RIP Detroit MC BO$$

[kent williams]

Lichelle Laws aka BO$$ was the first woman MC signed by Def Jam.

Her biggest hit is a 100% Detroit vibe.

https://youtu.be/XRvpGGc9Jv8?si=fkURowadKqUwQOXX

Re: Amp Fiddler album

[kent williams]

"The One" is such a fantastic representation of Detroit music. Detroit
music attracted me by the way that unique musical environment
produces such original, heartfelt music. The very conscious use of
1970s musical tropes in a new century to say something new.  And
there's an unbroken chain going back to the 1950s and beyond. People
who were involved with Motown were still around as guys like Amp came
along.

For me there's something that I hear as Detroit in music: it's honest
and openly emotional, it makes a direct appeal to your senses and your
heart. Marvin Gaye, Moodymann, Amp Fiddler are embedded in a
tradition.  Make something excellent and if you can't quite do that,
make people feel something.

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 1:12 PM Tristan Watkins  wrote:
>
> I'm don't think I mentioned this here when Amp Fiddler passed, but I recently 
> got this album, The One, with Will Sessions. Just had it on again. Some of 
> his best music here. Seven Mile is especially attention grabbing (Moodymann 
> shared a clip of this track on Instagram, which is how I found out I'd slept 
> on this), but the whole album is really nice. 
> https://willsessions.bandcamp.com/album/the-one
>
> RIP

Re: Amp Fiddler died.

[kent williams]

In thinking about Amp, I forgot about how much he did to help Dilla when he
was just a kid. Dilla was a talent that would have found a way without Amp,
but we're all lucky Dilla had such a  mentor. Detroit might not be unique
in how its network of mentoring & influence works but the results have been
staggering over the years. And it's a web that connects everyone alive &
working today back to Detroit's amazing past.

On Monday, December 18, 2023, the Beauty and Belief Society <
thequietoverh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Words.
> RIP.
>
> Long time no hear kent.
>
> Def made his impact on some Dilla shit off the top, and if im thinking
> correctly he's prob the guy who ended up lugging an obnoxiously heavy old
> ass synth out just to record Over the Breaks.
>
> Lots of 313 folks like that during the same era. No disrespect. Just wanna
> recogonize real for being real.
>
> Like... on some Mike Huckaby shit.
>
> For real I'm pretty sure I have a Prince Po 12" somewhere burnin' up for a
> spin right now.
>
> Any Bling 47 fans out there?
>
> Don't mind me. I have no idea what I'm talkimbout
>
> 
>
> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 9:43 PM kent williams 
> wrote:
>
>> Amp was singular. I had a press pass the year he played the main stage
>> at DEMF so I watched him from close up, checking his hands on the keys
>> and how he interacted with thousands of people like they were friends
>> on his couch.  I drove into Chicago to see him again a few months
>> later, and he was the same, but different. In both contexts, he read
>> the room and modulated his performance for the space and audience.
>>
>> When I think of comparisons, Prince, Stevie Wonder, D'Angelo all come
>> to mind.  But it's more like they're all drinking from the same well,
>> not that Amp was like them, in any imitative way. He was someone who
>> you can identify from just a few notes.
>>
>> And it always seemed effortless, weightless.  The funk flowed out of
>> him like his breath.  That's how you can tell that someone is an
>> artist - they've mastered the mechanical demands of their music, to
>> where they don't have to think about playing.  They're just there in
>> the music, and their goal is emotion and communication.  The music is
>> a seamless part of themselves they can share.
>>
>> When I think of Amp that's what I think of: his personality, his
>> humor, his emotional connection. I will miss him a lot.
>>
>

Amp Fiddler died.

[kent williams]

Amp was singular. I had a press pass the year he played the main stage
at DEMF so I watched him from close up, checking his hands on the keys
and how he interacted with thousands of people like they were friends
on his couch.  I drove into Chicago to see him again a few months
later, and he was the same, but different. In both contexts, he read
the room and modulated his performance for the space and audience.

When I think of comparisons, Prince, Stevie Wonder, D'Angelo all come
to mind.  But it's more like they're all drinking from the same well,
not that Amp was like them, in any imitative way. He was someone who
you can identify from just a few notes.

And it always seemed effortless, weightless.  The funk flowed out of
him like his breath.  That's how you can tell that someone is an
artist - they've mastered the mechanical demands of their music, to
where they don't have to think about playing.  They're just there in
the music, and their goal is emotion and communication.  The music is
a seamless part of themselves they can share.

When I think of Amp that's what I think of: his personality, his
humor, his emotional connection. I will miss him a lot.

New Speaker Music

[kent williams]

You know, if you're a Detroit techno fan, you know about the Drexciyan
mythology.

Deforest Brown AKA Speaker Music has taken the Drexciyan mythos and run with it.

Is it Detroit techno? No, It's hard to say what it is exactly, There's
some of the relentless rhythm of footwork, but it isn't footwork. It's
avant-garde Afro-Futurist electronic music, an overwhelming sonic
assault.

I have to say that I love anything under the heading of Afro-Futurism,
though I have to say I don't entirely understand it. That's OK by me.
I'm having the most fun when I'm being overwhelmed and confused by new
music.

Artwork by Abu Qadim Haqq

https://speakermusic.bandcamp.com/album/techxodus

Re: Claude Young retirement!?!

[kent williams]

According to Claude's reply on Instagram, the article is crap. He's
stepping away from DJing and it sounds like he's focusing on composing
new music without regard to genre.

It's hard to overstate his reputation, especially in Japan and Europe.
He's got nothing left to prove, but I expect new surprises from him!

On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 1:16 PM Rob Theakston  wrote:
>
> Hats off to Claude, as always, for staying true to himself and sticking with 
> his instincts. Sad to see him go, but so lucky to see him work magic on those 
> decks.
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 11:28 AM kent williams  wrote:
>>
>> Claude Young announced he's done DJing and he's stopped posting to social 
>> media.
>>
>> https://ra.co/news/79327
>>
>> The article says he intends to continue making music but I'm curious
>> what form that will take.  I am forever in his debt for the DJ sets
>> I've had the privilege to see live, the fantastic records he's made,
>> and also for the kindness he's shown to me personally.
>>
>> If anyone knows him well enough to communicate with him, maybe pass
>> along some love from me (and I assume, most 313 list subscribers).

Claude Young retirement!?!

[kent williams]

Claude Young announced he's done DJing and he's stopped posting to social media.

https://ra.co/news/79327

The article says he intends to continue making music but I'm curious
what form that will take.  I am forever in his debt for the DJ sets
I've had the privilege to see live, the fantastic records he's made,
and also for the kindness he's shown to me personally.

If anyone knows him well enough to communicate with him, maybe pass
along some love from me (and I assume, most 313 list subscribers).

My New album "Live Studies" (blatant self promo)

[kent williams]

I'm evolving a way to play live, completely improvised and I recorded
some rehearsals for a performance.

I don't really know how this will hit anyone besides me.  It's
rhythmically free and shambolic, it uses live granular effects that
can radically rearrange what I'm playing and looping.

It's the most self-indulgent thing I've ever done insofar as releasing
an album on bandcamp.  It might test your patience, it might lull you
into a trance, I really don't know.

https://chaircrusher.bandcamp.com/album/live-studies-2

PS I think this list is an excellent place to share your music,
particularly if it's techno or house or whatever but in so far as this
is still some sort of community, let's share.

Self Promotion

[kent williams]

I released 2 albums on Bandcamp Friday this month.

The first was released by Component Recordings:
https://componentrecordings.bandcamp.com/album/chaircrusher-music-for-upholstery

The second I self-released:
https://chaircrusher.bandcamp.com/album/daddy-or-chips

The Component album has been in the works a couple of months. The
self-released one came about partly to get in on the Bandcamp Friday
release schedule, and partly because releasing 2 albums in one day is a
stunt.

Both albums are me on my bullshit.  Mostly ambient, occasionally beats,
based around a lot of distressed field recordings and shortwave radio
sampling.

Re: [Pertin-nce 092] V/A - On est Là Mais pas Là (free EP)

[kent williams]

This song though
https://pertin-nce.bandcamp.com/track/ouuu-what-r-u-looking4

It is this weird midpoint between Burial Mix and "In A Silent Way" Miles
Davis.  Absolutely riveting to me.

https://pertin-nce.bandcamp.com/track/ouuu-what-r-u-looking4

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 1:02 PM dubloop  wrote:

> [Pertin-nce 092] V/A - On est Là Mais pas Là
>
> 1.Shango - Badger b
> 2.Shango - Badger a
> 3.Kado - Ouuu What R u Looking4
> 4.Kado - No riz t
> 5.Bleupulp - Huhwgat
> 6.Bleupulp - MR Freak-Micro
>
> sounds like : minimal, micro, techno, house, experimental & ambient
>
>
> stream & free download:
>
> https://pertin-nce.bandcamp.com/album/pertin-nce-092-v-a-on-est-l-mais-pas-l
>
> ---
>
> about:
> This EP was due to be released as a small edition of lathe cuts & CD-r's +
> extra stuff , but due to various delays and complications with the cutting
> machine we decided to release it as a free EP for your own enjoyment.
>
> We love to share music and we hope you will have fun listening to this
> release.
>
> We are 3 dudes from Quebec city and we met thru music and became friends.
> Even thought we live in the same province / area it does not mean we see
> each other all the time or hang out. We mostly speak on internet...
> therefore one the reasons that made me decide of the title (which translate
> from French to English to something like) ''he/we are there but not there''
> ...
>
> ---
>
> extra links:
>
> Shango :https://soundcloud.com/shango-qc
>
> Kado : https://soundcloud.com/vincent-cadorette
>
> Bleupulp:
> https://www.bleupulp.bandcamp.com
>
> ---
>
> more music at:
> www.pertin-nce.ca
> www.pertin-nce.bandcamp.com
> www.the-end-is-near.bandcamp.com
> www.mixcloud.com/pertin
> www.facebook.com/pertinnce
> www.facebook.com/then2014
> www.soundcloud.com/pertin-nce
> https://archive.org/details/@bleupulp
> https://hearthis.at/maxime-tanguay-4x/
> https://www.beatport.com/label/pertin-nce/1656
> www.pertin-nce.blogspot.com
> www.variousanduneasy.blogspot.com
> www.lafaceb.live
>
>
>

Early Gerald Donald aka Glass Domain

[kent williams]

I'd never heard this before:

https://www.discogs.com/release/127327-Glass-Domain-Glass-Domain

"Interlock" is Donald's imagined Lego Commercial, which someone tipped me
to on discord.

https://youtu.be/9ZBp9AUoCEk

Re: new music : Bleupulp - About my Birds

[kent williams]

Good stuff, as per usually. More straightahead and less hazy than your
stuff usually.

"About 11824" is dubby but focused and lush. It reminds me of Mike Huckaby
a bit.


On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 10:36 AM dubloop  wrote:

> hello.
>
> here is my latest EP.
>
> a bit of this and a bit of that : techno, dub tech, ambient and
> experimental...
>
> stream and download:
>
> https://bleupulp.bandcamp.com/album/about-my-birds
>
>
> track listing:
>
> 1.Tek 128-0720
> 2.About 11824
> 3.Cant muke up mu mund
> 4.My birds in the parking lot
> 5.Tek 128-0720 off
>
>
> if you want a free copy just contact me on facebook:
>
> www.facebook.com/djratmaster
>
>
> ciao!
>

Re: Knight Rider

[kent williams]

I've listened to this a lot and think it's ace! I've known Tristan for
almost a quarter century and followed what he's been doing musically since
he first started trying to do it.  It's gratifying to see what he's doing
now.

I will forever be indebted to Tristan for playing Coil "NASA ARAB" on the
radio. I first heard it (from an over-the-air cassette recording) driving
on a county road in a thunderstorm, and only just kept the car between the
ditches.

(back story, I live in Iowa City, where Tristan went to school, before
reverting back to being a Brit)

On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 4:59 AM Tristan Watkins  wrote:

> Hey all. Just popping in to say my fourth record on Horse Category is out
> today, and is pretty on topic. Bandcamp exclusive for the first few weeks
> https://phonopsia.bandcamp.com/album/knight-rider. The vinyl will be
> available at Juno later this month, and most other digital platforms at the
> end of the month.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tristan
>

New release on Apartment Records: Being - "There"

[kent williams]

For fans of Detroit Escalator Company and other Detroit producers'
excursions in to ambient music.

This was "buy on sight" since it's on Kenny Hanlon's Dublin-based Apartment
Records.  It's not specifically Detroit Techno but it's close enough for
the people who've stuck around on the 313 list.

The back story is pretty great. From Kenny's Facebook post " Apartment
recently released a new album on tape / digi of previously unheard music
from Scotland's Being (aka Wee djs) called "There". Abstract acidic techno
recorded to tape 92-95, released to tape in 2022."

https://apartmentrecords.bandcamp.com/album/being-there

Re: Le Morte D'Abby "Not Someone Who Is Loved"

[kent williams]

Le Morte D'Abby says that it reminds him of  Severed Heads "Dead Eyes
Opened" -- so maybe Rolando was working from a Severed Head influence too!

