(313) OT pictures of italo night clubs back in the day
Hi peepz I remember a few years back there was a website that had heaps of pictures of italo nightclubs from back in the day..there where photos of one that looked like a space ship etc. any idea of what the website was? really want to track it down again and having no luck so far. regards Sam
(313) OT : arbee bleupulp new LP (free download)
(((not 313, but its a free release and the last track sound kind of dub tech so i thought some of you could eb interested...))) details : cat. number : pertin-nce_044 artists : arbee bleupulp title : distances inconnues sounds like : electronic, experimental, ambient, down beats, deep stream free download on: pertin-nce.ca or for .wav .flac other formats http://archive.org/details/pertin-nce_044 artwork image by: TiND :: thisisnotdesign.com net label : pertin-nce.ca me : soundcloud.com/bleupulp
(313) OT: it ain't 313 but maybe some of you know one of these tracks needing IDed
i apologize for the wildly off topic post but i am getting down near the end of a 18 year track ID project and I have only 20 or so left... so i am tapping this list in... can anybody ID any of these decidedly non-313 tracks? http://files.deejaycountzer0.com/feverproject/feverexcerpts/
(313) OT: Korg Electribe ES-1 For Sale
here, make some tunes :) Korg Electribe ES-1 w/16 MB smartmedia card, USB card reader, power adapter, orig. manual incl. perfect working order $230 steal -- peace, frank http://www.deejaycountzero.com http://www.infinitestatemachine.com
(313) OT: We are the robots (oh no, we aren't!)
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(313) OT where to buy good records (italo and such) Italy?
Hi can anybody advise me where the best record shopping is in italy? Flea markets and such. regardss Sam
(313) (ot) this other track i made... soundcloud update
Hello! I just wanted to share this track i made.. You can DL listen to it on soundcloud. Its kind of deep and moody but not dark, with a repetitive drum loop. Reverbs, delays, filters n stuff.. www.soundcloud.com/bleupulp/ad-ee-part-1 hope u enjoy peace max www.pertin-nce.blogspot.com www.facebook.com/bleupulp
(313) OT: this trippy track i made (soundcloud)
Hello I just wanted to share this track I made. Kinda slow, trippy, deep.. The main synth melody was made by 'galerie stratique' (http://www.galerie-stratique.com/) Listen and download at : http://soundcloud.com/bleupulp/sem-dub-feat-galerie-stratique peace out max
(313) (ot) [vau009] iriXx - in shadows and in light (free ep)
Ola! A new release : label : pertin_nce / various and uneasy cat. number : vau009 artists : iriXx title : in shadows and in light track listing : 1- in shadows and in light (full set) 2- the falling sky 3- whether or not you love me 4- make believe 5- hell would have to freeze sounds like : electronic, beats break, dubstep, experimental download stream (v/a formats) : http://www.archive.org/details/vau009 http://www.variousanduneasy.blogspot.com peace out max
(313) OT [cccltd02] maxime tanguay - country music
hello! i got a new ep out on cccltd.ca, a quebec based label, called ''country music'' ... kinda sounds like ambient experimental electronic... available on itunes beatport.. stream here : http://cccltdca.wordpress.com/release/cccltd02/ itunes : http://itunes.apple.com/ca/album/country-music/id409423788 beatport : https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/316430/Country%20 Music label link : http://www.cccltd.ca/ peace out!!! max
(313) OT: pertin-nce show vol.016 (dj mix by bleupulp)
Yo! Here is the latest pertin-nce show. not really mixed, more like layered in ableton live. Ambient, experimental electronic, down beats, digital dub, weird stuff, idm. two unreleased pertin-nce tracks... Lots of these tracks can be found for free DL on the internets. Hope you enjoy. 01- choi joonyong - hold 04 02- hertzcanary - bathingofthebird 03- ocp - a few words short 04- esteban - anavitarte-otom-a 05- maxime tanguay - field recording 06- ocp - it takes two 07- muied lumens - quadrasnoota 08- kit clayton - surba 09- phobos - last minute call 10- derek piort - scrape 11- hemiptera - reduction 12- soundhacker - detected 13- derek piort - vend 14- mats twunky - sludge maker 15- leos - those i loved 16- knuckleduster - rhetor 17- bleupulp - second-render-first 18- sade - morning birds (andrew duke remix) 19- knuckleduster - drt12 20- dimitri pike - intro things 21- resynthesize-handprints - harp dub 22- fm3 - bm204 23- dooQ - ekaarian 24- ici.eme - le parc 25- andrew duke - oppappus (bleupulp remix) link to mp3 : http://www.pertin-nce.com/releases/pertin-nce_show_16.mp3 on mixcloud: http://www.mixcloud.com/pertin/pertin-nce-show-vol016/ on percussionlab http://www.percussionlab.com/sets/bleupulp/pertin-nce_show_vol_016 peace www.pertin-nce.com
(313) OT: Peter 'Sleazy' Christopherson (Coil)
Apparently, Sleazy died yesterday.
Again in the neither-neither. :)
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Re: (313) OT: Peter 'Sleazy' Christopherson (Coil)
What a horrible loss. He was one of my greatest musickal influences.
Jim
On Nov 25, 2010, at 11:24 AM, darnistle darnis...@cafe-ebola.com wrote:
Apparently, Sleazy died yesterday.
Again in the neither-neither. :)
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(313) ot: paging southern outpost
patrick you out there?
(313) OT: New York
Hi All, I know this is off topic but can someone recommend somewhere to stay in Brooklyn (or other)? I'll be there for a couple of nights in October, other tips also handy :) cheers, robin...
(313) OT: DEMF Friday airport pickup/cab share?
So my flight to Detroit gets in on friday at 11:30-noonish. Unfortunately the rest of my crew won't be in town until 2 or 3. I am trying to find somebody with a similar or slightly later flight who wants to share a cab to downtown Detroit. Alternately, looking for somebody w a car to pick me up at the airport. Staying at the shorecrest but getting me close or even to Detroit threads or melodies and memories would work too. Sent from my iPhone
Re: (313) OT: DEMF Friday airport pickup/cab share?
thanks to everybody who replied, ride has been secured. see you all the festival! On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: So my flight to Detroit gets in on friday at 11:30-noonish. Unfortunately the rest of my crew won't be in town until 2 or 3. I am trying to find somebody with a similar or slightly later flight who wants to share a cab to downtown Detroit. Alternately, looking for somebody w a car to pick me up at the airport. Staying at the shorecrest but getting me close or even to Detroit threads or melodies and memories would work too. Sent from my iPhone -- peace, frank http://www.deejaycountzero.com http://www.infinitestatemachine.com
(313) ot [vau004] snork - archive (free)
label : pertin_nce cat. number : vau004 artists : snork title : archive track listing : 1- la faille 2- the haunting 3- last call sounds like : idm, electronic, experimental, download stream (v/a formats) : http://www.archive.org/details/vau004 http://www.variousanduneasy.blogspot.com note : written composed by dominic martin in 2006 enjoy! (or not) www.pertin-nce.com www.soundcloud.com/snork_ www.noerg.com
(313) OT: [pertin-nce_030] earth incubator - flight to the sun (free)
(not 313, but its free music so i thought i could share... so here is an other pertin_ release, this one is kinda trippy... hope you enjoy!!) cat : pertin-nce_030 artist : earth incubator title : flight to the sun track listing : 1- flight to the sun 2- flight to the sun (ici.eme version) sounds like : experimental, ambient, drone download 256kps .zip at : http://www.pertin-nce.com/releases/pertin-nce_030.zip for .wav, .vbr, .stream, .flac, single track DL / check here: http://www.archive.org/details/pertin-nce_030 links : info: alexanderkibanov.tk myspace.com/aakibanov earth_incuba...@yahoo.com www.pertin-nce.com www.myspace.com/pertinnce www.beatport.com/labels/pertin_nce www.pertin.etsy.com
(313) OT: any Cincy or Tacoma 313'ers?
Might be venturing that way in the fall for 8 weeks and curious if there are any of you out there? minto down low music http://downlowmusic.org
(313) OT: Producers/DJ's: Google Docs allowing up to 250 MB emails now
For you gmail users, google docs is rolling out the ability to send files up to 250 mb which is, frankly, awesome. I know there's a lot of other services (u-sendit), that do similar, but for people trying to move long dj sets around, etc, this will be a great feature. http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/upload-your-files-and-access-them.html -Art
(313) OT : [vau002] brian tester - spectral capital (free mp3 ep)
(various and uneasy vol.002) label : pertin_nce cat. number : vau002 artists : brian tester title : spectral capital track listing : 1- kinky sines 2- mosswood 3- channeling stuff 4- the bit of blue 5- there's gold in empty dimensions sounds like : electronic, experimental, glitch, sines, ambient download stream (v/a formats) : http://www.archive.org/details/vau002 http://www.variousanduneasy.blogspot.com extra link: www.myspace.com/briantester enjoy! (or not) www.pertin-nce.com
(313) OT: new DJ mix non-zero dipole moments (deep house)
Sorry if this is old news but I did a new mix last week and thought I'd share. Marginally 313 related as there are only a few Detroit artists on there. hit my blog for full tracklist and download link: http://www.deejaycountzero.com/blog/?p=170 artists include: Tevo Howard Black Jazz Consortium Chelonis R Jones Stimming Omar S Basic Soul Unit 2 AM/FM (Tadd Mullinix D'Marc Cantu) Chicago Skyway Inner City Glenn Underground Lerosa Theo Parrish -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of journalism about the D
I don't think there would be anything wrong at all if people moved to Detroit to do art, or urban farming or whatever. Places where people can live cheaply and have room to work are essential for the creation of new art. I don't think 'ruin porn' is very useful if that's all it is. But if you spend any time in Detroit, the ruination is pretty inescapable. To me it feels less like ruins and more like fallow land, as though all it's waiting for is the right spark. Beyond both these ideas -- Detroit as lurid icon of urban decay, and as unrealized potential -- there's something that the rest of the world tends to ignore, which is that Detroit has real people living there across the whole spectrum of human experience -- the desparate, the scary, the hopeful, the evil and the good. And somehow every 'good' thing that comes to Detroit doesn't really reach down to help the poorest of the poor. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.viceland.com/int/v16n8/htdocs/something-something-something-detroit-994.php?page=1 Very funny article about Detroit ruin porn and all the cleverly cropped photos to make everything look depressing when outside journalists come to the city. I loved the line about a bunch of “Billyburg hipsters” moving to the city to start urban farms. Mostly because this is an actual dream of my girlfriend, and I can now use this to tease her that no one wants her to move in to their hood and start an urban farm. haha. -Art
RE: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of journalism about the D
Berlin was in ruins and became a haven for artists. This kind of regeneration has happened in parts of London too. It would be great if it could happen in Detroit. Is there much of a squat scene in the US? In London and some parts of Britain, local councils have begun to encourage arts collectives to occupy empty shops to encourage people to visit 'declining' neigbourhoods. This is in Herne Hill, which is near to Brixton in London: http://www.liveattheapollo.org/ But it's happening all over: http://artistsandmakers.com/staticpages/index.php/emptyshops Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: 26 November 2009 15:47 To: Arturo Lopez Cc: Three-One-Three Subject: Re: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of journalism about the D I don't think there would be anything wrong at all if people moved to Detroit to do art, or urban farming or whatever. Places where people can live cheaply and have room to work are essential for the creation of new art. I don't think 'ruin porn' is very useful if that's all it is. But if you spend any time in Detroit, the ruination is pretty inescapable. To me it feels less like ruins and more like fallow land, as though all it's waiting for is the right spark. Beyond both these ideas -- Detroit as lurid icon of urban decay, and as unrealized potential -- there's something that the rest of the world tends to ignore, which is that Detroit has real people living there across the whole spectrum of human experience -- the desparate, the scary, the hopeful, the evil and the good. And somehow every 'good' thing that comes to Detroit doesn't really reach down to help the poorest of the poor. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.viceland.com/int/v16n8/htdocs/something-something-something-detroit-994.php?page=1 Very funny article about Detroit ruin porn and all the cleverly cropped photos to make everything look depressing when outside journalists come to the city. I loved the line about a bunch of Billyburg hipsters moving to the city to start urban farms. Mostly because this is an actual dream of my girlfriend, and I can now use this to tease her that no one wants her to move in to their hood and start an urban farm. haha. -Art # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
RE: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of journalism about the D
It seems like time for some of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7aSypQmLRA Albeit sounds more and more ironic every year, to me anyway .. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 4:13 PM To: kent williams; Arturo Lopez Cc: Three-One-Three Subject: RE: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of journalism about the D Berlin was in ruins and became a haven for artists. This kind of regeneration has happened in parts of London too. It would be great if it could happen in Detroit. Is there much of a squat scene in the US? In London and some parts of Britain, local councils have begun to encourage arts collectives to occupy empty shops to encourage people to visit 'declining' neigbourhoods. This is in Herne Hill, which is near to Brixton in London: http://www.liveattheapollo.org/ But it's happening all over: http://artistsandmakers.com/staticpages/index.php/emptyshops Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: 26 November 2009 15:47 To: Arturo Lopez Cc: Three-One-Three Subject: Re: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of journalism about the D I don't think there would be anything wrong at all if people moved to Detroit to do art, or urban farming or whatever. Places where people can live cheaply and have room to work are essential for the creation of new art. I don't think 'ruin porn' is very useful if that's all it is. But if you spend any time in Detroit, the ruination is pretty inescapable. To me it feels less like ruins and more like fallow land, as though all it's waiting for is the right spark. Beyond both these ideas -- Detroit as lurid icon of urban decay, and as unrealized potential -- there's something that the rest of the world tends to ignore, which is that Detroit has real people living there across the whole spectrum of human experience -- the desparate, the scary, the hopeful, the evil and the good. And somehow every 'good' thing that comes to Detroit doesn't really reach down to help the poorest of the poor. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.viceland.com/int/v16n8/htdocs/something-something-something-detroit-994.php?page=1 Very funny article about Detroit ruin porn and all the cleverly cropped photos to make everything look depressing when outside journalists come to the city. I loved the line about a bunch of Billyburg hipsters moving to the city to start urban farms. Mostly because this is an actual dream of my girlfriend, and I can now use this to tease her that no one wants her to move in to their hood and start an urban farm. haha. -Art # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
