Re: (313) Movement 2013
+1 on the underground sound system and visual layout, it sounded AMAZING compared to previous years. That said, I felt there was a bit too much soundbleed between the Electric Forest and Red Bull/Main Stage areas, honestly. And while slightly less so, some soundbleed was still noticeable between the RB/Main area and the Made in Detroit stage setup -- which also kind of shocked me with the sheer amount of house music that was played throughout most people's sets. It created a sort of cognitive dissonance for me, based on the talent booked this year and what I've come to expect from the Made in Detroit area at previous festivals. Now, I'm an old-school and now-reformed househead who has no trouble singing along with 99% of the anthems (it's a soul thing, a body, thing, et al), but that's totally NOT what I'm flying to Detroit to listen to every year. I was kind of disappointed that there wasn't nearly as much minimal or even militant-sounding techno as I'm used to being exposed to -- especially from new (or at least undiscovered-to-me) artists -- at this year's Movement. Nicole Moudaber's set was one of the standout surprises for me; hearing a set like hers that blows me away and I instantly fall in love with is one of my favorite things about the festival, and for that, I'm extremely grateful. To hear a woman playing such a hardcore, relentlessly banging set made me both proud and hopeful that the whole female DJs are just gimmicks mindset will eventually fade out of the public's musical consciousness, though how long that'll take is anyone's guess...DJ Minx had her audience on lockdown as well, but I thought Magda's festival set was kind of meh this year (though her afterparty set delivered everything I'd hoped to hear earlier that day, so I really shouldn't complain...). Despite having tickets to the Bass Ain't on The Boat afterparty (because hey, The Upbeats! They flew all the way from NZ - when am I gonna get THAT opportunity again?), it got relocated to a less pedestrian-friendly spot than the original boat setup had been, so the only one I actually made it to was the Life and Death Detroit gig on Sunday at St. Andrew's Hall.. and oh my GOD, so glad I had my earplugs in!! Nothing can compare to being massaged from my scalp to the soles of my feet by a well-engineered wall of sound in the wee hours of the morning. It took me a couple hours to realize there was a different stage setup downstairs, and I was pleasantly surprised at the level of sound distinction/speaker muffling between the two (even moreso because one was essentially stacked right on top of the other, with the venue above packed to capacity with people dancing and everything that wasn't tied down vibrating along with the beat). Cheers to all the sound engineers, artists, volunteers and talent bookers who pulled this year's level of professionalism off -- especially the massive sound, camera and lighting rigs, nicely designed visual set-ups, streaming video/sound recordings via be-at.tv, Red Bull software/hardware demo room near the Underground stage, etc. Plus, everyone booked at the festivals and the only afterparty I went to seemed to be playing during their assigned slots, and each artist's gear looked like it got swapped out in a timely and safe manner between sets. There weren't any last-minute schedule changes due to talent not being able to get into the country or missing a flight (that I'm aware of, anyway), which I know has caused some headaches for Paxahau in the past. All of the stuff mentioned above requires massive amounts of coordination, party-throwing experience and teamwork to pull off seamlessly, and I know from personal experience how hard that is... especially by day 3, when everyone's sleep-deprived and hungover to the Nth degree. :) Didn't see any people passing out from heatstroke this time around, and the crowd seemed a bit smaller than it was during my last visit in 2011, which was... what, nearly 100k attendees? Curious to know how many people actually went this year... at any rate, it was a vacation well-spent! On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Darnistle McKuik darnis...@gmail.comwrote: I know this is long overdue, but I felt an obligation (misplaced, no doubt) to post something about the festival. First of all, I think Paxahau should be commended for having improved the sound quality at the Underground Stage. The area had already begun sounding less and less murky each year, but this year I was quite surprised by the degree of aural clarity. I did not go down into the pit this year, but the quality of the sound near the walkways (behind the soundboard and near the bathroom) was very impressive. Second kudos to Paxahau for altering the orientation for the Electric Forest stage speakers, which worked very well. Though I wasn't keen on any of the music I heard from that stage all weekend, the sound was very full and rich, much more than previous years when the speakers were facing the
Re: (313) Movement 2013
Thanks much for the reflections on the festival and the shout out. Take care. Andrew http://andrewdukeinthemix.com On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Lori Polemenakos girly...@gmail.comwrote: +1 on the underground sound system and visual layout, it sounded AMAZING compared to previous years. That said, I felt there was a bit too much soundbleed between the Electric Forest and Red Bull/Main Stage areas, honestly. And while slightly less so, some soundbleed was still noticeable between the RB/Main area and the Made in Detroit stage setup -- which also kind of shocked me with the sheer amount of house music that was played throughout most people's sets. It created a sort of cognitive dissonance for me, based on the talent booked this year and what I've come to expect from the Made in Detroit area at previous festivals. Now, I'm an old-school and now-reformed househead who has no trouble singing along with 99% of the anthems (it's a soul thing, a body, thing, et al), but that's totally NOT what I'm flying to Detroit to listen to every year. I was kind of disappointed that there wasn't nearly as much minimal or even militant-sounding techno as I'm used to being exposed to -- especially from new (or at least undiscovered-to-me) artists -- at this year's Movement. Nicole Moudaber's set was one of the standout surprises for me; hearing a set like hers that blows me away and I instantly fall in love with is one of my favorite things about the festival, and for that, I'm extremely grateful. To hear a woman playing such a hardcore, relentlessly banging set made me both proud and hopeful that the whole female DJs are just gimmicks mindset will eventually fade out of the public's musical consciousness, though how long that'll take is anyone's guess...DJ Minx had her audience on lockdown as well, but I thought Magda's festival set was kind of meh this year (though her afterparty set delivered everything I'd hoped to hear earlier that day, so I really shouldn't complain...). Despite having tickets to the Bass Ain't on The Boat afterparty (because hey, The Upbeats! They flew all the way from NZ - when am I gonna get THAT opportunity again?), it got relocated to a less pedestrian-friendly spot than the original boat setup had been, so the only one I actually made it to was the Life and Death Detroit gig on Sunday at St. Andrew's Hall.. and oh my GOD, so glad I had my earplugs in!! Nothing can compare to being massaged from my scalp to the soles of my feet by a well-engineered wall of sound in the wee hours of the morning. It took me a couple hours to realize there was a different stage setup downstairs, and I was pleasantly surprised at the level of sound distinction/speaker muffling between the two (even moreso because one was essentially stacked right on top of the other, with the venue above packed to capacity with people dancing and everything that wasn't tied down vibrating along with the beat). Cheers to all the sound engineers, artists, volunteers and talent bookers who pulled this year's level of professionalism off -- especially the massive sound, camera and lighting rigs, nicely designed visual set-ups, streaming video/sound recordings via be-at.tv, Red Bull software/hardware demo room near the Underground stage, etc. Plus, everyone booked at the festivals and the only afterparty I went to seemed to be playing during their assigned slots, and each artist's gear looked like it got swapped out in a timely and safe manner between sets. There weren't any last-minute schedule changes due to talent not being able to get into the country or missing a flight (that I'm aware of, anyway), which I know has caused some headaches for Paxahau in the past. All of the stuff mentioned above requires massive amounts of coordination, party-throwing experience and teamwork to pull off seamlessly, and I know from personal experience how hard that is... especially by day 3, when everyone's sleep-deprived and hungover to the Nth degree. :) Didn't see any people passing out from heatstroke this time around, and the crowd seemed a bit smaller than it was during my last visit in 2011, which was... what, nearly 100k attendees? Curious to know how many people actually went this year... at any rate, it was a vacation well-spent! On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Darnistle McKuik darnis...@gmail.comwrote: I know this is long overdue, but I felt an obligation (misplaced, no doubt) to post something about the festival. First of all, I think Paxahau should be commended for having improved the sound quality at the Underground Stage. The area had already begun sounding less and less murky each year, but this year I was quite surprised by the degree of aural clarity. I did not go down into the pit this year, but the quality of the sound near the walkways (behind the soundboard and near the bathroom) was very impressive. Second kudos to Paxahau for altering the
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Hi Fred- Long time 313 lurker here. I just wanted to add some feedback: - Loved KDJ -- especially the fact that he actually spun vinyl. I think he even played some Genesis (Phil Collins era no less) in that crazy set. - Richie Hawtin was really fun. I enjoyed the whole thing. - DJ Minx! Amazing. That woman can command an audience. - Audion -- loved Audion live. He really took advantage of the Red Bull Academy sound. - Dan Bell -- great groove in his set. Made in Detroit's sound was perfect for his set. (And vinyl again!). I can't believe I've never seen him DJ. - Rrose -- unbelievable. My favorite set of the festival despite the crowded underground stage/weather. I was a little disappointed with the MID sound system on Monday. It didn't do justice to what Carlos Souffront had to offer. Detroit notes: Drove by the Packard Plant. I was sad to see how it's deteriorated in the past (almost 20 years). Loved the Heidelberg Project. I'm so glad it's still there (at least in part). Back to lurking…. :-) -Suzane On Sunday, 26. May 2013 at 14:01, Fred Heutte wrote: How y'all feeling out there? Met up with John Sokolowski yesterday and heard rumors that Mr. Earle is in the house... Good sets yesterday from 16 Lolitas, KDJ, CC, Alton MIller. Mr. Parker, playing the classics. But the difference between me playing those classics (Nightcrawlers, No UFOs, and on and on) is what makes Terrence so special. He was on -fire- despite playing in a t-shirt in 50 degree weather. Dubstep has arrived at the festival (in its highly fragmented genre state). Nuff said. The weather is actually very nice if on the coolish side, and there was a great full moon rising over the Detroit River last night. See you on the plaza and at the parteez... because there's no way back, at all... fh 503.757-6222
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I hope to see more of you today!! I was out sick on Saturday and missed all the greatness. Mala, Adult., Minx, and Dan Bell were my highlights yesterday. Got to see Lori! Adult. played Sharevari and I actually liked it! Dan Bell melted everything and it was funky as hell. I plan to check out Dabrye today among others. And then Francois K of course! Get at me! Denise 812-606-1741 On May 26, 2013, at 16:30, John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com wrote: Confirming Mr Earle is in the house. Last spotted getting down in the middle of the floor at city club at 5am. TP and Dave Clarke were highlights yesterday for sure. Mo Reese was also amazing at bookie's Friday night. May need a disco nap before going no way back at all... From: the...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 12:59:43 -0700 To: girly...@gmail.com; ph...@sunlightdata.com CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) movement represent Fbk is likely lurking around, wearing an absoloop t shirt and wearing orange :) Sent from my Windows Phone From: Lori Polemenakos Sent: 5/26/2013 3:42 PM To: Fred Heutte Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) movement represent Dave Clarke had the set of the night, IMO. On Sunday, May 26, 2013, Fred Heutte wrote: How y'all feeling out there? Met up with John Sokolowski yesterday and heard rumors that Mr. Earle is in the house... Good sets yesterday from 16 Lolitas, KDJ, CC, Alton MIller. Mr. Parker, playing the classics. But the difference between me playing those classics (Nightcrawlers, No UFOs, and on and on) is what makes Terrence so special. He was on -fire- despite playing in a t-shirt in 50 degree weather. Dubstep has arrived at the festival (in its highly fragmented genre state). Nuff said. The weather is actually very nice if on the coolish side, and there was a great full moon rising over the Detroit River last night. See you on the plaza and at the parteez... because there's no way back, at all... fh 503.757-6222