Or maybe music is music and there are all sorts of unlikely connections
going on.

https://youtu.be/Orr2ZqtijCQ

On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 2:45 PM ja...@iridite.com  wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, 23 Aug 2022 at 17:24, kent williams 
> wrote:
>
>> Le Morte D'Abby is aware of techno, no doubt, but I think he got to that
>> almost-Knights-Of-The-Jaguar sound on that song without actually hearing
>> Rolando.
>>
>> There's a 'Detroit Sound' but it's composed of things that aren't unique
>> to techno. You hears echoes of it from people with no great knowledge of
>> techno.
>>
>> The most direct ancestor of that Detroit melodic techno sound is jazz.
>> And there's a direct line from the legit jazz players that made up the
>> Motown house sound to guys like Mad Mike and Amp Fiddler.  The "Strings Of
>> Life" sound came directly from Michael James recording MIDI of his live
>> playing and it's really jazz changes.
>>
>
> Absolutely
>
>
>
>>
>> I've been reading the excellent J Dilla biography "Dilla Time" by Dan
>> Charnas, and it really underlines the interconnectedness of Detroit music.
>> Amp Fiddler was Dilla's mentor early on, and there's mentions of how much
>> techno & ghettotech were in the air as J grew up. Dilla's dad Dewitt Yancey
>> was a jazz bassist, and J grew up hearing his parents play jazz every day.
>>
>
> I've got this, just need to find time to actually read it!
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 9:36 AM ja...@iridite.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Kent - yeah, that's a pretty "familiar" sound on that release :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 22 Aug 2022 at 17:32, Rob Theakston 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Reminds me quite a bit of Ian O Brien and recent Kirk stuff. Quite
>>> lovely.
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 12:25 PM kent williams 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Le Morte D'Abby puts out stuff on the label that's released some of
>>> my music.  He isn't a techno producer per se, but man this track screams
>>> Detroit to me.
>>> >>
>>> >> https://triplicaterecords.bandcamp.com/track/not-someone-who-is-loved
>>>
>>

Re: Le Morte D'Abby "Not Someone Who Is Loved"

[kent williams]

Le Morte D'Abby is aware of techno, no doubt, but I think he got to that
almost-Knights-Of-The-Jaguar sound on that song without actually hearing
Rolando.

There's a 'Detroit Sound' but it's composed of things that aren't unique to
techno. You hears echoes of it from people with no great knowledge of
techno.

The most direct ancestor of that Detroit melodic techno sound is jazz. And
there's a direct line from the legit jazz players that made up the Motown
house sound to guys like Mad Mike and Amp Fiddler.  The "Strings Of Life"
sound came directly from Michael James recording MIDI of his live playing
and it's really jazz changes.

I've been reading the excellent J Dilla biography "Dilla Time" by Dan
Charnas, and it really underlines the interconnectedness of Detroit music.
Amp Fiddler was Dilla's mentor early on, and there's mentions of how much
techno & ghettotech were in the air as J grew up. Dilla's dad Dewitt Yancey
was a jazz bassist, and J grew up hearing his parents play jazz every day.

On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 9:36 AM ja...@iridite.com  wrote:

> Thanks Kent - yeah, that's a pretty "familiar" sound on that release :)
>
>
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2022 at 17:32, Rob Theakston 
> wrote:
> >
> > Reminds me quite a bit of Ian O Brien and recent Kirk stuff. Quite
> lovely.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 12:25 PM kent williams 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Le Morte D'Abby puts out stuff on the label that's released some of my
> music.  He isn't a techno producer per se, but man this track screams
> Detroit to me.
> >>
> >> https://triplicaterecords.bandcamp.com/track/not-someone-who-is-loved
>

Le Morte D'Abby "Not Someone Who Is Loved"

[kent williams]

Le Morte D'Abby puts out stuff on the label that's released some of my
music.  He isn't a techno producer per se, but man this track screams
Detroit to me.

https://triplicaterecords.bandcamp.com/track/not-someone-who-is-loved

RIP Techno Tourist & Electro producer Wibo Lammerts

[kent williams]

A long-time 313 subscriber & Dutch "Techno-tourist"  Wibo Lammerts has died.

This was sudden, I have no details. He'd just announced an upcoming Berlin
gig.

Holding his family in the light.

My new album "Distelfink" out now!

[kent williams]

This shall be my only promotional announcement on this.

If you have an electronic music show - podcast, college radio, mixcloud -
hit me back & I'll send you the promo like with downloads.

Or you could just buy it for $3 cheap. Or listen to it on-line.

https://triplicaterecords.bandcamp.com/album/distelfink

Thanks!

Re: deep dub techno mix by Enoo Neapolitan

[kent williams]

Very nice chill mox.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 1:00 PM dubloop  wrote:

> My friend from South Africa MC Matutle aka Enoo Napoletian just made this
> exclusive deep dub techno mix for Pertin-nce.
>
>  stream & download:
>
> https://soundcloud.com/pertin-nce/pertin-nce-presents-enoo-neapolitan
>
>
> more about Enoo:
>
> https://hearthis.at/mc-matutle
> https://soundcloud.com/mc-matutle
> https://facebook.com/mc.matutle
> https://www.facebook.com/enoo.neapolitan
>
>
> enjoy
>
>
> max
>
>
> --
> pertin-nce.bandcamp.com
> the-end-is-near.bandcamp.com
> soundcloud.com/bleupulp
> soundcloud.com/maxime-tanguay
>

Re: Submerge?

[kent williams]

I know that all the people from around the midwest that I've been seeing at
parties since the 1990s will be there!


On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 4:57 PM John Sokolowski 
wrote:

> It appears the Wavejumpers can be spotted in Detroit on Memorial Day
> weekend at the Interdimensional Transmissions shindig:
>
> Return to the Source 2022
>
> Saturday May 28
> Return to the Source — Day 1
> Tresor 313
> 10pm - 8am
>
> Underground Resistance presents Wavejumpers (live)
> Shake
> Claude Young
> Daniel Bell (sunrise set)
> Ectomorph (DJ set)
> Batu
> Boyz II Them (Russell E.L. Butler & ADAB)
> Whodat
> Israel Vines
>
> https://interdimensionaltransmissions.com/events/return-source-2022
>
> On Feb 23, 2022, at 2:16 AM, Tristan Watkins  wrote:
>
> Do you reckon the Wavejumpers spotted off the coast of Scotland are there
> to find Nessie?
>
> On Wednesday, 23 February 2022, Patrick Wacher  wrote:
>
>> Oh man, I didn’t even see the others. That Mana de Fuego record really
>> takes me back to that Jupiter Jazz era. Straight up killer.
>> On Feb 22, 2022, 6:15 PM -0800, jwan allen , wrote:
>>
>> all three records sound good to me. Glad to see there's new material in
>> the pipeline!
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022, 8:31 PM Patrick Wacher  wrote:
>>
>>> Someone was listening!
>>>
>>> https://rubadub.co.uk/products/the-sunken-treasure-ep
>>>
>>> Thanks DG for the tip!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 2:52 PM Edvard Thomson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,
 I know this has probably been covered but what has happenned to the
 submerge website? And UR website? Both been inactive for years now. Is UR
 no more? What was there last release?
 Ed612313

>>>

Re: The future of Detroit Techno-Jazz

[kent williams]

This is pretty dope.  I suppose there are people who only like techno, but
I listen to a lot of Jazz and Jazz is interwoven in a lot of Detroit dance
music - Think Theo Parrish, and even (in his own unique way) Omar S...

On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 8:33 AM David A. Powers  wrote:

> Forget that JM press release, if you want to hear some real underground
> jazz, check out  Djallo Djakate playing drums alongside Rafael Statin (aka
> Leafar). This is the cutting edge of cosmic techno-jazz experimentation...
> Caught the recent show under the name "Inner Ear" at Trinosophes in Eastern
> Market, and it was fantastic. Be on the lookout for Inner Ear in the
> future...
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvFM6CImoqo
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpA7zYslnAo
>
> PS Rafael is the saxophonist for a recent Jeff Mills project:
> https://www.axisrecords.com/product/jeff-mills-rafael-leafar-the-override-switch/
>
> It's cool that Jeff recognizes the talent of someone like Rafael and is
> using him. But people should be aware that there are other amazing jazz
> musicians like Djallo Djakate that few people have heard of, and these are
> the people who have been participating in local scenes for years and are
> quietly pushing boundaries and continuing to evolve the music behind
> the scenes.
>
> ~David
>

Re: Recordings of Electrifying Mojo radio sets

[kent williams]

I don't know all the details about his methodology, but the whole thing is
a crazy listening. He does this motivational speaker from outer space thing.

On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 10:50 AM Daniel Bean  wrote:

> Iirc he would get people in to pre-record mixes so possibly not him doing
> the beat juggling?
>
> Nice find though!
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2021, 3:05 PM kent williams 
> wrote:
>
>> https://www.mcrfb.com/?page_id=95734
>>
>> He rocks doubles on Mesopotamia by B52s!
>>
>> https://mcrfb.com/files/airchex//WGPR-FM%20-%20Electrifying%20Mojo%20-%20April%207%201982.mp3
>>
>

Recordings of Electrifying Mojo radio sets

[kent williams]

https://www.mcrfb.com/?page_id=95734

He rocks doubles on Mesopotamia by B52s!
https://mcrfb.com/files/airchex//WGPR-FM%20-%20Electrifying%20Mojo%20-%20April%207%201982.mp3

A quick moment of self-promotion

[kent williams]

Triplicate Records has released my new album SWL. Getting good feedback on
it. It's pay what you want for a limited time.  A mixture of ambient and 80
bpm dub techno and the mutterings of a crazy evangelical preacher on
shortwave.

https://triplicaterecords.bandcamp.com/album/swl

Re: [Pertin​-​nce 085] Monopsia - Ultimate sophistication (free LP)

[kent williams]

I like this release.  Maybe Monopsia should do a collab with Phonopsia!
https://phonopsia.bandcamp.com/album/peaks-and-troughs

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 9:40 AM dubloop  wrote:

> [Pertin​-​nce 085] Monopsia - Ultimate sophistication
>
> ...''an atmospheric dub techno journey from Poland to the far deep
> space''...
>
> track listing:
>
> 1- Reefer Madness
> 2- Silver Squeeze Groove
> 3- Ultimate Sophistication
> 4- Full Moon Dance
> 5- Oauam
> 6- Pasiphae
> 7- Nudy
> 8- Oumuamua
>
> sounds like : dub techno, deep, atmospheric, dubby house.
>
> stream & free DL :
>
> https://pertin-nce.bandcamp.com/album/pertin-nce-085-monopsia-ultimate-sophistication
>
> monopsia: links:
> https://soundcloud.com/kris-monopsia
> https://monopsia.bandcamp.com/
>
>
> peace out
>
>
> max
>

DJ Stingray article on CDM

[kent williams]

I don't know how many of you follow the Create Digital Music blog. It's one
of the premier independent music creation blogs, covering synths & drum
machines & software, and of course, techno of all varieties.

Of course you should check out Stringay's new joint on bandcamp. You can
listen for free!

https://cdm.link/2021/10/stingray-is-rebooting-electro-in-an-even-more-fresh-and-futuristic-form/

John Tejada "Year Of The Living Dead"

[kent williams]

I didn't notice until I started trawling Bandcamp for Tejada that he has an
album out this year.

>From the title it makes me think this is his pandemic album.  It definitely
has more 'home listening' style tracks, like "Eidolon" which stitches
together a dizzyingly varied set of electronic sounds.  The beat is closer
to hip hop or dubstep than techno, but the groove is so sharp it draws
blood. "Spectral Progressions" has a similar feel half-stepper feel..
People on the IDM list would have lost their minds over this in the 1990s.

"Abbot of Burton" sounds superficially like techno but things get really
wonky. I love the low-fi drum break sample that comes in on the turnaround
precisely once.  "Panacea" is a classic Tejada techno track with a jigsaw
groove. "Anchorites" closes out with a two-step beat and a haze of synth
chord filthy with digital aliasing.

https://johntejada.bandcamp.com/album/year-of-the-living-dead

New John Tejada/Ulrich Krieger

[kent williams]

Saxophone Techno was NOT on my bingo card for 2021, but this is really
nice.  Tejada can churn out fantastic techno tracks without breaking a
sweat, but the way he integrates Ulrich Krieger's saxophone feels really
warm and human.

Josh Wink's Interpretation sounds like a Santiago Salazar joint, which is
good.  It's more directly techno than the original mix, but still
compelling.  The Wink dub version strips most of the original sound out,
leaving a lean banger behind.

https://johntejada.bandcamp.com/album/silversonic

Omar S album we should have been talking about when it came out

[kent williams]

Not only does Omar S always deliver when it comes to banging dancefloor
tracks, he also has attitude for days.