Re: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of journalism about the D
Yea don't get me wrong, I'm all about people coming into communities and trying to make a difference, provided they are actually trying to contribute. As far as the squat scene, I have no idea. I've see it a bit here and there in Chicago (artist kids illegally living in storefronts). I do know that regular people end up doing most of the leg work in the U.S. for this kind of thing before officials catch on or are convinced to help. Occasionally developers will give rental discounts to people in the arts when they are trying to build up 'artist neighborhoods' to drive up business, and eventually housing prices. It's a mixture of things happening organically, and then business/political interests becoming involved in order to profit. Neighborhood 'cycles' are a fascinating subject, though, and unfortunately what is considered blighted or bad more often than not is just replaced with white and expensive. Gentrification is happening pretty fast in many U.S. cities, with things headed more towards a Paris-style model of the wealthy living inside the city and the poor pushed to the outlaying city suburbs. It's happening -extremely- fast in D.C., and many Chicago neighborhoods are becoming barely recognizable from 5-10 years ago. Very OT but it's an exciting subject. -Art On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote: It seems like time for some of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7aSypQmLRA Albeit sounds more and more ironic every year, to me anyway .. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 4:13 PM To: kent williams; Arturo Lopez Cc: Three-One-Three Subject: RE: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of journalism about the D Berlin was in ruins and became a haven for artists. This kind of regeneration has happened in parts of London too. It would be great if it could happen in Detroit. Is there much of a squat scene in the US? In London and some parts of Britain, local councils have begun to encourage arts collectives to occupy empty shops to encourage people to visit 'declining' neigbourhoods. This is in Herne Hill, which is near to Brixton in London: http://www.liveattheapollo.org/ But it's happening all over: http://artistsandmakers.com/staticpages/index.php/emptyshops Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: 26 November 2009 15:47 To: Arturo Lopez Cc: Three-One-Three Subject: Re: (313) OT: Nice article about the current state of journalism about the D I don't think there would be anything wrong at all if people moved to Detroit to do art, or urban farming or whatever. Places where people can live cheaply and have room to work are essential for the creation of new art. I don't think 'ruin porn' is very useful if that's all it is. But if you spend any time in Detroit, the ruination is pretty inescapable. To me it feels less like ruins and more like fallow land, as though all it's waiting for is the right spark. Beyond both these ideas -- Detroit as lurid icon of urban decay, and as unrealized potential -- there's something that the rest of the world tends to ignore, which is that Detroit has real people living there across the whole spectrum of human experience -- the desparate, the scary, the hopeful, the evil and the good. And somehow every 'good' thing that comes to Detroit doesn't really reach down to help the poorest of the poor. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.viceland.com/int/v16n8/htdocs/something-something-something-detroit-994.php?page=1 Very funny article about Detroit ruin porn and all the cleverly cropped photos to make everything look depressing when outside journalists come to the city. I loved the line about a bunch of Billyburg hipsters moving to the city to start urban farms. Mostly because this is an actual dream of my girlfriend, and I can now use this to tease her that no one wants her to move in to their hood and start an urban farm. haha. -Art # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P
(313) OT: Nice article about the current state of journalism about the D
http://www.viceland.com/int/v16n8/htdocs/something-something-something-detroit-994.php?page=1 Very funny article about Detroit ruin porn and all the cleverly cropped photos to make everything look depressing when outside journalists come to the city. I loved the line about a bunch of “Billyburg hipsters” moving to the city to start urban farms. Mostly because this is an actual dream of my girlfriend, and I can now use this to tease her that no one wants her to move in to their hood and start an urban farm. haha. -Art
(313) [OT] smokin dubs(tep)
I too have caught the dubstep/wonky/housenfunky/dubbage bug lately. Here's my 'on the wagon' mix as played on basic.ch last weekend. http://jameshurlbut.net/mp3/mixes/basicch-111509.mp3 [1:39:07] [256Kbps] [181MB] [wholelottalimiter] Mark Pritchard feat Om'Mas Keith - Wind It Up (Freaks mix) - Hyperdub Aardvark - b1 - bloom Monkeysteak - Lighthouse Dub (pinch remix) - punchdrunk Caspa Rusko - King George - Aquatic Lab Zomby - Dripping Like Water - Ramp Untold - Discipline - hemlock Jack Sparrow - The Chase - Tectonic Indigo/Synkro - Heaven - Smoking Sessions Alexkid - Mousseur Dub - Rekids Roska - Concrete Jungle - MR007 Soundstream - Good Soul - soundstream Untold - Palamino - hemlock Pearson Sound - WAD - hessle audio Untold - No one likes a smart arse - hemlock Roska - Sheppard - MR007 Martyn - Mega Drive Generation - hyperdub Scuba - Aesaunic - Hotflush F - Night Dive - Transistor Al Tourettes - Sunken - Apple Pips Ghosts on Tape - Predator Mode (Roska remix) - Wireblock Epileptic (Martyn's no strobe mix) - shut up dance Scuba - Reverse - Hotflush Dom Hz - Dub Discipline (Synkro remix) - dubbed out 2562 - Dinosaur - Tectonic Untold - Don't Know Don't Care - hemlock Chez and Trent - a1 - look sort of 313! A Made Up Sound - Disconnect - archive Mount Kimbie - Sketch on Glass - Hotflush
(313) OT: skinny puppy on beatport
Today Beatport posted what I can only imagine will be the first in a series of Skinny Puppy digital re-releases. The singles that have been posted so far are Censor, Dig It, Chainsaw, Testure, and Addiction. I originally bought my first Skinny Puppy tracks on cassette tape. That is all. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
(313) OT Fu5k The BNP
Bit off topic and only for UK peoples, but this is kinda important. From the Hope Not Hate campaign. Despite widespread opposition Nick Griffin will be on Question Time this Thursday. The BBC have made their decision - they are willing to let a leader of a fascist Party on their flagship show. Last week the BNP agreed to change its constitution for fear of being found guilty of having a racist and illegal membership policy. On Sunday, Griffin attacked and abused his fellow panelists Bonnie Greer and Baroness Warsi for not being white. And yet the BBC still allow him on. Griffin's presence is a stain on the BBC. So I think we need to make a stand. On Thursday afternoon we're going to the BBC to deliver the Question Time presenter, David Dimbleby, thousands of messages of hope from our supporters. Your stories, your experiences and your belief in an open and tolerant society will send the strongest possible rejection of the BNP's message of hate. You can send your message of hope here: http://action.hopenothate.org.uk/questiontime The BNP's goal is to divide us. It's to whip up fear and hatred in our communities and then exploit the anger that they've induced. But we don't have to accept their hatred. m
Re: (313) OT Fu5k The BNP
On 21 Oct 2009, at 11:13, Lerato Khathi wrote: what a shambles ! the bbc are jokers really . we have truly entered the new age of conservatism /fascism in the Uk i feel . with the conservative party looking like the next government , i pity immigrants ++ in this country . lerato Absolutely Lerato, which is why in this case I really don't believe giving the BNP a massive platform is the right thing to do, times are hard and we need to stick together rather than letting this scum spread their hate and divide us. I also feel the panel will blow it. Sadly, in Sheffield we have a large bunch of neo-nazis (WNP/BPP/C18/ EDL), some of which are Griffin's hench men, anyone who wants to see what the real BNP are like is welcome to request a link from me because there's no way I'm putting it on a public list, the guys who run the site and be seen in pictures with Griffin and acting as his body guards. You may also find this an interesting read: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/david_aaronovitch/article6881553.ece# m
Re: (313) OT Fu5k The BNP
Seeing as we're discussing this on-list, please could someone explain to me why boycotting Nick Griffin/exclusing him from a debate is the 'right' thing to do? From the opening few lines of the article in The Times: Its an editorial decision based on a feeling for what the public think, and its correct. In 2009 people expect to make their own minds up, and dont want to be cushioned from discussion, however problematic. Please can someone give me a measured response why this is not the way forward? I am happy to be convinced otherwise. I have yet to be presented with anything that challenges my standpoint. N On 21 Oct 2009, at 11:13, Lerato Khathi wrote: what a shambles ! the bbc are jokers really . we have truly entered the new age of conservatism /fascism in the Uk i feel . with the conservative party looking like the next government , i pity immigrants ++ in this country . lerato Absolutely Lerato, which is why in this case I really don't believe giving the BNP a massive platform is the right thing to do, times are hard and we need to stick together rather than letting this scum spread their hate and divide us. I also feel the panel will blow it. Sadly, in Sheffield we have a large bunch of neo-nazis (WNP/BPP/C18/ EDL), some of which are Griffin's hench men, anyone who wants to see what the real BNP are like is welcome to request a link from me because there's no way I'm putting it on a public list, the guys who run the site and be seen in pictures with Griffin and acting as his body guards. You may also find this an interesting read: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/david_aaronovitch/article6881553.ece# m
RE: (313) OT Fu5k The BNP
This is OT and should remain off the list. It's an important issue, but it's not 313. Get ye to Disception.net [Maybe I'll see you there]. Seeing as we're discussing this on-list, please could someone explain to me why boycotting Nick Griffin/exclusing him from a debate is the 'right' thing to do? From the opening few lines of the article in The Times: It's an editorial decision based on a feeling for what the public think, and it's correct. In 2009 people expect to make their own minds up, and don't want to be cushioned from discussion, however problematic. Please can someone give me a measured response why this is not the way forward? I am happy to be convinced otherwise. I have yet to be presented with anything that challenges my standpoint. N On 21 Oct 2009, at 11:13, Lerato Khathi wrote: what a shambles ! the bbc are jokers really . we have truly entered the new age of conservatism /fascism in the Uk i feel . with the conservative party looking like the next government , i pity immigrants ++ in this country . lerato Absolutely Lerato, which is why in this case I really don't believe giving the BNP a massive platform is the right thing to do, times are hard and we need to stick together rather than letting this scum spread their hate and divide us. I also feel the panel will blow it. Sadly, in Sheffield we have a large bunch of neo-nazis (WNP/BPP/C18/ EDL), some of which are Griffin's hench men, anyone who wants to see what the real BNP are like is welcome to request a link from me because there's no way I'm putting it on a public list, the guys who run the site and be seen in pictures with Griffin and acting as his body guards. You may also find this an interesting read: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/david_aaronovitch/article6881553.ece# m
Re: (313) OT Spam Bin
On 15 Sep 2009, at 23:35, /0 wrote: odd. richard's didn't flag here. win7/live mail We use Spam Assassin server side, and it learns as it goes, so anything that's constantly repeated (same text in different mails from the same source) and is wired with loads of links just scores really high and gets labelled SPAM. Best thing is to mix it up and take all the links out of your sig... m
(313) OT: Chicago: Frankie Knuckles and Ralphie Rosario @ Smartbar Saturday, Sept 12
Not techno, but for fans of early dance music sounds, these two will be playing in Chi on Saturday. I've never seen them live, so I'm not sure if they are sticking to the old stuff or not but this might be interesting. Here's hoping we get some sweet WBMX action. -Art
RE: (313) OT: Jeff Mills in Chicago 16-10-2009
Found this in my e-mail this morning...for those in the neighbourhood:-) Friday 16 October 2009 at 10:00pm Axis Records presents 'And What About The Truth' ... JEFF MILLS COMMON FACTOR TYREL WILLIAMS Tickets: $15 before midnight, $20 after midnight 21 over Doors: 10pm / Show: 10pm Smart Bar 3730 N. Clark St. Chicago, IL, Chicago 60613 United States Tel: 773-549-0203 Web: www.smartbarchicago.com -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Frank Glazer [mailto:cpe1704...@gmail.com] Verzonden: woensdag 9 september 2009 2:06 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: (313) OT: Bill Laswell touring Has anybody seen this go round of Bill Laswell's ambient dub supergroup? musichallofwilliamsburg.com/event/3176 If Jah Wobble were with them I'd be THERE, but as it stands I'm hesitating. But with so many virtuousos I feel like I should maybe not miss it? Or is it mere sonic masturbation? Anybody know what kind of material (pun not intended) they're covering? Sent from my iPhone Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen meer dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord.
