[313] don't forget the glowsticks!
and I dont endorse the drug culture thats been paralleling the techno scene in the US for 3-4 years now. wow, people have been using drugs while listening to techno for 3 whole years? i thought that trend started last june! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] jeff mills
have you guys heard his new track the bells? it's rockin! !!Troll Alert!! whoa, you caught me! and here i thought i was being sly. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] jeff mills
have you guys heard his new track the bells? it's rockin! chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] DJ Mags Top 100 DJs
hey wait...someone said only 1 dj from detroit. well i would like to consider Richie Hawtin from detroit...even though canada is kinda far away from there, it is still close enough for me. a couple of bucks drive ain't that far from detroit... yeah, windsor is much closer to detroit at 1.7 miles than belleville (home of the belleville three) is at 29.1 miles. in fact, you'd probably pay more in gas driving to detroit from magic juan's birthplace of techno home than you would for the bridge or tunnel toll coming from rich's home. i guess it depends on whether or not you're driving the fuel efficient detroit techno ford focus. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] FnalScratch package price
Subject: Re: [313] F!nalScratch package price how much is the software without the laptop? It will be free. Thanks to our friends at Rad!um (et al) and peer to peer traders like Kzaa and Morpheu5, no one will ever need to buy software again (or until there is a universal distributed app system). a whole hell of a lot of good it'll do you without the hardware that goes along with it, too. Since we're all OK with pirating music, why continue discussing the cost of FS software? Are we all suddenly concerned about supporting software programmers, manufacturers and distributors? i think you're making a lot of foolish assumptions with this statement. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] FinalScratch package price
You can run beos and windows on the same system.. On mac it used to come with a little application you run that boots the system into beos. Too bad beos has not that many apps but its pretty nice to use. only finalscratch pro will run on BeOS. The commercial version, according to the email N2IT sent out a couple days ago, will run on linux. i can forward the email if anyone's interested. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Finalscratch info (fwd)
here's the mail from n2it, minus the order form. I think you can find that on their page if you want it. chris www.chrisege.net -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 09:19:36 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Finalscratch info Hello DJ, You have visited our website and left your address, sometimes with very interesting remarks about FINALSCRATCH. In the consumer version, running under Linux, FINALSCRATCH will be available early next year. But, a PRO version, called FINALSCRATCH ProFS, running under BeOS is sold as a completely configured system right now. We ship it with selected tracks from the catalogue of Plus 8 and Definitive Records. You can have it and play it in a week! Check out the attached offer and order form to see the complete package that we offer. Than fill out the form or go to www.finalscratch.com to download an order form, fax it to us and we'll contact you to deal with the details. Order now, there is only a limited number of ProFS systems available. With kind regards, N2IT Development Jan Abercrombie Note: it could have happened that someone else filled in your e-mail address on our web page, without your consent. In this case we apologize for the inconvenience and ask you to contact us so that we can remove your e-mail address from our database. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RE: [313] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] everywhere
Mr. Woolums has taken the words RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH! How advanced is a piece of equipment that can finally do today what certain Detroit Djs could do 12 years ago? Where is the progress in TALENT? All this does is make it easier for djs who lack the ability to do it by hand. Instead of raising the bar, they lowering it and trying to step over. word! I totally agree! computers are totally ruinging electronic music! I mean, where's the TALENT in pushing some buttons, or twisting a knob? whatever happened to what a few guys, ONLY IN DETROIT, did 12 years ago, like PLAY THE DRUMS, or LEARN THE GUITAR? That's what techno music is about, RAW SKILL. anything that makes it easier for someone to express tehmselves creatively, like say a computer, is a CRUTCH. it's BULLSHIT. it should be MOCKED. How can some foolish upstart who's not even from detroit, some moron canadian, possibly think he can start calling himself a so-called tecno dj when he uses a COMPUTER? I for one, am shocked an appalled! who's up for a turntable jam session! come to my house in belleville, only in detroit! back and proud, jeff mills - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] 2 Free CD's
not funny... i bet dj magda could make a funnier website! chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] WTC - Nostrodamas prediction
There is no way i could understand someone would believe that Nostradamus predicted this. He wrote so generic things that they would fit in whatever situation possible. Remember in the 80's, people were telling that Nostradamus predicted heavy-rock? yeah, sure.. nostradamus predicted parts of our bowling game last night when he wrote the child of light's third numbers will be seven and three. lo and behold, my buddy matt rolled a seven and a three in the third frame! er, yeah., sorry. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Anyone know about Finalscratch (maybe OT)
This is where I see a market for something like Final Scratch; you can leave your precious, limited-edition, glow-in-the-dark vinyl, autographed hand-numbered record at home still take the music on that record with you. Maybe you take along a few mp3's of stuff that you don't own (naughty!) or can't find, or something you just wrote yourself. I doubt it's expected or even intended to mark the end of the vinyl record industry. It's a means of *playing* digital media, *not* a means of distribution, so I don't follow these Napster comparisons. If you look at the setup area of the website you'll notice the mixer still has the phono ins set up for playing records the old-fashioned way. (Back in my day, sonny..) I think digital distribution will eventually push out vinyl and cd and every other form of music distribution... but we're talking a long time in the future. clearly finalscratch is an indicator of this trend, as is napster. but there are a lot of economic concerns that'll need to be sorted out first, not to mention the cultural ones that've been brought up so loudly here. it'll be a slow transition, and we won't see it happen for a good 10 or 15 years. for now, i see finalscratch as more of a practical thing than anything. if you're going on a world tour where you do 4 to 6 hour sets every night (as rich and many other djs do), which would you rather lug around? hundreds of pounds of vinyl or a 4 pound notebook? you can carry the laptop on the plane, not worry about it getting lost in transit, listen to your tracks on the plane, whatever. in the future I'm sure we'll see things like finalscratch being able to control your favorite music software, further allowing the blending of live pa and dj set. or who knows what else. i can't see anything that extends your creative capabilities the way this does as anything but a good thing. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] MONOLAKE in NYC tomorrow!!