As someone who produces music I would LOVE watching him work on tracks.
His music makes sense wholistically, but when you try and deconstruct how
he makes tracks they're much weirder in their construction and sound than
other people's music.

The level of mystery around what he does reminds me of Drexciya.  He's
differently stylistically, but there's a similar rawness to how he
constructs tracks.

https://omar-s.bandcamp.com/album/simply

Re: Detor - Remember

[kent williams]

Oh man, Tim Baker died? I'm gutted. Why am I only finding that out now?

On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 12:20 PM Rob Theakston 
wrote:

> Detor's parties were a major turning point for me. I had a radio show on
> our college station between Derrick/Detor crew and Fanon Flowers. Both of
> those fellows were instrumental in landing my internship at Planet E.
>
> Incredibly grateful to this crew. Not only for their contributions to the
> 313 community, but their influence on my own impressionable ears. Sad that
> the reunion is under such circumstances.
>
> On Sat, Jun 5, 2021, 1:10 PM Detor Productions 
> wrote:
>
>> In the fall of 1995 five friends joined together to form a company known
>> as Detor Productions. The name, Detor, was formed by a combination of the
>> words Detroit and Toronto, the cities they called home. Various elements
>> were taken from each of these cities' music scenes, along with up and
>> coming talent from around the world, and were combined to create a unique
>> and innovative party experience.
>>
>> 26 years later in April 2021 we lost two of our brothers, Jason
>> Cutsinger, a founding member of Detor and Tim Baker, a regular at our
>> events and long time friend.
>>
>> On June 12th, 2021 Detor, in collaboration with friends and artists who
>> were prominent at our events during the 90's, invite you to celebrate the
>> lives of our brothers and to Remember.
>>
>> Artists:
>> -Murat
>> -Antwon Faulkner
>> -Kenny Glasgow
>> -Bliss
>> -HD Substance
>> -Greg Gow
>> -Dru Ruiz
>> -Derrick Ramirez (Dez) & Fred Ortencio
>> -Jeff Wallace
>>
>> In collaboration with:
>> -Detor Productions
>> -Good Company
>> -Blackspace Studios
>> -Hijacked Records
>> -SUB_tl Records
>> -Restructured Recordings
>> -House of Nephilim/Turph
>> -Cultured Citizens
>>
>> The event will be streamed with artists playing from Detroit, Toronto,
>> New York, Oakland, and Madrid from 15:00 to 23:00 ET. For detailed
>> information visit: https://www.facebook.com/events/475680310368311
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Detor
>>
>

Re: New 313-relevant stuff

[kent williams]

Did you stop being THD when you found out about Shawn Rudiman & Ed Vargo's
Industrial band THD?

On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 6:08 PM Brian Boyer  wrote:

> Who is Strand?…indeed. Being somewhat of an authority myself, I can safely
> say that Strand is and and has always been Brian Bonds, Kech and Brian
> Boyer (me). Before that, we were T.H.D. on Serious Grooves. We are from
> Detroit, although there are several other Strands out there that hail from
> different places. We’ve done things a bit low-key over the years, which
> accounts for the uncertainty as to who’s who. I’m glad people are
> interested enough to ask, even if they don’t get it quite right.
>
> Cheers,
> Boyer
>
> On May 13, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Tristan Watkins  wrote:
>
> I'm by no means an authority on Strand, but they had a release on
> Frictional and one of those tracks "Zephyr" was also on the True People
> comp as Kech and B. Bonds back in the day. That was my intro to them in any
> case. It looks like Brian Bonds was replaced by Brian Boyer along the way.
>
> On Thursday, 13 May 2021,  wrote:
>
>> excellent post, thanks for that...I just bought most of those and put
>> some on my wishlist...unfortunately the Kyle Hall vinyl is sold out and no
>> audio previewsdespite me getting hundreds of promos each month I have
>> missed these...313 list to the rescue!
>>
>> OK, at the risk of sounding out of touch...who is Strand...?  it says
>> that they are from Detroit and have been at it since 91..I have the Strand
>> releases on Delsin but I didn't realize they were from Detroit...
>>
>> seems like we are again reaching back to the past to find the
>> futuretime isn't linear anyway, soOK...
>>
>>
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: New 313-relevant stuff
>> From: Tristan Watkins 
>> Date: Mon, May 10, 2021 2:01 pm
>> To: 313 <313@hyperreal.org>
>>
>> Yo.
>>
>> A couple of (313) things I thought people would want to know about.
>>
>> New Strand https://strand313.bandcamp.com/album/silicon
>>
>> Newish Russ Gabriel on Ferox.
>> https://russgabriel.bandcamp.com/album/off-centre. I like his other
>> recent
>> stuff, but this is back on top form for me. Like he is drifting somewhere
>> in between his '00s less techy output (of which I am a huge admirer) and
>> the recent return to techno.
>>
>> Some Nuron releases I'd missed. https://nuron.bandcamp.com/music. There
>> is
>> also a new 2x12" Likemind reissue that I need to pick up before it goes
>> https://www.rubadub.co.uk/records/likemind-06.
>>
>> Placid Angels - Touch the Sky
>> https://figure-music.bandcamp.com/album/touch-the-earth (note, for some
>> reason the digital release is priced much higher at Bandcamp than other
>> stores for some reason I am struggling to fathom).
>>
>> Kyle Hall's MPC Dreams https://kylehall.bandcamp.com/album/mpc-dreams
>>
>> Urban Tribe reissue (which is incredible)
>> https://urbantribe.bandcamp.com/album/urban-tribe
>>
>> Loads of other great stuff about presently, but this was the topical stuff
>> I don't think I've seen mentioned.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tristan
>> https://category.horse
>> Headless Horseman (HC002) releases 21 May
>>
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Re: Headless Horseman

[kent williams]

I certainly remember "Lumina" from waaay back in the day!  Nice one to
finally see this released!

On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 4:27 PM Tristan Watkins  wrote:

> At risk of stepping over self-promo lines, the second release on my new
> label is out today. It's been a long time coming. I first posted one of
> these tracks here fifteen years ago, and these tracks were nearly released
> through a connection on this list, in what would have been an exceptionally
> exciting way. But that all fizzled, they gathered virtual dust, and last
> year I finally decided to start the label to get these tracks out there.
> Hope y'all enjoy. Pretty 313-friendly I feel, but you be the judge.
>
> https://phonopsia.bandcamp.com/album/Headless-Horseman
>
> Other shops and digital places here:
> https://category.horse/headless-horseman/
>
> If anyone is irritated, Jwan told me to be more self-promotional last
> year, so blame him.
>
> Tristan
>

J3ZUZ FVCK THIS IS HORRIBLE

[kent williams]

https://youtu.be/Tc3EPUT_Keo

Re: Attack

[kent williams]

I must not be a  proper techno DJ, because I listen to music and if I like
it, I do my best to figure out how it can work with other music.  Selecting
tracks because their rigid structure makes them easy to mix seems to put
the actual music last in DJing, which is absurd.

And man Omar S. As a production nerd, I can hear MOST of what he's up to on
his tracks but he's always doing something unexpected that nonetheless
works. The kick drum on "Psychotic Photosynthesis" is a good example. You
can hear it by itself in the beginning of the track, and on it's own, it
frankly sounds like shit.  But once he brings other sounds into the mix it
is EXACTLY the right sound for the mix.

And he's one of the best DJs I've ever seen play, not because he does
anything fancy, but because he's an amazing selector. The time I saw him in
a rooftop bar in Greektown, he showed up with no record box, just a stack
of test presses and white labels a foot thick. And everything he dropped
was INSANE.

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 2:01 PM Matt Dubspun 
wrote:

> I find myself forgetting all the time that music is an expression. As a DJ
> we far too often judge a record by structure and if it doesn't measure up
> to the structure of other songs it gets left behind at the store or home
> instead of in our record bags where they belong. The uniformity was
> different back in the 80's where the long blends weren't as prominent. We
> should all be more daring with our selections but it's as if something
> won't let us.
>
> Looking behind the curtain is one of the greatest compliments an artist
> can have. It means that what they have accomplished boggled some minds when
> in most cases it's something simple but unthought of by most. Omar S. is
> who got me back in to producing. I bought one of his first works at a
> distributor that wasn't going to carry it because it didn't fit the mold. A
> little awkward to mix with but once you learned it, it worked out great. I
> stopped obsessing about technicalities and expressed myself.
>
> Much LOVE to Detroit you are all so special to me more than you know!
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 7:07 PM kent williams 
> wrote:
>
>> I think how you look at things like that article depends on your point of
>> view. I'm a musician and fascinated by musical structure & process. So
>> it's a way of thinking about music more analytically, but it doesn't take
>> away from my enjoyment of the music.
>>
>> Plus, analyzing Drexciya just tells you "forget the formula, find your
>> groove, and express it live, even if you're off the grid of conventional
>> dance music."
>>
>> No one can make Drexciya from a simplified recipe.  It doesn't take away
>> from the magic to look behind the curtain.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 6:52 PM Philip McGarva 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I gotta say those ‘deconstructed’ articles kind of depress me but I
>>> guess you gotta keep the content up somehow. I spent years obsessing over
>>> MK’s hi hats and that was much more fun than a 15 minute tutorial 
>>>
>>> Don’t get me started on their logo t-shirts  Is this all we got left?
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: Drexciya by numbers

[kent williams]

I have been actually returning to the 'played live' way of building
tracks.  I don't mention this in the spirit of self-promotion, but because
it's interesting how that kind of live jamming works in electronic dance
music.

Once I'm comfortable with the 'moves' available to me in the arrangement -
mutes, sequence changes, knob tweaks, live playing - the arrangement
becomes free of the grid.  You arrange by listening. You're hearing the
track's arrangement live, and you can intuitively bring things in and out.
Once you can do that, it's really tiresome to arrange Lego blocks in the
DAW timeline.

 Fun to see the Drexciya track analyzed that way. When you listen, you're
in effect "listening over Gerald & James' shoulders." bThey make the final
musical artifact from what was probably hours of programming and tuning of
sounds.  After all that, there are good accidents, and a human lack of
exact timing that opens up the sound.

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 3:24 PM Jason Brunton  wrote:

> The writer really seems to know their stuff and for me what it really says
> is “you probably couldn’t make a track like this because it was done so
> organically and with an undefinable element”….but in a very nice way.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 28 Apr 2021, at 20:59, Daniel Bean  wrote:
>
> 
> I'm in favour.
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 6:57 PM Rob G via 313 <313@hyperreal.org> wrote:
>
>> I think the best way to learn how to write / produce is to start out
>> copying the shit out of your heroes.
>>
>> Yes, that yields derivative results, but originality can come later.
>>
>> In the spirit of this... this is GREAT! <3
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 07:51:36 AM PDT, Alasdair Lyon <
>> aly.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not too sure what to think about this.  I guess this is a techno
>> equivalent of publishing guitar tab in a magazine.
>> Thankfully they haven't included an ableton template to go with it.
>>
>>
>> https://www.attackmagazine.com/technique/deconstructed/drexciya-black-sea/
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: Attack

[kent williams]

I think how you look at things like that article depends on your point of
view. I'm a musician and fascinated by musical structure & process. So
it's a way of thinking about music more analytically, but it doesn't take
away from my enjoyment of the music.

Plus, analyzing Drexciya just tells you "forget the formula, find your
groove, and express it live, even if you're off the grid of conventional
dance music."

No one can make Drexciya from a simplified recipe.  It doesn't take away
from the magic to look behind the curtain.

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 6:52 PM Philip McGarva 
wrote:

> I gotta say those ‘deconstructed’ articles kind of depress me but I guess
> you gotta keep the content up somehow. I spent years obsessing over MK’s hi
> hats and that was much more fun than a 15 minute tutorial 
>
> Don’t get me started on their logo t-shirts  Is this all we got left?
>
>
>

Tammy Lakkis Notice

[kent williams]

A new - to me - Detroit producer.  She makes stripped down Soca-influenced
tracks that mean business.
https://tammylakkis.bandcamp.com/album/notice/

Violet vs Eris Drew - Espirito EP

[kent williams]

I started talking to Violet on twitter because she put out a record by one
of my old Vrave friends Dylan/Ilana Bryne.  But this new one is just lovely
and tough and funky.

Eris Drew is also a great producer and DJ, and played the No Way Back
parties with Mike Servito and others.

To my ears the Detroit influence on this is more Drexciya and Aux88, though
it tilts more into breakbeat territory.

https://naivetrax.bandcamp.com/album/violet-esp-rito-ep-with-eris-drew-remix

Re: Upcoming Metamorphic release

[kent williams]

I had longtime contributors to this list saying they didn't want to be here
any more. I don't judge the choice they made. And maybe I could have been
more proactive at booting people, but I erred on the side of not censoring
people.

And I had someone I never did anything bad to, that I thought was a friend,
but badmouthing me.