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Dave Clarke had the set of the night, IMO. On Sunday, May 26, 2013, Fred Heutte wrote: How y'all feeling out there? Met up with John Sokolowski yesterday and heard rumors that Mr. Earle is in the house... Good sets yesterday from 16 Lolitas, KDJ, CC, Alton MIller. Mr. Parker, playing the classics. But the difference between me playing those classics (Nightcrawlers, No UFOs, and on and on) is what makes Terrence so special. He was on -fire- despite playing in a t-shirt in 50 degree weather. Dubstep has arrived at the festival (in its highly fragmented genre state). Nuff said. The weather is actually very nice if on the coolish side, and there was a great full moon rising over the Detroit River last night. See you on the plaza and at the parteez... because there's no way back, at all... fh 503.757-6222
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Fbk is likely lurking around, wearing an absoloop t shirt and wearing orange :) Sent from my Windows Phone -- From: Lori Polemenakos Sent: 5/26/2013 3:42 PM To: Fred Heutte Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) movement represent Dave Clarke had the set of the night, IMO. On Sunday, May 26, 2013, Fred Heutte wrote: How y'all feeling out there? Met up with John Sokolowski yesterday and heard rumors that Mr. Earle is in the house... Good sets yesterday from 16 Lolitas, KDJ, CC, Alton MIller. Mr. Parker, playing the classics. But the difference between me playing those classics (Nightcrawlers, No UFOs, and on and on) is what makes Terrence so special. He was on -fire- despite playing in a t-shirt in 50 degree weather. Dubstep has arrived at the festival (in its highly fragmented genre state). Nuff said. The weather is actually very nice if on the coolish side, and there was a great full moon rising over the Detroit River last night. See you on the plaza and at the parteez... because there's no way back, at all... fh 503.757-6222
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Confirming Mr Earle is in the house. Last spotted getting down in the middle of the floor at city club at 5am. TP and Dave Clarke were highlights yesterday for sure. Mo Reese was also amazing at bookie's Friday night. May need a disco nap before going no way back at all... From: the...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 12:59:43 -0700 To: girly...@gmail.com; ph...@sunlightdata.com CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) movement represent Fbk is likely lurking around, wearing an absoloop t shirt and wearing orange :) Sent from my Windows Phone From: Lori Polemenakos Sent: 5/26/2013 3:42 PM To: Fred Heutte Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) movement represent Dave Clarke had the set of the night, IMO. On Sunday, May 26, 2013, Fred Heutte wrote: How y'all feeling out there? Met up with John Sokolowski yesterday and heard rumors that Mr. Earle is in the house... Good sets yesterday from 16 Lolitas, KDJ, CC, Alton MIller. Mr. Parker, playing the classics. But the difference between me playing those classics (Nightcrawlers, No UFOs, and on and on) is what makes Terrence so special. He was on -fire- despite playing in a t-shirt in 50 degree weather. Dubstep has arrived at the festival (in its highly fragmented genre state). Nuff said. The weather is actually very nice if on the coolish side, and there was a great full moon rising over the Detroit River last night. See you on the plaza and at the parteez... because there's no way back, at all... fh 503.757-6222
Re: (313) Movement, Music and Detroit
Definitely agree! My comments only pertained to trying to obtain SPECIFIC (limited quantity) records that you already know you want. However, rest assured you will find some vinyl goodness at Detroit Threads during festival weekend. ~dp On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:40 PM, John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com wrote: One exception is certainly Detroit Threads. I know that folks like Huckaby, Theo, Kyle Hall, BMG and Juan Atkins personally walk their new releases into the store. These are some of the names the owner of Threads has mentioned to me and I am sure there are many others. They usually get about $5 cash for each 12 before it is sold for a few bucks more on the floor. If you are there at the right time you will see definitely see new Detroit records before they pop up on places like Juno. Then there are the records that are released by Detroit labels for the festival. Many labels have historically timed their new releases to coincide with the festival. You get those in Detroit first. Some of these are also exclusive to Detroit, such as Theo's spray painted Skteches, Deepchord DEMF editions, etc. And then on top of that you have people like KDJ who pull out a box full of mint copies of Shades of Jae and JAN to sell at the festival. When it comes to this time of year, I agree with Darnistle's comment that Detroit is the best place to shop for Detroit techno (and house for me). There is a bunch of new stuff I have been holding out on because I know it can be had there. Cheers, John
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Sadly, due to rising costs, poor US market, and poor US distributors, the brutal truth is that most of the best new Detroit records are now ONLY available in Europe; basically, although I live in Chicago, when I want new Detroit music, I order from Juno, Boomkat and Hardwax. I don't even bother checking US stores anymore if I am looking for specific records, though of course I do shop at Gramaphone here in Chicago from time to time as well. It seems that the whole EDM popularity over here has not helped with the US vinyl market for underground house and techno at all. I had hoped that increasing vinyl sales would help things, but I can only assume that the rising popularity of vinyl is limited more to indie rock type music, here in the US... ~David On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Richard Hester gwrenc...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Unless you happen to be in Berlin, sad to say...
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One exception is certainly Detroit Threads. I know that folks like Huckaby, Theo, Kyle Hall, BMG and Juan Atkins personally walk their new releases into the store. These are some of the names the owner of Threads has mentioned to me and I am sure there are many others. They usually get about $5 cash for each 12 before it is sold for a few bucks more on the floor. If you are there at the right time you will see definitely see new Detroit records before they pop up on places like Juno. Then there are the records that are released by Detroit labels for the festival. Many labels have historically timed their new releases to coincide with the festival. You get those in Detroit first. Some of these are also exclusive to Detroit, such as Theo's spray painted Skteches, Deepchord DEMF editions, etc. And then on top of that you have people like KDJ who pull out a box full of mint copies of Shades of Jae and JAN to sell at the festival. When it comes to this time of year, I agree with Darnistle's comment that Detroit is the best place to shop for Detroit techno (and house for me). There is a bunch of new stuff I have been holding out on because I know it can be had there. Cheers,John Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 13:27:55 -0500 From: cybo...@gmail.com To: gwrenc...@sbcglobal.net CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement, Music and Detroit Sadly, due to rising costs, poor US market, and poor US distributors, the brutal truth is that most of the best new Detroit records are now ONLY available in Europe; basically, although I live in Chicago, when I want new Detroit music, I order from Juno, Boomkat and Hardwax. I don't even bother checking US stores anymore if I am looking for specific records, though of course I do shop at Gramaphone here in Chicago from time to time as well. It seems that the whole EDM popularity over here has not helped with the US vinyl market for underground house and techno at all. I had hoped that increasing vinyl sales would help things, but I can only assume that the rising popularity of vinyl is limited more to indie rock type music, here in the US... ~David On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Richard Hester gwrenc...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Unless you happen to be in Berlin, sad to say...
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Plus buying a record in a certain place gives you additional associations when you listen to it in the future! cheers Jason On 10 May 2013 20:40, John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com wrote: One exception is certainly Detroit Threads. I know that folks like Huckaby, Theo, Kyle Hall, BMG and Juan Atkins personally walk their new releases into the store. These are some of the names the owner of Threads has mentioned to me and I am sure there are many others. They usually get about $5 cash for each 12 before it is sold for a few bucks more on the floor. If you are there at the right time you will see definitely see new Detroit records before they pop up on places like Juno. Then there are the records that are released by Detroit labels for the festival. Many labels have historically timed their new releases to coincide with the festival. You get those in Detroit first. Some of these are also exclusive to Detroit, such as Theo's spray painted Skteches, Deepchord DEMF editions, etc. And then on top of that you have people like KDJ who pull out a box full of mint copies of Shades of Jae and JAN to sell at the festival. When it comes to this time of year, I agree with Darnistle's comment that Detroit is the best place to shop for Detroit techno (and house for me). There is a bunch of new stuff I have been holding out on because I know it can be had there. Cheers, John Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 13:27:55 -0500 From: cybo...@gmail.com To: gwrenc...@sbcglobal.net CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement, Music and Detroit Sadly, due to rising costs, poor US market, and poor US distributors, the brutal truth is that most of the best new Detroit records are now ONLY available in Europe; basically, although I live in Chicago, when I want new Detroit music, I order from Juno, Boomkat and Hardwax. I don't even bother checking US stores anymore if I am looking for specific records, though of course I do shop at Gramaphone here in Chicago from time to time as well. It seems that the whole EDM popularity over here has not helped with the US vinyl market for underground house and techno at all. I had hoped that increasing vinyl sales would help things, but I can only assume that the rising popularity of vinyl is limited more to indie rock type music, here in the US... ~David On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Richard Hester gwrenc...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Unless you happen to be in Berlin, sad to say...
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Of course there's the S.I.D. series only available to those who actually show up at Submerge. I got three of the series when I was in the D for the Metroplex 10th Anniversary do (I hauled away two boxes of records/CDs from Submerge, 7th City, and Record Time). I still cherish those SID discs, and you'll hear bits from two of them tonight on my show... ja...@iridite.com wrote: Plus buying a record in a certain place gives you additional associations when you listen to it in the future! cheers Jason On 10 May 2013 20:40, John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com mailto:jrsokolow...@hotmail.com wrote: One exception is certainly Detroit Threads. I know that folks like Huckaby, Theo, Kyle Hall, BMG and Juan Atkins personally walk their new releases into the store. These are some of the names the owner of Threads has mentioned to me and I am sure there are many others. They usually get about $5 cash for each 12 before it is sold for a few bucks more on the floor. If you are there at the right time you will see definitely see new Detroit records before they pop up on places like Juno. Then there are the records that are released by Detroit labels for the festival. Many labels have historically timed their new releases to coincide with the festival. You get those in Detroit first. Some of these are also exclusive to Detroit, such as Theo's spray painted Skteches, Deepchord DEMF editions, etc. And then on top of that you have people like KDJ who pull out a box full of mint copies of Shades of Jae and JAN to sell at the festival. When it comes to this time of year, I agree with Darnistle's comment that Detroit is the best place to shop for Detroit techno (and house for me). There is a bunch of new stuff I have been holding out on because I know it can be had there. Cheers, John Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 13:27:55 -0500 From: cybo...@gmail.com mailto:cybo...@gmail.com To: gwrenc...@sbcglobal.net mailto:gwrenc...@sbcglobal.net CC: 313@hyperreal.org mailto:313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement, Music and Detroit Sadly, due to rising costs, poor US market, and poor US distributors, the brutal truth is that most of the best new Detroit records are now ONLY available in Europe; basically, although I live in Chicago, when I want new Detroit music, I order from Juno, Boomkat and Hardwax. I don't even bother checking US stores anymore if I am looking for specific records, though of course I do shop at Gramaphone here in Chicago from time to time as well. It seems that the whole EDM popularity over here has not helped with the US vinyl market for underground house and techno at all. I had hoped that increasing vinyl sales would help things, but I can only assume that the rising popularity of vinyl is limited more to indie rock type music, here in the US... ~David On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Richard Hester gwrenc...@sbcglobal.net mailto:gwrenc...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Unless you happen to be in Berlin, sad to say...
