RE: (313) Hello 313, I am....
Name: Alexandres Lugo Age: 35 tomorrow Fun birthday fact: Share birthday and used to share lockers with Eric AKA DJ Bone at Cass Tech. City: Fraser, MI (suburb of Detroit, grew up in Detroit, born and lived in Puerto Rico for 10 years) Favorite City: Toss up between Toronto and NYC. Cities lived in: Many (military for 8 years) Favorite radio show: Close tie between Brave New Waves and Mojo. Musical Affiliation: Ultradyne and Vidrio. Cofounder of Pi Gao Movement. http://www.pigaomovement.com Favorite Techno song: Three way tie between No UFOs, Technicolor, and Blow your House Down. Work: Lotus Notes administrator (currently switching to nurse anesthesia). Peace, Alex
Re: (313) Hello 313, I am....
Agreed..I was referring to back in the day when Mojo was just as good as BNW. Detroit radio sucks. Peace, Alex /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/16/2005 09:38 PM To 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject Re: (313) Hello 313, I am brave new waves smokes anything detroit has atm IMO. real future stuff there, nice for the ride home after a late night in detroit - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 7:29 PM Subject: RE: (313) Hello 313, I am Name: Alexandres Lugo Age: 35 tomorrow Fun birthday fact: Share birthday and used to share lockers with Eric AKA DJ Bone at Cass Tech. City: Fraser, MI (suburb of Detroit, grew up in Detroit, born and lived in Puerto Rico for 10 years) Favorite City: Toss up between Toronto and NYC. Cities lived in: Many (military for 8 years) Favorite radio show: Close tie between Brave New Waves and Mojo. Musical Affiliation: Ultradyne and Vidrio. Cofounder of Pi Gao Movement. http://www.pigaomovement.com Favorite Techno song: Three way tie between No UFOs, Technicolor, and Blow your House Down. Work: Lotus Notes administrator (currently switching to nurse anesthesia). Peace, Alex
Re: (313) John Arnold and Ayro @ Co-op
300% concur...do not miss these guys if you get the chance. Peace, Alex Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/12/2005 08:14 PM Please respond to Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 313 313@hyperreal.org cc Anya Stang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject (313) John Arnold and Ayro @ Co-op First time at Co-op for a year or so. My God. Undisputed best thing ever by about 75,936,937,140,746,836,847 times better than its nearest rival. Thank something smarter than humans for John Arnold's SPAM late Friday. There is absolutely no way words can convey how good it was to see the better-than-best-thing-ever on the best sound system in the world. My response afterwards was to stand speechless for 2 minutes, have a piss, then hug John Arnold (whom I've never met in person) ASAP. This was madatory. I almost cried about 10 times during the set it was so perfect. I've never known music could be so good. Everone I could see had a permagrin of pure joy. This was a lot better than the Sound Signature party @ the Detroit Contemopary @ the 2nd DEMF, which was previously THE BEST THING EVER. Apologies for the overdose of superlatives, I'm just really hoping I remember this tomorrow. Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk
RE: (313) EA afterparty Sunday
Hi Jodie, It was a pretty sweet setup. The graffiti on the wooden fence was still there, as well as the walls. The front room was facing the main door and in the main room the setup was pointing at the large wall on the south side. It was strange that the Visuals were displayed over the entire length of the large wall and a smaller wall. I wish I would have taken pics now.. :) I'm sure someone did. Sound system was ace, but it that concrete warehouse reverb that we all know and love. There were some round tables in the back but no chairs were put out..no one to sit in them. It looked like a ghost town, it was definitely a minimal setup. Having less than 50 people there, well you can imagine.. I have a feeling that this space will be used very soon by someone...would be cool to be there with ton of people in attendance. Peace, Alex Svagr, Jodie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/03/2005 08:28 AM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject RE: (313) EA afterparty Sunday can someone tell me how they did the set-up for the Easterm Market venue this year? A bit curious... heard the sound system was ace, but what else did they do to the place? Can't help my curiostiy... spent my whole summer there last year... aaahh... nostalgia...amazing venue and depending how the set-up is, it can either look really cool, or really empty... last years fest, the place looked cool, interactive with huge games, frisbee discus golf, walls to spray graffiti... even though we had 3000+ people walk through the door, the size of the place still overwhelmed the numbers. Anyways... my LOVE for that venue, my home away from home for a really good summer...makes me REALLY curious to hear how the place looked... how was the set-up done? Design, lights, sound, seating, where did they have people enter, did they open up the back outside area?... anything to form a picture in my head... gosh... I feel like a parent wanting to know how my kid is doing...lol JoD -Original Message- From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2005 18:54 To: Chana Goodman; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) EA afterparty Sunday info on this at detroitluv.com - Original Message - From: Chana Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chana Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 1:52 PM Subject: (313) EA afterparty Sunday Maan what a Bumer I left when Scan 7 left but had to live through Ultradyne and DJ digital fleeing, heart wrenching. So I guess my big question is...did Rob Hood end up performing. Please say no... heard the promoter might have lost thousands, ouch. I did not ask for my money back. chana
Re: (313) RE: fuse-in detroit - technicolor mf
Thanks for positive note Minto, but I must tell you that was the worst live set we've done in years. The sound guy screwed us so bad we should have stopped. The fact that he was inexperienced did not help matters. I was going to lose it and one point and really start killing people... ;) Peace, Alex Minto George [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/01/2005 11:07 PM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) RE: fuse-in detroit - technicolor mf Back from tha D after 20 hours of being on the road...off the top of my head while the weekend is still fresh in my mind: *this is a long review so break out the potato chips and onion dip* Day 1: Woke up around 11am and made it out to Submerge to take the gang record shopping. it was hard to get them out of there after entering. really happy to see Submerge reaching out to more labels outside of Detroit too. As always it was like feeding time at the troff, lots of techno enthusiasts and very little elbow room to dig for the slop. got to the festival kind of late after friday night's pre-fuse-in party at Oslo. As always every year previous, the schedule was so out of wack it didn't matter looking at the print out of the schedule i had brought with me. When we arrived Luke Eargoggle had just started up in the Musiclogical tent. He played a sweet set of LIVE electro and egyptian lover-like beats. sux we missed Orgue's set cause we had heard it rained early on at noon and there were a lot of people checkin out Brian's set. Also saw a bit of Pirahnahead's deep house dj set which was nice to hear as the sun was breakin out on the main stage. Really overall a nice beautiful cool and breezy weekend. Then it was back to the tent which is where I and pretty much most of the gang stayed the rest of the evening with highlight sets from Legowelt (best set i had ever heard Danny play going more into old school chicago Polarius mode), Cosmic Force (I had thought Cosmic Force was 2 guys but finally met Ben and he explained Edo does not have anything to do with Cosmic Force anymore and that it has been that way for a while now. Edo still records for Ben's marguerita label though), Bangkok Impact, and Detroit in Effect! What a show they put on too!!! Klen and Serge from Clone also played brilliant dj sets. Ultradyne ended the night with a nice set of dark mysterious EViLL! In between I caught pretty much all of Aril Brika's DEEP set on the main stage. Also Fabrice rocked it well too! lost of Detroit and gosh i remember hearing Robert Armani's Circus Bells played too! nice! and it's a shame we didn't meet up. next time Fabrice! ;) Missed a lot of people's sets too like John Tejada's set as well as tony olivierra, suburban knight, and electofunk live! which i was really bummed to miss since it was one of last year's highlight's for me. afterparty action started off at this middle eastern restaurant in Dearborn which had some nutty dope arabic music band playing. The food was incredile and the music was sweet...very inspirational. afterwards some crashed at the hotel and a few of us troopers made it out to see our favorite $tink play live late into the night... j played some favorites of course and a new track i had not heard before which was this slow struttin' bassline tune that had even legowelt jammin while all the other dutch crew were passed out on the floor. haha. A nice chill set by mah dowg with such short notice and amazing considering the little time he had to put it together. whew what an amazing first day at the festival. i would have been just as happy to go home at that point. Day 2... slow gettin up and made it out to the festival way late thinking we had missed raiders of the lost Arp but again the schedule all different from the posted one and we caught most of Mario's set which was definitely a highlight of the weekend. Scan 7 was sick! tough as nails techno and so good it made me punch convextion in the arm pretty hard. that track with the 808 kick in one bar with the decay all the way up *ucked me up! the re-uniting of AUX 88 was nice too. Seeing Model 500 LIVE was something I had been anticipating for a long time. It was cool to see Juan up there on the vocals but what was up with the air-101? haha too bad you can't play chords on that keyboard :P still a treat to see even as funny as some of the new juan lyrics were. I'm the audiotech up in this *itch! hahah yah hearing technicolor on that sound system was sweet. model 500 kicked off equals lame...so we ran over to see Robotnick. It was packed in the tent and i would describe it as italo-techno most of the time he played. very hi-nrg and not my cup of tea musically but fun to watch him doing old man dance moves up there and smiling real silly. Greg Earle and I were diggin the moment he played some OMD though :P late LATE night action included Coney's in Dearborn and a super late night LIVE/dj set by Rob Hood. Rob was awesome! i dunno what KJ means by his mixing being so bad...he was smooth as butter! He had the
Re: (313) EA afterparty Sunday
Yeah, we decided to help EA out by not playing and saving them some money. Ended up hanging around for a while after on the sidewalk just chatting it up with people. I think Rob and Alan Oldham played later. I think the last minute venue change and the large amount of afterparties killed the night. The venue was amazing with the video on the walls and sound. Hopefully some events will be thrown there in the near future. Peace, Alex Chana Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/02/2005 01:52 PM To Chana Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) EA afterparty Sunday Maan what a Bumer I left when Scan 7 left but had to live through Ultradyne and DJ digital fleeing, heart wrenching. So I guess my big question is...did Rob Hood end up performing. Please say no... heard the promoter might have lost thousands, ouch. I did not ask for my money back. chana
Re: (313) Fuse-In Day 1
Completely agree..my wife brought my 8 year old son down to see me play and she had to keep covering up his eyes because of what people were doing. This festival has turned into a fuc*ing unorganized rave. This is the first year I have not bothered going back after the first day. A shame.. theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/29/2005 10:36 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) Fuse-In Day 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL..beautiful post! Yeah, if I see another 18 year old with implants I'm gonna snap. Speaking of...I have to say there was an upswing on the extra-heavy petting/almost bumpin-uglies dancing by the prepubescent set in the Underground on Saturday night. I swear these kids looked like they were still waiting on pubes and were practicing for when they got 'em. I'm not exactly a prude, but the girl on girl on boy (ANY boy) jumbled with hand grabs from this fairly dusgusting guy who just went from young girl to young girl, staring openly and directly at body parts (and often grabbing wherever he chose) was somewhat disturbing. Not that I'm interested in what people do with each other behind closed doors, but this would have made the hippies at Woodstock put their clothes back on! :-) That wandering perv guy was particularly creepy. jeff
Re: (313) Fuse-In Day 1