My interest & love for Detroit Techno is close to my heart, & I still
maintain this list out of love for it. It's too bad that it's no longer a
place for lively discussion.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021, 8:44 PM Thorin Teague  wrote:

> eh... overblown... a few vocal idiots really aren't the end of the
> world. Although it would benefit the list to moderate such individuals
> more aggressively.
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 11:27 AM kent williams 
> wrote:
> >
> > This is a good release obviously influenced by the Detroit 'lush soulful
> chords' style.
> >
> > I guess now that this list has become a low traffic venue for techno
> opinionating, it's an easier place for artists like Dan Curtin to be here.
> >
> > A lot of artists used to subscribe but have left because of the strife.
> I don't blame them.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 12:25 PM  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello 313 list members,
> >>
> >> Hope all are healthy and happy during this time!  I wanted to share
> with the list the upcoming release on my label Metamorphic, should be
> hitting the stores any day now.  Pretty sure it meets the list criteria and
> Kent gave me the green light to go ahead and share.  It's by a new producer
> from London called Mirror Touch and has a remix on there by myself.  Check
> the Soundcloud link below for the EP, it's gonna be vinyl only for a month
> or so and then will enter the digital realm after that.
> >> Hope you dig!!
> >> ---Dan
> >>
> https://soundcloud.com/metamorphic-recordings/sets/met038-mirror-touch-balancing-ep
> >>
>

Re: Upcoming Metamorphic release

[kent williams]

This is a good release obviously influenced by the Detroit 'lush soulful
chords' style.

I guess now that this list has become a low traffic venue for techno
opinionating, it's an easier place for artists like Dan Curtin to be here.

A lot of artists used to subscribe but have left because of the strife.  I
don't blame them.

On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 12:25 PM  wrote:

> Hello 313 list members,
>
> Hope all are healthy and happy during this time!  I wanted to share with
> the list the upcoming release on my label Metamorphic, should be hitting
> the stores any day now.  Pretty sure it meets the list criteria and Kent
> gave me the green light to go ahead and share.  It's by a new producer from
> London called Mirror Touch and has a remix on there by myself.  Check the
> Soundcloud link below for the EP, it's gonna be vinyl only for a month or
> so and then will enter the digital realm after that.
> Hope you dig!!
> ---Dan
>
> https://soundcloud.com/metamorphic-recordings/sets/met038-mirror-touch-balancing-ep
>
>

Conclave Series Vol 6 Release

[kent williams]

This is a UK label, but the lead track is by Reggie Dokes.  The overall
vibe is acid-tinged and Detroit-inspired.

https://releasesustainrecordings.bandcamp.com/album/conclave-series-vol-6

Re: Interesting doc on Netflix now White Boy

[kent williams]

This interview is really good for a number of reasons: His story, of
course. But the sound of cicadas and wind.  And his accent, which is pure
Detroit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFu4aQ-AUpQ

On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 12:35 AM Thorin Teague  wrote:

> https://youtu.be/ezmQMfrGg2w
>

Re: Ourtime/ SOUR

[kent williams]

"Convextion on Delsin" - I kind of like being 1 degree of separation from
great musicians.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 12:56 AM cnd <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:

> I recall A.Bond piqued interest way back when, D.Ball sounded early
> Weinberg - not necessarily fully formed but I always look out for beauty
> in decay. There's a new Stasis of Vanmannaman's Answer, which sounds
> thought through. Props to Delsin for the under-the-radar Convextion
> remix of Florence. Works well with Leighton studies ;-p
>
> What's Baby Ford been up to? He was always quite prolific..
>
> cheers
>
> On 2021-03-24 09:17, baars wrote:
> > Interesting. Didn't know the label started again (in 2015 discogs
> > tells me). I have the first release by D.Ball from 2002, which is very
> > nice. Well recommended.
> >
> >  I think Alex Bond on this list was involved with this label? But
> > maybe he was just hyping it (i see D Ball did a couple of releases as
> > Sonic Insomniac on New Religion as well).
> >
> >  jurren
> >
> > -
> >
>
> --
> becaus..
>

my bandcamp day release

[kent williams]

Pay what you want. Trying to make 90bpm dub techno happen.
https://chaircrusher.bandcamp.com/album/absinthe-debate

Re: New Sound Signature.

[kent williams]

You forgot to mention this is your record. I love the Tony Allen style
drums and woozy bits. I can see Theo nodding and getting excited hearing
it. It doesn't sound like a Theo record but I can tell you've been studying
on his music! Well done!

On Wed, Feb 10, 2021, 9:13 PM Jason Hogans  wrote:

> Two t’s. Malletts. Oops. Named after a little body of water my family
> lived near for a decade or so. 
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 22:10, Jason Hogans  wrote:
>
>> Mallets Creek EP: https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/jbCywZcPbNwfHH9UA
>>
>

Re: New stuff

[kent williams]

By the by, anything Tristan or Rob posts is ON TOPIC because of who they
are.

Also because they know how to be on a mailing list without being schmucks.


On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 8:39 AM Rob Theakston 
wrote:

>
> 100% agreed on that Rudiman. A great album for daydreaming and motivation.
>
> Will check out that Prekop album. "The Biz" was a staple of my college
> years.
>
> Things in rotation this week: new Storm Queen, old adult., new-ish Nate
> DeYonker, post-Diane Ross Supremes (RIP Miss Mary) and a compilation of
> stuff from an artist named Violet who may not be everyone's cup of tea, but
> I'm certainly enjoying it (h/t Kent).
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 7:46 PM Tristan Watkins 
> wrote:
>
>> Goodness! The list was almost at risk of refocusing on music there for a
>> moment.
>>
>> I also really rate the new Shawn Rudiman and Los Hermanos. Both really
>> nice.
>>
>> A bit leftfield, but Sam Prekop, lead singer of The Sea and Cake (once
>> remixed by Carl Craig, topicality fans), has a newish album out on Thrill
>> Jockey called Comma. It is mostly techo, surprisingly. His solo work has
>> drifted from indy stuff to modular synths and now techno. I had it on the
>> other day and had no idea what this techno album was, and was really
>> surprised to see it was him. https://samprekop.bandcamp.com/album/comma
>>
>> Really rate my first few listens to the new Being album on Firecracker.
>> It was all written in the '90s and compiled from many archives for this
>> release. Well worth your time.
>> https://firecrackerrecordings.bandcamp.com/album/firec030-broxburn-funk
>>
>> Transllusion's Mind Over Positive and Negative Dimensional Matter just
>> got a digital release on Bandcamp from Tresor.
>> https://tresorberlin.bandcamp.com/album/mind-over-positive-and-negative-dimensional-matter
>>
>>
>> And while I have your ear, I haven't yet pimped my first record here yet,
>> so will wedge that in here.
>> https://phonopsia.bandcamp.com/album/horse-time (also available for
>> pre-order now in a few stores ). Releases 26 Feb. The first three releases
>> are done. Pretty pleased with this new track that will wind up on the
>> fourth release in due course, if you fancy a preview.
>> https://soundcloud.com/phonopsia/fourth-phalanx
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tristan
>>
>

Re: Theorem (M_nus), 29 May 2000, DEMF

[kent williams]

The thing is, Charles has been on the list a long time & was never a
problem before. I've no idea what his damage is. He stopped making sense.
Oh well.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2021, 6:18 PM Nathan Goode  wrote:

> Thank you!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 9 Feb 2021, at 5:13 am, kent williams  wrote:
>
> 
> This just in: Fuck off. You're banned.
>
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 8:07 AM Matahari-Inc Magazine <
> matahari-...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>
>> And relevance to list being? Perhaps Kent could stop pming me and reply
>> to list like a gentleman?
>>
>> MH
>>
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail mobile
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>>
>>  Original Message 
>> On 3 Feb 2021, 18:59, Thorin Teague < thor.tea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Its all secretly a performance art Borat trolling thing
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021, 10:03 AM Matahari-Inc Magazine <
>> matahari-...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think this list is a j/k
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from ProtonMail mobile
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>>>
>>>
>>>  Original Message 
>>> On 2 Feb 2021, 17:37, Thorin Teague < thor.tea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I think Mr. Theakston was making a joke
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, 11:12 PM Chaah.Lee <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wait.. isn't little miss Bounty Hunter gonna explain??
>>>>
>>>> On 2021-01-07 15:38, Rob Theakston wrote:
>>>> > Never heard of him.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:37 AM dubloop  wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> for the nostalgics i fell on this:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> the quality is very low but its still pretty nice to me to hear how
>>>> >> he was playing live back then.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> https://soundcloud.com/tthings/theorem-2000-demf-detroit-electronic-music-festival
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> peace!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> pertin-nce.bandcamp.com [1]
>>>> >> the-end-is-near.bandcamp.com [2]
>>>> >> soundcloud.com/bleupulp [3]
>>>> >> soundcloud.com/maxime-tanguay [4]
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Links:
>>>> > --
>>>> > [1] http://pertin-nce.bandcamp.com
>>>> > [2] http://the-end-is-near.bandcamp.com
>>>> > [3] http://soundcloud.com/bleupulp
>>>> > [4] http://soundcloud.com/maxime-tanguay
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> becaus..
>>>>
>>>

Re: Theorem (M_nus), 29 May 2000, DEMF

[kent williams]

This just in: Fuck off. You're banned.

On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 8:07 AM Matahari-Inc Magazine <
matahari-...@protonmail.com> wrote:

> And relevance to list being? Perhaps Kent could stop pming me and reply to
> list like a gentleman?
>
> MH
>
>
> Sent from ProtonMail mobile
>
>
>
>  Original Message 
> On 3 Feb 2021, 18:59, Thorin Teague < thor.tea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Its all secretly a performance art Borat trolling thing
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021, 10:03 AM Matahari-Inc Magazine <
> matahari-...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think this list is a j/k
>>
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail mobile
>>
>>
>>
>>  Original Message 
>> On 2 Feb 2021, 17:37, Thorin Teague < thor.tea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I think Mr. Theakston was making a joke
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, 11:12 PM Chaah.Lee <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Wait.. isn't little miss Bounty Hunter gonna explain??
>>>
>>> On 2021-01-07 15:38, Rob Theakston wrote:
>>> > Never heard of him.
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:37 AM dubloop  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> for the nostalgics i fell on this:
>>> >>
>>> >> the quality is very low but its still pretty nice to me to hear how
>>> >> he was playing live back then.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> https://soundcloud.com/tthings/theorem-2000-demf-detroit-electronic-music-festival
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> peace!
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> pertin-nce.bandcamp.com [1]
>>> >> the-end-is-near.bandcamp.com [2]
>>> >> soundcloud.com/bleupulp [3]
>>> >> soundcloud.com/maxime-tanguay [4]
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Links:
>>> > --
>>> > [1] http://pertin-nce.bandcamp.com
>>> > [2] http://the-end-is-near.bandcamp.com
>>> > [3] http://soundcloud.com/bleupulp
>>> > [4] http://soundcloud.com/maxime-tanguay
>>>
>>> --
>>> becaus..
>>>
>>

Re: Theorem (M_nus), 29 May 2000, DEMF

[kent williams]

If you think it's a joke please unsubscribe.

Your posts are either non-sequiturs or unfunny, or both.

It isn't what it was in 1999, for sure, but you're not telling anyone
anything we don't already know.