Re: (313) OT: Jeff Mills in Chicago 16-10-2009
Haha, in what universe is this OT? On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Martijn de Blaauwmartijn.de.bla...@woonconcept.nl wrote: Found this in my e-mail this morning...for those in the neighbourhood:-) Friday 16 October 2009 at 10:00pm Axis Records presents 'And What About The Truth' ... JEFF MILLS COMMON FACTOR TYREL WILLIAMS Tickets: $15 before midnight, $20 after midnight 21 over Doors: 10pm / Show: 10pm Smart Bar 3730 N. Clark St. Chicago, IL, Chicago 60613 United States Tel: 773-549-0203 Web: www.smartbarchicago.com -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Frank Glazer [mailto:cpe1704...@gmail.com] Verzonden: woensdag 9 september 2009 2:06 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: (313) OT: Bill Laswell touring Has anybody seen this go round of Bill Laswell's ambient dub supergroup? musichallofwilliamsburg.com/event/3176 If Jah Wobble were with them I'd be THERE, but as it stands I'm hesitating. But with so many virtuousos I feel like I should maybe not miss it? Or is it mere sonic masturbation? Anybody know what kind of material (pun not intended) they're covering? Sent from my iPhone Woningcorporatie Woonconcept zorgt voor veilige woonruimte van goede kwaliteit voor mensen, die daar zelfstandig niet in kunnen voorzien. En wij doen meer dan bouwen, zorgvuldig beheren en verhuren. We zetten ons in voor de leefbaarheid in de breedste zin van het woord.
(313) OT: Bill Laswell touring
Has anybody seen this go round of Bill Laswell's ambient dub supergroup? musichallofwilliamsburg.com/event/3176 If Jah Wobble were with them I'd be THERE, but as it stands I'm hesitating. But with so many virtuousos I feel like I should maybe not miss it? Or is it mere sonic masturbation? Anybody know what kind of material (pun not intended) they're covering? Sent from my iPhone
Re: (313) OT: Bill Laswell touring
So is bill laswell one of the performers or is he just presenting the Method of Defiance group? On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Frank Glazercpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: Has anybody seen this go round of Bill Laswell's ambient dub supergroup? musichallofwilliamsburg.com/event/3176 If Jah Wobble were with them I'd be THERE, but as it stands I'm hesitating. But with so many virtuousos I feel like I should maybe not miss it? Or is it mere sonic masturbation? Anybody know what kind of material (pun not intended) they're covering? Sent from my iPhone -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) OT: Bill Laswell touring
http://www.myspace.com/methodofdefiance btw - sounds like drum n bass jazz sample freakout ambient dub supergroup material. Sounds pretty cool, and it's in Brooklyn. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:25 PM, kuszyn...@gmail.comkuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: So is bill laswell one of the performers or is he just presenting the Method of Defiance group? On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Frank Glazercpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: Has anybody seen this go round of Bill Laswell's ambient dub supergroup? musichallofwilliamsburg.com/event/3176 If Jah Wobble were with them I'd be THERE, but as it stands I'm hesitating. But with so many virtuousos I feel like I should maybe not miss it? Or is it mere sonic masturbation? Anybody know what kind of material (pun not intended) they're covering? Sent from my iPhone -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
(313) OT: track IDs?
Looking to get a couple tracks IDed see my most recent blog entry for details http://www.deejaycountzero.com/blog/?p=161 -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
(313) OT - curious about performance software
I've been toying around with edits in Ableton lately and was dismayed to see it crashing constantly on my mac (never had this problem on my PC). Read a few forums, followed a dozen or so suggestions, none of which worked--the usual technical issue BS. Just wondering who uses what for their PA sets, assuming a computer is involved.
(313) [OT] Brüno
Is it me, or each time I see the advertising for this movie, I can't help thinking to some similar looking DJ : http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/07/13/movies/bruno.jpg Am I the only one ? -- Benoît.
Re: (313) [OT] Brüno
\in Holland all deejays look like this Benoît Pueyo schreef: Is it me, or each time I see the advertising for this movie, I can't help thinking to some similar looking DJ : http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/07/13/movies/bruno.jpg Am I the only one ?
RE: (313) [OT] Brüno
Hmmm ... IF and IG, look nothing like that. -Original Message- From: Marsel van der Wielen [mailto:mar...@nomorewords.net] Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:41 PM To: 313 list 313 Subject: Re: (313) [OT] Brüno \in Holland all deejays look like this Benoît Pueyo schreef: Is it me, or each time I see the advertising for this movie, I can't help thinking to some similar looking DJ : http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/07/13/movies/bruno.jpg Am I the only one ?
Re: (313) [OT] Brüno
they updated their formulas, 154 as well Odeluga, Ken schreef: Hmmm ... IF and IG, look nothing like that. -Original Message- From: Marsel van der Wielen [mailto:mar...@nomorewords.net] Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:41 PM To: 313 list 313 Subject: Re: (313) [OT] Brüno \in Holland all deejays look like this Benoît Pueyo schreef: Is it me, or each time I see the advertising for this movie, I can't help thinking to some similar looking DJ : http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/07/13/movies/bruno.jpg Am I the only one ?
RE: (313) [OT] Brüno
Ha ha this I'd like to see! ;-) -Original Message- From: Marsel van der Wielen [mailto:mar...@nomorewords.net] Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:47 PM To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) [OT] Brüno they updated their formulas, 154 as well Odeluga, Ken schreef: Hmmm ... IF and IG, look nothing like that. -Original Message- From: Marsel van der Wielen [mailto:mar...@nomorewords.net] Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:41 PM To: 313 list 313 Subject: Re: (313) [OT] Brüno \in Holland all deejays look like this Benoît Pueyo schreef: Is it me, or each time I see the advertising for this movie, I can't help thinking to some similar looking DJ : http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/07/13/movies/bruno.jpg Am I the only one ?
Re: (313) [OT] Brüno
I don't want to seem like a jerk by naming names, but I noticed a couple of NYC DJ friends of mine in Detroit this year sporting the razor cut reverse mullet as well. _ichie _awtin could be said to be rocking the Bruno as well, and even Ricardo Villalobos, but Ricardo redeems himself by turning it into a sweaty stringie mess the second he starts DJ'ing. While we're busting on DJ's looks, anyone else notice that Sven Vath is beginning to look a lot like Peter Stormare in Fargo -- you know, woodchipper guy? It's uncanny.
Re: (313) [OT] Brüno
Sacha Baron Cohen was rocking the 1s and 2s wy before it was cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8wrIgbiCgs MEK Benoît Pueyo benoit.pu...@gmail.com wrote on 07/13/2009 07:22:19 AM: Is it me, or each time I see the advertising for this movie, I can't help thinking to some similar looking DJ : http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/07/13/movies/bruno.jpg Am I the only one ? -- Benoît. Disclaimer The information in this email and any attachments may contain proprietary and confidential information that is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, retention or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. When addressed to our clients or vendors, any information contained in this e-mail or any attachments is subject to the terms and conditions in any governing contract. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately contact the sender and delete the e-mail.
(313) OT - Get Out And Vote
Do what you can to keep the BNP out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhbR3wuYDgw m
(313) OT in pocket: Does anybody know about record shopping in india?
Hi As part of a spiritual enrichment exercise i am traveling to india -specifically bangalore I want to buy up various late 70s - 80s bollywood soundtracks on wax...peepz like bappi lahiri (disco dancer) some of the production is wacko synth madness. Can any of you learned folk offer me some advice into vinyl shopping in india. from the outback Sam
Re: (313) OT in pocket: Does anybody know about record shopping in india?
Sam Shipping in/out of India (or anywhere in this region) is a nightmare. You will pay a ton, but use DHL or FedEx (I'm in Dubai and haven't seen a UPS truck yet). The next step would be for you to pack it - like...really overly crazy pack it. Then, when you go to the FedEx Kinko's - have them put their packaging over it, including cushioning. I would also recommend putting a plastic bag inside of your packaging, putting your records in that bag and sealing it. It is not uncommon for packages to be left in the rain. And insure it. Umm. yeah. The main reason for this is because you have a box that is outside of normal regulations (size/weight). This isn't america or western europe, as I'm sure you are aware. Good luck in Bangalore. Be safe - there have been a rash of violent acts towards westerners up north, and it is quickly spreading south. -Mike On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Samuel Karmel samuel.kar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi As part of a spiritual enrichment exercise i am traveling to india -specifically bangalore I want to buy up various late 70s - 80s bollywood soundtracks on wax...peepz like bappi lahiri (disco dancer) some of the production is wacko synth madness. Can any of you learned folk offer me some advice into vinyl shopping in india. from the outback Sam
(313) OT: 313 in Miami?!
In miami for the week. Any suggestion on the likely non-existent 313 related events, stores or places? Any cool stuff that is not 313 but not lame? Art, restaurants, things to see? Thanks for being a great audience. Reply off list if that works better. Thanks. Maybe we can have a 313 beer if anyone is around. -- Michael Kuszynski -- Michael Kuszynski kuszyn...@gmail.com www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) [OT] Chicago Hip House Doco
Awesome! 2009/4/20 Southern Outpost senti...@southernoutpost.com: Found this gem on the 'Tube... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2zNvBNTnHg
(313) [OT] Chicago Hip House Doco
Found this gem on the 'Tube... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2zNvBNTnHg
Re: (313) OT: Stanton SMX-301 DJ mixer zapped?! Final verdict
Not sure a new PSU's gonna do me any good, but maybe it wouldn't hurt to give it a whirl: - Thor, You must some serious carpet in your place! I would start off by checking the power supply of the unit I believe that the problem could be coming from there. I would suggest buying a new one to see if it works otherwise the cost of repair will exceed the cost of the mixer. Thanks Robert Strachan aka Dj jungle boy - On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Thor Teague thor.tea...@gmail.com wrote: MEK, yeah looks that way! :) It was bright when this happened... I think if it was dark it would have been almost as bright as a camera flash. (No bad little kids doing bad little things though). Kent, I tested everything, albeit less than maniacally. Let's assume yes right now. I could literally pull it out and check every connection, but I consider it 95%+ certain that the problem is the mixer. Maybe the building isn't grounded properly. I live in a super old building, probably earlier 20th century build, like first quarter ish. Just a guess, though, I have nothing to back that up. - Kent wrote: That's messed up. First off, is the mixer the problem? I.e. can you run an IPod, CD Player, etc into your amp and hear sound? Do your turntables still produce sound (maybe hard to do without a phono preamp or mixer, but worth checking). If so, the mixer is kinda shot. You can try getting it replaced under warranty from Stanton. It's weird that you could build up enough static charge to fry it -- for one thing the chassis is grounded, so any electrical charge should have gone straight to ground. For another, all static-sensitive components (and there really shouldn't be many) should not be vulnernerable because the path of least resistance is through chassis ground.
