(313) Juan Atkins at U Street Music Hall in Washington, DC ( 10/5/13)
Just noticed this. Should be fun. http://www.ustreetmusichall.com/event/349343-juan-atkins-samo-sound-boy-washington/
Re: (313) Juan Atkins at U Street Music Hall in Washington, DC ( 10/5/13)
Good room, decent sound, but overrun with a bunch of drunken hipsters when I saw Stacey Pullen there this past February. Turns out it's on Soundcloud, one of the better gigs I've heard from him in recent times: https://soundcloud.com/uhalldc/stacey-pullen-live-at-u-street fh - Just noticed this. Should be fun. http://www.ustreetmusichall.com/event/349343-juan-atkins-samo-sound-boy-washington/
(313) Juan Atkins - Electric Jungle
Blackmarket Records going for the 'lost' / 'unreleased' tracks gambit. http://www.discogs.com/Juan-Atkins-Electric-Jungle-/release/4088314 At least one - 'Impulse' - has been released before though. It was out on the 'Infiniti Collection' on Tresor, in '96. In any case, they seem fine tracks to my ears, dated mostly by the obviously real-time nature of the audio quality; which of course is not an aesthetic fault. K
Re: (313) Juan Atkins Interview 2012
rare AND weird ;) it's a cool clip of Juan though, guiding us through the 3000 Building. Nice. 2012/7/16 Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com That's why I miss so many parties in SF, i'm one of those rare non-FB people it seems ;) On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote: that was last month, the link has been posted on fb already. 2012/7/16 Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com Thx for posting! On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Carlos Boix carlosb...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.dollopdollop.com/2012/06/29/juan-atkins-interview/ Looks like someone is bringing the boys to London town. -- Carlos Boix Larrey (0044) 797 904 44 54 carlosb...@gmail.com -- http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://vibedeck.com/w1b0/ | http://network.technobass.net/profile/w1b0 | http://twitter.com/w1b0 -- -- http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://vibedeck.com/w1b0/ | http://network.technobass.net/profile/w1b0 | http://twitter.com/w1b0 --
(313) Juan Atkins Interview 2012
http://www.dollopdollop.com/2012/06/29/juan-atkins-interview/ Looks like someone is bringing the boys to London town. -- Carlos Boix Larrey (0044) 797 904 44 54 carlosb...@gmail.com
Re: (313) Juan Atkins Interview 2012
Thx for posting! On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Carlos Boix carlosb...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.dollopdollop.com/2012/06/29/juan-atkins-interview/ Looks like someone is bringing the boys to London town. -- Carlos Boix Larrey (0044) 797 904 44 54 carlosb...@gmail.com
Re: (313) Juan Atkins Interview 2012
that was last month, the link has been posted on fb already. 2012/7/16 Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com Thx for posting! On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Carlos Boix carlosb...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.dollopdollop.com/2012/06/29/juan-atkins-interview/ Looks like someone is bringing the boys to London town. -- Carlos Boix Larrey (0044) 797 904 44 54 carlosb...@gmail.com -- http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://vibedeck.com/w1b0/ | http://network.technobass.net/profile/w1b0 | http://twitter.com/w1b0 --
Re: (313) Juan Atkins Interview 2012
That's why I miss so many parties in SF, i'm one of those rare non-FB people it seems ;) On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote: that was last month, the link has been posted on fb already. 2012/7/16 Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com Thx for posting! On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Carlos Boix carlosb...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.dollopdollop.com/2012/06/29/juan-atkins-interview/ Looks like someone is bringing the boys to London town. -- Carlos Boix Larrey (0044) 797 904 44 54 carlosb...@gmail.com -- http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://vibedeck.com/w1b0/ | http://network.technobass.net/profile/w1b0 | http://twitter.com/w1b0 --
(313) Juan Atkins on NPR
Good: They talked to Juan. Bad: They talked to Moby. As though he is an authority on anything beyond music licensing and vegan cupcakes. http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2012/04/13/150573065/kraftwerk-in-new-york-decades-of-influence-on-display It was gated noise, Atkins says, referring to the sounds Kraftwerk shaped with synthesizers. I heard those sounds and I'm like, 'Wow.' I love this quote because really who besides synth nerds and studio rats would know what 'gated noise' is?
(313) Juan Atkins interview
Hi all, So I've finally put up an actual entire interview on my blog. I interviewed Juan in Detroit back in January this year and it was awesome! http://schoolcraftwax.com/ Enjoy! I sure did. -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://schoolcraftwax.com/
(313) Juan Atkins interview
Continuing on Toyota Detroit techno rampage, here's their latest interview with Juan: http://vimeo.com/17771939 - Patrick.
(313) Juan Atkins - Dayshift
Heya all, Just saw this on the Twitter thing... Juan has a new track available for D/L on SoundCloud: http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/review/exclusive-download-of-the-week-juan-atkins-dayshift/ Apparently coming out with Terrence Dixon and Worthy(?). - P.
Re: (313) Juan Atkins - Dayshift
I like that. Reminded me to get my ticket for when he plays in Manchester soon... Robin... On 11 Feb 2011, at 16:57, Patrick Wacher wrote: Heya all, Just saw this on the Twitter thing... Juan has a new track available for D/L on SoundCloud: http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/review/exclusive-download-of-the-week-juan-atkins-dayshift/ Apparently coming out with Terrence Dixon and Worthy(?). - P.
Re: (313) Juan Atkins - Dayshift
Wow, this track is kinda bonkers! I like it... ~David On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Robin Pinning robin.pinn...@me.com wrote: I like that. Reminded me to get my ticket for when he plays in Manchester soon... Robin... On 11 Feb 2011, at 16:57, Patrick Wacher wrote: Heya all, Just saw this on the Twitter thing... Juan has a new track available for D/L on SoundCloud: http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/review/exclusive-download-of-the-week-juan-atkins-dayshift/ Apparently coming out with Terrence Dixon and Worthy(?). - P.
RE: (313) Juan Atkins photo
He really takes great photos. There's one of Ice-T on his site. It looks like it could be pencil. Either way it's pretty cool. -Original Message- From: Denise Dalphond [mailto:ddalp...@umail.iu.edu] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 3:34 PM To: web...@snet.net Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins photo The photo is by a photographer named Krijn van Noordwijk: http://www.krijnvannoordwijk.com/ He has a book of great photos called DJ. It's all portraits of DJs. A bunch of Detroit folks are in there including Theo Parrish and Rick Wilhite. I can't remember who all else is in there. I don't own it, a friend showed it to me. http://www.djthebook.com/ -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3071 - Release Date: 08/14/10 04:48:00
Re: (313) Juan Atkins photo
The photo is by a photographer named Krijn van Noordwijk: http://www.krijnvannoordwijk.com/ He has a book of great photos called DJ. It's all portraits of DJs. A bunch of Detroit folks are in there including Theo Parrish and Rick Wilhite. I can't remember who all else is in there. I don't own it, a friend showed it to me. http://www.djthebook.com/ -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
Re: (313) Juan Atkins photo
Ken, You have to ad atkins3.jpg to the URL that you click, as the URL was too long... Dave Odeluga, Ken wrote: Cheers Anton, the mix downloads fine, but clicking the link for the image throws up a '500' [Internal Server Error]. Ken -Original Message- From: AntonBanks.com [mailto:web...@snet.net] Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 12:52 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Juan Atkins photo I came across this photo of Juan Atkins. My compliments to whoever took this. I think it's a really striking image. http://www.digital-distortions.co.uk/bibzme/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/juan- atkins3.jpg BTW, it went along with this mix. http://soundcloud.com/wefearsilence/juan-atkins-we-fear-silence-mix/download
RE: (313) Juan Atkins photo
Ah that's what it was. Every now and then that issue catches me unawares. Anyway, someone else posted me a remade link for the pic, so I've seen it. It's evocative! Cheers, Ken -Original Message- From: DB [mailto:d...@renegaderhythms.com] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 6:23 PM To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins photo Ken, You have to ad atkins3.jpg to the URL that you click, as the URL was too long... Dave Odeluga, Ken wrote: Cheers Anton, the mix downloads fine, but clicking the link for the image throws up a '500' [Internal Server Error]. Ken -Original Message- From: AntonBanks.com [mailto:web...@snet.net] Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 12:52 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Juan Atkins photo I came across this photo of Juan Atkins. My compliments to whoever took this. I think it's a really striking image. http://www.digital-distortions.co.uk/bibzme/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/juan- atkins3.jpg BTW, it went along with this mix. http://soundcloud.com/wefearsilence/juan-atkins-we-fear-silence-mix/download
RE: (313) Juan Atkins photo
Cheers Anton, the mix downloads fine, but clicking the link for the image throws up a '500' [Internal Server Error]. Ken -Original Message- From: AntonBanks.com [mailto:web...@snet.net] Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 12:52 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Juan Atkins photo I came across this photo of Juan Atkins. My compliments to whoever took this. I think it's a really striking image. http://www.digital-distortions.co.uk/bibzme/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/juan- atkins3.jpg BTW, it went along with this mix. http://soundcloud.com/wefearsilence/juan-atkins-we-fear-silence-mix/download
RE: (313) Juan Atkins photo
Scrub that. Working ok now. Evocative photo! -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com] Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 11:42 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins photo Cheers Anton, the mix downloads fine, but clicking the link for the image throws up a '500' [Internal Server Error]. Ken -Original Message- From: AntonBanks.com [mailto:web...@snet.net] Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 12:52 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Juan Atkins photo I came across this photo of Juan Atkins. My compliments to whoever took this. I think it's a really striking image. http://www.digital-distortions.co.uk/bibzme/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/juan- atkins3.jpg BTW, it went along with this mix. http://soundcloud.com/wefearsilence/juan-atkins-we-fear-silence-mix/download
(313) Juan Atkins photo
I came across this photo of Juan Atkins. My compliments to whoever took this. I think it's a really striking image. http://www.digital-distortions.co.uk/bibzme/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/juan- atkins3.jpg BTW, it went along with this mix. http://soundcloud.com/wefearsilence/juan-atkins-we-fear-silence-mix/download
(313) Juan Atkins interview + new Model 500 track
http://www.clashmusic.com/feature/juan-atkins-interview ...and a free new Model 500 track http://www.clashmusic.com/sounds-of-the-summer
Re: (313) Juan Atkins interview + new Model 500 track
It's not too bad at all, I think it has some elements of his really classic tracks from back in the day, but i'm not falling off my chair quite yet. P. On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 1:57 PM, wojciech kawalekwojtek@gmail.com wrote: http://www.clashmusic.com/feature/juan-atkins-interview ...and a free new Model 500 track http://www.clashmusic.com/sounds-of-the-summer
(313) Juan Atkins Interview
Hi fellows, just thought I should share this with you. http://lostcitizen.net/blog/21 D
(313) Juan Atkins' Loft Party - Sunday 25 May 2008
the flyer http://www.scale.gs/client/metroplex/juanatkinspartyWEB.jpg this Sunday, 25 May 2008 Metroplex presents Juan Atkins' Loft Party featuring performances by Juan Atkins / DJ Metroplex http://www.myspace.com/68657561 Terrence Dixon / LIVE + DJ Metroplex, Reduction, YORE, Background http://www.myspace.com/terrencedixon Todd Sines as .xtrak / LIVE YORE, 7th City, Planet E, Peacefrog, Frankie http://www.myspace.com/toddsines Deepchord / LIVE Deepchord Records http://www.myspace.com/deepchord Titonton vs. Archetyp / tag team DJ Residual, 21/22, Black Nation, Theory, Planet E http://www.myspace.com/titonton http://www.myspace.com/archtyp 2605 John R. / Adelaide St. at Woodward 2 blocks from Coamerica Park 12 AM - UNTIL? $10 +odd -- Todd Sines, director + SCALE : http://www.scale.gs/ +1.646.330.4873 studio +1.646.258.5214 mobile aim/ichat/skype/gchat: toddsines 195 Chrystie St., #602A, NY, NY 10002 /// connecting the space between + within.
