Re: [AI] some information needed about the scanners

2020-01-15 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
I beg to differ there is derth of accessible content.
I suppose the best strategy is to first check if the content you are looking 
for is already available in etext. You will save the trouble of correcting 
errors.Moreover, you can start reading instantly.
If this fails then OCR is the next bet.
Harish



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Subject: [AI] some information needed about the scanners

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hello access indians,
I have never scanned a book and a novice scanner.
I like to read the e-books/softcopies of the books rather than listening to 
audio books.
having been appointed as a lecturer in English, the necessity of reading has 
increased than before and the dearth of accessible matterials too.
so, what would b your recommendation of a scanner that gives less OCR 
errors/not at all?
it would be an added advantage if it is quick too.
I have not thought about the budget that has to be incurred on it though.




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[AI] Music talent from NCR

2020-01-14 Thread Kotian, H P
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Score Foundation is looking for blind people who are gifted musicians, both 
singers and instrumentalists. We are exploring the  possibility of promoting 
outstanding music talent. Those who have the talent and would like to make 
music a career, please write to me offline on geo...@eyeway.org. Also share 
with me recordings of your singing or instrument playing. Only persons from 
Delhi NCR should connect and the quality of talent needs to be top class.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Best,

George

George Abraham
CEO
Score Foundation
17/107  LGF
Vikram Vihar
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[AI] Is disability data to be captured in the census?

2020-01-09 Thread Kotian, H P
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I guess the data capture work regarding census is going to commense from March. 
There are about 33 fields which will be asked for.
Is data pertaining to disability is one of these fields?

This data is going to be very critical.

Harish Kotian




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[AI] Matrimony meet

2020-01-09 Thread Kotian, H P
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[AI] Moderator: RE: Unable to get BBC Hindi transmision

2020-01-08 Thread Kotian, H P
All
Let us please close this thread.

Harish Kotian


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: 08 January 2020 22:48
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Subject: Re: [AI] Unable to get BBC Hindi transmision

Anyway, BBC were serving Anti-India/Anti-Hindu Agenda, hence it is significant 
to eliminate such a kind of networks. I welcome this prohibition on the channel!

On 1/7/20, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> very long awaited dicision. I wellcome this step of BBC. as I have
> stopped listening it since abolishment of article 370.
>
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> -Original Message-
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> BBC hindi is closing its radio broadcasts. Morning broadcast was
> closed on Dec 27 if I remember correctly; evening broadcast will be
> closed down at the end of January.
>
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> On 1/6/20, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
>> Hello friends!
>> Have a nice day to all of you.
>> Friends, now a days, i am not able to listen hindi transmision of bbc
>> neither with tapin radio nor with mobile app.
>> Kindly guide me.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> With regards
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Re: [AI] Retrospect and prospect

2019-12-31 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
Thanks for the greetings. Wishing everyone a fulfilling 2020.

Well, I would call synthetic vision as a technology enabled vision. It may not 
be the same as what the eye sees it but in a more functional way.

For instance an audio described movie would not be the same as what the eye 
conveys but in a functional way it to some extent substitutes the visual 
perception of that movie.

Presently computer vision API has lots to offer for us and I look forward for 
many products to come out using this API compounded with AI and Machine 
learning.

Good progress is being done in object recognition and these can provide in this 
synthetic vision with reduced latency and with better accuracy.

Warmly
Harish

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: 31 December 2019 16:01
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disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Retrospect and prospect

Regardless of whether one agrees or disagrees with all or any of these 
thoughts, I must say it's very well-written, Harish. Would be great if you can 
expand on synthetic vision.

Wishing everyone a very happy, harmonious, healthy and fulfilling new year in 
advance from New York, USA.

With warm regards,

Prasanna Kumar Pincha.

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Subject: [AI] Retrospect and prospect

All

Looking behind at the decade gone by and looking forward towards this new 
decade, my thoughts linger on a few aspects.
I invite you all to crystal gaze on what we can look forward in this decade.

We got the new RPD act. Railways have seen noticeable developments in 
accessibility. Banking has been a mixed bag with more accessible ATMS available 
to us but accessibility of Banking portals and apps has been inconsistent.

Currency notes has taken a nasty beating in accessibility.
 There are signs that coins may be now accessible. However I feel the role of 
currency notes and coins will give way to digital transaction in this coming 
decade.
Transportation by and large will become more accessible and friendlier to the 
disabled. Many more cities will have metros running.
We can look forward for Bullet trains and even hyper loop trains.

There would be drop in petrol and diesel driven vehicle with electricity driven 
vehicle taking its place and of course the self-driving cars would be a reality.

I anticipate that synthetic vision will to a good measure minimize visual 
disability.

I guess work related travel will be considerably reduced. Working environment 
will also see changes. I anticipate the working hours could shrink.

Some job types could be lost and hopefully newer ones will take its place.

Drones will be visiting us bringing all the essentials to us instead of the 
delivery boys.

I see serious concerns on privacy and it will be challenging to have control of 
our mind. Our mind will be highly influenced by technology and substances That 
independent thought and opinion will be an highly endangered specie.
The state and corporates will have a larger say and influence on us. This would 
not be desirable at all.

I feel even AccessIndia will have little need to be around and I don't think it 
could sustain over this decade.
These are my own thoughts and you are free to differ with all or any of these.


Harish





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[AI] Retrospect and prospect

2019-12-30 Thread Kotian, H P
All

Looking behind at the decade gone by and looking forward towards this new 
decade, my thoughts linger on a few aspects.
I invite you all to crystal gaze on what we can look forward in this decade.

We got the new RPD act. Railways have seen noticeable developments in 
accessibility. Banking has been a mixed bag with more accessible ATMS available 
to us but accessibility of Banking portals and apps has been inconsistent.

Currency notes has taken a nasty beating in accessibility.
 There are signs that coins may be now accessible. However I feel the role of 
currency notes and coins will give way to digital transaction in this coming 
decade.
Transportation by and large will become more accessible and friendlier to the 
disabled. Many more cities will have metros running.
We can look forward for Bullet trains and even hyper loop trains.

There would be drop in petrol and diesel driven vehicle with electricity driven 
vehicle taking its place and of course the self-driving cars would be a reality.

I anticipate that synthetic vision will to a good measure minimize visual 
disability.

I guess work related travel will be considerably reduced. Working environment 
will also see changes. I anticipate the working hours could shrink.

Some job types could be lost and hopefully newer ones will take its place.

Drones will be visiting us bringing all the essentials to us instead of the 
delivery boys.

I see serious concerns on privacy and it will be challenging to have control of 
our mind. Our mind will be highly influenced by technology and substances That 
independent thought and opinion will be an highly endangered specie.
The state and corporates will have a larger say and influence on us. This would 
not be desirable at all.

I feel even AccessIndia will have little need to be around and I don't think it 
could sustain over this decade.
These are my own thoughts and you are free to differ with all or any of these.


Harish





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[AI] Pixle 3A

2019-12-06 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
I bought pixle 3 A its performance is simply wonderful. It is similar 
experience as that of IOS.
Got it on Flipcart for 30K.
Harish.





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Re: [AI] RBI CDI app for currency identification early access

2019-12-05 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
CDI is the official RBI app. Kitna was a contendor for RBI contract and I guess 
they did not make it.
Harish.


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Sent: 06 December 2019 11:14
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Subject: Re: [AI] RBI CDI app for currency identification early access

That app is very slow in getting the results, further, the Kitna app doesn't 
have the option to turn your torch on, so very difficult to obtain the results 
in a place where there's no proper lighting.

On 12/6/19, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
> What happened to KITNA
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[AI] Not just a ramp, online banking needs to be accessible too

2019-12-02 Thread Kotian, H P


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This mail did not get on the list.
Quoting:

Not just a ramp, online banking needs to be accessible too

I recall, once on my way back from work, my driver stopped at a petrol pump to 
refuel the car. When it was time to pay, I was handed a card swipe machine with 
a touch screen to complete the transaction. Being a blind user, I wondered how 
I was expected to key in my password without a screen reading software 
installed in the machine. The sales representative suggested that I let my 
driver put in the confidential code, which I refused and insisted for a machine 
with a keypad. Reluctantly, the representative got me a machine with a keypad. 
On any keypad or dial pad, the digit 5 is highlighted with a dotted tactile 
impression which helps blind people orient and locate other numbers around to 
press the desired ones.

In another incident, I received a call from my bank's Relationship Manager 
informing me about the recent upgrade of the mobile banking app. When I 
downloaded the updated version and tried to transfer funds using the app, the 
'confirm' button was not read out by the screen reader on my phone, preventing 
me from carrying out the transaction independently. On the contrary, before the 
app upgrade, the process was quite accessible. The state of affairs is such 
that on calling up customer care support to report this glitch, it took me 
half-an-hour to explain to the executive what accessibility of online banking 
means for a person with vision impairment.

On another occasion, I had to take my daughter's help because I was unable to 
click the fund transfer button on my computer even while using the keyboard. 
She was able to help me by maneuvering the mouse on the 'displayed' menu items, 
which I didn't have any way of accessing. Unlike their sighted counterparts, 
blind people like me engage with the digital space using screen readers like 
voice-overs, TalkBack, NVDA (Nonvisual Desktop Access), JAWS (Job Access with 
Speech) through their smartphones or computers. When using computers, we 
navigate using the keyboard's 'tab' or 'arrow' key. Similarly, on the phone, we 
swipe and select through double-tapping on the screen.

Banks and technology developers either lack awareness about accessibility or do 
not consider visually-impaired people an integral part of their user base, 
which is a matter of concern. The fact is that successful blind professionals 
are working across various streams and contribute effectively to the country's 
economy. They rely heavily on banking services, including the monthly 
remunerations to be credited into their accounts.

The Reserve Bank of India mandates that banking should be inclusive for persons 
with disabilities. Inclusion does not merely imply having accessibility 
provisions at the bank. Online banking facilities also need to be made 
accessible. At a time when we have ATMs, internet banking, e-Wallets, Apps and 
other technologically advanced banking services and digital platforms, all 
financial services should be fully accessible. However, the sad reality is that 
only a handful of these services cater to the needs of visually-impaired 
customers.

Denial of accessible banking services further increases the dependence of blind 
citizens on sighted peers making them vulnerable and invading their privacy. 
Rights of Persons with Disabilities Act 2016 mandates that all public 
facilities and services including financial and banking services should be 
accessible to all.

To realize the dream of an 'inclusive' India, first and foremost the 
accessibility barriers need to be broken down.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/editorials/not-just-a-ramp-online-banking-needs-to-be-accessible-too-opinion/story-Ha8iZP1OeZZVRaJoZXHTpL.html




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[AI] Query regarding using IRCTC site

2019-12-01 Thread Kotian, H P
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Harish.
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HI FRIENDS, hope you all are fine with good health. I AM BACK WITH another 
query regarding ticket booking through IRCTC mobile app.
Actually when ever I logon to IRCTC, the screen is full of advertisements and 
this creates pain in ticket booking for me. To over come of this.  I have 
started some add blocker. Although it works fine for me, but I have a query 
regarding using IRCTC mobile app with add blockers.
1: as the add blocker creates a private VPN in order to eliminate add 
displaying while browsing, is it safe to use these kind of apps while 
performing transactions? As the transaction will carry over a private VPN.
2: if no. then what should be done to stop unnecessary adds which are displayed 
on the mobile screen? As it takes longer to search the trains and completing 
the booking procedures.
Friends, your reply is awaited.
Regards Gufran Ahmed



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Re: [AI] Bargaining power being limited by disability

2019-11-15 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi 
I suppose, your thoughts were around people management taking into 
consideration one's disability.

I think you should express yourself if the occasion demands.One should of 
course be mindful of the circumstance but subordinates to gossip and that to go 
without any response It will only give wrong signals and provide extended 
tolerance,
  You should not allow that to happen. Otherwise you may have to pay dearly for 
it.

Harish
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: 15 November 2019 13:30
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Bargaining power being limited by disability

It is an  important factor in some cases and in some cases it is the most 
important factor but in some cases it is a trivial factor and in some cases it 
is irrelevant.  
I have found that if I know technology well then sometimes factors become 
irrelevant or trivial. 
If I plan  a little earlier I can mitigate some of the problems that disability 
brings.  
I am only human and sometimes I let go and leave it to others to do things for 
me because it is easier but in the long run my conscience bites me. I suppress 
the feeling and justify to myself that its best left to the sighted. Then I 
pull myself together and try to learn how to do what I had delegated. Sometimes 
I win and sometimes  I give up. With age I guess I am giving up more 
independence but I don’t like it and I have planned on pulling myself together 
and making disability less important or trivial or irrelevant as much as I can. 
Kanchan
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 15 November 2019 13:08
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Bargaining power being limited by disability

I agree and it is true that Disability is a supervening factor.

-Original Message-
From: Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 11:28 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Bargaining power being limited by disability

Disability is a supervening factor.
It affects not only bargaining power, but all facets of life.

Let the deniers deny that endlessly to boast their self confidence.

For Instance, my son is celebrating his eighth birthday today and  I find 
myself highly restricted to do anything significant for the occasion, while my 
wife is busy  arranging and planning without blaming me.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur

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Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
turab chimthanawala
Sent: 14 November 2019 18:04
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Bargaining power being limited by disability

Hi all,
While I have come a long way in terms of acceptance and independenb operation 
with disability, a couple of days back as I was upset with my mother for 
calling out out my domestic help for a filthy kitchen (out of a fear that she 
might not come to work the following day). I experienced a curb on my 
bargaining power principally owing to disability.
I have experienced this feeling on several occasions in the past as well : 
unable to confront Uber drivers for talking on the phone while driving, once 
overpaying  a Rickshaw as he dropped me despite my destination being 
obstensibly out of his way, daily hesitating to check office clerks for 
gosipping loudly near my seat and many more.
While the general answer to this, is greater confidence and independence, I 
believe this too has its own limitations...
While Mumbai has been extremely kind and helpful enabling independent living 
for over  a year, there are occasions where I struggle to call out 
mistreatment/ injustice fearing the repurcussions.
Eagerly await insights.
Best
Turab



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[AI] Good and bad news on accessible settop boxes

2019-10-30 Thread Kotian, H P


All
Forwarding mail from Prashant which did not make to the list.
Harish.
Quoting:
From: Prashant Ranjan Verma 
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 4:53 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.' 
Subject: TV and set top box accessibility: Good and bad news

dDpear all,
As per my experience, the accessibility  with Talkback has reduced in the newer 
Airtel Xstream android set top box. In the home screen now Talkback is not 
reading the app names. When TV channels are changed, it is possible to read out 
the current and next program names with details but the channel name is not 
read out. If anyone has a better experience with  this box then please let me 
know.

The good thing is that even in Android TV OS there is a shortcut to switch off 
and switch on Talkback. If the Accessibility Services Suite is updated, then 
you will find Accessibility shortcut in Settings > Accessibility. Here choose 
Talkback.
At the same location you will see the keys  to be pressed from the remote.

In Airtel Zstream I can press and hold up and down volume keys to switch off 
and switch on Talkback. In Sony Smart TV I am able to do the same by pressing 
and holding the mute key. Pranay, Ketan, I hope you have either  figured this 
out or you are reading this.

Best wishes for Diwali.

Prashant Ranjan Verma



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[AI] Visually impaired voters welcome Braille initiative

2019-10-22 Thread Kotian, H P
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Regards
Harish Kotian
Quoting:
Visually impaired voters welcome Braille initiative
Visually impaired voters welcome Braille initiative
Abhishek Choudhari | tnn | Updated: Oct 22, 2019, 4:56 IST
Pundalik Borde cast his vote by using Braille candidate list
Nagpur: For the first time in polls, visually impaired voters received their 
voter slips in Braille script, making the process of locating their designated 
booths a lot easier. Additionally at the polling booths, they were given a 
ballot sheet in Braille to identify the candidates through their index numbers 
and match the same with those on EVMs.
Rajlaxmi Shah, deputy district election officer, said “We distributed around 
2,800 voter slips in Braille. To ensure that the booth level officers (BLOs) 
are also able to identify where these slips are to be delivered, we published 
the same information in Devnagari script on the backside of the slip.”
Once at their designated booths, visually impaired voters can go through the 
Braille ballot paper to identify their candidates’ index number. Shah said, 
“They use the same EVM and vote according to the index number of their 
preferred candidate.” So, if the voter’s candidate is at number two in the 
ballot sheet, he/she will press the second button on the EVM as the serial 
numbers will match.
Pundalik Borde, a visually impaired voter, said, “For the first time, I was 
able to vote without assistance and it’s a wonderful feeling. Officials present 
at the polling booth handed over to me a Braille list of candidates with their 
index number and symbol. After going through the list thoroughly, I was 
directed towards the EVM.. The candidates’ index number was mentioned on the 
right side of the machine which I read.”
Another voter Manish Thool, however, pointed to an issue which seems to have 
been overlooked by authorities. “There were two EVMs in my booth as there were 
many candidates in fray. One machine had serial numbers from 1 to 16 and other 
machine too had the same numbering system (1-16) instead of continuing the 
order from 17,” said Thool.
“Thankfully, the people present at the booth were very cooperative and it 
helped me cast my vote correctly,” he said.
Another voter Sayeed Moin said this initiative by the Election Commission of 
India has ‘liberated’ them. “I was able to cast my vote without help from 
family or any of the staff members and this filled me with a sense of 
independence,” said Moin.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
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Re: [AI] Orbit reader 20 not working

2019-10-11 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi

I really don't know the exact nature of your problem. However, I have observed 
in some other blue-tooth device close of what you have stated.

Quite often we power devices with any charger compatible. As a result we charge 
with a charger with much more power than what it ideally should be.Secondly, we 
charge for longer duration than recommended. The toll actually falls on the 
battery.

We end up ruining the battery and as a result our device fails to work. This is 
also holds good to laptop in someways.

Coming to your issue specifically, I have found with smaller chargers and using 
different cable you may find some combination which actually charges the 
device. If none of them work, you can try different chargers in a shop and even 
that fails, you will have to take it to a technician who will replace the 
battery. Even the non replacement devices's battery can be changed. You may end 
up with some dents.

Harish.
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 3:38 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Orbit reader 20 not working



Hi, there,

I am unable to charge the device. Whenever I put it on charging, two dots on 
the bottom right of the display begin flashing, but the device does not 
actually charge. Any thoughts?

Best,
RahulSent from my iPhone


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Re: [AI] Air travel for passengers with disabilities still stressful - Times of India

2019-10-10 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
The agony gets compounded in a foreign land where the consequence of missing a 
flight can be huge. Besides there is language issues to deal with.

I am reminded when I was denied boarding on the erstwhile Kingfisher because it 
happened to be an all female crew on that particular flight.