RE: (313) Movement, Music and Detroit
What sort of music are you interested in? From: Darnistle McKuik [mailto:darnis...@gmail.com] Sent: 08 May 2013 19:34 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Movement, Music and Detroit So it looks like I will be going to the festival again this year!! YAY!!! I can hardly wait! As always, shopping for music is de rigueur. That said, other than Detroit Threads and Melodies and Memories, can any of you local peeps recommend other stores worth checking out? Have any new stores of interest opened to fill the void? http://www.bbc.co.uk This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. -
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Techno- especially Detroit-related Drum n Bass Goth/Punk IDM I prefer CDs, but I do buy vinyl as well. On May 8, 2013 2:34 PM, Darnistle McKuik darnis...@gmail.com wrote: So it looks like I will be going to the festival again this year!! YAY!!! I can hardly wait! As always, shopping for music is de rigueur. That said, other than Detroit Threads and Melodies and Memories, can any of you local peeps recommend other stores worth checking out? Have any new stores of interest opened to fill the void?
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I’ve never found much IDM in Detroit but for those other genres I’d recommend the following spots for vinyl (can’t really comment on CDs): Stormy Records in Dearborn Goth/Punk + plenty more rock vinyl Record Collector in Ferndale I’ve found quite a lot of very good condition old techno 12”s here over the years People’s Records on Woodward Quite a random mix of industrial, old techno and drum and bass (e.g. Reinforced) can be found in the dollar bins but you’ve got to dig Street Corner in Oak Park Found plenty of old techno here + they sell quite a lot of CDs From: Darnistle McKuik [mailto:darnis...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 May 2013 16:21 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement, Music and Detroit Techno- especially Detroit-related Drum n Bass Goth/Punk IDM I prefer CDs, but I do buy vinyl as well. On May 8, 2013 2:34 PM, Darnistle McKuik darnis...@gmail.commailto:darnis...@gmail.com wrote: So it looks like I will be going to the festival again this year!! YAY!!! I can hardly wait! As always, shopping for music is de rigueur. That said, other than Detroit Threads and Melodies and Memories, can any of you local peeps recommend other stores worth checking out? Have any new stores of interest opened to fill the void? http://www.bbc.co.uk This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. -
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You definitely want to hit Stormy, but make sure you get there before the weekend because they close on Sunday and Monday that weekend. If you get in touch with Windy she will go out of her way to give you a comprehensive list of the remaining record stores in Detroit. Record Collector closed their doors earlier this year. m On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Daniel Bean daniel.b...@bbc.co.uk wrote: I’ve never found much IDM in Detroit but for those other genres I’d recommend the following spots for vinyl (can’t really comment on CDs): ** ** Stormy Records in Dearborn Goth/Punk + plenty more rock vinyl ** ** Record Collector in Ferndale I’ve found quite a lot of very good condition old techno 12”s here over the years ** ** People’s Records on Woodward Quite a random mix of industrial, old techno and drum and bass (e.g. Reinforced) can be found in the dollar bins but you’ve got to dig ** ** Street Corner in Oak Park Found plenty of old techno here + they sell quite a lot of CDs ** ** *From:* Darnistle McKuik [mailto:darnis...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 09 May 2013 16:21 *To:* 313@hyperreal.org *Subject:* Re: (313) Movement, Music and Detroit ** ** Techno- especially Detroit-related Drum n Bass Goth/Punk IDM I prefer CDs, but I do buy vinyl as well. On May 8, 2013 2:34 PM, Darnistle McKuik darnis...@gmail.com wrote:*** * So it looks like I will be going to the festival again this year!! YAY!!! I can hardly wait! As always, shopping for music is de rigueur. That said, other than Detroit Threads and Melodies and Memories, can any of you local peeps recommend other stores worth checking out? Have any new stores of interest opened to fill the void? http://www.bbc.co.uk This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. -
Re: (313) Movement, Music and Detroit
Thanks for the suggestions! I've always wanted to check out Stormy Records, but Saturday has traditionally been the day I make the trek out to Flat, Black and Circular in East Lansing then Encore in Ann Arbor on the way back to Detroit, time permitting, before I check out the festival. Perhaps I'll skip Ann Arbor this year and do Dearborn instead. Regardless, over the course of the weekend I'd like to ensure that I go to stores that carry Detroit techno, since Detroit is still the best place for me to shop for it. On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Mike Taylor disconihil...@gmail.comwrote: You definitely want to hit Stormy, but make sure you get there before the weekend because they close on Sunday and Monday that weekend. If you get in touch with Windy she will go out of her way to give you a comprehensive list of the remaining record stores in Detroit. Record Collector closed their doors earlier this year. m On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Daniel Bean daniel.b...@bbc.co.ukwrote: I’ve never found much IDM in Detroit but for those other genres I’d recommend the following spots for vinyl (can’t really comment on CDs):*** * ** ** Stormy Records in Dearborn Goth/Punk + plenty more rock vinyl ** ** Record Collector in Ferndale I’ve found quite a lot of very good condition old techno 12”s here over the years ** ** People’s Records on Woodward Quite a random mix of industrial, old techno and drum and bass (e.g. Reinforced) can be found in the dollar bins but you’ve got to dig ** ** Street Corner in Oak Park Found plenty of old techno here + they sell quite a lot of CDs ** ** *From:* Darnistle McKuik [mailto:darnis...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 09 May 2013 16:21 *To:* 313@hyperreal.org *Subject:* Re: (313) Movement, Music and Detroit ** ** Techno- especially Detroit-related Drum n Bass Goth/Punk IDM I prefer CDs, but I do buy vinyl as well. On May 8, 2013 2:34 PM, Darnistle McKuik darnis...@gmail.com wrote:** ** So it looks like I will be going to the festival again this year!! YAY!!! I can hardly wait! As always, shopping for music is de rigueur. That said, other than Detroit Threads and Melodies and Memories, can any of you local peeps recommend other stores worth checking out? Have any new stores of interest opened to fill the void? http://www.bbc.co.uk This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. -
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Unless you happen to be in Berlin, sad to say... Darnistle McKuik wrote: Thanks for the suggestions! I've always wanted to check out Stormy Records, but Saturday has traditionally been the day I make the trek out to Flat, Black and Circular in East Lansing then Encore in Ann Arbor on the way back to Detroit, time permitting, before I check out the festival. Perhaps I'll skip Ann Arbor this year and do Dearborn instead. Regardless, over the course of the weekend I'd like to ensure that I go to stores that carry Detroit techno, since Detroit is still the best place for me to shop for it. On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Mike Taylor disconihil...@gmail.com mailto:disconihil...@gmail.com wrote: You definitely want to hit Stormy, but make sure you get there before the weekend because they close on Sunday and Monday that weekend. If you get in touch with Windy she will go out of her way to give you a comprehensive list of the remaining record stores in Detroit. Record Collector closed their doors earlier this year. m On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Daniel Bean daniel.b...@bbc.co.uk mailto:daniel.b...@bbc.co.uk wrote: I’ve never found much IDM in Detroit but for those other genres I’d recommend the following spots for vinyl (can’t really comment on CDs): Stormy Records in Dearborn Goth/Punk + plenty more rock vinyl Record Collector in Ferndale I’ve found quite a lot of very good condition old techno 12”s here over the years People’s Records on Woodward Quite a random mix of industrial, old techno and drum and bass (e.g. Reinforced) can be found in the dollar bins but you’ve got to dig Street Corner in Oak Park Found plenty of old techno here + they sell quite a lot of CDs *From:*Darnistle McKuik [mailto:darnis...@gmail.com mailto:darnis...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 09 May 2013 16:21 *To:* 313@hyperreal.org mailto:313@hyperreal.org *Subject:* Re: (313) Movement, Music and Detroit Techno- especially Detroit-related Drum n Bass Goth/Punk IDM I prefer CDs, but I do buy vinyl as well. On May 8, 2013 2:34 PM, Darnistle McKuik darnis...@gmail.com mailto:darnis...@gmail.com wrote: So it looks like I will be going to the festival again this year!! YAY!!! I can hardly wait! As always, shopping for music is de rigueur. That said, other than Detroit Threads and Melodies and Memories, can any of you local peeps recommend other stores worth checking out? Have any new stores of interest opened to fill the void? http://www.bbc.co.uk http://www.bbc.co.uk This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. -
RE: (313) Movement Line Up
Not too shabby. That is only one day worth of music as well. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:12:55 -0600 From: cybo...@gmail.com To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Movement Line Up Okay, this is better than expected!!! Headliners = Public Enemy :: Lil Louis :: The Wizard http://www.movement.us/?page_id=8 ~David
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Good start. I'm bemused by whether Major Lazer will bring it pon de floor :) But for the remainder I still want more local content than we have seen in the last couple of years. fh - Not too shabby. That is only one day worth of music as well. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:12:55 -0600 From: cybo...@gmail.com To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Movement Line Up Okay, this is better than expected!!! Headliners = Public Enemy :: Lil Louis :: The Wizard http://www.movement.us/?page_id=8 ~David
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For a 3 day festival of this caliber, you can't argue with the price. Though i have a bone to pick with the Shorecrest. A double room is up to $130 a night. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: WanTickets has a couple of links up for Festival tickets already. One is for VIP and the other is an early-bird special - a weekend pass for $35.00 (about £24, UK'ers): http://www.wantickets.com/EventDetail.aspx?e_id=54349 Gotta hurry though - deadline for purchase at that price is 8:45 AM EDT next Monday morning, March 23rd! (Nothing like being put on the spot - I hadn't even thought about plane flights yet) - Greg
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Does anyone know what a VIP pass entails? Doesn't say much on want tickets... -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:05 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement Festival pre-sale - $35 early-bird special For a 3 day festival of this caliber, you can't argue with the price. Though i have a bone to pick with the Shorecrest. A double room is up to $130 a night. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: WanTickets has a couple of links up for Festival tickets already. One is for VIP and the other is an early-bird special - a weekend pass for $35.00 (about £24, UK'ers): http://www.wantickets.com/EventDetail.aspx?e_id=54349 Gotta hurry though - deadline for purchase at that price is 8:45 AM EDT next Monday morning, March 23rd! (Nothing like being put on the spot - I hadn't even thought about plane flights yet) - Greg
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you get to be teabagged by your superstar dj of choice On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Holly Macdonald-Korth hko...@jwkorth.com wrote: Does anyone know what a VIP pass entails? Doesn't say much on want tickets... -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:05 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement Festival pre-sale - $35 early-bird special For a 3 day festival of this caliber, you can't argue with the price. Though i have a bone to pick with the Shorecrest. A double room is up to $130 a night. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: WanTickets has a couple of links up for Festival tickets already. One is for VIP and the other is an early-bird special - a weekend pass for $35.00 (about £24, UK'ers): http://www.wantickets.com/EventDetail.aspx?e_id=54349 Gotta hurry though - deadline for purchase at that price is 8:45 AM EDT next Monday morning, March 23rd! (Nothing like being put on the spot - I hadn't even thought about plane flights yet) - Greg -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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Well, then I'm in... -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer [mailto:cpe1704...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:23 PM To: Holly Macdonald-Korth Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement Festival pre-sale - $35 early-bird special you get to be teabagged by your superstar dj of choice On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Holly Macdonald-Korth hko...@jwkorth.com wrote: Does anyone know what a VIP pass entails? Doesn't say much on want tickets... -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:05 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement Festival pre-sale - $35 early-bird special For a 3 day festival of this caliber, you can't argue with the price. Though i have a bone to pick with the Shorecrest. A double room is up to $130 a night. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: WanTickets has a couple of links up for Festival tickets already. One is for VIP and the other is an early-bird special - a weekend pass for $35.00 (about £24, UK'ers): http://www.wantickets.com/EventDetail.aspx?e_id=54349 Gotta hurry though - deadline for purchase at that price is 8:45 AM EDT next Monday morning, March 23rd! (Nothing like being put on the spot - I hadn't even thought about plane flights yet) - Greg -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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Michael Kuszynski wrote: I saw a pretty sane looking guy in his forties standing in the lawn in front of the Hawtin close out on Sunday, and was curious what the deal was. Kind of looked like Ned Flanders but not weird. I've been known to see the dawn in after late night Richie sets, and I'll be 50 in 5 months. gulp I don't look like Ned Flanders, but when I've buzzed my hair down super-short I've been known to be called Uncle Fester ;) - Greg
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don't know, but its good to see some old fogies down with the dubstep : ) Rav -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 May 2008 22:10 To: fab. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement Pics i am going to regret asking this, because i should probably know, but does anybody know who the fogies are in this pic: http://www.residentadvisor.net/photo-view.aspx?set=3869i=dsc09817.jpg they give me hope that maybe i can still do something that people will pay attention to even though i am relatively old On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:43 PM, fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi there, there are several galleries from Movement over at Resident Advisor, as well as from Soul Skate (links on the left): http://www.residentadvisor.net/photo-gallery.aspx?set=3868 enjoy -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm
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Here are some of the pictures I took this year: http://www.flickr.com/photos/technochick/ 1300 pictures if you're bored. Enjoy!! On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:43 PM, fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi there, there are several galleries from Movement over at Resident Advisor, as well as from Soul Skate (links on the left): http://www.residentadvisor.net/photo-gallery.aspx?set=3868 enjoy -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com
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says a lot about dubstep if you ask me. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't know, but its good to see some old fogies down with the dubstep : ) Rav -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 May 2008 22:10 To: fab. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement Pics i am going to regret asking this, because i should probably know, but does anybody know who the fogies are in this pic: http://www.residentadvisor.net/photo-view.aspx?set=3869i=dsc09817.jpg they give me hope that maybe i can still do something that people will pay attention to even though i am relatively old On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:43 PM, fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi there, there are several galleries from Movement over at Resident Advisor, as well as from Soul Skate (links on the left): http://www.residentadvisor.net/photo-gallery.aspx?set=3868 enjoy -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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Frank Glazer wrote: says a lot about dubstep if you ask me. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't know, but its good to see some old fogies down with the dubstep : ) Rav Interesting - what does dubstep have to do with anything? Unless they cracked into it when I wasn't listening (entirely possible, btw, as I didn't see the entire set) jeff
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On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: says a lot about dubstep if you ask me. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't know, but its good to see some old fogies down with the dubstep : ) Weren't we just complaining about old fogeys being the only ones into techno? ;) -- matt kane's brain biweekly techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org
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1. Maybe he just liked the T-Shirt? 2. there are 2 kinds of fogies -- those that stopped buying new music once they had a kid and bought a house, and those of us who are addicted to hearing new music. We, the latter fogies, manage to stay hep and groovy. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't know, but its good to see some old fogies down with the dubstep : ) Rav
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1. true true 2. groovy old fogies in the house, hollaar ! hollar ! -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 May 2008 14:03 To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Movement Pics 1. Maybe he just liked the T-Shirt? 2. there are 2 kinds of fogies -- those that stopped buying new music once they had a kid and bought a house, and those of us who are addicted to hearing new music. We, the latter fogies, manage to stay hep and groovy. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't know, but its good to see some old fogies down with the dubstep : ) Rav To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm
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52 in September - still buying what I can afford to buy on an ex-GM worker 's (now part-time college prof) pension. Thank God for working wives!!! :-) jeff -- Original message -- From: Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. true true 2. groovy old fogies in the house, hollaar ! hollar ! -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 May 2008 14:03 To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Movement Pics 1. Maybe he just liked the T-Shirt? 2. there are 2 kinds of fogies -- those that stopped buying new music once they had a kid and bought a house, and those of us who are addicted to hearing new music. We, the latter fogies, manage to stay hep and groovy. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't know, but its good to see some old fogies down with the dubstep : ) Rav To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm
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I spaced his Skull Disco T and was just thiking about the set they played. My bad. jeff -- Original message -- From: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. Maybe he just liked the T-Shirt? 2. there are 2 kinds of fogies -- those that stopped buying new music once they had a kid and bought a house, and those of us who are addicted to hearing new music. We, the latter fogies, manage to stay hep and groovy. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't know, but its good to see some old fogies down with the dubstep : ) Rav
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easy pops : ) about 10 years behind you. Likewise I cant afford to buy too much. Last techno I bought was B12 - Last Days of Silence, good to see the UK coming with releases this strong. off topic bit, keeping up with the youngers with some of the techy dubstep 2562, Pinch Berlin dubby dubstep Scuba and d/ling grime mixes Rav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 May 2008 15:13 To: Mann, Ravinder; kent williams; list 313 Subject: RE: (313) Movement Pics 52 in September - still buying what I can afford to buy on an ex-GM worker 's (now part-time college prof) pension. Thank God for working wives!!! :-) jeff -- Original message -- From: Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. true true 2. groovy old fogies in the house, hollaar ! hollar ! -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 May 2008 14:03 To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Movement Pics 1. Maybe he just liked the T-Shirt? 2. there are 2 kinds of fogies -- those that stopped buying new music once they had a kid and bought a house, and those of us who are addicted to hearing new music. We, the latter fogies, manage to stay hep and groovy. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't know, but its good to see some old fogies down with the dubstep : ) Rav To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm
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I'm fine with all you chilluns - just stay the f^%$ of of my lawn, and for God's sake, get rid of those troll dolls and pacifiers. -- Original message -- From: Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] easy pops : ) about 10 years behind you. Likewise I cant afford to buy too much. Last techno I bought was B12 - Last Days of Silence, good to see the UK coming with releases this strong. off topic bit, keeping up with the youngers with some of the techy dubstep 2562, Pinch Berlin dubby dubstep Scuba and d/ling grime mixes Rav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 May 2008 15:13 To: Mann, Ravinder; kent williams; list 313 Subject: RE: (313) Movement Pics 52 in September - still buying what I can afford to buy on an ex-GM worker 's (now part-time college prof) pension. Thank God for working wives!!! :-) jeff -- Original message -- From: Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. true true 2. groovy old fogies in the house, hollaar ! hollar ! -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 May 2008 14:03 To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Movement Pics 1. Maybe he just liked the T-Shirt? 2. there are 2 kinds of fogies -- those that stopped buying new music once they had a kid and bought a house, and those of us who are addicted to hearing new music. We, the latter fogies, manage to stay hep and groovy. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't know, but its good to see some old fogies down with the dubstep : ) Rav To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm
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i say a pretty sane looking guy in his forties standing in the lawn in front of the hawtin close out on sunday, and was curious what the deal was. kind of looked like ned flanders but not weird. On 5/30/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fine with all you chilluns - just stay the f^%$ of of my lawn, and for God's sake, get rid of those troll dolls and pacifiers. -- Original message -- From: Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] easy pops : ) about 10 years behind you. Likewise I cant afford to buy too much. Last techno I bought was B12 - Last Days of Silence, good to see the UK coming with releases this strong. off topic bit, keeping up with the youngers with some of the techy dubstep 2562, Pinch Berlin dubby dubstep Scuba and d/ling grime mixes Rav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 May 2008 15:13 To: Mann, Ravinder; kent williams; list 313 Subject: RE: (313) Movement Pics 52 in September - still buying what I can afford to buy on an ex-GM worker 's (now part-time college prof) pension. Thank God for working wives!!! :-) jeff -- Original message -- From: Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. true true 2. groovy old fogies in the house, hollaar ! hollar ! -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 May 2008 14:03 To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Movement Pics 1. Maybe he just liked the T-Shirt? 2. there are 2 kinds of fogies -- those that stopped buying new music once they had a kid and bought a house, and those of us who are addicted to hearing new music. We, the latter fogies, manage to stay hep and groovy. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't know, but its good to see some old fogies down with the dubstep : ) Rav To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
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Michael Kuszynski wrote: i say a pretty sane looking guy in his forties standing in the lawn in front of the hawtin close out on sunday, and was curious what the deal was. kind of looked like ned flanders but not weird. 'twarn't me. I'm in my fifties and I can still kick Ned's can. Nothing against Richie, but with C2 a few feet down the way, the Hawtin tent is not the lawn I'd be guarding. jeff
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what do you mean you wondered what the deal was??? On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i say a pretty sane looking guy in his forties standing in the lawn in front of the hawtin close out on sunday, and was curious what the deal was. kind of looked like ned flanders but not weird. On 5/30/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fine with all you chilluns - just stay the f^%$ of of my lawn, and for God's sake, get rid of those troll dolls and pacifiers. -- Original message -- From: Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] easy pops : ) about 10 years behind you. Likewise I cant afford to buy too much. Last techno I bought was B12 - Last Days of Silence, good to see the UK coming with releases this strong. off topic bit, keeping up with the youngers with some of the techy dubstep 2562, Pinch Berlin dubby dubstep Scuba and d/ling grime mixes Rav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 May 2008 15:13 To: Mann, Ravinder; kent williams; list 313 Subject: RE: (313) Movement Pics 52 in September - still buying what I can afford to buy on an ex-GM worker 's (now part-time college prof) pension. Thank God for working wives!!! :-) jeff -- Original message -- From: Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. true true 2. groovy old fogies in the house, hollaar ! hollar ! -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 May 2008 14:03 To: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Movement Pics 1. Maybe he just liked the T-Shirt? 2. there are 2 kinds of fogies -- those that stopped buying new music once they had a kid and bought a house, and those of us who are addicted to hearing new music. We, the latter fogies, manage to stay hep and groovy. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't know, but its good to see some old fogies down with the dubstep : ) Rav To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what do you mean you wondered what the deal was??? Bouncers don't let in non-beautiful people without some interesting reason. -- matt kane's brain biweekly techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org
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Nice pics- gives my nasty old corpuscles a charge. I may be old, but I ain't dead... Jeffrey Richards wrote: Take that 313...Mr Siko isn't the only one who can find that Paxahau dancers! http://www.residentadvisor.net/photo-view.aspx?set=3868i=014.jpg and once again, no one is arguing with the fishnets. Jeff --- fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi there, there are several galleries from Movement over at Resident Advisor, as well as from Soul Skate (links on the left): http://www.residentadvisor.net/photo-gallery.aspx?set=3868 enjoy
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Matt Kane's Brain wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what do you mean you wondered what the deal was??? Bouncers don't let in non-beautiful people without some interesting reason. Those bouncers (and prettier people) all have dads and grandads - or did, at some point. And a lawn can be anywhere a disoriented, post-fifty techno fan decides it to be. jeff
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Yes... I thought everyone had heard of Delta 9 and Danny tha Wildchild. I read over almost all of the names...probably only 5 or 6 that I recognized. Most of these guys are the locals in each city represented. Mark Anthony was a pretty good disco house DJ in the late 90s...But I am going to assume that most of this is [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is one of them things where each DJ gets an hour, with the exception of the headlines who probably get 2. I see no signs of Paul Johnson, DJ Slip, DJ Funk, Mark Almaria, or Terry Mullan, who used to be all over Chicago's rave fliers along side Delta 9 and DtWC. This appears to be typical behavior of the mid to late 90s rave fliers, with out all the talent and big names. With 19 stages and 3 days of work, I have a feeling that there is going to be a huge let down and a massive sucking sound. A lot of production companies are going to lose $$. Jeff --- Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should i worry if i really never have heard of any of the DJ' s on there? kj On 28 mei 2008, at 21:26, Carlos De Brito wrote: wow! that is so 1994. Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:11:35 -0400 Von: Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: Re: (313) Movement has competition... oops. meant to say more than that. ROFLMAO this is good to see. it reminds us that as awful as the demf lineup was this year (moby, cool kids, other nonsense) it could be infinitely worse. 2008/5/28 Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ROFLMAO 2008/5/28 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.raymondbaer.com/memf2008/memf2008dj.jpg m -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer
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u...aren't they Atomic Babies in real life? --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely. Personally I'm particularly looking forward to The Germ Vs. Vial, I hear they're the bomb. From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 May 2008 20:35 Should i worry if i really never have heard of any of the DJ' s on there?