(313) OT: Stanton SMX-301 DJ mixer zapped?!
Hello 313, Pardon the OT, but I know someone will have insight if they could hit me back offlist. I recently was cleaning my apartment, and this arc of static electricity the likes of which I've never seen jumped off my hand and into my mixer. The audio POPPED loudly and went dead. After that, it would power/light up and bump the speakers but it does not accept any input whatsoever. No bouncing levels, no audio (obviously), no headphone cueing, no booth output. Is this something that could be feasably fixed or should I get a new mixer? The SMX-301 is not a particularly expensive model, but if it's fixable maybe it makes sense to do so. Otherwise, might be time for a new mixer! E-mail me offlist with any insight, sorry bout the spam.
Re: (313) OT: Stanton SMX-301 DJ mixer zapped?!
That's messed up. First off, is the mixer the problem? I.e. can you run an IPod, CD Player, etc into your amp and hear sound? Do your turntables still produce sound (maybe hard to do without a phono preamp or mixer, but worth checking). If so, the mixer is kinda shot. You can try getting it replaced under warranty from Stanton. It's weird that you could build up enough static charge to fry it -- for one thing the chassis is grounded, so any electrical charge should have gone straight to ground. For another, all static-sensitive components (and there really shouldn't be many) should not be vulnernerable because the path of least resistance is through chassis ground. But there's a first time for everything. Let me know what you find out. I've been messing around with stereo gear longer than you've been alive and never heard of anything like this. On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Thor Teague thor.tea...@gmail.com wrote: Hello 313, Pardon the OT, but I know someone will have insight if they could hit me back offlist. I recently was cleaning my apartment, and this arc of static electricity the likes of which I've never seen jumped off my hand and into my mixer. The audio POPPED loudly and went dead. After that, it would power/light up and bump the speakers but it does not accept any input whatsoever. No bouncing levels, no audio (obviously), no headphone cueing, no booth output. Is this something that could be feasably fixed or should I get a new mixer? The SMX-301 is not a particularly expensive model, but if it's fixable maybe it makes sense to do so. Otherwise, might be time for a new mixer! E-mail me offlist with any insight, sorry bout the spam.
Re: (313) OT: Stanton SMX-301 DJ mixer zapped?!
MEK, yeah looks that way! :) It was bright when this happened... I think if it was dark it would have been almost as bright as a camera flash. (No bad little kids doing bad little things though). Kent, I tested everything, albeit less than maniacally. Let's assume yes right now. I could literally pull it out and check every connection, but I consider it 95%+ certain that the problem is the mixer. Maybe the building isn't grounded properly. I live in a super old building, probably earlier 20th century build, like first quarter ish. Just a guess, though, I have nothing to back that up. - Kent wrote: That's messed up. First off, is the mixer the problem? I.e. can you run an IPod, CD Player, etc into your amp and hear sound? Do your turntables still produce sound (maybe hard to do without a phono preamp or mixer, but worth checking). If so, the mixer is kinda shot. You can try getting it replaced under warranty from Stanton. It's weird that you could build up enough static charge to fry it -- for one thing the chassis is grounded, so any electrical charge should have gone straight to ground. For another, all static-sensitive components (and there really shouldn't be many) should not be vulnernerable because the path of least resistance is through chassis ground.
(313) (OT) Andrew Duke In The Mix 15Dec08 show
just a wee bit of 313 content on the show this week (4 songs), thus the (OT): Cognition Audioworks presents Andrew Duke In The Mix 15Dec08 show 1hr 58min 320kbps MP3 http://cognitionaudioworks.com/AndrewDukeInTheMix15Dec08show.mp3 previous shows: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/AndrewDukeInTheMix.html 01. Robert Henke--Layer 001 (from Layering Buddha) (Imbalance Computer Music 06) 02. Variant—The Setting Sun (from The Setting Sun) (Echospace [Detroit]) 03. Burial--In MacDonald’s (from Untrue) (Hyperdub) 04. Francisco Lopez--Brain Research (from TechnoCalyps original motion picture soundtrack) (Alien8 CD77) 05. Fern Lodge—-Moss 06. Clinker—-The Aggregates (pt. 1--Fluorescence) (Clinkersound) 07. Andrea Borghi--Magi (Andp32) 08. Galerie Stratique--Mecanique Onirique (from Faux World) (Statik) 09. Kim Cascone--The Little Apocrypha (from In Memoriam Andrey Tarkovsky compilation) (Exc 015) 10. Machinefabriek + Stephen Vitiello--Bells, Book, Tin Foil, Buttons (from Box Music) (12k 1048) 11. Sawako--Alexander wendt remix (from Summer Tour Remixes Volume 2) (Anticipate) 12. Amplifier Machine--Her Mouth Is An Outlaw (from Her Mouth Is An Outlaw) (12k 1049) 13. Mental Health Consumer—Disconnected (from The Measurement Spoils The Data) (Experimedia 050) 14. Naw--Faulty Sky Machine (from Digital Dub compilation) (Vague Terrain 010) 15. Meczup--Ongles Coupes 16. Cray—Kinamets (track 5 of 7) (Snapped In Half 16) 17. Andrew Duke--Ninety Seven (Cognition Audioworks) 18. Ascanio Borga—Self Interference (from Inner Geometry) 19. Subtle Noise Maker—Circuitricity 20. Aidan Baker Tim Hecker--Phantom On A Pedestal (from Fantasma Parastasie) (Alien8 CD81) 21. Konsole--Dub Select (from General Assembly compilation) (Diplomatik 003) 22. Aidan Baker Tim Hecker--Hymn To The Idea Of Night (from Fantasma Parastasie) (Alien8 CD81) 23. Monoceros--6EQUJ5 (from I Feel Apocalyptic Today) (Imaginary Nonexistent 008) 24. Saikoss--Page 7 Line 17 (Mule Electronic) 25. Vangelis—-Rachel’s Song (from Blade Runner original motion picture soundtrack) (Atlantic) 26. Scuba--Tell Her (Hot Flush) 27. Mosaik--Rubik (Monotonik 066) 28. Twister--Watercolour (from Ascension 3) (Sci 008) 29. Pinch—-Qawwali 1 30. Shahrokh Sound Of K. featuring Toynin Taylor--Love Happens (from Dripping Point) (Compost 306-9) 31. Boys Noize--The Battery (Boys Noize) 32. The Bug featuring Flowdan--Jah War (Loefah remix) (Ninja Tune) 33. Black Mass Plastics--Pandemic (from Mutate To Survive) (Rag Bone 019) 34. Jimmy Edgar--My Beats (from Color Strip) (Warp) 35. Ill.Gates Meesha--Eggplantation (from Autopirate) (Muti! CD006) 36. Fool--Drama (Hum + Haw 002) 37. Milosh--Awful Game (Studio !K7) 38. Adrien 75--Enter The Realm (from Theo Fish Hole Spawn Spore) 39. Excision--Serious Business (from Wasted/Serious Business) (Rag Bone 020) 40. Rusko Caspa--Custard Chucker (Sub Soldiers) 41. Kode 9 Space Ape--Portal (Hyperdub) 42. Ookpikk--Hooray For Public Healthcare (from Total Home-Job) (So Called) 43. Truckasaurus--Ain't No Danbo (Fourth City) 44. Rec Overflow featuring Crisopa--Negative Thing (from Popular Is Wrong) (Ltwnet0020) 45. Lackluster vs Keef Baker (N5MD) 46. Mimosa--Lullabyte (from Hostilis) (Muti! 023) 47. Zeno--Blazin' The Stuff (from Blazin' The Stuff/Boxed In) (Sub.mission 5U8.999) 48. Komonazmuk--Preset Whore (Mode) 49. Jimmy Edgar--I Wanna Be Your STD (from Color Strip) (Warp) 50. Common--The Light '09 (Beatnick K-Salaam remix) (from S.T.O.R.Y.) 51. Jay Haze--Cocktail (from Love Beyond Part II) (Tuning Spork) 52. Kardinall Offishall featuring The Clipse--Set It Off (from Not 4 Sale) (Konlive) 53. Model 500--The Flow (R S) 54. T.R.O.--Phasejump (Maschine Musik 011) 55. Herbaliser--You're Not All That (Studio !K7) 56. Dino Felipe--Alien Ation (from Personality Crisis) (Bedroom Research 021) 57. :Papercutz--Ultravioleta (Neotropic's Violet Of Ultra mix) (from Ultravioleta remixes) (Apegenine 006) 58. The Hermit--Home (Tomas Jirku's Naturhaus mix) (Nettwerk) 59. Bitbasic--Strafe (from Andrew Duke Chain Reaction contest) (Foem/Crema 004) 60. Burial--Distant Lights (Kode 9 mix) (from Distant Lights) (Hyperdub) -- Andrew Duke In The Mix (est. 1987): exclusive mixes, PAs, interviews: Daniel Bell, Minto George, Stewart Walker, Aux 88, and more http://cognitionaudioworks.com/AndrewDukeInTheMix.html http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=33229983918 Andrew Duke FB: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=852160229 Cognition Audioworks FB: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1614666166 please email links to MP3 promos or mail CD/vinyl to 57 Hastings Drive Dartmouth NS Canada B2Y 2C7
(313) OT - question for video geeks about DVD players
sorry about the way OT-ness of this topic but I figured there'd be a few audio/video geeks on the list that might be able to answer this question (or give suggestions) our DVD player is on the fritz and I'd love to get a new one that will play all regions any good suggestions? all replies off-list please MEK
(313) OT: visiting glasgow dec 9th-dec 14th
I've talked to some heads off list about this but wanted to give one final call out to the list. I'll be flying into Glasgow on December 9th in the early evening and staying until Dec 14th. What's the best way to find out about club nights/parties to check out? I'll definitely want to hit up rub-a-dub. Can anybody recommend anything else in the way of shopping or sightseeing? Also, on the off chance that somebody's looking for a dj for a party or club night, I'd be glad to throw down a few platters. ;) peace, frank / count zero -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
(313) (OT) Andrew Duke's In The Mix 24Nov08 show now available
didn't play anything 313-related this week, but just in case you're interested: Cognition Audioworks presents Andrew Duke's In The Mix 24Nov08 show features contributions from Andrew Duke, Pole, Ezekiel Honig, naw, Zeno, Fool, Alex Smoke, Shadowhuntaz MC Non, Chris ex-Funkstorung De Luca, Phon.o, Kardinal Offishall, Akon, Clinton Sparks, Proem, Ookpik, Tomas Jirku, Burial, Noisia, Mayhem, and KRS One; full artist/song/label tracklist: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/AndrewDuke'sInTheMix24Nov08showtracklist.txt download: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/AndrewDuke'sInTheMix24Nov08show.mp3 -- Andrew Duke's In The Mix: exclusive mixes, PAs, interviews: Daniel Bell, Minto George, Stewart Walker, Aux 88 http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=33229983918 Andrew Duke FB: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=852160229 Cognition Audioworks FB: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1614666166 please email links to MP3 promos or mail CD/vinyl to 57 Hastings Drive Dartmouth NS Canada B2Y 2C7
(313) (OT) Sydney
Hi, I will be in Sydney from the 28-30th Sept. Does anyone know of any interesting music/art/dance events going on - or any top tips in general? Cheers, N
Re: (313) (OT) Sydney
http://www.anode.net.au/ On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Nik Stoltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I will be in Sydney from the 28-30th Sept. Does anyone know of any interesting music/art/dance events going on - or any top tips in general? Cheers, N
Re: (313) (OT) Sydney
I spent all my time in Kings Cross while I was there. I had fun, but don't remember a lot of it. Never even saw the Opera House or anything else like that. www.SettleTheScore.org When we feel strongly about something, it is our natural desire to let others know. Now there is a place to do just that. www.SettleTheScore.org --- On Wed, 9/24/08, Nik Stoltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Nik Stoltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (313) (OT) Sydney To: 313@hyperreal.org Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 4:42 AM Hi, I will be in Sydney from the 28-30th Sept. Does anyone know of any interesting music/art/dance events going on - or any top tips in general? Cheers, N
Re: (313) (OT) Sydney
Hi Nik, Check out http://www.inthemix.com.au that should have details of upcoming parties etc. P. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Nik Stoltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I will be in Sydney from the 28-30th Sept. Does anyone know of any interesting music/art/dance events going on - or any top tips in general? Cheers, N -- -- Southern Outpost Sydney - San Francisco - Berlin http://www.southernoutpost.com --
RE: (313) OT: earbud recommendations?