A special recording session with --- MONOLAKE (Chain Reaction, Monolake Records, Berlin) --- THIS TUESDAY, AUGUST 14TH i saw monolake here in chicago on saturday, and I highly reccomend going. tickets in chicago were $25 and it was well worth it even at that price. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] New Detroit Label
Earth to web designers: please feel welcome to use all the proprietary web display tools you want, but don't make them mandatory and don't lock out the 50% of your potential visitors who don't have them, have low bandwidth, or have low tolerance for designer egomania. I'm hardly the only one who is irate about this: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20001029.html way to cite dr. nielsen. in response: http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/01/26/index1a_page2.html 313 is hardly the appropriate forum for this. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] sweet!
a on richie's dick thread! hopefully this'll liven things up on the list... it's been pretty quiet lately. keep up the good work! www.chrisege.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] dillinja/cybotron
fyi, dillinja has been using the cybotron name since at least 1997, when silver blade was released on grooverider's prototype years compilation. so i'd call this a rather timely display of outrage. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] my boring take on the fhttp://demf
Someone actually asked me who Inner City was! I was dumbfounded...all I could do was sing a couple of tunes to them. No luck. No knowledge. I was soaking them up though (need to tell my friends back home). Once in a lifetime experience. Plus Byron Stingely was a nice surprise (eventhough his great falsetto voice was barely audible from where I was down in the crowd). I really don't think that's all that shocking... remember there was a point when all of us didn't know who inner city was. anyway, i had a good time... not as good as last year, but i don't think there's much that can live up to last year :) oh, and damn you all for getting into jak! chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] all access special guest
who was the special guest at Planet E's All Access party? kenny dixon jr. played, and i don't think he was listed on the lineup... so i guess that'd make him the special guest? chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] my demf photos are up
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1432522a=13098472f=0 they're on photopoint too, so if for some reason you want to order prints, you could do that :P not all of them will be of interest to everyone, i suppose... but regardless, enjoy. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fwd: demf
Hey did anyone else get this message (see below)? I've been out sick for a couple of days so I was wondering. I got it. s/he also wrote me from a hotmail account, asking me about the t-shirts i was thinking of making at one point. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] considerable schedule change (DEMF)
Mixmaster Morris is not a hip hop DJ or a turtntable wizzard : normally he plays in chill-out arena's... that's all well and good, but we're talking about mixmaster *MIKE* chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] buy one and enhance you demf experience!
http://chicagofun.org/toys/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] )demf update - K.Hand
I hate it when sites run scripts so you can't grab images from them... I was gonna snatch the K.Hand pic. Just a minor inconvienience, I still got it anyways. it works real well on a mac browser, i just dragged it to the desktop. i'm most impressed with the midi tunes though. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Best post ever
YOu should have read it a little better the album is called Confield. uh, wouldn't that be the whole joke? like, the reason it was funny, y'know? maybe? FREE DW! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Best post ever
anything by public effairs. no, don't tell me to check the archives. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] DEMF guide for palm/html!
Hi, So i spent a few hours formatting the demf guide in html that's optimized for viewing on a palm pilot or similar device. (that is, it's just text and a little graphic). it's at http://www.postraveclub.com/demf.html. If you've got a palm pilot with avantgo software, all you have to do is log in at www.avantgo.com and choose create new channel. put in the address listed above, and make sure you've got link depth set to 3. includ images if you want, or don't. There's just a little demf logo at the top, you're not missing much if you don't include it. Then you just need to save the channel, and sync your pilot. That's all there is to it. I'm relying on you all to error-check things for me, and email me with any corrections. PLeas don't write asking for help getting it onto your pda though :) enjoy, chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF schedule for the palm VII
DEMF schedule for the Palm VII! http://www.1235813.com/demf.pqa everyone please thank Chris Ege for the original html docs this was taken from! ...I just basically recompiled as a web clipping app for the palm vii. please also thank mike taylor for compiling the information in the first place. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] demf faq on PDAs
Any chance someone wants to convert the FAQ to a Palm/Visor readable file, or suggest a means to view the file on my Visor Platinum? you can just copy the text out, and paste it into a memo on palm desktop, and then sync it up. A better option would be if someone ever gets it coded into html you could set it as a custom channel on avantgo. That way (if the person who put it into html was so inclined) you could have bold headlines, and they could put in index points for different sections. maybe I'll get bored and do this tonight or something. I'll keep you all informed. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] sickness without recovery
I guess we know now, why Carl was relieved of duties BEFORE the event. So that whomever, could have control of extra money at the last chance. I'll bet Bacardi and miller came to carol marvin and told her they would pay her x amount of dollars, and Carl said no way, thus leading to situation we have... carl is creative director until the end of this years' festival. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] considerable schedule change (DEMF)
kid koala gets a half hour??? kid koala probably only wants a half hour... scratch dj sets rarely go longer than that. why is juan booked for an hour and derrick 2??? maybe because magic juan's dj sets aren't all that magical? *shrug* chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: no subject
i forget where the name comes from but it refers to bottom of the sea, which is where you will be residing after you and/and your vessel sink it's also where you'll be residing if you dare to ask who drexciya is on the 313 list! (gasp!) chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] demf carl craig t-shirts and silkscreen question
hi, this is very off-topic, but at the same time somewhat on-topic. the powers that be may smite me for it, but what's new? I've got a really nice silkscreen sitting around here, as well as some emulsion that's still good, and some suitable silkscreen ink. But I don't have access to an exposing unit. I'd make up a few (NO DON'T ASK ME FOR ONE.) carl craig supporting t-shirts if i had a way of exposing the screen. So does anyone have experience in the ways of ghetto-exposure? Basically I'm thinking a whole lotta lamps, or just plain old sunlight. Trust me, you really don't want me to try to hand-stencil them :P anyway thanks... this may be off-topic but it's for a good cause... a cause that is, by the way, on-topic! :) ps NO DON'T ASK ME FOR ONE I DONT HAVE TIME TO FILL REQUESTS I AM A WORKING MAN. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] miss information
wow, i guess i can get rid of that confusing reason software and just use my tables... yes, please do get rid of that confusing reason software. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Derrick May an arrogant prick! Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired!