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Alas, I haven't heard of them either! Of the all the many artists on the memf and the other Xemf link (deleted all the mails so I can't remember what that was) I had heard of exactly one on each (and I did look properly as a sort of game). Then, when I read the description on memf, I realised that their Karizma was not the same one I was thinking of! Of course it obvious that the line ups were local or US national rave DJs and I wouldn't have heard of them. But I'm surprised that you were able to give a decent analysis of the line ups, I'm now so far into my own bunker on these things it just looked like a nightmare to me. Don't take that the wrong way, nothing wrong with knowing a bit more about what other people are actually interested in (even if it's not your thing) rather than just being horrified like me! From: Jeffrey Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 May 2008 07:14 u...aren't they Atomic Babies in real life?
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Or, alternative interpretation: many of us are simply getting old and this *is* the new consensus for what's considered progressive in dance music in 2008. The fact that we don't like it merely reinforces the notion that we are behaving like every other generation of older people who think that it was 'never this bad' in their day ... [I could be wrong and I hope I am]. I do take heart that even the design of the flyers is so low-brow, it's not even ironic! -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:34 PM To: Carlos De Brito Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement has competition... but see, that's the thing. it's so NOT 1994 at all. it's so very 2008 rave kiddies. it's this bizarre phenomenon that seems to be happening in the youth culture in the US that the death throes of the rave scene circa 2000 are being replayed over and over again with complete disregard for the contemporary adult electronic music industry. the music focuses primarily on hard house and hardcore. what's even stranger is that trance (ala tiesto and his ilk) doesn't even seem to be that popular amongst these rave kiddies. i'd love to really delve into some research, but i think my brain would explode from the dumb. On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Carlos De Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow! that is so 1994. Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:11:35 -0400 Von: Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: Re: (313) Movement has competition... oops. meant to say more than that. ROFLMAO this is good to see. it reminds us that as awful as the demf lineup was this year (moby, cool kids, other nonsense) it could be infinitely worse. 2008/5/28 Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ROFLMAO 2008/5/28 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.raymondbaer.com/memf2008/memf2008dj.jpg m -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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No in fact I think you're hitting the nail on the head. I heard once, entertainment for the current generation is often a threat to the previous generation. I wonder how young the youngest list member is. Particularly from Detroit. I'd be floored if there were any teenagers on 313. Maybe, though. On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, alternative interpretation: many of us are simply getting old and this *is* the new consensus for what's considered progressive in dance music in 2008. The fact that we don't like it merely reinforces the notion that we are behaving like every other generation of older people who think that it was 'never this bad' in their day ... [I could be wrong and I hope I am]. I do take heart that even the design of the flyers is so low-brow, it's not even ironic!
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i am 25 and i imagine i may be towards the younger set, though not by too much. On 5/29/08, Thor Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No in fact I think you're hitting the nail on the head. I heard once, entertainment for the current generation is often a threat to the previous generation. I wonder how young the youngest list member is. Particularly from Detroit. I'd be floored if there were any teenagers on 313. Maybe, though. On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, alternative interpretation: many of us are simply getting old and this *is* the new consensus for what's considered progressive in dance music in 2008. The fact that we don't like it merely reinforces the notion that we are behaving like every other generation of older people who think that it was 'never this bad' in their day ... [I could be wrong and I hope I am]. I do take heart that even the design of the flyers is so low-brow, it's not even ironic! -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
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Lat time I asked this Tom Cox was the youngest. My challenge was that we were all over 25. I think I may have been right. :) robin... On 29 May 2008, at 15:50, Thor Teague wrote: No in fact I think you're hitting the nail on the head. I heard once, entertainment for the current generation is often a threat to the previous generation. I wonder how young the youngest list member is. Particularly from Detroit. I'd be floored if there were any teenagers on 313. Maybe, though.
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On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:22 PM, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lat time I asked this Tom Cox was the youngest. My challenge was that we were all over 25. I think I may have been right. Youth is at a higher premium then ever. Corporations are lusting after brand loyalty as early as birth. 25-year-old consumers are already past their prime. We need to get middle school kids hooked into the 'subculture' advertising model and divided into the appropriate camps (preferably by 6th grade) in order to sustain our revenue feeding frenzy. -- matt kane's brain biweekly techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org
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I'm 20 but I just lurk On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:22 PM, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lat time I asked this Tom Cox was the youngest. My challenge was that we were all over 25. I think I may have been right. :) robin... On 29 May 2008, at 15:50, Thor Teague wrote: No in fact I think you're hitting the nail on the head. I heard once, entertainment for the current generation is often a threat to the previous generation. I wonder how young the youngest list member is. Particularly from Detroit. I'd be floored if there were any teenagers on 313. Maybe, though.
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robin wrote: Lat time I asked this Tom Cox was the youngest. My challenge was that we were all over 25. I think I may have been right. How about the 'over 50s'? j
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Hah hah TP on the telephone pic. I remember seeing him in Cleveland, OH. several years ago. That telephone handset monitoring get-up blew me away. Cheers, lrh -Original Message- From: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:44 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Movement Pics hi there, there are several galleries from Movement over at Resident Advisor, as well as from Soul Skate (links on the left): http://www.residentadvisor.net/photo-gallery.aspx?set=3868 enjoy
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i am going to regret asking this, because i should probably know, but does anybody know who the fogies are in this pic: http://www.residentadvisor.net/photo-view.aspx?set=3869i=dsc09817.jpg they give me hope that maybe i can still do something that people will pay attention to even though i am relatively old On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:43 PM, fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi there, there are several galleries from Movement over at Resident Advisor, as well as from Soul Skate (links on the left): http://www.residentadvisor.net/photo-gallery.aspx?set=3868 enjoy -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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I had 'the phone conversation' with TP a few years ago: 1. They don't break. A friend of his has made him a couple, and they last for years. Contrast and compare with DJ headphones. 2. When he mixes he's listening for high frequencies -- high hats etc so the lack of low end is no problem. In fact if you listen to what he's hearing through him, it's not very musical but it cuts through the onstage sonic hash and gives you a good idea of where the beat is. 3. It's a kind of trademark now, but it grew out of practicality. 4. He has loads of stories about people thinking he's talking on the phone when he's supposed to be dj'ing. On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Lee Herrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hah hah TP on the telephone pic. I remember seeing him in Cleveland, OH. several years ago. That telephone handset monitoring get-up blew me away. Cheers, lrh
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That looks like Chris McNamara (of Thinkbox?) on the left. He was my animation professor in college. Awesome guy. http://www.thinkbox.ca/ On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am going to regret asking this, because i should probably know, but does anybody know who the fogies are in this pic: http://www.residentadvisor.net/photo-view.aspx?set=3869i=dsc09817.jpg they give me hope that maybe i can still do something that people will pay attention to even though i am relatively old On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:43 PM, fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi there, there are several galleries from Movement over at Resident Advisor, as well as from Soul Skate (links on the left): http://www.residentadvisor.net/photo-gallery.aspx?set=3868 enjoy -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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The guy on the right is named Walter Wasacz. He's a DJ and also a music reviewer for one of the newspapers, I think Real Detroit. Not sure who the guy on the left is.. And if you pay attention to the ages of most of the very famous DJs, they're all in their 40s-60s. On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am going to regret asking this, because i should probably know, but does anybody know who the fogies are in this pic: http://www.residentadvisor.net/photo-view.aspx?set=3869i=dsc09817.jpg they give me hope that maybe i can still do something that people will pay attention to even though i am relatively old On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:43 PM, fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi there, there are several galleries from Movement over at Resident Advisor, as well as from Soul Skate (links on the left): http://www.residentadvisor.net/photo-gallery.aspx?set=3868 enjoy -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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Yup - he is 1/3 of Nospectacle ( http://nospectacle.com/ ), 2/3 of which appear in the pic from Resident Advisor. Thomas Ainslie wrote: That looks like Chris McNamara (of Thinkbox?) on the left. He was my animation professor in college. Awesome guy. http://www.thinkbox.ca/ On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am going to regret asking this, because i should probably know, but does anybody know who the fogies are in this pic: http://www.residentadvisor.net/photo-view.aspx?set=3869i=dsc09817.jpg
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Yes, that's Chris McNamara of Thinkbox on the left. He played as part of nospectacle on Saturday. Bill On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Thomas Ainslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That looks like Chris McNamara (of Thinkbox?) on the left. He was my animation professor in college. Awesome guy. http://www.thinkbox.ca/ On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am going to regret asking this, because i should probably know, but does anybody know who the fogies are in this pic: http://www.residentadvisor.net/photo-view.aspx?set=3869i=dsc09817.jpg -- http://www.billvanloo.com || http://www.chromedecay.org
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Sure, I'll be 55 in a few months. I got Techno for a 40th birthday present... theREALmxyzptlk wrote: robin wrote: Lat time I asked this Tom Cox was the youngest. My challenge was that we were all over 25. I think I may have been right. How about the 'over 50s'? j
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Take that 313...Mr Siko isn't the only one who can find that Paxahau dancers! http://www.residentadvisor.net/photo-view.aspx?set=3868i=014.jpg and once again, no one is arguing with the fishnets. Jeff --- fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi there, there are several galleries from Movement over at Resident Advisor, as well as from Soul Skate (links on the left): http://www.residentadvisor.net/photo-gallery.aspx?set=3868 enjoy
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The main stage was basically the small version of the Grateful Dead concert rig, which Meyer Sound and the Dead co-evolved through about 25 years of hard work. It is exceptionally efficient and clean and with proper EQing -- someone take a bow -- it works for electronic as well as acoustic/amplified music. The main problem was that when it was pushed too hard the bass got all mushy and drowned out the midrange in the bowl, which was a function of too much SPL and not any kind of distortion; believe me, at no time was that system really working all that hard. But at moments -- Dan Bell's live work with the crisp sound of the analog gear and the middle of Mark Farina's set are the two that come to mind -- it was really about as good as you can get with open air concert sound. They tried hard, really hard, in the Underground stage, with an unusual arrangement of stacks flanking the stage and a curved bank of stacks along the walls. There was certainly enough power to overcome the un-overcomeable deficiencies of a concrete box, but then the rest is left up to the DJ, and only Punisher, who really knows how to work that room with her sparse but potent beats, got the idea right. Although when TP dropped Plastic Dreams to good effect I knew he knew as well, but his kind of melodic house doesn't work sonically in that situation. The rest I heard in there was from forgettable to atrocious, the less said the better. The waterfront stage was a modification of last year's with the high end now floating in air and some super-modern compact bass bins that really sounded great especially with the Newcleus and BMG. Didn't spend hardly any time in the tents, but there was serious gear there too. Paxahau certainly spares no effort on staging, sound and lighting, so good on them for that. fh - what did you all think of the stages. i thought, unfortunately, the real detroit underground stage had weak sound, and the main stage had great broad range. the hawtin tent was really crisp and rich, but i actually thought the stuff coming out of the pioneer pacha stage might have been great too, though i did not venture into it to listen to performances. -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