On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 9:03 AM Matahari-Inc Magazine <
matahari-...@protonmail.com> wrote:

> I think this list is a j/k
>
>
> Sent from ProtonMail mobile
>
>
>
>  Original Message 
> On 2 Feb 2021, 17:37, Thorin Teague < thor.tea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I think Mr. Theakston was making a joke
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, 11:12 PM Chaah.Lee <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:
>
>> Wait.. isn't little miss Bounty Hunter gonna explain??
>>
>> On 2021-01-07 15:38, Rob Theakston wrote:
>> > Never heard of him.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 10:37 AM dubloop  wrote:
>> >
>> >> for the nostalgics i fell on this:
>> >>
>> >> the quality is very low but its still pretty nice to me to hear how
>> >> he was playing live back then.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> https://soundcloud.com/tthings/theorem-2000-demf-detroit-electronic-music-festival
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> peace!
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> pertin-nce.bandcamp.com [1]
>> >> the-end-is-near.bandcamp.com [2]
>> >> soundcloud.com/bleupulp [3]
>> >> soundcloud.com/maxime-tanguay [4]
>> >
>> >
>> > Links:
>> > --
>> > [1] http://pertin-nce.bandcamp.com
>> > [2] http://the-end-is-near.bandcamp.com
>> > [3] http://soundcloud.com/bleupulp
>> > [4] http://soundcloud.com/maxime-tanguay
>>
>> --
>> becaus..
>>
>

Re: Shawn Rudiman "Flow State" album

[kent williams]

No need to apologize to me. Music with universal appeal rarely has any
lasting value.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 1:32 AM Matahari-Inc Magazine <
matahari-...@protonmail.com> wrote:

> Just not feeling this Kent.
>
> Sorry
>
> --
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mata_Hari
>
>
> Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com> Secure Email.
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> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 9:03 PM, kent williams <
> chaircrus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> While there's plenty of lush, original ambient tracks on this record,
> there's also "Cloud Lake Hotel" which is a slinky, lush techno banger. The
> bassline on that one track may be the best I've heard in years.  Reminds me
> a lot of Shake's techno/house joints.
>
> https://itma.bandcamp.com/album/flow-state
>
>

Shawn Rudiman "Flow State" album

[kent williams]

While there's plenty of lush, original ambient tracks on this record,
there's also "Cloud Lake Hotel" which is a slinky, lush techno banger. The
bassline on that one track may be the best I've heard in years.  Reminds me
a lot of Shake's techno/house joints.

https://itma.bandcamp.com/album/flow-state

Video from First DEMF

[kent williams]

absolute baby DJ Bone, Carlos Souffront, Liz Copeland, DJ Spooky,  Bill Van
Loo (in the background!) and many others!
https://vimeo.com/496552789?fbclid=IwAR13lp4rX7qqfBcD-7DHghErfFM8KTasbkhRpY4J_ihJ4L3tFOSHF_3XguE

New Los Hermanos vinyl

[kent williams]

More great Gerald Mitchell productions with collaborators Bob Rogue &
William Beaver, amazing cover art as well.
https://loshermanosdetroit.bandcamp.com/album/another-day-binary-funk-infusion-let-love-live-4

Rob Hood Interview with Ash Lauryn

[kent williams]

https://www.beatportal.com/features/cover-story-robert-hood-thinks-techno-is-losing-its-soul/

Rob also just released a new album "Mirror Man" in November.  He never
disappoints me, definitely one of the most prolific and original producers
in techno.
https://rekids.bandcamp.com/album/mirror-man

Troy Rutofske ep

[kent williams]

I didn't know Troy but he was a fixture of the Detroit Techno scene who
died of leukemia. During his illness he taught himself how to program a
Roland TR-8s in order to make this track. With remixes from Derek
Plaslaiko, Magda & Carl Craig.
https://valence3.bandcamp.com/album/val-013-first-last

Derrick May: The other shoe drops

[kent williams]

I have serious reservations about how Michael James has handled his part of
the story.  I am glad that DJ Mag has done the work to separate this issue
from Michael James. James has other grievances with Derrick May that
colored people's reaction to his allegations.

https://djmag.com/longreads/multiple-women-report-sexual-assault-and-harassment-derrick-may

Re: New CC/MVO on Planet e

[kent williams]

Something happened to Carl Craig along the way.  He's always tried to keep
things simple, which I approve of.  Lately though it's gotten to where his
simplicity sounds like every trust fund kid in Berlin who's trying to make
something that sounds like peak hour Berghain.

Moritz Von Oswald takes the component parts of Craig's cookie cutter techno
and runs them through his dub process, which is more interesting.  Craig
asks "what's the absolute least I can get away with?"  and Von Oswald says
"how can I filter & mutate this to the point it is a living breathing beast
I'm barely in control of?"

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 1:06 PM dubloop  wrote:

> Moritz's  version sounds pretty cool .
>
> the other version leaves me empty inside
>
> Le 2020-10-20 13:01, John Sokolowski a écrit :
>
>
> https://www.juno.co.uk/products/carl-craig-moritz-von-oswald-attenuator/794132-01/
>
> It is not every day that you see a new Carl Craig/Moritz Von Oswald collab
> on Planet e!
>
>
>
> --
> pertin-nce.bandcamp.comthe-end-is-near.bandcamp.comsoundcloud.com/bleupulpsoundcloud.com/maxime-tanguay
>
>

Re: Still on?

[kent williams]

I met Tristan Watkins at West Music in Coralville, Iowa, where he was in
the process of purchasing his first synths & samplers.  He'd decided he
wanted to make techno and was there to grab whatever he could to make that
happen.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 9:51 AM Tristan Watkins  wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Pleased to see the madness has died down here. Sad to see the lack of
> activity. Still trying to keep abreast of the new Detroit stuff. New
> Moodymann, the recent John Beltran releases, and the Reggie Dokes remix of
> Teyana Taylor (really superb) have been doing it for me lately. Also a bit
> immersed in Gamelan presently. Send tips offline if you have any.
>
> Putting my head above water to remind myself if this actually works when I
> post from Gmail (rather than the bounces I get normally), and to quickly
> mention I have a handful of new tracks up on Soundcloud if you're
> interested https://soundcloud.com/phonopsia
>
> Tristan (super-secretive stealth self-promo expert)
>

Stefan Ringer + Ash Lauryn "Expressions EP"

[kent williams]

Detroit DJ, producer & journalist Ash Lauryn collaborates with Stefan
Ringer on a heads down Detroit-style house record.  It makes me sad that
clubs aren't happening now, because "Let's Get The Rhythm of the Beat" has
such potential to be a dance floor favorite. Hope when things open up again
I get to hear this on a big system with all my friends at once.

https://fwmentertainment.bandcamp.com/album/expressions-ep

Carbinax:: Gone To Ground

[kent williams]

If you like all the various threads of Detroit dance music, This album is
not just one thing - the opener :Alka Cypher has one of those jumpy Kenny
Larkin melodies, but is layered with various digital effects for variety.
"Unstoppable" has Drexciya's fingerprints all over it, but also has some
digital wackiness that's very 2020. "303 Unique" has the acid squiggles,
but again, there's plenty of reckless, wacky breakdowns full of outlandish
effects.

If Techno is - as has been said - about the future, this is music that
builds on tradition but finds ways to look forward.

https://carbinax.bandcamp.com/album/gone-to-ground

Vanity Press and Detroit

[kent williams]

Vanity Press has showcased the current up-and-coming artists (including
Huey Mnemonic).  But there is a warrant just gone out for the arrest of
owner David Marroquin for battery and domestic violence. The abused posting
about this has unleashed a torrent from those involved financially about
ongoing irregularities with the label.

>From twitter - from the Vanity Press official account no less - "Hi I'm
Molly De Wind, Dave's mysterious girlfriend. 3 weeks ago your friend Dave
beat me so bad that I had to get reconstructive surgery on my cheek and
nose and I'll never look the same."

A lot of the artists on Vanity Press have distanced themselves from
Marroquin, including Huey Mnemonic. There's no indication he, or any other
of the people released on that label knew Marroquin was capable of that.

As with many other abusers, one wonders if people knew he was capable of
something like this. When someone gets some share of power in a scene,
people have to have some courage to come out and talk about their misdeeds.

As has been seen with David Morillo. People knew.

CDM feature on Detroit Techno.

[kent williams]

Ash Lauryn again, with bunch of information and sound samples, notably Huey
Mnemonic.

There's actually a LOT going on with younger producers in Detroit.

https://cdm.link/2020/09/go-read-and-listen-to-ash-lauryn-from-atlanta-to-the-world-black-and-underground/

Re: surprise Moodymann rx

[kent williams]

That Dua Lipa remix album was curated by The Bl* Madonna.  and also
includes a Mr. Fingers remix.

The Blessed Madonna remix of Levitating is good, to my ears. If you listen
to the original you can hear how she stripped away layers of studio gloss,
and then added in a great Moog bassline and spiky synth ostinato.

Aside from the Moodymann, Mr. Fingers, & Blessed Madonna remixes there's
not much there that speaks to me.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 10:36 AM Andrew Duke 
wrote:

> This morning something was playing on my partner's cell that sure sounded
> like Moodymann (not an artist I hear in the apartment unless I am playing).
> Asked and was shown the album playing: yes, indeed, he has remixed Dua
> Lipa. It is on her new release and whereas the other songs are very short
> and abruptly segued, Moody's remix of "Break My Heart" is last and gets to
> stretch out at 6min11secs so likely the full rx and not an edit. While he
> has certainly remixed a few other vocalists since Norma Jean Bell and Jose
> James, this one is likely going to end up reaching the most ears since his
> official 2012 remix of that Lana Del Rey's "Born To Die".
> Andrew
>
>

Re: Plug

[kent williams]

Lovely music. It wasn't clear to me who the producer is on this release, is
it you Philip?

On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 6:27 AM Philip McGarva 
wrote:

> Funsters
>
> The first release from my little label will shortly be available from
> 313-friendly UK and European stores. Order now to avoid disappointment!
> Mine, that is.
>
> https://cachetrecordings.bandcamp.com/releases
>
>
>

Re: Business techno & Detroit 313 list

[kent williams]

Don't worry, the main grief-giver is gone, likely hunkered down in their
Ypsi spite-bunker, telling anyone who'll listen how lame this e-mail list
is.

Frankie Hutchinson is right on, and more than just her words. The focus of
Discwoman (on women/nonbinary/people of color) created careers for new,
unique voices in dance music, and she's had to deal with a lot of dragging
from people who can't handle the idea of people other than white men
calling the shots.

The world of dance music has room for all sorts of people, even white men
;-) but it's clear that the black erasure needs to stop. And the people
feeling attacked over this issue need to open their ears. When
under-represented (and underpaid) artists & DJs are given a chance, they
enlarge and deepen the music.  The whole idea that 'affirmative action' is
reverse racism is so stupid.  What happens when an effort is made to
include the underrepresented? It exposes whole worlds of talented artists
that were previously ignored.

So this thread so far is 3 white guys talking, so I'm going to shut up now.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 9:30 PM Andrew Duke 
wrote:

> [I am still shaking my head about the extended insanity that erupted on
> this list the last time I shared a link to dweller (their Juneteeth post
> compiling a listing of 60 articles related to techno's black history.) Not
> in a mood to be trifled with. Do some deep research before you give me
> grief again about my posts aiming to inform and possibly start discussions
> done with respect. Black is spelled "black" in their posts (likely stylized
> lowercase presentations) and I am posting this (below) verbatim. Ash Lauryn
> has written for them. Her sister, The AM, is one of the best new DJs out
> there. And yesteday I literally deleted all music from and related to Kevin
> Saunderson, Juan Atkins, Terrence Dixon, and Scan 7 from my collection.
> Those artists have been HUGE for me, some for 32+ years, but I am not
> interested in supporting artists who do not truly support women in a world
> already full of so many challenges. Check my Facebook if you want more info
> about how I feel. Check Jeff Mills' FB page where people fell over
> themselves yesterday to like the sharing of a June 11 article that trotted
> out more B3 repetition and failed to, once again, acknowledge women. Not
> leaving the list, but getting tired of little effort being made to provide
> what this list could be if more contributed. There are so many talented
> voices here who remain silent. Debate earnestly with diplomacy; take a deep
> breath and reread before you post, though: the internet is forever. Andrew
> Duke
> "Dweller electronics
> writings from a black perspective
>
> Posted on August 18, 2020
> business techno matters: how those who have the most sacrifice the least
> by frankie decaiza hutchinson"
>
> https://dwellerforever.blog/2020/08/18/business-techno-matters-how-those-who-have-the-most-sacrifice-the-least/
>

Re: blast from the past : Pertin 34 - Andrew Duke - Version Redux Part 1

[kent williams]

Is this going to be on the pertin-nce Bandcamp? The Beatport site came up
saying I wasn't in the right region!

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 5:27 PM dubloop  wrote:

> yeah so i got my self Soundcloud pro and i am trying to upload music on a
> regular basis.
>
> today its Andrew Duke's LP: Pertin 54 : Version Redux Part 1
>
> track listing :
>
> 1 - Andrew Duke - Too Many Lights (Area Long Summer Edit)
> 2 - Andrew Duke - Careto (Dub Technique remix)
> 3 - Andrew Duke - Careto (Stefanos K remix)
> 4 - Andrew Duke - Used & Abused (Chaircrusher remix)
> 5 - Andrew Duke - Dehydration (Detroit People Mover remix)
> 6 - Andrew Duke - Anabolic Catabolic (Hemiptera Pesticide Edit)
> 7 - Andrew Duke - Corvus (Monkey Harris remix)
>
> stream :
> https://soundcloud.com/pertin-nce/sets/pertin-34-andrew-duke-version
>
> buy: https://www.beatport.com/release/versions-redux-part-1/192898
>
>
>
> ciao!
>
>
>

Re: DeepChord history video on Dub Monitor

[kent williams]

That was the year that Deep Chord, Mad Professor, Stewart Walker, and
Titonton Duvante played. Titonton brought a string quartet!


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 5:02 PM John Sokolowski 
wrote:

> Whenever a new DeepChord record came out, Huck always had it taking up
> prime real estate on the wall at Record Time.
>
> Huck was also on the artist selection committee for the 2002 DEMF. If I
> had to guess, he is the one who booked DeepChord to play what I think was
> their first live set ever at the festival that year.
>
> On Jul 17, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Andrew Duke 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for letting us know about this. Great to see the details included
> and especially happy to see the love given to our dearly-departed Huck.
> Andrew
>
> On Fri., Jul. 17, 2020, 6:35 p.m. dubloop,  wrote:
>
>> lovely video about DeepChord & stuff Detroit
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=265Rrb3KoSE=youtu.be
>>
>>
>>
>> p >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: WaPo article about blackness & techno

[kent williams]

The thing about solving problems is that you do what you can do.  Projects
like House of Altr do what they can: showcase and promote black artists.