'We let him know that we are one, and he has our support, but we just want Detroit to be recognized at the festival, said May. Everybody's coming here to be down with the source -- not the people who imitate the source.' I was going to point out this quote as well... who the hell on that lineup does derrick may consider an imitator? True, it's not detroit talent. But I don't see anyone on there that I'd even remotely call a detroit imitator. It almost sounds like he's trying to imply that anything not from detroit is inherently an imitation. I'd like to think he doesn't have his head that far up his ass, but it's hard to see what else he'd mean. True, the lineup isn't as representative of detroit talent as it was last year, but I'd hardly call anyone on there an imitator. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Carl Craig Fired!
Did anyone else find it funny that none of the performers are listed in Ford's massive ad campaign? Yes! I've noticed and i guess more power to them, but it is quite dis- heartening. where the hell would they put them all? there's like 60 performers! They'd have to be in like 8 point type to fit them all in any sort of print ad. I'm pretty sure it was a conscious decision to list the performers in alphabetical order such that there's no hierarchy of headliners vs supporting acts, so that makes it a little hard for ad designers to pick out a select few to put in an ad. If carl craig, as creative director, had decided to highlight a few performers as headliners, then I'm sure they would've been mentioned in ad campaigns. I know you're all looking for every chance to demonize ford for their involvement, but i think this is more grasping at straws than anything. Why don't you wait and see how things turn out? Then if it sucks afterwards, complain all you want. I might even join in. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF Discussion + Pole on Sonox
Can you all please move the DEMF discussion over to the listgeeks list? That's what it's there for. Subscribe here: talking about a detroit electronic music festival on a detroit electronis music mailing list is so very off-topic. can we please go back to talking about george bush and whether or not we're allowed to mention gear? thanks, because i wouldn't want to alienate any subscribers. chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] FW: [fb] has anyone ever heard of these guys?
Probaly sonar - Barcleona . Spain 14-16 June. Check : http://www.sonar.es nah, it's this: http://www.stlemf.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] DEMF FORD COPERATE SPONSORSHIP
Juan spinning records on a stage that is built out of the back end of a real Ford Focus to close the DEMF. Hmm-mm a little cheesy, maby, but the rumors are flying and it could possibly happen... how about if they made a stage out of a fake ford focus car? would that be better? I think the back end is a little narrow to hold 3 turntables and a mixer anyway... how about you diagram how this stage is going to work? oh and let me guess, you made this rumor up yourself?
Re: [313] All Your Base Are Belong To Us (?)
Hey Gang- Any y'all seen this one? F**kin' wierd (as well as really stupid and annoying)... ?!?!!!? http://www.amiallyourbaseornot.com/ayb.swf no, i don't think anyone's seen this one yet. anyone seen that hamster dance? it's crazy!