(313) Linkwood and Trusme (was Re: (313) Juan Atkins)
Spoke to Linkwood before the gig, he was sh*ting as he's not played a techno set out in a long time. How did it go?? He played well. Possibly better mixing than Trusme but played in a more pitched-up kinda way. Like a house dj playing techno, but I consider that to be a Detroit related style anyway. I enjoyed the night, even though many people didn't bother coming because Juan didn't show. Trusme has Rick Wade, Andres and Pepe Bradock playing in Manchester over the next couple of months too. Trusme also has a load of new records coming out soon. The latest hotness (Virbrations) is on those Gilles Peterson 12s that have just come out on Defected. Max if you have any info on what Linkwood is up to let us know. robin...
RE: (313) Linkwood and Trusme (was Re: (313) Juan Atkins)
Cool, thanks robin I'll let him know job well done:) Linkwood is releasing a split EP of House/Detroit with me in the near future, but I will keep that under wraps until I have dates. But we're not far off. He has a tune coming out soon on prime numbers. He is also working on the next firecracker and an LP (which he asked me not to talk about yet) Possibly some material working with Trusme too but no real details on that. Sorry to be a bit vague. I will say this though Linkwood under a previous pseudonym was called Pylot and he and I played a live-ish set at a public life 313list party back in 2001. This set is up on www.goneloko.co.uk Thanks Max www.myspace.com/mxmspace -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2008 08:44 To: Mxm Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Linkwood and Trusme (was Re: (313) Juan Atkins) Spoke to Linkwood before the gig, he was sh*ting as he's not played a techno set out in a long time. How did it go?? He played well. Possibly better mixing than Trusme but played in a more pitched-up kinda way. Like a house dj playing techno, but I consider that to be a Detroit related style anyway. I enjoyed the night, even though many people didn't bother coming because Juan didn't show. Trusme has Rick Wade, Andres and Pepe Bradock playing in Manchester over the next couple of months too. Trusme also has a load of new records coming out soon. The latest hotness (Virbrations) is on those Gilles Peterson 12s that have just come out on Defected. Max if you have any info on what Linkwood is up to let us know. robin...
FW: (313) Juan Atkins
Spoke to Linkwood before the gig, he was sh*ting as he's not played a techno set out in a long time. How did it go?? Wish I could have been there to support him. Max -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 January 2008 10:21 To: 313 Subject: (313) Juan Atkins Went to see Juan on Saturday in Manchester. Guess what - another no show. I don't know why, as I saw this coming, but I was disappointed. Luckily Trusme and Linkwood did a fine job of entertaining us but they must've taken a hit financially and reputation-wise (it was known from Friday night he wasn't around) and this is a bit rough on these kids as they are just starting out with this new night. robin...
RE: (313) Juan Atkins
I just hope they rebook him - I wasn't the only one who couldn't have attended because of the clash with the Chair, so hopefully if they do it'll get more numbers. Looking forward to Jamal Moss! -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 January 2008 10:21 Went to see Juan on Saturday in Manchester. Guess what - another no show. I don't know why, as I saw this coming, but I was disappointed. Luckily Trusme and Linkwood did a fine job of entertaining us but they must've taken a hit financially and reputation-wise (it was known from Friday night he wasn't around) and this is a bit rough on these kids as they are just starting out with this new night.
Re: (313) Juan Atkins
Yeah I heard he didn't appear at the last Spacebase either. I was going to go but blew it out at the last min ( then was glad that I did.) The good news on that front is that Derrick May is scheduled to play the next one, 22nd Feb. Kind regards, Gary Entertainment UK Ltd Auriol Drive | Greenford Park | Greenford | UB6 0DS x: 2946 | t: +44 (0)20 8833 2946 robin [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313 313@hyperreal.org org cc: Subject: (313) Juan Atkins 28/01/08 10:21 Went to see Juan on Saturday in Manchester. Guess what - another no show. I don't know why, as I saw this coming, but I was disappointed. Luckily Trusme and Linkwood did a fine job of entertaining us but they must've taken a hit financially and reputation-wise (it was known from Friday night he wasn't around) and this is a bit rough on these kids as they are just starting out with this new night. robin...
(313) Juan Atkins
Went to see Juan on Saturday in Manchester. Guess what - another no show. I don't know why, as I saw this coming, but I was disappointed. Luckily Trusme and Linkwood did a fine job of entertaining us but they must've taken a hit financially and reputation-wise (it was known from Friday night he wasn't around) and this is a bit rough on these kids as they are just starting out with this new night. robin...
Re: (313) Juan Atkins
Unless I had to burn some money I wouldn't book Juan in a million years. robin... On 28 Jan 2008, at 10:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just hope they rebook him - I wasn't the only one who couldn't have attended because of the clash with the Chair, so hopefully if they do it'll get more numbers. Looking forward to Jamal Moss
(313) juan atkins (ny) - tonight review
So I go to the a show quietly advertised as having Juan Atkins play at '200 Orchard' on the Lower East Side of Manhattan. Three semi-brooklyn looking hipster guys, one of whom wouldn't stop playing with his hair, mixing old (old) Aphex Twin with proto trance disco tech-house (beat matching anyone?), to a poor remix of an 808 State track, to what I gather was yet another bad remix (get a trend here?) of Berlin Sunrise. Apparently Juan Atkins will not play (Just got home). As much as I do player hate, and as much as I want to extend a hand to the guys who put this together (Lauren Flax of some sort of Chicago association?), overall, despite all my bickering, in all honesty, it just would've been nice to have a night of real techno, play by people who really know how to play it. Not minimal, not glitchy, not let-reaktor-go-haywire-andpress-record-and-let-a-wonky-kick-and-snappy-snare/clap drawl on on random arpeggio. Just straight up techno. Adios Detroit. (Cautiously removing foot from mouth) -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy
yep - that's correct. here's the publishing info on it LOSE CONTROL (Legal Title) BMI Work #7580774 Songwriter/Composer Current Affiliation CAE/IPI # ATKINS JUAN OWEN BMI 447768507 DAVIS RICHARD DELANO BMI 130424032 ELLIOTT MELISSA A ASCAP 335960842 FREEMAN ISAAC III BMI 347992315 HUDSON CURTIS LEE BMI 79307651 Publishers BIG COLORADO MUSIC BMI 475656807 DEEP SPACE MUSIC BMI 120139525 WARNER-TAMERLANE PUBLISHING CO BMI 185314175 damn, that would be one expensive track to license five writers and three publishers! Juan still owns publishing on it - at least part of it I might be wrong but I think Fantasy records set up Deep Space Music (publishing) with Juan Atkin Richard Davis to handle the publishing for Cybotron's Clear Fantasy, of course, gets a cut of any earnings. MEK skkatter [EMAIL PROTECTED] omTo 313@hyperreal.org 01/16/06 03:25 AM cc Subject Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Even if he sold the publishing rights he'd still be getting money from the songwriting rights. (royalties are usually split 50% between the owner of the publishing rights and the songwriter, if the publishing rights are owned by somebody else that is, correct me if I'm wrong!) -skkatter On 12/01/06, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been told that he's not getting any publishing royalties for it as he doesn't own the publishing, was sold long ago - I hope I'm wrong! -- http://www.skkatter.net
Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy
Even if he sold the publishing rights he'd still be getting money from the songwriting rights. (royalties are usually split 50% between the owner of the publishing rights and the songwriter, if the publishing rights are owned by somebody else that is, correct me if I'm wrong!) -skkatter On 12/01/06, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been told that he's not getting any publishing royalties for it as he doesn't own the publishing, was sold long ago - I hope I'm wrong! -- http://www.skkatter.net
Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy
I'm surprised at how much other artists give props and not always the artists you think - Annie was giving big props to Derrick May and Underground Resistance in Aus interviews on her recent tour. It's up to them to carry the legacy and educate new punters on the heritage of this music. On 13/01/2006, at 11:39 PM, fabrice Lig wrote: totaly agree Emiliano, you are an example of hows music is sometimes working... fabrice The uneducated masses don't know electro from hip-hop from Jazz and probably never will. What would be great is if he wins he could go up and blast the audience with a quick dose of knowledge like The music Industry sucks and you are all sheep!!!. The uneducated masses, definitly no... But I started with Public Enemy, then go back to Afrika Bambaataa, and to electro, and I started to understand more about Kraftwerk. Then I began to love hip-hop, that became hip-house for a (fortunatly) short time, and (guess what) this songs boosted my interest for house and Chicago... 300 miles away from Chicago was Detroit and so I started to listen to some techno... And now, 18 years later (rgh), I'm signed to a 313 mailing list, tryin' to learn more. So, probably Juan Atkin will never be recognized by the masses, but maybe an award would give him some more fame, more bucks and (maybe) 200 more kids will begin to be more interested in techno... ...And we'll have 200 more people who can listen to us when we talk about how music industry's s fake ;) Japo
RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy
-Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 23:18 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy I think it's a bit like the Oscars. You have to put it in perspective. Do the best films get nominated, the finest actors always? It's a good thing but is not always representative. Denzil should have won an Oscar years ago...( Though I will be happy if Heath Ledger gets something for Brokeback Mountain. ;)) The Grammy's are so off kilter most of the time it's hard to take some of results seriously but it would be nice for Juan, though obviously not what he fully deserves... Most of the dance acknowledged by the Grammys is so wack (Thunderpuss!) no one outside the US corporate arena could take it seriously. Ultimately it's a nice recognition and nothing more. If it happens, excellent, but to hope for an equivalent to a life time achievement award is just silly. Many of the most innovative artists and thinkers have only been appreciated posthumously or in their dieing days. Not to say we shouldn't try to lobby for their recognition, but to hope that Juan Atkins will be recognised as something more than the guy who was sampled in Sir Mix-A-Lot and Missy Elliot in the major music industry's consciousness is hoping a bit much IMO. Why don't we try to thwart Clear Channel first, and then hope for 'Clear'. That said, if you are one of the few who can vote, do it! Oh, and what's up with June Atkinson's comments on this: http://www.discogs.com/release/162067 Prolly nothing to do with Juan, but silly none the less. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.14/222 - Release Date: 05/01/2006
RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy
Ken i wasn't being churlish. i consider the world of commercial music and awards nights as one big giant pile of wombat poop. i sort of thought that on this matter i was vaguely on the same wavelength as others on this list, underground resistance and others interested in independent/underground dance music. the time for techno to get the recognition and dues it deserves was 1989 and it did - millions around the world danced their asses off to detroit music. thousands had their lives changed and started buying the records, djing, making the stuff, starting internet boards, wearing UR t-shirts and making pilgrimages to detroit and putting on underground parties. how namy people turn up each year for the demf (or whatever it''s called)? do you think techno or juan is getting their dues when a fake industry award show mentions his name 20 years after the fact. an industry that ignores you unless it wants to steal your songs (knights of the jaguar) and we're still begging for their acceptance and recognition. james www.jbucknell.com Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] ones.com To Fred Heutte 01/12/06 09:16 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Jeez James, don't be so churlish! Here I am in the belly of the beast, and so are you! Credit where it's due, I say. Ken -Original Message- From: Fred Heutte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 08:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy It's about standing up for a friend and mentor, home town, and way of doing things, it seems to me. And a moment of recognition that not everything is under the control of the programmers, even at the heart of their self-congratulatory, corrupt, musically reactionary mess of an industry. I'm actually thrilled by this. He has certainly had his ups and downs, and sure Missy is pop, but the whole point is that this happened because of techno, and it's about damn time Juan got some serious cred. fh -- mail forwarded, original message follows -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ok] Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:38:01 +1000 i would have never imagined that it was so important to mad mike that juan atkins to be aknowledged by the commercial record industry. does that mean underground resistance has now become overground assistance? james www.jbucknell.com ForwardSourceID:NT00024A7E
Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy
The uneducated masses don't know electro from hip-hop from Jazz and probably never will. What would be great is if he wins he could go up and blast the audience with a quick dose of knowledge like The music Industry sucks and you are all sheep!!!. The uneducated masses, definitly no... But I started with Public Enemy, then go back to Afrika Bambaataa, and to electro, and I started to understand more about Kraftwerk. Then I began to love hip-hop, that became hip-house for a (fortunatly) short time, and (guess what) this songs boosted my interest for house and Chicago... 300 miles away from Chicago was Detroit and so I started to listen to some techno... And now, 18 years later (rgh), I'm signed to a 313 mailing list, tryin' to learn more. So, probably Juan Atkin will never be recognized by the masses, but maybe an award would give him some more fame, more bucks and (maybe) 200 more kids will begin to be more interested in techno... ...And we'll have 200 more people who can listen to us when we talk about how music industry's s fake ;) Japo
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totaly agree Emiliano, you are an example of hows music is sometimes working... fabrice The uneducated masses don't know electro from hip-hop from Jazz and probably never will. What would be great is if he wins he could go up and blast the audience with a quick dose of knowledge like The music Industry sucks and you are all sheep!!!. The uneducated masses, definitly no... But I started with Public Enemy, then go back to Afrika Bambaataa, and to electro, and I started to understand more about Kraftwerk. Then I began to love hip-hop, that became hip-house for a (fortunatly) short time, and (guess what) this songs boosted my interest for house and Chicago... 300 miles away from Chicago was Detroit and so I started to listen to some techno... And now, 18 years later (rgh), I'm signed to a 313 mailing list, tryin' to learn more. So, probably Juan Atkin will never be recognized by the masses, but maybe an award would give him some more fame, more bucks and (maybe) 200 more kids will begin to be more interested in techno... ...And we'll have 200 more people who can listen to us when we talk about how music industry's s fake ;) Japo
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Naturally we may never know for sure. I heard Juan Atkins eventually bought back all the Electro Funk / Deep Space rights he sold in the late 90s. I would! :-) -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 23:29 To: Stewart Caig Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy I have been told that he's not getting any publishing royalties for it as he doesn't own the publishing, was sold long ago - I hope I'm wrong!
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I heard an interview with Professor X, who was making electro in LA around the same time as cybotron and who is friends with juan atkins, and he said when Missy Elliot was asked what song she sampled she mistakenly said Planet Rock. Anyone else heard this? At 01:04 PM 1/11/2006, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: Herre is the link to the official website... 48th grammy awards 8th february 8pm et/pt CBS http://www.grammy.com/awards/grammy/48Awards.aspx On 11-jan-2006, at 21:54, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: --begin transmission Troops your services are required. Juan Atkins has been nominated as a writer as part of the song Losing Control by: Missy Elliot. Tell everybody you know that owes they're @ss to Juan Atkins to vote for Missy Elliot's Losing Control for best rap single. Lets show these motherf*ckaz the power of what they cannot see... Mad Mike 040 - UR - -end transmission--- http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/
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i would have never imagined that it was so important to mad mike that juan atkins to be aknowledged by the commercial record industry. does that mean underground resistance has now become overground assistance? james www.jbucknell.com James Hurlbut [EMAIL PROTECTED] oronto.ca To 313@hyperreal.org 01/12/06 04:12 PM cc Subject Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy On 11-jan-2006, at 21:54, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: --begin transmission Troops your services are required. Juan Atkins has been nominated as a writer as part of the song Losing Control by: Missy Elliot. Tell everybody you know that owes they're @ss to Juan Atkins to vote for Missy Elliot's Losing Control for best rap single. Lets show these motherf*ckaz the power of what they cannot see... Mad Mike 040 - UR - -end transmission--- http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/ ForwardSourceID:NT00024A3E
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Hmm. Seems natural to me. Despite the drama over the years, Detroiters usually stick up for each other. Nothing wrong with critical acclaim of any type as long as it doesn't shape you. Discuss amongst yourselves... -- Ian On Jan 12, 2006, at 12:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would have never imagined that it was so important to mad mike that juan atkins to be aknowledged by the commercial record industry. does that mean underground resistance has now become overground assistance? james www.jbucknell.com
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It's about standing up for a friend and mentor, home town, and way of doing things, it seems to me. And a moment of recognition that not everything is under the control of the programmers, even at the heart of their self-congratulatory, corrupt, musically reactionary mess of an industry. I'm actually thrilled by this. He has certainly had his ups and downs, and sure Missy is pop, but the whole point is that this happened because of techno, and it's about damn time Juan got some serious cred. fh -- mail forwarded, original message follows -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ok] Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:38:01 +1000 i would have never imagined that it was so important to mad mike that juan atkins to be aknowledged by the commercial record industry. does that mean underground resistance has now become overground assistance? james www.jbucknell.com
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Jeez James, don't be so churlish! Here I am in the belly of the beast, and so are you! Credit where it's due, I say. Ken -Original Message- From: Fred Heutte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 08:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy It's about standing up for a friend and mentor, home town, and way of doing things, it seems to me. And a moment of recognition that not everything is under the control of the programmers, even at the heart of their self-congratulatory, corrupt, musically reactionary mess of an industry. I'm actually thrilled by this. He has certainly had his ups and downs, and sure Missy is pop, but the whole point is that this happened because of techno, and it's about damn time Juan got some serious cred. fh -- mail forwarded, original message follows -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ok] Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:38:01 +1000 i would have never imagined that it was so important to mad mike that juan atkins to be aknowledged by the commercial record industry. does that mean underground resistance has now become overground assistance? james www.jbucknell.com
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trivial as this may be, the 154 is a huge fan of missy thinks she's pretty sci-fi maybe juan is just as honoured as missy should be groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 12 januari 2006 11:17 To: Fred Heutte; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Jeez James, don't be so churlish! Here I am in the belly of the beast, and so are you! Credit where it's due, I say. Ken -Original Message- From: Fred Heutte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 08:42 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy It's about standing up for a friend and mentor, home town, and way of doing things, it seems to me. And a moment of recognition that not everything is under the control of the programmers, even at the heart of their self-congratulatory, corrupt, musically reactionary mess of an industry. I'm actually thrilled by this. He has certainly had his ups and downs, and sure Missy is pop, but the whole point is that this happened because of techno, and it's about damn time Juan got some serious cred. fh -- mail forwarded, original message follows -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ok] Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:38:01 +1000 i would have never imagined that it was so important to mad mike that juan atkins to be aknowledged by the commercial record industry. does that mean underground resistance has now become overground assistance? james www.jbucknell.com The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
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I'd just like to say there's no way I'd let Juan Atkins get up my granny. some things in life are sacred. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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HAHAHAHAHHAHA Quality -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 10:29 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy I'd just like to say there's no way I'd let Juan Atkins get up my granny. some things in life are sacred. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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F me! How depressing a read is that list of nominations, especially the 'dance' ones ... but I press on to find the category I want to vote in... (One man's depressant is another's ecstasy, I know.) -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2006 21:04 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Herre is the link to the official website... 48th grammy awards 8th february 8pm et/pt CBS http://www.grammy.com/awards/grammy/48Awards.aspx On 11-jan-2006, at 21:54, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: --begin transmission Troops your services are required. Juan Atkins has been nominated as a writer as part of the song Losing Control by: Missy Elliot. Tell everybody you know that owes they're @ss to Juan Atkins to vote for Missy Elliot's Losing Control for best rap single. Lets show these motherf*ckaz the power of what they cannot see... Mad Mike 040 - UR - -end transmission--- http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/
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Right, done it. For those who haven't yet (and want to) scroll down to category 34. Ken -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken Sent: 12 January 2006 14:27 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy F me! How depressing a read is that list of nominations, especially the 'dance' ones ... but I press on to find the category I want to vote in... (One man's depressant is another's ecstasy, I know.) -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2006 21:04 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Herre is the link to the official website... 48th grammy awards 8th february 8pm et/pt CBS http://www.grammy.com/awards/grammy/48Awards.aspx On 11-jan-2006, at 21:54, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: --begin transmission Troops your services are required. Juan Atkins has been nominated as a writer as part of the song Losing Control by: Missy Elliot. Tell everybody you know that owes they're @ss to Juan Atkins to vote for Missy Elliot's Losing Control for best rap single. Lets show these motherf*ckaz the power of what they cannot see... Mad Mike 040 - UR - -end transmission--- http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/