LOL..beautiful post! Yeah, if I see another 18 year old with implants I'm gonna snap. Some of suburban friends didn't want to come into the festival because they thought the crowd was too young. Life in the mid 30's... Peace, Alex theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/29/2005 10:14 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) Fuse-In Day 1 Fred Heutte wrote: Really nice weather today -- a few sprinkles but mostly sunny/partly cloudy. The crowds are down just a bit but better than I expected so the $10 admission didn't really hurt things at all. This is an excellent sign for the financial health of the festival. Really - I thought it was actually a little more populated than usual when the fest first started (it's always sparse on day 1 at noon) and it got pretty crowded as we got into nighttime. And y'know...I know I'm a year older. I know I've put on some weight. I know I must be a bit grayer. But my wife and I had 3 different sets of high school age kids come up and ask us... are you enjoying yourselves?is your son spinning here?...do you like techno? As my wife is a High School English teacher and we occasionally run into kids she has taught/is teaching (and it was pretty loud, so if they said something to her, I wouldn't have caught it), I just thought she knew these kids. I then realized that we were a curiosity for them - those old fogies at the techno show. Of course, part of me wanted to give them a pop quiz on techno history and ask who's your daddy, but they already thought I WAS their daddy's (or grandfacther's) age. It was harmless - and even funny. My wife isn't so pleased by it (and she's 10 years my junior).It's interesting to see so many youger people just discover techno and think it is their secret. Ah, youth. I'm sure I was probably more naive when I was young. Maybe not. I have never appreciated stupidity in crowds, I have to say. I almost took someone's glow sticks away, I must admit (she had them on long ropes and was swinging them in a 15' swath in a tight crowd - ...but that's why we came down here! re: why? to clip people upside the head? If you came down here to swing those, go stand in the middle of I-75 and do it there!). As Kent said, I'm turning into the old man at the screen door yelling You kids get offa my lawn!!. :-) It wasn't as bad as this sounds - really it wasn't. I didn't even make her stand in the corner. I'm getting ready to head back down in a few and I'm taking my paddle with me this time, so if you're a young whippersnapper and you want to get sassy, you best get a head start. I'm a lot faster than I look. ;-) jeff
Re: (313) Record digging
Yeah, Mexicantown is an area that definitely has it together. I think a lot of it has to do with the tight-knit Latin community in the area. Xochi's is my favorite restaurant! Delicioso! Eastside what? Peace, Alex Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/26/2005 11:20 PM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) Record digging Speaking of the view, that was a spectacular sunset tonight. We were coming out of Xochimilco in Mexicantown watching it set over Michigan Central Station. Might as well enjoy the weather now, looks like cool, breezy and a bit wet for the festival. I am really impressed with the way things are coming back in Corktown and Mexicantown, they were always cool places but there's so much more happening there and it's worth a drive down Bagley just to see all the changes. live from harmonie park phred
Re: (313) fuse-in blogs
I'll be doing it photographically as I did last year. It's cool to see the written ones too though. I plan on not being lucid enough to write anything down ;) My pics from last year: http://public.fotki.com/alugo242/festival_pic_journal/ Peace, Alex lee herrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/26/2005 11:06 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) fuse-in blogs This may be a silly question, but are any fuse-in attendees on this list planning to blog their experiences surrounding the event? Cheers, Lee R. Herrington U STORE IT Technical Support Specialist [EMAIL PROTECTED] 440-260-2245 __ .__ __ __ _____/ |_ ___ |__|/ |_ | | \ __ / ___/\ __\/ _ \_ __ \_/ __ \ __ | \ __\ | | / /_/ \___ \ | | ( _ ) | \/\ ___/ /_/ | || | |/ / |__| \/|__|\___ |__||__| \/ \/
Re: (313) a nice affordable DEMF afterparty
This is going to be complete sweetness...Ayro is probably my favorite live performer in the D. Him and John Arnold get down when they play together. If you get a chance to hit this, do it... Peace, Alex Minto George [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/23/2005 01:40 PM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) a nice affordable DEMF afterparty Saturday Night of Fuse-In (May 28th) An event put together by Kevin Reynolds of Transmat featuring: Aril Brikha (Transmat) John Arnold (Ubiquity / Transmat) Ayro (Ubiquity / Omoamusic) Kevin Reynolds (Todhchaí / Transmat) Szymanski (Omoamusic) Tony Ollivierra (Planet E) E. Spleece (6Dirty) AB/Nrml (6Dirty) 5th Ave Downtown at Comerica Park 2100 Woodward Ave 313.471.2555 http://www.fifthavenuebilliards.com $10 / 21+ Doors at 9 down low music http://downlowmusic.org dLCMLP The Connection Machine PAINLESS OUT NOW dLVEXT2 E.R.P. 12 FEB dL SHOP LOWER LEVELS http://lowrlvlz.gemm.com __ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail
Re: (313) summer techno
You always manage to put a smile on my face...even I wouldn't subject my neighbors to that. Cops are here in about a minute and a half in my neck of the woods. Peace, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/12/2005 09:17 AM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) summer techno well, the suns out, and i've gone all dizzy already. whats your favourite summer techno track? on a sunny day, I like to sit outside, on an old sofa in my string vest with sandals and socks on, with my fat hairy chest hanging out swigging a bottle of QC sherry. With the windows wide open, i treat my neighbours to : Ultradyne - Ultradyne is EVIL haahahahahahahahahahaa. perfect for the neighbours, the scally feckers. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Rob Hood afterparty?
Hi Chana, Technotourist does not have all of the parties listed (yet). For a better idea of all of the parties that are happening, go to the Detroitluv forum and look under the parties in the festival section. http://www.detroitluv.com Go to http://www.electricavenue.org (it lists all of the EA party info) Look under Upcoming Events. You can buy tickets on the site as well. The EA parties are Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday. Masonic Temple is the venue for the all of the EA parties Memorial Day weekend. Peace, Alex Chana Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/09/2005 03:12 PM To 313 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) Rob Hood afterparty? Ok Im confused. Is rob hood playing two nights...Sat at the EA party and Sunday at the Masonic Temple? I dont see him listed at all on the techno tourist site and the EA parties only seem to be on Fri and Sat. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's playing Sunday at Masonic Temple. He is indeed playing the EA party. He's playing later in the night according to the lineup info I have. We (Ultradyne) are playing earlier. www.electricavenue.org for more info.. Peace, Alex James Hurlbut [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/06/2005 09:46 PM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) Rob Hood afterparty? Dear list, I can't stand it. Sleepless nights. Dreary days. Only 22 moons until the festival. But I don't know if Rob Hood is playing or not. he's not on the technotourist list but I thought I saw his name on the lineup for Sunday's electric avenue party. I'm confused. And a little scared. I got my first taste of rob hood in the flesh last year but he was rudely interrupted by the DPD. Now I need more. Please help, hopeless in san francisco
Re: (313) Rob Hood afterparty?
He's playing Sunday at Masonic Temple. He is indeed playing the EA party. He's playing later in the night according to the lineup info I have. We (Ultradyne) are playing earlier. www.electricavenue.org for more info.. Peace, Alex James Hurlbut [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/06/2005 09:46 PM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) Rob Hood afterparty? Dear list, I can't stand it. Sleepless nights. Dreary days. Only 22 moons until the festival. But I don't know if Rob Hood is playing or not. he's not on the technotourist list but I thought I saw his name on the lineup for Sunday's electric avenue party. I'm confused. And a little scared. I got my first taste of rob hood in the flesh last year but he was rudely interrupted by the DPD. Now I need more. Please help, hopeless in san francisco
Re: (313) New Pi Gao 12
Hi Alex, This is a solo project by yours truly. You can hear sound bytes here: http://www.pigaomovement.com Click on Discography, then PGM-006. You listen to snippets there...let me know what you think! We will have some more releases (including Ultradyne and Manasyt) coming soon... Peace, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/26/2005 09:55 AM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) New Pi Gao 12 Spotted it on Submerge. Not by Ultradyne though. Anyone heard it? thanks alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) babies and loud sounds Re: (313) Blackman Arnold snacktime
Sh*t. I don't know, I have 3 kids and they dance to my stuff. :) This is Ultradyne! My kids are subjectively cool as hell in my book...:) Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/07/2005 12:13 AM To dave cronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject (313) babies and loud sounds Re: (313) Blackman Arnold snacktime dave cronin wrote: i have a friend whose husband used to play pretty bangin stuff (sabrettes kinda gear) and she used to stop in to catch his sets on big party systems while she was pregnant... after the baby was born it was absolutely verifiable that boomin kix would calm the little one down when he was crying and upset. pretty funny, really. joey beltram lullabies and all that. you know how people, when there's a baby around, are always like shh, quiet, you'll wake the baby? well, apparently the sound levels a fetus experiences nonstop in the womb are akin to being next to a loud vacuum cleaner in action. andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.3 - Release Date: 4/5/2005
(313) Europe Incursion -- Ultradyne
Hi All, Just dropping a note to let you guys know we'll be at the following locations this week: 8APR2005 --- Brussels, Belgium [Ric's Boat] 9APR2005 --- Bordeaux, France [Plug] Peace, Alex [Ultradyne]
Re: (313) Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: (313) Rob Hood - Sleepcycles
http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?topic=23340.45 I'd like to preface this by saying this lineup is tentative: Friday Night (List still growing) Sean Deason Dimitri Pike Popkan Mitch Walcott Brian Kage Kero Lee Curtiss Ryan Brogan Saturday Night Fabrice Lig Infinite Grey John Tejada John Clees Andy James Element8 Jason Patrick Josh Surma Derek Plasleiko Ryan Brogan Sunday Night Scan7 Alan Oldham Clandestine Rob Hood Ultradyne T. Linder Darkcube Ja'Maul Redmond Andy Hegler Annix Dan Lucas Niel V Manasyt Monday Night Twonz Docile Killbot Ryan Brogan Big Joe Hicks J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/17/2005 07:39 PM Please respond to J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: (313) Rob Hood - Sleepcycles i just heard rob is playing LIVE in detroit, and listmember (and fellow north carolinian yeahhh!) jamaul redmond LIVE alongside him (very rob hood style, actually superior to much of rob's stuff!), along with a bunch of other nice names (which were not elaborated) sometime next month...something thrown by those detroittechnomilitia guys i think? whats the info jamaul?!? you still on here? congrats and have fun! sounds dope!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mar 17, 2005 6:59 PM To: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Klaa s-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: (313) Rob Hood - Sleepcycles I have to support those that support Rob. I think he is one of the best DJs out of Detroit, always playing things LIVE, spontaneous, and just plain however he wants. I don't think I've seen him out of form. This is a DJ that doesn't hesitate to go from hard techno to deep house to old acid to Classic Detroit Trax, and back and forth. I LOVE hearing him mix records... Dennis On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Tristan Watkins wrote: I'm with Ian. Hadn't seen him until a couple of years ago but each of the 3 or 4 times since then have been wicked. KJ, your descriptions of his Dutch sets have always really baffled me! Only one of those sets felt unfunky to me, but in that case the brutality made up for it. Generally I find he plays some pretty deep stuff (if at 140-150 bpm) and generally a fair amount of his own stuff. And he's been one of the tightest mixers I've seen on each occasion. Sometimes it even seems like he mixes minimal techno like a deep house DJ, with really long blends, etc. Sounds weird but seems that way to me. Oh, and he sh*ts on the rest of the world from a great height when it comes to the 909. *Really* looking forward to he and Passarani at Fabric next Saturday (and Akufen and Crackhaus who I probably won't see because I'll be watching the other two all night, err at least a good chunk of it following some time at Flushpoint). Tristan === [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Original message Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: (313) Rob Hood - Sleepcycles Author:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 16th March 2005 4:55:1 what? I can't believe thathe played at Split party in London and people were ravinf about him being on form..I saw him at the Custard Factory in Birmmingham a year or so ago and he was unreal! I have never heard him train wreck, honest. On Mar 16, 2005, at 3:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember when I was a mere cheeky young scamp, and one day Rob Hood played at Swankys Soap in Manchester. He played a nice sounding record. I wandered up to the box. Kinda knew him to talk to at the time Hi Rob I said, in a polite voice. What's this record please? So you actually heard him play a good set recently? I heard him last saturday after 3 years avoiding him because of other horrible sets from the man. I have to say that he couldn't get a straight mix (and i am talking serious train-wrecks here) in the first 45 minutes. Once again his whole set was filled with nothing more then non-inspirational, non-funky music. We have chords and scales for a reason, they make music sound good, please use them. After Rob Hood however came James Ruskin and he was quite good to be honest. He dropped some more funkier stuff and even some Blaze, Blake Baxter and Electroids... I am so disappointed in Rob Hood the last couple of years, what happened to the Minimal Nation? Did the US listed it as a country that supported terrorism or what? KJ