Re: [313] Jori Hulkkonen
I just got a copy of his new album When no one is watching We are invisible and really dig it. Other than his mix on Turbo, can anybody recommend anything else or point me in the direction of a website? i highly reccomend the live @ semifinal mix you can find on napster. I think it's recorded off norwegian or finnish radio. anyway, it's excellent stuff. I know there are some good sites with interviews out there... try searching for him on google. chris
Re: [313] Re: ezmlm response/gear talk
People unsubscribing from this list when they get 100+ emails/day mostly about CD burning software is also natural. This is not a production list, and there are many other lists better suited to that topic with a membership that's more likely to answer your questions, or you can just read the FAQs. A lot of people on this list don't care about gear. They only care about music. It's best that we not alienate them and keep the discussion focused on the topic at hand when better forums exist for gear questions. Personally, I find a few messages about something I may or may not care about (gear, in this case) to be far less alienating than people telling me what I am and am not allowed to talk about in a public forum. I don't see how the absence of an admin actively envorcing rules makes everyone think it's their job to be list-vigilantes, enforcing the (intentionally vague, i'd assume) faq as they interpret it. Note that the self policing mentioned in the faq PROBABLY means police yourself. This is, of course, my interpretation. But i find it pretty hard to believe that anyone could interpret self police to mean police others. Also, please refer to the line that says building a gate around a community is never the answer. What if i said track IDs shouldn't be allowed, because a large percentage of the subscribers aren't djs, and don't care for that kind of thing? Am I any more right than you? Not only are abstract discussions of what's on-topic the most off-topic thing I can think of, they discourage the open dialogue that makes a mailing list good. did i humiliate anyone this time? chris
Re: [313] and at the end of the day, it's still a ford (found on
it should also say underneath bad ass boys drive bad ass toys which the other day, my roommate and i saw a sticker that said that on a NEON. i'm kinda perplexed by that. i am wondering if the guy was being serious or facetious since i didn't really get much of a look at the driver. my guess is that since it was in cincinnati, the chance that the driver actually had a sense of humor is slim to none. :P getting even further off-topic I saw a MALIBU the other day... not even a nice malibu, just a crappy family sedan. And it had a huge chevy sticker in the back and around it it said bad ass GIRLS drive bad ass toys. First off, your car isn't a bad ass toy, and second of all, if you want to change boys to girls, you've gotta change toys too or you just look dumb. oh yeah, uh, she was listening to strings of life, or something. yeah. i'm still on-topic arent I?! chris
Re: [313] live recording
What is a good program for recording my own live set on the pc. Windows sound recorder has a 60 second time limit. I need to record a whole set and eat up my hard drive because I love to mix so much and I'd like to spread my glory across the world. you can get a trial version of cool edit 2000 and use that. otherwise, there's the nasty horrible evil software piracy route, which would lead you to a copy of sound forge. but that's immoral, of course. I won't tell you how to do it. chris
RE: [313] Why Im Not Going To DEMF (Autechre)
double-spaced to show how grave this matter really is? who said it was a joke in the first place? chris ege signing off. On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear people would like to laugh with you - but why is that one so funny ? this joke is comparing black culture with farmer culture - - is that the joke about it ? - thanks, it ?s based on an old kind of joke-structure, creating a scurrile situation mixed with situations in real life, to make people and problems in reality look silly. In this case it wasn?t that crazy funky fresh and it was also focusing some serious statements about racism which did get reflected here on the list some weeks ago... try to understand: making jokes about it is destructive It?s good when people talk and keep saying their opinions about racism, cause this subject is difficult for many to talk about it, as it?s also about feelings like fear and hate and it?s about - you . always It would be great if people go to the DEMF and talk about it there over and over and over again ... it?s important to keep on talking, to learn, to realise, to stop and to avoid racism and for you to watch your own steps it?s a very strange move to start making jokes and to make people look silly in this case, even when you think it?s funny talk about it too, if you have something to say but stop making weak jokes about it I do wonder about your motivation to pick out those subjects for this master-piece of work with humor ? and beside all that, the joke was also making people look ridiculous, who are searching, trying to do something and facing some consequences as they are going through life realise - these people almost don?t exist in 2001 anymore It?s the era of new economy - no rules - no consequences but I guess you won?t listen anyway. ok, go ahead funnies. In the meantime let?s wait for some of you ending up in the never-economy. to those, who are too handy and bloated to move, yes you, keep on laughing - sarcasm is gonna f*ck you up m -- --- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] tech-no at DEMF?
To state the obvious: why source these guys when you have Alan Oldham - in town? An originator of this sound and from Detroit? The Last DJ On Earth *still rocks* my stereo. to state the even more painfully obvious, why don't you throw your own damn electronic music fesitval? then you can book dee jay tee one thousand all you want! alternately, you could stay home. originate this, chris
Re: [313] tech-no at DEMF?
Can I ask why you are singling me out for a fairly innocuous statement and humiliating me publicly? is it really that humiliating to be flamed on an internet mailing list? It's happened to me hundreds of times in the short while that i've been active on this list! It's the norm, really. Just because your opinions align closely with the majority of the active posters on here doesn't mean it won't happen to you.
ten records
not necessarily my top ten, I'm just going to flip through my crates and see what comes up. cylob - living in the 1980s - rephlex laid back - white horse - sire dub taylor - i can't (fall in love with another one) - force tracks giovani and mosler - vol 2 - ?? (anyone know who this is?) dr. rockit - cafe flore 12 - lifelike (second side skips! grr!) slam - past sessions/future theories comp - soma riley and clay - red light express - bush plus 8 classics 2x12 matthias schaffhauser - lido hotel - force tracks daft punk - one more time - virgin (?) i don't own this, but sadly enough i'm tempted to go buy it... damn thing keeps coming up on my playlist at work and gets stuck in my head! plus any other good electro/house/techhouse/not-so-drummy techno you might like. the cd and/or mp3 collection is a whole other story, though. chris
latest addition to demf lineup announced
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20010419/us/kitchen_band_ilcar101.html
Re: [313] NI traktor
has anyone used NI new digital djing pgm traktor? i have messed around with the demo, but it's pretty limited. I've used it some, it seems to be the most capable all-software mp3 mixer out there. of course it comes nowhere near mixing with vinyl (or finalscratch, i'm assuming) - but you can easliy throw together a nice set with it. I do like the filters built into the software too. I'd say it's a pretty fun piece of software, but not really good for live performances or anything. chris
RE: [313] T-Shirt Voting
I've voted already. BUT what happened to the submissions from last year??? There was a nice morse code that wasn't so obvious as well as some other ones. I was surprised to only see four (five?) selections on this page. i was surprised too... last year there were so many entries. And it's not like there wasn't enough time to design them this time. Maybe people were discouraged by the fact that they didn't get printed last year? *shrug* there were some good ones last year, oh well. chris
Re: [313] vinyl: not for me; but mp3 cds are.