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From Category 8, Best Pop Collaboration with Vocals # A Song For You Herbie Hancock Featuring Christina Aguilera Track from: Possibilities [Starbucks Hear Music/Hancock Music/Vector Recordings] WHAT?! On Jan 12, 2006, at 9:27, Odeluga, Ken wrote: F me! How depressing a read is that list of nominations, especially the 'dance' ones ... but I press on to find the category I want to vote in... (One man's depressant is another's ecstasy, I know.) -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2006 21:04 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Herre is the link to the official website... 48th grammy awards 8th february 8pm et/pt CBS http://www.grammy.com/awards/grammy/48Awards.aspx On 11-jan-2006, at 21:54, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: --begin transmission Troops your services are required. Juan Atkins has been nominated as a writer as part of the song Losing Control by: Missy Elliot. Tell everybody you know that owes they're @ss to Juan Atkins to vote for Missy Elliot's Losing Control for best rap single. Lets show these motherf*ckaz the power of what they cannot see... Mad Mike 040 - UR - -end transmission--- http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/ -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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There's a whole world of crazy musical going on outside our cocoon! :-) By the way, I thought I was on my way, but I learn that in fact most of us can't vote in the Gs. It's not that open a contest. It's more like the Oscars after all. Excuse the confusion. Read the FAQs here. http://www.grammy.com/academy/faqs.aspx -Original Message- From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 14:35 To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy From Category 8, Best Pop Collaboration with Vocals # A Song For You Herbie Hancock Featuring Christina Aguilera Track from: Possibilities [Starbucks Hear Music/Hancock Music/Vector Recordings] WHAT?! On Jan 12, 2006, at 9:27, Odeluga, Ken wrote: F me! How depressing a read is that list of nominations, especially the 'dance' ones ... but I press on to find the category I want to vote in... (One man's depressant is another's ecstasy, I know.) -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2006 21:04 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Herre is the link to the official website... 48th grammy awards 8th february 8pm et/pt CBS http://www.grammy.com/awards/grammy/48Awards.aspx On 11-jan-2006, at 21:54, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: --begin transmission Troops your services are required. Juan Atkins has been nominated as a writer as part of the song Losing Control by: Missy Elliot. Tell everybody you know that owes they're @ss to Juan Atkins to vote for Missy Elliot's Losing Control for best rap single. Lets show these motherf*ckaz the power of what they cannot see... Mad Mike 040 - UR - -end transmission--- http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/ -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Stupid question time, but how do you actually vote? -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 14:33 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Right, done it. For those who haven't yet (and want to) scroll down to category 34. Ken -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken Sent: 12 January 2006 14:27 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy F me! How depressing a read is that list of nominations, especially the 'dance' ones ... but I press on to find the category I want to vote in... (One man's depressant is another's ecstasy, I know.) -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2006 21:04 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Herre is the link to the official website... 48th grammy awards 8th february 8pm et/pt CBS http://www.grammy.com/awards/grammy/48Awards.aspx On 11-jan-2006, at 21:54, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: --begin transmission Troops your services are required. Juan Atkins has been nominated as a writer as part of the song Losing Control by: Missy Elliot. Tell everybody you know that owes they're @ss to Juan Atkins to vote for Missy Elliot's Losing Control for best rap single. Lets show these motherf*ckaz the power of what they cannot see... Mad Mike 040 - UR - -end transmission--- http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/
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Not stupid at all. I just answered it though. -Original Message- From: Hardie, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 14:43 To: Odeluga, Ken; 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Stupid question time, but how do you actually vote? -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 14:33 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Right, done it. For those who haven't yet (and want to) scroll down to category 34. Ken -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken Sent: 12 January 2006 14:27 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy F me! How depressing a read is that list of nominations, especially the 'dance' ones ... but I press on to find the category I want to vote in... (One man's depressant is another's ecstasy, I know.) -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2006 21:04 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Herre is the link to the official website... 48th grammy awards 8th february 8pm et/pt CBS http://www.grammy.com/awards/grammy/48Awards.aspx On 11-jan-2006, at 21:54, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: --begin transmission Troops your services are required. Juan Atkins has been nominated as a writer as part of the song Losing Control by: Missy Elliot. Tell everybody you know that owes they're @ss to Juan Atkins to vote for Missy Elliot's Losing Control for best rap single. Lets show these motherf*ckaz the power of what they cannot see... Mad Mike 040 - UR - -end transmission--- http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/
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Stupid question time, but how do you actually vote? Another stupid question, whats actually the point? I can't personally see how voting for a track that sampled Juan Atkins is giving support to him beyond possibly landing him another royalties pay cheque from the extra radio play/sales it'll get. Sorry if I sound like an old negative bitter miser, but its not like the kids are gonna be snapping up the Metroplex back catalogue cos of Missy. -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 14:33 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Right, done it. For those who haven't yet (and want to) scroll down to category 34. Ken -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken Sent: 12 January 2006 14:27 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy F me! How depressing a read is that list of nominations, especially the 'dance' ones ... but I press on to find the category I want to vote in... (One man's depressant is another's ecstasy, I know.) -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2006 21:04 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Herre is the link to the official website... 48th grammy awards 8th february 8pm et/pt CBS http://www.grammy.com/awards/grammy/48Awards.aspx On 11-jan-2006, at 21:54, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: --begin transmission Troops your services are required. Juan Atkins has been nominated as a writer as part of the song Losing Control by: Missy Elliot. Tell everybody you know that owes they're @ss to Juan Atkins to vote for Missy Elliot's Losing Control for best rap single. Lets show these motherf*ckaz the power of what they cannot see... Mad Mike 040 - UR - -end transmission--- http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/
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313 GRANNY AWARDS NOMINATIONS: BEST HIPPY STYLE FISHTANK AWARD: NewWorldAquarium BEST WAY TO TAKE YOUR GIRL OUT ON HER FIRST TRIP TO SCOTLAND AND GET SMASHED OUT OF YOUR FACE AWARD: Guilherme Morgan Arantes BEST 313 MEMBER TO WRITE TO IF YOUR CAR BREAKS DOWN AWARD: Steven Kelly @ AA.com BEST MEMBER WITH A NAME LIKE A WEATHER PHENOMENON: Cyclone Wheeler BEST TECHNO FRIEND FROM SINGAPORE AWARD: Colin Chen TOP ANAESTHETIC JOB OF 2006 AWARD: Alex Lugo She went under good and proper, out like a light, didnt wake up for 3 weeks BEST MEMBER WITH A NAME THAT SOUNDS NEARLY LIKE A MINT: Minto George _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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An extra royalties pay check isn't a bad reason, and if Juan's family are anything like mine, maybe they'll finally get off his back about getting a proper job ;) -Original Message- From: Stewart Caig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 14:46 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Stupid question time, but how do you actually vote? Another stupid question, whats actually the point? I can't personally see how voting for a track that sampled Juan Atkins is giving support to him beyond possibly landing him another royalties pay cheque from the extra radio play/sales it'll get. Sorry if I sound like an old negative bitter miser, but its not like the kids are gonna be snapping up the Metroplex back catalogue cos of Missy. -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 14:33 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Right, done it. For those who haven't yet (and want to) scroll down to category 34. Ken -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken Sent: 12 January 2006 14:27 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy F me! How depressing a read is that list of nominations, especially the 'dance' ones ... but I press on to find the category I want to vote in... (One man's depressant is another's ecstasy, I know.) -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2006 21:04 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Herre is the link to the official website... 48th grammy awards 8th february 8pm et/pt CBS http://www.grammy.com/awards/grammy/48Awards.aspx On 11-jan-2006, at 21:54, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: --begin transmission Troops your services are required. Juan Atkins has been nominated as a writer as part of the song Losing Control by: Missy Elliot. Tell everybody you know that owes they're @ss to Juan Atkins to vote for Missy Elliot's Losing Control for best rap single. Lets show these motherf*ckaz the power of what they cannot see... Mad Mike 040 - UR - -end transmission--- http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/
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Damn - I had no idea that Steve Silk Hurley was the president of the Grammy's Chicago chapter. MEK
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BEST PERSON WHO PROMISES TO SEND YOU A COPY OF THE ART COMP AND FORGETS Alex Bond :) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 2:52 PM Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy 313 GRANNY AWARDS NOMINATIONS: BEST HIPPY STYLE FISHTANK AWARD: NewWorldAquarium BEST WAY TO TAKE YOUR GIRL OUT ON HER FIRST TRIP TO SCOTLAND AND GET SMASHED OUT OF YOUR FACE AWARD: Guilherme Morgan Arantes BEST 313 MEMBER TO WRITE TO IF YOUR CAR BREAKS DOWN AWARD: Steven Kelly @ AA.com BEST MEMBER WITH A NAME LIKE A WEATHER PHENOMENON: Cyclone Wheeler BEST TECHNO FRIEND FROM SINGAPORE AWARD: Colin Chen TOP ANAESTHETIC JOB OF 2006 AWARD: Alex Lugo She went under good and proper, out like a light, didnt wake up for 3 weeks BEST MEMBER WITH A NAME THAT SOUNDS NEARLY LIKE A MINT: Minto George _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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BEST COMPILATION ALBUM WITH A SLEEVE THAT FEATURES AN EGG Art compilation BEST NON UK FRANK SPENCER LOOK-A-LIKE Marsel guess some mothers really do ave em groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: Stewart Caig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 12 januari 2006 15:57 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy BEST PERSON WHO PROMISES TO SEND YOU A COPY OF THE ART COMP AND FORGETS Alex Bond :) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 2:52 PM Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy 313 GRANNY AWARDS NOMINATIONS: BEST HIPPY STYLE FISHTANK AWARD: NewWorldAquarium BEST WAY TO TAKE YOUR GIRL OUT ON HER FIRST TRIP TO SCOTLAND AND GET SMASHED OUT OF YOUR FACE AWARD: Guilherme Morgan Arantes BEST 313 MEMBER TO WRITE TO IF YOUR CAR BREAKS DOWN AWARD: Steven Kelly @ AA.com BEST MEMBER WITH A NAME LIKE A WEATHER PHENOMENON: Cyclone Wheeler BEST TECHNO FRIEND FROM SINGAPORE AWARD: Colin Chen TOP ANAESTHETIC JOB OF 2006 AWARD: Alex Lugo She went under good and proper, out like a light, didnt wake up for 3 weeks BEST MEMBER WITH A NAME THAT SOUNDS NEARLY LIKE A MINT: Minto George _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