Harish

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Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 3:37 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: [AI] Air travel for passengers with disabilities still stressful - 
Times of India

Air travel for passengers with disabilities still stressful
- Times of India

MUMBAI: Not being assured of airline assistance for boarding and deboarding at 
airports, especially foreign ones, can make air travel quite stressful for 
visually impaired solo travellers. A professor from Pune had a difficult time 
early this month after his request for assistance at Johannesburg and Abu Dhabi 
airport was accepted by the airlines only after several protests.
Last week, Sanjay Jain, associate professor at ILS Law College, travelled solo 
to Johannesburg to attend a disabilities conference. He was booked to fly Air 
Tanzania and return on Etihad via Abu Dhabi. He called up the airlines for 
assistance a week before his flight. "I'm visually impaired, I cannot board 
without help," said Jain. "Air Tanzania promptly responded to my request for 
assistance with boarding." With Etihad, it was first a no, then a yes on day 
two, provided he produced a medical certificate. "Then they agreed to assist, 
but refused to send a mail or a screenshot or some kind of documentation that I 
could rely on as proof, if they eventually denied help at the airport. It was 
quite stressful," he said. TOI sent a query to Etihad on September 27. The 
airline did not respond. But on October 3, it did provide assistance to Jain in 
Johannesburg and Abu Dhabi airports.
"Why haven't airlines yet adopted common practices that makes travel easier for 
people with disabilities. Why should we go through such stress before a 
flight?" asked Jain. Airlines global trade body, the International Air 
Transport Association (IATA), in its annual general meeting held this year, had 
unanimously approved a resolution to improve the air travel experience for the 
estimated one billion people living with disabilities worldwide. But it seems, 
there are miles to go before it becomes a reality. On domestic air travel front 
though, much has improved, especially after the 2016 Jeeja Gosh Supreme Court 
judgment, said solicitor Kanchan Pamnani, who has boarded a number of domestic 
flights solo in the past four decades. The Supreme Court Jeeja Ghosh 2016 
judgement has brought much attention to problems faced by passengers with 
disabilities. Disabilities rights activist Ghosh had moved the court after a 
2012 incident, wherein she was offloaded from a SpiceJet Kolkata-Goa flight on 
instructions of the commander. "Even after four years of the said incident 
whenever she has a flashback, she feels haunted with that scene when she was 
pulled out of the plane, like a criminal. She continues to have nightmares," 
read her petition. The petition sought a system under which differently abled 
persons do not suffer this kind of agony, humiliation and emotional trauma 
which amount to doing violence to their human dignity and infringes, to the 
hilt, their fundamental rights under Articles 14 and 21 of the Constitution. 
"Despite that, sometimes I come across staff who aren't well-trained," said 
Pamnani, who is visually impaired. Recently, she was led to wrong end of the 
parking lot as the airline attendant wasn't familiar with the layout of Mumbai 
airport. "There are about one crore visually impaired persons in India," said 
Suhas Karnik, honorary secretary of National Association for the Blind. Karnik, 
who also travels frequently on domestic routes, has largely had good experience 
with airlines. However, airlines could bring about a few changes to make air 
travel easier for these passengers, he said. "Airline crew/staff training needs 
to include a module on how to handle disabled passengers. NAB can help with it. 
We can work with airlines and conduct training for crew," said Karnik.





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[AI] Moderator: Breaching list guidelines-RE: Friends of SayEverything, let's be together!

2019-10-10 Thread Kotian, H P
Dear Amit

I would like to draw your attention on the list guidelines regarding "not 
permitted at all" point 5 which I am reproducing below:
5 advertisements, it may be clarified, there is a difference between providing 
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In your post, you are soliciting parteners to join your list and as a quidproco 
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This is not expected especially by you.

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Re: [AI] Fwd: audio description in iffi

2019-10-09 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi Taha
Pl elaborate, how the audio description is made available to the blind user?

Is it through a small FM transmitter or through a app.
Are all the films covered?
What about foreign language, in which language will be the AD be?

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yes indeed, it is absolutely a fantastic initiative by the International Film 
Festival of India.
i with Saksham, New Delhi are really glad to be a integral part to get this 
concept on board.
but, only 1 correction that, this is happening from last 3 years and we are 
getting a great response.

Thanks.

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[AI] Moderator: List guidelines

2019-10-09 Thread Kotian, H P




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Re: [AI] Amazon’s Echo can now help describe grocery items to the visually impaired

2019-09-25 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
I was of an understanding Echo was essentially a blue-tooth speaker with 
virtual assistant built-in.
 Now I figure out it also has a camera. It was listening to the conversation in 
the room all the time. So, is it also watching visually? Pretty scarry.
The feature demonstrated is interesting though although it is also available in 
many apps.

Harish.

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soloman s
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 5:55 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Amazon’s Echo can now help describe grocery items to the visually 
impaired

Amazon’s Echo can now help describe grocery items to the visually impaired 
Amazon.com’s virtual assistant just got more intelligent after the company 
revealed Monday that the visually impaired can now ask it what they are holding.
The new feature, called “Show and Tell,” enables customers who are blind or 
people with low vision to hold an item in front of first- and second-generation 
Echo Show devices and ask, “Alexa, what am I holding?” or “Alexa, what’s in my 
hand?” The object will then be identified using Amazon’s machine learning 
technology.
That could be especially helpful for grocery items such as tins and boxes that 
might be hard to identify properly. As Amazon demonstrated in a video, a blind 
person asked Alexa what she’s holding and Alexa replied, “It looks like tea.”
“The whole idea for Show and Tell came about from feedback from blind and low 
vision customers,” said Sarah Caplener, who leads Amazon’s Alexa for Everyone 
team. “We heard that product identification can be a challenge and something 
customers wanted Alexa’s help with. Whether a customer is sorting through a bag 
of groceries, or trying to determine what item was left out on the counter, we 
want to make those moments simpler by helping identify these items and giving 
customers the information they need in that moment.”
Partnering with California-based Vista Center for the Blind and Visually 
Impaired, Amazon worked with visually impaired people to understand the 
problems they have at home and how Alexa could help.
One volunteer who is completely blind called the technology “revolutionary,” 
saying with such devices acting as his eyes, he is much more independent. He 
said he likes to cook, but without the help of a personal assistant, it’s 
impossible to know what spice he is holding. In another example, Alexa 
identifies for him a box of macaroni and cheese.
“It’s essential to work with our customers, not just for them, to create 
something that’s truly helpful,” said Caplener.
Article Link: 
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[AI] Accessibility of NewsOnAir app

2019-09-19 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi Everyone

I was using the AllIndiaRadio app earlier. This is accessible both on IOS and 
Android

Yesterday I tried the NewsOnAir app.

I got a pleasant surprise that all the stations of AIR throughout the country 
was available here.

Select list view to make the list of stations accessible.

It will be particularly useful for those who speak some dilect other than the 
main stream ones and you still want to be in touch with it.

This is reasonably accessible on Android but very poor on IOS.


For radio lovers.

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[AI] FW: ICEVI Math Made Easy YouTube Channel

2019-09-16 Thread Kotian, H P


Hi
This would interest math lovers.
Harish.

From: ICEVI Secretariat [mailto:ofic...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:33 AM
Subject: ICEVI Math Made Easy YouTube Channel

Dear All

Greetings!

We are glad to share the news that Larry Campbell, President Emeritus ICEVI and 
Todd Reeves, CEO, Overbrook School for the Blind(OSB), Philadelphia jointly 
inaugurated the ICEVI MATH MADE EASY YouTube Channel at the OSB on 4th 
September 2019. You can access the channel by clicking the link 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrmcpSzNg_9EXLbqExtVlAQ
 and view 30 instructional videos on mathematics education for visually 
impaired children.

Please subscribe to the channel and also share this news with teachers of 
visually impaired children, parents, teacher educators and all those who are 
interested in the education of children with visual impairment. We will be 
uploading another 20 videos in September and more videos will be uploaded on 
regular basis. We hope teachers will find these instructional videos useful to 
make mathematics easy for visually impaired children. We hope to receive your 
comments and suggestions for improving the video instructional materials.

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Re: [AI] Let’s get our Act together

2019-09-16 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
Wonderful, thanks for sharing this.
Harish.


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 5:38 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the 
disabled.
Subject: [AI] Let’s get our Act together

9/16/2019 Let’s get our Act together
https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.noclick_com/opinion/columnists/by-invitation/lets-get-our-act-together/articleshowprint/71088837.cms?prtpage=1
1/2 Printed from Let’s get our Act together Mumbai Mirror | Sep 12, 2019,
06.00 AM IST By Dr Swati Popat Vats The recently concluded Sarva Shiksha awards 
in Delhi, where I was a jury member, were an eye-opener to the sad reality that 
very few schools understand the idea of inclusion. The Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan is 
a programme under the HRD ministry to oversee the implementation of the Right 
to Education (RTE) Act, 2009, which mandates reservation of 25 per cent ofseats 
in schools for students with special needs and those from lower income groups. 
Hundreds ofschools from across the country vied for the awards, but only a 100 
were shortlisted after being judged for RTE admissions on the parameters set by 
the National Accreditation Board for Education and Training. It became clear 
with each presentation how only a handful had a clear idea about the difference 
between inclusion, integration and segregation. Most of them are practising 
either integration or segregation and have convinced themselves that it is 
‘inclusion’. For them, someone from the lower income group is also a special 
child and vice versa. It’s not as if the difference between ‘inclusion’ and 
‘integration’ is subtle. While ‘inclusion’ means similar standards and services 
for everyone, ‘integration’ is same space for everyone availing similar 
standards and facilities. Contrarily, ‘segregation’ is assigning separate 
spaces despite equal access to standards and facilities. Even though the awards 
were for including RTE students, most schools spoke about how they run free 
schools 9/16/2019 Let’s get our Act together
https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.noclick_com/opinion/columnists/by-invitation/lets-get-our-act-together/articleshowprint/71088837.cms?prtpage=1
2/2 for students from lower income families or extra classes after school 
and/or on weekends for them. This actually defeats the purpose of ‘inclusion’. 
Also participating in the awards function were corporate groups who said they 
offer complete schools, with free uniforms and buses, for lower income 
families; I am sure allfrom their CSR funds, achieving two targets with one 
action. We are forgetting that the RTE Act is not just about free education but 
also about ensuring that everyone engages together. Having a school dedicated 
only to RTE students is, in fact, a type ofsegregation. I also cringed when I 
heard some educationists refer to poor children and those with special needs 
interchangeably. No wonder, they use the same emotion to deal with either – 
pity. And then there were the Super 5, the silver lining of our education 
system. Five private schools displayed photos of their classrooms and 
activities that were true picture of inclusion. A true celebration of RTE Act, 
they practice ‘inclusion’ like no other. A fellow juror asked me what I was 
looking for while judging. I said I was looking for empathy and not sympathy. 
That is what worked for a handful ofschools that passed the test with flying 
colours. While sympathy will get RTE students into the IITs and IIMs, they 
won’t be able to fit in because of the social divide and end up ditching a 
programme or worse. It is empathy that we need; empathy for both RTE students 
and their parents.
The Super 5 schools are exemplary for their focus on IQ (intelligence 
quotient), EQ (emotional quotient) and SQ (social quotient). Children here are 
apparently academically thriving by working together as one and learning to 
share and care. The award here goes to staff training and sensitisation, which 
are the keys to making parents of RTE students ‘comfortable’ with the concept. 
The Super 5 schools removed the ‘class’
divide by laying down common rules for all, be it common uniforms, common 
buses, rules and limits for birthday celebrations and rules and limits for what 
students can bring to school. With a buddy and mentor system, RTE students are 
helped with the basics of hygiene, language and academic related issues. The 
information about what being in their schools entails is sent out as circulars 
to parents in multiple languages. I also feel it’s time to include the 
knowledge and understanding of the RTE Act in our BEd courses, so that teachers 
can internalise it while learning how to impart education. It’s also time to 
move from Super 5 to Super Schools, so that we have a nation that excels and 
not the one that expels. The writer is president of Early Childhood Association


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Re: [AI] List down your accessibility issues with PDFs

2019-09-08 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi Amar
I will comment inline in your mail. My comments will be in  on a new line.
Harish


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Amar Jain
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2019 5:54 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] List down your accessibility issues with PDFs

Dear all,

At the outset, thank you to everyone for taking their time out to respond to 
this request. My apologies for getting back with a response with some delay, as 
there is a lot going on. I am copying people from Adobe on this email, as my 
intentions are to: (i) get this to their attention that people with blindness 
are not having accessible experience with their beautiful creation, and (ii) if 
they get to a point where they stop supporting us, then we need to find someone 
who can legally compel them to support us to make their PDF accessible.

Please see my response to everyone's email below. Also, if I need some 
information from any specific individual, I have put that as a note:

1. Password protection, scanned PDF, and OCR Issues: The password protection is 
a business need, as at times clients want the functionality of making the 
content so confidential that it cannot be copied, extracted, modified, printed, 
and so on. The real challenge for an assistive technology is that it needs to 
be able to extract the content in form of the text from the underlying source 
code for it to be able to pass on in an accessible manner to a person with a 
disability. The only way you can get around it is to use either a virtual 
printer, or a normal printer, along with re-scanning the printed material and 
performing an OCR. Adobe as a business needs to provide this functionality to 
its clients and getting it out due to it rendering inaccessible content is not 
possible unless someone can try getting them into legal trouble for 
discrimination due to disability in U.S. Indian law and Indian courts cannot 
help us. They should alert authors when they change security settings at a 
point where security settings prevent reading screen readers. As far as scanned 
PDFs are concerned, that is the problem of the content creator. Acrobat Pro 
does provide you the OCR functionality, and it cannot be combined in the 
Acrobat Reader as it comes with a cost and to keep the business running, 
companies need to recover the cost. So far as people using stuff like titles, 
headers, footers, which render inaccurate OCR content, that is again a content 
creator's problem, and there is nothing that Adobe can do about it. So far, my 
recommendation in terms of an OCR is to use ABBYY Fine Reader. I have not come 
across an OCR which is better than that.
 I did mention in my mail, all security features like disable printing etc 
should not be altered for screen readers.They are business requirements and I 
am not asking to change it. Whenever a screen reader opens the PDF document, 
the application is aware of it. By maintaining the protection they have still 
to provide the inputs to the screen reader. This is technically possible so 
don't be carried out with this argument.
Secondly they are free to use open source OCR's like Teserac. They can get bulk 
licence for a small cost, so you need not go soft on that. We need to press our 
requirements
To supplement, it has a speech aloud function to speak out content. This would 
be required to make it a fully accessible solution.

[Note to Bhavani sir: Re the issue of PDF opening in older version and not 
opening in the newer version, If the contents of the PDF are not confidential, 
then please share on an email, and let's try to get Adobe's attention. 
Although, it is not an accessibility issue, but rather a compatibility issue.]

2. Reading non-Unicode PDF files: Reading Hindi and other PDF files which are 
non-Unicode, with screen readers is a challenge. We need to reach out to people 
who have created these fonts to identify the solution. Adobe is only allowing 
authors to create the content in the way they want. As a result, the only 
functionality which Adobe can provide is to be able to render the font in PDF. 
There are Unicode converters available, both free and paid. See if that can 
help you out. Additionally, I will still try my luck with Adobe to see if we 
can find out a solution which renders such fonts in a way which can be read out 
by screen readers. But I must confess, my knowledge is severely limited in this 
area, and I need someone who can educate me in this area to come to a solution. 
The only thing which I understand at this point is that why does the same file 
is capable of being read by a screen reader and why PDF cannot render the same 
functionality.
 Amar Acrobat reader is not Unicode compliant. Once they fix it all the 
Indian Unicode text will be spoken. I don't expect them to fix non Unicode font 
issue.


If anyone can send me a sample, that would be of big help. [Note to Sandeep and 
Rohit bhaiya: 

Re: [AI] List down your accessibility issues with PDFs

2019-09-05 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi Amar
In addition to those issues pointed below, In many PDF files I have found text 
joined together. The screen reader makes some effort to speak it out but it 
sounds gibberish.
To summarize the points
1 It should be Unicode compliant
2 Any protection applied like print disabled etc. may continue to have the 
restrictions but the text should be available to screen readers.
3 Image PDF files should have OCR to convert into text and the OCR engines 
should be having Indian languages as well.
4 In a save as text option there should be RTF format by which the formatting 
of the document is preserved.
5 Forms should be accessible by screen readers.
6 Arbitrary string concatenation issue should be addressed.
7 Under edit menu to add to select the table. This can help in copying a table.
8 In accessibility selection dialog box the start button does not have a 
keyboard access key. That should be added. Sometimes I have found the tab does 
not go to it.
9 Sometimes when using a browser, the PDF file opens inside the browser Here 
the OCR functionality provided by screen reader too does not work. It is very 
difficult to read that document. The user is forced to save the document first 
and read it later on. The suggestion is when screen reader is active the 
document should open in the stand alone Acrobat reader and not in the browser.

Thanks Amar to take this up.
Harish.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Rohit Trivedi
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 6:32 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] List down your accessibility issues with PDFs

Dear amar,

When ever accessibility features are enabled in Adobe there should be a feature 
to have OCR facility available particularly when it is an image file. This will 
eliminate the cumbersome task of using third party software for conversion of 
image file and files made with non-unicode /ttf fonts in languages like hindi 
into a text file. Some thing that apps like ID or Envision are doing in phone.

Rohit






From: AccessIndia  on behalf of Sandeep 
Singh 
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 8:59:59 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] List down your accessibility issues with PDFs

I don't know if this problem is universal or not, but I find it difficult to 
read Hindi PDF files. I can easily read the same text in Word file.

On 9/5/19, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> Another major issue is same pdf file opening with old version of adobe
> acrobat reader but can't be opened with acrobat reader dc.
>
> On Thu, 5 Sep 2019, 6:59 p.m. Vedprakash Sharma, <
> vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The most obvious problem arises when the pdf file is password
>> protected and one can read the file but cannot modify. In such cases,
>> unless one knows the password, there is no solution. Bank statements,
>> creditcard bills etc come in this form.
>> Second problem arises when some takes photo of some written pages and
>> saves the image in pdf form. In such cases, Jaws command
>> "insert+space +O W" is very helpful but it is not the solution.
>> Third major problem is related to scanning. While scanning a
>> document, various unnecessary characters hamper the reading the document.
>> Especially,
>> CBSE books display the title of the chapter on every page. Hence,
>> when we give a read all command, each page begins with the chapter
>> name. some times, this chapter name comes in between a sentence,
>> resulting in misleading meanings.
>> While reading maths and science books, tables and charts are not
>> properly read.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf Of Amar Jain
>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 7:56 AM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: [AI] List down your accessibility issues with PDFs
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Considering the pain of blind professionals and students, some of us
>> have decided to work with Adobe and Vispero to find out ways in which
>> PDFs can be made better for people with blindness. And I am doing
>> everything possible to get this to Shantanu's (CEO of Adobe)
>> attention, so that the bottlenecks between business, legal,
>> compliance and development can be adressed. The good thing is that
>> the head of accessibility at Adobe and Vispero have been very receptive.
>>
>> While the major problem of inaccessibility of PDF is because a lot of
>> things are dependent on authors for ensuring accessibility, but this
>> approach itself needs a relook. Changing millions of minds is
>> difficult, but creating ways to empower millions is certainly
>> possible and the technologies meant to assist people with
>> disabilities is a real example of this.
>>
>> Please send me the list of issues, steps to reproduce, an

[AI] FW: Google finds 'indiscriminate iPhone attack lasting years' - BBC News

2019-09-02 Thread Kotian, H P


From: Jijesh A [mailto:jijeshsai...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 8:19 AM
To: James Timony
Subject: Google finds 'indiscriminate iPhone attack lasting years' - BBC News


https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/technology-49520355?__twitter_impression=true
Google finds 'indiscriminate iPhone attack lasting years'
Getty Images [The attack affected all models of iPhone, up until the latest 
version, Google's team said]
The attack affected all models of iPhone, up until the latest version, Google's 
team said

Security researchers at Google have found evidence of a “sustained effort” to 
hack iPhones over a period of at least two years.

The attack was said to be carried out using websites which would discreetly 
implant malicious software to gather contacts, images and other data.

Google’s analysis suggested the booby-trapped websites were said to have been 
visited thousands of times per week.

Apple told the BBC it did not wish to comment.

The attack was shared in great detail in a series of technical 
posts
 written by British cybersecurity expert Ian Beer, a member of Project Zero, 
Google’s taskforce for finding new security vulnerabilities, known as zero days.

"There was no target discrimination,” Mr Beer wrote.

“Simply visiting the hacked site was enough for the exploit server to attack 
your device, and if it was successful, install a monitoring implant."

Mr Beer and his team said they discovered attackers were using 12 separate 
security flaws in order to compromise devices. Most were bugs within Safari, 
the default web browser on Apple products.

'Sustained effort'

Once on a person’s iPhone, the implant could access an enormous amount of data, 
including (though not limited to) contacts, images and GPS location data. It 
would relay this information back to an external server every 60 seconds, Mr 
Beer noted.