I think alot of the quality of the audio goes out the window after digital quantizantion. Something I don't understand here - so much music is made with samplers and other digital devices, so presumably the sound coming out is quantised to 16-bit/44.1KHz by definition anyway - how can writing that quantised sound onto vinyl suddenly give it a better dynamic range / quality ? exactly - even the tracks made with all analgue synths and drum machines are generally mastered to DAT, which is if i remember right 16 bit 44khz, same as CD. then again, maybe those people who make vinyl masters know some sort of magic that un-quantizes your digital recording? yeah, that must be it. cause, y'know, vinyl is better. i hate technology, that's why i play techno!
Re: [313] vinyl - digital
i've heard that rubbing toothpaste on the data side of of a scratched cd will take out many of the skips. unlike the other ones, this actually works - it works as a polishing agent. you can buff out a lot of the scratches, just not the really deep ones. remember to wash the toothpaste off before you play it!
help me out here!
hey, i'm a litle unclear on the rules.. is a chinaman allowed to steal music from an arab?
Re: [313] tristan opens the can of kerosene [LONG)
Is this the first thread ever that won't die once someone mentions Nazism? And would someone please boot this Chrise fella? (S)he is contributing nothing but kerosene. i thought i'd substitute chinamen and arabs in place of nazis. I assumed the absurdity of the statement would be glaringly obvious, but I forgot which list I was posting to.. i think the someone you're referring to would be the list administrators. feel free to write them at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] alternately, you can try telling me if you have a problem with something i say. that's how problems are usually resolved. then again, i can understand why you'd be intimidated by my kerosene to the point where you'd be so AFRAID to approach me directly that you just couldn't do it. (s)he, chris
opening the other frequently recurring 313 can of worms
www.finalscratch.com the program that's destined to take all the art out of our art has finally launched its website, and we can expect the world to end shortly. (THAT LAST STATEMENT WAS TONGUE-IN-CHEEK. IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TONGUE-IN-CHEEK MEANS, GO LOOK IT UP.)
laura gavoor drives a ford focus
Here's one for the records: Ford Focus is sponsoring a Techno tour (cutesy-cute) starring our boy Moby and not ONE Detroit artist who were asked to participate WITHOUT PAY simply to substantiate their grooovy new tag line. Coming to a theatre near you. you might have noticed talk of another little cutesy-cute thing that ford focus is sponsoring? I'm not going to name names here, but I think if you think about it hard enough, you'll remember it. then again, as detroit is the motherland of techno, ford should be obliged to acknowledge it and only it when hoping to sell units to twentysomethings, right?
Re: [313] The Truth Hurts Sometimes
Truth I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it for myself... the truth is always most credible when it comes from someone using an assumed name. if you're so sure of your truths, why don't you post them under your real name?
Re: [313] Moby is a Soul Sampler
An d as for Mute records, what black artists do they have?? Nuttin but the truth, nuttin but a dead horse, CE
Re: [313] DEMF update
What happen with Moodymann? Last year his Demf-Set was revolutionary,perhaps the art of deconstruction of Moody is too much for DEMF Organization. or maybe he played last year, and they wanted to vary the lineup so they booked other people? nah, must be the revolutionary deconstruction other big word thing.
Re: [313] DEMF Press Conference
Do they sell those posters at the event? I'll need about 1000 to wallpaper my apartment. last year they were $25 a piece. they were really nice posters, and i really wanted one, but not for that price! that'd be a pretty pricey wallpaper job. chris
Re: [313] DEMF mills?
The way I see it is... most promoters in the US dont want to pay that much for Mills.. in Europe... its no problem. Why on earth would he want to come to the US to make less then he can in Europe, but then again.. its not about the money.. its about the music.. right? i think it's also about not having to deal with the incompetent high-school aged promoters and generally unappreciative crowds at large scale events (read: raves) in the states. Having said that, I think there's plenty of promoters and venues in the states that he wouldn't have those kinds of problems with. So I'm not disagreeing with th statement that he's a greedy bastard, but the impression I've got is that it's generally a better experience all around when you play in europe. *shrug* there's a lot of people I'd rather see than mills... and most of them are on that lineup :) chris
hey!
anyone heard of this guy moby i think he's called? rumor has it he taught the bellevue three all there is to know about music, and now he's some sort of lounge singer? anyway, i haven't heard much talk about him, and i thought i'd see what people had to say. ps - i heard he's playing at a big rave in ann arbor at the end of may?! DUMF or something? phat!
Re: [313] Juan - MasterMix
I have that CD and the coupla mistakes just show me that even the best have off moments. The CD itself is nice. but is it really appropriate to sell your off moments? btw, whatever claims planetxusa.com may make, the vinyl copy is mixed, too.
Re: [313] !313 [313] Booth for DEMF
damnit, no free shampoo and conditioner gift packs.. yeah, but the free heavy machinery gift pack should be sweet. pantene isn't sponsoring it this year, okay? mitsubishi heavy machines and 5 european telecommunications co's are. so why don't we all get out of the clouds.
Re: [313] !313 [313] Booth for DEMF
i was looking into getting a mitsubishi. maybe they'll give out free cars??? yeah that's it. $30,000.00 for a booth and you get a free mitsubishi spyder with every purchase. :-) nah, it's the heavy machinery division. your $30,000 comes with a bulldozer. at least it'll be useful for getting out of hart plaza at midnight when everyone's going home.