Cool. Glad you find ones that suit you - and thanks for the research, I
will try to check out the SE100s as I'll be needing some ear phones
myself soon I think.
One thing puzzles me though: how did you mannage to return used in-ear
ear phones?!?!? :)
Ken
-Original Message-
From: darnistle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 3:18 AM
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) OT: earbud recommendations?
Update to this week-long drama:
The Shure E4c-N earphones arrived in the mail. Though they are good
earphones, they don't really hold a candle to the Shure SE100s.
The Shure E4c-N has much more noticeable bass, but the mids and highs
aren't as crisp and clear as the SE100s. Feeling disappointed and
thwarted, I decided to return the E4C-Ns and buy the SE100s once again.
This time, I experimented with the different earpads for the SE100 and
found the right one for my ear. The increase in bass and overall
richness was immediate. The bass now is very clear and I'm very
surprised that these earphones are able to produce some of the really
low bass in certain dubstep or techno tracks.
So my final assessment is that the Sennheiser CX300s and the Shure E4C-N
are pretty similar in quality, though the CX300s were a little less
expensive. Either of them would be a very good replacement for the Sony
MDR-EX71SL earphones.
However, the SE100s win the prize for clarity and richness!!! It is
really worth paying the extra money for such a marked improvement in the
sound quality!! Making the effort to try the different earpads will pay
off when you find the ones that fit your ears in just the right way.
{}0+|
darnistle wrote:
Funny that this topic should come up at this time. My favorite Sony
MDR-EX71SL earbuds developed a short in the cord last week, so it was
time to buy another pair. The last set lasted for more than two
years,
which is really good considering that I use them daily for hours at a
time and am not as careful with them as I should be.
This time, I decided to try some other brands and took the plunge and
bought the Shure SE100s from a store in town. At $100 it was
expensive,
but I was curious to see if there was any significant increase in
sound
quality.
The clarity and imaging were astounding!! Truly!! Listening to
tracks
I was well familiar with was like hearing them anew: all sorts of
nuances I'd never heard before were suddenly very clear. The
earphones
also did an excellent job of blocking outside sounds. I felt like I
was
in a wonderfully exquisite aural cocoon.
My only complaint about them was the lack of bass, even though I tried
pushing the earpads further in my ear. It helped somewhat, but not as
much as I would have expected. I thought to put on one of the
alternate
earpads to ensure a better fit, but had trouble getting the pads off.
I
didn't want to risk ripping the rubber cover since I wasn't sure if
I'd
keep the earphones. I never got to experiment to see if using
different
earpads would help with the bass problem.
I convinced myself to return the earphones to the store because of the
bass issue, but the sheer clarity of the sound haunted me for days
after.
Instead, I bought a pair of Sennheiser CX300s, which sounded just as
good as my old Sonys. They aren't really sound isolating, but they
deliver a good, even sound. No complaints at all. Problem is that
those Shure earphones were SO good, I couldn't deny the massive
difference in quality.
Now that my ears got a taste of the really good stuff, they weren't
havin' the Sennheisers, so I went online this evening and finally
decided to buy the Shure E4c-N earphones today on Amazon.com ($89!!!),
since they got even better reviews than the ones I tried a few days
ago!
Assuming the E4C-N is as good as I hope it'll be, I'll probably keep
the
Sennheiser earphones as a standby in case something happens to the
Shures.
{}0+|
Frank Glazer wrote:
I'm in the market for some new earbuds for ipod listening on the
train. It's been about a year since this subject was last mentioned
on list, I checked the archives but thought an update wouldn't hurt.
I want something very loud with strong, clear defined bass response.
They need to block a significant amount of outside sound so that i
don't have to hear chatter or rail noise. So what's everybody using
for earbuds these days? I'm considering one of the following:
http://www.amazon.com/Shure-E2c-n-Sound-Isolating-Earphones/dp/B000E5
GKW8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221435680sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/V-MODA-Vibe-Earbuds-Gunmetal-Black/dp/B000V5L5M
G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221436093sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-ER4S-Reference-Earphones/dp/B
000300Y9O/ref=wl_it_dp?ie=UTF8coliid=I3TBZ27N3IMN3Ocolid=2ZPLTMQTI9
YUX
http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-Portable-Earphones-Black/dp/B
000XPG2QI/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1
Re: (313) OT: earbud recommendations?
I've had the Sonys, cx300s and Shure E2C in the past and I have to say the CX400s I now have are probably better than all these. The E2cs are nice (sound and build) but the way in which the cables go over the ears is a little fiddly. robin... The Shure E4c-N earphones arrived in the mail. Though they are good earphones, they don't really hold a candle to the Shure SE100s. The Shure E4c-N has much more noticeable bass, but the mids and highs aren't as crisp and clear as the SE100s. Feeling disappointed and thwarted, I decided to return the E4C-Ns and buy the SE100s once again. This time, I experimented with the different earpads for the SE100 and found the right one for my ear. The increase in bass and overall richness was immediate. The bass now is very clear and I'm very surprised that these earphones are able to produce some of the really low bass in certain dubstep or techno tracks. So my final assessment is that the Sennheiser CX300s and the Shure E4C-N are pretty similar in quality, though the CX300s were a little less expensive. Either of them would be a very good replacement for the Sony MDR-EX71SL earphones. However, the SE100s win the prize for clarity and richness!!! It is really worth paying the extra money for such a marked improvement in the sound quality!! Making the effort to try the different earpads will pay off when you find the ones that fit your ears in just the right way.
Re: (313) OT: earbud recommendations?
Sennheiser CX-300 will do the job very properly – although they're not very solid built. And, when you compare them with any Shure or M- audio, you'll see that they sound much better even though they're much cheaper! Kw On Sep 14, 2008, at 8:51 PM, Frank Glazer wrote: I'm in the market for some new earbuds for ipod listening on the train. It's been about a year since this subject was last mentioned on list, I checked the archives but thought an update wouldn't hurt. I want something very loud with strong, clear defined bass response. They need to block a significant amount of outside sound so that i don't have to hear chatter or rail noise. So what's everybody using for earbuds these days? I'm considering one of the following: http://www.amazon.com/Shure-E2c-n-Sound-Isolating-Earphones/dp/B000E5GKW8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221435680sr=1-1 http://www.amazon.com/V-MODA-Vibe-Earbuds-Gunmetal-Black/dp/B000V5L5MG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221436093sr=1-1 http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-ER4S-Reference-Earphones/dp/B000300Y9O/ref=wl_it_dp?ie=UTF8coliid=I3TBZ27N3IMN3Ocolid=2ZPLTMQTI9YUX http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-Portable-Earphones-Black/dp/B000XPG2QI/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221434596sr=8-1 http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-IE-10-Professional-Reference-Monitors/dp/B000JNNNBQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=musical-instrumentsqid=1221436137sr=1-1 http://www.amazon.com/Philips-SHE9850-Headphones-Advanced-Acoustics/dp/B00176TEGM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221435109sr=1-1 or your recommendation under $175 Thanks in advance! -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) OT: earbud recommendations?
Very simple: I took them back to the store.
The first place didn't ask why I was returning them. They simply issued
the refund.
The second place asked and I told them I wasn't happy with the sound
quality. They didn't ask any more questions after that.
I got the third set through the mail, but I told that company the same
thing, namely that I was unhappy with the sound quality. They didn't
make an issue out of it and said they'd refund the money once they
received the item in the mail.
{}0+|
Odeluga, Ken wrote:
Cool. Glad you find ones that suit you - and thanks for the research, I
will try to check out the SE100s as I'll be needing some ear phones
myself soon I think.
One thing puzzles me though: how did you mannage to return used in-ear
ear phones?!?!? :)
Ken
-Original Message-
From: darnistle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 3:18 AM
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) OT: earbud recommendations?
Update to this week-long drama:
The Shure E4c-N earphones arrived in the mail. Though they are good
earphones, they don't really hold a candle to the Shure SE100s.
The Shure E4c-N has much more noticeable bass, but the mids and highs
aren't as crisp and clear as the SE100s. Feeling disappointed and
thwarted, I decided to return the E4C-Ns and buy the SE100s once again.
This time, I experimented with the different earpads for the SE100 and
found the right one for my ear. The increase in bass and overall
richness was immediate. The bass now is very clear and I'm very
surprised that these earphones are able to produce some of the really
low bass in certain dubstep or techno tracks.
So my final assessment is that the Sennheiser CX300s and the Shure E4C-N
are pretty similar in quality, though the CX300s were a little less
expensive. Either of them would be a very good replacement for the Sony
MDR-EX71SL earphones.
However, the SE100s win the prize for clarity and richness!!! It is
really worth paying the extra money for such a marked improvement in the
sound quality!! Making the effort to try the different earpads will pay
off when you find the ones that fit your ears in just the right way.
{}0+|
darnistle wrote:
Funny that this topic should come up at this time. My favorite Sony
MDR-EX71SL earbuds developed a short in the cord last week, so it was
time to buy another pair. The last set lasted for more than two
years,
which is really good considering that I use them daily for hours at a
time and am not as careful with them as I should be.
This time, I decided to try some other brands and took the plunge and
bought the Shure SE100s from a store in town. At $100 it was
expensive,
but I was curious to see if there was any significant increase in
sound
quality.
The clarity and imaging were astounding!! Truly!! Listening to
tracks
I was well familiar with was like hearing them anew: all sorts of
nuances I'd never heard before were suddenly very clear. The
earphones
also did an excellent job of blocking outside sounds. I felt like I
was
in a wonderfully exquisite aural cocoon.
My only complaint about them was the lack of bass, even though I tried
pushing the earpads further in my ear. It helped somewhat, but not as
much as I would have expected. I thought to put on one of the
alternate
earpads to ensure a better fit, but had trouble getting the pads off.
I
didn't want to risk ripping the rubber cover since I wasn't sure if
I'd
keep the earphones. I never got to experiment to see if using
different
earpads would help with the bass problem.
I convinced myself to return the earphones to the store because of the
bass issue, but the sheer clarity of the sound haunted me for days
after.
Instead, I bought a pair of Sennheiser CX300s, which sounded just as
good as my old Sonys. They aren't really sound isolating, but they
deliver a good, even sound. No complaints at all. Problem is that
those Shure earphones were SO good, I couldn't deny the massive
difference in quality.
Now that my ears got a taste of the really good stuff, they weren't
havin' the Sennheisers, so I went online this evening and finally
decided to buy the Shure E4c-N earphones today on Amazon.com ($89!!!),
since they got even better reviews than the ones I tried a few days
ago!
Assuming the E4C-N is as good as I hope it'll be, I'll probably keep
the
Sennheiser earphones as a standby in case something happens to the
Shures.
{}0+|
Frank Glazer wrote:
I'm in the market for some new earbuds for ipod listening on the
train. It's been about a year since this subject was last mentioned
on list, I checked the archives but thought an update wouldn't hurt.
I want something very loud with strong, clear defined bass response.
They need to block a significant amount of outside sound so that i
don't have to hear chatter or rail noise. So what's everybody using
for earbuds these days? I'm considering one of the following
Re: (313) OT: earbud recommendations?
jr down by city hall in new york will not allow earbud returns which
is why i did not make a purchase when i went there today to buy two or
three sets to test.
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 6:07 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Very simple: I took them back to the store.
The first place didn't ask why I was returning them. They simply issued the
refund.
The second place asked and I told them I wasn't happy with the sound
quality. They didn't ask any more questions after that.
I got the third set through the mail, but I told that company the same
thing, namely that I was unhappy with the sound quality. They didn't make
an issue out of it and said they'd refund the money once they received the
item in the mail.
