly appeals more to men than women. So considering that female djs are already scarce, couple that with the macho appeal of technothere you have it! No women djs! bye fab - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music
Isn't that a bit of a sweeping statement in itself - it's cultural, not biological? Sure, there must be hundreds of factors why women aren't as well presented as men, that's the whole point in undertaking such a difficult project right? I was simply pointing out one factor that immediately occurs to me. I'd say most people on this list are at least a little obsessive about techno, that's the reason we read it day in day out. cheers, Dan http://www.mp3.com/DanButler http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html -Original Message- From: b3kka [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 October 2000 14:48 To: 313 Subject: Re: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music u really think it's a question of obsessiveness?! what about the gatekeeping factors and everything else that women have to endure to make it in a predominantly male scene. i can't believe u just said that! or the fact that technological has predominantly been seen and treated as part of the public sphere which has until recently been occupied solely by men? there are a ton of factors that come into play here. women are not BIOLOGICALLY less obsessive than men...it's CULTURAL and not biological. k, i'll try to stop now. but this project is definitely going to happen. so for everyone who's responded to my plea for help thus far...thank u very much and you'll be hearing from me soon...cuz it's about time. bekka. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] One major biological reason seems to be that women simply aren't as obsessive as men (sure, there are exceptions as with all things). Obsessiveness (hmm, my spell checker doesn't recognise this word!!) is a key factor in the time it takes to learn to DJ, learn to write tracks etc NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music
I don't doubt that you are as passionate about it is anyone else. But then what's this list's ratio of men to women? No less than the ratio in most techno/electronic music clubs I'll wager. Dan -Original Message- From: Diana Potts [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 October 2000 16:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music i debate. As I sit here and listen to this CD i got asked to review (St.Germain,Tourist) my FIRST instict was that i wanted it on vinyl. when i hear a track I have to stop my conversation to listen to it or point it out or find out what it is. passion does not know gender, my friend. d From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:32:22 +0100 One major biological reason seems to be that women simply aren't as obsessive as men (sure, there are exceptions as with all things). Obsessiveness (hmm, my spell checker doesn't recognise this word!!) is a key factor in the time it takes to learn to DJ, learn to write tracks etc. This is pointed out quite early on in Last Night A DJ Saved My Life, which I have just started to read! cheers, Dan http://www.mp3.com/DanButler http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html -Original Message- From: fab137 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 October 2000 15:25 To: Kent williams; 313 Subject: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music As to why more women aren't doing it, it beats me. Sexism is a factor everywhere One thing I've always noticed is the abnormally high number of males compared to females in techno clubs worldwide. I think its just the appealI mean it obviusly appeals more to men than women. So considering that female djs are already scarce, couple that with the macho appeal of technothere you have it! No women djs! bye fab - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Kenny Larkin live chat - tonight
Just noticed, there's a live chat going on tonight from the KMS website, featuring Kenny Larkin. Broadcasting 6pm EST (11pm GMT). Maybe we can finally get a date on that new album that's been all too long in arriving! http://www.kmsproductions.com cheers, Dan http://www.mp3.com/DanButler http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html
RE: [313] stacey pullen
No, good as this, the Stand is better, believe me! This would be Akabu's Your Wildest Dreams on NRK. cheers, Dan http://www.mp3.com/DanButler http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html -Original Message- From: yoav bernstein [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 September 2000 08:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] stacey pullen -- the track that almost ends the second part of stacey pullen's set at the DEMF (thru groovtech). the one that starts with a ferry female voice that talks about tonight... a wonderfull thing is going to happen or somthing and then there is some fine spacy detroit techno. WHAT IS IT? kevin saunderson played it to in his set on groovetech. is it pullen's the stand? pleeease help me Get your FREE Email and Voicemail at Lycos Communications at http://comm.lycos.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Soundhack remixes
There was talk a while back about Claude Young doing a remix of the first Soundhack release. Anyone know any further news on this, whether it's been circulating on whites or some such? Thanks, Dan ps. check out the amazing Pre Fade Listening 12 (haven't heard the album yet) with Tikiman on vocals, real dark and broody! http://www.mp3.com/DanButler http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html