Re: [313] garnier set suggestions
I was just rocking to the Fuse one, that has some *solid* mixing and great transitions and blending!! wow, laurent garnier played in your basement too? beating a dead horse, chris
Re: [313] OT nero burning schlong
drag your mp3 or wav or whatever from wherever it is to the new disc window, double click on it, choose the tab that says indexes, splits, and something else. this will bring up a little diagram of the full track. click wherever you want a split, hit the split button. if you want exact control (you probably do), once you hit split you can hit edit and type in an exact minute and second where you want the split to happen. repeat this process till you've got all the splits you want put in there. when you hit ok, it'll ask you if you want to split the file into separate audio tracks. choose yes - it won't split the actual file. Make sure you select all the tracks and set the gap between tracks to 0 seconds, unless you like big gaps in the middle of your mix :P of course, make sure that you either already own the mix you're splitting, or that it's something that's unavailable for purchase :P chris Hi all the other day someone explained how to split a long mix and burn it to separate tracks in nero can you hit me up off list please? ab [flip the scrip and down pitch the speed] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Booth for DEMF
they also did not expect 1.5M people last year. they also didn't *get* 1.5 million people. 1 million is a very generous estimate. But that's not really the point. Think about it, do you actually think m_nus or any of the local clothing stores actually did enough business that they could pay $30,000 for a booth and still make a good profit? and you you really think pop culture media is the type of event promoter that'd jack their prices up to 10 times what they were last year? yeah, maybe it's possible. But I think it's a lot more likely that $30,000 was a typo.
Re: [313] doppleroids
just listening to elecktroids elektro world on warp and it sounds just like heinrich rudolf .. The vocoder especially on japanese electronics .. is dopplereffect behind this? YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT DOPPLEREFFEKT OR DREXCIYA. IF THEY WANTED YOU TO ASK QUESTIONS, THEY WOULD'VE GIVEN THE ANSWERS BEFOREHAND. SO MUCH DISRESPECT! DON'T YOU KNOW THEY'RE ARTISTS?
Re: [313] taking off pants
The DJs primary purpose is to expose music. That is the original history of DJing. It is how this all started. A lot of things have changed since the early days of radio, but I fail to see how the DJs primary obligation to expose artists has ever mutated. I'm sorry, I must disagree with you on this fine point. The primary purpose of the DJ is to entertain an audience. If a DJ's primary purpose was to expose artists then a DJ could play a set of terrible artists and do it really poorly and yet they would still be doing their job well because they are exposing artists. well, by the same logic, a dj could put on a funny suit, make balloon animals, and play crappy records, and still be doing his job well, because they're entertaining their audience. 2 sides to every coin. chris, waiting to see more djs in funny suits.
Re: [313] mp3 to cd with winamp
if the mix is only 78 minutes, just buy an 80 minute cd and burn it all on to there. no need to cut off the last 4 minutes. or, if you're using nero (which i highly reccomend you do), you can choose to overburn the cd - i think generally you can get about 85 minutes on an 80 minute cd... a certain crazy dutchman claims to have got 90, but that's debateable. anyway, there's a free 30 day trial of nero at www.ahead.de, and it's without a doubt the finest cd quthoring program i've used... at least for this sort of thing. chris On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, meta elpH wrote: If there is a 78 min mix and I only have a 74 min CD, then I use Winamp to chop off the last bit. What you do is click on the little V that is next to your visualization display (either the moving bars or the moving line). Then configure the output and select Nullsoft Disk Writer. This takes anything Winamp plays and creates a wav file, it is sent to any directory you want. Once this is set up, go to play the desired 78 minute MP3. You won't hear anything because Winamp is crunching out a wav file AND THE TRICK IS: *STOP* the song just before it hits the 74 minute mark. Now you are ready to burn that CD, no other software needed! A problem that I encounter is that Winamp crunches the wav out FAST, and when I stop the file, I may not have stopped it in time. No big deal, just try again. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
oh, mysterious drexciya
d. thong, Ani is very right. The reason that people create so much mystery behind their names is because they consciously decide to remain anonymous. hasn't this been covered excessively on this list already? obviously the artists and anyone else who actually knows drexciya's true mysterious identity aren't planning to reveal this information any time soon. So stop wasting your time getting all pissed off about it. besides, you all know you want to know just as bad as the people who ask.
derrick may's new toneshift music video
RESPECT THE ANONYMITY OF THE ARTIST! http://www.512productions.com/lobstermagnet/index.html
Re: [313] I need to vent for a moment...