Re: (313) synch festival
Pete is chilling in Berlin. Mark is still in Brooklyn. I always mean to ask him why they're not on here as much. They were both in Detroit last year for the fest.. Peace, Alex Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/2005 01:14 PM Please respond to 313@hyperreal.org To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) synch festival On Mar 9, 2005, at 1:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone been to the Synch Festival in Greece? There's some talk of it here: http://www.littledetroit.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8677 It says Timeline are playing, anyone know if that's true? I haven't been to it, but John Tejada DJ'ed at it last year. I remember him telling me was fun/interesting/etc., but as we discussed here on (313) at the time, it was way out in b*ttf*ck Egypt - like 30 minutes' drive from Athens by bus. Next time I see John's IM client pop back up online, I'll ask him what he remembers about it. The lineup last year was pretty amazing: http://www.synch.gr/site/program.php so it wouldn't surprise me at all that Timeline et al. are playing this year. (Maybe most of those acts don't know it's way out in BFE) (I remember Pete Grammenos mentioning cancelling Mutek plans to go to it - him being Greek and all - whatever happened to Pete and Mark Krux? Both of them currently residing in the Where Are They Now? file ... ) I want to go. M. KEBABS AND TECHNO. oh, and HALLUMI CHEESE TOO, TOASTED Best get a new job for more than 11,500 quid a year then eh Alex? ;-) - Greg (whose house repainting costs are threatening to force him to turn in his TechnoTourist badge :-( )
Re: (313) radio show peeps
LOL. Too bad our tracks usually don't last long enough for a fag, but I fancy the idea..:) Peace, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/22/2005 10:25 AM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) radio show peeps erm, would this be a good time to try and blag a show on little detroit radio? It's not going to be chat show is it? Yeah, for sure. Chat's what I'm all about. Midnight caller, but a techno version techno midnight caller hmm. HostHello, Line 1, you're thru to the techno terrorist, how can I help? Caller All techno is getting a bit fast for me, is there any nice mid-tempo stuff about HostSlwww it down bird brain, NEEXXT HostLine 2, you're on CallerMarsel from Delsin records just stole my brand new axis hovercraft I bought off Jeff Mills HostDon't worry my son, I'll send an operative to kick his tulip ass Callerthanks pikey, cheques in the post HostThats the spirit ur kid *Host slams in hardest darkest Ultradyne record he can find* HostChill out to that mo' fo's, I'm off for a fag got to be a winner. p.s. yeah, it was me, I said do it _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) detroit this weekend
You can always hit Oslo and then The Works for some after-hours shenanigans. They always stay open pretty late. This Friday is the Bandwidth night which they do to support www.detroitluv.com. Always a good time to be had. Peace, Alex /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/16/2005 09:21 PM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) detroit this weekend wanting to go listen to some music, but havent been to detroit in a while.. how is oslo? pictures look nice, but how is the sound/vibe? softcurls seems to be booking really good acts, and this friday is ghostly night and then there is the works. ideas please. where will I end up friday night.. -Joe
Re: (313) Detroit in Motion!
It actually did have that feel during the Winter Blast that they had downtown right after all that snow, the skating that was so full they started having a schedule, and the huge slide made entirely of snow. It was super crowded but entirely too damn cold. I brought the kiddies down there but they only lasted about an hour in the frigid conditions. Peace, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/04/2005 12:55 PM To Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) Detroit in Motion! Specifically, where a once-ominous and deserted nighttime downtown core is transformed into a teeming weekend winter wonderland. The type that's full of families in matching puffy coats and gaggles of teens cautiously eyeing each other over hot chocolates like something out of a 21st-century Norman Rockwell painting. WHAT?!!! Is this the same Detroit we are talking about? ~David -- Original Message - Subject: (313) Detroit in Motion! Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 12:38:03 -0500 From: Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org A friend of mine posted this article from the Globe Mail (a Toronto Based newspaper) the other day. OT - but kinda funny reading this - seeing as how there has been a bevy of posts on the 'Crisis in Detroit' recently. After decades of neglect, the city once known for packing heat is now generating some. Downtown buildings are being resurrected, eclectic eateries are springing up and the city has landed next year's Super Bowl. DOMINIC PATTEN goes exploring By DOMINIC PATTEN Special to The Globe and Mail Wednesday, February 2, 2005 - Page R10 As you chill the beer and open your dip and hips in preparation for watching this year's Super Bowl from Jacksonville, Fla., just take a moment to think about miracles. And I'm not talking about the Philadelphia Eagles defeating the odds-on favourites and defending champions, the New England Patriots. I'm talking about urban miracles. Specifically, where a once-ominous and deserted nighttime downtown core is transformed into a teeming weekend winter wonderland. The type that's full of families in matching puffy coats and gaggles of teens cautiously eyeing each other over hot chocolates like something out of a 21st-century Norman Rockwell painting. That's what it was like at downtown Detroit's new Campus Martius Park for the very first Motown Winter Blast this year. After decades of neglect and disrepair, the city that was once best known for packing heat is now generating some. Detroit is a city undergoing a renaissance, Jennifer Granholm, the Vancouver-born governor of Michigan, said in an interview, and now is the time to see it. The city has become a burgeoning dining, sporting, entertainment and cultural centre. In recent years, Detroit has turned things around, building on the best of its past and betting on the future, and even landing Super Bowl XL in 2006. Three casinos have opened in the city since 1999 and big business has returned. Many of the former ruins of Detroit -- the warehouses, factories and corporate headquarters -- have been turned into either retail stores or high-end lofts for the affluent professionals moving back downtown. New stadiums, hotels, clubs and restaurants have also opened their doors and flourished. It's not the first time the city locals call the D glittered so brightly. As recently as the 1950s, when it boomed with the wealth of the auto industry, Detroit had it all. But cities, like heavyweight champions, never stay on top forever and even the Big Three couldn't withstand the riots of the 1960s, the flight of the middle class to the suburbs, the decimation of the manufacturing and tax base, and soaring crime rates that consistently saw Detroit labelled the most dangerous city in America. For years, the city virtually turned a blind eye to the urban blight that dominated downtown. Vandalism and squalor occupied many buildings. In 1988, not a single construction permit was issued in Detroit. For a city that was once renowned for its stunning architectural vista, it was a burnt-out husk We all know the decline of the city didn't happen overnight, said Susan Sherer, the executive director of Detroit's Super Bowl Committee, and it can't be fixed overnight, but there's a lot we've done, and lots more we can do. Slight good news came late last year when the annual City Crime Rankings publication, based on crime data reported to the Federal Bureau of Investigation in 2003, upgraded Detroit to the second-most dangerous city in America, after Camden, N.J. Better news, like the devil, is in the details. The ranking is based on all of Metro Detroit, and as police insist, violent crime and petty theft is significantly down, especially in the downtown core. I would put our downtown up against any downtown across the
Re: (313) No Movement 2005?
I was just about to hit that up too..it's gallivant, but she gets all the cool points today for using it. Looks good on ya! And I concur on the moving of the festival..that would be 1000 times harder to stomach than paying some bucks. Peace, Alex J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/27/2005 08:03 PM Please respond to J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Chana Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) No Movement 2005? i agree. you can't move the festival, it's part of detroit. it's just another festival anywhere else. galivant! -Original Message- From: Chana Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 27, 2005 7:56 PM To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) No Movement 2005? Wow! David arent you happy enough to have Mills, Mike Banks living on your continent. Not to mention all the shows headlining detroit/american artists that are constantly rotating through Europe. Mn, do we really have to take one of the last formidable, and sizable electronic detroit/american events left here and move it too. I personally dont have the money to be galivanting to Europe and back. This is one thing among few others I have to look forward to. I cant believe people would even consider moving the festival as a viable option. Remember it started as DEMF for a reason, and will always be that as far as Im concerned. Move the festival, and it might as well be any other festival. sorry struck a chord. I'll certainly make a donation if thats what it takes. chana
Re: (313) No Movement 2005?
I completely agree with what you're saying but I counter it all could be done if everyone paid 5 bucks a day and accomplish what it needs to. Hell, a beer down there is 5 bucks. Peace, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/26/2005 05:30 PM To Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313 313@hyperreal.org, Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Re: (313) No Movement 2005? I'd pay $15 per day Putting an entrance fee on it could result in a drop in attendance. Only the real fans of the music will go and many of the raver kids just looking for some music to practice their breakdancing skills to would shy away from it (possibly). If they still attract a big crowd then I would speculate that big business would perk up and much of this music would start to be considered viable (from a business stand point). Could it be a much belated catalyst for the electronic music revolution that was supposed to happen years ago? Would radio stations start playing this music when they realized that thousands of people from all over the world were actually paying to go hear it live - in Detroit? I think that as long as the festival is free - it's still not paid much attention to beyond specialized press. Anyone understand what I'm saying? MEK Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To Matt MacQueen 01/26/05 04:13 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Please respond to 313 313@hyperreal.org Martin Dust Subject [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: (313) No Movement 2005? com Fair enough, a Million people for nothing, only means two things, one of which is a long cue at the bogs I'd be happy to travel 4000 miles and still pay $15 - worth every penny - I'd rather secure the future than try to appeal to the masses, us Limeys aren't such tight asses :) M - Original Message - From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org; Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 9:41 PM Subject: Re: (313) No Movement 2005? On Jan 26, 2005, at 3:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: at $15/day you would see apprx an 80% drop in attendance I concur. Also, Martin, this is america where any outdoor music festival except this one must involve guitars to be worth $15 ;) There just aren't big outdoor things in this country that aren't rock-n-roll driven.A buck though, i mean, if 2 out of every 5 kids I saw are spending $3 on those glow necklaces they can shell out a buck to get in the door. And still have some left over for an elephant ear as they walk down the Aisle O' Fried Food Vendorz. -- Matt MacQueen http://sonicsunset.com
Re: (313) Can anyone help me out of this situation?
I just tried it last night and it works like crap..I'd wait until it's at least an alpha version.. Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/27/2005 11:55 AM To 313 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) Can anyone help me out of this situation? Martin Dust wrote on Thu, 27 Jan 2005 about following: Ad supported and unstable? Why would I do that? Ad supported. Sorry...that's a dealbreaker for me. Bittorrent is solid. oh and everyone is aware that exeem contains some spyware? ok, move on.. sakke -- System error?:: Success props to mozilla.org
Re: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005?