RE: [313] Thomas Brinkmann new CD
This confirms for me why so many mix CDs out there are so dull. Most are label funded and focusing on tracks, but when there's so much that a DJ can add to the mix, why waste the opportunity? Let's face it, these tracks are for the hugely greater part made to be mixed with, just wish labels were prepared to take more chances and stick their necks out with some flash cut and paste mixing action! Bring on the Derrick May mix cd. Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler -Original Message- From: Todd Smith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 6:55 PM To: Jonny McIntosh; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Thomas Brinkmann new CD Per Matt's Moodymann mix cd comment about tracks being under 3 minutes etc.: Unfortunately when making compilations very few labels want just 3 minutes of a track to be on the cd. Most mixed cd compilations from labels (read: the label has asked the artist to mix the tracks for a compilation example: Miguel Migs for Naked Music, or David Alvarado for Guidance, or Nick Holder etc.) will showcase the tracks and not the artist mixing them. This means that the tracks are usually full length, and mixed into and out of quickly (ie 30 second mixes are usually considered long mixes). The best mix compilations are done by artists (not labels, ie Laurent Garnier Laboratoire Mixes) or magazines (Mixmag) where the labels aren't really involved. todd Jonny McIntosh wrote: Also, does anyone have tracklistings for the upcoming Jedi Knights CD retrospective (hope it has some old EV/SYM stuff, don't you?) and the new Moodymann CD? I've heard the Moodymann CD's more of a retrospective. Apparently it's got one of the promo tracks from the Peacefrog album, for example. There are, I hear, 4 new tracks on it (only 2 on the vinyl, goddamn it), as well. Whilst on the Moodymann topic, does anyone know if he is playing anywhere other than Home in London this weekend? It's Notting Hill Carnival weekend and he played at a fantastic party (featuring him, Theo Parrish - he rocked it, Rick Wilhite 4 Hero) there 2 years ago; is anything similar due this time? I'm not risking Home, because he probably won't turn up, it's too expensive and, I just can't quite bring myself to do it... Jonny. P.S. Cheers for the feedback for my Detroit compilation tape. I'll email a track listing to all those who requested it. Now I just have to get a copy of that Dorothy Ashby LP... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] hood, mills, craig, nubian mindz, domu
Have to add that the Mills double is just what I've been waiting to hear from him. Really warm and fluid, gentle yet danceable. His use of subtle rhythm building just here and there in all the right places is perfect, plus I love all those marimba patterns! As Marsel says, there are elements of the original Detroit sound, hints of the beauty of some of Derrick May's original masterpieces. Not a duff track in sight, so buy on sight! Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com -Original Message- From: marsel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 July 2000 17:39 To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [313] hood, mills, craig, nubian mindz, domu what is techno? is techno still alive? is there still any good techno coming out? well, whatever.. i bought some records yesterday and i would like to share my opinios about them. ||| robert hood - nighttime world volume 2 - cd - m-plant - m-p318.cd nighttime world (volume 1) was robert hood's double pack release through pulsinger's outlet cheap from austria. on that release he successfully combined jazz elements with minimal techno, together with a good portion of soul. this cd album, volume 2, sees fourteen beautiful tracks and with those he even moves more away from his minimal style. first track after the intro goes smoothly downtempo and funky, as some other will do as well. most remarkable for me is that 'only' about three go in a more 'regular hood way', but nevertheless, as said, it's a very gorgeous soulful album. most tracks come in a lush, beautiful ambient way, reminding to older jon beltran albums and neil olliveira's 313 soundtrack, and also mills' ambient sound scapes. some come with soft beats, some with smooth breaks, but the soul is definitely always there. a very stronge real smooth, warm laidback album. millsart - every dog has its day - 2x12 - axis - ax-20 shortly after his lifelike album, and several purpose makers, jeff mills comes up with this double pack. first track takes of with the smooth tight mills'feeling, 4/4, but pretty downtempo. second track goes more downtempo, string-based, even somewhat breaky. side b brings two tracks, first track in a real may-styled positivism, soft strings, lush melodies, wonderful stuff. second track goes ambient, somewhat darker, deep things. second platter, side c goes again in more soft mode, still mills, but from his most romantic side, dreamy strings, gentle snares, and deeply, deeply soulful. side d continues in this lush style, again more downtempo techno, strings, funky melodies all around. second track maybe comes most close to his more familiar things, as it is pretty direct with a smooth euporhic feeling, last short ambient piece makes the circle round.. for me it's really best thing he's done, at least the last three years. axis as it should be, a timeless release as several others, which made axis so really wonderful!!