Where are you sending your waves as they record?? You *need* to send them in an no OS HD, and it *should* be 7200 rpm's. But the real key is that there can NOT be any programs or op system on the disk you are recording to, not even a partitioned drive. If you do, you run a huge risk of failure, unless you have a P4 or over clocked water cooled AMD 1.5 GHz and a gig of ram and a 10,000 rpm drive... settle down, mister toneshift. where exactly are you getting this information? I record to my c drive all the time, with a whole bunch of other processes running. I did so on my old p133 with 64 megs of ram and a 5400rpm hard drive too, and never had a problem. as long as your drive defragmented and ample swap space before you start recording, you'll be fine. you don't have to pretend to be an expert on every topic, you know. playa-hating since 96, chris
mixed up in the hague vol 2?
hey, the clone website says mixed up vol 2 is out now... anyone seen it in stores? I'd prefer to not have to order it from overseas. chris
Re: [313] fuse
all fuse sets are actually mixed by darw_n in his basement. On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, Samuel Hobbs wrote: today i found a fuse dj set on napster. it includes minus-orange, an e-dancer track and some other recognizable techno. is richie hawtin starting to or has he ever performed live as fuse? does anyone have any additionalinfo. -sam __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Tha Mills thang
didn't you hear? they fired mills.. instead it's gonna be a 6 hour wizard set by the hpDJ. enjoy! I'm probably going to come in for the Wizard show, but before I click on Buy in Expedia ... First things first, are there any tickets left? I can either arrive late Thursday afternoon and stay until Sunday evening, or else arrive early Thursday morning on a late Wednesday night red-eye and ship back out Friday evening. I'd save $109 if I stayed until Sunday, but that would obviously be negated if I had to stay at a hotel for 2 extra nights. If any of my peeps in Detroit that know me want me to stick around for the weekend, plz 2 speak up in the next 6 or 7 hours :-) - Greg (Technotourist, West Coast Division)
Re: [313] ...this
Is this the live @ FUSE mix? ooh ooh ... gotta hear it! calling my basement fuse is a passion of mine. i cry when people belittle my life's work.
Re: [313] DEMF in Europe?
i heard a rumor that DEMF 2001 was going to be held in Parvez Wilson's pants, and we're all invited! On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Parvez Wilson wrote: I heard from a pretty reliable source that...this thread is whack. give it a rest. please. The damn festival is going to be in the same place it was last year and will be next year. So, please, take no more information from your reliable sources. If you know information about the festival, hey good for you. If you dont, shut up and dont run your mouth with stupid ass off the wall speculation. Wake up, get on a plane, get a hotel room, enjoy the festival, and get out.
Re: [313] off topic: domain names
go to www.nsi.com and choose the whois function. chris On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Sean Deason wrote: anyone know how you can check on who owns a specific domain name? I just tried seandeason.com, kennylarkin.com, derrickmay.com, staceypullen.com, and a few other local techno artists, and all of the names are preregistered to someone else. I find it way to much of a coincedence that all of our names have suddenly been bought up (but not by us) :^( seandeason.dot? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
derrick may question
I'd like for someone to ask him what he thinks of the pedestal he's been placed upon. chris that and what color underwear he's wearing, hot damn!
another important derrick may question
if i was interviewing the innovator, I'd ask him if he knew if there was going to be a DEMF 2001, and which hotel he suggested I stay in. chris
Re: [313] re: Derrick May questions?
It was sad, because Derrick's set was so much better, and so completely over their head. DAMN THOSE WHITE PEOPLE, THEY JUST DONT GET IT! keeping racial distinctions alive well into the 21st century, chris
Re: [313] JEFF MILLS-MARCH 1
Umm, while you may very well deserve your opinion, sometimes it's best kept to yourself. what, like when important people disagree? Have some respect and even if you have none then shut the f*ck up! todd criticism doesn't imply disrespect. when are people going to get that through their thick skulls?
Re: [313] the LONG short of dj sets
That's a bit of a generalised statement, there are a lot of bedroom dj's who can perform a variety of tricks and skills that would work just aswell as older established names. If they are that good, they need to come out of their bedrooms more often. maybe they don't want to?
Re: [313] the longg dj set
First off, I play everything from deep house to trance, with influence from techno. So, I don't really expect to many people on here to like my sets, nor do I demand that. do you play them LIVE AT FUSE and then share them on napster as such? yeah, I thought so. Dj Darwin LIVE @ FUSE - life feat. [keven(sic) saunderson, derrick may, afex(sic) twin, adam beyer, marco carola, isolee, Timo Maas, Richie Hawtin, rob hood, halo].mp3 deceptive titling is the mark of a true artist. TONESHIFT 4 EVA!
Re: [313] Ring ring ring ha ha hey!
what about sweet exorcist - test tone What about The Bells??? well, alarms from purpose maker series would be better imho, or perhaps the piano melody from changes of life or what was that tune called.. :) how about speedy j - pullover? ahh, if only i had a phone... chris
spammers grabbing addresses from 313?
i just got this email... the fact that they are just a couple of guys doesn't make this kind of thing any more appropriate. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:54:26 - From: Novarum HQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Novarum HQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Greetings From Planet Novarum..!! Hi, We got your e-mail address from the 313 digest list. As you?re obviously into your music, we thought you might be interested in a site dedicated to quality controlled substances... We are very aware that mailing you direct is not the best way to draw your attention to our outfit, but in the spirit of supporting the underground, we hope you will not be offended. Please understand that we are just some guys trying to do something that we believe in, and seeing as we all have the same shared passion...it would be great if you would pass this on to any other like minded folk all the best Novarum. Novarum... http://www.novarum.co.uk/ ...Supplying Quality Controlled Substances... HQ: +44 1727 765269
Re: [313] attn: digital duds
PLEASE people, can we give this a rest. This was one of the more unproductive threads on here recently. oh, i'm sorry... i'll go back to something a little more appropriate. CAN SOMEONE ID KNIGHTS OF THE JAGUAR PLEASE? I HEARD IT AT XX:XX:XX IN SET X BY DETROIT DJ. chris
hawtin acquaviva sets on napster?
so i was looking around on napster and found a set of mp3s called richie hawtin john acquaviva - 10 years of plus8 records - now I assumed they were just the plus8 classics cds but they're really big (40-70 mins each) and when I downloaded part of one it appeared to be a dj mix, and not of classic plus 8 stuff. Anyone know what these really are? There's a whole lot of them too, several hours' worth of music altogether probably. chris
Re: [313] attn: digital duds
ill go up next to anyone with these cd inventions and well play out the real issue-who got the crowd groovin, whos having a good time. you just have to buy the plane ticket: you'll go up against hawtin and acquaviva and their cd inventions? sounds good, I'm sure it'll be the end-all, be-all litmus test of which is the superior medium. chris
Re: [313] Future of DJ'ing, also anyone at MIDEM?