Techno - and the wider world of dance music - originates in the music of
Black americans. What black audiences listen to is a separate matter.  They
may be more likely to connect with techno if they see people that look like
them up on stage.

Labels and promoters CAN address the problem black erasure in dance music.
It's more an issue in Europe than the US, since in the US dance music is
less of a commercial phenomenon, but even here, white artists crowd out
Black music.

You are right that when DEMF was free, it re-introduced techno to Black
Detroiters.  I think Paxahau is doing a decent job, but the fact that the
festival is now an expensive ticket excludes a large audience who are
economically distressed.  With the $200+ ticket price for the weekend, it's
absurd to think that the festival is even for the Black citizens of Detroit
any more.

And not to put too fine a point on it, the subscribers to this list are
overwhelming middle class white people.  At this point this is not a place
to go to get a Black perspective on anything. Is this list still worthwhile
and relevant?


On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:00 AM David A. Powers  wrote:

> Still, the idea that you can fix the problem of diversity on the
> producer/performer side, without increasing the diversity of the audience
> itself, seems super sketchy to me.
>

Re: WaPo article about blackness & techno

[kent williams]

MOMA Ready is an artist alias, and has nothing to do with the Museum of
Modern Art.

>> If the audience for techno became more diverse, I think it's reasonable
to assume that it would
>> organically increase the diversity of DJ's and producers who decide to
participate
>> in making this type of music.

This article - and the impetus behind projects like this - is to center
black artists.  The diversity of the audience is a different question.
People will listen to what speaks to their condition.  Representation
matters.

On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 9:40 AM David A. Powers  wrote:

> First of all, I'm sure the artists on here are making cool music. Will
> listen later.
>
> But, this article and all similar articles are so out of touch and elitist
> it's ridiculous. Let me lay it out very simply
> 1. Very few black communities in the US have embraced techno, it is not
> commonly perceived in the US as being a part of black culture by either
> blacks or whites.
> 2. We live in a class society that weaponizes racism, so that if you are
> black, you are less likely to be wealthy than if you are white.
> 3. This article focuses on an event produced by the MUSEUM OF MODERN ART;
> which due to the demographic reality listed above, is probably not
> something that is in any way accessible or interesting to black working
> class people (or any working class people). Honestly most MOMA shit sucks
> and ordinary people can see that better than many of our wealthy elite who
> have been brainwashed by years of conceptual art bullshit.
> 4. If you actually want to make techno more diverse, it has to begin with
> presenting the music in ways that ordinary folks can relate to and access
> and enjoy. A great example of what I mean is the Underground Resistance
> cabaret parties that they threw in Detroit. That's what bringing techno to
> ordinary folks looks like; another example is the original DEMF when it was
> free and tons of families were dancing with ravers. Techno should be for
> everyone, not just for the elites who read WaPo and go to MOMA events!
> 5. Basically, my point is this: If the audience for techno became more
> diverse, I think it's reasonable to assume that it would organically
> increase the diversity of DJ's and producers who decide to participate in
> making this type of music.
>
> *To be clear, I am personally very glad that Jeff Mills has done stuff
> with museums and orchestras, and I don't have a problem with techno events
> in museums per se, but to think that this has anything to do with
> addressing some kind of racial disparity within the techno scene itself is
> ludicrous.
>
> ~David
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 8:59 AM kent williams 
> wrote:
>
>> Speaking as an "elderly white man from Iowa" - as a certain erstwhile
>> list member's described me - this is important.
>>
>> Centering black music producers isn't some sort of undeserved
>> 'affirmative action.' It brings to the front artists who make essential,
>> lively, emotionally honest music. If we wait for the 'meritocracy' of the
>> dance music industry, they won't be heard.
>>
>>
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/a-new-generation-of-black-artists-are-reclaiming-the-roots-of-techno-music/2020/07/08/68c8edb2-c11c-11ea-b4f6-cb39cd8940fb_story.html
>>
>>
>> The compilation mentioned at the top is fantastic.
>> https://hausofaltr.bandcamp.com/album/hoa010
>>
>> As is the Physically Sick compilation, which has artists in common
>> with  HOA010.
>> https://physicallysick3.bandcamp.com/album/physically-sick-3
>>
>

WaPo article about blackness & techno

[kent williams]

Speaking as an "elderly white man from Iowa" - as a certain erstwhile list
member's described me - this is important.

Centering black music producers isn't some sort of undeserved 'affirmative
action.' It brings to the front artists who make essential, lively,
emotionally honest music. If we wait for the 'meritocracy' of the dance
music industry, they won't be heard.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/a-new-generation-of-black-artists-are-reclaiming-the-roots-of-techno-music/2020/07/08/68c8edb2-c11c-11ea-b4f6-cb39cd8940fb_story.html


The compilation mentioned at the top is fantastic.
https://hausofaltr.bandcamp.com/album/hoa010

As is the Physically Sick compilation, which has artists in common
with  HOA010.
https://physicallysick3.bandcamp.com/album/physically-sick-3

More on bandcamp : Music For the NAACP

[kent williams]

Detroit Content: A dope Todd Osborn track.
Not Detroit but def. Detroit flavor, Kink's Machine Funk. The Detroit DNA
has been spread as far as Bulgaria!

This compilation is a benefit for the NAACP

https://runningbackrecords.bandcamp.com/album/music-for-the-naacp

New DJ Bone Track on Physically Sick 3 Benefit compilation

[kent williams]

Kind of a departure if you are used to Bone's banging techno. Lush chords
and Drexciyan FM Synth bubbles, and more of a breakbeat piece than 4 to
floor kick techno. The other tracks on the compilation are all over the
place from noise experimentation to more dance music from current up &
comers like SHYBOI, MoMa Ready, UMFANT, CCL, and Swisha.

https://physicallysick3.bandcamp.com/

Administrativa - I'm back in full control...

[kent williams]

... with respect to being able to manipulate the list.  Now's the time to
send me DIRECT e-mails with any questions or problems, since I might
actually be able to solve them again.

On the subject of Detroit-influenced techno this new Shawn Rudiman album is
fantastic. Lush, melodic, emotional music by someone who's been involved
with Detroit dance culture going back to his first release on 7th City.

https://itma.bandcamp.com/album/conduit

Re: ADMIN REMINDER

[kent williams]

I haven't been ignoring it. I've decoded the dead language of EZMLM remote
administration, and cast a few powerful spells.

In the answer to your question - maybe it was rhetorical - some people are
just bullies.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 8:20 AM The Archiver 
wrote:

> Why is the this being ignored?
>
> · List subscribers are people, treat them as such, disrespectful
> and disruptive behavior will not be tolerated.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 01 July 2020 14:16
> *To:* list 313 <313@hyperreal.org>
> *Subject:* ADMIN REMINDER
>
>
>
> Back in the good old days the admin would send out a monthly reminder.
> These are the good old days.
>
> *Regarding Content and Community*
>
> 313 content is not moderated and never will be, therefore we rely on 313
> list members to 'self-police' 313. After twenty plus years 313 has become a
> community and should be thought of as such. Like any community (Detroit
> included) 313 is only as strong as every member makes it. In that spirit we
> ask you respect the following principles:
>
>- Spam is strictly prohibited, 313 list subscribers are not marketing
>fodder.
>- List subscribers are people, treat them as such, disrespectful and
>disruptive behavior will not be tolerated.
>- List members are here for a reason, keep your posts on topic, using
>313 as a chat room is not permitted. Please note placing 'OT', standing for
>off-topic, or 'NRR', standing for not really relevant, in the subject line
>in no way excuses you from adhering to this rule.
>- Do not attempt to steal another list subscribers email identity
>(and, yes, this has happened).
>- Do not repost private email to 313. Likewise do not reply to private
>email and 'CC' 313. This is both illegal (falling under the reproduction of
>an original copyrighted work without permission) and highly unethical.
>Arguments belong in private email, not in email that is addressed to 313,
>check your *'To: '* and *'CC: '* email header fields carefully before
>sending out email - it may save you more embarassment than you thought
>possible.
>
>

ADMIN REMINDER

[kent williams]

Back in the good old days the admin would send out a monthly reminder.
These are the good old days.

*Regarding Content and Community*

313 content is not moderated and never will be, therefore we rely on 313
list members to 'self-police' 313. After twenty plus years 313 has become a
community and should be thought of as such. Like any community (Detroit
included) 313 is only as strong as every member makes it. In that spirit we
ask you respect the following principles:

   - Spam is strictly prohibited, 313 list subscribers are not marketing
   fodder.
   - List subscribers are people, treat them as such, disrespectful and
   disruptive behavior will not be tolerated.
   - List members are here for a reason, keep your posts on topic, using
   313 as a chat room is not permitted. Please note placing 'OT', standing for
   off-topic, or 'NRR', standing for not really relevant, in the subject line
   in no way excuses you from adhering to this rule.
   - Do not attempt to steal another list subscribers email identity (and,
   yes, this has happened).
   - Do not repost private email to 313. Likewise do not reply to private
   email and 'CC' 313. This is both illegal (falling under the reproduction of
   an original copyrighted work without permission) and highly unethical.
   Arguments belong in private email, not in email that is addressed to 313,
   check your *'To: '* and *'CC: '* email header fields carefully before
   sending out email - it may save you more embarassment than you thought
   possible.

Re: Hi. I made another record...and an interview...

[kent williams]

I bought the Throatcrush EP and it's some of my favorite hard techno. Kevin
has put the years in to find his unique voice in straight-ahead dark
techno.

The point of minimal hard techno isn't that there's a formula you can
follow.  There is.  Anyone can follow the formula.

The point is to transcend the formula. Kevin does that.  The world didn't
need another Rob Hood - something a 1000 producers on Beatport try to be.
The world does need producers like Kevin.
https://philippepetit.bandcamp.com/album/knotweed-records-036-throatcrush-e-p


On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 1:10 PM Kevin Kennedy  wrote:

> Hi all remaining on the list...
>
> Here's a couple of links to share with you of my most recent record that
> came out last week.
> https://soundcloud.com/knotweed-records/kw036-fbk-throatcrush-ep
> Buy links are in the description.  One currently remains for sale on
> Bandcamp.
>
> Also, Peter Kirn of CDM did an interview with me, and it may be the most
> extensive of my career.  Also filled with links to some of my other recent
> works:)
>
> https://cdm.link/2020/06/fbk-techno-interview/
>
> If you have trouble identifying whether or not this is '313 related,'  I
> would suggest reading my interview first, as it tells a portion of the
> story of my affiliation with Detroit and the Techno scene in general.
>
>
> --
> FBK
>
> Absoloop/Orange 82
>

Re: Dopplereffekt

[kent williams]

Great news, and I love the one preview track.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 4:05 PM Mario De Block  wrote:

> digitally available from July 19th:
> https://wemerecords.bandcamp.com/album/linear-accelerator-weme31327
> 
> Linear Accelerator WeMe313.27, by Dopplereffekt
> 
> 6 track album
> wemerecords.bandcamp.com
>
> (2lp pre-order is sold out,
>
> https://wemerecords.com/shop/dopplereffekt-linear-accelerator-2lp-crystal-clear-vinyl-pre-order/
> )
>
> Mario
>
> --
> *Van:* John Sokolowski 
> *Verzonden:* maandag 29 juni 2020 22:58
> *Aan:* list 313 <313@hyperreal.org>
> *Onderwerp:* Mike Huckaby - From The Mind Of S Y N T H mix
>
> Here is a Mike Huckaby mix for those interested. It is from a mix CD
> released in Japan. Enjoy!
>
>
> https://www.mixcloud.com/Electro_Daddy/mike-huckaby-from-the-mind-of-s-y-n-t-h/
>
>

What this list is and isn't about

[kent williams]

1. Detroit techno music
2. Detroit house music
3. Music inspired by Detroint techno and house music
4. Ghettotech & Jit.
5. The people who make 1-4
6. The social and political context of 1-5

What it isn't about:
1. Any individual list member unless they're in #5 above
2. The list admin.

Since you're coming for me in particular.
0. "Corn music" - are you having a laugh?
1. "With all due respect" is a euphemism for "You supreme bell-end" "No
offense" means "I'm going to be offensive."
2. I have made 3 albums and several EPs and I generally don't bring them up
here. While I count Detroit music as a huge influence, my music has
diverged from anything that could be called techno, so I've made myself
off-topic.
3. I have the job of list administrator (not moderator) because no one else
wanted it.  I do the best I can and if you don't like it, unsubscribe. I
posted instructions on how to do so the other day in the spirit of "Let me
google that for you."
4. Do you mean "Langer" as in slang for penis?   That comment seems out of
order on several levels.