Another fact is that the sound of Detroit has been changing all of this time and it has not been reflected in the festival or accepted en masse by many yet. It needs to change, but there are many in control right now that want to maintain the status quo. Since Transmat still supposedly has control of the festival, why not send them an email and inquire. If anything, it will hopefully spur them to get started. It would be amazingly impressive if they could get it together *gasp* early and not leave the international folks hanging in the wind. In case many of you haven't figured it out, there's about 5-10 people that completely control this festival behind the scenes, and that's the way it's going to continue. Unfortunately, organization is not their strong point. You would think that after last year they would come correct and get it done now. Top secret procrastination at its best... Peace, Alex http://www.pigaomovement.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/10/2004 02:56 PM To [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313@hyperreal.org, 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005? the fact is- the sound of Detroit right now (disregarding the obvious mainstream dance contingent) still has little to do with Detroit techno in the traditional sense. And i don't read this list for 12 reviews/discussions/announcments I read it for the occasional live review and some spirited and often humorous conversation. On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While Alex sleeps I'm posting like crazy... oh well I am really trying to say on topic things. I think Grovskopa is good too, I have some friends that are into that whole circle of stuff, seems like the only good harder techno is coming from that school of techno these days. Since the other stuff seems to have gotten quite clubby and cheesy... Reeko is another that puts out pretty decent tracks in that style, I think Martin Dust probably could inform us more on records in this style maybe??? Also, on the harder tip, and 313 techno: when Regis came to Chicago, the ATTACK PEOPLE from Detroit did a super hot hard techno live PA, I definitely recommend checking them if anyone gets a chance. I do think the list loses a certain flavor because Detroit peeps no longer seem to participate. I'm considering hanging out on Detroitluv as a substitute... Cus I really don't want to just talk ABOUT Detroit, I need to stay up on what's going down there, as I live in Chicago which I consider to be a sort of sister city. I'm hoping to take a trip to the D over xmas too - anyone reading this from the D, it would be nice if you could give me a holla holla. And yeah, really CURIOUS about movement. ~David -- Original Message - Subject: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005? Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:20:41 -0800 From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org On Dec 10, 2004, at 10:38 AM, Kent Williams wrote: Here's something that's stunningly relevant to this mailing list. While there are a lot of people from all over the world on 313, there are still a bunch of people in the Detroit metro area on 313. Some of them are even somewhat in the know about what's going on, or are on good speaking relations with people at KMS and Transmat. Heh. Actually, it's kinda funny - I had this proto-posting in my head in response to the OT thread, and one of the things I was going to mention was how *few* people in the Detroit metro area were still on the list. (No more Rob Theakston, no more Bryan Bickell - R.I.P., no more Steve Lammers, no more Dave Walker, ...) Some of the others still here don't post anywhere near as often as they used to (Jeff Klein, Dan Sicko, ...). That's definitely colored things differently around here - part of Detroit Techno Culture to me is the Culture part, and hearing about goings-on in Detroit. Mailing lists always have an ebb and flow to them, and are defined by the characteristics of the posts of the members. I can't really contribute to the list in terms of records anymore, because I don't buy any records. (I do appreciate all the references though, as I can find a few things on SoulSeek.) A lot of stuff on this list is pretty obscure - I see artists and labels fly by me a lot of the time that I've never even heard of. (Garrett just turned me on to DJ Grovskopa, for example - I'd never heard of him. Vaguely Surgeon/Regis-like goodness - check http://www.psnz.net/grovskopa.com/mixes.html out. I love it - just had never heard of it before.) Part of what a mailing list does is act as a Commons - if people post about that hot new 12 of Grybbnik by Mystipikl but no one else has it, there won't be many responses, will there? And the original poster will think Sod it, no one wants to talk about Mystipikl, I won't post anymore. Self-defeating, really ... - Greg
Re: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005?
Hi Michael, There is a myriad of things going on in the Detroit musical scene that does not see the light of day at the festival. I'm being specific the electronic/electro/techno/whatevertheh*llyouwantocallit :) And I'm not just saying this as far producers, but DJ's as well. It's pretty funny to see most of the DJ's that play all year here not get a spot on the festival while DJ's from back in the day waltz on in and they haven't played a Detroit gig all year. And that is just one example out of many. It just shows a lack of either interest or knowledge in the local players by the festival staff. If you're not cool with someone, you have a snowball's chance. Hell, people like T. Linder and Andy Hegler that can rock some sh*t on the turntables and actually play all of the small parties and are due the spotlight. And yes, I know there are more people than slots...and plenty of other great DJ's here...there are 8 million stories in the naked city..this is another sad one. Peace, Alex www.pigaomovement.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/10/2004 03:50 PM To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005? Another fact is that the sound of Detroit has been changing all of this time and it has not been reflected in the festival What sound of Detroit is the festival not covering? curious MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/10/2004 02:27 To PM[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005? Another fact is that the sound of Detroit has been changing all of this time and it has not been reflected in the festival or accepted en masse by many yet. It needs to change, but there are many in control right now that want to maintain the status quo. Since Transmat still supposedly has control of the festival, why not send them an email and inquire. If anything, it will hopefully spur them to get started. It would be amazingly impressive if they could get it together *gasp* early and not leave the international folks hanging in the wind. In case many of you haven't figured it out, there's about 5-10 people that completely control this festival behind the scenes, and that's the way it's going to continue. Unfortunately, organization is not their strong point. You would think that after last year they would come correct and get it done now. Top secret procrastination at its best... Peace, Alex http://www.pigaomovement.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/10/2004 02:56 PM To [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313@hyperreal.org, 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005? the fact is- the sound of Detroit right now (disregarding the obvious mainstream dance contingent) still has little to do with Detroit techno in the traditional sense. And i don't read this list for 12 reviews/discussions/announcments I read it for the occasional live review and some spirited and often humorous conversation. On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While Alex sleeps I'm posting like crazy... oh well I am really trying to say on topic things. I think Grovskopa is good too, I have some friends that are into that whole circle of stuff, seems like the only good harder techno is coming from that school of techno these days. Since the other stuff seems to have gotten quite clubby and cheesy... Reeko is another that puts out pretty decent tracks in that style, I think Martin Dust probably could inform us more on records in this style maybe??? Also, on the harder tip, and 313 techno: when Regis came to Chicago, the ATTACK PEOPLE from Detroit did a super hot hard techno live PA, I definitely recommend checking them if anyone gets a chance. I do think the list loses a certain flavor because Detroit peeps no longer seem to participate. I'm considering hanging out on Detroitluv as a substitute... Cus I really don't want to just talk ABOUT Detroit, I need to stay up on what's going down there, as I live in Chicago which I consider to be a sort of sister city. I'm hoping to take a trip to the D over xmas too - anyone reading this from the D, it would be nice if you could give me a holla holla. And yeah, really CURIOUS about movement. ~David -- Original Message - Subject: (313) Re: On Topic: Movement 2005? Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:20:41 -0800 From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org On Dec 10, 2004, at 10:38 AM, Kent Williams wrote: Here's something that's stunningly relevant to this mailing list. While there are a lot of people from all over the world on 313, there are still
(313) Chicago NYE (OT)
Anyone know of any events happening in Chicago for NYE? Thanks, Alex
RE: (313) neo detroit
Booty latex hard core. Sterile hardcore sextronica. Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/24/2004 10:44 AM To '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject RE: (313) neo detroit Marshmellow soul-tech. All squishy and deep. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change.
Re: (313) Abflug special, Karri O dj athens live mixes (deep techno)
I don't believe you. We need pictures..video preferably. ;) Peace, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/24/2004 12:43 PM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) Abflug special, Karri O dj athens live mixes (deep techno) - Greg (who got dragged to see Green Day last night. They played We Are The Champions with confetti spraying as an encore. As a crowd singalong. No, I'm not kidding.) Ha! Well, you couldn't make that up! Is that politically related?? Actually, sorry, don't answer that on here! Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) sorry...for that...
Thanks for the link Badi. I think all of these people that think everything is going great over there need to be strapped down Clockwork Orange style and forced to watch those images over and over again. To stray even further, there is a documentary I watched last night called The Fog of War. It's a memoir documentary with Robert McNamara. It's a must watch. I equate it with Baraka with the feelings it evoked. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317910/ Soundtrack by Philip Glass and John Kusiak, to keep this slightly OT. Peace, Alex Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/18/2004 02:37 AM To [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject RE: (313) sorry...for that... I don't think there's any need to apologize Badi. It might be OT but it's important. To bring this post back on topic, I was listening to Ultradyne's 'Privilege of Sacrifice' EP last night, and I realized that the lyrics of the title track are very contemporaneous. k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 November 2004 07:25 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) sorry...for that... just really coming to wits end about it all...
Re: (313) Kerry admits it's over
Excellent choice. Well, the American people have voted. Now shows like Big Brother and Survivor make a lot more sense. This country is f*cked. Period. Peace, Alex lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/03/2004 12:16 PM To Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313 (E-mail) 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) Kerry admits it's over Yep, more than depressing. np: AON - A Time for Fear (Who's Afraid) [1984 ZTT/Island] Lord, Lord, Lord ... where did we get such men? So what happens now? Martin Dust wrote: Pretty gutted - there was a real chance there...