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BEST NON UK FRANK SPENCER LOOK-A-LIKE Marsel BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA *falls off chair laughing* p.s. eggs are in. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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yeah, just to clarify How do I qualify to become a Voting member? You need to have creative or technical credit on a minimum of six tracks (or their equivalent) in at least one voting discipline and the album must have been commercially released in the United States. Qualifying tracks can be on one album or a combination of albums. In the music video and craft categories you must have at least six commercial or promotional videos/albums released in the United States. Who does not qualify as a Voting member? Applicants who are credited as Executive Producer, Assistant Producer, AR, and Production Coordinators are examples of non-voting categories. If you think you might not qualify, call Member Services at 310.392.3777 or your local chapter to discuss your questions. so it's up to all the members of The Recording Academy that have voting privileges sorry Mike - were with you in spirit on this one but I don't think there's much most of us can do to influence this vote it's one of those behind closed doors type of things MEK Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] ones.com To Hardie, Nick 01/12/06 08:44 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Not stupid at all. I just answered it though. -Original Message- From: Hardie, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 14:43 To: Odeluga, Ken; 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Stupid question time, but how do you actually vote? -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 14:33 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Right, done it. For those who haven't yet (and want to) scroll down to category 34. Ken -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken Sent: 12 January 2006 14:27 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy F me! How depressing a read is that list of nominations, especially the 'dance' ones ... but I press on to find the category I want to vote in... (One man's depressant is another's ecstasy, I know.) -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2006 21:04 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Herre is the link to the official website... 48th grammy awards 8th february 8pm et/pt CBS http://www.grammy.com/awards/grammy/48Awards.aspx On 11-jan-2006, at 21:54, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: --begin transmission Troops your services are required. Juan Atkins has been nominated as a writer as part of the song Losing Control by: Missy Elliot. Tell everybody you know that owes they're @ss to Juan Atkins to vote for Missy Elliot's Losing Control for best rap single. Lets show these motherf*ckaz the power of what they cannot see... Mad Mike 040 - UR - -end transmission--- http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/
RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy
sorry Mike - were with you in spirit on this one but I don't think there's much most of us can do to influence this vote it's one of those behind closed doors type of things not me, I produced all of Bon Jovi's albums. with a tape machine and a bag of spanners, wearing marsels frank spencer style beret. my 2 votes go to juan. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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BEST NON UK FRANK SPENCER LOOK-A-LIKE Marsel http://www.claimwatch.co.uk/delsinep.jpg Sorry marsel, couldnt resist and Im bored at work. I dont actually think you look like Frank Spencer or anything!! :) groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT -Original Message- From: Stewart Caig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 12 januari 2006 15:57 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy BEST PERSON WHO PROMISES TO SEND YOU A COPY OF THE ART COMP AND FORGETS Alex Bond :) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 2:52 PM Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy 313 GRANNY AWARDS NOMINATIONS: BEST HIPPY STYLE FISHTANK AWARD: NewWorldAquarium BEST WAY TO TAKE YOUR GIRL OUT ON HER FIRST TRIP TO SCOTLAND AND GET SMASHED OUT OF YOUR FACE AWARD: Guilherme Morgan Arantes BEST 313 MEMBER TO WRITE TO IF YOUR CAR BREAKS DOWN AWARD: Steven Kelly @ AA.com BEST MEMBER WITH A NAME LIKE A WEATHER PHENOMENON: Cyclone Wheeler BEST TECHNO FRIEND FROM SINGAPORE AWARD: Colin Chen TOP ANAESTHETIC JOB OF 2006 AWARD: Alex Lugo She went under good and proper, out like a light, didnt wake up for 3 weeks BEST MEMBER WITH A NAME THAT SOUNDS NEARLY LIKE A MINT: Minto George _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
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BEST 154 LOOK-A-LIKE: Quinn ;) KJ (Bribe-able voting member) On 12-jan-2006, at 16:05, Peteri, Jochem wrote: BEST COMPILATION ALBUM WITH A SLEEVE THAT FEATURES AN EGG Art compilation BEST NON UK FRANK SPENCER LOOK-A-LIKE Marsel guess some mothers really do ave em groet, Jochem, Servicedesk ICT
RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy
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Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy
Besides qualifying to become a member, you must also cough up a bunch of cash every year to get voting rights and the other perks?. I would love to see Juan walk up on that stage and win an award, but until they give him credit by winning for best ELECTRO/Techno record what's the point. The uneducated masses don't know electro from hip-hop from Jazz and probably never will. What would be great is if he wins he could go up and blast the audience with a quick dose of knowledge like The music Industry sucks and you are all sheep!!!. Only problem with that is, he's not Kanye West so no one would even listen. WW - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org; Hardie, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy yeah, just to clarify How do I qualify to become a Voting member? You need to have creative or technical credit on a minimum of six tracks (or their equivalent) in at least one voting discipline and the album must have been commercially released in the United States. Qualifying tracks can be on one album or a combination of albums. In the music video and craft categories you must have at least six commercial or promotional videos/albums released in the United States. Who does not qualify as a Voting member? Applicants who are credited as Executive Producer, Assistant Producer, AR, and Production Coordinators are examples of non-voting categories. If you think you might not qualify, call Member Services at 310.392.3777 or your local chapter to discuss your questions. so it's up to all the members of The Recording Academy that have voting privileges sorry Mike - were with you in spirit on this one but I don't think there's much most of us can do to influence this vote it's one of those behind closed doors type of things MEK Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] ones.com To Hardie, Nick 01/12/06 08:44 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Not stupid at all. I just answered it though. -Original Message- From: Hardie, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 14:43 To: Odeluga, Ken; 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Stupid question time, but how do you actually vote? -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 14:33 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Right, done it. For those who haven't yet (and want to) scroll down to category 34. Ken -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken Sent: 12 January 2006 14:27 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy F me! How depressing a read is that list of nominations, especially the 'dance' ones ... but I press on to find the category I want to vote in... (One man's depressant is another's ecstasy, I know.) -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2006 21:04 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Herre is the link to the official website... 48th grammy awards 8th february 8pm et/pt CBS http://www.grammy.com/awards/grammy/48Awards.aspx On 11-jan-2006, at 21:54, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: --begin transmission Troops your services are required. Juan Atkins has been nominated as a writer as part of the song Losing Control by: Missy Elliot. Tell everybody you know that owes they're @ss to Juan Atkins to vote for Missy Elliot's Losing Control for best rap single. Lets show these motherf*ckaz the power of what they cannot see... Mad Mike 040 - UR - -end transmission--- http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/
RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy
Oh, you're THAT Alex 'Acme' Bond? I never knew. MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To 01/12/06 09:13 AM 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy sorry Mike - were with you in spirit on this one but I don't think there's much most of us can do to influence this vote it's one of those behind closed doors type of things not me, I produced all of Bon Jovi's albums. with a tape machine and a bag of spanners, wearing marsels frank spencer style beret. my 2 votes go to juan. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy
Oh, you're THAT Alex 'Acme' Bond? I never knew. yeah man. I'm like Phil Spector crossed with Macgyver. Stuck in an old garage with The Beatles, 2 coke cans, a megaphone, a welding machine and a hose pipe? Look no further, I can bring you a number 1 hit album AND a fully functioning battle ready field tank. SIGN HERE- ACME HIT MACHINE _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy
Hi Guys, I think its time to see reality... Of course I would prefer to vote directly for Juan for an electro track he did...But when u vote for Missy, it means you vote for Juan producer qualities, specially for an old track, it means, he still timeless producer. After that I don't understand why we can't vote for Juan thru Missy Elliot track...Why she doesn't sample him...its the best way to say, that guy rocks ! His music Rocks...If they can do a popular hip hop track with an electro sample, it shows the power of our music... I'm not a sampling guy, don't really like that, but, the ones who are saying its a shame to sample techno to do some kind of other music, are in extasy for Moodyman music, or the same they have Fix from Orlando Voorn in their all time favourite ( I'm one of these ones ;-)... Music is Music, always recycled, transformed, re-born...sometimes in a good, sometimes in a bad way...we have to admit this fact... So when Mad Mike is showing up to help friend to get what he deserve...from Hip-hop or techno, or electro scene...I think its a good thing... Its maybe better if Juan is coming to get his award than ABBA to get an award for madona's sampling ;-). So guys, music is more complicated than just Yes or not, Black or white, nothing or everything...I think than its not a shame (and finally very funny) to be the best hip-hop producer when you're doing electro...Maybe next year it should be Grand Master Flash or...some of you ??? Thats power of good music. ...just to remind you...Mister Lill Louis did an hip hop oriented album, and, finally was not a bad one... ...all these words to say, I'll vote, and will be proud for him if Juan is winning... Fabrice Lig From: Will Web [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:35:09 -0500 Besides qualifying to become a member, you must also cough up a bunch of cash every year to get voting rights and the other perks?. I would love to see Juan walk up on that stage and win an award, but until they give him credit by winning for best ELECTRO/Techno record what's the point. The uneducated masses don't know electro from hip-hop from Jazz and probably never will. What would be great is if he wins he could go up and blast the audience with a quick dose of knowledge like The music Industry sucks and you are all sheep!!!. Only problem with that is, he's not Kanye West so no one would even listen. WW - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org; Hardie, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy yeah, just to clarify How do I qualify to become a Voting member? You need to have creative or technical credit on a minimum of six tracks (or their equivalent) in at least one voting discipline and the album must have been commercially released in the United States. Qualifying tracks can be on one album or a combination of albums. In the music video and craft categories you must have at least six commercial or promotional videos/albums released in the United States. Who does not qualify as a Voting member? Applicants who are credited as Executive Producer, Assistant Producer, AR, and Production Coordinators are examples of non-voting categories. If you think you might not qualify, call Member Services at 310.392.3777 or your local chapter to discuss your questions. so it's up to all the members of The Recording Academy that have voting privileges sorry Mike - were with you in spirit on this one but I don't think there's much most of us can do to influence this vote it's one of those behind closed doors type of things MEK Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] ones.com To Hardie, Nick 01/12/06 08:44 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Not stupid at all. I just answered it though. -Original Message- From: Hardie, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 14:43 To: Odeluga, Ken; 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Stupid question time, but how do you actually vote? -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 14:33 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Right, done it. For those
Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy
I think it's a bit like the Oscars. You have to put it in perspective. Do the best films get nominated, the finest actors always? It's a good thing but is not always representative. Denzil should have won an Oscar years ago...( Though I will be happy if Heath Ledger gets something for Brokeback Mountain. ;)) The Grammy's are so off kilter most of the time it's hard to take some of results seriously but it would be nice for Juan, though obviously not what he fully deserves... Most of the dance acknowledged by the Grammys is so wack (Thunderpuss!) no one outside the US corporate arena could take it seriously. On 13/01/2006, at 8:40 AM, fabrice Lig wrote: Hi Guys, I think its time to see reality... Of course I would prefer to vote directly for Juan for an electro track he did...But when u vote for Missy, it means you vote for Juan producer qualities, specially for an old track, it means, he still timeless producer. After that I don't understand why we can't vote for Juan thru Missy Elliot track...Why she doesn't sample him...its the best way to say, that guy rocks ! His music Rocks...If they can do a popular hip hop track with an electro sample, it shows the power of our music... I'm not a sampling guy, don't really like that, but, the ones who are saying its a shame to sample techno to do some kind of other music, are in extasy for Moodyman music, or the same they have Fix from Orlando Voorn in their all time favourite ( I'm one of these ones ;-)... Music is Music, always recycled, transformed, re-born...sometimes in a good, sometimes in a bad way...we have to admit this fact... So when Mad Mike is showing up to help friend to get what he deserve...from Hip-hop or techno, or electro scene...I think its a good thing... Its maybe better if Juan is coming to get his award than ABBA to get an award for madona's sampling ;-). So guys, music is more complicated than just Yes or not, Black or white, nothing or everything...I think than its not a shame (and finally very funny) to be the best hip-hop producer when you're doing electro...Maybe next year it should be Grand Master Flash or...some of you ??? Thats power of good music. ...just to remind you...Mister Lill Louis did an hip hop oriented album, and, finally was not a bad one... ...all these words to say, I'll vote, and will be proud for him if Juan is winning... Fabrice Lig From: Will Web [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED],Michael.Elliot- [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:35:09 -0500 Besides qualifying to become a member, you must also cough up a bunch of cash every year to get voting rights and the other perks?. I would love to see Juan walk up on that stage and win an award, but until they give him credit by winning for best ELECTRO/Techno record what's the point. The uneducated masses don't know electro from hip-hop from Jazz and probably never will. What would be great is if he wins he could go up and blast the audience with a quick dose of knowledge like The music Industry sucks and you are all sheep!!!. Only problem with that is, he's not Kanye West so no one would even listen. WW - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org; Hardie, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy yeah, just to clarify How do I qualify to become a Voting member? You need to have creative or technical credit on a minimum of six tracks (or their equivalent) in at least one voting discipline and the album must have been commercially released in the United States. Qualifying tracks can be on one album or a combination of albums. In the music video and craft categories you must have at least six commercial or promotional videos/albums released in the United States. Who does not qualify as a Voting member? Applicants who are credited as Executive Producer, Assistant Producer, AR, and Production Coordinators are examples of non-voting categories. If you think you might not qualify, call Member Services at 310.392.3777 or your local chapter to discuss your questions. so it's up to all the members of The Recording Academy that have voting privileges sorry Mike - were with you in spirit on this one but I don't think there's much most of us can do to influence this vote it's one of those behind closed doors type of things MEK Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] ones.com To Hardie, Nick 01/12/06 08:44 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org
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I have been told that he's not getting any publishing royalties for it as he doesn't own the publishing, was sold long ago - I hope I'm wrong! On 13/01/2006, at 1:46 AM, Stewart Caig wrote: Stupid question time, but how do you actually vote? Another stupid question, whats actually the point? I can't personally see how voting for a track that sampled Juan Atkins is giving support to him beyond possibly landing him another royalties pay cheque from the extra radio play/sales it'll get. Sorry if I sound like an old negative bitter miser, but its not like the kids are gonna be snapping up the Metroplex back catalogue cos of Missy. -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 14:33 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Right, done it. For those who haven't yet (and want to) scroll down to category 34. Ken -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken Sent: 12 January 2006 14:27 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; 313 Mailinglist List Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy F me! How depressing a read is that list of nominations, especially the 'dance' ones ... but I press on to find the category I want to vote in... (One man's depressant is another's ecstasy, I know.) -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2006 21:04 To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Herre is the link to the official website... 48th grammy awards 8th february 8pm et/pt CBS http://www.grammy.com/awards/grammy/48Awards.aspx On 11-jan-2006, at 21:54, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: --begin transmission Troops your services are required. Juan Atkins has been nominated as a writer as part of the song Losing Control by: Missy Elliot. Tell everybody you know that owes they're @ss to Juan Atkins to vote for Missy Elliot's Losing Control for best rap single. Lets show these motherf*ckaz the power of what they cannot see... Mad Mike 040 - UR - -end transmission--- http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/
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I think it's a bit like the Oscars. You have to put it in perspective. Do the best films get nominated, the finest actors always? It's a good thing but is not always representative. Denzil should have won an Oscar years ago...( Though I will be happy if Heath Ledger gets something for Brokeback Mountain. ;)) The Grammy's are so off kilter most of the time it's hard to take some of results seriously but it would be nice for Juan, though obviously not what he fully deserves... Most of the dance acknowledged by the Grammys is so wack (Thunderpuss!) no one outside the US corporate arena could take it seriously. On 13/01/2006, at 8:40 AM, fabrice Lig wrote: Hi Guys, I think its time to see reality... Of course I would prefer to vote directly for Juan for an electro track he did...But when u vote for Missy, it means you vote for Juan producer qualities, specially for an old track, it means, he still timeless producer. After that I don't understand why we can't vote for Juan thru Missy Elliot track...Why she doesn't sample him...its the best way to say, that guy rocks ! His music Rocks...If they can do a popular hip hop track with an electro sample, it shows the power of our music... I'm not a sampling guy, don't really like that, but, the ones who are saying its a shame to sample techno to do some kind of other music, are in extasy for Moodyman music, or the same they have Fix from Orlando Voorn in their all time favourite ( I'm one of these ones ;-)... Music is Music, always recycled, transformed, re-born...sometimes in a good, sometimes in a bad way...we have to admit this fact... So when Mad Mike is showing up to help friend to get what he deserve...from Hip-hop or techno, or electro scene...I think its a good thing... Its maybe better if Juan is coming to get his award than ABBA to get an award for madona's sampling ;-). So guys, music is more complicated than just Yes or not, Black or white, nothing or everything...I think than its not a shame (and finally very funny) to be the best hip-hop producer when you're doing electro...Maybe next year it should be Grand Master Flash or...some of you ??? Thats power of good music. ...just to remind you...Mister Lill Louis did an hip hop oriented album, and, finally was not a bad one... ...all these words to say, I'll vote, and will be proud for him if Juan is winning... Fabrice Lig From: Will Web [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED],Michael.Elliot- [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:35:09 -0500 Besides qualifying to become a member, you must also cough up a bunch of cash every year to get voting rights and the other perks?. I would love to see Juan walk up on that stage and win an award, but until they give him credit by winning for best ELECTRO/Techno record what's the point. The uneducated masses don't know electro from hip-hop from Jazz and probably never will. What would be great is if he wins he could go up and blast the audience with a quick dose of knowledge like The music Industry sucks and you are all sheep!!!. Only problem with that is, he's not Kanye West so no one would even listen. WW - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org; Hardie, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy yeah, just to clarify How do I qualify to become a Voting member? You need to have creative or technical credit on a minimum of six tracks (or their equivalent) in at least one voting discipline and the album must have been commercially released in the United States. Qualifying tracks can be on one album or a combination of albums. In the music video and craft categories you must have at least six commercial or promotional videos/albums released in the United States. Who does not qualify as a Voting member? Applicants who are credited as Executive Producer, Assistant Producer, AR, and Production Coordinators are examples of non-voting categories. If you think you might not qualify, call Member Services at 310.392.3777 or your local chapter to discuss your questions. so it's up to all the members of The Recording Academy that have voting privileges sorry Mike - were with you in spirit on this one but I don't think there's much most of us can do to influence this vote it's one of those behind closed doors type of things MEK Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] ones.com To Hardie, Nick 01/12/06 08:44 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org
(313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy
--begin transmission Troops your services are required. Juan Atkins has been nominated as a writer as part of the song Losing Control by: Missy Elliot. Tell everybody you know that owes they're @ss to Juan Atkins to vote for Missy Elliot's Losing Control for best rap single. Lets show these motherf*ckaz the power of what they cannot see... Mad Mike 040 - UR - -end transmission--- http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/
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Herre is the link to the official website... 48th grammy awards 8th february 8pm et/pt CBS http://www.grammy.com/awards/grammy/48Awards.aspx On 11-jan-2006, at 21:54, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: --begin transmission Troops your services are required. Juan Atkins has been nominated as a writer as part of the song Losing Control by: Missy Elliot. Tell everybody you know that owes they're @ss to Juan Atkins to vote for Missy Elliot's Losing Control for best rap single. Lets show these motherf*ckaz the power of what they cannot see... Mad Mike 040 - UR - -end transmission--- http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/
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Not just Juan, they're also including Rick as well! that would be some sh_t... Cybotron winning a Grammy for a twenty some odd year old track. -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:54 PM To: 313 Mailinglist List Subject: (313) Juan Atkins Up For A Grammy --begin transmission Troops your services are required. Juan Atkins has been nominated as a writer as part of the song Losing Control by: Missy Elliot. Tell everybody you know that owes they're @ss to Juan Atkins to vote for Missy Elliot's Losing Control for best rap single. Lets show these motherf*ckaz the power of what they cannot see... Mad Mike 040 - UR - -end transmission--- http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/226 - Release Date: 1/10/2006
(313) Juan Atkins: where's my record box?
http://www.vpro.nl/weblog/news.jsp?news=23043291 check the audio icon for further instructions from the originator of detroit techno :) rebelbass
Re: (313) Juan Atkins: where's my record box?