On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 5:52 AM cnd <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:

> I'm with Kevin and Denise on this one.
>
> This is a list about dark black music and rhythm control. With all due
> respect, a single mod who makes corn music doesn't really cut in
> politically.
>
> Noi offense Eamonn but at least Denise has a langer ;-)
>
> cheers
>
> C
>
>
>

Re: I'm back on the list / Sci-fi House / Elbee Bad

[kent williams]

Good to hear from you. What music out of Detroit currently is catching your
ear?

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 7:57 AM Andy Vaz  wrote:

> Hello 313.
>
> i'm back on the list and will be contributing music content again
> regularly, since this is not primerily a war-zone anymore (knock on wood;)
>
> Elbee Bad has a track called "in the sky", something i would define
> Sci-Fi, more on the House than on the Techno Side of things. Aliens,
> Spaceships and all that.
>
> https://youtu.be/sKk0dDXYVXY
>
> (sorry for the shameless self-promotion)
>
> More to come.
>
> Hope everyone is doing well out there!
>
> Andy
>
>
>

Re: D*nise D*lphond

[kent williams]

For everyone who has been asking how to unsubscribe:
http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/02.html

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 9:52 AM cnd <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:

> Unsubscribe link please k*nt?
>
> regards
>
> C
>
> On 2020-06-29 14:34, kent williams wrote:
> > The reason she's still on the list is that since they shut down shell
> > access to Hyperreal.org, I need help from Brian to actually ban
> > someone.
> >
> >> "I’m still on the list. And I love that I have a whole subject
> > named after me."
> > This tells me two things: She wants to be the center of attention at
> > any cost, and she's wilfully ignoring the damage she's done.
>
>

Re: D*nise D*lphond

[kent williams]

The reason she's still on the list is that since they shut down shell
access to Hyperreal.org, I need help from Brian to actually ban someone.

> "I’m still on the list. And I love that I have a whole subject named
after me."
This tells me two things: She wants to be the center of attention at any
cost, and she's wilfully ignoring the damage she's done.

RE: D*nise D*lphond

[kent williams]

If someone still communicates with Denise, tell her she's being
unsubscribed and blocked from this E-Mail list.

She's blocked me so I can't do it myself.  I can't see her Tweets or
Facebook posts either because I'm blocked, but I've had tweets forwarded to
me complaining that it's a list where old white people tell you what you
can listen to, and attacking me specifically.

I have always given list members broad latitude as to what they can post,
I am not the tone police, as Denise has accused me of being.  I've asked
her not to make ad hominem attacks.  Turns out she's not read any of my
private e-mails, so sending them was a waste of my time.

I think that reading the e-mails from the admin is a minimum requirement
for being a member of the list. If you don't like how things are run, you
can unsubscribe.  You can curse me, debate me, whatever, but you do have to
pay attention to me. I promise to contact people privately rarely.

I have always treated Denise with what I thought was a respectful attitude.
I've always credited her for doing a lot of good work in scholarship and
community activism for the Detroit music scene. But that wasn't enough,
apparently.

I wish her well in all her future endeavors, but those endeavors will no
longer include the 313 mailing list.

Going forward, I'm thinking a better way to handle people causing trouble
on the list is to 86 them early and often. Many people who I think were
equally as valuable - or more valuable - to the 313 techno music scene have
unsubscribed because of her.

I'm no longer willing to allow people to hijack this list for whatever
reason. And that doesn't mean I'm going to censor anyone. It does mean you
have to play nice.

Re: the noise level on this list

[kent williams]

MY only real power.

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 3:53 PM kent williams 
wrote:

> As it happens, the only real power in this world is to pass judgement on
> what is considered valid things to post on the 313 list.
>
> I have considered briefs from both sides and I rule in favor of you
> posting whatever the f*ck you want.
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 6:45 PM Kevin Kennedy  wrote:
>
>> Fred, I am both problem and solution.
>>
>> I've gotten to a point where I won't even post my own work up here,or
>> share the works of my contemporaries... mainly because I'm always afraid it
>> won't be 'Detroit' enough.
>>
>> To have a judgement free forum, silence is necessary.
>>
>> I'm not quite ready to shut up.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 5:40 PM Fred Heutte  wrote:
>>
>>> The noise level and disrespect on this list are unbearable.  Check
>>> yourselves and consider: are you part of the problem or are you
>>> part of the solution?
>>>
>>> peace
>>>
>>> fh
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> It was always about the music:
>>> Is it hot or is it not?
>>> -- Electrifying Mojo
>>>
>>>

Re: the noise level on this list

[kent williams]

As it happens, the only real power in this world is to pass judgement on
what is considered valid things to post on the 313 list.

I have considered briefs from both sides and I rule in favor of you posting
whatever the f*ck you want.

On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 6:45 PM Kevin Kennedy  wrote:

> Fred, I am both problem and solution.
>
> I've gotten to a point where I won't even post my own work up here,or
> share the works of my contemporaries... mainly because I'm always afraid it
> won't be 'Detroit' enough.
>
> To have a judgement free forum, silence is necessary.
>
> I'm not quite ready to shut up.
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 5:40 PM Fred Heutte  wrote:
>
>> The noise level and disrespect on this list are unbearable.  Check
>> yourselves and consider: are you part of the problem or are you
>> part of the solution?
>>
>> peace
>>
>> fh
>>
>> ---
>>
>> It was always about the music:
>> Is it hot or is it not?
>> -- Electrifying Mojo
>>
>>

How many folks on the list in the Detroit area?

[kent williams]

There's no geographic limitation to being a techno fan but I'm curious: Who
is left on the list who lives in Detroit, Ann Arbor, Ypsi, & the Detroit
burbs?

Centering black voices in Techno

[kent williams]

In that vein, here is an essay written by Ashleigh Lauryn, a Detroit DJ.
It has to do with the controversy about N*na Kr*viz posting pictures of
herself with cornrows, and Kr*viz tone-deaf reaction to criticism.

But more than that it is a beautifully written essay.
https://undergroundandblack.com/2019/10/29/keeping-it-real/

Re: Fwd: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)

[kent williams]

Jesus wept.

On Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 1:24 AM Denise Dalphond 
wrote:

> I blocked Kent a long time ago, so I had to go to my spam folder to read
> this. Took me a minute. I have no response to Kent directly.
>
>
>>>
>>>

Re: Fwd: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)

[kent williams]

You said it well.

Denise deserves respect and attention.  I've made myself clear in the last
e-mail what I would like to see happen, and now I regret even posting that
on-list.

I'm not going to say any more on this. If anyone wants to e-mail me
directly, I'll read and respond.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 12:25 PM Kevin Kennedy  wrote:

> I rarely chime in on the list but trend towards paying attention when I
> can.
>
> For many, it can be really difficult to cut through the 'noise' that
> happens on a daily basis, as we are 100% inundated with information about
> nearly any and every subject we could be interested in, and some we're not.
>
> Maybe the choice of words "perspective" may have been in some ways
> incomplete/misleading, however the intent was understood by me to be one of
> a noble and humble nature.  Most people don't have the time in their modern
> life to collect all of the reading documents and take the deeper dive
> necessary to understand any subject.  Unfortunately, not all techno people
> are academics-but many are curious, which is a great trait for anyone
> academically-minded.
>
> That said, I LOVE  Dr. Denise, and you all should know that she 'keeps
> that same energy' for EVERYTHING...as Ethnomusicology is also her life's
> work.  If many had as much passion and persistence to rely on, we'd all
> probably do much more than we already do.
>
> Fire and emotional content aren't easy things to channel.  It's taken me
> years to learn how to choose when and where I call out things I don't
> like.  I've recently done an interview with Peter Kirn and while I had some
> opportunity to say whatever I chose, I realized that denigrating people can
> be messy.
>
> DWELLER, as a whole, is a useful resource and may get one more person to
> understand better the history of this music and have a better appreciation
> for what makes it special and influential.  We must all learn together,
> those who haven't learned the story should, and those who are attempting to
> be helpful should be encouraged to find other resources that could be more
> relevant if the ones they share are in some way not.
>
> I'm going to say in closing that we all on this list have a duty to
> understand one another.  We have to come together like buttcheeks instead
> of sniping at each other like the outside world does on a daily basis.
> We're all here on this list for the music first-But we can also learn from
> each other.
>
> I sincerely hope all of you are well.  FBK out.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:34 AM kent williams 
> wrote:
>
>> On the one hand, Denise has valid points.
>>
>> On the other hand she attacks people who have done nothing but good for
>> the Techno community, has never minimized the contribution of black
>> artists, and has never centered themselves in the discussion.
>>
>> Denise, you need to find a way to make the points you want to make
>> without making other people want to leave the 313 list.
>>
>> I've never wanted to silence anyone on this list and have never banned
>> anyone just for being outspoken, but at this point this list is a shadow of
>> its former self, and a lot of it has to do with people posting things that
>> make people feel uncomfortable.  And not the 'questioning my privilege'
>> uncomfortable, like 'being personally attacked without justification'
>> uncomfortable.
>>
>> I don't just see the public posts, I get private e-mails all the time
>> with complaints about other list members.  Those are private, but regular
>> list members only see what's on the list.
>>
>> No one can argue with Denise's contribution to music scholarship dealing
>> with black music, and no one should.
>>
>> But being aggressive and disagreeable on the mailing list makes it about
>> you, not about the music or the people.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:21 AM cnd <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Allgxxd
>>>
>>> I hear you essay
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> On 2020-06-24 14:11, Daniel Bean wrote:
>>> > Whoops sorry, meant to send that to the list.
>>> >
>>> > -- Forwarded message -
>>> > From: DANIEL BEAN 
>>> > Date: Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 2:08 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)
>>> > To: Denise Dalphond 
>>> >
>>> > Have to agree with Denise here, the idea that we can somehow ignore
>>> > race in techno (or any other American music forms for that matter) is
>>> > ludicrous, especially at the moment.
>>> >
>>

Re: Fwd: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)

[kent williams]

On the one hand, Denise has valid points.

On the other hand she attacks people who have done nothing but good for the
Techno community, has never minimized the contribution of black artists,
and has never centered themselves in the discussion.

Denise, you need to find a way to make the points you want to make without
making other people want to leave the 313 list.

I've never wanted to silence anyone on this list and have never banned
anyone just for being outspoken, but at this point this list is a shadow of
its former self, and a lot of it has to do with people posting things that
make people feel uncomfortable.  And not the 'questioning my privilege'
uncomfortable, like 'being personally attacked without justification'
uncomfortable.

I don't just see the public posts, I get private e-mails all the time with
complaints about other list members.  Those are private, but regular list
members only see what's on the list.

No one can argue with Denise's contribution to music scholarship dealing
with black music, and no one should.

But being aggressive and disagreeable on the mailing list makes it about
you, not about the music or the people.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:21 AM cnd <3...@coke-smyth.net> wrote:

> Allgxxd
>
> I hear you essay
>
> Cheers
>
> On 2020-06-24 14:11, Daniel Bean wrote:
> > Whoops sorry, meant to send that to the list.
> >
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: DANIEL BEAN 
> > Date: Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 2:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: Techno links from a Black perspective (fixed)
> > To: Denise Dalphond 
> >
> > Have to agree with Denise here, the idea that we can somehow ignore
> > race in techno (or any other American music forms for that matter) is
> > ludicrous, especially at the moment.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:32 PM Denise Dalphond
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Have you read my dissertation? Your suggestion makes no sense. Did
> >> you know Portia Maultsby was my teacher? Have you seen that chart of
> >> Black music genres floating around IG and FB? She made that.
> >> That’s part of her life’s work. And now, since I got to help her
> >> with it in graduate school, I get to help her update it
> >> professionally. So, s.
> >>
> >> Do you not live in the United States? Do you not understand what is
> >> changing here in the United States? Stop embarrassing yourself.
> >>
> >> And why didn’t you get mad at Andrew Duke for sharing it?
> >>
> >> Denise Dalphond
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:24 AM Sjoerd 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Denise, is there any Social Justice Bandwagon you will not jump on?
> >> For the love of the 808, please refrain from this and find common
> >> ground in the beauty of this music instead of trying to sow division
> >> between people by this racebaiting.
> >>
> >> I think few people care if the writer of the article has a Black or
> >> White skin colour, since what matters is the message, and the
> >> message is T-E-C-H-N-O and Unity between people from all walks of
> >> life.
> >>
> >> Andrew, thanks for posting this. A lot has been written on the
> >> subject of Detroit Techno and I appreciate someone took the time and
> >> effort to collect them all. Seriously, the further we move forward
> >> in time, the more I realize that the future about this technological
> >> dystopia was already written way back in the 80's, with the origins
> >> of Techno in the Motorcity.
> >>
> >> On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 at 16:11, Denise Dalphond
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> A majority of those articles and books are by white people. What do
> >> they mean by Black perspective. You could also go to the Dancecult
> >> website: https://dancecult-research.net/references/
> >>
> >> Denise
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 9:53 AM Andrew Duke
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Dweller Electronics
> >>
> >> writings from a black perspective
> >>
> >> Our co-editor Ryan Clarke has researched a list of articles,
> >> interviews and documentaries about techno and its history. We have
> >> compiled it into this library that will be updated as we find more
> >> relevant work.
> >>
> >> It is organized by date and divided into two lists “Reading” and
> >> “Audio/Visual”.
> >>
> >> https://dwellerforever.blog/library
> >  --
> > Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
> > ethnomusicologist
> > schoolcraftwax.work [1]
> >
> > Links:
> > --
> > [1] http://schoolcraftwax.work
>
>

New Omar S "Booted"

[kent williams]

A little bit of piano house, a little bit of cheeky Supremes sampling, but
the last track 75 is the banger.
https://www.juno.co.uk/products/omar-s-booted/774298-01/?c=603920

New Adult Period: "Perception Is/As/Of Deception"

[kent williams]

Adam at his crunchiest, Nicola at her Siouxsiest!

https://adultmusic.bandcamp.com/album/perception-is-as-of-deception

Paula McPheirson -- still around in Detroit?