The implant also was able to scoop up data from apps a person was using, such 
as Instagram, WhatsApp and Telegram. Mr Beer’s list of examples also included 
Google products such as Gmail and Hangouts, the firm's group video chat app.

The attackers were able to exploit "almost every version from iOS 10 through to 
the latest version of iOS 12”, Mr Beer added.

"This indicated a group making a sustained effort to hack the users of iPhones 
in certain communities over a period of at least two years.”

Are you protected?

Apple issued a software fix to address the flaw back in February.

If you are an iPhone user, you should make sure your device is running the 
latest version of iOS, to make sure you are protected.

To do this, go to Settings and tap General. Under 'Software Update' you should 
be running iOS 12.4.1.

If you are not running iOS 12.4.1 you will be given the opportunity to update 
your device.

Apple's fix

Google’s team notified Apple of the vulnerabilities on 1 February this year. A 
patch was subsequently 
released six days later to 
close the vulnerability. Apple’s patch notes refer to fixing an issue whereby 
“an application may be able to gain elevated privileges” and “an application 
may be able to execute arbitrary code with kernel privileges”.
Tim Cook: "We are moving privacy protection forward"

iPhone users should update their device to the latest software to make sure 
they are adequately protected.

Unlike some security disclosures, which offer merely theoretical uses of 
vulnerabilities, Google discovered this attack “in the wild" - in other words, 
it was in use by cybercriminals.

Mr Beer’s analysis did not speculate on who may be behind the attack, nor how 
lucrative the tool may have been on the black market. Some “zero day” attacks 
can be sold for several millions dollars - until they’re discovered and fixed.

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Re: [AI] Moderator: Spam-RE: Join Whats Ap(9472044817) group of Bhargav Gurukul for Job alert

2019-07-22 Thread Kotian, H P


I don't understand the impunity you are responding to my post and doing the 
same thing I am forbidding to do.
This is the last warning to all.
Harish
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[AI] Moderator: Spam-RE: Join Whats Ap(9472044817) group of Bhargav Gurukul for Job alert

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Re: [AI] FACING ISSUE WITH ADOBE ACROBAT READER XI

2019-07-11 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
If it is a Win10 system, you may open the PDF file in browsers like Crome etc.
If it is visually allright, then repair Acrobat reader, that will fix the 
problem.
Harish.


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bhawani shankar verma
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Subject: [AI] FACING ISSUE WITH ADOBE ACROBAT READER XI

hello accessindia!

I have installed adobe reader xi (11). some pdf files are not opening with this 
version of adobe reader. the error is:


Adobe Reader could not open '2017_itdcbs_circulars_2017_itdcbs2017007.pdf'
because it is either not a supported file type or because the file has been 
damaged (for example, it was sent as an email attachment and wasn't correctly 
decoded).
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Re: [AI] AI help regarding new passport.

2019-07-11 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
Disability certificate helps you on priority entry and to take an escort for 
accompanying you. Other than that there is no role for passport. Even Xerox of 
disability certificate should be ok.

Harish
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faiyaz attar
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 1:18 PM
To: Jeegar Pithwa
Cc: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] AI help regarding new passport.

My passport application will be rejected or not?

Regards,

Faiyaz.

On Thu 11 Jul, 2019, 1:04 PM Jeegar Pithwa,  wrote:

> I don't think disability certificate his is require, if other
> documents are in order then what is the need of disability certificate
>
> On 11 July 2019 12:58:12 pm faiyaz attar 
> wrote:
>
> > Dear access Indian members,
> >
> > I have a query regarding new passport. Recently I had applied for
> > new passport. And all documents I have uploaded successfully.
> >
> > However, I have all the documents in soft copy format, I have all
> original
> > documents with me. But unfortunately, I have lost my disability
> certificate
> > original copy.
> >
> > However, we have launched an F I R, and duplicate copy will be
> > delivered soon and I have my disability certificate xerox copy as well.
> >
> > But my concern is, If in case, I do not receive duplicate copy for
> > the
> same
> > before interview from the passport office date, how can I tackle
> > this issue?
> >
> > Any immediate help will be more appreciated.
> >
> > Regards,
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Re: [AI] Promoting XL cinema app

2019-07-02 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi Dipti
Very interesting. Although it is a big ask, Is it possible to build awareness 
to start with FTII?
On a bit broader level, although the law mandates AD and close captioning, we 
should also get the I&B ministry to take some affirmative steps on increasing 
accessible content on TV's.

Harish.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
dipti prasad
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 11:40 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Promoting XL cinema app

Hi harishjee,
We make AD tracks in 3days. It's only a matter of producer/content owners 
intention. We are in touch with the information and broadcasting minister also 
social justice and empowerment minister to convince them to make AD tracks 
mandatory for movies at the time of censor. Hopefully things should get moving 
then.

Regards,

Dipti Prasad

On Tue, 2 Jul, 2019, 10:35 AM Kotian, H P,  wrote:

> Hi Dipti
>
> To create the AD track, it should be taking a good deal of time. Is it
> then possible to have the AD while it is getting released?
>
> Is it possible to start early, when the movie is being made? Is there
> any mechanisim to do so? I mean some formal mechanisim or grapewine is
> the only means? Is there any licensing or registration process
> involved before one starts a movie project?
>
> Trying to think out of the box really. Who funds for the AD track?
>
> Harish.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of dipti prasad
> Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 8:04 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Promoting XL cinema app
>
> Hi Abhisar,
> Thankyou for your feedback.
> Here's how XLCINEMA works:
> We approach the producers/content owners, convince them to allow us to
> make the audio description track for their movies. Only when their
> permission is granted we can make the AD track and make it available
> my XLCINEMA app.
> We were trying our level best to bring Article15 onboard but according
> to the content owner there is no demand for AD track. Thus, I have
> repeatedly requested to please write a review about the app which only
> proves the demand for AD tracks in Indai.
> Hope we are on the same page now.
>
> Regards
>
> Dipti Prasad
>
> On Tue, 2 Jul, 2019, 7:44 AM Abhisar Waghmare, 
> wrote:
>
> > I really appreciate the work you guys are trying to do but my
> > dissatisfaction arises from the fact that many of the good movies
> > get released ,  days pass by and still there is no any audio
> > description ticket available for it.
> > A fresh example would be article 15, kabir singh  etc.
> > I had to go to the theaters and watch without audio description.
> > Hope you guys work on it.
> >
> > Best Regards-
> > Abhisar
> >
> >
> > > On 01-Jul-2019, at 23:17, dipti prasad  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hindi movie RAW now available for home viewing, sync with XL
> > > CINEMA app
> > for
> > > Audio description track. To download click on
> > > http://onelink.noclick_noclick_to/nrgxth After you enjoy it, do
> > > write a review and share your experience with
> > others.
> > >
> > >> On Wed, 26 Jun, 2019, 3:56 PM dipti prasad,
> > >> 
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Thankyou Timy for your response. Please review the app on
> > >> appstore/play store.
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >> Dipti Prasad
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, 26 Jun, 2019, 3:52 PM yes I am blind so what, <
> > timys...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Sholay was one of the movie.
> > >>>
> > >>> I observe that, if the blind user mute the audio as well, the
> > >>> audio description is continued.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Anyway, that experience was osom.
> > >>>
> > >>> Expecting, some other regional language as well.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 6/26/19, dipti prasad  wrote:
> > >>>> Dear timy
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thankyou for your email. Let's take this in steps: which movie
> > >>>> were
> > you
> > >>>> using the app for on YouTube?
> > >>>> Xlcinema makes AD tracks upon the cont

Re: [AI] Moderator: RE: A tutorial on iOS jailbreaking

2019-07-02 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
The mobile  list is now defunct.
Harish.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Sagar Verma
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 12:54 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Moderator: RE: A tutorial on iOS jailbreaking

Okay no problems, should I post it to the mobile list?



Sent from my iPhone

> On 1 Jul 2019, at 13:05, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> 
> All
> This topic is not in the scope of the list.
> This thread is closed.
> Harish Kotian
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
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> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 1:47 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] A tutorial on iOS jailbreaking
> 
> 
> Hi everyone, as the subject mentions, this is a demonstration on iOS 
> jailbreak in, Firstly a disclaimer this isn’t for everyone, this is 
> for those who are very much into customising their iOS devices, Kindly 
> use the following link to check out the demonstration, Please like and 
> spread the word across, It would be greatly appreciated,
> 
> Link for the jailbreak tutorial,
> 
> https://youtu.noclick_noclick_be/p-muWS2KCjc
> 
> 
> If you require any assistance, I do have a group on WhatsApp in which 
> we talk regarding jailbreaking iOS devices, Use the following link to 
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[AI] FW: Survey Questions on women with disabilities in Asia Pacific Region & other resources from APWLD & APWWDU

2019-07-01 Thread Kotian, H P

Hi
Forwarding this, I guess this would interest many.
Harish.

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Subject: Survey Questions on women with disabilities in Asia Pacific Region & 
other resources from APWLD & APWWDU

Dear all,
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disabilities in Asia Pacific region as given in the mail below. please send in 
your responses to the questions directly and keep connected to this forum so 

Re: [AI] Promoting XL cinema app

2019-07-01 Thread Kotian, H P
>>
> >>>>>> On 6/21/19, dipti prasad  wrote:
> >>>>>> Dear Shankar
> >>>>>> Thankyou for using xlcinema app.  With your support we will
> >>>>>> achieve great results.  After we prove users of mainstream
> >>>>>> cinema regional
> >>> movie
> >>>>>> makers will also get convinced to allow us to make AD tracks.
> >>>>>> Please mention your demand as the review of the app on
> >>>>>> http://onelink.noclick_to/nrgxth
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>> Dipti Prasad
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, 21 Jun, 2019, 6:42 PM C Shankar, <
> >>>>> shanka...@tech-accessibility.in>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi there,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I also experienced the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> xl cinema, but, the audio content of the files should also
> >>>>>>> provided with the indian regional languages.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 6/20/2019 5:11 PM, dipti prasad wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hi Viraj,
> >>>>>>>> Thankyou for using xlcinema app. Yes app can sync with movies
> >>> playing
> >>>>> on
> >>>>>>>> Netflix.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Dipti Prasad
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Jun, 2019, 5:05 PM Viraj Kafle, 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I have downloaded the app. My query is: can movie played on
> >>> Youtube
> >>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>> Netflix be also sinced with the app?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Viraj
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 20-Jun-2019, at 1:37 PM, Kotian, H P
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Kanchan
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I checked, you can use a blue-tooth device. Otherwise,
> >>> headphone is
> >>>>>>>>> mandatory. Again headphone is not mandatory for trailers.
> >>>>>>>>>> Harish.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> -Original Message-
> >>>>>>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:
> >>> accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
> >>>>> On
> >>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 6:56 PM
> >>>>>>>>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
> >>>>>>>>>> issues
> >>>>>>>>> concerning the disabled.'
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Promoting XL cinema app
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Can I use the ap without headphones?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> -Original Message-
> >>>>>>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:
> >>> accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
> >>>>> On
> >>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Kotian, H P
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 19 June 2019 14:16
> >>>>>>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
> >>>>>>>>>> issues
> >>>>>>>>> concerning the disabled.
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Promoting XL cinema app
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Abhisar
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I forwarded your concerns to her. However,

[AI] Moderator: RE: A tutorial on iOS jailbreaking

2019-06-30 Thread Kotian, H P
All
This topic is not in the scope of the list.
This thread is closed.
Harish Kotian


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Sagar Verma
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 1:47 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] A tutorial on iOS jailbreaking


Hi everyone, as the subject mentions, this is a demonstration on iOS jailbreak 
in, Firstly a disclaimer this isn’t for everyone, this is for those who are 
very much into customising their iOS devices, Kindly use the following link to 
check out the demonstration, Please like and spread the word across, It would 
be greatly appreciated,

Link for the jailbreak tutorial,

https://youtu.noclick_be/p-muWS2KCjc


If you require any assistance, I do have a group on WhatsApp in which we talk 
regarding jailbreaking iOS devices, Use the following link to join,

https://chat.whatsapp.noclick_com/FY6gqBnZxi4HHXZZRiXfeR
Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [AI] regarding for my project questionaire

2019-06-26 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi

Attachments are not permitted on the list. Pl provide the link maybe 
Googledrive or any such sites or better a url to fill it online rather than 
downloading the questionnaire and sending back to you.

Pl ensure, that the questionnaire is screen reader friendly before publishing 
it.

Regards
Harish.

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Subject: [AI] regarding for my project questionaire

Good afternoon sir. i am Gowri from coimbatore. I am doing Ph D in 
Avinashilingam university  and also i am visually impaired person. I  need help 
based on my project work for data collection.My topic is Human resource 
Practices and Employee Empowerment for differently abled employees in different 
sectors with special reference in  Tamilnadu district. pls send back the filled 
in a questionaire at earliest.
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[AI] Mid life blindness

2019-06-25 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
The following mail did not get on the list.
Copying it below.
Harish.
Quoting:


Hi!

Anyone on this group who have become blind or lost sight in their late 20s or 
later?

Please connect with me on 011 26472581

Best,

George


George Abraham
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Re: [AI] The Hindu is asking for subscription? you are also facing the same dillemma?

2019-06-25 Thread Kotian, H P
Yes, even Times Of India app is having e-paper which is an image page.

PostJune 30,  we should take them all to task.

Harish.


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Subject: [AI] The Hindu is asking for subscription? you are also facing the 
same dillemma?

Now, major newspapers have posed new accessibility challenges and are difficult 
to read. I'm unable to read 'today's paper' headlines of Indian Express and HT 
at one page. And the Hindu is asking for subscription like New York Times. Any 
of you also facing the same problem? please revert.

--
Avinash Shahi

Research Associate
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Centre for Law and Policy Research



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Re: [AI] Early intervention

2019-06-24 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi Kanchan

This certainly needs to be looked into.
It needs a high power campaign to bring in awareness.

May be some out of the box approach like inserting this in a popular TV serial.

Harish.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 3:08 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Cc: 'Rama Chari'; ratimi...@rediffmail.com
Subject: [AI] Early intervention

'Parents not told of screening of eyes in pre-term babies' - Times of India

Jun 16, 2019, 08.24 AM IST Printed from MUMBAI: Given India's poor record of 
health data, doctors fear more than 3,000 preterm babies face the risk of 
blindness due to untreated retinopathy of prematurity (ROP). Dr Santosh G 
Honavar, editor of the Indian Journal of Ophthalmology, has noted in a recent 
article that around 20,000 newborns need ROP management. A study undertaken 
closer home by Dr Sucheta Kulkarni of H V Desai Eye Hospital in Pune showed 
that almost three-fourth of the children who had turned blind due to ROP hadn't 
been been screened for the condition. "We looked at the history of 66 children 
who come to our hospital with ROP blindness, and the majority of the parents 
said that they had never been told about the screening," said Dr Kulkarni. 
Screening entails looking at the retina using a special lens; extra blood 
vessels growing throughout the premature baby's retina can be easily spotted 
within a few weeks of birth and treated. Pune district has a network of 
technicians who have the special screening device attached to a digital camera 
that they use to look at a premature baby's eyes and send the image to a doctor 
sitting in H V Desai Hospital. "ROP is detected in metro cities such as Mumbai 
and Pune but there is no system beyond even a few kilometres outside city 
limits," she said. Incidentally, most of the affected children in Dr Kulkarni's 
study were born in smaller cities that now boast NICUs. Pediatrician Dr 
Bhupendra Awasthi of Surya Hospital, Santa Cruz, said ROP is now routinely 
detected and treated in cities such as Mumbai. "There has been a lot of 
improvement in the last five years," he said. "The rule is that every child 
born before 32 weeks of pregnancy should be screened for ROP," he added. Dr 
Jalali said ROP-related blindness seems worse because it is preventable. "As 
these blind babies grow up, all healthcare personnel will have to answer them 
as to why they went blind when knowledge and technology were known at least 30 
years ago in countries from where we imported the incubator and newborn 
survival technology," said Dr Jalali, adding that "safety nets should have been 
transferred along with technology". The Indian Retinopathy of Prematurity
(iROP) Society of India is holding a meeting in PGIMER, Chandigarh, next week 
to discuss ways to generate awareness among doctors and parents about this 
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[AI] Useful information for Orbit reader

2019-06-20 Thread Kotian, H P
All
The following post did not get on the list.
Harish

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You can now upgrade Orbit Reader from the SD card, without being tied to a 
Windows PC:
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सादर,
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Re: [AI] Promoting XL cinema app

2019-06-20 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi Kanchan

I checked, you can use a blue-tooth device. Otherwise, headphone is mandatory. 
Again headphone is not mandatory for trailers.

Harish.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 6:56 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Promoting XL cinema app

Can I use the ap without headphones? 

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Kotian, H P
Sent: 19 June 2019 14:16
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Promoting XL cinema app

Hi Abhisar

I forwarded your concerns to her. However, you can also speak to her directly 
on 09811787959- Dipti Prasad.

She also welcomes any queries
Regards
Harish

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Abhisar Waghmare
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 1:27 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Promoting XL cinema app

I understand the situation of the developers. 
I personally had a poor experience regarding the audio ticket availability. 
I watched most of the movies even before the audio  ticket was made available 
so that is the only issue I see from my side Lets try if we can get the film 
industry people release the audio tickets more sooner. 

Best Regards-
Abhisar


> On 19-Jun-2019, at 12:49, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> The AD is released simuntaneously along with the movie launch. This app is 
> made for that so that there is no wait for it.
> Regarding it not being available for all movies. The issue is essentially 
> there seems to be no numbers justifying budget towards it. This is 
> essentially for us to show the numbers. One can get data how many downloads 
> were there for each movies.   
> 
> So far we were in a chicken and egg dilemma. We have now broken free from it. 
> It is possible to get exact umbers. 
> 
> The gap now seems from the VI community. not many folks have downloaded the 
> app and those who have not downloaded the audio track.
> 
> The ball is essentially in our court. If there is no demand for this service, 
> surely it is bound to die.  
> 
> The app developers have struck the panick button and have gone all out to get 
> the numbers. If we don't respond timely we will have to kiss it good bye.
> 
> If the end users are facing any challenges, pl bring it forth. It would be 
> possible to work it out. But there is no solution for apathy.
> 
> Harish.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Abhisar Waghmare
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 5:52 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Promoting XL cinema app
> 
> The audio description ticket is not available for many of the movies and also 
> if it is made available, The availability is made significantly long time 
> after the movie has been launched.  
> I personally don’t like waiting that long to watch a movie
> 
> Best Regards-
> Abhisar
> 
> 
>> On 18-Jun-2019, at 17:00, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>> 
>> All
>> 
>> I got this request from the developer of XL cinema app. It is a matter of 
>> concern, this wonderful app is not finding no takers.
>> Very few persons have used this app. In one hand we crib for inaccessibility 
>> and on the other hand we simply ignore when accessibility is especially 
>> worked on.
>> 
>> Her is message is below. Pl at least provide positive comments on the 
>> app start with. This will be really helping us Harish.
>> 
>> Hello to all. My name is Dipti Prasad co-founder of xlcinema 
>> application. XLCINEMA is a mobile application which allows users to 
>> listen to audio description track in a live theater while sitting 
>> with others using their headphones. We have done movies like sanju, 
>> andhadun, thackeray, raw, etc. For getting more movies onboard I need 
>> your help, if you can please download the app from playstore/ 
>> appstore and write a review demanding upcoming movies such as 
>> Article15, Saaho or any movie which you wish to watch in the 
>> theaters. Please help us in proving the demand for AD track to the 
>> producers/content owners because they believe there are not many 
>> people in India who need AD track. Thankyou very very much inadvance!
>> Click below to download
>> http://onelink.noclick_noclick_noclick_

Re: [AI] Promoting XL cinema app

2019-06-19 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi Abhisar

I forwarded your concerns to her. However, you can also speak to her directly 
on 09811787959- Dipti Prasad.