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ROFLMAO 2008/5/28 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.raymondbaer.com/memf2008/memf2008dj.jpg m -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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oops. meant to say more than that. ROFLMAO this is good to see. it reminds us that as awful as the demf lineup was this year (moby, cool kids, other nonsense) it could be infinitely worse. 2008/5/28 Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ROFLMAO 2008/5/28 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.raymondbaer.com/memf2008/memf2008dj.jpg m -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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wow! that is so 1994. Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:11:35 -0400 Von: Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: Re: (313) Movement has competition... oops. meant to say more than that. ROFLMAO this is good to see. it reminds us that as awful as the demf lineup was this year (moby, cool kids, other nonsense) it could be infinitely worse. 2008/5/28 Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ROFLMAO 2008/5/28 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.raymondbaer.com/memf2008/memf2008dj.jpg m -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer
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but see, that's the thing. it's so NOT 1994 at all. it's so very 2008 rave kiddies. it's this bizarre phenomenon that seems to be happening in the youth culture in the US that the death throes of the rave scene circa 2000 are being replayed over and over again with complete disregard for the contemporary adult electronic music industry. the music focuses primarily on hard house and hardcore. what's even stranger is that trance (ala tiesto and his ilk) doesn't even seem to be that popular amongst these rave kiddies. i'd love to really delve into some research, but i think my brain would explode from the dumb. On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Carlos De Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow! that is so 1994. Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:11:35 -0400 Von: Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: Re: (313) Movement has competition... oops. meant to say more than that. ROFLMAO this is good to see. it reminds us that as awful as the demf lineup was this year (moby, cool kids, other nonsense) it could be infinitely worse. 2008/5/28 Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ROFLMAO 2008/5/28 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.raymondbaer.com/memf2008/memf2008dj.jpg m -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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Should i worry if i really never have heard of any of the DJ' s on there? kj On 28 mei 2008, at 21:26, Carlos De Brito wrote: wow! that is so 1994. Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:11:35 -0400 Von: Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: Re: (313) Movement has competition... oops. meant to say more than that. ROFLMAO this is good to see. it reminds us that as awful as the demf lineup was this year (moby, cool kids, other nonsense) it could be infinitely worse. 2008/5/28 Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ROFLMAO 2008/5/28 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.raymondbaer.com/memf2008/memf2008dj.jpg m -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer
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On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's this bizarre phenomenon that seems to be happening in the youth culture in the US that the death throes of the rave scene circa 2000 are being replayed over and over again with complete disregard for the contemporary adult electronic music industry. the music focuses primarily on hard house and hardcore. What universe are you from where this kind of this actually went away for a while? DOWN WITH THIS SORT OF THING -- matt kane's brain biweekly techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org
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On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should i worry if i really never have heard of any of the DJ' s on there? No. -- matt kane's brain biweekly techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org
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On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What universe are you from where this kind of this actually went away for a while? Pittsburgh. Sh*t's weird here. -- http://www.mamapop.com http://kdiddy.org
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i didn't say it went away??? but kelly is right, to an extent, in pittsburgh big raves like that are pretty much over and have only seen a slight resurgence due to one particular acid-casualty promoter who markets to the little rave kiddies. On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's this bizarre phenomenon that seems to be happening in the youth culture in the US that the death throes of the rave scene circa 2000 are being replayed over and over again with complete disregard for the contemporary adult electronic music industry. the music focuses primarily on hard house and hardcore. What universe are you from where this kind of this actually went away for a while? DOWN WITH THIS SORT OF THING -- matt kane's brain biweekly techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i didn't say it went away??? Well, you said resurgence, whereas in New England there's been a steady stream. (without the 25 stages though) -- matt kane's brain biweekly techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org
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Matt Kane's Brain wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's this bizarre phenomenon that seems to be happening in the youth culture in the US that the death throes of the rave scene circa 2000 are being replayed over and over again with complete disregard for the contemporary adult electronic music industry. the music focuses primarily on hard house and hardcore. What universe are you from where this kind of this actually went away for a while? Really. They were handing out flyers for this one years ago at DEMF. Not *quite* as obscure as MEMF, but W(E)TF? http://wemf.com/ jeff
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i didn't even say resurgence in the original post. i said replayed over and over. go read my OP again. i only said resurgence specifically with regard to pittsburgh. On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i didn't say it went away??? Well, you said resurgence, whereas in New England there's been a steady stream. (without the 25 stages though) -- matt kane's brain biweekly techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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yeah, but my point was that it never really died all the way, it just mutated (in one respect) into this bizarre youth culture that seems like a hilarious and horrible caricature of US (candy) rave in the late 90s On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oops, it was 'death throes' that tipped me off. On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i didn't even say resurgence in the original post. i said replayed over and over. go read my OP again. i only said resurgence specifically with regard to pittsburgh. On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i didn't say it went away??? Well, you said resurgence, whereas in New England there's been a steady stream. (without the 25 stages though) -- matt kane's brain biweekly techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- matt kane's brain biweekly techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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Or else: should one worry if he/she actually does know any of the DJs on there? G On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 09:34:56PM +0200, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: Should i worry if i really never have heard of any of the DJ' s on there? kj On 28 mei 2008, at 21:26, Carlos De Brito wrote: wow! that is so 1994. -- Guilherme Menegon Arantes, PhD São Paulo, Brasil __
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I saw the Atomic Babies twice. Once before I knew better and the other before Juan Atkins! On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Guilherme Menegon Arantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or else: should one worry if he/she actually does know any of the DJs on there? G On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 09:34:56PM +0200, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: Should i worry if i really never have heard of any of the DJ' s on there? kj On 28 mei 2008, at 21:26, Carlos De Brito wrote: wow! that is so 1994. -- Guilherme Menegon Arantes, PhD São Paulo, Brasil __ -- matt kane's brain biweekly techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org
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Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/28/2008 02:33:33 PM: the contemporary adult electronic music industry. dear lord Frank, what the hell is that??? ;-) MEK
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On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the contemporary adult electronic music industry. dear lord Frank, what the hell is that??? Kruder and Dorfmeister without the weed. -- matt kane's brain biweekly techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org
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as amusing as it is, and as unfortunate as the talent and the promotional individuals are, at least it helps get kids into raving instead of indie rock. On 5/28/08, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the contemporary adult electronic music industry. dear lord Frank, what the hell is that??? Kruder and Dorfmeister without the weed. -- matt kane's brain biweekly techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
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news flash - they're into both which is perfectly ok there's lots of great indie rock made by very nice people MEK Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/28/2008 05:00:59 PM: as amusing as it is, and as unfortunate as the talent and the promotional individuals are, at least it helps get kids into raving instead of indie rock. On 5/28/08, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the contemporary adult electronic music industry. dear lord Frank, what the hell is that??? Kruder and Dorfmeister without the weed. -- matt kane's brain biweekly techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
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nice or not, i know who i would rather brainwash the youth of america, and it involves buttons and knobs. On 5/28/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: news flash - they're into both which is perfectly ok there's lots of great indie rock made by very nice people MEK Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/28/2008 05:00:59 PM: as amusing as it is, and as unfortunate as the talent and the promotional individuals are, at least it helps get kids into raving instead of indie rock. On 5/28/08, Matt Kane's Brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the contemporary adult electronic music industry. dear lord Frank, what the hell is that??? Kruder and Dorfmeister without the weed. -- matt kane's brain biweekly techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY -- --- Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.planerecordings.com New York, NY
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On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nice or not, i know who i would rather brainwash the youth of america, and it involves buttons and knobs. Anyone doing any brainwashing is a knob, yes. -- matt kane's brain biweekly techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org
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Do people get 20 minute slots or something... I cant quite believe they get so many people to play over 3 days.. Matt Kane's Brain wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nice or not, i know who i would rather brainwash the youth of america, and it involves buttons and knobs. Anyone doing any brainwashing is a knob, yes. -- Placid on the t'interweb - http://www.acid-house.net Placid on myspace - http://www.myspace.com/placid_88 Placid's Muzik Jamboree - http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=12854449841 Placid live on internet radio. Alternate Thursdays http://www.future-music.co.uk: Future Music 8 - 10pm http://www.purple-radio.co.uk: Purple Radio 6 - 8pm
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hell, half the audience is on meth so the faster they play the better MEK Placid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/28/2008 05:17:32 PM: Do people get 20 minute slots or something... I cant quite believe they get so many people to play over 3 days.. Matt Kane's Brain wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Michael Kuszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nice or not, i know who i would rather brainwash the youth of america, and it involves buttons and knobs. Anyone doing any brainwashing is a knob, yes. -- Placid on the t'interweb - http://www.acid-house.net Placid on myspace - http://www.myspace.com/placid_88 Placid's Muzik Jamboree - http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=12854449841 Placid live on internet radio. Alternate Thursdays http://www.future-music.co.uk: Future Music 8 - 10pm http://www.purple-radio.co.uk: Purple Radio 6 - 8pm
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Absolutely. Personally I'm particularly looking forward to The Germ Vs. Vial, I hear they're the bomb. From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 May 2008 20:35 Should i worry if i really never have heard of any of the DJ' s on there?