[kent williams]

Her discography is really brief.
https://www.discogs.com/Paula-McPheirson-Lift-Me-Up/release/8899

That record is interesting to me, as it's a great example of 90s Detroit
house music, and it's got contributions from Mad Mike, Buzz Goree and Mike
Clark. In addition to Paula McPheirson, there's another obscure
contributor, "R. Deane" who, with Goree and Clark made up "The Blowed
Pimps."

The label Night Groove was Buzz's label. He made 3 Records: "Lift Me Up,"
an Agent-X (Mike Clark) joint called "Groove Tracks Vol. 1" and "Party
Time" by The House Squad (Clark & Goree)

Mike Huckaby GoFundMe for health problems

[kent williams]

This was set up by Delano Smith. He didn't say what sort of health problems
Mike Huckaby has, but Mike's given so much to Detroit - the city, the
children, the music, the culture - if you can afford to help him I know it
will be deeply appreciated.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/lets-help-our-friend-mike-huckaby

Re: Buy/sell records here?

[kent williams]

People should post what they want, but again, we're here for talk about the
music. This isn't discogs marketplace. If you want to post a want list, say
why you want them.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2020, 1:35 AM Ben Bridges  wrote:

> Yep, I would like to place a few want ads occasionally
> On 7/3/2020 7:08 am, Joe Marougi wrote:
>
> Yeah that’s cool.
>
> Not suggesting anyone post endless lists here.
>
> Just for folks to request or present a few here and there that they think
> the list would be interested in or that they are looking for.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 2:38 PM kent williams 
> wrote:
>
>> I think it would be OK to say "hey I've got some good techno records for
>> sale on discogs, here's a link" every so often, but I think the list will
>> be over if people just start using this list as a trading post.
>>
>> Similarly I'm not so crazy about everyone and their dog posting their
>> record wish lists.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 9:00 AM Joe Marougi  wrote:
>>
>>> Wanted to see if we could use this as another alternative to discogs?
>>>
>>> Maybe post some wish lists to see if other members have them as well as
>>> post some titles that we think some members may want?
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
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Re: Buy/sell records here?

[kent williams]

I think it would be OK to say "hey I've got some good techno records for
sale on discogs, here's a link" every so often, but I think the list will
be over if people just start using this list as a trading post.

Similarly I'm not so crazy about everyone and their dog posting their
record wish lists.


On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 9:00 AM Joe Marougi  wrote:

> Wanted to see if we could use this as another alternative to discogs?
>
> Maybe post some wish lists to see if other members have them as well as
> post some titles that we think some members may want?
>
> Joe
>
>

Re: Florence & Wladimir M release on Delsin

[kent williams]

There's a whole web of decent people in Europe -- sometimes rare in the
music business -- and Marsel, Serge from Clone, Stefan from Eevolute, The
Hacker and more who keep the dream alive.

The Eevolute catalog is so good overall. I sent Stefan a couple of Speak &
Spells to circuit bend and he sent back a whole box of Eevolute records,
some pure unobtanium unless you get them from him direct. It's great that
this stuff is getting repressed & re-released.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 1:31 PM Patrick Wacher  wrote:

> Hats off to Mr Delsin for getting these two releases together... music,
> packaging are just spot on.
>
>
> https://www.delsinrecords.com/release/6266/wladimir-m/leaves-fallin-recklessly
> https://www.delsinrecords.com/release/6268/florence/analogue-expressions
>
> Thanks,
> ⌘⌥P
>

Re: techno

[kent williams]

The point of the 313 list is to discuss Detroit techno and related music.

To refer to the FAQ http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/05.html

"Thank you for inquiring about 313. This list was set up by myself to be a
forum for the discussion of Detroit techno artists or artists directly
influenced by Detroit techno artists. That said, it would be no great
coincidence if the list followed the same progression as techno music has.
That is, just as the works of the original Detroiters has provided the
framework on which much of techno music has been built upon so too should
the stated purpose of the list serve as the basis for broader discussion."

This is a quote from George Smiley, not me, as the FAQ states ;-)

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 12:24 PM Joe Marougi  wrote:

> Ok I wasn't going to paste the link to my latest release since the artists
> aren't "technically" not from Detroit, but since Marsel posted his then
> here's mine :-)
>
> (Artists are Ricadro Miranda and James Duncan):
>
> http://www.groovedis.com/shop/james-duncan-and-sb808-morning-mix-12.html
>
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 8:53 AM Andrew Duke 
> wrote:
>
>> Derek Carr and Shawn Rudiman are able to maintain a magical quality level
>> with their quantity of ongoing releases. Inspirational. +1 on the Cignol.
>> So much goodness.
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> On Fri., Feb. 28, 2020, 12:17 p.m. John Sokolowski, <
>> jrsokolow...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hear, hear on the new Derek Carr!
>>>
>>> Also liking the sound of the new one on Distant Worlds (
>>> https://soundcloud.com/distantworldtransmissions/sets/cignol-guidance-release)
>>> - spacey electro acid trip
>>>
>>> 
>>> Cignol - Guidance Release by Distant Worlds | Free Listening on
>>> SoundCloud
>>> 
>>> We use cookies for various purposes including analytics and personalized
>>> marketing. By continuing to use the service, you agree to our use of
>>> cookies as described in the Cookie Policy. OK
>>> soundcloud.com
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From:* jwan allen 
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 28, 2020 8:54 AM
>>> *To:* Ronny Pries 
>>> *Cc:* 313 list <313@hyperreal.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: techno
>>>
>>> Thanks for the tip!
>>>
>>> Also doing it for me, as I'm listening to new shit in another tab, the
>>> New Derek Carr - Pursuit Part 1 and 2 on Sushitech.
>>>
>>> It's fucking fantastic, I know most of y'all are already familiar with
>>> his work form the past releases on too many labels i don't feel the need to
>>> retype here.
>>>
>>> But this album is exactly what we all need to hear and be playing out
>>> right now. Fresh new music with nods to the past, without being overly
>>> derivative.
>>>
>>> 5 1200s, mics, flames or whatever emoji of your choice  you need to
>>> realize this is dope music.
>>>
>>> And before I forget, Shawn Rudiman and Jordan (of juju and jordan fame)
>>> have a release out on local label "love what you feel" out today, now I'm
>>> biased cause these are my mates, but the music speaks for itself.
>>>
>>> Get some! https://itma.bandcamp.com/album/ams-pit-love-what-you-feel-008
>>>
>>> You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming already in
>>> progress.
>>>
>>> Jwan
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 6:57 AM Ronny Pries  wrote:
>>>
>>> What a sweet release!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von: *Marsel Delsin 
>>> *Gesendet: *Freitag, 28. Februar 2020 09:26
>>> *An: *313 list <313@hyperreal.org>
>>> *Betreff: *techno
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> to keep it on-topic - here's some techno
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.delsinrecords.com/release/6495/lost-trax/surface-treated
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Technoir Audio
>>> Broken Planet
>>>
>>> "dealing with your imperfect world"
>>>
>>

Re: Keep it real (and on topic)

[kent williams]

Would be sad to see you go. But it's up to you. Instructions here:
http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/02.html

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 7:59 PM DJ Shiva  wrote:

> "She could have been any of the 100+ genders she probably believes in and
> it wouldn’t matter.  "
>
> Mmmmh, sure Jan. You tell me everything I need to know about your
> attitude toward gender right there.
>
> For the love of my sanity will someone unsubscribe me from this list?
>
> Lisa
> http://www.noncompliantmusic.com
> http://www.soundcloud.com/noncompliant1
> 
> "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I
> can hear her breathing." - Arundhati Roy
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 2:58 PM Joe Marougi  wrote:
>
>> Appreciate the reply Jodie,
>>
>> I’m gonna go out on what I feel is not too far of a limb by saying you’re
>> probably the only one here that sees her “apologies” as not being
>> backhanded.
>>
>> Please don’t deflect by trying to bring in women’s voices etc because
>> that’s not the point we are discussing.  She could have been any of the
>> 100+ genders she probably believes in and it wouldn’t matter.
>>
>> If you can’t see that most here are doing their best to “tolerate” her
>> then I don’t now what to tell you.
>>
>> We shouldn’t have to barely tolerate anyone here.  Especially if they are
>> not at least warned to change their tone.
>>
>> Speaking of Rick, spoke to him today about a conversation around a 3
>> chairs party here in SF.
>>
>> Has everyone here bought my new release yet??
>>  :-)
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 11:42 AM U Design 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I havent chimed in yet, but seeing Joe's email has prompted me to.
>>>
>>> "We tried to respond respectfully at first..." Sorry, but I didn't see
>>> in the emails to Denise that there was much respect being given, not at the
>>> start or throughout.
>>>
>>> She did apologize for how she reacted and people have continued to go
>>> after her.  As for the comment that "if she was a guy she would've been
>>> removed long ago" I have to disagree.  I love Tom Cox and I loved the
>>> heated debates he used to get in.  Him and I had a few as well. I never got
>>> so touchy that I thought he should be removed from the list. Those threads
>>> and debates back then pushed the envelope much farther than any of the
>>> emails I saw by her did.  And in reality, there have been more emails
>>> discussing this than there were that caused this discussion to begin.
>>>
>>> Her contribution to the music is undeniable and rather than just write
>>> her off as being hostile, maybe everyone should take stock as to why and
>>> what pushed her to become hostile in the first place.
>>>
>>> Removing someone that has contributed as much to the musuc as she has
>>> would be a shame.
>>>
>>> Just my 2 cents.  And Joe, I'm pretty sure Marcellus and Rick would
>>> agree with me on this one.  They love the voices of strong opinionated
>>> women in the scene as much as I do.
>>>
>>> *Jodie
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 15:41 Joe Marougi  wrote:
>>>
 So I guess there’s the “two wrongs don’t make a right” argument vs “we
 tried to reply respectfully at first but she keeps replying with hostility
 while trying to justify her tone”

 What I replied earlier that wasn’t copied here in the group was asking
 why Kent would risk losing many for the sake of accommodating one.  Makes
 no sense whatsoever.  There are unwritten rules of conduct in each scenario
 which she’s clearly in violation of.

 Lastly I feel that if she was a dude she’d have been 86’d by now (or at
 least on a last warning regarding her tone).




> > attention:
> > https://undergroundandblack.com/
> >
> > And it's clear there's a lot of emotional upset and personal
> issues
> > that have spilled onto the list.  I don't want to say that's
> not
> > appropriate content, but it should be in the context that
> we're a group of
> > friends, widely dispersed geographically, with something in
> common.. So keep
> > in mind you're talking to a friend, and they deserve respect
> even if you
> > disagree with them.
> >
>  --
> >>> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
> >>> ethnomusicologist
> >>> schoolcraftwax.work
> >>>
> >> --
> > Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
> > ethnomusicologist
> > schoolcraftwax.work
> >
> 
> 
>  --
> 
>  Lerato Khathi
>  http://uzurirecordings.com
>  http://uzuriartistbookingsandmanagement.com
>  http://soundcloud.com/uzuri
>  Skype : Lakuti
> 
> >>> --
> >> Denise Dalphond, Ph. D.
> >> ethnomusicologist
> >> schoolcraftwax.work
> >>
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >Lerato 

Thing NOT to do on the 313 list.

[kent williams]

1. Pile on Denise Dalphond. What ever issues you have with her, complaining
about Denise is not on topic for the 313 list.  Either contact her and work
it out, or let it slide. Or unsubscribe.
2. Announce you're unsubscribing. A simple Irish goodbye is sufficient.
3. Any kind of ad hominem attack on another list member.
4. Appeal to the admin to 'ban X.' Literally, for all X.

This isn't - as the kids say - me sub-tweeting anyone specifically.  Just
me hoping that the list can go on with a modicum of tact and respect, and
above all, on-topic-ness.