She also welcomes any queries
Regards
Harish

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Abhisar Waghmare
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 1:27 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Promoting XL cinema app

I understand the situation of the developers. 
I personally had a poor experience regarding the audio ticket availability. 
I watched most of the movies even before the audio  ticket was made available 
so that is the only issue I see from my side Lets try if we can get the film 
industry people release the audio tickets more sooner. 

Best Regards-
Abhisar


> On 19-Jun-2019, at 12:49, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> The AD is released simuntaneously along with the movie launch. This app is 
> made for that so that there is no wait for it.
> Regarding it not being available for all movies. The issue is essentially 
> there seems to be no numbers justifying budget towards it. This is 
> essentially for us to show the numbers. One can get data how many downloads 
> were there for each movies.   
> 
> So far we were in a chicken and egg dilemma. We have now broken free from it. 
> It is possible to get exact umbers. 
> 
> The gap now seems from the VI community. not many folks have downloaded the 
> app and those who have not downloaded the audio track.
> 
> The ball is essentially in our court. If there is no demand for this service, 
> surely it is bound to die.  
> 
> The app developers have struck the panick button and have gone all out to get 
> the numbers. If we don't respond timely we will have to kiss it good bye.
> 
> If the end users are facing any challenges, pl bring it forth. It would be 
> possible to work it out. But there is no solution for apathy.
> 
> Harish.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Abhisar Waghmare
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 5:52 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Promoting XL cinema app
> 
> The audio description ticket is not available for many of the movies and also 
> if it is made available, The availability is made significantly long time 
> after the movie has been launched.  
> I personally don’t like waiting that long to watch a movie
> 
> Best Regards-
> Abhisar
> 
> 
>> On 18-Jun-2019, at 17:00, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>> 
>> All
>> 
>> I got this request from the developer of XL cinema app. It is a matter of 
>> concern, this wonderful app is not finding no takers.
>> Very few persons have used this app. In one hand we crib for inaccessibility 
>> and on the other hand we simply ignore when accessibility is especially 
>> worked on.
>> 
>> Her is message is below. Pl at least provide positive comments on the 
>> app start with. This will be really helping us Harish.
>> 
>> Hello to all. My name is Dipti Prasad co-founder of xlcinema 
>> application. XLCINEMA is a mobile application which allows users to 
>> listen to audio description track in a live theater while sitting 
>> with others using their headphones. We have done movies like sanju, 
>> andhadun, thackeray, raw, etc. For getting more movies onboard I need 
>> your help, if you can please download the app from playstore/ 
>> appstore and write a review demanding upcoming movies such as 
>> Article15, Saaho or any movie which you wish to watch in the 
>> theaters. Please help us in proving the demand for AD track to the 
>> producers/content owners because they believe there are not many 
>> people in India who need AD track. Thankyou very very much inadvance! 
>> Click below to download 
>> http://onelink.noclick_noclick_to/nrgxth<http://onelink.noclick_nocli
>> ck_noclick_to/nrg
>> xth>
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> passwords, etc. It never keeps or offers funds to anyone. Please do not 
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>> 
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Re: [AI] Promoting XL cinema app

2019-06-19 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi

The AD is released simuntaneously along with the movie launch. This app is made 
for that so that there is no wait for it.
Regarding it not being available for all movies. The issue is essentially there 
seems to be no numbers justifying budget towards it. This is essentially for us 
to show the numbers. One can get data how many downloads were there for each 
movies.   

So far we were in a chicken and egg dilemma. We have now broken free from it. 
It is possible to get exact umbers. 

The gap now seems from the VI community. not many folks have downloaded the app 
and those who have not downloaded the audio track.

The ball is essentially in our court. If there is no demand for this service, 
surely it is bound to die.  

The app developers have struck the panick button and have gone all out to get 
the numbers. If we don't respond timely we will have to kiss it good bye.

If the end users are facing any challenges, pl bring it forth. It would be 
possible to work it out. But there is no solution for apathy.

Harish.
 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Abhisar Waghmare
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 5:52 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Promoting XL cinema app

The audio description ticket is not available for many of the movies and also 
if it is made available, The availability is made significantly long time after 
the movie has been launched.  
I personally don’t like waiting that long to watch a movie

Best Regards-
Abhisar


> On 18-Jun-2019, at 17:00, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> 
> All
> 
> I got this request from the developer of XL cinema app. It is a matter of 
> concern, this wonderful app is not finding no takers.
> Very few persons have used this app. In one hand we crib for inaccessibility 
> and on the other hand we simply ignore when accessibility is especially 
> worked on.
> 
> Her is message is below. Pl at least provide positive comments on the 
> app start with. This will be really helping us Harish.
> 
> Hello to all. My name is Dipti Prasad co-founder of xlcinema 
> application. XLCINEMA is a mobile application which allows users to 
> listen to audio description track in a live theater while sitting with 
> others using their headphones. We have done movies like sanju, 
> andhadun, thackeray, raw, etc. For getting more movies onboard I need 
> your help, if you can please download the app from playstore/ appstore 
> and write a review demanding upcoming movies such as Article15, Saaho 
> or any movie which you wish to watch in the theaters. Please help us 
> in proving the demand for AD track to the producers/content owners 
> because they believe there are not many people in India who need AD 
> track. Thankyou very very much inadvance! Click below to download 
> http://onelink.noclick_to/nrgxth<http://onelink.noclick_noclick_to/nrg
> xth>
> 
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[AI] Promoting XL cinema app

2019-06-18 Thread Kotian, H P
All

I got this request from the developer of XL cinema app. It is a matter of 
concern, this wonderful app is not finding no takers.
Very few persons have used this app. In one hand we crib for inaccessibility 
and on the other hand we simply ignore when accessibility is especially worked 
on.

Her is message is below. Pl at least provide positive comments on the app start 
with. This will be really helping us
Harish.

Hello to all. My name is Dipti Prasad co-founder of xlcinema application. 
XLCINEMA is a mobile application which allows users to listen to audio 
description track in a live theater while sitting with others using their 
headphones. We have done movies like sanju, andhadun, thackeray, raw, etc. For 
getting more movies onboard I need your help, if you can please download the 
app from playstore/ appstore and write a review demanding upcoming movies such 
as Article15, Saaho or any movie which you wish to watch in the theaters. 
Please help us in proving the demand for AD track to the producers/content 
owners because they believe there are not many people in India who need AD 
track. Thankyou very very much inadvance! Click below to download
http://onelink.to/nrgxth



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[AI] FW: Sidharth Anantha Uses ‘Echolocation’ To Assist The Lives Of The Visually Impaired

2019-06-17 Thread Kotian, H P

Forwarding:
Regards
Harish.

-Original Message-
From: Balaji Varadarajan [mailto:hello.balajivaradara...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 8:25 AM
To: Kotian, H P
Subject: Fwd: Sidharth Anantha Uses ‘Echolocation’ To Assist The Lives Of The 
Visually Impaired

Harish, this post did not go through.

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From: Balaji Varadarajan 
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2019 22:43:35 +0530
Subject: Sidharth Anantha Uses ‘Echolocation’ To Assist The Lives Of The 
Visually Impaired
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled." 

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[AI] Safe cooking, final video

2019-06-03 Thread Kotian, H P


All
The following mail from Sushmita (VoiceVision) failed to get on the list.

Copying it below:
Regards
Harish.
Quoting:
Hello Members

Sharing with you our safe cooking phase 2, final video link.
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Re: [AI] Unable to download books from Sugamya Pustakalaya

2019-06-02 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi Kriya
You can log either with your login ID number or the email ID. The password is 
the same for them both.

Harish.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Kriya Jain
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 11:01 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: [AI] Unable to download books from Sugamya Pustakalaya

Hi all,
I have put up download requests for a few books on Sugamya Pustakalaya. The 
response mail asks me to login with my user ID number. I don't know what my 
User ID number is as I login on their website with my email ID.
Till date I have never been able to download any book from their website.
Please guide me how I can download books.

Thanks and Regards
Kriya Jain


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[AI] Request for contact using Calipre

2019-05-27 Thread Kotian, H P


All
A colleague of mine wanted contact of any users who have used calipers by 
ottobock.

Wanted to know the quality, durability of their product. The price is rather 
expensive.

Finally whether they are having any information regarding reimbursement at 
their work place.

Regards
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Re: [AI] Mumbai visit

2019-05-24 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
There are basically 3 categories of coaches in local train: general coaches 
where everyone can travel including women, only ladies coach and there are also 
coaches for disabled persons. This coach will be most suitable for you and 1 
escort is permitted so your wife can be your escort. Your daughter is too 
small, so that is not a issue. There signage on the platform to indicate the 
position of the coach for the disabled.
You don't need to take ticket for her too.

There are city tour services, alternatively, you can take a train to Churchgate 
or CSMT and take a cab for the entire day or even take cab point to point.
You can move towards your place of stay and that would make it easy for you.

Harish.
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
pratik shah
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 10:21 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: [AI] Mumbai visit

Hello everyone,
I am going to visit Mumbai with my wife and 3 years old daughter  for three 
days. I want to know what will be the best way of transportation to see various 
places there? My wife is not VI but I am blind. I heard that in local train, 
ladies have to travel in separate coach. We will be visiting Mumbai for the 
first time just to see various places in this vacation for three days.
Please guide especially those who are living at Mumbai.

--
"Condemn none: if you can stretch out a helping hand, do so. If you cannot, 
fold your hands, bless your brothers, and let them go their own way. . - Swami 
Vivekananda "
Mr. Pratik Shah
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(M.Com,NET )
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Re: [AI] SBI ATM throwing transaction error while withdrawing with speech assistance

2019-05-17 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
I would suggest you lodge a complaint in the support helpdesk by email 
detailing the problem.
You may also do so in social media for faster resolution.

Regards
Harish Kotian

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Avee Gupta
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 11:58 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] SBI ATM throwing transaction error while withdrawing with speech 
assistance

Hi all,
Hope all are fine .
Since last week state bank of india ATM'S are throwing transaction error when i 
withdraw cash through there machines with help of there in built speech 
assistance .
Speech assistance is working fine in all menus but after following all steps 
for cash withdrawal finally in the end no cash comes out and a verbal message 
of transaction error is reported.

I tried withdrawing money with help of sighted assistance and didnt face any 
issue as the machine is working absolutely fine for sighted persons.
I tried about 4 SBI ATM's  in our locality all facing same issue for blind and 
working good for sighted  so please anyone tell is there any software issue 
with the speech assistance in bankATM  or due to the upgradation of there ATM 
machines i am facing this issue, as earlier we have to insert the card in the 
slot and remove but now the card gets locked in the given slot in the new ATM 
machines deployed about
15 days back in our city.
All people working in state bank would be of great help in this regard.
This inaccessibility issue should be immediately escalated to the management .

Thanks
Avee Gupta
9406862456

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Re: [AI] Query regarding human assistance with AirAsia at the Bangalore Airport

2019-05-15 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
As per DICGC guidelines, we have the right for dignified travel. Continuing 
with it, it is necessary for us to intimate the airlines in advance.

Rights and duty goes side by side mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Amit Bhatt
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 11:56 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding human assistance with AirAsia at the 
Bangalore Airport

Although all Airlines staff do take care of visually impaired passengers
these days, however, I would mark Indigo staff and their servicess with best
rating amongst all domestic airlines.

They also provide you with Braille list of instructions and products to be
sold in the flight.

Their behaviour and level of courtesy is also highly appreciated during
entire journey.

Thanks,

Amit Bhatt
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From: "john clayton" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled." 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding human assistance with AirAsia at the
Bangalore Airport


> Hi,
> Last year, I asked the same thing on this list, and most people suggested
> that I should get in touch with the CS of the airlines I was flying with
> and let them know that I was blind/ visually impaired, and I would be
> needing asisstence and they would take care of the rest, and they were
> right.
> Thank you guys, btw. The experience was so awesome, that I was rather
> surprised and really, traveling/ flying alone is the easiest thing, ever.
> Its the clocest to hassel free travel that you are likely to come across
> being blind.
>
> That was my first time flying/ traveling alone, so I was a bit aprihencive
> to be sure, but it all went very smoothly!
> I have no clue if it varys with the different airlines, as I flew with
> indigo back then, and based on the excellent experience have been flying
> with them ever since.
> I was flyingg from Mumbai to kolkata and back, whilst both the times they
> were really nice, the mumbai to kolkata flight was something else
> entirely.
> When I asked for asisstence at the reservation counter, they did call a
> staffer to help me out, but the manager Pervaiz if I remember right came
> around himself, and decided that he would escort me instead.
> He zoomed me through the whole boarding process, was dam fine and
> explained stuff, and had my seat upgraded, talk about being nice!
> The cabin crew from Mumbai to Kolkata were very nice and really
> welcomeing, and went into  rather detailed explanation of stuff as I
> suppose they must, and were the dam most friendly bunch of hostess's I
> have
> ever come across.though the kolkata to mumbai crew were rather snooty not
> really unproffessional though, but not as warm and friendly, but then I
> was
> too tired to give a dam. :D
> So yeah, informing in advance isn't necessary, but can be good if you do
> it, and stuff ought to go decently well from there on, fingers crossed, of
> course.
> Do let us know how it goes for you
>
>
>
> On Tue, 14 May 2019 at 11:14, avinash shahi 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>> What if I reach at the check in counter of Air asia at Blr Airport
>> directly, will they provide escort to help in boarding? how has been
>> your experience in the past? do share or should I inform them in
>> advance?
>> I'll wait for your quick response.
>> --
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>> Research Associate at Centre for Law and Policy Research and Doctoral
>> student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
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Re: [AI] Beyond Braille series brings to blind children a new visual language

2019-05-14 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
Seems very interesting.
Harish


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Ramya Venkitesh
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 4:30 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Beyond Braille series brings to blind children a new visual 
language

Source: Newz Hook 

It's called Ranchhod Sees the World and it's an illustration picture book about 
Ranchhod Soni, a visually impaired teacher in Gujarat, who has not disability 
come in the way of discovering new things.

Bringing his story alive in a vivid and vibrant way for the first time is the 
Beyond Braille series which claims to offer breakthrough research to help 
visually impaired people visualise and imagine the world.

This is perhaps the first time, says Nupur Agarwal,Founder, Beyond Braille that 
visually impaired readers would get the opportunity to feel the shapes of 
objects/figures in the pictures. The idea was triggered while Nupur was doing 
her Masters at CEPT University in Ahmedabad.

I worked on the concept of a tactile picture book for the visually impaired 
community, exploring and developing it further with different mediums and 
materials, I created a 3D printed and embossed version of the illustration 
picture book for the visually impaired community. It opens the gate of 
potential possibilities for the community to explore picture books like never 
before. This would improve their learning, speed and efficiency, thereby 
improving their quality of living. Moreover, this invention would make the 
learning process more enjoyable. - Nupur Agarwal, Founder, Beyond Braille

Nupur also hopes that the series will also help raise awareness about the 
community as an "equally abled" group rather than disabled or a distinct group.

"The idea of making it a children's book was so to instill the idea of equality 
from the start and the need to build an inclusive world", she says.
This, Nupur, felt was important as experience has shown that many non-disabled 
people are unsure, even scared, of interacting with people with disabilities.

Behind the final creation lay months of intense research by Nupur and her team 
in finding the best materials, Braille text and other methods.
Initially, she created the book manually with the use of thread as the primary 
material. "After the project, I took a year's break when I worked as a designer 
and thought of ways to mass produce this. I found a 3D designer and printer who 
were willing to collaborate," she adds.

She simultaneously worked on the storytelling, going through the process of 
capturing the story, rhyming it, reading it, and imagining it from a child's 
perspective.

"The children were so fascinated when their fingertips touched and felt the 
illustrations for the first time", says Vidhi Tulsyan, a project volunteer.
"This was my first time working with visually impaired kids and it was all very 
new and refreshing. We went to the blind school in Surat, interacted with kids 
there and they were really into the project. It feels great to be a part of 
this."

If you want to know more about Beyond Braille, visit the website 
http://beyondbraille.noclick_com/. You can also order the book here.

ALSO READ: 'Look Out Look Within' explores the world of inclusion through the 
lens of friendship 

Thanks & Regards

Ramya Venkitesh |Head New Initiatives

Newz Hook 

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Re: [AI] Disability related chat bot

2019-05-14 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi Ankit
That sounds comforting regarding privacy. However, can you let us know of some 
scenarios where we can use it apart from knowing about PWD act and what other 
assistants fail to do.

This can help us where and how to explore this tool.

Harish.

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Ankit rajiv Jindal
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 1:08 PM
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disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability related chat bot

Dear Harish.

Firstly, thank you. We appreciate you taking time from your busy schedule to 
try Mera Mitra & to send in your inputs.
We are glad that you find the solution interesting and called it a step in the 
right direction. Our team is working to get new features to make Mera Mitra 
experience better & useful for the community.
Mera Mitra currently doesn’t have support for “send this info via email”.
However, our team is already working on incorporating this feature and we
shall   keep you all informed on as and when we have support for the same.
We understand your concerns with regards to sign-up process. At the outset, let 
me assure that we are collecting very basic user’s information.
Information collected via Mera Mitra will not be transferred to any third 
parties. There is NO other information that Mera Mitra stores, including access 
to your contacts in mobile phonebook. The sign-up provides us the potential to 
add several personalization, including the feature to “send this info via 
email”. You will start seeing these rolling out in our subsequent releases.
Nevertheless, I have noted your concerns and we will examine if there is  a way 
to activate an optional sign-in process. Thanks for flagging this off for us.
As we mentioned in our original mail, Mera Mitra is in its infancy, we are are 
excited of its possibilities and we want to make it better, for the community, 
with the community. Please continue to send in your suggestions or comments to 
us via this forum or write to us at i...@meramitra.in or call us at 9535767654 
(Ankit) or 9986708007 (Pratik).


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On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 12:41 PM Saloni Mehta  wrote:

> Thank you, Ankit,
> will check it out on facebook messenger.
>
> Regards,
> Saloni Mehta
> Co-Founder Tactopus <http://www.tactopus.noclick_com/store>
> *Inclusive books for toddlers*
>
> Reach me at +91-805-666-8943
> Follow us on:
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> [image: Facebook] <https://www.facebook.noclick_com/tactopus/> [image:
> Twitter] <https://twitter.noclick_com/tactopus_edu> [image: Instagram]
> <https://www.instagram.noclick_com/tactopus_learning/> [image:
> LinkedIn] <https://www.linkedin.noclick_com/company/tactopus/>
> <https://www.youtube.noclick_com/channel/UCEOY18fU_u7oPab5Sc4o-1w>
>
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 12:03 PM Ankit rajiv Jindal <
> ankitjinda...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Dear saloni,
> >
> > Thanks for your mail.
> >
> > Yes, the chatbot can be accessed via Facebook Messenger.It does not
> > support voice and other smart capabilities as of now. however, One
> > can type in the composer as you do in any other messaging app and
> > seek information from Mera Mitra on Facebook Messenger.
> >
> > You can look up for Mera Mitra in Facebook Messenger and you will
> > find it in the search result.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ankit
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/14/19, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi
> > > I did try it on Google assistant.
> > > The registration process was rather simple. However, I was unhappy
> > > that
> > it
> > > needed to have access to my contact card. I would have ordinarily
> > declined
> > > but to try this app, I consented. I think the developer should
> > > remove
> > this
> > > requirement.
> > >
> > > The interaction with chatbot was smooth. However, when I told it
> > > to
> send
> > the
> > > information by email, it simply got overwhelmed and loged out.
> > >
> > > I suppose, the developers should have taken a little more time
> > > before
> > going
> > > live. I certainly back the efforts and it can become very handy tool.
> > There
> > > are lot more cenerios where it can be effectively used. It is a
> > > step in
> > the
> > > right direction and the tool can grow better only if we use it
> > extensively.
> > >
> > > However, I do insist the requirement of taking access to our
> > > contact
> > should
> > > be dropped.
> > >
> &g

Re: [AI] test.