RE: [313] hood, mills, craig, nubian mindz, domu
I guess I'm just happy to have a release that is choc full of quality tracks, whether it pushes forward the techno envelope or not. Too many artists are copying other artists, the originators. At least you can't accuse this release of that - even though it has a lot of classic elements in there, it still sounds fresh compared to the majority of whats in the racks at the moment. My jury is still out on the new Hood release though! Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 July 2000 10:43 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] hood, mills, craig, nubian mindz, domu Allthough my feelings about the Mills 2pack are the same, that is that its very pleasent and accesible it does seem a bit old-fashioned . Classic techno like May etc used to produce so are we full circle? even hood seems to flirt with real music more and more so is innovation at this point in time not an issue and do we just want quality products? or is innovation to be found in the symbiosis of old and new? I felt that in minimalism techno hasd found a unique quality and even subject matter interesting enuff to explore on its own. I still think there´s a lot of unexplored terrain in that area which might define techno and shape it into the effective language it can be. One of the most direct and focussed styles ever. I like the way techno is goin, that is i truly enjoy craftmanship but i prefer to be challenged just a litle bit more. In other words, Mills is playin safe and that is a shame, the man has been pushin techno towards extremes which in my opinion is his biggest quality. Same goes for hood by the way. So a definate 9+ for both but a litle note on the side, stay angry! J - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] axis 20
Hardwax have it listed for DM33,90 - about 10 quid! Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler -Original Message- From: Tom Churchill [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 11:29 AM To: 313 Subject: [313] axis 20 It doesn't matter whether the extortionate price (22 ukp) is due to Axis, the distributor or the retailer. The fact is that someone is taking the piss, and there is no way I'm going to shell out for a record that I know full well should cost an absolute maximum of 15 ukp. It's also kind of up to Mills as the label manager to ensure that his fans can get hold of his records at a reasonable price - he does have a certain amount of power over the distributors he sells to and surely he can object to their pricing? As Sean said, someone somewhere along the chain is taking the piss - personally I doubt it's Mills but then he will be benefitting from it, and if anyone can put it right it's him. Just my $0.02... Tom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Stacey Pullen 'The Stand'
Definately does the biz - was going to ask about this myself, after hearing Stacey drop it at The End on Saturday. Awesome, driving, raw - get me this record! Love the way Stacey reacts to it when he plays it too... Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler -Original Message- From: Niall [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 2:22 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Stacey Pullen 'The Stand' *Stacey Pullen presents Black Odyssey The Stand on Black Flag Records* ...does anyone know what happened to this tune? It was last seen about 5 months ago in full white label disguise, but has yet to come out of hiding. It is considered to be very dangerous, causing mass devistation in underground dance halls by means of relentless driving funk and should be approached with extreme caution. Rumours have abounded about its imminant release into the community, but yet no confirmed sightings have been reported. If anyone has seen this item on the streets or has any relevant information of its whereabouts, then contact me in order that I may seek out the criminal beast and secure it for an indefinite period of incarceration in my record box. ...a reward of #7 or equivalent will be given to anyone handing me the offending item. ))\ )) o ___ )) )) (( \(( (( ((_(, (( ((... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] industrial
FLA, along with Skinny Puppy and Front 242 started my interest in fully electronic music. I preferred FLA and Front 242 for their purer electronic sound, while I just loved SP's rabid harshness. But FLA now? Taken several rather severe steps back if you ask me. Can't listen to their last, I dunno, 5 albums! (Rhys Fulber left a while back didn't he?) And I mean, how bad are Delerium now?? Their first album (though not Industrial, mind you it did have a few clangs here and there!) was amazing. Especially Hidden Mask, a real tear jerker. Industrial's bright days are long long gone! Cheers, Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 2:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] industrial 'That Total Age' by Nitzer Ebb is also a killer-album, i really like the energy of it. This band, together with 242, Skinny Puppy, Revolting Cocks and Frontline Assembly (Code Industry as well;) opend a whole new world for me, it was the music that i had been looking for, something to replace the daily terror of hearing stuff like Snap ;). Techno came along but i never turned my back on industrial (although i prefer to call it electronic music nowadays) and i sometimes listen to some of the recent stuff by Frontline Assembly (who i think absolutely rock!) or VNV Nation, make's a change in hearing non-vocal techno all the time ;) *Let your Body Learn!!! Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DEMF article