(313) Der Zyklus
Did anyone catch any of the performances? Peace, Alex
Re: (313) The Trax 20 Year Anniversary
What makes me even madder is that I WAS in Chicago yesterday for the day..if I would have known about this, I would have stayed longer...d*mn it to hell! Alex Thorin Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/21/2004 09:03 PM To 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) The Trax 20 Year Anniversary not that it would have made a difference for me, but in the future please don't wait until the day of to post stuff like this. Matt MacQueen writes: Thursday, October 21, 2004 The Trax 20 Year Anniversary feat. Marshall Jefferson, Farley Jackmaster Funk Maurice Joshua Legendary Chicago house label Trax Recordings turns 20, celebrating in grand fashion with super-rare flashback performances by three of its musical founding fathers: Marshall Jefferson, Farley Jackmaster Funk Maurice Joshua. It’s difficult to overestimate the impact of Trax Recordings on the global dance music scene in 1984. With such seminal releases as “The House Music Anthem (Move Your Body)” (Marshall Jefferson), “This Is Acid” (Maurice Joshua), “Funkin’ With The Drums” (Farley Jackmaster Funk), and many countless more soon-to-be house classics, Trax was on the fast road to redefining the sound of dance music today. Playing a key role in Chicago’s claim to fame as the origin of house music, Trax’s stable of legendary DJ/Producers is staggering, including Frankie Knuckles, Fingers Inc., Phuture, Adonis, and so many more. Indeed, the echo Trax Recordings started so many years ago can still be heard loud and clear 20 years later. What better way to celebrate a proud Chicago tradition than bringing the crew back together? Gotta have house? Coming right up!!! FEATURING 6 HOURS OF NON-STOP PREMIUM CHICAGO OLD-SCHOOL HOUSE SPUN BY THE ONES WHO STARTED IT ALL: MARSHALL JEFFERSON MAURICE JOSHUA FARLEY JACKMASTER FUNK Lower Level: DJ Flipside / www.djflipside.com Round-Bar: Mark Centennial / Heaven Earth Division Ben Greene / Sound-Bar Free before 11pm with RSVP http://www.purefuture.com/html/rsvp.php $10 thereafter Sound-Bar 226 W. Ontario St. Chicago, IL USA ph: 312-787-4480 9pm-4am / 21+ -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
Re: (313) Other records floating my boogie board - 20 second reviews
Thank you Sir for your kind words and support. Remind me to buy you one next time I see you..:) Peace, Alex Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/13/2004 06:17 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To '313' 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) Other records floating my boogie board - 20 second reviews My investments in electronic music's future, trying not to repeat those already discussed aplenty: Blake Baxter : Poetry And Rhythm - Session Two (Nice covers of Depeche Mode's Enjoy the Silence) Etiop: Sub + Sub (Recognition Poland) 12: (Newcomer on Jacek Sienkiewicz' Recognition label. 'Mysticism' has a kinda-acidic bassline, merged with detuned pads and slightly-clicky beats) Solo Action: Opulence (Solo Action Germany) (*PROPER* techno. All three tracks killer) Analog Fingerprints : Age of Hypocrisy (New Marco Passirani on Submerge-affiliated label, churning out classic Detroit and full-on rave sounds. All four track = detonation) Kirk Degiorgio : EP3 - (Four tracks of kinda-slow Detroitiotechno) Duplex 100 : Extrapoliert (MJ goes UR) Horror Inc. : I Plead Guilty (Akufen goes deep dark piano) Karizma : Strings Emotional EP (Interesting 'deep burnt'-style strings with a kinda UR synth taking over the second half. A bit tracky, but good) Sebo K : Changes EP (Drum 'n bass producer doing acid and old school Chicago stuffs) Ultradyne : The Privilege Of Sacrifice (Sinister stuff Alex! I totally scared a hungover friend with it Sunday morning. Some of the synths remind me a bit of Skinny Puppy, which is a big compliment in my book) DJ Rels : Theme For A Broken Soul (Madlib and Peanut Butter Wolf go broken beat, and end up sounding something like Theo Parrish were he to do the same. A few gems on here, solid throughout) Umod : Enter The Umod (Differently broken beats from Domu. 'For Funk's Sake' and 'What Melody' are sick, particularly the latter, which has as much attention to detail as any track I've hear. Domu's stil on a roll. The 12 of 'Tromboline' is also worth getting for the flip) Various Artists : Del Alma Sampler Vol.1 (New on Amalgama, featuring a tasty Titonton stuff that may be atyically broken enough to not scare away those who don't usually feel broken beat stuff) 808 State : Prebuild (Ancient rarities unearthed on Rephlex. Particularly enjoying 'The Ride', 'Sex Mechanic' and 'Automatic') Population One : Earth 2976 (Old Terrence Dixon reissue on Metroplex. All three tracks nice. Crappy recording or pressing but still playable) Mike L Lanoiraude : Mystic River EP (Sounds like a Charles Webster Remix. It is a Charles Webster remix!) Bjork : Medulla (Mostly acapella album featuring Icelandic choruses and Razell, formerly of The Roots. A must for fans) Ame : Mifune / Shiro (Two excellent new tracks on Sonar Kollektiv, the first reminding me a bit of Attend 1 without being unoriginal) Ethnic Heritage Ensemble : Running In The Streets (Another Charles Webster Remix. A slow builder. Really tasty if that's your thing) Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Claude's Laptop stolen
Surely he has a backup laptop..at least at home..that's f*cking wack though. Welcome to the jungle...trust no one. Did they take from the stage or was it already bagged up? I think the more details you give may help...maybe. :( A. Wildtek Concept / DJ Dimitri Pike [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/06/2004 03:17 PM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) Claude's Laptop stolen One or more unknown persons stole his Apple Notebook in the night between 1st and 2nd October and inflicted him a massive loss. During or after his gig in the Prison Club Straßkirchen/Germany somebody of the people in the club stole his Notebook. On the Apple Notebook are all tracks wich he requieres urgent to play on his next gigs, likewise all his private and business information, too. This is an unbelievable loss in financial and private respect. Maybe all following gigs have to be canceled, if the Notebook will not be recovered. We ask for all, to contact mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] who know something about it. You can also use the contact form at http://www.claudeyoung.de Please propagate this mail... Thanks for your help Prison Crew + Bikini BPM -- Dimitri Pike http://wildtek.free.fr http://groups.msn.com/313TechnoMusic
RE: (313) detroit event tonight - reminder *RANT*
I can't believe this?!? Unfortunately I wasn't able to head down for this, but it looked like this weekend was going to be pretty good here. Did they give a reason? Was it late? Funny how you get 2 people shot in front of the Candi Bar/XS a few days ago and I bet money they weren't shut down this weekend. Makes you wanna go h... Peace, Alex ani [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/26/2004 09:56 PM To 313 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject RE: (313) detroit event tonight - reminder *RANT* yes, they did have to shut it down. it is now illegal to listen to electronic music in detroit. it must be, because when the last party that i was at got shut down, i yelled, 'it's illegal to dance in detroit now, right!?' at the every cop i saw, and they didn't disagree. detroit police should go to the clubs where people are getting shot in the head. oh, i forgot, there's no money in that.
Re: (313) since we're busy...
Hi Scotto! That was actually a collaboration in the sense that all of the tracks on there were done with samples created by Redshift. One side was Redshift and the other side was Ultradyne. At this present moment I could not tell you which side was which (I don't have that release in front of me). I'm sure we'll be seeing each other soon once you move in. I was just out with your roomies yesterday for some coneys and chili fries. One fry at a time.. Peace, Alex Scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/13/2004 08:13 PM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) since we're busy... hey alex since were on the subject of ultradyne releases, what is the deal with the surface effect release? it says ultradyne and redshift, is a colbration or is one side you guys and the other side redshift? and my next question is if the later is correct which side is ultradyne and what are the track names if they are named? its a good release i think side a (side with two tracks on it) sounds more like you guys, side b has been making it in to my mix again, fits nicely with the heavier electro. scotto hamtramck, mi. (in the process of moving to finally!) ps. anyone know of any audio jobs in detroit? i could really use one ;-) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marsel // Nomorewords.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 5:55 PM Subject: Re: (313) since we're busy... We released 1000 copies of this. We did send promos out as well. At that time we were mostly dealing only with Hardwax and Formic for the most part. Marsel // Nomorewords.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/10/2004 05:43 AM To 313 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) since we're busy... it was out only on promo, i believe 50 copies or some? bought mine at Clone, somewhere '97 by luck, as I normally don't buy promo's but prefer to wait for the real release -- Nomorewords.net Bentinckstraat 66-2 1051 GN Amsterdam The Netherlands fax +31-20-486-9624 - Original Message - From: placid [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 11:37 AM Subject: RE: (313) since we're busy... The orig ultradyne is up there with the clarence g in terms of difficulty to obtain.. I believe... been looking for a while but no luck..
RE: (313) since we're busy...
We will have the back catalogue available soon through Submerge. We had limited distro when we first started, so most releases were limited. Peace, Alex placid [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/10/2004 05:37 AM To [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject RE: (313) since we're busy... The orig ultradyne is up there with the clarence g in terms of difficulty to obtain.. I believe... been looking for a while but no luck.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 September 2004 10:27 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) since we're busy... Can you tell my boss isn't in? Shed: Sounds beautiful! I like A1 clip best. Sound quality pretty low tho, is that just the clips? Yoav B: A1: can't get this clip! A2: Rough rough loop! nice!! B1: disjointed acid funk I like this guy!! and his tapes! Ultradyne: A1 - Nice, I came out from hiding behind the sofa A2 - Abstract, but not in their usual total darkness way B1 - Rough dancefloor computer funk B2 - Another rough dfloor vibe From these clips, I think this might be one of my favourite Ultradyne releases! 154: Mentalist nice marsel : ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) since we're as busy as we want to be..
The missing track was on our first release (PGM-001). Marsel // Nomorewords.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/10/2004 04:14 AM To 313 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) since we're as busy as we want to be.. for the 313 ears only, some more preview clips blacklabel presents a 'lost' ultradyne release previous only available as promo copy (craft rec. 26 from '97) of the now defunkt sabotage/craft label originally called 'cities in ruin beings laid to waste', now re-released as 'cities in retro' (though.. one track still missing... ) black label xxx/1 http://nomorewords.net/blacklabel/blxxx1-a1.mp3 http://nomorewords.net/blacklabel/blxxx1-a2.mp3 http://nomorewords.net/blacklabel/blxxx1-b1.mp3 http://nomorewords.net/blacklabel/blxxx1-b2.mp3
Re: (313) since we're busy...
Thanks Alex! [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/10/2004 05:26 AM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) since we're busy... Can you tell my boss isn't in? Shed: Sounds beautiful! I like A1 clip best. Sound quality pretty low tho, is that just the clips? Yoav B: A1: can't get this clip! A2: Rough rough loop! nice!! B1: disjointed acid funk I like this guy!! and his tapes! Ultradyne: A1 - Nice, I came out from hiding behind the sofa A2 - Abstract, but not in their usual total darkness way B1 - Rough dancefloor computer funk B2 - Another rough dfloor vibe From these clips, I think this might be one of my favourite Ultradyne releases! 154: Mentalist nice marsel : ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) since we're busy...
We released 1000 copies of this. We did send promos out as well. At that time we were mostly dealing only with Hardwax and Formic for the most part. Marsel // Nomorewords.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/10/2004 05:43 AM To 313 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) since we're busy... it was out only on promo, i believe 50 copies or some? bought mine at Clone, somewhere '97 by luck, as I normally don't buy promo's but prefer to wait for the real release -- Nomorewords.net Bentinckstraat 66-2 1051 GN Amsterdam The Netherlands fax +31-20-486-9624 - Original Message - From: placid [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 11:37 AM Subject: RE: (313) since we're busy... The orig ultradyne is up there with the clarence g in terms of difficulty to obtain.. I believe... been looking for a while but no luck..
RE: (313) Trevor Horn Fans Rejoice
Here is a KW connection from Detroit: http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=6436 Peace, Alex Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/19/2004 02:17 PM To Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject RE: (313) Trevor Horn Fans Rejoice If he has anything to do with Jay-Z, I hate him ;) -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 4:48 PM To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) Trevor Horn Fans Rejoice He's amazing. God, where do you start? It's not just production, he's an MC, but it's more confessional (?) than your lyrical MC. He has a real humour and candour in his work - as exemplified by his single Jesus Walks. He's conscious but not afraid to be inconsistent as most people are. His album is The College Dropout and he masterminded the old soul feel of The Blueprint, arguably the best Jay-Z album, Alicia Keys' You Don't Know My Name, Janet's I Want You (only decent song on her latest) and Brandy's Talk About Us... and that big song by Twista, Slow Jamz. His work on the new Consequence (cousin of Q-Tip) LP is great. Who is this Kanye West everyone's going on about? An RnB producer? -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 5:15 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Trevor Horn Fans Rejoice -- Original Message -- From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last few albums maybe not. ;) Word is that he wanted to part ways with Trevor for this album but after a few attempts came back. I think the partnership is stale. Interesting to hear him with someone like Daniel Lanois or Kanye West... or Eno. yeah well that last album i didnt htink too highly of, the one before it i liked. i hear you on lanois or eno, not kanye though. that would be too trendy of a pick, seal is a little more timeless than that. not that theres anything wrong with kanye, i like his stuff just fine. if i was going to choose, id love to see what Flood could do with seal. that would be the hotness. tom andythepooh.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated.. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Gerald Donald
He is alive and well. He values his privacy and does not like to be in the spotlight at all, as you've noticed. Peace, Alex Did you get any response to this Emile? I thought we'd more or less established Gerald Donald is the 'Dopplereffekt' half of the erstwhile Drexciya duo. I've found it can take some persistence to get a response on 313 for this type of enquiry. The problem is that 1) despite appearances there are fewer people who've been around long enough or are deep enough into the music to know such things as this - which despite the influence of all things Drexciyan, is still a very specialized subject. 2) The poeple who do know are either tired of dispensing their wisdom or wary of doing so or maybe just jealously guard it (which seems a bit dumb, but I've know it to be the case). There are certain people who do know. However Emile, don't forget the electro heads you know so well yourself!! Have you asked Kurt or Rob about any of this stuff? Or the rebels? -Original Message- From: Emile Facey (Plant43) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:24 AM To: 313 Subject: (313) Gerald Donald As a fan of all things Drexcyen I often wonder what this guy is doing now. Anyone out there got any info? E
Re: (313) Shootings at the fireworks?