2019-05-14 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
Even this and all of your mails are reaching the list.
If you want to be doubly sure, check on the mail archive link which appears in 
the footer of every AImails.

In some time, it will show up in the archives.
Harish.

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To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: [AI] test.

Friends, unfortunately my mails are not reaching to the list.

I request the moderator to look into the issue.






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Re: [AI] Disability related chat bot

2019-05-13 Thread Kotian, H P



Hi
I did try it on Google assistant.
The registration process was rather simple. However, I was unhappy that it 
needed to have access to my contact card. I would have ordinarily declined but 
to try this app, I consented. I think the developer should remove this 
requirement.

The interaction with chatbot was smooth. However, when I told it to send the 
information by email, it simply got overwhelmed and loged out.

I suppose, the developers should have taken a little more time before going 
live. I certainly back the efforts and it can become very handy tool. There are 
lot more cenerios where it can be effectively used. It is a step in the right 
direction and the tool can grow better only if we use it extensively.

However, I do insist the requirement of taking access to our contact should be 
dropped.

Regards
Harish

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Saloni Mehta
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 6:47 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Disability related chat bot

Hi Ankit & Pratik,
Kudos! A single-stop access to information platform is much required.
Is it possible to access this information via a mechanism that does not invoke 
the google assistant? Maybe a hangouts chatbot or a web portal?
Please let me know.

Regards,
Saloni Mehta
Co-Founder Tactopus
www.tactopus.noclick_com

Reach me at +91-805-666-8943
Follow us on:

[image: Facebook] <https://www.facebook.noclick_com/tactopus/> [image: Twitter] 
<https://twitter.noclick_com/tactopus_edu> [image: Instagram] 
<https://www.instagram.noclick_com/tactopus_learning/> [image: LinkedIn] 
<https://www.linkedin.noclick_com/company/tactopus/>
<https://www.youtube.noclick_com/channel/UCEOY18fU_u7oPab5Sc4o-1w>


On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 4:51 PM Ankit rajiv Jindal 
wrote:

> Thanks Harish for sharing this with the group.
>
> Hi all, We encourage you to try Mera Mitra. it works on all Google
> Assistant powered devices including Android phones, IOS phones, Google
> Home speakers and Smart TVs.
>
> Mera Mitra is in its infancy and we are excited about the potential
> for a service like this.
>
> In case you have any ideas or feature wishlist or you would like to
> collaborate at mera Mitra, then please write to us at
> i...@meramitra.in or reach us at Ankit - 9535767654 or Pratik 9986708007.
>
>
> Team Mera Mitra
> Ankit & Pratik
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 1:53 PM Kotian, H P  wrote:
>
> >
> > All
> > I guess, this info would interest everyone.
> > Harish.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > A chatbot for all your disability-information needs
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ask a question related to RPWD Act 2016 or read a section, for
> > example "section 28".
> > Know about concepts related to disability such as assistive
> > technology, accessibility, etc.
> > And much more, including important disability dates, for example
> > "when is the World Disability Day?"
> >
> > Basically, everything about disability you always wanted to ask but
> > never knew whom to ask or do not have access to people who can
> > provide you the answers in a simple language.
> >
> > The chatbot is an invaluable resource for persons with disability,
> > disability advocacy groups, organizations working in this field,
> employers,
> > and for every one of those who has a friend, family or a colleague
> > with disability.
> >
> > Here is an introductory video on the Mera Mitra chatbot.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Introduction to Mera Mitra
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > How to use Mera Mitra.
> >
> > Since it is a chatbot that you can use within Google Assistant you
> > don't need to install an extra app on your mobile phone. Just do the
> > following
> in
> > the beginning:
> >
> > Invoke the Google Assistant app by either saying "OK Google" or by
> tapping
> > the Google Assistant icon/ button on your device.
> > If the Google Assistant app is in the listening mode, say "talk to
> > Mera Mitra".
> > Since you will be using the chatbot for the first time, it will
> > prompt
> you
> > to register your name which simply takes a single tap.
> >
> > That's it. The next time you need to ask something of Mera Mitra
> > simply say, "OK Google, talk to Mera Mitra".
> >
> > After that, the chatbot will prompt you to ask your question and it
> &

[AI] Disability related chat bot

2019-05-13 Thread Kotian, H P


All
I guess, this info would interest everyone.
Harish.









A chatbot for all your disability-information needs





Ask a question related to RPWD Act 2016 or read a section, for example "section 
28".
Know about concepts related to disability such as assistive technology, 
accessibility, etc.
And much more, including important disability dates, for example "when is the 
World Disability Day?"

Basically, everything about disability you always wanted to ask but never knew 
whom to ask or do not have access to people who can provide you the answers in 
a simple language.

The chatbot is an invaluable resource for persons with disability, disability 
advocacy groups, organizations working in this field, employers, and for every 
one of those who has a friend, family or a colleague with disability.

Here is an introductory video on the Mera Mitra chatbot.








Introduction to Mera Mitra







How to use Mera Mitra.

Since it is a chatbot that you can use within Google Assistant you don't need 
to install an extra app on your mobile phone. Just do the following in the 
beginning:

Invoke the Google Assistant app by either saying "OK Google" or by tapping the 
Google Assistant icon/ button on your device.
If the Google Assistant app is in the listening mode, say "talk to Mera Mitra".
Since you will be using the chatbot for the first time, it will prompt you to 
register your name which simply takes a single tap.

That's it. The next time you need to ask something of Mera Mitra simply say, 
"OK Google, talk to Mera Mitra".

After that, the chatbot will prompt you to ask your question and it will give 
you the answer.

Alternatively, you can also type in the Google Assistant app to invoke and 
interact with Mera Mitra. Open the Google Assistant app on your mobile phone, 
use the composer below & write "talk to Mera Mitra" and hit the send button. 
Follow the prompts to set up your account and that's it. You can chat with Mera 
Mitra using text   inputs as you chat with any other friend.

So, what are you waiting for? "Talk to Mera Mitra" now!

Disclaimer: The Mera Mitra chatbot is still at its nascent stage, you can 
easily call it a work in progress. We are constantly adding new capabilities to 
it. We welcome suggestions and inputs from you so that we can make this chatbot 
more powerful.

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For latest updates on Mera Mitra please visit our website  www.meramitra.in or 
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Re: [AI] Information regarding voice editing and recording software

2019-03-29 Thread Kotian, H P
Hello

Pl make such requests directly to the concerned persons and not on the list.
Query can be made on the list, when you are not sure who is having the 
solution. In this case, you are aware  Gunjan is having your solution, then why 
do need to put the request to the group?


This way we can reduce needless traffic and be mindful of others time.

Harish Kotian

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Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 4:57 PM
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disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Information regarding voice editing and recording software

I am requesting you please send me that software and please send me along with 
that how do I install that software in my computer I have Windows 10 PC

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 4:29 PM gunjan kumari  wrote:

> Hello friends
> I have been using Gold Wave for quite sometime and needless to say
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>
> Thanks and regards
>
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> > i can do voice editing and recording. I am using windows 10. I have
> > tried audacity but i did not know it's shortcut keys.
> >
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[AI] Moderator: RE: Making of a WhatsApp group containing all the members of the access India mailing list

2019-03-27 Thread Kotian, H P
All

Considering all the inputs, it is evident, we are in an almost consensus not to 
the change the characteristic of our mailing list.

So, let us move ahead and not linger on this topic any more.

Regards
Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Arjun Sajeevan
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:51 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Making of a WhatsApp group containing all the members of the 
access India mailing list

Yes it a good Idea ..
Is there any whatapp group gave any government or private job notification for 
visually impaired I am interested too

Arjun A S
Mob. No - 7907485040






On Thu, 28 Mar 2019, 9:21 am Shadab Husain,  wrote:

> One bright sunny day, two friends, Ramu and Shamu, went hiking in the
> fresh mountain air. They spotted a tiger drinking water from a stream
> far in the distance.
>
> Ramu said to climb up on the walnut tree, but Shamu, pointing to his
> right, said, "I think that banyan tree would be better."
>
> "No," frowning, said Ramu, "coconut."
>
> A long debate discussing the pros and cons of both the trees sparked
> off. Tiger came dangerously close...
>
> Hmm, email or Whatsapp. Scores of far more important issues are lying
> unaddressed: Marriage for the blind, fake disability certificates,
> greater accessibility, education&employment etc., and here we're
> having deep deliberations on a nonissue.
>
> Astounding, isn’t it?
>
> Whoever prefers Whatsapp can make a group and post it here; interested
> people are free to join. Let's put a full stop at this discussion of
> “so serious a nature.”
>
> Tiger is coming close.
>
>
> On 3/28/19, George Abraham  wrote:
> > My experience says NO!
> >
> > George
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf
> > Of Santosh Gandigude
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 12:05 PM
> > To: Access India
> > Subject: Re: [AI] Making of a WhatsApp group containing all the
> > members
> of
> > the access India mailing list
> >
> > Is the telegram accessible to Visually Impaired?
> >
> > On Tue 26 Mar, 2019, 11:59 Siva Suresh, 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi friends.
> >>
> >> this is just my understanding. 1. what is the advantage of creating
> >> whatsap group?
> >> 2. do we get any extra information through this group? 3. how is it
> >> will be a benefit if i join this group?4. will the accessindia
> >> whatsap group different from other whatsap groups? I meen to ask
> >> does it has a separate guide lines which are different from accessindia 
> >> guide lines?
> >> Thank you. Shivasuresh
> >>
> >> On 3/26/19, Amit Bhatt  wrote:
> >> > I endorse your opinion.
> >> >
> >> > By creating such group on whatsap or instagram, we will lose the
> >> > significants of a mailing list.
> >> >
> >> > This would be a tedious practise to post long and detailed
> >> > messages using mobile devices. You cannot enjoy the writing on
> >> > mobile device which you
> >> do
> >> > enjoy using your PC.
> >> >
> >> > Beside this, it would be an extra burdon on moble to clutter with
> >> > so many voice notes and chats.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Amit  Bhatt
> >> > - Original Message -
> >> > From: 
> >> > To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> >> concerning
> >> >
> >> > the disabled.'" 
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 10:29 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [AI] Making of a WhatsApp group containing all the
> >> > members
> >> of
> >> > the access India mailing list
> >> > s wou
> >> >
> >> >> This  is just my opinion.
> >> >> Already, there are couple of WhatsApp groups running across the
> >> >> country for this purpose. And, the group can accommodate only
> >> >> 256 members at a time.
> >> >> This list contains almost 1000 subscribers and, you may not
> >> >> accommodate every 1 from this list.
> >> >> Also, there might be a chances of misusing the contact numbers
> >> >> of the subscribers.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -Original Message-
> >> >> From: AccessIndia  On
> >> >> Behalf Of neha aggarwal
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 7:25 AM
> >> >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> >> >> Subject: [AI] Making of a WhatsApp group containing all the
> >> >> members of the access India mailing list
> >> >>
> >> >> Dear Axis Indians
> >> >> Greetings hope that all is well
> >> >> This is with reference to creating a WhatsApp group consisting
> >> >> of all
> >> the
> >> >> members of the access India mailing list Yes no doubt today
> >> >> emails and
> >> of
> >> >> great significance but after WhatsApp has come in I thought it
> >> >> would be better also to have a WhatsApp group in order to
> >> >> enhance better communication standards Please let me know as to
> >> >> how this idea works out and in my opinion there should be a
> >> >> WhatsApp group With regards
> >> >>
> >> >> 

Re: [AI] Making of a WhatsApp group containing all the members of

2019-03-26 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
We are having about 3000 members. So, no way, we can have so many numbers in a 
group.

There are already groups on Whatsapp catering to this need. All the same, email 
group has its own distinct requirement and need.
Harish




-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Payal Kapoor
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 1:32 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Making of a WhatsApp group containing all the members of

i don't think we need to move this to a Whatsapp group. apart from all the 
reasons that have been already expressed by members, which i endorse myself, 
there are many of us who don't want our mobile numbers floating among the large 
number of members that form a part of this group.
while on this public platform, we safely share our inputs, thoughts and 
knowledge with strangers, it is not the same when sharing contact numbers with 
the same strangers. that information is private until we, as individuals choose 
to share it.
for those who do want to move to the platform, it is a decision they can make 
on their own i am sure.
my thoughts...
Payal

On 3/26/19, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> I endorse your views. also want add little.
>
> 1.  Whatsap is still not fully accessible as we use email through our
> desktop or laptops.
> 2.  I don't stay always online and I don't want my mobile to play
> popup sound after each and every second. it create disturbance to my
> working environment.
> 3.  as email is concerned, it is too easy to me to check accessindia
> mails from time to time while doing my office job.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Reach Now
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 12:43 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] Making of a WhatsApp group containing all the members of
>
> Greetings All:
>
>
>
> I am writing to express my concern regarding any effort made by
> current, past or future members of Access India to transform this
> group into another
>
> garden variety group by transitioning to the Whatsapp platform.
>
>
>
> While it is always an excellent value proposition to scale up to new
> technologies, the rationale needs to be sound and cogent. Those
> members who
>
> have access to the Whatsapp platform also enjoy seamless access to
> email messaging on their cellphones.
>
>
>
> Since email is fully accessible on hand held devices, transitioning to
> the Whatsapp platform makes little sense .
>
>
>
> I will grant that Whatsapp is indeed a more fashionable way to conduct
> communication today. That said, Access India is not about fashion. It
> is about serving a noble cause where hundreds of members help each
> other with their daily challenges. A legacy system needs to be
> genuinely flawed for it
>
> to be abandoned. Moreover, how will those members who use regular
> phones that are not smartphones access the mailing list? Not everyone
> is entirely comfortable with Android and IOS technologies all else being 
> equal.
>
>
>
> Bottom line? I do not find any tangible reasons to discard the email
> protocol when it comes to the access India mailing list. Where this
> discussion goes and eventually terminates is entirely in the hands of
> the moderators. Nevertheless, I thought I would add my two cents worth
> while the
>
> subject is being debated.
>
>
>
> Rajesh
>
> Noida
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 07:24:34 +0530
> From: neha aggarwal 
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] Making of a WhatsApp group containing all the members of
> the access India mailing list
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Dear Axis Indians
> Greetings hope that all is well
> This is with reference to creating a WhatsApp group consisting of all
> the members of the access India mailing list Yes no doubt today emails
> and of great significance but after WhatsApp has come in I thought it
> would be better also to have a WhatsApp group in order to enhance
> better communication standards Please let me know as to how this idea
> works out and in my opinion there should be a WhatsApp group With
> regards
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] query on icici salary account.

2019-03-25 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
Send an email to the manager on the official ID.

Let the manager put in writing why he is not providing all the services. In 
case he does not respond, do send a couple of reminder mails and later you can 
lodge a complaint with Banking Ombudsman of RBI.

It is necessary to have it documented.
Harish


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
shanka...@tech-accessibility.in
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 3:13 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] query on icici salary account.

Hi sir, thanks for the quick and prompt response.
Personally visited the branch and shown the sirculars from the Indian banks 
associations and reserve bank of india. But, we failed to convince him.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia  On Behalf Of Amit 
Bhatt
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 2:58 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] query on icici salary account.

Geting in touch with Customercare of any bank in this regard would not be of 
any help.

Ask your friend to visit the base branch to resolve the issue and produce all 
the relevant circulars in front of the senior officials.
If the problem still persists, do contact me and we will solve this issue.

Warm Regards,

Amit Bhatt

Moderator - SayEverything, an open discussion forum for persons with 
disabilities 
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"A player that makes a team great is more valuable than a great player"

- Original Message -
From: 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.'" 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 2:45 PM
Subject: [AI] query on icici salary account.


> Friends, Greetings.
>
> I am writing this mail on behalf of my friend.
>
> 1 of my friend is working for private company and, after long
> struggle, he got the account with the icici bank.
>
> Now the problem is, he is unable to get the kit.
>
> I personally spoke to the concern person and shown the circular from
> the reserve bank of India. But, we failed to get the facilities such
> as debit card, net banking and so on.
>
> The bank officials are saying him to withdraw the money with the help
> of the bank manager all the time. Also, we tried to contact the
> customer care to speak on this issue. But, when we called the customer
> care, the I v r system asking us to input the debit card number to
> proceed for further.
>
> Also, Almost his 3 months salary got credited with the icici account
> and, now he is unable to draw the money.
>
> I kindly request the list members to suggest some alternative way to
> solve this issue.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] Request for the commands/jestures of Samsung Voice Assistant

2019-03-22 Thread Kotian, H P
All
Pasting below a post which did not get on the list.
Harish Kotian

Quoting:
HI Sri,

When we compare Talkback and Voice Assistant, it's totally depends on the 
choice of the users what they do like because both the Screen Readers perform 
equally well on the Mobile device, however, I have personally found Voice 
Assistant better than TalkBack due to it's  easy commands and gestures.

I am also using Galaxy A50 and here are the commands and gestures of Voice 
Assistant to be used in any Galaxy Mobile device:

Navigating your phone
When you interact with an item on the screen, a rectangular focus surrounds it. 
You can use tap and swipe gestures with your fingers to control the focus. When 
you move it around the screen, Voice Assistant will tell you what it is.

  a.. To hear what's directly under your finger
  tap and drag your finger around the screen.

  b.. To activate an item
  double tap with 1 finger.

  c.. To move the focus box to another item on the screen
  swipe left or right with 1 finger.

  d.. To move to the next or previous page
  dswipe left or right with 2 fingers.

  e.. dswipe left or right with 2 fingers.
  swipe up or down with 2 fingers.

  f.. To scroll up or down through screen content
  swipe side to side with 1 finger (left then right to scroll up, right then 
left to scroll down).

  g.. To move the focus box to the first or last item on the screen
  with 1 finger, swipe up then down to go to the first item, or down then up to 
go to the last item.

 
Doing things quickly
Voice Assistant provides shortcuts for frequently used functions. You can 
change your settings or stop the voice feedback with simple gestures.

  a.. To change voice assistant settings
  swipe left or right with three fingers to select the setting you wish to 
change (listed below), then swipe up or down with 1 finger to adjust.
  - Speech volume: Select the volume level for voice feedback
  - Speech rate: Increase or decrease speech rate
  - Punctuation: Include or omit punctuation in voice feedback
  - Dark screen: Turn screen display on or off
  - Large cursor: Turn on or off a thick border around the focus
  - Cursor color: Select the color of the border around the focus
  - Notification: Open or close the notification panel
  - Sound feedback: Turn sound feedback on or off
  - Vibration feedback: Turn vibration feedback on or off
  - Rapid key input: Use the samsung keyboard and the keypad by tapping keys 
once
  - Focus on speech audio: Reduce the volume of other audio while Voice 
Assistant reads aloud

  b.. To adjust the granularity of what Voice Assistant reads
  swipe up or down with 3 fingers to choose from the different granularities 
listed below, then swipe up or down with 1 finger to implement the selected 
granularity.
  - Character granularity: Read each character
  - Word granularity: Read each word
  - Line granularity: Read 1 line at a time
  - Paragraph granularity: Read 1 paragraph at a time

  c.. To start or stop music or videos
  double tap with 2 fingers. This gesture can also be used to answer an 
incoming call.