Sorry if this has been mentioned already, but there's a short article on the DEMF festival up at http://www.sonicnet.com/dance/news/ Includes a few quotes from Carl Craig, Lawrence Burden and Dan Sicko. Cheers, Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler
RE: [313] Re: Sonar Barcelona 2000
Yep, see you there boys! Maybe not the most immediately impressive line-up that they've had in previous years (and not as Detroit-y as I'd like), but then that just means more pleasent surprises from the not-so-knowns. Looking forward to seeing Herbert live for one. Want to see this everything and the kitchen sink being sampled live approach I've heard so much about! Hasta pronto! (flying out on the 14th) Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler -Original Message- From: Greg Earle [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 10:20 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [313] Re: Sonar Barcelona 2000 Is anyone planning to go to the Sonar Festival? Did I hear Sonar? *perk* You bet. I'm getting my plane reservations finalized as we speak. I should be there from the 10th of June until the 18th, i.e. heading straight from the last dying embers of Sonar straight back to the airport. Can't wait!!! Now to find a hotel ... gonna be difficult ... hey Steven Lammers, what are you doing about it? Everybody should go to Sonar! That way you can meet me, Dale, Steven, Dan and Simon, Our Man In Barcelona (Juanjo), and the Four Dutchmen Of The Apocalypse (geez, that statement would be more relevant if they lived in Enschede, huh?). - Greg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) paul mac on ognaku
Where does he does DJ though? I've never seen him listed for a set at any of the usual techno haunts. I remember reading an interview where he said if he had to choose, he'd rather be a DJ than a producer. Now for someone who capable of doing tracks like he is, this seems like a strange choice! His new one on Fragmented is a really good 4 tracker, up-tempo with his trademark deep strings. cheers, Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html New MP3.com site: http://www.mp3.com/DanButler -Original Message- From: Tom Robbins [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 9:36 AM To: 313 mailing list post Subject: Re: (313) paul mac on ognaku Paul is currently releasing on Fragmented plus his own Stimulus and Tactical labels. Previous releases on Fracture (Blueprint spinoff) and, er, quite a few more I think. His debut album on Fragmented from a couple of years back should also be findable. Apparently he was propping up the back wall at Lost on Sunday along with half the UK techno fraternity/mafia. But he is the only person I ever met who doesn't like pizza. Yus, Paul can do tracks real well. Nice variety too, one of the best in the UK I think :) And he's not a bad ol' DJ. Tom - Original Message - From: rol leider [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 6:20 AM Subject: (313) paul mac on ognaku The new Paul Mac on Ognaku is damn damn fine. Four beautiful tracks. So what's his story? I gather he's British, and I think he has something to do with Stimulus (owner?). Any other recommended releases? These German labels are really setting the pace for deep house and techno. Not only are Perlon, Kompakt, Playhouse etc putting out some great German stuff, but also seem to inspire the foreigners to rise to the deepest of heights. Cheers Rol Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) track id
Thanks for this - aha, at last a chance to id a track I've been after for ages. It's the one around 18 mins... I don't know why... Anyone please? Cheers, Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html New MP3 com site: http://www.mp3.com/DanButler -Original Message- From: Blair McBride [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 9:09 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) track id a dj set by dj bone at: http://www.technologix.org/ram/events/blue/blue2.ram 30:46 minutes into the set. dpe track!! blair __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) RE: Karl Bartos remix
Nah - 45rpm, and it's firing! Has he done any other remixes for other artists? Cheers, Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html -Original Message- From: stephen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 12:40 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Peter Spiess - True Video I highly recommend the new Peter Spiess - True Video on Klang Elektronik, http://www.peter-spiess.de/Klang/37.htm http://www.peter-spiess.de/ This record is amazing! some of the best minimal techno I've heard in a while, Sounds like a cross between the Sweet Exorcist and Mike Ink. My favorite track is symbol shift. Also what's the deal with Karl Bartos remix of Little Computer People by Anthony Rother? Is this 33 rpm or 45 rpm? I think it sounds best 33 rpm +8, maybe its my wild imagination but I think I hear Karl Bartos using a Ravolution 309. anywayz, later. stephen.