Jobot, While I agree with many of the points made in your post, no one to my knowledge, has been shot during the music festival. None of the people that I know from out of town (and I know my fair share from this list, etc) has ever voiced a concern about coming to Detroit because of fears that you are voicing. Hell, it would could if TT's could put a poll up to see if this stopped people from coming vs. being starved of information because of disorganization by insert beaten dead horse here. This violence and less than perfect surroundings that you say make people think twice about coming here is the formula for the synthesis of the techno music scene in Detroit and resulted in this festival happening here. I have always felt more threatened at the ethnic festivals that happen in Detroit that I ever have at the DEMF. I also once witnessed one of my good friends get robbed an beaten at one of these and we didn't even know it was him because of the amount of feet that were hitting his face into the pavement (he was walking half a block from us at the time and we were downtown taking pictures circa 1987). Is there a lot screwed up in Detroit? Hell yes! Are people going to stop coming because some idiot/psycho/moron decided to go on a shooting rampage on Jefferson over some glasses? Maybe. But maybe that same person will remember that this is the epitome of a random act. That could have happened anywhere. Just because it happened in Detroit people should stop coming here. That's the solution. With every person that comes here, the energy of the city changes. Forsaking a place that many outsiders had such good experiences and got to new/old friends from around the world is not the proper answer for the acts of a few individuals. It is a shame what happened. It's more of a shame that many will have your reaction to it. Peace, Alex and the Metro Times wonders why Movement isn't financially successful. Earth to the city of Detroit: to attract tourism dollars, you have to provide a safe environment, easy transportation, and places for people to spend those dollars. Festival shootings, con-artist cabbies, shady hotels, and a shuttered downtown -- especially when there's 300,000 thirsty partygoers just across Jefferson -- do not provide an environment that many are willing to return to. Lineup announcement be damned; THIS is what people are concerned about when they consider travelling to Detroit. - jobot - Original Message - From: Dennis DeSantis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:38 am Subject: (313) Shootings at the fireworks? http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=519ncid=519e=3u=/ap/20040624/ ap_on_re_us/fireworks_shooting Anyone have more info on this? Terrible - I used to love going downtown for that when I was a kid. -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
(313) Fest Pics
More fest pics if anyone is interested (these are interspersed with other pics of people and Detroit, but there is a thumbnail mode...) http://public.fotki.com/alugo242/festival_pic_journal/ Peace, Alex
Re: (313) my movement photos
I first ran into the infamous chicken at Foran's on one of their off nights (I think it was a Wednesday). Just visualize sitting in an Irish pub and turning around and seeing this guy in a chicken costume..pretty funny. The phrase is actually a website whose content is pretty lame overall (imsickandtiredofwhitegirls.com ?). The phrase just cathes certain people as funny (me included..I bought 2 shirts on the spot..so did many others). There were several people wearing them during the fest, andf it was even funnier depending on who had them on. My favorite was an old white couple holding hands cruising around. I guess the joke may be a cultural thing. When I came home wearing the shirt my wife just started laughing, so it does the job I guess. Peace, Alex can anyone explain to me those Sick and tired of white girls T-Shirts (see the chicken below) there must be a joke or reference i'm not getting here. robin... On 8 Jun 2004, at 03:09, lisa wrote: cool pix Kent :) can anyone explain what's up with this person/chicken? http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/movement2004/Hannah/66.html
RE: (313) white girls
Exactly..it reminds me of the Dick and Jane shirts of the late 80's..stick figure cartoons..the most famous was the See Dick Drown shirt with the stick figure drowning in the sea.. Peace, Alex Hmmm, if we really read into it we might be able to come up with something but is it really worth the time? It's a joke site - relax Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 list 313@hyperreal.org 4.co.uk cc: Subject: RE: (313) white girls 06/08/04 12:34 PM Anyone troubled by this? What do they mean by sick and tired of white girls? -Original Message- From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 4:32 PM To: 313 list Subject: Re: (313) white girls On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, matrix313 wrote: i think the web site for the t-shirt is www.sickandtiredofwhitegirls.com maybe theres more info there? I havent looked as I havent quite given them up yet ;^) If you look at that site, the whole thing is about half way between a drunken fraternity prank and performance art. They're apparently based in or near Detroit, but they have videos of them doing their thing in various cities.. It's mildly amusing to watch a drunk white girl try to say why she's sick and tired of white girls. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) white girls
That is the best part, seeing who the wearer is in my opinion. To me it seemed most of these people just got a chuckle out of the phrase (as I did) and were crazy enough to wear it around town. My wife is white and she had no problems with me wearing it other than just shaking her head at me. I think it requires a distinct taste in humor (like people who enjoy black comedy..pardon the pun) Peace, Alex It's a meme they're trying to establish. It means whatever you want it to mean. I've always gotten the impression that when it came to ethnic and racial differences, it's bad cricket to make fun of people of color, or 'white' people who have been treated badly, like the Italians and Irish. But affluent white people from America and Europe are fair game. I'm not saying that I think anyone should be ridiculed based on a stereotype, just that making fun of the traditional oppressor groups doesn't sting as much. I don't think a booth at Movement selling i'm sick and tired of black girls would have been very well received by anyone, black or white. So perhaps I'm sick and tired of white girls is a critique on stereotypes and prejudice, presented with some humor. If a white girl wears it, is she expressing self loathing? If a black or hispanic or asian girl wears it, is it jealosy? If a black man wears it, is he saying he's down with sisters exclusively? If a white man wears it does it mean he's made a sexual fetish of skin color? On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Robert Taylor wrote: Anyone troubled by this? What do they mean by sick and tired of white girls?
Re: (313) Timeline (WAS RE: (313) Movement report (for alex :P))
Hi Alex! No, we didn't record it...we usually never do. If the people putting it on want to, that's fine with us, but we don't ususally have time to bother with it. Thanks JT for the props! Like I said when I met you, it's always nice to put a face to the ASCII. Yeah, the sound at the show was indeed very sketchy..no monitors to speak of, etc. but hell, we're so used to something being wacky at our shows that you try do your best to deal with it. Not as much fun as the Cleveland show as far as our own personal enjoyment, but definitely a bigger crowd, so that's cool. One of our fellow 313 peeps (who shall remain nameless) almost managed to get himself thrown out of the UR gig for taking pics. He was able to stay after deleting said material from his camera. He said the venue was interesting...white walls and no smoking inside (there was a back patio). That's about all I got out of him..:) Peace, Alex Man, I keep hearing how good the Timeline show was...can anyone get us a fairly detailed report on it? Tracks, venue, crowd, etc. Also whether Mike had a balaclava on. Thanks. Yeah, I need to know what colour socks Buzz Goree had on as well if anyone has a minute. ; ) I know this is a bit of an ask, but does anyone know if they recorded this party at all? h, I hope they did. or how's about the Ultradyne? Alex did you record it? or flippin 'eck, did anyone record anything? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) my personal experience at movement
The government in the city is so f*cked up right now that even if they wanted to support this festival, they really would not have the money. Now there's the scandal with the mayor (check Metro Times for the drama). The city does not support the hip hop summit, the mayor does. He's on the panel every year, which is a bit pretentious when the panel usually includes the likes of Russell Simmons (picture Kwame Kilpatrick on the panel anything dealing with techno and you'll get how ludicrous that is). I seriously think he does the hip hop thing gearing up for his next career when they boot him out. I don't think the city is deliberately milking us, but they are deliberately letting something that obviously brings a lot of people to the city go down the tubes. Granted, they are not the only ones at fault. I for one, would argue that if the majority of the festival planning was completed in a timely fashion, tickets should be sold if that's what it takes. I don't think we would complaing if we all had to pay 50 bucks for the whole weekend, or something like that. If it give the organizers a budget to work with, it should happen. They just have to come correct: get the lineup set, maybe even take some interactive suggestions from the fans, come up with the lineup, set up pre-ticketing, then go to some sponsors with some real numbers. Nothing would impress a company more that some real numbers; not the fact that it's a free festival and that a lot of people come each year. And like someone said on detroitluv, have someone with a keener pulse on what's happening in Detroit and elsewhere in the world to work on the lineup. Too many trumpets and not enough Akai, Roland, etc. gear on the main stage this year. It was interesting to note that the slogan this year on the banners was Saving the world from bad music. If you're going to put some sh*t like that on a banner, back it up with extreme prejudice. And although many people talk about it, there is an ego monster killing this from within right now. If these people can't work well together, they need to move on. Everyone, including us, needs to wake up and realize that the idea of a free festival, while noble, was unrealistic from the get. Derrick May also needs to realize that he needs to stop being a martyr (bringing up how the festival is free to anyone that will listen..we know this) and make people pay to come see this, but also give them something folks would be willing to drop 50-100 dollars to experience. It's pretty sad when you have consistently better techno being dropped at a booth (Nefarious) that in the main bowl. On a positive note, I thought the crowd was a bit more balanced this year and all in all the weather was markedly better. Monday was a sunny day that reminded me of the first festival. Peace, Alex I'm not saying anything negative about the Derrick,Kevin and co.. it's my city Detroit I'm talking about the city does not support the music like they do other events, just a couple weeks ago they had the hip hop summit, which was supported. The city sees our event as a chance to milk us listeners for the money, but not kick out any... These are the same reasons why many artist have left the city... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 10:48 AM To: Steward, Tim; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement was Red Bull there this year? I can't even remember if it was last year -doh!- but Red Bull in Europe do alot for clubs/events etc they really go out of there way to help...but as you say blue chips would be good as well as bigger brands also Vestax are good for events but off course you gotta use Vestax's thru and thru which aint bad ..I am sure they tried all avenues but to be honest I find it hard ebough myself just dealing with family/work/djing and producing net along trying to organise a free event for the masses so hats off to Derrick, Kevin and Co... -Original Message- From: Steward, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 02/06/2004 15:38 To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: RE: (313) my personal experience at movement Yes the city does help out with some of the other festivals But there is also tons of sponsors at other events, the booth rental rates were too much for a small business to jump on at least for me. These were the cost $200.00 to the city for license $2200 for the 10x10 booths with no sides $3700 for the 12x12 booth with sides. so on the low end a small business would need to sell $2400 worth of merchandise just to break even. So for me it was not in my budget. There were no major sponsors at all, a couple years ago Ford was a major sponsor, and I work for a big computer company that moved downtown last year
Re: (313) the most heard tracks/top tunes @ Movement
Yeah, there was this group on the main Sunday (around 6?) that were trying to get the crowd into it and they were doing a cross house/gospel/soul thing. The people sitting in the bowl looked like they were all experiencing general malaise at not hearing techno even in its most homogenous form. I think they would have been happier even with the most commercial trance. Don't get me wrong, the band was really musically speaking as far being musicians, but that why there's the Jazzfest. It was definitely night and day from when Ayro got down on the main stage last year, even with all of the live musicians he had backing him up, you could feel the electronic portion of his set. And when he created his percussion patterns live and recorded them into his set on the fly (very nice). It would have been cool to see Dan Bell in the underground stage this year..definitely one my highlights last year. I went to a loft party Saturday night at Nikki's that was hot as the freaking Congo, but the music was hot. Still don't know who was playing (too fried to ask any questions by that point. It went until seven but around 5:30 this blonde guy came with the craziest combination of sounds and structures that was exactly what the moment called for. At first everyone was thinking he had destroyed his laptop/speakers etc. but it ended up being part of the whole affair. Very refreshing even if the locale was not because of the heat. I'm going to drop all of the pics I took somewhere soon. All in all..really enjoyable weekend... Peace, Alex P.S. Thanks to anyone on here that came out to the Ultradyne show on Sunday. Good to see a decent crowd for one of our shows in Detroit... /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/01/2004 02:28 PM To 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject Re: (313) the most heard tracks/top tunes @ Movement too much terrible vocal house IMO. had it not been for the underground stage, I'd have skipped monday and possibly sunday night. sorry to hate, just being honest. -Joe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 10:07 AM Subject: (313) the most heard tracks/top tunes @ Movement I'm sure most of you who went aren't back yet - but Alex and I want answers! ;) So - which tracks did you hear the most and which ones were the top? Any new tracks that made their debuts that we should be on the lookout for? can't wait to see pictures MEK
(313) Forward for Chicago and Detroit peeps rarin' for a road trip...