  Editing text easily With Voice 
Assistant, you can just swipe your fingers to copy and paste.

  a.. To enable or disable selection mode
  double tap and hold with 2 fingers

  b.. To select characters
  swipe upwards or downwards with 1 finger while selection mode is enabled

  c.. To cut selected characters
  swipe left with 2 fingers

  d.. To paste characters
  swipe right with 2 fingers

  e.. To select all characters
  swipe downwards with 2 fingers

  f.. To copy selected characters
  swipe upwards with 2 fingers

  g.. To move the cursor in an input text field
  press the volume up/down keys

  h.. To move the input cursor to the first or last position
  swipe upwards then downwards or downwards then upwards with 1 finger

  Tailoring Voice Assistant to suit 
your requirements Voice Assistant give you various ways to access information.

  a.. To have voice assistant read aloud the infomation displayed in the status 
bar
  triple tap with 2 fingers. You also can select the specific infomation you 
want hear: time, date, battery power, signal strength, Bluetooth status.

  b.. To have Voice Assistant read aloud the first item to the last item on the 
screen
  tap the screen with 3 fingers.

  c.. To hear items on the screen in order after the currently selected item
  double tap with 3 fingers.

  d.. To hear and copy the last thing voice assistant said
  triple tap with 3 fingers.

  e.. To go back, cancel, or close a pop-up
  tap with 4 fingers or swipe up then down with 3 fingers.

  f.. To go to the Home screen
  double tap with 4 fingers or swipe down then up with 3 fingers.

  g.. To list recent apps
  triple tap with 4 fingers

  Getting started with voice 
assistant
  a.. To get a full step-by-step tutorial
  go to Settings > Accessibility > Vision > Voice Assistant help.



Do let me know if you also require Voice Assistant Keyboard shortcuts  to be
u

[AI] Bulk mails

2019-03-18 Thread Kotian, H P
All
I have unsubscribed this user
There was a whole bunch of this mails.
Sorry for this bother.
Harish.





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Re: [AI] New accessible coins for visually impaired people launched by Prime Minister Modi

2019-03-10 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
It is still not released for circulation.
Harish.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Ravi N. Hiremath
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 4:03 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] New accessible coins for visually impaired people launched by 
Prime Minister Modi

Hello, this is a very good move indeed by our honourable prime minister.
However, it would be good to know, where we can get these coins, I mean, it 
takes lot of time to get circulated then we can see them or come into our hands.
Are anywhere any banks have started to circulate them?

On 3/8/19, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
> Good deed.
> But with the other coins also in circulation and all currency notes
> inaccessible, and even digital modes largely inaccessible, blind folk
> are condemned to these coins, symbolically no more than beggars.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of Ramya Venkitesh
> Sent: 08 March 2019 09:38
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] New accessible coins for visually impaired people
> launched by Prime Minister Modi
>
> The issue of accessible currency has been a sticking point with people
> from the visually impaired community in India for over a year now.
> Now, Prime Minister Narendra Modi has released a series of coins that
> are accessible for people with vision impairments. The new coins come
> in different values - ₹1, ₹2, ₹5, ₹10, and ₹20. They come with
> features that will enable people who are blind or with low vision to
> identify them. The coins were launched by the Prime Minister and
> Finance Minister Arun Jaitley in the presence of children with visual 
> impairments.
>
> The PM later tweeted to say, "In the presence of young Divyang
> friends, a new series of visually impaired friendly coins were
> launched. These coins will help the visually impaired greatly".
>
> As per reports, the first ever ₹20 coin will be shaped like a 12-edged
> polygon and will have the design of grains representing agriculture.
> The other coins will be circular with denominations printed in Hindi script.
>
> Read in detail: https://newzhook.noclick_noclick_com/story/21615
>
> Regards
>
> Ramya
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Re: [AI] Fwd: [SayEverything] Regarding SayEverything convention

2019-02-27 Thread Kotian, H P
All
Information here is fine. However discussion of modalities would be out of 
scope for this list.
Pl cooperate.
Regards
Harish Kotian
Moderator


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Lokesh Naik
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 4:52 PM
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Subject: [AI] Fwd: [SayEverything] Regarding SayEverything convention

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From: Lokesh Naik 
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 16:44:08 +0530
Subject: Re: [SayEverything] Regarding SayEverything convention
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Hello and Hi to all !!

I am Lokesh Naik I am very eagerly interested to join these geetherings so do 
fast no problems There is no war at all madam. don't worry !!

On 2/27/19, Sandesh via SayEverything
 wrote:
> Good idea Amit!
>
> come to consensus and let us know.
>
>   Vande Mataram
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Amit Bhatt, Moderator - SayEverything via SayEverything
>   To: an open discussion forum for persons with cross disabilities.
>   Cc: Amit Bhatt, Moderator - SayEverything
>   Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 4:27 PM
>   Subject: [SayEverything] Regarding SayEverything convention
>
>
>   Hi all,
>
>   Our last convention was organised in year 2013 in Jodhpur Rajasthan.
> We were suppose to hold next convention around year 2016 2017 but due
> to lack of support and fulfilment our requirement, convention is still 
> awaited.
>
>   We have an opportunity to organize 5th national convention of
> SayEverything during the coming period of May June 2019 in Bangalare.
>
>   I wanted to know the members views and interest towards this proposal.
>
>   Many things depend on our supporters and joint organisers such as
> availability of dates, accommodation etc.
>
>   We have still 2 3 months in our hand and if we are nicely supported
> by our partners, we can make it happened.
>
>   Please do let me know about your opinion. So I can talk to the team
> behind arranging the entire program.
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>   Thanks,
>
>   Amit Bhatt
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Re: [AI] Suggestions needed: For Parents to communicate to their young daughter about her disability

2019-02-25 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
To add, let them ensure there is no sharp or protruding objects at home which 
can potentially hurt her.

Children adapt very quickly and let her do just that.
 Other kids will also mingle well. 
Harish

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 10:19 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Suggestions needed: For Parents to communicate to their young 
daughter about her disability

Nobody told me explicitly about my disability in my childhood.
It dawns upon oneself through normal interactions.
They have done wrong by restricting her for so long.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
turab chimthanawala
Sent: 25 February 2019 18:19
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Suggestions needed: For Parents to communicate to their young 
daughter about her disability

Hi all,
Today while leaving from the BMC canteen after lunch, I was stopped by an old 
lady. Her grand daughter about 4 has no sight in 1 eye from birth. Per the 
lady, the baby has considerable sight in the other eye.
The lady was concerned that she and her children have not yet been able to 
communicate with the baby girl about her disability. They have been 
apprehensive of admitting to a school as also allow her to run and play with 
other kids.
This has caused a major road block as the kid as also relatives and people 
around are confused at their strange behaviour.
Eagerly await inputs on
1. How to sensitise the kid about her disability.
2. The way forward.
(They have consulted opthamologists about plausible treatment, to no avail and 
now are interested in rehab) Thanking you Best Turab


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[AI] Social audit

2019-02-12 Thread Kotian, H P
All
Copying a mail as requested.
Regards
Harish.

Quoting:
Dear Harish!

Warm greetings from New Delhi.

I am pasting hereunder an email which I sent to the Hon'ble Minister of Social 
Justice and Empowerment, govt. of India which speaks for itself. I feel this is 
an important matter, and to my knowledge, nobody has so far raised it. Kindly 
post it on acces India Group.


To

The Hon'ble Minister of Social Justice and Empowerment,

Govt. of India,

Shastri Bhavan,

New Delhi

Dated 13th April, 2019

Subject: Social Audit of schemes and programmes as mandated under RPD Act, 2016.

Respected sir!

Warm greetings from New Delhi!

This is to impress upon you the need for taking appropriate and urgent action 
on a matter which has significant implications on the lives of persons with 
disabilities. I do sincerely hope that this communication of mine does not meet 
the same fate as its predecesors, i.e., my earlier communications containing my 
humble suggestions on important matters as they all went unresponded.

I am sure you will see eye to eye with me when I submit that the benign Govt. 
may agree or disabree; or for that matter, accept or reject any or all of my 
suggestions, but they certainly merit response. I do have an open mind; and, I 
am always willing to be convinced otherwise if there is good reason and solid 
justification for doing so. Likewise, I do hope that the govt. is also willing 
to be convinced about my submissions appreciating the merit inherent in them.

Sir! Having said as above, I wish to draw your kind attention to Section 48 of 
the Rights of Persons with Disabilities Act, 2016 which runs as follows:

48. The appropriate Government shall undertake social audit of all general 
schemes and programmes involving the persons with disabilities to ensure that 
the scheme and programmes do not have an adverse impact upon the persons with 
disabilities and need the requirements and concerns of persons with 
disabilities.

Sir! You may so kindly be pleased to appreciate that both the parent Act, i.e., 
the RPD Act, and also the central Govt. Rules framed thereunder are ominously 
silent about the modus operandi of Section 48; i.e., that is, neither the RPD 
Act nor the rules framed thereunder envisage any implementation mechanism with 
regard to this highly crucial and critical provision on social audit of schemes 
and programmes implemented by the govt. of India in general, and, by  the 
Department of Empowerment of Persons with Disabilities in particular for the 
benefit and well-being of persons with disabilities. The same goes in respect 
of the state Govts and the concerned departments. To my knowledge, even the 
corresponding rules of the state govts which have notified such rules also do 
not contain the modus operandi of the provision relating to social audit.

In the above view of the matter, I would suggest that the corresponding RPD 
rules be suitably amended   in particular to devise appropriate and effective 
mechanism for implementing this important provision relating to social audit.  
The proposed mechanism should, inter alia, include the following: Modus 
operandi; details of eligible  participants, periodicity, and follow-up action 
on the social audit report, ETC. All the state Govts must also be asked to 
follow suit.  The primary stakeholders, i.e., persons with disabilities 
themselves must form integral part of social audit exercise.

I am putting this communication in the public domain in the fervent hope to 
generate constructive discussion and reflection of matters of this ilk.


With very warm regards,


Prasanna Kumar Pincha

Former Chief Commissioner for Persons with Disabilities,
Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment,
govt. of India, New Delhi.

Former chairperson
National Trust for the Welfare of Persons with Autism, Cerebral Palsy, Mental 
Retardation, and Multiple Disabilities,

Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment,
Govt. of India, New Delhi.



Prasanna Kumar Pincha

Former Chief Commissioner for Persons with Disabilities,
Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment,
govt. of India, New Delhi.

Former chairperson
National Trust for the Welfare of Persons with Autism, Cerebral Palsy, Mental 
Retardation, and Multiple Disabilities,

Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment,
Govt. of India, New Delhi.




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[AI] Letter from Shri. Prasanna Kumar Pincha to Minister of Social justice and empowerment

2019-02-12 Thread Kotian, H P


All
Copying below a letter addressed to the Minister for Social Justice and 
Empowerment.
Copying at Shri Prasanna Kumar Pincha's request.
Regards
Harish Kotian
Quoting:

The Hon'ble Minister of Social Justice and Empowerment

Govt. of India, New Delhi

Subject:
Some suggestions for urgent  consideration by Govt.

Respected sir!

Warm greetings from New Delhi!

The purpose of my addressing this mail to you is to request you to kindly 
examine the merit of my following suggestions which, to my mind, have 
significant implications on the lives of persons with disabilities:

1. Firstly, I would like to draw your esteemed attention to the recently 
pronounced judgment of the hon'ble supreme court of India in the matter of one 
Surendramohan  Vs. the state of tamil Nadu and others. This is regarding 
appointment of a person with blindness to the post of Judicial Oficer (civil 
judge). Though I have not read the full text of the said judgment, I am aware 
that the said judgment was pronounced on the basis of the erstwhile Persons 
with Disabilities Act, 1995 albeit we now have in place a way more progressive 
piece of legislation, namely, the Rights of Persons with Disabilities Act, 
2016. The Hon'ble supreme court held that the respondents were well within 
their right to fix minimum degree of disability at 50% in respect of persons 
with blindness and also in respect of persons with speech and hearing 
impairment. It further stated that some ability to see, hear or speak 
was necessary for the dispensation of justice. Thus, Shri Surendra Mohan whose 
degree of blindness is 70% was disqualified for appointment as judicial officer 
(civil judge).

Here, it goes without saying that under  the Rights of Persons with 
disabilities Act, 2016, the  degree of disability is irrelevant in relation to 
benchmark disabilities whose definitions  contain measurable parameters. The 
definitions of Blindness, low vision, Deafness and hard of hearing do contain 
measurable parameters. In other words, measurable parameters are in-built into 
the definitions of sensory disabilities in the RPD Act.

Sir! My humble submission is that the aforesaid judgment will have adverse 
implications on the career prospects of persons with disabilities, more 
particularly, career prospects of persons with blindness. If I am not grossly 
mistaken, it is quite possible that some blind people, maybe very few in number 
are already working as judicial officers in states other than tamil Nadu. 
Besides, late Shri Sadhan gupta, a totally blind person and a bar-at-law, had 
served both as Additional Advocate-General and Advocate-General respectively of 
the govt. of west Bengal with high level of efficiency. He was also an elected 
member of Lok Sabha from West Bengal. Internationally speaking once upon a 
time, the Chief Justice of the Federal Court of Germany, which is the apex 
court of Germany was also a blind person. South Africa also had a blind person 
as one of the judges of the apex court  there; and, I once had the honour of 
meeting him.

Sir! To my mind, the said judgment of the Hon'ble supreme court of India in 
Surendramohan"s case will frustrate the very purpose of the Rights of Persons 
with Disabilities Act, 2016. The said judgment is liable to be misused against 
persons with disabilities in general and against persons with blindness in 
particular as this will provide a handle to the bureaucracy to deprive such 
persons from being employed in various streams, such as, the civil services, 
ministeriahl/clerical services, teaching services, ETC. for it may be 
prescribed that certain amount of the ability to see or hear, ETC. is necessary 
for such streams as well. This is a matter of grave concern.

In the above view of the matter, I humbly suggest that the Department of 
Empowerment of Persons with Disabilities under your benign Ministry be pleased 
to study the judgment and file a review petition before a larger constitution 
bench of the Hon'ble supreme court taking, inter alia, the following grounds:

that there have been instances where blind persons have efficiently and 
successfully served as judicial officersand judges both in India and abroad.

That the said judgment was pronounced based on the erstwhile PWD Act which now 
stands repealed and replaced by the RPD Act as stated above.

That the RPD Act does not prescribe any degree of disability in relation to 
sensory disabilities as measurable parameters are in-built into their 
definitions.

That the said judgment will frustrate the very purpose of the RPD Act and it 
militates against the principles of equality and non-discrimination.

the said judgment will drastically reduce employment opportunities for persons 
with disabilities in general, and for the persons with blindness in particular; 
and that it is liable to be misused by the prospective employers against such 
persons. Depending on the outcome of the suggested review petition, if need be, 
the Ministr

[AI] Letter from Shri. Prasanna Kumar Pincha to Minister of Social justice and empowerment

2019-02-12 Thread Kotian, H P


All
Copying below a letter addressed to the Minister for Social Justice and 
Empowerment.
Copying at Shri Prasanna Kumar Pincha's request.
Regards
Harish Kotian
Quoting:

The Hon'ble Minister of Social Justice and Empowerment

Govt. of India, New Delhi

Subject:
Some suggestions for urgent  consideration by Govt.

Respected sir!

Warm greetings from New Delhi!

The purpose of my addressing this mail to you is to request you to kindly 
examine the merit of my following suggestions which, to my mind, have 
significant implications on the lives of persons with disabilities:

1. Firstly, I would like to draw your esteemed attention to the recently 
pronounced judgment of the hon'ble supreme court of India in the matter of one 
Surendramohan  Vs. the state of tamil Nadu and others. This is regarding 
appointment of a person with blindness to the post of Judicial Oficer (civil 
judge). Though I have not read the full text of the said judgment, I am aware 
that the said judgment was pronounced on the basis of the erstwhile Persons 
with Disabilities Act, 1995 albeit we now have in place a way more progressive 
piece of legislation, namely, the Rights of Persons with Disabilities Act, 
2016. The Hon'ble supreme court held that the respondents were well within 
their right to fix minimum degree of disability at 50% in respect of persons 
with blindness and also in respect of persons with speech and hearing 
impairment. It further stated that some ability to see, hear or speak 
was necessary for the dispensation of justice. Thus, Shri Surendra Mohan whose 
degree of blindness is 70% was disqualified for appointment as judicial officer 
(civil judge).

Here, it goes without saying that under  the Rights of Persons with 
disabilities Act, 2016, the  degree of disability is irrelevant in relation to 
benchmark disabilities whose definitions  contain measurable parameters. The 
definitions of Blindness, low vision, Deafness and hard of hearing do contain 
measurable parameters. In other words, measurable parameters are in-built into 
the definitions of sensory disabilities in the RPD Act.

Sir! My humble submission is that the aforesaid judgment will have adverse 
implications on the career prospects of persons with disabilities, more 
particularly, career prospects of persons with blindness. If I am not grossly 
mistaken, it is quite possible that some blind people, maybe very few in number 
are already working as judicial officers in states other than tamil Nadu. 
Besides, late Shri Sadhan gupta, a totally blind person and a bar-at-law, had 
served both as Additional Advocate-General and Advocate-General respectively of 
the govt. of west Bengal with high level of efficiency. He was also an elected 
member of Lok Sabha from West Bengal. Internationally speaking once upon a 
time, the Chief Justice of the Federal Court of Germany, which is the apex 
court of Germany was also a blind person. South Africa also had a blind person 
as one of the judges of the apex court  there; and, I once had the honour of 
meeting him.

Sir! To my mind, the said judgment of the Hon'ble supreme court of India in 
Surendramohan"s case will frustrate the very purpose of the Rights of Persons 
with Disabilities Act, 2016. The said judgment is liable to be misused against 
persons with disabilities in general and against persons with blindness in 
particular as this will provide a handle to the bureaucracy to deprive such 
persons from being employed in various streams, such as, the civil services, 
ministeriahl/clerical services, teaching services, ETC. for it may be 
prescribed that certain amount of the ability to see or hear, ETC. is necessary 
for such streams as well. This is a matter of grave concern.

In the above view of the matter, I humbly suggest that the Department of 
Empowerment of Persons with Disabilities under your benign Ministry be pleased 
to study the judgment and file a review petition before a larger constitution 
bench of the Hon'ble supreme court taking, inter alia, the following grounds:

that there have been instances where blind persons have efficiently and 
successfully served as judicial officersand judges both in India and abroad.

That the said judgment was pronounced based on the erstwhile PWD Act which now 
stands repealed and replaced by the RPD Act as stated above.

That the RPD Act does not prescribe any degree of disability in relation to 
sensory disabilities as measurable parameters are in-built into their 
definitions.

That the said judgment will frustrate the very purpose of the RPD Act and it 
militates against the principles of equality and non-discrimination.

the said judgment will drastically reduce employment opportunities for persons 
with disabilities in general, and for the persons with blindness in particular; 
and that it is liable to be misused by the prospective employers against such 
persons. Depending on the outcome of the suggested review petition, if need be, 
the Ministr

[AI] Letter from Shri. Prasanna Kumar Pincha to Minister of Social justice and empowerment

2019-02-12 Thread Kotian, H P
All
Copying below a letter addressed to the Minister for Social Justice and 
Empowerment.
Copying at Shri Prasanna Kumar Pincha's request.
Regards
Harish Kotian
Quoting:

The Hon'ble Minister of Social Justice and Empowerment

Govt. of India, New Delhi

Subject:
Some suggestions for urgent  consideration by Govt.

Respected sir!

Warm greetings from New Delhi!

The purpose of my addressing this mail to you is to request you to kindly 
examine the merit of my following suggestions which, to my mind, have 
significant implications on the lives of persons with disabilities:

1. Firstly, I would like to draw your esteemed attention to the recently 
pronounced judgment of the hon'ble supreme court of India in the matter of one 
Surendramohan  Vs. the state of tamil Nadu and others. This is regarding 
appointment of a person with blindness to the post of Judicial Oficer (civil 
judge). Though I have not read the full text of the said judgment, I am aware 
that the said judgment was pronounced on the basis of the erstwhile Persons 
with Disabilities Act, 1995 albeit we now have in place a way more progressive 
piece of legislation, namely, the Rights of Persons with Disabilities Act, 
2016. The Hon'ble supreme court held that the respondents were well within 
their right to fix minimum degree of disability at 50% in respect of persons 
with blindness and also in respect of persons with speech and hearing 
impairment. It further stated that some ability to see, hear or speak 
was necessary for the dispensation of justice. Thus, Shri Surendra Mohan whose 
degree of blindness is 70% was disqualified for appointment as judicial officer 
(civil judge).