go down to the dungeon where ever they keep all the lost boxes... it's a grey box. I need my box, it's grey, and you know what a DJ box looks like. Just go get it...and send it back to Detroit LOL! Sorry I'm laughing at this but Juan tells a good story. What a mess. So what happened? MEK Rebelbass/booking s [EMAIL PROTECTED] To ss.com [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org 07/01/05 04:25 AM cc Subject (313) Juan Atkins: where's my record box? http://www.vpro.nl/weblog/news.jsp?news=23043291 check the audio icon for further instructions from the originator of detroit techno :) rebelbass
RE: (313) Juan Atkins
Glad you like Paul!!! Thats a pretty strong compliment there!! Hey - send me that track... (and tell me about the warehouse) : ) placid [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org uk cc: Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins 11/11/2004 22:07 This ep ranks along side model 500 on transmat..may even be better... time will tell Thnks senor Bond... -Original Message- From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 November 2004 22:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 November 2004 11:20 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Hello List. Back to work. Great. Anyway, BT wrote: Just noticed that Piccadilly have samples up for the new Juan Atkins - Fast Forward EP on New Religion. I assume this is the one that Mr Bond has been dropping hints about for a while (Alex?). It sounds incredible, cant wait to pick up a copy this week (Jason - you guys got this is stock?) Yes! This is the one I've been banging on about! Check check check! It's 4 tracks of brilliant detroit techno. Can't see what there is not to like about it! I love it anyway. BT, I reckon Rubadub should have it, they're distributing it. OUT NOW! BUY ONE, SAVE MY SORRY ASS Just giving it the first proper listen, and am pretty stunned. It's wicked. Each of the four tracks as good as the last. I'm sure a favourite will emerge, but at the moment they're all sounding great to my ears. I was pretty hyped about all the recent stuff (less so the one on Metroplex than the others), but this blows them away. Jason, I bet you really like this. Lots of pitch slides done well. And I know how you like your slides. ;) Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
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Hello List. Back to work. Great. Anyway, BT wrote: Just noticed that Piccadilly have samples up for the new Juan Atkins - Fast Forward EP on New Religion. I assume this is the one that Mr Bond has been dropping hints about for a while (Alex?). It sounds incredible, cant wait to pick up a copy this week (Jason - you guys got this is stock?) Yes! This is the one I've been banging on about! Check check check! It's 4 tracks of brilliant detroit techno. Can't see what there is not to like about it! I love it anyway. BT, I reckon Rubadub should have it, they're distributing it. OUT NOW! BUY ONE, SAVE MY SORRY ASS : ) p.s. I got that new Carl Craig on Planet E. I really like it. COSMIC. p.p.s. I got the model 500 on metroplex for my birthday, I like that too, the instrumental. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) Juan Atkins
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 November 2004 11:20 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Hello List. Back to work. Great. Anyway, BT wrote: Just noticed that Piccadilly have samples up for the new Juan Atkins - Fast Forward EP on New Religion. I assume this is the one that Mr Bond has been dropping hints about for a while (Alex?). It sounds incredible, cant wait to pick up a copy this week (Jason - you guys got this is stock?) Yes! This is the one I've been banging on about! Check check check! It's 4 tracks of brilliant detroit techno. Can't see what there is not to like about it! I love it anyway. BT, I reckon Rubadub should have it, they're distributing it. OUT NOW! BUY ONE, SAVE MY SORRY ASS Just giving it the first proper listen, and am pretty stunned. It's wicked. Each of the four tracks as good as the last. I'm sure a favourite will emerge, but at the moment they're all sounding great to my ears. I was pretty hyped about all the recent stuff (less so the one on Metroplex than the others), but this blows them away. Jason, I bet you really like this. Lots of pitch slides done well. And I know how you like your slides. ;) Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Juan Atkins
This ep ranks along side model 500 on transmat..may even be better... time will tell Thnks senor Bond... -Original Message- From: Tristan Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 November 2004 22:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 November 2004 11:20 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Juan Atkins Hello List. Back to work. Great. Anyway, BT wrote: Just noticed that Piccadilly have samples up for the new Juan Atkins - Fast Forward EP on New Religion. I assume this is the one that Mr Bond has been dropping hints about for a while (Alex?). It sounds incredible, cant wait to pick up a copy this week (Jason - you guys got this is stock?) Yes! This is the one I've been banging on about! Check check check! It's 4 tracks of brilliant detroit techno. Can't see what there is not to like about it! I love it anyway. BT, I reckon Rubadub should have it, they're distributing it. OUT NOW! BUY ONE, SAVE MY SORRY ASS Just giving it the first proper listen, and am pretty stunned. It's wicked. Each of the four tracks as good as the last. I'm sure a favourite will emerge, but at the moment they're all sounding great to my ears. I was pretty hyped about all the recent stuff (less so the one on Metroplex than the others), but this blows them away. Jason, I bet you really like this. Lots of pitch slides done well. And I know how you like your slides. ;) Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Juan Atkins
Just noticed that Piccadilly have samples up for the new Juan Atkins - Fast Forward EP on New Religion. I assume this is the one that Mr Bond has been dropping hints about for a while (Alex?). It sounds incredible, cant wait to pick up a copy this week (Jason - you guys got this is stock?) Cheers BT
RE: (313) Juan Atkins
-Original Message- From: David Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 November 2004 11:24 To: 313 Subject: (313) Juan Atkins Just noticed that Piccadilly have samples up for the new Juan Atkins - Fast Forward EP on New Religion. I assume this is the one that Mr Bond has been dropping hints about for a while (Alex?). It sounds incredible, cant wait to pick up a copy this week (Jason - you guys got this is stock?) Judging by the clips, this sounds dope. Presently in transit to my grubby mits... Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Juan Atkins officially awarded for the 'International achievment'
I have half a second, so let me say this... Anyone who knows me knows that I'm not shy about voicing an opinion, whether good or bad (and i think i spend a lot more personal time talking about things I like). Like most everyone, I'd say there's my online person, in-person person and professional person- each one being a little more polite than the one before. i still stand by what i said. i don't think other people had any business getting involved with fetroit/Michigan civics issues when they don't live in the place, come from that place, or know any of the factors involved. perhaps you think that my publicly declaring the reasons why juan shouldn't have been included with derrick and kevin were out of line. maybe it would have been enough to just tell people to mind their own business. if i was merely trying to 'expose' someone's dirty laundry or 'prove' how in the loop i am, i would have just spouted off right away. i didn't. i did hint that perhaps there was reasons for juan's exclusion, but evidentally some people can't take a hint. whatever- its just my opinion anyways. but nothing i said was private knowledge. it's all public. i'll admit that the way i said things were probably a little flame heavy (thats that on-line persona that most people have), but speaking up when i think something is wack is certainly a right i maintain, on this list, or in person, or (when it's acceptable), in the print. I don't think that to do my job properly, i have to constantly behave in a consistant manner in my personal life. when i put juan on the cover of urb, with derrick and kevin last year, it was to tell a 20 year old story that is worth repeating. but- perhaps perpetuating the 'big three', as all journalist in this field do, is what contributes to the widely held assumption that none of the individuals should be allowed to exist without the others. that's why i was sure to pose that question to them, in person, and then print the response. maybe i also feel that it is my personal responsibility to counter some of the 'myth making' that is inherent in my job, by stating the contrary in my other communications to the world. also- be aware that a lot of my more skeptical opinions of people comes from working with them on a professional level (or lack of) both as a journalist and before that as a promoter. i never have and never will air that dirty laundry in public as it usually involves other people's money. so i guess this has actually turned into my response in full to this debate. if anyone would like to further discuss this, please do it privately (unless you think it's something that would benifit the whole list. i'm the last person who should tell anyone to take things private.) have a good weekend all. On Fri, 17 Sep 2004, Renegade808 wrote: i dont care who sides with who ...or who is in the cool click and who is not you would figure that someone who is in a position that josh is in then he would be ALOT more professional about what he say's in public forums...and i am sure this does wonders for him as a representative for URB... but i guess if these are the people URB wants to represent them then i guess thats on them.. i tend to get annoyed with alot of what josh says on this list or should i say trash talk.but i also disagree with others as wellahh well i guess thats what this list is aboutbut no need to blaintenly talk smack unless you would have the balls to say the same thing to that person, in personbut my guess is that most of the smack talk on this list would never get said to the person its about to there facemaybe thats the problem annoyed with the constant smack talk. michael i remember you and josh having 'discussions' on the list. i remember because i always side with him. ani p.s. see you d people at bandwidth : -Original Message- : From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : : ive been on here for nearing 4 years now, and i had no idea thats : who he was. and i read almost all 313 mail. : : tom
RE: (313) Juan Atkins officially awarded for the 'International achievment'
From: Renegade808 [EMAIL PROTECTED] you would figure that someone who is in a position that josh is in then he would be ALOT more professional about what he say's in public forums...and i am sure this does wonders for him as a representative for URB... but i guess if these are the people URB wants to represent them then i guess thats on them.. We are not our jobs. Just because Josh works for an techno-related publication, and this is a techno-related list, it doesn't mean that his posts on here in anyway represent his position or profession. It's not like he signs his emails Josh Glazer - Urb Magazine. And it's safe to assume that he makes nowhere near enough money to be willing to represent his employer 24/7. Back to the topic at hand, if it's purely based on contribution to local arts, let Juan share it. I just can't wait to hear what Eddie Fowlkes has to say about it. Anyone want to start a betting pool on how long it takes him to complain? _ Don't just Search. Find! http://search.sympatico.msn.ca/default.aspx The new MSN Search! Check it out!
Re: (313) Juan Atkins officially awarded for the 'International achievment'
lets all pitch in and buy eddie an award. we'll get josh and tom some awards too lets appease everyone at the same time go humans! -Joe :) - Original Message - From: Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 11:03 PM Subject: RE: (313) Juan Atkins officially awarded for the 'International achievment' From: Renegade808 [EMAIL PROTECTED] you would figure that someone who is in a position that josh is in then he would be ALOT more professional about what he say's in public forums...and i am sure this does wonders for him as a representative for URB... but i guess if these are the people URB wants to represent them then i guess thats on them.. We are not our jobs. Just because Josh works for an techno-related publication, and this is a techno-related list, it doesn't mean that his posts on here in anyway represent his position or profession. It's not like he signs his emails Josh Glazer - Urb Magazine. And it's safe to assume that he makes nowhere near enough money to be willing to represent his employer 24/7. Back to the topic at hand, if it's purely based on contribution to local arts, let Juan share it. I just can't wait to hear what Eddie Fowlkes has to say about it. Anyone want to start a betting pool on how long it takes him to complain? _ Don't just Search. Find! http://search.sympatico.msn.ca/default.aspx The new MSN Search! Check it out!