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AMEN! -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 3:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Movement has competition... oops. meant to say more than that. ROFLMAO this is good to see. it reminds us that as awful as the demf lineup was this year (moby, cool kids, other nonsense) it could be infinitely worse. 2008/5/28 Frank Glazer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ROFLMAO 2008/5/28 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.raymondbaer.com/memf2008/memf2008dj.jpg m -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
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To be fair, there are 'some' small local events that do better than what you see on that flyer however they are extremely few and very far between. For the most part though, Frank hit it dead on. At least here in the New England area, local events seem to have musicaly gotten stuck in 2000 and never managed to break free. Promoters tend to book the known quantities to be sure that they bring in some numbers. Most people here only know (and show up to hear) the acts that they've already been exposed to. This is one of the main reasons why I'm glad that there are a couple of us doing regular college shows in the area. Promoters generally won't bring unknown acts to this area. So, if you can't bring Mohammad to the mountain bring the mountain to Mohammad... -ant- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matt Kane's Brain Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 4:20 PM To: Guilherme Menegon Arantes Cc: Klaas-Jan Jongsma; Carlos De Brito; Frank Glazer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement has competition... I saw the Atomic Babies twice. Once before I knew better and the other before Juan Atkins! On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Guilherme Menegon Arantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or else: should one worry if he/she actually does know any of the DJs on there? G On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 09:34:56PM +0200, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: Should i worry if i really never have heard of any of the DJ' s on there? kj On 28 mei 2008, at 21:26, Carlos De Brito wrote: wow! that is so 1994. -- Guilherme Menegon Arantes, PhD São Paulo, Brasil __ -- matt kane's brain biweekly techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org
Re: (313) movement stage sound system reviews
Personally, I thought the Red Bull/Myspace stage (riverfront) kicked the biggest share of tail this time out. The Pioneer stage was also really, really nice - Andy Toth's set was quite memorable there for me. When there wasn't a monkey blowing out the bass signals at the Beatport tent (rarely was that the case when I walked over there), the sound was good. I avoided most of the few artists I was interested in hearing on that side of Hart Plaza simply because they couldn't be HEARD. I liked Guillaume and the Coatu Dumonts' set. Hauling up those bottoms and lining the top of the underground stage was a good idea; it opened up some of the highs and cleared out some of the 'basement mud.' Main stage was fine as long as the bass wasn't pushed too hard/signal overcompressed/ over whatever the f*^ one does to blow the entire mids and most of the highs out of range (maybe they heard them in Windsor?). I can do boom-boom as well as the next person, but way too often it was just a complete waste of what, by all appearances, was some fine technology. Mind you, nothing came close to that wonderful Funktion One setup at the riverfront last year, but everything else was definitely raised a notch. The canopies (vs. the tents) were good ideas too. Let's talk numbers. What I noticed is that there were more people EARLY on Saturday than I've ever seen...and less people mid-day and into the evening on all three nights (not that I stayed all 3). Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looked like a low turnout to me. And, to be honest, despite some nice sets, it wasn't the most memorable fest. I always go. I hope I always will (?) jeff Michael Kuszynski wrote: what did you all think of the stages. i thought, unfortunately, the real detroit underground stage had weak sound, and the main stage had great broad range. the hawtin tent was really crisp and rich, but i actually thought the stuff coming out of the pioneer pacha stage might have been great too, though i did not venture into it to listen to performances.
Re: (313) Movement Vitamin Water Main Stage - line up and times
It's funnier with all of the question marks. Like they're not sure if Echospace will perform or if Moby will be playing at 10 or 12. On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 1:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maybe this is throwing gas on the fire but I'm sure some would like to know MOVEMENT 2008 DETROIT ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL ANNOUNCES LINEUP FOR vitaminwater MAIN STAGE Detroit, April 21, 2008 ? Paxahau, producers of MOVEMENT 2008, announces the line-up of artists set to appear on the vitaminwater Stage. For the third consecutive year, festival partner, GlacÈau vitaminwater is sponsoring the festival ? this will be their first year as the main stage sponsor. The vitaminwater Stage will showcase Moby on Saturday, May 24th from 10:00 pm to 12:00 am. vitaminwater was Paxahau's first supporting sponsor, stated Jason Huvaere, festival director. We love having vitaminwater on board because they truly understand what the Movement festival is all about ? great music, great energy and a great audience. This year's diverse and eclectic roster showcases established electronic acts and vanguard artists who exemplify the event's global fan appeal, confirming the Detroit festival as a destination for the international techno circuit. As a third year Movement sponsor, vitaminwater is proud to partner with musicians, DJ's, artists and other creative individuals who incorporate the product into their busy lifestyles as a simple way to stay healthy, explained Mari Lee, Director of Marketing for GlacÈau. Plus, we all need to stay hydrated while we dance the night away. about glacÈau it all started when one thirsty man named darius wanted better water, but couldn't find any worth drinking, so he decided to make his own. along came a guy from queens named mike (he's like darius' robin? but don't tell him that) and because mike has a gift for the gab, it's no wonder word got around, thus emerged glacÈau, a fresh new approach to bottled water. today glacÈau, the leader of the enhanced water category, is the maker of vitaminwater?, smartwater? and vitaminenergy?. Now with 750+ full and part-time employees, (that's a big holiday party) glacÈau is all about helping thirsty people like you hydrate responsibly with something truly good for your body. for more information visit www.glaceau.com. About Paxahau Since 1998 Paxahau has promoted electronic music and has grown to include a web archive, booking agency, record label and an event production company which produces an average of 20 events a year.? With a network of alliances and resources that span the globe, Paxahau has emerged as a premier promotions group within the electronic music industry.? Please visit myspace.com/detroitmusicfest to find the latest news about the festival as it develops. vitaminwater Stage Saturday, May 24th 2:00-4:00 pm TBC 4:00-5:30 pm Deepchord Presents Echospace ? live 5:30-7:00 pm Half Hawaii ? live 7:00-9:00 pm Zip 9:00-10:00 pm DBX ? live 10:00 pm ? 12:00 am ? Moby Sunday, May 25th 2:00-3:30 pm Keith Worthy 3:30-5:00 pm Alton Miller 5:00-7:00 pm Lawnchair Generals 7:00-9:00 pm Miles Maeda 9:00-11:00 pm Mark Farina 11:00 pm?? 12:00 am Carl Craig ? live Monday, May 26th 2:00-4:00 pm Rex Sepulveda - live 4:00-6:00 pm Cassy 6:00-7:00pm Cobblestone Jazz ? live 7:00-8:00 pm Paul Ritch ? live 8:00-9:00 pm Joris Voorn ? live 9:00-11:00 pm Oscar Mulero 11:00 pm ? 12:00 am Speedy J -live w/ Scott Pagano VJ
Re: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy)
That's good news at least... Movement 08 will also bring back the underground stage, where Paxahau?s involvement in the festival began. -- *matt chester 11th hour recordings* www.myspace.com/mattchester1 www.myspace.com/11thhourrecordings www.virb.com/mattchester www.11-hour.com
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I'm sure the Detroit purists won't agree, but if for some reason this festival congeals as the US's (other) large electronic music festival (besides WMC), I don't think it's a bad thing at all. I'm still scarred from the late 80s/90s when there was such strong animosity toward any kind of dance music. So getting Myspace sized visibility and year after year momentum can only be seen by me as a positive, as long as it doesn't completely betray its roots. And If I were to be completely pessimistic and assume that in 5 years whatever the festival evolves into only maintains 25% detroit musical presence, that would still be so insanely out of line with the greater dance/festival culture that I'd call it a success. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:21:28 PM Subject: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy) discuss: Detroit - May 24, 25 and 26th will bring Detroit alive with sounds from Movement 08: Detroit?s Electronic Music Festival in Hart Plaza with the Red Bull Music Academy, MySpace promotion and a higher level of production. Movement 08 also announces discounted tickets on sale now. The Red Bull Music Academy will join Movement 08 by producing a stage that reflects a broad range of musical talent from around the world. The Red Bull Music Academy Stage will replace the Pyramid Stage and include performances by: Newcleus, Egyptian Lover, Shawn Michaels, James Zabiela, Benny Bennassi, The Cool Kids,Girl Talk, DATABASS (featuring Godfather), Justin Kruse, Tech Itch and Dieselboy. Also joining this year as a media partner is the vastly popular, global online social networking site MySpace. Having grown over the previous years to become the largest online social network, MySpace is utilized by many artists and fans to connect and keep in touch with each other, adding an intimate element to the usual marketing channels. MySpace?s interest in working with the Movement Festival validates an already well known fact - Detroit?s Electronic Music Festival is an event that is continuing to grow and attract attention on a worldwide scale. After the last two years of progress and reviews the festival is getting some well deserved attention, notes festival director Jason Huvaere, there will be no question what?s happening in Detroit on Memorial Day weekend. In addition, this year?s event will increase the level of production regarding sound at the main stage and weather structures to protect attendees. Movement 08 will also bring back the underground stage, where Paxahau?s involvement in the festival began. We have taken great measures to bring the production to an even higher level, says Mike Fotias, Movement Production Manager, We understand that attendees come here expecting nothing but the best and we are determined to deliver. also there's this FREEP article http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080327/ENT04/803270434 MEK Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
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Five years? Do the math. There is, at the moment, only a 25% detroit musician presence on the posted list of artists playing With Dieselboy I think it's now dropped slightly below 25%. I'd like to know how you think James Zabiela (a DJ schooled by non other than Sasha of Sasha Digweed fame) and Benny Benassi (who's latest album Rock Rave is out on Ultra records) don't betray the roots of Detroit. Are you ok with this sort of thing? So next year if they have Pete Tong, Paul Van Dyk, and Paul Oakenfold you'd be alright with that - as long as they keep a Detroit stage. Yeah, I suppose if there's a little corner in Detroit where Detroit artists can play :-/ MEK Gil Yaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/28/2008 07:02:29 AM: I'm sure the Detroit purists won't agree, but if for some reason this festival congeals as the US's (other) large electronic music festival (besides WMC), I don't think it's a bad thing at all. I'm still scarred from the late 80s/90s when there was such strong animosity toward any kind of dance music. So getting Myspace sized visibility and year after year momentum can only be seen by me as a positive, as long as it doesn't completely betray its roots. And If I were to be completely pessimistic and assume that in 5 years whatever the festival evolves into only maintains 25% detroit musical presence, that would still be so insanely out of line with the greater dance/festival culture that I'd call it a success. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:21:28 PM Subject: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy) discuss: Detroit - May 24, 25 and 26th will bring Detroit alive with sounds from Movement 08: Detroit?s Electronic Music Festival in Hart Plaza with the Red Bull Music Academy, MySpace promotion and a higher level of production. Movement 08 also announces discounted tickets on sale now. The Red Bull Music Academy will join Movement 08 by producing a stage that reflects a broad range of musical talent from around the world. The Red Bull Music Academy Stage will replace the Pyramid Stage and include performances by: Newcleus, Egyptian Lover, Shawn Michaels, James Zabiela, Benny Bennassi, The Cool Kids,Girl Talk, DATABASS (featuring Godfather), Justin Kruse, Tech Itch and Dieselboy. Also joining this year as a media partner is the vastly popular, global online social networking site MySpace. Having grown over the previous years to become the largest online social network, MySpace is utilized by many artists and fans to connect and keep in touch with each other, adding an intimate element to the usual marketing channels. MySpace?s interest in working with the Movement Festival validates an already well known fact - Detroit?s Electronic Music Festival is an event that is continuing to grow and attract attention on a worldwide scale. After the last two years of progress and reviews the festival is getting some well deserved attention, notes festival director Jason Huvaere, there will be no question what?s happening in Detroit on Memorial Day weekend. In addition, this year?s event will increase the level of production regarding sound at the main stage and weather structures to protect attendees. Movement 08 will also bring back the underground stage, where Paxahau?s involvement in the festival began. We have taken great measures to bring the production to an even higher level, says Mike Fotias, Movement Production Manager, We understand that attendees come here expecting nothing but the best and we are determined to deliver. also there's this FREEP article http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080327/ENT04/803270434 MEK Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo. com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
RE: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy)