{}0+|
Odeluga, Ken wrote:
Cool. Glad you find ones that suit you - and thanks for the research, I
will try to check out the SE100s as I'll be needing some ear phones
myself soon I think.
One thing puzzles me though: how did you mannage to return used in-ear
ear phones?!?!? :)
Ken
-Original Message-
From: darnistle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September
22, 2008 3:18 AM
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) OT: earbud recommendations?
Update to this week-long drama:
The Shure E4c-N earphones arrived in the mail. Though they are good
earphones, they don't really hold a candle to the Shure SE100s.
The Shure E4c-N has much more noticeable bass, but the mids and highs
aren't as crisp and clear as the SE100s. Feeling disappointed and thwarted,
I decided to return the E4C-Ns and buy the SE100s once again.
This time, I experimented with the different earpads for the SE100 and
found the right one for my ear. The increase in bass and overall richness
was immediate. The bass now is very clear and I'm very surprised that these
earphones are able to produce some of the really low bass in certain dubstep
or techno tracks.
So my final assessment is that the Sennheiser CX300s and the Shure E4C-N
are pretty similar in quality, though the CX300s were a little less
expensive. Either of them would be a very good replacement for the Sony
MDR-EX71SL earphones.
However, the SE100s win the prize for clarity and richness!!! It is
really worth paying the extra money for such a marked improvement in the
sound quality!! Making the effort to try the different earpads will pay
off when you find the ones that fit your ears in just the right way.
{}0+|
darnistle wrote:
Funny that this topic should come up at this time. My favorite Sony
MDR-EX71SL earbuds developed a short in the cord last week, so it was
time to buy another pair. The last set lasted for more than two
years,
which is really good considering that I use them daily for hours at a
time and am not as careful with them as I should be.
This time, I decided to try some other brands and took the plunge and
bought the Shure SE100s from a store in town. At $100 it was
expensive,
but I was curious to see if there was any significant increase in
sound
quality.
The clarity and imaging were astounding!! Truly!! Listening to tracks
I was well familiar with was like hearing them anew: all sorts of
nuances I'd never heard before were suddenly very clear. The
earphones
also did an excellent job of blocking outside sounds. I felt like I
was
in a wonderfully exquisite aural cocoon.
My only complaint about them was the lack of bass, even though I tried
pushing the earpads further in my ear. It helped somewhat, but not as
much as I would have expected. I thought to put on one of the
alternate
earpads to ensure a better fit, but had trouble getting the pads off.
I
didn't want to risk ripping the rubber cover since I wasn't sure if
I'd
keep the earphones. I never got to experiment to see if using
different
earpads would help with the bass problem.
I convinced myself to return the earphones to the store because of the
bass issue, but the sheer clarity of the sound haunted me for days
after.
Instead, I bought a pair of Sennheiser CX300s, which sounded just as
good as my old Sonys. They aren't really sound isolating, but they
deliver a good, even sound. No complaints at all. Problem is that those
Shure earphones were SO good, I couldn't deny the massive difference in
quality.
Now that my ears got a taste of the really good stuff, they weren't
havin' the Sennheisers, so I went online this evening and finally decided
to buy the Shure E4c-N earphones today on Amazon.com ($89!!!),
since they got even better reviews than the ones I tried a few days
ago!
Assuming the E4C-N is as good as I hope it'll be, I'll probably keep the
Sennheiser earphones as a standby in case something happens to the
Shures.
{}0+|
Frank Glazer wrote:
I'm in the market for some new earbuds for ipod listening on the train.
It's been about a year since this subject was last mentioned on list, I
checked the archives but thought an update
Re: (313) OT: earbud recommendations?
hate the little rubber earpieces that pop off and disappear at the worst times. - Original Message - From: Kowalsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [313] 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:59 AM Subject: Re: (313) OT: earbud recommendations? Sennheiser CX-300 will do the job very properly – although they're not very solid built. And, when you compare them with any Shure or M- audio, you'll see that they sound much better even though they're much cheaper! Kw On Sep 14, 2008, at 8:51 PM, Frank Glazer wrote: I'm in the market for some new earbuds for ipod listening on the train. It's been about a year since this subject was last mentioned on list, I checked the archives but thought an update wouldn't hurt. I want something very loud with strong, clear defined bass response. They need to block a significant amount of outside sound so that i don't have to hear chatter or rail noise. So what's everybody using for earbuds these days? I'm considering one of the following: http://www.amazon.com/Shure-E2c-n-Sound-Isolating-Earphones/dp/B000E5GKW8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221435680sr=1-1 http://www.amazon.com/V-MODA-Vibe-Earbuds-Gunmetal-Black/dp/B000V5L5MG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221436093sr=1-1 http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-ER4S-Reference-Earphones/dp/B000300Y9O/ref=wl_it_dp?ie=UTF8coliid=I3TBZ27N3IMN3Ocolid=2ZPLTMQTI9YUX http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-Portable-Earphones-Black/dp/B000XPG2QI/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221434596sr=8-1 http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-IE-10-Professional-Reference-Monitors/dp/B000JNNNBQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=musical-instrumentsqid=1221436137sr=1-1 http://www.amazon.com/Philips-SHE9850-Headphones-Advanced-Acoustics/dp/B00176TEGM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221435109sr=1-1 or your recommendation under $175 Thanks in advance! -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) OT: earbud recommendations?
jr makes you feel like a criminal for returning something that isn't
even opened!!! (believe me it happened) - I only go there for things
I know that I really have to use and that I won't be returning... they
really do have one of the cheapest prices if you don't want to wait
for your things in the mail
i recs going to best buy (or any other store for that matter) and
getting them to match price.
amazon is ok for returns (as far as I have experienced)...
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
jr down by city hall in new york will not allow earbud returns which
is why i did not make a purchase when i went there today to buy two or
three sets to test.
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 6:07 PM, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Very simple: I took them back to the store.
The first place didn't ask why I was returning them. They simply issued the
refund.
The second place asked and I told them I wasn't happy with the sound
quality. They didn't ask any more questions after that.
I got the third set through the mail, but I told that company the same
thing, namely that I was unhappy with the sound quality. They didn't make
an issue out of it and said they'd refund the money once they received the
item in the mail.
{}0+|
Odeluga, Ken wrote:
Cool. Glad you find ones that suit you - and thanks for the research, I
will try to check out the SE100s as I'll be needing some ear phones
myself soon I think.
One thing puzzles me though: how did you mannage to return used in-ear
ear phones?!?!? :)
Ken
-Original Message-
From: darnistle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September
22, 2008 3:18 AM
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) OT: earbud recommendations?
Update to this week-long drama:
The Shure E4c-N earphones arrived in the mail. Though they are good
earphones, they don't really hold a candle to the Shure SE100s.
The Shure E4c-N has much more noticeable bass, but the mids and highs
aren't as crisp and clear as the SE100s. Feeling disappointed and thwarted,
I decided to return the E4C-Ns and buy the SE100s once again.
This time, I experimented with the different earpads for the SE100 and
found the right one for my ear. The increase in bass and overall richness
was immediate. The bass now is very clear and I'm very surprised that these
earphones are able to produce some of the really low bass in certain dubstep
or techno tracks.
So my final assessment is that the Sennheiser CX300s and the Shure E4C-N
are pretty similar in quality, though the CX300s were a little less
expensive. Either of them would be a very good replacement for the Sony
MDR-EX71SL earphones.
However, the SE100s win the prize for clarity and richness!!! It is
really worth paying the extra money for such a marked improvement in the
sound quality!! Making the effort to try the different earpads will pay
off when you find the ones that fit your ears in just the right way.
{}0+|
darnistle wrote:
Funny that this topic should come up at this time. My favorite Sony
MDR-EX71SL earbuds developed a short in the cord last week, so it was
time to buy another pair. The last set lasted for more than two
years,
which is really good considering that I use them daily for hours at a
time and am not as careful with them as I should be.
This time, I decided to try some other brands and took the plunge and
bought the Shure SE100s from a store in town. At $100 it was
expensive,
but I was curious to see if there was any significant increase in
sound
quality.
The clarity and imaging were astounding!! Truly!! Listening to tracks
I was well familiar with was like hearing them anew: all sorts of
nuances I'd never heard before were suddenly very clear. The
earphones
also did an excellent job of blocking outside sounds. I felt like I
was
in a wonderfully exquisite aural cocoon.
My only complaint about them was the lack of bass, even though I tried
pushing the earpads further in my ear. It helped somewhat, but not as
much as I would have expected. I thought to put on one of the
alternate
earpads to ensure a better fit, but had trouble getting the pads off.
I
didn't want to risk ripping the rubber cover since I wasn't sure if
I'd
keep the earphones. I never got to experiment to see if using
different
earpads would help with the bass problem.
I convinced myself to return the earphones to the store because of the
bass issue, but the sheer clarity of the sound haunted me for days
after.
Instead, I bought a pair of Sennheiser CX300s, which sounded just as
good as my old Sonys. They aren't really sound isolating, but they
deliver a good, even sound. No complaints at all. Problem is that those
Shure earphones were SO good, I couldn't deny the massive difference in
quality.
Now that my ears got a taste of the really good stuff, they weren't
havin' the Sennheisers, so I went online this evening
Re: (313) OT: earbud recommendations?
Update to this week-long drama:
The Shure E4c-N earphones arrived in the mail. Though they are good
earphones, they don't really hold a candle to the Shure SE100s.
The Shure E4c-N has much more noticeable bass, but the mids and highs
aren't as crisp and clear as the SE100s. Feeling disappointed and
thwarted, I decided to return the E4C-Ns and buy the SE100s once again.
This time, I experimented with the different earpads for the SE100 and
found the right one for my ear. The increase in bass and overall
richness was immediate. The bass now is very clear and I'm very
surprised that these earphones are able to produce some of the really
low bass in certain dubstep or techno tracks.
So my final assessment is that the Sennheiser CX300s and the Shure E4C-N
are pretty similar in quality, though the CX300s were a little less
expensive. Either of them would be a very good replacement for the Sony
MDR-EX71SL earphones.
However, the SE100s win the prize for clarity and richness!!! It is
really worth paying the extra money for such a marked improvement in the
sound quality!! Making the effort to try the different earpads will pay
off when you find the ones that fit your ears in just the right way.
{}0+|
darnistle wrote:
Funny that this topic should come up at this time. My favorite Sony
MDR-EX71SL earbuds developed a short in the cord last week, so it was
time to buy another pair. The last set lasted for more than two years,
which is really good considering that I use them daily for hours at a
time and am not as careful with them as I should be.
This time, I decided to try some other brands and took the plunge and
bought the Shure SE100s from a store in town. At $100 it was expensive,
but I was curious to see if there was any significant increase in sound
quality.
The clarity and imaging were astounding!! Truly!! Listening to tracks
I was well familiar with was like hearing them anew: all sorts of
nuances I'd never heard before were suddenly very clear. The earphones
also did an excellent job of blocking outside sounds. I felt like I was
in a wonderfully exquisite aural cocoon.
My only complaint about them was the lack of bass, even though I tried
pushing the earpads further in my ear. It helped somewhat, but not as
much as I would have expected. I thought to put on one of the alternate
earpads to ensure a better fit, but had trouble getting the pads off. I
didn't want to risk ripping the rubber cover since I wasn't sure if I'd
keep the earphones. I never got to experiment to see if using different
earpads would help with the bass problem.
I convinced myself to return the earphones to the store because of the
bass issue, but the sheer clarity of the sound haunted me for days after.
Instead, I bought a pair of Sennheiser CX300s, which sounded just as
good as my old Sonys. They aren't really sound isolating, but they
deliver a good, even sound. No complaints at all. Problem is that
those Shure earphones were SO good, I couldn't deny the massive
difference in quality.
Now that my ears got a taste of the really good stuff, they weren't
havin' the Sennheisers, so I went online this evening and finally
decided to buy the Shure E4c-N earphones today on Amazon.com ($89!!!),
since they got even better reviews than the ones I tried a few days ago!
Assuming the E4C-N is as good as I hope it'll be, I'll probably keep the
Sennheiser earphones as a standby in case something happens to the Shures.