RE: (313) I miss Colin Dales Abstrakt Dance
Superb techno compilation. How did Outer Limits 2 compare to this? (there was an Outer Limits 2 wasn't there?) The Carl Craig track also later appeared on the More Songs album, I think it's the track called Suspiria there. Love that track - so moody! Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html -Original Message- From: Ross Balmer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 12:13 PM To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) I miss Colin Dales Abstrakt Dance Colin Dale is great, I used to listen to the Abstrakt Dance on Kiss FM in London way back in 1989. Wish I'd known about the internet broadcasts while they were still on but this is the first I've heard of them :( I picked up the Outer Limits comp on Colin's Kickin records second hand the other week, (Outer Limits was the last hour of the show which was more experimental). It's a really good compilation: 01 - Florence - A Touch of Heaven 02 - Liner Alba - Space Travel 03 - Outlander - Aural Scent 04 - Kinesthesia - Kobal 05 - Mystic Force - Clearlight 06 - Connective Zone - Holistic Worlds 07 - The Force Dimension - 200 FA 08 - Carl Craig - No More Words 09 - Ongaku - Mihon #2 10 - Clementine - The Opening 11 - Luke Slater - Secret Garden 12 - Four Voice - The Mystery Ross.
(313) Making Sandwiches
Well, Detroit Grand Pubas Sandwiches track made Essential New Tune of the week on the Pete Tong Radio 1 show last week. Does this mean we can expect a tone for tone rip any day now??... Heard the samples from Heiko Laux's new album on the Kanzleramt website. Awesome deep techno fare, along with the new Diego release on same label. This guy done anything else? Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html
RE: (313) SONAR
Yeah, just do it - you really can't go wrong if you have any kind of love for electronic arts, full-stop. The line-up is bound to be superb, with a lot of local talent in addition to more well known acts. The city is of course a beautiful setting. Best memory of last year - grooving away at 8am on the beach terrace beneath the morning sun to Angel Molina's deep house set with a 1000 happy people lost in music (Buena Vida, indeed!). Juanjo (who is hiding somewhere on the list!) will probably know more about this year's line-up. See you there! Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html -Original Message- From: Nick Craddock [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 12:08 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) SONAR Greg Earle wrote - Whereas at Sonar you pay one price (around US $78 last year) for all 3 days, 12 Noon to 10 PM in one location, then Midnight to 7 or 8 (or 9) AM in the beach location, you can float around and check other stuff out without paying separate admission, and heck ... Sonar is just a LOT cooler than shmoozing by the Fountainbleu pool Speaking of which, are any 313ers considering making the trip to Barcelona? I'm very very tempted Nick __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: (313) Theo Parrish ID
Yes, lovely double pack of tribalness, complete with some nice fluid jungle-like (as in in the jungle, not Jungle) interludes, plus nice restrained use of live keys. Love that tribal-scat vocal track, work really well when you bring a bass beat right up behind it! Sample of it on my website. Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html -Original Message- From: Viti Davide [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 11:22 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Theo Parrish ID I also got Underground Evolution's Primordial Passage on Peace Frog which I really like... does any of you have and/or like this one Thanx a lot Davide
RE: (313) Stewart Walker Stabiles
This reminds me - I picked up a copy of Melody Maker the other week and I think it was this release (it was definately a Stewart Walker release) that got an absolute slagging! It was the first time I'd read MM in a while and it reminded me just how much they like their music to come from 'proper' bands with real sell-able faces. I threw the mag away pretty quick so don't remember details, but other similar experimental electronic releases seemed to be coming under heavy fire. I'll save my money in future and buy a bacon butty or something instead... Dan Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html -Original Message- From: Kent williams [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 4:30 PM To: 313 list; iduhntuhbelluhbiguhbent duhbance muhbusuhbic Subject: (313) Stewart Walker Stabiles Stewart Walker's Stabiles (force inc/mille plateaux/tektite) is a must have, if you have any interest at all in the dubby, chill end of the techno spectrum. The Stabiles, like the sculptures that inspired them, are pieces that explore balance, tension, and space. At first listen you hear the repetition indicative of their minimal nature, but as you listen again the gradual morph and build technique yields a different impression -- one of travel through a large architectural space. The repeating elements are like columns holding up the roof, and the changing elements are the shifting context as you walk around the space. To make more concrete references, Stabiles is inspired by, but does not imitate, the minimalism of Theorem, the Concept series, and Thomas Brinkmann. You can hear echos of the Basic Channel sound as well, but Stewart has constructed something here that stands by itself, and stands up to repeated listenings. Contemplative, chill, and resolutely minimal. Definitely a must buy!