Yeah, I am on the artform side. I think it will be the demise of DJing the day that it becomes a machine-led thing. how is it any less of an artform when technology is involved? I think the real issue here is unwarranted nostalgia holding us back from a better experience. How can you confidently state that there's no art to mixing mp3s using finalscratch when you haven't even tried it, and most likely haven't even seen anyone else try it? What, just because it doesn't rely on a crappy, outdated, extremely inconvenient technology, it's not as good? It's not about finding song x on npaster vs finding song x on a record and which is more rewarding - of course it's more rewarding to find song x on vinyl. but try to think of the possibilities that digital mixing opens up - you could easily play your own songs, the ones you don't want to spend $50 getting an acetate cut, or even more to have it actually released. You could work in live elements, you could do effects, the creative control is only limited to what your computer can do. And remember, this system works WITH your turntables - you can still bring your records along and play them the same as you did before. You're not being asked to abandon vinyl here... just to accept the possibility that vinyl is not the end-all, be-all of mixed music. Please don't waste my time arguing practicalities like mp3s don't sound as good or computers crash! - and don't waste my time telling me vinyl is superior becuase it's what we've always used. So what? It's romantic notions like that that'll hold the music back and let it stagnate. Of course there's room to acknowledge the past, but there's also plenty of room to move forward... the problem with accepting new technology might be striking a balance between the two... but denying new technology because it's not what we've always used is not the solution.
Re: [313] Digital Jockey vs. Disc Jockey (was: Future of DJ'ing, also anyone at MIDEM?)
I totally agree, but what I'm saying is that you can have presence with equipment other than turntables. How? It would have to be something that demands some kind of physicality. (Great debate by the way.) well, the whole point of finalscratch is it still uses the turntables... really the only stage presence you're losing if you use that system is the turn around and dig in your record box part now unless you really dig checking out a dj's butt (which is totally understandable) I don't think it's all that big of a deal. I wish the finalscratch page was still up - if they've really launched the product like they apparently have, you'd think it would be up. It's pretty hard to explain quickly, but you get these special records that you put on any turntable... these records then send a signal to the computer which uses the signal to control the pitch, position, etc, of the mp3 or cd audio or whatever. You're still using vinyl, that's the cool thing. you're not just pushing buttons or whatever, you're playing records, but you're playing mp3s. here's an article: http://www.wirednews.com/news/culture/0,1284,18840,00.html
Re: [313] THE WIZARD-Jeff Mills-MARCH 1
This is an event that could ONLY happen here. This is a one time opportunity to see a side of a Detroit legend only spoken about in nostalgic terms I'm sure he won't cancel this time!
Re: [313] Anthems, was plastic dreams...
We are Phuture - Phuture (that DAMN rocketship track my friend M always said) who's the singer for that? sounds like the erasure guy... my copy says vocals by darrel lewis it's also a HORRID pressing, anyone know if they're all like this? I want a better copy! chris
ishkur's guide to electronic music
http://www.ishkur.com/menu/lifestyle/guide.htm it takes a loong time to load all the samples, the connections he draws between various styles of music are at times pretty ridiculous, and there's an obvious bias against some sorts of music, but all in all this is a pretty cool little flash thingy. chris
Re: [313] UR and KDJ - What?
brotha, if you ain't down with drivin' a jaguar, then maybe playstation will emulate the experience for you. so what you're trying to say is that it's a money thing? that wealthy people will own the UR version, while the less fortunate will be forced to purchase the sony one?
Re: [313] well
And 'progressive rock' was so immensely silly and annoying that forevermore the term will be deprecated. hey now! we all know prog rock was the true root of detroit techno! not to mention, it RULES!
Re: [313] Re: [[313] well]
My point being, its a descriptive word. okay then, define progressive and explain how that definition relates to the music you call progressive techno. chris
Re: [313] RE: R WE BEING EDITED???
No. In order to censor you, the list admin would have to write a perl filter to intercept your mail to 313, and then fake the headers when he sent 'approved' email along to the list. I don't think anyone involved could be arsed to go to that trouble. I don't know why your posts didn't show up but I do NOT think anyone's censoring you. I think most likely it's due to the fact that (last i heard) hyperreal was a pretty outdated machine, and it's handling basically every high-volume list that's devoted to some aspect of electronic music or raves. I know it's had little glitches like this before - I wouldn't be surprised to see your posts magically appear 4 days from now. Hyperreal's just weird like that sometimes. At any rate, I don't even know who the admin of this list is. And that's how it should be - whoever s/he is, they're taking a very hands-off approach to their position. I highly doubt that there's any censorship going on here. all this talk of hyperreal's making me nostalgic for vrave... *sigh* chris
test, please delete
if you're reading this, you like trance.