{}0+|
Frank Glazer wrote:
I'm in the market for some new earbuds for ipod listening on the
train. It's been about a year since this subject was last mentioned
on list, I checked the archives but thought an update wouldn't hurt.
I want something very loud with strong, clear defined bass response.
They need to block a significant amount of outside sound so that i
don't have to hear chatter or rail noise. So what's everybody using
for earbuds these days? I'm considering one of the following:
http://www.amazon.com/Shure-E2c-n-Sound-Isolating-Earphones/dp/B000E5GKW8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221435680sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/V-MODA-Vibe-Earbuds-Gunmetal-Black/dp/B000V5L5MG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221436093sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-ER4S-Reference-Earphones/dp/B000300Y9O/ref=wl_it_dp?ie=UTF8coliid=I3TBZ27N3IMN3Ocolid=2ZPLTMQTI9YUX
http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-Portable-Earphones-Black/dp/B000XPG2QI/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221434596sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-IE-10-Professional-Reference-Monitors/dp/B000JNNNBQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=musical-instrumentsqid=1221436137sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Philips-SHE9850-Headphones-Advanced-Acoustics/dp/B00176TEGM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221435109sr=1-1
or your recommendation under $175
Thanks in advance!
(313) OT: earbud recommendations?
Hello, I use the Shure ES210 and hve been liking those. They don't seem to be producing the e2c or e3c anymore. You'll probably be able to find them much cheaper else ware. http://store.shure.com/store/shure/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/productID.105181400 Cheers, -b -- http://www.mummey.net
Re: (313) OT: earbud recommendations?
Funny that this topic should come up at this time. My favorite Sony
MDR-EX71SL earbuds developed a short in the cord last week, so it was
time to buy another pair. The last set lasted for more than two years,
which is really good considering that I use them daily for hours at a
time and am not as careful with them as I should be.
This time, I decided to try some other brands and took the plunge and
bought the Shure SE100s from a store in town. At $100 it was expensive,
but I was curious to see if there was any significant increase in sound
quality.
The clarity and imaging were astounding!! Truly!! Listening to tracks
I was well familiar with was like hearing them anew: all sorts of
nuances I'd never heard before were suddenly very clear. The earphones
also did an excellent job of blocking outside sounds. I felt like I was
in a wonderfully exquisite aural cocoon.
My only complaint about them was the lack of bass, even though I tried
pushing the earpads further in my ear. It helped somewhat, but not as
much as I would have expected. I thought to put on one of the alternate
earpads to ensure a better fit, but had trouble getting the pads off. I
didn't want to risk ripping the rubber cover since I wasn't sure if I'd
keep the earphones. I never got to experiment to see if using different
earpads would help with the bass problem.
I convinced myself to return the earphones to the store because of the
bass issue, but the sheer clarity of the sound haunted me for days after.
Instead, I bought a pair of Sennheiser CX300s, which sounded just as
good as my old Sonys. They aren't really sound isolating, but they
deliver a good, even sound. No complaints at all. Problem is that
those Shure earphones were SO good, I couldn't deny the massive
difference in quality.
Now that my ears got a taste of the really good stuff, they weren't
havin' the Sennheisers, so I went online this evening and finally
decided to buy the Shure E4c-N earphones today on Amazon.com ($89!!!),
since they got even better reviews than the ones I tried a few days ago!
Assuming the E4C-N is as good as I hope it'll be, I'll probably keep the
Sennheiser earphones as a standby in case something happens to the Shures.
{}0+|
Frank Glazer wrote:
I'm in the market for some new earbuds for ipod listening on the
train. It's been about a year since this subject was last mentioned
on list, I checked the archives but thought an update wouldn't hurt.
I want something very loud with strong, clear defined bass response.
They need to block a significant amount of outside sound so that i
don't have to hear chatter or rail noise. So what's everybody using
for earbuds these days? I'm considering one of the following:
http://www.amazon.com/Shure-E2c-n-Sound-Isolating-Earphones/dp/B000E5GKW8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221435680sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/V-MODA-Vibe-Earbuds-Gunmetal-Black/dp/B000V5L5MG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221436093sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-ER4S-Reference-Earphones/dp/B000300Y9O/ref=wl_it_dp?ie=UTF8coliid=I3TBZ27N3IMN3Ocolid=2ZPLTMQTI9YUX
http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-Portable-Earphones-Black/dp/B000XPG2QI/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221434596sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-IE-10-Professional-Reference-Monitors/dp/B000JNNNBQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=musical-instrumentsqid=1221436137sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Philips-SHE9850-Headphones-Advanced-Acoustics/dp/B00176TEGM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221435109sr=1-1
or your recommendation under $175
Thanks in advance!
Re: (313) OT: earbud recommendations?
Err the Koss earbuds: http://www.amazon.com/Koss-SPARKPLUG-Stereo-Ear-Plugs/dp/B00081A2DQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221442341sr=1-1 On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 8:31 PM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tried earbuds, and the ones that were the best balance between price, sound, and comfort for me were the dirt cheap Koss:
Re: (313) OT: earbud recommendations?
I've tried earbuds, and the ones that were the best balance between price, sound, and comfort for me were the dirt cheap Koss: But earbuds in general bug me -- I haven't found any that were comfortable or held an acoustically valid seal in my ear canals, so my vote goes to these: http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-202-Headphones/dp/B65BP9/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221441987sr=8-1 They're very light, only cost $25, and do a surprisingly good job cutting ambient noise. And they sound pretty good to me. I've spent too much on expensive headphones that have gotten broken or stolen, so if it leaves my house it has to be basically disposable. The HD202s have lasted 6 months riding around in my backpack and still look new, despite being light, plastic, and cheap looking. I'm done crying over Grado SR80s when I lose the earmuff and the plug goes wonky. TP told me that he DJ's with a telephone because they work, they're cheap, and no one wants to steal them.
(313) OT: earbud recommendations?
I'm in the market for some new earbuds for ipod listening on the train. It's been about a year since this subject was last mentioned on list, I checked the archives but thought an update wouldn't hurt. I want something very loud with strong, clear defined bass response. They need to block a significant amount of outside sound so that i don't have to hear chatter or rail noise. So what's everybody using for earbuds these days? I'm considering one of the following: http://www.amazon.com/Shure-E2c-n-Sound-Isolating-Earphones/dp/B000E5GKW8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221435680sr=1-1 http://www.amazon.com/V-MODA-Vibe-Earbuds-Gunmetal-Black/dp/B000V5L5MG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221436093sr=1-1 http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-ER4S-Reference-Earphones/dp/B000300Y9O/ref=wl_it_dp?ie=UTF8coliid=I3TBZ27N3IMN3Ocolid=2ZPLTMQTI9YUX http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-Portable-Earphones-Black/dp/B000XPG2QI/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221434596sr=8-1 http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-IE-10-Professional-Reference-Monitors/dp/B000JNNNBQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=musical-instrumentsqid=1221436137sr=1-1 http://www.amazon.com/Philips-SHE9850-Headphones-Advanced-Acoustics/dp/B00176TEGM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1221435109sr=1-1 or your recommendation under $175 Thanks in advance! -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
(313) OT: My son Sean in Dave Stewart (Eurhythmics) Obama video
Hee, bad admin, OT post http://chaircrusher.livejournal.com/350765.html -- my live journal post about it... BTW 313-ers hit me back private if you're on Livejournal. It's just like blogging, only lamer!
Re: (313) OT: Burial, revealed.....
the anticipation is better than the arrival of the moment itself, because its perfection exists only within your mind and has not yet been sullied by reality. therefore, i would like to state on record that i only like artists who haven't actually released any music yet. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:43 AM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't really think it's here nor there. I'm a fan of the music, and getting too caught up in the 'legend' gets in the way, which from his blog post, was precisely why he gave it up. Drexciya's identity was kept under wraps for two reasons -- the people that knew were asked to keep quiet and did, and because Drexciya were famous to at most a couple thousand people world wide - whatever prominence they achieved, they achieved it inside the dance music scene, with a penumbra of renown amongst the chinstrokers who read The Wire.. Thanks to Pitchfork et al, Burial is a pop star to a load of kids who don't know two-step from happy hardcore. Not necessarily a bad thing, but like rich Americans appropriating indigenous music from around the world to make a buck, any time something breaks out to a larger audience, it loses its context, and becomes devalued artistically even as its value as a commodity increases. Plus, blowing up is a two-edged sword. Being the flavor of the month means next month you won't be. While it's a good thing when artists can make a living from their art, once they become ubiquitous they have to deal with living in a hall of mirrors -- their detractors, their imitators, their record labels demands of duplicating past success. When a bazillion people have glommed onto your art as something they regard as 'theirs' your own worst competition is what you did yourself a few years back. It's not any big prognostication to say that no matter what he actually release next, some people will say he's fallen off. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's a bummer that his anonymity became an issue - wouldn't have been that big of a deal back in '96 when half the techno producers were in the shadows MEK 1-11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 02:44:01 PM: http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php? option=com_contenttask=viewid=824Itemid=26 ...or is it (and do you care anyway)? -- Play more things that make me dance around and less things that make me sit and look miserable in a plastic chair - Brian Eno Blind faith in bad leadership is not Patriotism.
Re: (313) OT: Burial, revealed.....
Brillian!! Nice Statement Mark!! I personally have a favorite producer named Waj, based out of the Northwest of UK... most brilliant producer I've ever heard... never released... or there's Donnie James based out of Detroit... also never released, but made thousands of tracks and very very talented... oops... I guess my saying their names puts them into the stratosphere... maybe I shouldn't have said anything... On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 2:36 PM, [mark ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the anticipation is better than the arrival of the moment itself, because its perfection exists only within your mind and has not yet been sullied by reality. therefore, i would like to state on record that i only like artists who haven't actually released any music yet. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:43 AM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't really think it's here nor there. I'm a fan of the music, and getting too caught up in the 'legend' gets in the way, which from his blog post, was precisely why he gave it up. Drexciya's identity was kept under wraps for two reasons -- the people that knew were asked to keep quiet and did, and because Drexciya were famous to at most a couple thousand people world wide - whatever prominence they achieved, they achieved it inside the dance music scene, with a penumbra of renown amongst the chinstrokers who read The Wire.. Thanks to Pitchfork et al, Burial is a pop star to a load of kids who don't know two-step from happy hardcore. Not necessarily a bad thing, but like rich Americans appropriating indigenous music from around the world to make a buck, any time something breaks out to a larger audience, it loses its context, and becomes devalued artistically even as its value as a commodity increases. Plus, blowing up is a two-edged sword. Being the flavor of the month means next month you won't be. While it's a good thing when artists can make a living from their art, once they become ubiquitous they have to deal with living in a hall of mirrors -- their detractors, their imitators, their record labels demands of duplicating past success. When a bazillion people have glommed onto your art as something they regard as 'theirs' your own worst competition is what you did yourself a few years back. It's not any big prognostication to say that no matter what he actually release next, some people will say he's fallen off. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's a bummer that his anonymity became an issue - wouldn't have been that big of a deal back in '96 when half the techno producers were in the shadows MEK 1-11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 02:44:01 PM: http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php? option=com_contenttask=viewid=824Itemid=26 ...or is it (and do you care anyway)? -- Play more things that make me dance around and less things that make me sit and look miserable in a plastic chair - Brian Eno Blind faith in bad leadership is not Patriotism.
Re: (313) OT: Burial, revealed.....