Re: (313) Juan Atkins officially awarded for the 'International achievment'
I think it's silly to compare - like saying who is more beautiul J Lo or Halle Berry or, um, Christy Turlington? Like saying who is the best rapper of all time - this person or this person. Art is not a sport. I don't think this is the place to play divide and conquer - even unwittingly. I very much doubt that there is any of that negativity. On a global level these awards, while symbolic, count for little - the records are the legacy and all three have made some incredible music and influenced many worldwide. No one can dispute that. i was keepin quiet, but this is a f**king travesty. what has juan done besides make some special records 20 YEARS AGO!!! derrick and kevin deserve this award, because they've put their time, energy and $$$ into making the Detroit festival happen. but no matter what they do, they'll forever be tied to juan- the man who couldn't even make his DEMF gig (and hundreds of other gigs) The man who as recently as this summer blew off throwing the opening pitch at a tigers game and i believe skipped the Metro times Motor City Music Awards after they flew him to Detroit to recieve a lifetime achievement award. Sure, the guy made some influential records. So friggin what. If I were Derrick or Kevin, i'd be disgusted, that after all their recent efforts, they still have to share the spotlight with a person who has done nothing to benifit the city in the past decade. All because some European idiots with too much time on thier hands and a collection of ancient texhno wax felt that made them experts on Detroit civics. friggin shame --- Hi Yussel... First let me say you that if you can keep polited your post, it will be more valuable and respectable. In place of a 'Stupid European', let me explain you why your post is a total non-sense. 1/ Since 20 years now, Techno music is submited to us 'stupid europeans' as a style invented and developped by Mr Juan Atkins, Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson. 2/ Money put into Movement by Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson is not the subject. Not anymore than Juan Atkins is present or not at some partys/events. 3/If you read carefully the letter writing for the guestbook in support to Juan Atkins,you will find the reach point of this support. Juan Atkins was excluded from this 'awards' due to his location. Not due to his participation or not to the Techno music in Detroit or anywhere in the world since twenty years or one year. 4/The recent efforts of Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson are totally respectable and we are (stupid europeans) in admiration on their job to keep Detroit Movement festival alive. Again, it's totally out of the subject. 5/They will be disgusted to share the award with Juan Atkins? Since the begining of Techno Music, they was not 'disgusted' to share the spotlight with the title of 'originators' and this title is certainly a part of their success and the 'international achievment'. Even if it's a minimal part. And again, BIG RESPECT to Juan Atkins, Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson. And I'd like to remember you that 'stupid europeans' have done a lot for Detroit Techno. Do you remember labels like Buzz Records, RS, Tresor, ... And they continue to do it. Majority of peoples who have signed the guestbook are europeans who keep Detroit techno at a high level in Europe. I don't know where you have finding any informations about our 'too much time in our hands'... But let me say you that it is not your problem. Please put your attention in your own life and not in our own life. Too, we are not only fans of 'ancient techno wax'... And we are not 'experts'... But we are supporters and fans of Detroit Techno and this give us the right to defend something we trust and for what we have passion and love. For your information, it's an american who have writing the letter in support to Juan Atkins. You have the right to don't agree with our action, but again I ask you only one thing. Be polited. 313 list is not a place for war between races or locations where you are from. A last word, I respect deeper all americans and all others on this planet. For me we are all the same, black, white, yellow, pink/green/orange if you want ! But some peoples have what we call the respect and the education some have not
Re: (313) Juan Atkins officially awarded for the 'International achievment'
On Sep 16, 2004, at 1:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've certainly never tried to hide my identity on this or any list. but whatever. Josh, as a writer for Urb covering so many detroit things you've also certainley never tried to SHOW your identity either. I was starting to perceive it as you were having it both ways, you were a known voice / reviewer for positivity and techno in Urb, but an anonymous sniper perched over 313 to be a nameless playerhater when you had some ill dirt on someone as soon as they were getting props from others. I just called it like i saw it. Maybe I'm crazy... if this is all my imagination i'm actually relieved that it's just some bizarre oversight in your communication technique all this time. Personally i'm a fan of direct accountability. i no wait- no one on this list reads anything except dan sicko and technotourist (no offence to either). nahh, if you think there's something great in urb, or WIRE, or XLR8R, or WaxPoetics, or KeepOn, or FutureMusic, or wherever else, tell the list! the articles you wrote about sound interesting.. feel free to plug them, post them online (if you have can, i know that's often not possible), they sound on topic to me. i let my subscription expire years ago when i felt Urb was going downhill... but you're totally right i haven't checked in lately. I always read the Scott Sterling bits back before it got more wide and RB stars were on the cover. I'm not anti Urb, i'm anti blanket tabloid-y Jerry Springer Show dissing of anyone you feel like hating on. I am anti- any music journalist who just thinks they have to be a bitter trash talker in order to be thought of as 'in the know', or worse, someone who has to trash talk in order to make us ignorant zombies look past the haze of blind fan-dom. Most of us here can. It just seemed to me like you're so dead set on debunking anyone genuine love for the music that you want to come after these artists for reasons that frankly I don't think that many people give a care about... I don't think 313 is a place for exposing all the warts you know and want everyone else to know, if it's irrelevant to the records and the music.. it seems like you feel it's your duty to keep trotting that stuff out as soon as someone is getting praised for something. it's like you think you're doing 313 some great service as a hard-hitting investigative reporter that will bring The Light down to us ignorant sycophant simpletons. I just wanted to tell you it's annoying to see it played out over and over. New day, different thread, but the same haytin. I think it's lame you just have also cast us all in a single brushstroke as not up for debate, not willing to criticize, that's a pretty oversimplified view... some of just have an internal ill hater regulation meter, where yours is apparently in need of a tune up. i'm sure you somehow think that your little college radio show somehow makes more of an impact than a national magazine that gives a consistant spotlight to underground music. all i can do is laugh, that's a good one! come one, we've met, it's funny you think i'd think that... I don't think i'm making an impact on sh!t except on how much of my paycheck I spend on bandwidth transfer each month.. ha. Frankly i have no delusions of making a differece beyond a fairly niche group of listeners in town and online, and while i'd love national impact, it's not my lifelong goal and I have no delusions of grandeur about what i'm doing. I'm a nobody! I like DJing and digging and the fact that i have an opportunity to share classic music I find interesting every week is something i do for free, and something i'm grateful I have a forum for, however miniscule it is. The site is basically just a ghetto blog for audio files. By contrast, Urb will always reach 10 million more people, if only because it's advertiser supported so it has funding so it has legs, reach, marketing, momentum. That's what it's for. That's why Urb exists. I'm not saying Urb doesn't have a right to exist, it fills a niche for what it is, and it's great people can have writing for Urb as a fulltime job, cause you're into music like we all are, but you're getting paid to write for it and that's awesome, actually, if you like what Urb is all about. Playing/unearthing/mixing records is, however, more fun to me than writing about them, but to each his own and I am glad there are both writers and DJs. And people who do both. But just so you know my show is making NO more than a tiny tiny difference, but one i'm into making, and that's a personal decision I'm comfortable with. I'm not chasing fame as a DJ (obviously! i missed that boat 10 years ago) and I think it's funny as hell anyone would think I am, especially in this country. I also know I could lose the radio slot at any time, so i try to make the most of it while I still can... Also - I'm
Re: (313) Juan Atkins officially awarded for the 'International achievment'
Hey. Don't want to start owt, or say owt, but I just wish the list could see a bit more 'Josh' and a bit less 'Yussel' really. If that makes any sense. Thanks Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Juan Atkins officially awarded for the 'International achievment'
On Sep 17, 2004, at 7:03 AM, Matt MacQueen wrote: On Sep 16, 2004, at 1:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've certainly never tried to hide my identity on this or any list. but whatever. Josh, as a writer for Urb covering so many Detroit things you've also certainly never tried to SHOW your identity either. I was starting to perceive it as you were having it both ways, you were a known voice / reviewer for positivity and techno in Urb, but an anonymous sniper perched over 313 to be a nameless playerhater when you had some ill dirt on someone as soon as they were getting props from others. I don't see Josh's mail (quoted by Matt) in either this Digest or the one preceding it. Did it get sent to the list, censored by the list, or did Matt respond publically to a private e-mail? (Bad Matt. No donut.) That said - I think Josh has used the same e-mail address ever since Day 1, that I'm aware of. I think accusing him of being a nameless playerhater given those circumstances is a bit Conspiracy Theorist. - Greg
Re: (313) Juan Atkins officially awarded for the 'International achievment'
On Sep 17, 2004, at 10:57 AM, Greg Earle wrote: I don't see Josh's mail (quoted by Matt) in either this Digest or the one preceding it. Did it get sent to the list, censored by the list, or did Matt respond publically to a private e-mail? (Bad Matt. No donut.) no! Replying to private mail back to 313 is a huge violation of terms and I was extremely careful to check that. I replied to an email from Yussel/Josh that was addressed to me, and CC'd to 313 and Alex Bond. It's possible it made it to me and Alex, but not to 313 possibly the digest due to some filter.. ugh. If that is the case all I can hope is is that Josh re-posts it because I think everyone should read it as he intended to be expressed, not just the parts I quoted in my reply sorry josh... there's probably some obscenity filter or something, i have no idea how those were set up on hyperreal or what the bingo words are... ugh.. -- Matt MacQueen http://SonicSunset.com
Re: (313) Juan Atkins officially awarded for the 'International achievment'
Matt MacQueen forwarded me yussel's reply to him, which was addressed to 313 as well as Matt directly. Why it didn't appear in the Digest is anyone's guess. Anyway, I just wanted to apologize to Matt, I didn't really think he would reply publicly to private e-mail, which is why I phrased it the way I did (asking which it was). We now return you to your Deep Space Radio listening, already in progress. - Greg (currently reminiscing about having seen The Ramones in 1977)
Re: (313) Juan Atkins officially awarded for the 'International achievment'
-- Original Message -- From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] That said - I think Josh has used the same e-mail address ever since Day 1, that I'm aware of. I think accusing him of being a nameless playerhater given those circumstances is a bit Conspiracy Theorist. ive been on here for nearing 4 years now, and i had no idea thats who he was. and i read almost all 313 mail. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Juan Atkins officially awarded for the 'International achievment'
i didn't realize i was worth knowing. thoughtful debate on mr mcqueen's mail when i have time this weekend. On Fri, 17 Sep 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] That said - I think Josh has used the same e-mail address ever since Day 1, that I'm aware of. I think accusing him of being a nameless playerhater given those circumstances is a bit Conspiracy Theorist. ive been on here for nearing 4 years now, and i had no idea thats who he was. and i read almost all 313 mail. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Juan Atkins officially awarded for the 'International achievment'
i remember you and josh having 'discussions' on the list. i remember because i always side with him. ani p.s. see you d people at bandwidth : -Original Message- : From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : : ive been on here for nearing 4 years now, and i had no idea thats : who he was. and i read almost all 313 mail. : : tom
Re: (313) Juan Atkins officially awarded for the 'Internationalachievment'
-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i didn't realize i was worth knowing. thoughtful debate on mr mcqueen's mail when i have time this weekend. that factoid explains alot about you. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Juan Atkins officially awarded for the 'International achievment'
-- Original Message -- From: ani [EMAIL PROTECTED] i remember you and josh having 'discussions' on the list. i remember because i always side with him. big suprise there. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Juan Atkins officially awarded for the 'Internationalachievment'
can anyone who is not mr cox explain what he means? or is he just trying to jump on the johnny pile? On Fri, 17 Sep 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i didn't realize i was worth knowing. thoughtful debate on mr mcqueen's mail when i have time this weekend. that factoid explains alot about you. tom andythepooh.com