Here, it goes without saying that under  the Rights of Persons with 
disabilities Act, 2016, the  degree of disability is irrelevant in relation to 
benchmark disabilities whose definitions  contain measurable parameters. The 
definitions of Blindness, low vision, Deafness and hard of hearing do contain 
measurable parameters. In other words, measurable parameters are in-built into 
the definitions of sensory disabilities in the RPD Act.

Sir! My humble submission is that the aforesaid judgment will have adverse 
implications on the career prospects of persons with disabilities, more 
particularly, career prospects of persons with blindness. If I am not grossly 
mistaken, it is quite possible that some blind people, maybe very few in number 
are already working as judicial officers in states other than tamil Nadu. 
Besides, late Shri Sadhan gupta, a totally blind person and a bar-at-law, had 
served both as Additional Advocate-General and Advocate-General respectively of 
the govt. of west Bengal with high level of efficiency. He was also an elected 
member of Lok Sabha from West Bengal. Internationally speaking once upon a 
time, the Chief Justice of the Federal Court of Germany, which is the apex 
court of Germany was also a blind person. South Africa also had a blind person 
as one of the judges of the apex court  there; and, I once had the honour of 
meeting him.

Sir! To my mind, the said judgment of the Hon'ble supreme court of India in 
Surendramohan"s case will frustrate the very purpose of the Rights of Persons 
with Disabilities Act, 2016. The said judgment is liable to be misused against 
persons with disabilities in general and against persons with blindness in 
particular as this will provide a handle to the bureaucracy to deprive such 
persons from being employed in various streams, such as, the civil services, 
ministeriahl/clerical services, teaching services, ETC. for it may be 
prescribed that certain amount of the ability to see or hear, ETC. is necessary 
for such streams as well. This is a matter of grave concern.

In the above view of the matter, I humbly suggest that the Department of 
Empowerment of Persons with Disabilities under your benign Ministry be pleased 
to study the judgment and file a review petition before a larger constitution 
bench of the Hon'ble supreme court taking, inter alia, the following grounds:

that there have been instances where blind persons have efficiently and 
successfully served as judicial officersand judges both in India and abroad.

That the said judgment was pronounced based on the erstwhile PWD Act which now 
stands repealed and replaced by the RPD Act as stated above.

That the RPD Act does not prescribe any degree of disability in relation to 
sensory disabilities as measurable parameters are in-built into their 
definitions.

That the said judgment will frustrate the very purpose of the RPD Act and it 
militates against the principles of equality and non-discrimination.

the said judgment will drastically reduce employment opportunities for persons 
with disabilities in general, and for the persons with blindness in particular; 
and that it is liable to be misused by the prospective employers against such 
persons. Depending on the outcome of the suggested review petition, if need be, 
the Ministry 

[AI] Letter from Shri. Prasanna Kumar Pincha to Minister of Social justice and empowerment

2019-02-12 Thread Kotian, H P


All
Copying below a letter addressed to the Minister for Social Justice and 
Empowerment.
Copying at Shri Prasanna Kumar Pincha's request.
Regards
Harish Kotian
Quoting:

The Hon'ble Minister of Social Justice and Empowerment

Govt. of India, New Delhi

Subject:
Some suggestions for urgent  consideration by Govt.

Respected sir!

Warm greetings from New Delhi!

The purpose of my addressing this mail to you is to request you to kindly 
examine the merit of my following suggestions which, to my mind, have 
significant implications on the lives of persons with disabilities:

1. Firstly, I would like to draw your esteemed attention to the recently 
pronounced judgment of the hon'ble supreme court of India in the matter of one 
Surendramohan  Vs. the state of tamil Nadu and others. This is regarding 
appointment of a person with blindness to the post of Judicial Oficer (civil 
judge). Though I have not read the full text of the said judgment, I am aware 
that the said judgment was pronounced on the basis of the erstwhile Persons 
with Disabilities Act, 1995 albeit we now have in place a way more progressive 
piece of legislation, namely, the Rights of Persons with Disabilities Act, 
2016. The Hon'ble supreme court held that the respondents were well within 
their right to fix minimum degree of disability at 50% in respect of persons 
with blindness and also in respect of persons with speech and hearing 
impairment. It further stated that some ability to see, hear or speak 
was necessary for the dispensation of justice. Thus, Shri Surendra Mohan whose 
degree of blindness is 70% was disqualified for appointment as judicial officer 
(civil judge).

Here, it goes without saying that under  the Rights of Persons with 
disabilities Act, 2016, the  degree of disability is irrelevant in relation to 
benchmark disabilities whose definitions  contain measurable parameters. The 
definitions of Blindness, low vision, Deafness and hard of hearing do contain 
measurable parameters. In other words, measurable parameters are in-built into 
the definitions of sensory disabilities in the RPD Act.

Sir! My humble submission is that the aforesaid judgment will have adverse 
implications on the career prospects of persons with disabilities, more 
particularly, career prospects of persons with blindness. If I am not grossly 
mistaken, it is quite possible that some blind people, maybe very few in number 
are already working as judicial officers in states other than tamil Nadu. 
Besides, late Shri Sadhan gupta, a totally blind person and a bar-at-law, had 
served both as Additional Advocate-General and Advocate-General respectively of 
the govt. of west Bengal with high level of efficiency. He was also an elected 
member of Lok Sabha from West Bengal. Internationally speaking once upon a 
time, the Chief Justice of the Federal Court of Germany, which is the apex 
court of Germany was also a blind person. South Africa also had a blind person 
as one of the judges of the apex court  there; and, I once had the honour of 
meeting him.

Sir! To my mind, the said judgment of the Hon'ble supreme court of India in 
Surendramohan"s case will frustrate the very purpose of the Rights of Persons 
with Disabilities Act, 2016. The said judgment is liable to be misused against 
persons with disabilities in general and against persons with blindness in 
particular as this will provide a handle to the bureaucracy to deprive such 
persons from being employed in various streams, such as, the civil services, 
ministeriahl/clerical services, teaching services, ETC. for it may be 
prescribed that certain amount of the ability to see or hear, ETC. is necessary 
for such streams as well. This is a matter of grave concern.

In the above view of the matter, I humbly suggest that the Department of 
Empowerment of Persons with Disabilities under your benign Ministry be pleased 
to study the judgment and file a review petition before a larger constitution 
bench of the Hon'ble supreme court taking, inter alia, the following grounds:


  1.  that there have been instances where blind persons have efficiently and 
successfully served as judicial officersand judges both in India and abroad.


  1.  That the said judgment was pronounced based on the erstwhile PWD Act 
which now stands repealed and replaced by the RPD Act as stated above.


  1.  That the RPD Act does not prescribe any degree of disability in relation 
to sensory disabilities as measurable parameters are in-built into their 
definitions.


  1.  That the said judgment will frustrate the very purpose of the RPD Act and 
it militates against the principles of equality and non-discrimination.


  1.  the said judgment will drastically reduce employment opportunities for 
persons with disabilities in general, and for the persons with blindness in 
particular; and that it is liable to be misused by the prospective employers 
against such persons. Depending on the outcome of the suggested review

Re: [AI] air fare

2019-02-10 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
The circular is at least 30 years old. I don't have it presently, However, it 
is in their system.
It is the same as that of  cancer patients. If you tell them so on the counter, 
they will be able to relate it.
 
Having said it. The real discount works out about 30% and the regular fares 
viz. x, y class are far cheaper than the concessional fare.
It can only be of some use when one is travelling last minute. No one uses it 
really.

Harish.

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Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 10:31 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
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Subject: Re: [AI] air fare

Hi,
If you could able to provide the circular/guidelines, people may benefited.

Email: shanka...@tech-accessibility.in
visit my website
Mobile/whatsapp: 7795927572
Thanks and regards,
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H P
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Subject: Re: [AI] air fare

Hi
You have to carry medical certificate preferably issued by govt. hospital.
Show it on the counter and you should be good to go.
Harish.


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hello sir.
how we can avail concessions

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> Jet Air gives 50% on base fare as AirIndia on domestic ticket.
> However, the regular fare is far cheaper than the concessional ticket 
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>
> Harish.
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Re: [AI] air fare

2019-02-10 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
You have to carry medical certificate preferably issued by govt. hospital.
Show it on the counter and you should be good to go.
Harish.


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Aashutosh Pandey
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 3:19 PM
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disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] air fare

hello sir.
how we can avail concessions

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> Hi
> Jet Air gives 50% on base fare as AirIndia on domestic ticket.
> However, the regular fare is far cheaper than the concessional ticket
> when booked in advance.
>
> Harish.
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[AI] FW: Thackrey with Audio Description on XL Cinema app

2019-02-07 Thread Kotian, H P
All
Sharing this info.
Regards
Harish.


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Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 2:19 PM
To: Kotian, H P 
Subject: Fwd: Thackrey with Audio Description on XL Cinema app

-- Forwarded message --
From: Suhas Karnik 
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 14:17:44 +0530
Subject: Re: Thackrey with Audio Description on XL Cinema app
To: Sangeeta Robinson 

Dear Sangeeta,

It was a pleasure meeting you at the Retail Inclusion Summit in Mumbai.  Thanks 
for sharing the information about the audio description of the film 'Thackrey'. 
 We shall circulate the same amongst our network.

Regards,

SUHAS V. KARNIK
HON. SECRETARY
NAB, INDIA

svk/jd

On 2/6/19, Sangeeta Robinson  wrote:
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> Dear Suhas/ David,
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> It gives me pleasure to inform you that Thackrey is playing with Audio
> Description on its Hindi version.
>
> Visually Impaired need to simply download the app on their smart phone
> and register.
>
> Then they need to download the movie ticket on Thackeray and they can
> go to any PVR and enjoy the movie with one plug of the headphone
> plugged in one ear.
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> PVR Limited
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Re: [AI] Friends, please suggest a good digital voice recorder

2019-01-29 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
EVOE5, E10 and Angel have jack for external mic recording. I suppose even Angel 
pro should.
Harish.


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Rishi Kewalramani
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 3:08 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
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Subject: [AI] Friends, please suggest a good digital voice recorder

Hi friends,
Need your valuable suggestions  for an accessible digital voice recorder please.
So my main purpose is to record my lectures with good voice recording quality 
through an external microphone.
I'm not looking for a daisy  player or a multi e book player etc.
I'm Just looking for a good accessible digital voice recorder to be used with 
an external microphone.
But just to talk about accessible multi digital players, I believe evo e5 and 
e10 dont have an external microphone jack? Am I right?
Does anyone know if angel or angel pro has an external microphone jack?

I've heard of Olympus digital voice recorders, is anyone aware of an accessible 
olympus voice recorder which announces basic things like Onn, Off, recording 
started, recording stopped, and reading the names of the recorded files  etc?

So would really appreciate if you all could please guide me for a good digital 
voice recorder with an external microphone jack facility.
My budget is around 10k.
Many thanks in advance,
Sincere regards,
Rishi



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[AI] Moderator: No seasonal greetings pl

2019-01-25 Thread Kotian, H P
All

Pl desist from posting seasons greetings. It is out of scope for the list.

Harish



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[AI] guidelines for government employees

2019-01-21 Thread Kotian, H P
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The following mail from Kanchan did not get on the list.
Copying it below.
Harish.
Quoting:

Hi,
I have copied hereinbelow guidelines from the Government -Has anyone seen any 
recent guidelines -after 2016-dealing with the new provisions of law?
If so please share.
Thanks
Kanchan

No.3/13/2014-Welfare
GOVERNMENT OF INDIA
Ministry of Finance
Deptt. of Financial Services
3rd Floor, Jeevan Deep Bldg., Pari. Street, New Delhi, dated :  
 18th November, 2014
1.All CMDs of PSBs/PSICs/FIs.
2.The Chairman, NABARD/ IBA
3.CGM, RBI, HO, Mumbai
4.PFDRA
Subject:- Guidelines for providing certain facilities in respect of persons 
with disabilities who are already employed in Government for efficient 
performance of their duties.
I am directed to refer to the subject cited above
DoP&T's O.M. No. 36035/3/2013-Estt(Res.) dt. 31.03.2014 for information and
compliance.
Yours faithfully,
S Phaugat)
Under Secretary to the Govt, of India Tel.No.23748725 Fax No. 23742207, 
23747018 & 23360250
No.36D35/3/2013-Estt.(Res)
Government of India
Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances and Pensions
Department of Personnel and Training
*A-***'*-**
North Block, Nevy Delhi. Dated the3/AMarch, 2014.
OFFICE MEMORANDUM
Subject: Guidelines for providing certain facilities in respect of 
persons with
disabilities who are already employed in Government for efficient
performance of their duties
*
A need has been felt to issue guidelines to provide certain additional 
facilities /amenities to the persons with disabilities (PWD) to enable them to 
effectively discharge their duties. The facilities such as identification of 
jobs, post recruitment and pre¬promotion training, assistive devices, free 
accessibility, preference in transfer/posting, special casual leave, etc. have 
been identified as areas which require special attention. The proposed facility 
indicated in the guidelines should be applicable in respect of such employees 
working in the Ministries/Departments of the Government of India, their 
attached and subordinate offices, Central Public Sector Enterprises, Cantonment 
Boards etc.
2. An inter-ministerial committee was formed to finalise guidelines for 
providing certain facilities in respect of persons with disabilities, who are 
already employed in efficient discharge of their duties. Based on the 
discussions held with the stakeholders and suggestion received from the 
stakeholders, the following guidelines are issued to provide certain 
facilities/amenities to the persons with disabilities:-
A.Identification of jobs
Each Ministry/Department of the Government of India, their attached and 
subordinate offices, Central Public Sector Enterprises, Cantonment Boards etc. 
should identify the types of jobs which could be easily performed by them 
specially for Group B, C and D posts where the number of jobs are more. Such 
persons should preferably be posted to perform such identified jobs and they be 
allowed to continue performing such jobs, as far as possible. If the concerned 
PWD officer could perform all the jobs as people without disability or could 
perform several types of jobs efficiently, no effort should be made to instruct 
them to certain types of jobs only.
B.Post recruitment and Pre-promotion training
Induction training is an essential component of the service requirement of an 
employee. Induction training programme for the persons with disabilities should 
be imparted together with the other employees.
Job specific post-recruitment as well as pre-promotion training programmes are 
required to be organised for the persons with disabilities. Outlining a 
specific module/norm for training programme for the persons with disabilities 
common to all the Ministries/Departments and their attached/subordinate 
offices, Central Public Sector
Enterprises, Cantonment Board, etc. may not be possible as the training 
requirement may be different on the basis of the work pattern. All the 
Ministries / Departments should take definite action to conduct job specific 
inclusive training programmes for the persons with disabilities with other 
employees.
Duration and training contents may be finalized in consultation with the 
National institutes under the Department of Disability Affairs, Ministry of 
Social Justice & Empowerment and, if felt necessary, prominent Associations/ 
Federations/Confederations workings in the sphere of disability can be 
consulted. It should also be ensured that training programmes are conducted at 
the time of change in job, introduction of new technology, after promotion of 
the employee, etc. The venue of the training may be fixed as considered 
suitable for conducting such training, The Ministries/Departments and their 
offices shall utilize existing Budget provisions for undertaking the aspects of 
training programme.
The employee with disability shall be placed with an experienced

Re: [AI] Interesting move

2019-01-20 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
Although, this is thoughtful and good, in some ways it is judiciary getting 
into executive role which should be carried out by the executive body.

Now that it is going to take shape, it should be properly structured and proper 
protocol put in place.

Harish

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Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 1:05 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.' 
Subject: [AI] Interesting move

Times of India

17th January 2019

HC may set up fund for poor children with special needs - Times of India

Bombay high court may consider setting up a special fund after senior advocate 
Amit Desai on Wednesday proposed a kitty for maintenance of children born with 
health issues in poor families. The impromptu suggestion from the advocate, who 
has represented high profile clients including Bollywood actor Salman Khan, was 
that instead of asking litigants to deposit fine amounts with private hospitals 
or charities, the money could be used to create the special fund in government 
hospitals. A division bench of justices Bhushan Dharmadhikari and Revati  Dhere 
said it was a "good idea"
and asked the state to submit a list of government hospitals. Desai, who was in 
court for another matter, was witness to a case related to an application filed 
by a 19-year-old married woman seeking medical termination of her 23-week 
pregnancy. The foetus was found to have a neurological problem and the couple 
said they wanted to abort it as they were poor and would not be able to look 
after the child. The medical report indicated there was a chance the foetus 
could survive the medical termination procedure. The court then asked the 
parents if they would look after the child if it was born, to which they 
finally agreed. Following the hearing, Desai proposed the special fund. "In 
many matters, the court imposes legal costs which are directed to be deposited 
with private hospitals or charities or the legal aid department. The HC could, 
instead, direct a special fund be set up that government hospitals can have 
access too. This fund could be used to maintain children born with health 
complications," he suggested.





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[AI] Moderator: RE: general knowledge

2019-01-20 Thread Kotian, H P
All
Pl desist posting such mails. They are not in the scope of this mailing list.