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE--THE PURE SONIK SESSIONS CONTINUE ON JUNE 3RD WITH BEN SIMS + DJ T-1000: ALL NIGHT LONG CHICAGO -- After the success of THE PURE SONIK SESSIONS 01 with OLIVER HO, MIKE DEARBORN (LIVE), and Detroit-born, Chicago-based organizer/resident DJ T-1000 (aka ALAN OLDHAM), we go from strength to strength with the second episode; THE PURE SONIK SESSIONS 02: BEN SIMS and DJ T-1000, Thursday, June 3rd, at Smartbar Chicago. It's been over five years since London's Mr. Sims has visited Chicago, and we at Pure Sonik Records are proud to sponsor his return. His tribal, Latin-tinged productions on his Theory, Ingoma, and Hardgroove record labels have made dancefloors move worldwide, as have his remixes for such well-known names as Jeff Mills, Chris Liebing, Adam Beyer, and Mark Broom, among others. As a promoter, his London-based Split night has taken the capital by storm, showcasing the talents of such international stars as Surgeon, Dave Clarke, Oliver Ho, Paul Mac, A Guy Called Gerald, Derrick May, and DJ T-1000 himself. In fact, it was Oldham's gig at Split last year that was one of the inspirations for THE PURE SONIK SESSIONS! As a DJ, Mr. Sims combines tight, compressed tribalism with old-school hip-hop influences; scratches and quick cuts, a three-deck assault that takes no prisoners, as evidenced on his import-only Escapism and Theory of Interpretation mix CDs. Meanwhile, the aforementioned DJ T-1000 is no slouch. This time, though, he's flipping the script and showing off his old-school roots in a more wide-ranging opening set which will encompass some Wax Trax-era industrial favorites as heard on his career-defining Fast Forward Public Radio program back in the day. To hear what Fast Forward sounded like firsthand, check out www.alanoldham.com. Smartbar 3730 N. Clark St. Two blocks north of Wrigley Field Chicago, IL Showtime: 10 pm. No warm-up act. Admission: $15. Ladies free between 10-11 p.m. Dress code: No scrubs. Giveaways with paid admission courtesy of Pure Sonik Records. Special thanks to Steven Tang. www.bensims.com www.puresonikrecords.net www.alanoldham.com THE PURE SONIK SESSIONS: Stylish, funky and always international (tm). Coming August 12th: THE PURE SONIK SESSIONS 03: DETROIT REUNION with the return of DJ BONE + ULTRADYNE LIVE (FIRST-EVER CHICAGO APPEARANCE AND THE MOST EVIL ELECTRO YOU'VE EVER HEARD) + DJ T-1000. Please forward this press release to any interested parties. # # #
Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
LOLOL! You do have a point! I too have gotten the wave through. How in the hell can they consider waving cars secure?!? You're absolutely right...there is no method to their madness... -- Peace, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During that whole period I was only stopped once Oh, I've also gone through WITHOUT stopping the car at all. Literally, I was waved through by a border guard without a question ever being asked. My point was simply that it's random and entirely unorganized. One day, it's total lockdown. The next day, it's Al Qaeda Open House. -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
Re: AW: (313) no (ellen) alliens in nyc
Well, I have to draw the line there..! I can't anyone for that..I too have a special fondness in my heart for Canadian girls..:) But to keep this somwaht OT..what is the current climate over in Windsor when it comes to techno..any good events happening over there as of late? Is thinkbox still around? Peace, Alex Even better than waving cars through - flirting with young Canadian girls on their way to school. Unless asking people on dates is some secret immigration technique to weed out terrorists... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LOLOL! You do have a point! I too have gotten the wave through. How in the hell can they consider waving cars secure?!? You're absolutely right...there is no method to their madness... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During that whole period I was only stopped once Oh, I've also gone through WITHOUT stopping the car at all. Literally, I was waved through by a border guard without a question ever being asked. My point was simply that it's random and entirely unorganized. One day, it's total lockdown. The next day, it's Al Qaeda Open House. -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http:// hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: (313) Movement Fest Article...
I think the word you are looking for is clusterf*ck...:). Or as Derrick May would say, it is what it is... Peace, Alex Saunderson is performing in Amsterdam, but as recently as last week told the Free Press he wouldn't endorse the fest in its present state. No Detroit artists have been contacted, he said at the time. I will only be involved if the communication is clear. I'm trying to figure this out - does this mean that Saunderson is or isn't involved? Because at the top of the article it says The Free Press has learned that a Hart Plaza usage permit will be issued this morning by the City of Detroit to a new group called Movement 2004, a limited liability corporation made up of DJs Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson and Detroit businessman Raymond Owens. Wouldn't that mean he can't really say that he's not endorsing the festival if the permit is in the name of the LLC that he is a member of. So, they had a disagreement with Owens, patched things up, and now they are going ahead with it? I'm just not following the chronology of this - the article isn't really making it clear where everyone stands. MEK Chris Anglesey [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org lworld.com cc: Subject: (313) Movement Fest Article... 05/05/04 02:03 PM check this out... http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/move5_20040505.htm
Re: (313) behind the scenes movement shenanigans
And the fact that the environment downtown has changed drastically from the last couple of years. There are so many new places that are open down there now that it's starting to remind me of downtown in the mid 80's. I think many people will be surprised that haven't seen it since last year. Peace, Alex It sounds like business as usual for Movement -- lots of behind the scenes drama, a cliffhanger as to what will happen, no lineup announced, etc. The usual craziness. I will be there. Otto will be there. KJ will be there. Greg will be there. Marie will be there. Fred will be there. Mother-effing Tristan will be there. What more do you people want? ;-) Seriously though, the 7th City party is reason enough to go to Detroit.
Re: (313) OT Prince LP
Some of my coworkers went to the show in Cleveland this weekend. They all agreed that it rocked. Lot of oldies. I think the Detroit show sold out 3 nights?? Not sure... -- Peace, Alex On Apr 19, 2004, at 7:35 AM, Cobert, Gwendal wrote: I think it started with All the ctritics love you in New York, back at the end of 1999 ? which, to bring it all back to 313, was sampled/re-edited to all hell by KDJ on his absolutely amazing doublepack 'U Can Dance If U Want 2'. I've lost count now of how many Kenny/Theo/3 Chairs tracks have sampled Prince.. and to usually to great effect. I'm excited because I got tickets to see the Musicology tour here in June, supposedly lots (most?) of older material this time around, yay. There must be detroit dates for this tour, right? I mean, how many consecutive Purple Rain shows were sold out in Detroit that one time?? I would actually consider going to Detroit to see him there too, just because the crowd will be so nuts for it (kinda like that Kraftwerk tour stop) peace -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
(313) The Works
Hi All, Anyone know who's playing at The Works tonight? Detroitluv seems to be down at the moment... Danke, Alex
Re: RE: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs
You can take it further than that..in the 80's Belleville was considered the country around here. Growing up in Detroit the suburbs were places like Southfield, Troy, the Grosse Pointes, Dearborn, etc. The removal of manufacturing plants from this area, as well as the onset of crack in the late 70's onwards was a huge culprit to the problems faced today. Many blame the riots, but the industrial sector continued to thrive into the 70's from what I saw. All of our neighbors worked at a plant and drove new rides. If you could afford to live in suburban areas like Belleville, your family was doing pretty good financially. There is no way this area is ever going to amount to sh*t if an educational base cannot be established. Who would move their family to an area of such unstable education institutions? While I know that many of you have done so, take a drive around Detroit next time you come for the DEMF, etc. Some areas could be classified as living time capsules. There hasn't been ANY improvements in some areas since the 60's or later. I'm still trying to figure out what good casinos are doing in the city if THEY can't use that money to stop something like the elimination of teachers from happening. a shame.. Peace, Alex Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/05/2004 12:02 PM To 313 list 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: RE: (313) Detroit schools to cut 3,200 jobs Keep in mind that the 'big 3' in techno met up in high school out in Belleville, which is pretty suburban. Life in inner city Detroit is pretty desparate, and despite the positive changes to the city in the past few years, life is NOT getting better for a lot of Detroit residents. The cuts to the school are draconian, and criminal. They further degrade one of the very few positive things the government does to help poor people improve their lot. On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm ... I should have been more explicit ... what I was thinking about was the idea of creative beautiful things emerging from crappy, disadvantaged or difficult situations. why that is, I'm not sure. but it seems to be a theme.
Re: (313) wanted...
We've had no trouble getting into France in the last couple of years. Mind you, we've had a substantial amount of baggage (flight cases, etc.). Never had a problem of any kind. Then again, we're not DJ's..but I think we'd have a harder because of the baggage situation and explaining it all. I'm a big fan of using the jedi mind trick to get past customs officials...:) Peace, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/24/2004 05:45 PM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) wanted... anyone know of any american djs who have had problems getting permission to perform overseas. i know lots have trouble getting into america, but does any americans have trouble going to, say france?
Re: Fw: Re: (313) hotel stuff / movement personal ad
I saw Mark's room...it was phat! Already booked one there for this year. Only thing though it's rather difficult (not impossible) to bring in a large cache of your own alcoholic beverages to enjoy in your room. They stopped us last year for a 12 pack. Peace, Alex Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/23/2004 08:24 PM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Fw: Re: (313) hotel stuff / movement personal ad Paging Greg Earle . . . for a second opinion . . . fh -- mail forwarded, original message follows -- To: 313@hyperreal.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark S. Krüx Subject: Re: (313) hotel stuff / movement personal ad Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 19:25:05 -0500 It's all about the Atheneum...period.