Virtually any festival of any note in the last few years has grown in this manner. The first few line-ups are always amazing, and then as it grows, costs escalate and other factors concerning the future viability of the project become prominent, and as such other, more commercial aspects get involved. It's also difficult to try to downscale such a project once it gets to a certain size. I think what Gil says has some pertinence - Miami is the only American electronic music festival of any note and that's got unfortunate associations. At least having something in Detroit is a worthwhile start. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2008 14:20 To: Gil Yaker Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy) Five years? Do the math. There is, at the moment, only a 25% detroit musician presence on the posted list of artists playing With Dieselboy I think it's now dropped slightly below 25%. I'd like to know how you think James Zabiela (a DJ schooled by non other than Sasha of Sasha Digweed fame) and Benny Benassi (who's latest album Rock Rave is out on Ultra records) don't betray the roots of Detroit. Are you ok with this sort of thing? So next year if they have Pete Tong, Paul Van Dyk, and Paul Oakenfold you'd be alright with that - as long as they keep a Detroit stage. Yeah, I suppose if there's a little corner in Detroit where Detroit artists can play :-/ MEK Gil Yaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/28/2008 07:02:29 AM: I'm sure the Detroit purists won't agree, but if for some reason this festival congeals as the US's (other) large electronic music festival (besides WMC), I don't think it's a bad thing at all. I'm still scarred from the late 80s/90s when there was such strong animosity toward any kind of dance music. So getting Myspace sized visibility and year after year momentum can only be seen by me as a positive, as long as it doesn't completely betray its roots. And If I were to be completely pessimistic and assume that in 5 years whatever the festival evolves into only maintains 25% detroit musical presence, that would still be so insanely out of line with the greater dance/festival culture that I'd call it a success. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:21:28 PM Subject: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy) discuss: Detroit - May 24, 25 and 26th will bring Detroit alive with sounds from Movement 08: Detroit?s Electronic Music Festival in Hart Plaza with the Red Bull Music Academy, MySpace promotion and a higher level of production. Movement 08 also announces discounted tickets on sale now. The Red Bull Music Academy will join Movement 08 by producing a stage that reflects a broad range of musical talent from around the world. The Red Bull Music Academy Stage will replace the Pyramid Stage and include performances by: Newcleus, Egyptian Lover, Shawn Michaels, James Zabiela, Benny Bennassi, The Cool Kids,Girl Talk, DATABASS (featuring Godfather), Justin Kruse, Tech Itch and Dieselboy. Also joining this year as a media partner is the vastly popular, global online social networking site MySpace. Having grown over the previous years to become the largest online social network, MySpace is utilized by many artists and fans to connect and keep in touch with each other, adding an intimate element to the usual marketing channels. MySpace?s interest in working with the Movement Festival validates an already well known fact - Detroit?s Electronic Music Festival is an event that is continuing to grow and attract attention on a worldwide scale. After the last two years of progress and reviews the festival is getting some well deserved attention, notes festival director Jason Huvaere, there will be no question what?s happening in Detroit on Memorial Day weekend. In addition, this year?s event will increase the level of production regarding sound at the main stage and weather structures to protect attendees. Movement 08 will also bring back the underground stage, where Paxahau?s involvement in the festival began. We have taken great measures to bring the production to an even higher level, says Mike Fotias, Movement Production Manager, We understand that attendees come here expecting nothing but the best and we are determined to deliver. also there's this FREEP article http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080327/ENT04/803270434 MEK Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo. com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ For all the latest news and comment visit www.telegraph.co.uk. This message, its contents and any attachments to it are private, confidential
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Well with that announcement, it shows that perhaps they haven't completely gone to the darkside. So I'll wait and see if the yet to be announced additions make up for some of the wackness presented here and on the rest of the announced line-up. Now I know there's a large contingent that see most of this discussion asmindless bickering, and sometimes it is, but the bickering more often than not has good intentions. At this stage in the game we all expect more, so pardon me for having standards. jw On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: discuss: Detroit - May 24, 25 and 26th will bring Detroit alive with sounds from Movement 08: Detroit?s Electronic Music Festival in Hart Plaza with the Red Bull Music Academy, MySpace promotion and a higher level of production. Movement 08 also announces discounted tickets on sale now. The Red Bull Music Academy will join Movement 08 by producing a stage that reflects a broad range of musical talent from around the world. The Red Bull Music Academy Stage will replace the Pyramid Stage and include performances by: Newcleus, Egyptian Lover, Shawn Michaels, James Zabiela, Benny Bennassi, The Cool Kids,Girl Talk, DATABASS (featuring Godfather), Justin Kruse, Tech Itch and Dieselboy. Also joining this year as a media partner is the vastly popular, global online social networking site MySpace. Having grown over the previous years to become the largest online social network, MySpace is utilized by many artists and fans to connect and keep in touch with each other, adding an intimate element to the usual marketing channels. MySpace?s interest in working with the Movement Festival validates an already well known fact - Detroit?s Electronic Music Festival is an event that is continuing to grow and attract attention on a worldwide scale. After the last two years of progress and reviews the festival is getting some well deserved attention, notes festival director Jason Huvaere, there will be no question what?s happening in Detroit on Memorial Day weekend. In addition, this year?s event will increase the level of production regarding sound at the main stage and weather structures to protect attendees. Movement 08 will also bring back the underground stage, where Paxahau?s involvement in the festival began. We have taken great measures to bring the production to an even higher level, says Mike Fotias, Movement Production Manager, We understand that attendees come here expecting nothing but the best and we are determined to deliver. also there's this FREEP article http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080327/ENT04/803270434 MEK -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com dealing with your imperfect world
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On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Virtually any festival of any note in the last few years has grown in this manner. The first few line-ups are always amazing, and then as it grows, costs escalate and other factors concerning the future viability of the project become prominent, and as such other, more commercial aspects get involved. It's also difficult to try to downscale such a project once it gets to a certain size. everybody else is doing it is a good reason to become wack? i dont see what the problem with scaling back in order to not turn this festival into a joke is. tom
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You're not taking into account the commercial viability of this. In Europe we're lucky because a lot of festivals have considerable funding from various councils and organisations in order to get them to go ahead. The only festival I can think of that that doesn't really run according to commercial foibles is Montreux, and that's been backed from the start by rich philanthropy. Although I've not been, I don't think that is the case in Detroit. It has to be commercially viable in order to succeed in the future. Now, it may be that in say, 5 or 6 years time, the festival may be successful enough nationwide for them to realise their dreams of putting on at least in part the festival that everyone on 313 wants it to be. You may have to be patient for it to happen I'm afraid. They either put on a festival that no-one turns up to and they lose all their money on, or they pocket enough money to be able to do it next year. The fact that Paxahau are doing it I think means that those guys I'm sure will be carrying the flame for Detroit Techno all along, but it'll take time. Landscapes and crowds change - and mindsets have to as well. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2008 15:05 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy) On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Virtually any festival of any note in the last few years has grown in this manner. The first few line-ups are always amazing, and then as it grows, costs escalate and other factors concerning the future viability of the project become prominent, and as such other, more commercial aspects get involved. It's also difficult to try to downscale such a project once it gets to a certain size. everybody else is doing it is a good reason to become wack? i dont see what the problem with scaling back in order to not turn this festival into a joke is. tom For all the latest news and comment visit www.telegraph.co.uk. This message, its contents and any attachments to it are private, confidential and may be the subject of legal privilege. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination of the whole or part of this message (without our prior written consent) is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. Incoming and outgoing telephone calls to our offices may be monitored or recorded for training and quality control purposes and for confirming orders and information. Telegraph Media Group Limited is a limited liability company registered in England and Wales (company number 451593). Our registered office address is: 111 Buckingham Palace Road, London, SW1W 0DT.
RE: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy)
The fact that Paxahau are doing it I think means that those guys I'm sure will be carrying the flame for Richie Hawtin all along, but it'll take time. Landscapes and crowds change - and mindsets have to as well. fixed MEK
Re: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy)
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're not taking into account the commercial viability of this. In Europe we're lucky because a lot of festivals have considerable funding from various councils and organisations in order to get them to go ahead. The only festival I can think of that that doesn't really run ' according to commercial foibles is Montreux, and that's been backed from the start by rich philanthropy. see, i think this is the problem. everyone got dollar signs in their eyes due to the unexpectedly large crowds that had wildly incorrect estimates in the early years. then when they started charging and keeping the entrances gated, it became obvious that these numbers were not right. instead of scaling back to something that could be done to serve all groups of people who had been actually attending the festival (let's break it down into say the international techno crowd, ravers, and locals who might not have known much if anything about the music but came through to have a good time) and who would be likely to continue to support it, they decided to go the megarave route. now they are pushing out the other groups of people (international presence definitely seems way way way down in the past couple of years likely due to the type of lineups, the locals mostly got out when the festival got crazily expensive) at the expense of the groups LEAST likely to continue to support the festival on a regular basis: the transient fickle raver crowd. Although I've not been, I don't think that is the case in Detroit. It has to be commercially viable in order to succeed in the future. Now, it may be that in say, 5 or 6 years time, the ' festival may be successful enough nationwide for them to realise their dreams of putting on at least in part the festival that everyone on 313 wants it to be. You may have to be patient for it to happen I'm afraid. They either put on a festival that no-one turns up to and they lose all their money on, or they pocket enough money to be able to do it next year. why be patient for something that already happened to happen again? if you think this is the future of where this festival is going, i think you are sorely mistaken. the goodness of the festival already happened, and a large part of what made it so interesting has been banished. and then suddenly in 5 or 6 years when DEMF is trying to straight up compete with WMC (which is stupid anyway, why would someone go to detroit when they could go to florida instead?) why would they switch back? it doesnt make sense. this is not the route to take in order for the festival to be what it should be and has been. The fact that Paxahau are doing it I think means that those guys I'm sure will be carrying the flame for Detroit Techno all along, but it'll take time. Landscapes and crowds change - and mindsets have to as well. right. tom
Re: (313) Movement Update (Redbull, Myspace and Dieselboy)
interesting that some of the most interesting and the absolute worst of the announced lineup will be on the RBMA stage. considering the people theyve had at their sessions, youd think that they would have better selections. myspace? deez? weakness. tmo On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: discuss: Detroit - May 24, 25 and 26th will bring Detroit alive with sounds from Movement 08: Detroit?s Electronic Music Festival in Hart Plaza with the Red Bull Music Academy, MySpace promotion and a higher level of production. Movement 08 also announces discounted tickets on sale now. The Red Bull Music Academy will join Movement 08 by producing a stage that reflects a broad range of musical talent from around the world. The Red Bull Music Academy Stage will replace the Pyramid Stage and include performances by: Newcleus, Egyptian Lover, Shawn Michaels, James Zabiela, Benny Bennassi, The Cool Kids,Girl Talk, DATABASS (featuring Godfather), Justin Kruse, Tech Itch and Dieselboy. Also joining this year as a media partner is the vastly popular, global online social networking site MySpace. Having grown over the previous years to become the largest online social network, MySpace is utilized by many artists and fans to connect and keep in touch with each other, adding an intimate element to the usual marketing channels. MySpace?s interest in working with the Movement Festival validates an already well known fact - Detroit?s Electronic Music Festival is an event that is continuing to grow and attract attention on a worldwide scale. After the last two years of progress and reviews the festival is getting some well deserved attention, notes festival director Jason Huvaere, there will be no question what?s happening in Detroit on Memorial Day weekend. In addition, this year?s event will increase the level of production regarding sound at the main stage and weather structures to protect attendees. Movement 08 will also bring back the underground stage, where Paxahau?s involvement in the festival began. We have taken great measures to bring the production to an even higher level, says Mike Fotias, Movement Production Manager, We understand that attendees come here expecting nothing but the best and we are determined to deliver. also there's this FREEP article http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080327/ENT04/803270434 MEK