Is Donnie James the hip hop guy who samples No UFOs? If so, he's pretty damn good- Mike and the guys dropped off a CD at Rubadub when they were over in July and we often get asked what it is when we're playing it in the shop. I definitely have a nostalgia for the days before I knew what every record was before I'd even heard it- it was defintely more fun not knowing all the details. Jason 2008/8/13 UI Design [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Brillian!! Nice Statement Mark!! I personally have a favorite producer named Waj, based out of the Northwest of UK... most brilliant producer I've ever heard... never released... or there's Donnie James based out of Detroit... also never released, but made thousands of tracks and very very talented... oops... I guess my saying their names puts them into the stratosphere... maybe I shouldn't have said anything... On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 2:36 PM, [mark ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the anticipation is better than the arrival of the moment itself, because its perfection exists only within your mind and has not yet been sullied by reality. therefore, i would like to state on record that i only like artists who haven't actually released any music yet. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:43 AM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't really think it's here nor there. I'm a fan of the music, and getting too caught up in the 'legend' gets in the way, which from his blog post, was precisely why he gave it up. Drexciya's identity was kept under wraps for two reasons -- the people that knew were asked to keep quiet and did, and because Drexciya were famous to at most a couple thousand people world wide - whatever prominence they achieved, they achieved it inside the dance music scene, with a penumbra of renown amongst the chinstrokers who read The Wire.. Thanks to Pitchfork et al, Burial is a pop star to a load of kids who don't know two-step from happy hardcore. Not necessarily a bad thing, but like rich Americans appropriating indigenous music from around the world to make a buck, any time something breaks out to a larger audience, it loses its context, and becomes devalued artistically even as its value as a commodity increases. Plus, blowing up is a two-edged sword. Being the flavor of the month means next month you won't be. While it's a good thing when artists can make a living from their art, once they become ubiquitous they have to deal with living in a hall of mirrors -- their detractors, their imitators, their record labels demands of duplicating past success. When a bazillion people have glommed onto your art as something they regard as 'theirs' your own worst competition is what you did yourself a few years back. It's not any big prognostication to say that no matter what he actually release next, some people will say he's fallen off. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's a bummer that his anonymity became an issue - wouldn't have been that big of a deal back in '96 when half the techno producers were in the shadows MEK 1-11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 02:44:01 PM: http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php? option=com_contenttask=viewid=824Itemid=26 ...or is it (and do you care anyway)? -- Play more things that make me dance around and less things that make me sit and look miserable in a plastic chair - Brian Eno Blind faith in bad leadership is not Patriotism.
Re: (313) OT: Burial, revealed.....
That sounds akin to something a dying, egregious philosopher on DMT would spout. Original Message - From: [mark ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 1-11 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:36 PM Subject: Re: (313) OT: Burial, revealed. the anticipation is better than the arrival of the moment itself, because its perfection exists only within your mind and has not yet been sullied by reality. therefore, i would like to state on record that i only like artists who haven't actually released any music yet. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:43 AM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't really think it's here nor there. I'm a fan of the music, and getting too caught up in the 'legend' gets in the way, which from his blog post, was precisely why he gave it up. Drexciya's identity was kept under wraps for two reasons -- the people that knew were asked to keep quiet and did, and because Drexciya were famous to at most a couple thousand people world wide - whatever prominence they achieved, they achieved it inside the dance music scene, with a penumbra of renown amongst the chinstrokers who read The Wire.. Thanks to Pitchfork et al, Burial is a pop star to a load of kids who don't know two-step from happy hardcore. Not necessarily a bad thing, but like rich Americans appropriating indigenous music from around the world to make a buck, any time something breaks out to a larger audience, it loses its context, and becomes devalued artistically even as its value as a commodity increases. Plus, blowing up is a two-edged sword. Being the flavor of the month means next month you won't be. While it's a good thing when artists can make a living from their art, once they become ubiquitous they have to deal with living in a hall of mirrors -- their detractors, their imitators, their record labels demands of duplicating past success. When a bazillion people have glommed onto your art as something they regard as 'theirs' your own worst competition is what you did yourself a few years back. It's not any big prognostication to say that no matter what he actually release next, some people will say he's fallen off. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's a bummer that his anonymity became an issue - wouldn't have been that big of a deal back in '96 when half the techno producers were in the shadows MEK 1-11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 02:44:01 PM: http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php? option=com_contenttask=viewid=824Itemid=26 ...or is it (and do you care anyway)? -- Play more things that make me dance around and less things that make me sit and look miserable in a plastic chair - Brian Eno Blind faith in bad leadership is not Patriotism.
Re: (313) OT: Burial, revealed.....
Donnie James does all genres, so its very possible he did some hip-hop. He's been talking to Mike and them about putting out his first release, but its a slow process by his own personal design. He played a sampling of his tunes for me one day and every track was a different genre. All very very good. I'll left a message for Donnie to ask if that was his. I'll keep you posted as soon as I know. On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 3:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Donnie James the hip hop guy who samples No UFOs? If so, he's pretty damn good- Mike and the guys dropped off a CD at Rubadub when they were over in July and we often get asked what it is when we're playing it in the shop. I definitely have a nostalgia for the days before I knew what every record was before I'd even heard it- it was defintely more fun not knowing all the details. Jason 2008/8/13 UI Design [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Brillian!! Nice Statement Mark!! I personally have a favorite producer named Waj, based out of the Northwest of UK... most brilliant producer I've ever heard... never released... or there's Donnie James based out of Detroit... also never released, but made thousands of tracks and very very talented... oops... I guess my saying their names puts them into the stratosphere... maybe I shouldn't have said anything... On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 2:36 PM, [mark ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the anticipation is better than the arrival of the moment itself, because its perfection exists only within your mind and has not yet been sullied by reality. therefore, i would like to state on record that i only like artists who haven't actually released any music yet. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:43 AM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't really think it's here nor there. I'm a fan of the music, and getting too caught up in the 'legend' gets in the way, which from his blog post, was precisely why he gave it up. Drexciya's identity was kept under wraps for two reasons -- the people that knew were asked to keep quiet and did, and because Drexciya were famous to at most a couple thousand people world wide - whatever prominence they achieved, they achieved it inside the dance music scene, with a penumbra of renown amongst the chinstrokers who read The Wire.. Thanks to Pitchfork et al, Burial is a pop star to a load of kids who don't know two-step from happy hardcore. Not necessarily a bad thing, but like rich Americans appropriating indigenous music from around the world to make a buck, any time something breaks out to a larger audience, it loses its context, and becomes devalued artistically even as its value as a commodity increases. Plus, blowing up is a two-edged sword. Being the flavor of the month means next month you won't be. While it's a good thing when artists can make a living from their art, once they become ubiquitous they have to deal with living in a hall of mirrors -- their detractors, their imitators, their record labels demands of duplicating past success. When a bazillion people have glommed onto your art as something they regard as 'theirs' your own worst competition is what you did yourself a few years back. It's not any big prognostication to say that no matter what he actually release next, some people will say he's fallen off. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's a bummer that his anonymity became an issue - wouldn't have been that big of a deal back in '96 when half the techno producers were in the shadows MEK 1-11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 02:44:01 PM: http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php? option=com_contenttask=viewid=824Itemid=26 ...or is it (and do you care anyway)? -- Play more things that make me dance around and less things that make me sit and look miserable in a plastic chair - Brian Eno Blind faith in bad leadership is not Patriotism.
RE: (313) OT Isaac Hayes RIP
*I* laughed. However, it's still a sad loss - not least for his family and friends who no doubt were expecting him to be around for longer than just 65. Whatever setting it was. -Original Message- From: Paul Thurston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 5:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) OT Isaac Hayes RIP I wonder what setting he had the treadmill on? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:24 AM To: Dan Bean Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT Isaac Hayes RIP http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1592489/20080810/hayes_isaac.jhtml :-( RIP Black Moses MEK Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/10/2008 03:59:06 PM: Sad news. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1603 - Release Date: 8/10/2008 6:13 PM
(313) OT Isaac Hayes RIP
Sad news.
Re: (313) OT Isaac Hayes RIP
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1592489/20080810/hayes_isaac.jhtml :-( RIP Black Moses MEK Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/10/2008 03:59:06 PM: Sad news.
RE: (313) OT Isaac Hayes RIP
I wonder what setting he had the treadmill on? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:24 AM To: Dan Bean Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) OT Isaac Hayes RIP http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1592489/20080810/hayes_isaac.jhtml :-( RIP Black Moses MEK Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/10/2008 03:59:06 PM: Sad news. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.0/1603 - Release Date: 8/10/2008 6:13 PM
Re: (313) OT: Burial, revealed.....
I don't really think it's here nor there. I'm a fan of the music, and getting too caught up in the 'legend' gets in the way, which from his blog post, was precisely why he gave it up. Drexciya's identity was kept under wraps for two reasons -- the people that knew were asked to keep quiet and did, and because Drexciya were famous to at most a couple thousand people world wide - whatever prominence they achieved, they achieved it inside the dance music scene, with a penumbra of renown amongst the chinstrokers who read The Wire.. Thanks to Pitchfork et al, Burial is a pop star to a load of kids who don't know two-step from happy hardcore. Not necessarily a bad thing, but like rich Americans appropriating indigenous music from around the world to make a buck, any time something breaks out to a larger audience, it loses its context, and becomes devalued artistically even as its value as a commodity increases. Plus, blowing up is a two-edged sword. Being the flavor of the month means next month you won't be. While it's a good thing when artists can make a living from their art, once they become ubiquitous they have to deal with living in a hall of mirrors -- their detractors, their imitators, their record labels demands of duplicating past success. When a bazillion people have glommed onto your art as something they regard as 'theirs' your own worst competition is what you did yourself a few years back. It's not any big prognostication to say that no matter what he actually release next, some people will say he's fallen off. On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's a bummer that his anonymity became an issue - wouldn't have been that big of a deal back in '96 when half the techno producers were in the shadows MEK 1-11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 02:44:01 PM: http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php? option=com_contenttask=viewid=824Itemid=26 ...or is it (and do you care anyway)?
Re: (313) OT: Burial, revealed.....
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:43 AM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not any big prognostication to say that no matter what he actually release next, some people will say he's fallen off. Especially when people already said that about Untrue! -- matt kane's brain techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisusa.com aim - mkbatwerk
(313) OT: Burial, revealed.....
http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=824Itemid=26 ...or is it (and do you care anyway)?
Re: (313) OT: Burial, revealed.....
it's a bummer that his anonymity became an issue - wouldn't have been that big of a deal back in '96 when half the techno producers were in the shadows MEK 1-11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2008 02:44:01 PM: http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php? option=com_contenttask=viewid=824Itemid=26 ...or is it (and do you care anyway)?
(313) OT - e.s.t. Pianist Esbjorn Svensson Dies At 44
wow - I just found out about this a bit OT but I'm sure some of you on the list are into e.s.t. one of those young fresh jazz groups pushing things forward http://www.giantstep.net/news/817 e.s.t. Pianist Esbjorn Svensson Dies At 44 On Saturday June 14th, Esbjorn Svensson fell victim to a lethal diving accident outside of Vrmd, Sweden's archipelago near Stockholm. Svensson had been diving in a group at a landing stage and was later discovered at the bottom severely injured. The pianist and founder of e.s.t. (Esbjorn Svensson Trio) died at age 44. Renowned for bringing jazz to a young audience with influences as wide ranging as classical to funk, e.s.t.'s roots began to sprout in the 1980's, and eventually they released their debut album When Everyone Has Gone in 1993. The trio quickly rose to notoriety in the Swedish and Danish jazz communities. Esbjorn Svensson was awarded accolades, including Swedish Jazz musician of the Year (1996), Songwriter of the Year (1998), a Swedish Grammy for 1997's Winter in Venice, Trio of the Year by Jazzwise, the Hans Koller prize as European Artist of the Year and countless more. Musically, he was the light that lit the world because in what he did he was pushing boundaries, said Burkhard Hopper, EST's manager. His music inspired people in all corners of the world. http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/news.php?id=19464 RIP :_( MEK
RE: (313) OT? Metropolis
Thanks Matt. This is quite momentous for film buffs and should be for techno too ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Kane's Brain Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 11:26 PM To: list 313 Subject: (313) OT? Metropolis http://www.metafilter.com/73000/The-Head-the-Hands-and-the-Heart#comment A complete version of Metropolis has been discovered in Argentina. -- matt kane's brain techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisusa.com aim - mkbatwerk
(313) OT? Metropolis
http://www.metafilter.com/73000/The-Head-the-Hands-and-the-Heart#comment A complete version of Metropolis has been discovered in Argentina. -- matt kane's brain techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisusa.com aim - mkbatwerk
Re: (313) OT? Metropolis
that's fantastic! I wonder if Criterion is going to do the restoration/transfer? MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/02/2008 05:26:29 PM: http://www.metafilter.com/73000/The-Head-the-Hands-and-the-Heart#comment A complete version of Metropolis has been discovered in Argentina. -- matt kane's brain techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisusa.com aim - mkbatwerk
(313) OT - Buenos Aires
Sorry to come again with this, but there's anyone from Buenos Aires in this list? thanks Kw