Re: (313) movement 04
Righty right, Stewart! The only difference between Atomly and Derrick May at this point is that he's done one festival. I'm sure he had a learning curve to overcome last year. But to say say that Atomly doesn't have a right to his opinion because he's never done it before is an empty argument. I too was a bit curious as to the lack of a VARIETY of live acts last year. And before anyone says there was this and that one playing live, yes there were a lot. There were also several of those live acts that played several times at different stages no less. I really applaud the fact that many of these performers decided to play for free. But, then again, who wouldn't?!? I think they could have easily filled the empty slots with hungry new talent from here and elsewhere easily. There are a lot of DJs and live acts that would have done it simply for the exposure, and many of them were here for the festival anyway, so no travel fees to worry about. I don't think that anyone was ever debating the fact that putting on a festival of this magnitute is a pain in the blankety-blank, but there is always room for progress and change for the better. If not, they should have just stopped after the success of the first year. Peace, Alex Stewart Caig [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/16/2004 05:17 PM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) movement 04 i have no problem with people making valid criticism. i hate seeing someone who is just being ignorant trying to tear down something do great like he could do better. pshaw. good luck man. when's the yearly ATOMLY ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL gonna start featuring groundbreaking performers from all over the world? ha. crap analogy Its like, I went and saw that Cold Mountain and thought it kinda sucked. But I couldn't begin to make a movie like it, nor can I really comprehend the effort that must have gone into it. Does that make my opinion invalid? I dont think so. I look at things from an end product point of view, regardless of any other factors that went into it. If something sucks, I call it. /crap anlogy
Re: (313) axis
Hi KJ, I'd really like to hear what he is doing for the community. While I agree wiuth the fact that there is no law out there that says he has to do anything, I would really like to know what the perception is as to what he is doing (a lot of). The argument that he has more overhead than others so has to charge more, is insane to say the least. Maybe smaller labels are not doing adverts in full color in magazines, but they are doing way more for this community at this point by providing variety. I wonder what Jeff and Mad Mike would have thought of someone charging this much for a record 10 years ago. Do you think he is helping or supporting this community in any way by doing so? If yes, then buy 10 copies. My standing argument that I have discussed with many people on and off this list is that these same originators, or whatever you may call them, are where they are because of many of your hard earned dollars. While this in no way makes him beholding to his fans, many of the ideologies that have been spewed about what techno is really about have been overshadowed by capitalism. No one is saying that he should not make any money. That's great! Everyone should be so lucky. But what if he and others in his position could take it further than that! Galvanize this community through festivals (lukewarm overall), seminars, clubs (gasp!), and the development of new players in the game. There is so much more that could have been done by him and others to truly place them on a pedestal, which many people here have done. One expects more from icons. If he's trying to make a difference, them I'm smoking crack. There are thousands of producers out there trying to make a difference at this stage. This verbage is tired when not followed by action worthy of support. In any other industry, as stated in the email below, someone of his stature would have more control of the final price of his product. I guarantee that if he was against the selling of his product for this price, he could blacklist some distributors without blinking an eye. That, again, would be something admirable to see. I, for one, won't be holding my breath. The only way to deal with this situation is to leave your cash in you wallet or purse. If you don't want too, that's fine, but just remember how much you paid for this record when the next one is even higher. If I were a Mills fan that wanted to buy everything he ever did, I would consider this a slap in the face. That's my opinion... The following statement is the most refreshing one I have seen on here in a long time: Atomly wrote: I think artists/musicians/whatever have a responsibility to their community beyond just releasing records-- art is not created inside some sort of a vacuum. You may disagree with me, and that's fine, but that's how I feel and that influences how and where I spend my money. I think that Jeff Mills has a certain responsibility to help foster the American electronic music scene being that he is an electronic musician from the United States. It's like he took what he needed from Detroit/Chicago and then just turned his back on them. It's not like he invented techno, despite what some of you may think, but rather was introduced to a fertile art scene and is not acting to maintain that scene at all but instead is essentially plundering and pilfering whatever he can from the apparently willing fans. Kudos to you for the above. Many people here think this is a negative statement, but it is true of so many people other than Jeff Mills. Anybody is capable of saving a life, Badi. If I have to wait around for him to do it, I'd be dead. :) I don't dislike him Jeff as a person, but I think a lot of moral flexibility has been given to these icons in this community. This has become a class/caste system in the worst sense. If any one of 100 other producers in Detroit would come out with a record at this price, you all would die of laughter. But I guess him spending x hours in the studio is infintely more valuable, and the price has been passed along to you, the consumer. Hmm, I wonder if it sounds better to your ears the more expensive a record is.. Peace, Alex atomly [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/14/2004 03:43 PM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) axis [kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Yes this is a statement, Jeff Mills invests a lot of his money back into Detroit and to help the people who need it. He is doing a lot for the community! He sure hasn't done much for Chicago, having lived here for years. I see him hang out at the bar when Derrick May or Cisco Ferreira plays here and that's about it. The man could singlehandedly redefine the American techno scene but won't because he's too full of himself to care. Also keep in mind that after he drops the records at the distributors he kinda looses control about the price. A lot of shops want to cash in on limited edition Axis records
Re: (313) axis
Thank you pleidy, for understanding and expanding on my point. Peace, Alex - Original Message - But what if he and others in his position could take it further than that! Galvanize this community through festivals (lukewarm overall), seminars,clubs (gasp!), and the development of new players in the game. Uh, yeah - he does all of this. It's called Musik und Machine. http://www.musikundmaschine.com/index_flash.html Thats in Germany though. To simplify my previous post in light of the last couple posts: I sort of see this issue as comparable to the difference between socialism and capitalism. The capitalists head over to Europe where the capital is at for the dance music industry. The socialists are community driven and are in it primarily for the general welfare and progression of the local community. Of course there are many in-betweens, but underground music scenes have traditionally avoided capitlist structures- sometimes as a philosophical reaction against the state of the mainstream music industry, and sometimes as an involuntary action due to lack of resources. When it comes down to business, there are many opposing viewpoints both within and outside the underground community. I think the opinions in this thread have been reflecting those various philosophies of the dance community and are all worthy of consideration.
Re: (313) techno, mills, yadda yadda
While I didn't consider myself bitching about this record price, I did say was that it was insane to pay that high of a price for a limited 2000 record release. But for the sake of anyone who is, legitimately, voicing their concerns about the price of this record, I do not think it is lame at all. What's lame is charging this much for a record. I don't care who it is! If you can't see that, there is really nothing more to say. Full time Djs: 1. DJ. 2. Buy a lot of records. 3. Practice. This is taken for granted they spend a lot of money for records. I have plenty of friends that do this full time, and I can tell that their shopping cart is not full of $40.00 records. They would be able to survive financially. Lastly, I have the money to come out with a few records, so I do know how marginal the business is, and how difficult it can all be: FOR SOMEONE LIKE ME. I would like to hope it is no longer a marginal venture for someone like Jeff Mills. I think a lot of people on this list have manufactured records, and even if they haven't what is the crux of your argument?!? I don't know what it takes to manufacture a f**king washing machine, but I'm not paying $5,000.00 for one either. To each his own. Peace, Alex And as for record prices -- whatever. Vote with your feet. I know a LOT of DJs who drop big bucks on records all the time. Bitching about record prices is pretty lame. Until you try and manufacture and market records yourself, and understand how marginal a business it really is, you don't really have any room to talk. Either buy the record or don't buy it.
Re: (313) axis
As commendable as you may find that, I don't think Berlin has any problems with its community as far as techno support goes. I was speaking of Detroit when I wrote community. Peace, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/15/2004 10:03 AM To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject Re: (313) axis But what if he and others in his position could take it further than that! Galvanize this community through festivals (lukewarm overall), seminars, clubs (gasp!), and the development of new players in the game. Uh, yeah - he does all of this. It's called Musik und Machine. http://www.musikundmaschine.com/index_flash.html not many other individual artists have done this so I think Jeff is actually on the forefront of doing exactly what you're asking him to do. MEK
(313) Trixie's
12.20.03 An Eclectic Evening With... Mesu Kasumai Detroit (Spivak Records, 8BitPeoples) A. Lugo + D. Richardson (of Ultradyne) Detroit (Pi-Gao Movement, Vidrio Records, Clone, Warp) Adam Francesconi Detroit (Deep Heat Detroit, Logixhouse) DJ Automan Detroit (Seismic Rec., Technology Prod. Inc.) Will Soderberg Detroit (white-rose.net, NETWORK, WRN) Steven Curtin Detroit (Foreign Lands) NO COVER!!! Trixies in Roseville, on gratiot (north of 10 mile) show starts at 9 pm. parking in the rear. venue info: 586.776.9002 adam francesconi - 9pm - 9:30pm dj automan - 9:30pm to 10:30pm mesu kasumai - 10:30pm to 11:00pm dennis richardson - 11pm to 11:30pm alex lugo - 11:30pm to 12:00am steve curtin - 12am to 12:30pm will soderberg - 12:30am to 1:00am for those of you who havent ever been to trixies its just south of 11 mile on gratiot. its on the west side of gratiot and has a big purple awning with a large yin/yang on it. theres parking in the rear of the building and the address is... Trixie's Cafe 25925 Gratiot Ave Roseville, MI http://www.spivakrecords.com/images/dec20th.gif
(313) Paging Dennis Donohue
Please pick up the bat phone. Peace, Alex
(313) The Works
Hi All, Does anyone know who's playing there tonight? Peace, Alex
Re: (313) ot - detroiters still online?
I'm in Detroit. Most cell phones are out, but I was able to reach my sister through Nextel. Looks like most of the northeastern US is without power. Luckily, we have a generator at work... -- Peace, Alex detroit people, i am desperately trying to reach some family members in detroit during this power outage. does anyone's cell phone still work? ani
Re: (313) b-52's
Furthermore, Mesopotamia got heavy rotation here in the 80's. You were just as likely to hear that on any radio station here back in the day. Peace, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/2003 06:59 PM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) b-52's Because it rocks! :) B-52s are from Baltimore, so I doubt there's a tangible [313] connection. the b-52's are from athens, georgia, though i guess you can be excused from thinking they're from baltimore, given their hairstyles :^)
Re: (313) Re: Thomas Dolby was Re: those moxie things
Yep, I think it was called Headspace. It was a very popular site back then. They were actually ahead of their time trying to come up with a streaming format for the internet and sound files in general. The site was almost like Flash before the advent of Flash coding. Peace, Alex James Bucknell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/27/2003 10:37 AM To 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject Re: (313) Re: Thomas Dolby was Re: those moxie things i interviewed thomas dolby a few years back for harper's bazaar. at that point he had a software development company in san fransisco. they'd developed some internet sound ap. james From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 16:10:04 +0100 (BST) To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Re: Thomas Dolby was Re: those moxie things Strange, didn't realize that his dad was *that* Dolby. Not sure if that's the case. If so, why did Dolby Labs conduct a long-running litigation on him for the use of his real surname, 'Dolby'? Virtually finished his career. Know what he does now? Makes stings/jingles for consumer/business electronic appliances (like mobile 'phones). www.lexiconmagazine.com/NWC/Now/dolby.html well from that link his real name aint Dolby... also i see he nicked the name of his company from Tom Churchill's label :) looks like he got his sound stuff accepted into Java so he isn't doing too bad... robin...
(313) DEMF Hotels
For those who were looking at hotel prices this year: A friend of mine from NYC called up the Ren Cen (Marriott). Looks like they finally got wise, and are charging 260 a night now. This, of course, was calling the hotel direct, but last year they were charging about 120 calling them direct. Just a friendly FYI for those preparing their travel budgets... Peace, Alex
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Re: (313) last night (this morning) in detroit...
I guess this is the next spot! I hit this afterparty last weekend at this loft and it was off the hook. This is a sweet loft spot right on Broadway, Detroit style. Last weekend it was Traxx. Next weekend, who knows? Like the guy in the DIA commercials says: You goin'? Peace, Alex Rev. Jeffrey Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/08/2003 12:40 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:(313) last night (this morning) in detroit... the pictures from the marco carola afterparty last night in detroit: http://sneak.datavibe.net/album/viewdir.php?album=20030307-afterparty-carola-hawtin-plaslaiko the flyer hinted at marco carola, and everyone i talked to was expecting him... but i think most were kind of suprised when richie hawtin walked in and tag-teamed with him for 3 hours. i went home at 0700. -j Rev. Jeffrey Paul-datavibe- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim:x736e65616b pgp:0x15FA257E phone:8777483467 70E0 B896 D5F3 8BF4 4BEE 2CCF EF2F BA28 15FA 257E