Although, the info may be useful, we will loose focus if we start putting mails 
on all topics. There are other mailing list which is dedicated for it.
Please cooperate.
Harish Kotian


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Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 9:02 PM
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disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] general knowledge

Is po

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009, 12:43 PM Robin Augastin  dear friends
>
> vThe largest museum in the world is the American Museum of Natural History.
> The lowest mountain range in the world is the Buena Bhaile.
> The country known as the Land of Cakes is Scotland.
> The place known as the Garden of England is Kent.
> The tallest tower in the world is the C. N. Tower, Toronto, Canada.
> The country famous for its fish catch is Japan.
> The old name of Taiwan was Farmosa.
> Montreal is situated on the bank of River Ottawa.
> The city of Bonn is situated in Germany.
> The literal meaning of Renaissance is Revival.
> Julius Caesar was killed by Brutus.
> The title of Desert Fox was given to Field Marshal Erwin Rommel.
> The largest airport in the world is the King Khalid International
> Airport, Saudi Arabia.
> The city in Russia which faced an earthquake in the year 1998 was Armenia.
> The largest bay in the world is Hudson Bay, Canada.
> The largest church in the world is Basilica of St. Peter, Vatican
> City, Rome.
> The largest peninsula in the world is Arabia.
> The largest gulf in the world is Gulf of Mexico.
> The tallest statue in the world is the Motherland, Volgograd Russia.
> The largest railway tunnel in the world is the Oshimizu Tunnel, Japan.
> The world's loneliest island is the Tristan da cunha.
> The word 'Quiz' was coined by Jim Daly Irishman.
> The original meaning of 'Quiz' was Trick.
> The busiest shopping centre of London is Oxford Street.
> The residence of the Queen in London is Buckingham Palace.
> Adolf Hitler was born in Austria.
> The country whose National Anthem has only music but no words is Bahrain.
> The largest cinema in the world is the Fox theatre, Detroit, USA.
> The country where there are no Cinema theatres is Saudi Arabia.
> The world's tallest office building is the Sears Tower, Chicago.
> In the year 1811, Paraguay became independent from Spain.
> The cross word puzzle was invented by Arthur Wynne.
> The city which was the capital of the ancient Persian Empire was
> Persepolis.
> WHO stands for World Health Organization.
> WHO (World Health Organization) is located at Geneva.
> FAO stands for Food and Agriculture Organization.
> FAO is located at Rome and London.
> UNIDO stands for United Nations Industrial Development Organization.
> UNIDO is located at Vienna.
> WMO stands for World Meteorological Organization.
> WMO is located at Geneva.
> International Civil Aviation Organization is located at Montreal.
> The Angel Falls is located in Venezuela.
> The Victoria Falls is located in Rhodesia.
> Ice Cream was discovered by Gerald Tisyum.
> The number regarded as lucky number in Italy is thirteen.
> Napoleon suffered from alurophobia which means Fear of cats.
> The aero planes were used in war for the first time by Italians. (14
> Oct.1911)
> Slavery in America was abolished by Abraham Lincoln.
> The Headquarters of textile manufacturing in England is Manchester.
> The famous Island located at the mouth of the Hudson River is Manhattan.
> The founder of plastic industry was Leo Hendrik Baekeland.
> The country where military service is compulsory for women is Israel.
> The country which has more than 10,000 golf courses is USA.
> The famous painting 'Mona Lisa' is displayed at Louvre museum, Paris.
> The earlier name for tomato was Love apple.
> The first President of USA was George Washington.
> The famous words 'Veni Vidi Vici' were said by Julius Caesar.
> The practice of sterilization of surgical instruments was introduced
> by Joseph Lister.
> The number of countries which participated in the first Olympic Games
> held at Athens was nine.
> Mercury is also known as Quick Silver.
> Disneyland is located in California, USA.
> The country which built the first powerful long range rockets is Germany.
> Sewing Machine was invented by Isaac M. Singer.
> Adding Machine was invented by Aldrin.
> The national emblem of Spain is Eagle.
> Archimedes was born in Sicily.
> The total area of Vatican City is 0.272 square kilometers.
> The largest temple in the world is Angkor Wat in Kampuchea.
> The largest dome in the world is Louisiana Superdome, New Orleans, USA.
> The largest strait in the world is Tartar Strait.
> The Mohenjo-Daro ruins are found in Larkand District of Sind, Pakistan.
> The largest city of Africa is Cairo.
> The founder of KODAK Company was Eastman.
> The Cape of Good Hope is located in South Africa.
> The Heathr

Re: [AI] Fwd: A National Preview Day for Shoppers with Disabilities on 21st January by Big Bazaar

2019-01-18 Thread Kotian, H P
All
Very interesting initiative and we need to take it up with enthusiasm.
This would also provide phillip for other providers to extend this to us 
provided we show it in numbers.
Harish.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Vineet Kumar
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 2:05 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Fwd: A National Preview Day for Shoppers with Disabilities on 
21st January by Big Bazaar


> Dear Access Indians,
>
> Namaste!
> Greetings from Big Bazaar.
> Everyone wants Offers  & Discounts &Shoppers with Disabilities are no 
> different.Big Bazaar has it’s annual Sale on 26 January  & has observed that 
> Disabled shoppers lose out on discount because  of excessive crowd at our 
> stores.To make the experience  at ease for our Disabled Shoppers,We are 
> extending an exclusive preview day for persons with Disabilities in all 357 
> Big Bazaar stores across the country.Shoppers with Disabilities can avail 
> Free Shopping Assistance,priority counter,Home Delivery service & above all 
> the same Offers 2 days before the sale period kicks off exclusively.To make 
> the experience more delightful,We are also extending a discount of Rs 100 off 
> additionally on a shopping of Rs 1000.Shoppers can prebook the facility at 
> https://www.bigbazaar.noclick_com/differentlyabled .We have trained 10,000 
> Shopping Assistants across the country& would welcome all of you to our 
> stores to experience this momentous day.I believe it’s a great day for India 
> & would appreciate if you can circulate the message within your network.I am 
> also attaching a invite in sign Language & a Radio Jingle for the convenience 
> of our Shoppers with Visual& Hearing Disability.
> There are individuals who have never shopped in their lives,shoppers who 
> cannot imagine independent shopping,shoppers whose family makes shopping 
> choices for them  & we want everyone to enjoy this power of accessible 
> shopping.As a person with Disability,I strongly believe that Spreading 
> awareness  is a factor of being more visible & Inclusive efforts like this 
> send a message to the world that Persons with Disabilities exist & are like 
> any of us around.They smile,shop,bargain & venture outside for recreations.
> I hope India will transform &  be a more empathetic country soon I
> have also attached the list of stores along with information on Wheelchair 
> friendliness.I request persons with Locomotive Disability to shop at our Ramp 
> friendly stores.
> Big Bazaar facebook invite:
> https://www.facebook.noclick_com/157109577786/posts/10156583655822787/
> Please find the sign Language invite link:
> https://youtu.noclick_be/Vr_yBXWf9xI
>
> To prebook shopping assistance use:
> https://www.bigbazaar.noclick_com/differentlyabled
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Vineet saraiwala
> Accept the Challenge. Go Paperless

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Re: [AI] air fare

2019-01-17 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
Jet Air gives 50% on base fare as AirIndia on domestic ticket.
However, the regular fare is far cheaper than the concessional ticket when 
booked in advance.

Harish.

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Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 7:01 PM
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Subject: [AI] air fare

does visually impaired person get concession in private airlines and how?plese 
provide information experts does have.



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Re: [AI] Accessible coins!

2019-01-13 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi George
What were the denominations and what were the distinguishing features?

Harish.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
George Abraham
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 12:47 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: [AI] Accessible coins!

As per directions from the Delhi HC the GOI and RBI are in the process of 
developing a new set of coins with particular emphasis of the coins being 
accessible. These new coins are likely to be launched towards the end of 2019. 
I have seen the prototypes and I can say that each coin is distinct and easy to 
identify. This I believe is the first step towards having accessible coins and 
currency notes.


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Re: [AI] Currency Detector

2019-01-11 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi George

You would have seen in the news report regarding BGFI petition, the demand for 
accessible currency is strongly pitched for. The demand is that RBI formulates 
design guidelines taking into consideration the needs of VI persons.

We know it will not be possible to phase out inaccessible currency in one go.

Technology is therefore just an interim solution. By no means a final solution. 
We are very clear and articulate about it.

Harish.

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George Abraham
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 2:56 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] Currency Detector

Another scenario: You give a Rs500 note to to a cashier at a store in a busy 
mall. They return Rs455/- in cash. Rs200+Rs100+2xRs50+2xRs20+Rs10+Rs5

I take out my phone switch on my app and then start examining the currency one 
by one.  The ambiance sound is so loud that I cannot hear what talk back or 
voice over is saying. Person in the counter and the people behind start 
becoming impatient.

I believe as Vasu said, I would use the app to arrange the currency in my purse 
at home at the start of the day but while transacting the app might not 
particularly useful in many day to day situations. Agreed, no substitute for 
actual accessible currency. Further the app is of no use to people who do not 
own a smart phone. That could be a huge number. I am not trying to discredit 
the splendid efforts put in by Shilpi and her team. I am worried because the 
Finance Ministry is working on an app and thinking that it would solve the 
problem.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Amiyo Biswas
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 1:14 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Currency Detector

I can't imagine the scene. I shall take the note from my pocket or wallet to my 
hand, then scan it with my mobile, listen to it and then pay with this note. It 
reminds me of a very famous Bengali story of the sixties by Shibram Chakraborty.

A bus conductor is brought for trial for slapping a lady.

Judge: Why did you slap a lady passenger?

Conductor: When I went to the lady for ticket, she opened a handbag. She 
fumbled inside it for some time and brought out a small pouch from it. She then 
opened the pouch and brought out a purse. She then produced a paper pack from 
it. She unfolded the paper and produced a 10 paise. But by then I had moved 
forward to the front side of the bus, approaching other passengers for 
ticketts. She wrapped the paisa inside the paper, placed it in the purse, 
placed the purse in the pouch, and then put the pouch in the handbag and put 
the zipper in place.  Five minutes later, I asked her for ticket agaij. She 
opened the handbag, brought out the pouch from the handbag, ...

Judge: If you don't cut short, I shall give you a slap.

Conductor: See, sir, I am only telling you what happened and you are losing 
patience. Feel my situation when it happened to me.


With best regards
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 9433464329 / 6290527506

- Original Message -
From: "Prashant Ranjan Verma" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.'" 
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Currency Detector


> The government must be forced to produce and distribute  free of cost
> a standalone  electronic device capable of recognizing the currency by
> just touch  or by inserting any corner of the note into it.
> This kind of device is provided by the USA government to eligible
> citizens.
>
> It will be a small device, about the size of a credit card, a bit
> thicker, will need to be charged occasionally, and will announce the
> currency denomination in loud voice when the note is put on it.
> I understand that it may cost hundreds of rupees but the government
> must pay this kind of fine for the  mess it has created with new and
> old notes in circulation.
> It should be easy for everyone to use.
> I have written about this earlier, also in a letter to RBI, but who
> cares on that side!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Prashant Ranjan Verma
> Accessibility Specialist
>
> Creating the Best Way to Read and Publish - www.daisy.noclick_org
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia  On Behalf
> Of shanka...@tech-accessibility.in
> Sent: 10 January 2019 18:28
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning the disabled.' 
> Subject: Re: [AI] Currency Detector
>
> the solution is not a bad idea.
> But, I have seen some of my senior citizen visually impaired friends,
> who are still depended on the nokia simbian operating devices.
> In my opinion, the solution must be universal and, every 1 should be
> able to use it.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Acces

[AI] Visually impaired not able to use banknotes

2019-01-09 Thread Kotian, H P

Source: 
https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/visually-impaired-not-able-to-use-banknotes/article25944645.ece?utm_campaign=amp_article_share&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=whatsapp.com

‘Visually impaired not able to use banknotes’
 New Delhi,  January 09, 2019 01:17 IST
Updated:  January 09, 2019 01:17 IST
Plea in HC seeks standards for design; RBI’s reply sought The Delhi High Court 
on Tuesday sought responses from the Centre and the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) 
on a plea seeking to lay down standards for design of banknotes and coins and 
make all forms of physical currency and digital means of transactions 
accessible to the visually impaired.
A Bench of Chief Justice Rajendra Menon and Justice V.K. Rao sought response of 
the Centre and the central bank on the plea filed by an organisation working 
for empowerment of visually impaired persons.
The plea also sought a direction to the government to stop circulation and 
withdraw, in a phased manner, the inaccessible physical currency. The members 
of the NGO, Blind Graduates Forum of India, talked about the difficulty being 
faced by the visually impaired in identifying the currency, which was 
introduced post-demonitisation, and difficulty in distinguishing coins.
The NGO had sent a detailed representation in 2017 to the RBI Governor 
highlighting the major challenges being faced by the visually impaired and gave 
suggestions factoring in inputs from several blind and low vision individuals.
New ₹100 note
Despite the assurances given to the petitioner, the RBI introduced the new ₹100 
note, dimensions of which were once again not visually-impaired friendly.
Currently, the visually impaired are facing a situation where neither the 
physical currency nor digital means of financial transactions are accessible, 
the plea said.
The NGO said that it received a mail from the RBI stating that the bank was 
sensitive to the challenges faced by the visually impaired, but believed that 
technological advancement had opened up new avenues for identification of 
currency by the visually impaired and accordingly, they are working on the same.
The petition said the plea was filed on behalf of over 52 lakh visually 
impaired persons in India who are facing immense hardship owing to 
inaccessibility of physical Indian currency along with inaccessible means of 
digital transactions and it has a direct negative impact on the independence 
and livelihood of such people.
The plea sought direction to the authorities to lay down standards as per the 
provisions of the Rights of Persons with Disabilities Act for banking services, 
portals, apps, payment gateways, hardware devices like ATM, point of sale 
devices, self-service passbook printers and cash collection devices to make 
them accessible to the visually impaired within six months.




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Re: [AI] Looking for research participants for a research on emotional need

2019-01-07 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
I suppose, when you have taken up research on this topic, you would be having 
some solution in mind. I am wondering what technology solution you are 
contemplating to work to address immotional issues. I am a bit confused and 
would seek clarity in this regards. Would you pl briefly mention withouting 
compromising on your IPR of course, what can be possible solutions and what 
triggered this study.
Harish.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
john clayton
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 10:40 AM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] Looking for research participants for a research on emotional need

Hi guys,
  I am conducting research for the company that I am working for, the research 
will be for the software they are developing, and need your help.
 They would like to understand the kinds of issues if any or emotional needs 
that we as visually impaired individuals have face, What solutions we employ, 
and whether an alternative would be something you would be interested in.

 The research interview shouldn't take very long, and any information gathered 
will just be used for the research purposes or the software design and won't be 
sold or diseminated and the whole 9 yards.
 I would be truely greatful if you would participate and choose to give me a 
few minutes of your time.
 I don't have a lot of time to conduct this research though, about a week 
maximum, So if and when you have time, please reach out.
 If you are interested, you can get in touch with me in the following ways
skype: jhon.clayton1
email: nishantra...@gmail.com
or on my mobile
Thanks
P.S. this research isn't accessibility related, it seaks to deal with emotional 
needs and or issues. you don't have to have any expertees to take part, anybody 
can participate.


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Re: [AI] Survey to develop an understanding about how people with vision impairment perceive, experience and interpret Heritage sites

2018-12-31 Thread Kotian, H P
All

I too endorse, the survey is very interesting and we can certainly look forward 
for a more inclusive and richer experience while visiting heritage sites.

I had a telephonic  call with her while responding to the survey. Her number is 
present in the signature line.

As they say, Rome was not built in a day, similarly it takes time to happen. 
Data speaks volumes and it can impact good times when gets documented in aPHD 
thesis.
It becomes a solid ground for decision makers to back it. It can also force 
them to act. Let us take the positive step in participating in good numbers and 
actually we are helping us in the long run.

So you can either fill it in online or go for telephonic survey.
Happy new year all of you and let us look for better days ahead.
Harish.

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Akhilesh Malani
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 5:24 PM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] Survey to develop an understanding about how people with vision 
impairment perceive, experience and interpret Heritage sites

Dear Friends,

I have found this survey very interesting and have given my feed back too.
I feel everybody should fill this survey and help Kavita to raise voice for 
making our Heritage places accessible and end user friendly.
I am forwarding this email on behalf of Kavita murugkar.
Please go through the message below and fill it.

Heritage is regarded as a Universal Cultural resource and many researchers have 
studied and catalogued the potential benefits of heritage site visits for all. 
However, social inclusion in heritage sites remains a key challenge specially 
with respect to people with disabilities. For instance, needs of people with 
visual impairments are not taken into consideration in heritage conservation 
and management and they are excluded from experiencing heritage, as it is 
generally assumed that they may not be able to comprehend the built environment 
and architecture in a heritage site.
Such a viewpoint leads to attitudinal barriers which isolate the people with 
vision impairment from the remaining world of sighted people.
To address this problem, an in-depth study is proposed to develop an 
understanding about how people with vision impairments experience and interpret 
heritage sites; understanding the meaning and significance of heritage sites in 
their lives and how their experiences and needs can be better understood for 
developing appropriate visitor and heritage management strategies and related 
policy framework for achieving Social Inclusion in heritage sites.
In order to make this investigation possible, I request your kind co-operation 
to fill out an online survey that can be accessed by clicking the following 
link:

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For form in Marathi, go to -
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Thank you for your kind cooperation.
KAVITA MURUGKAR

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Re: [AI] partial mails receiving from access india

2018-12-26 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
It does not happen like that. It is possible, those mails may be landing in 
your junk folder. If that is the case, please unjunk them. You may have to do 
that a few times.

Otherwise, do revert back directly to me.
Harish.
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Subject: [AI] partial mails receiving from access india

Dear moderator

I am receiving partial mails not all mails from accessindia. Please check 
whether there is any problem.

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[AI] New currency notes pose problems for visually-impaired

2018-12-26 Thread Kotian, H P






Source:
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Published: 24th  December 2018 10:21 PM  |   Last Updated: 25th 
 December 2018 09:09 AM  |  A+A A-
By Shrabona Ghosh
Express News Service
BENGALURU : The new currency circulation in the market is confusing the 
visually-challenged who depend upon the feel of the note.The visually-impaired 
recognise notes through its length and width, a manoeuvre they master through 
practice. The new denomination notes of 50, 100, 200 and 500 are creating 
problems for them as the notes are difficult to differentiate.
"Adapting to the sizes of the new currency notes is a significant challenge for 
the blind. Identifying notes through length, width and tactile markings need 
immense practice. They struggle to identify the new denominations as they get 
confused," M Srinivas, Chief Executive Officer, The National Association For 
The Blind (NAB), told City Express.
S Jagendra, a 51-year-old in NAB, struggled to differentiate among the new 
denominations of 100, 10, 50 and 200 and identified the new `200 note as a `50 
one."Losing even a `100 note is a huge loss for them," Srinivas said.Ninety per 
cent of the visually-impaired population are dependent on cash. "Note X, a 
device earlier used by the visually-impaired for recognising different 
denominations, is now losing relevance amid the introduction of new currency 
notes," he added.
In the era of digitisation, softwares like Voice Over in iPhones, Talk Back in 
Android, Non-Visual Desktop Access (NVDA) are a blessing to the sightless. "To 
avoid hassles of cash transactions, I use the voiceover software on Paytm," 
said Abdul Rehman, a 22- year-old UPSC candidate. Susmita D said she  avoids 
keeping higher denominations with her and uses separate compartments in her 
purse to keep the new notes to avoid being cheated.
"The introduction of the notes have made the visually-impaired highly 
dependent, which is a constraint for them," said Pramila R, a teacher at 
NAB.Responding to a PIL filed last year, the RBI, in its bi-monthly monetary 
policy, said it would come up with feasible note-recognition features for the 
visually-impaired. Some new tactile markings have been introduced in the new 
denominations for their feasibility.
"Introducing markings in the new denomination will not solve problems until the 
visually-impaired are made aware of them. Only a handful of educated sightless 
people know about this. The government should come up with methods to raise 
awareness about the same," said Srinivas.
Many petitions regarding introduction of Braille on currency notes are doing 
the rounds. He added that  appeals have been made and they are just waiting for 
the government's response.In Australia, the bank  notes have a number of 
features that assist visually-impaired people. Canadian bank notes have Braille 
dots.




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Re: [AI] Fw: You have uploaded a file (Filename: Nasreen, Taslima - LAJJA.doc)

2018-12-26 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi

Pl don't share such links here as it can be picked by non accessindia members 
as well.

Harish


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The sendspace is block here at my end. Could you share via some other
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[AI] Moderator: List guidelines

2018-12-23 Thread Kotian, H P



Dear Members of AccessIndia

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[AI] Echolocation: My Secret Survival Skill

2018-12-19 Thread Kotian, H P
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This post failed to get on the list. Hence, copying it below.
Regards
Harish
Quoting:
https://thegrownetwork.com/echolocation-survival-skill/
Echolocation: My Secret Survival Skill
Finally, SHTF has occurred. But this doesn't worry me, because I have the 
skills to cope with the circumstances-including one special skill that is 
rarely talked about and that is widely ignored. The general public doesn't have 
a clue about what it is or how it works.
The sun sets, and I wait for darkness to steal over the land. When it is 
finally pitch-black outside, I know I can get the preps from my garage a few 
yards from my house without the neighbors seeing.
But wait.
Don't I need to reach for the nearest flashlight? The answer is, "absolutely 
not." Do I have to reach for my night vision goggles? Again, the answer is, 
"No. I do not."
An Introduction to Echolocation
Why? I have been trained since childhood to navigate in the dark using 
echolocation. My skills have been finely honed to deal with what others must 
surely feel is a handicap. Due to my partial vision, I was not able to make as 
much use of this skill as most trained, totally blind people. My ex-husband, 
who was totally blind, could use echolocation from a distance of about 10 feet! 
I cannot do that, but my own skills do come into use when it turns dark and I 
can no longer use my partial vision.
What is echolocation? It is the ability to know that objects are in front of 
you without touching them. This is learned through the hearing exercises I will 
give you. The most important thing when learning echolocation is that you must 
practice every single day to be able to use it effectively. Over time-perhaps 
in several months or even less-you, too, can master this skill.
How to Learn Echolocation
You need only a few things to learn echolocation:
1.Patience. This is perhaps the most important factor (besides the 
daily practice sessions) for learning this skill. It takes time for your mind 
and body to understand what is happening.
2.A patient partner to train with. Yes, you must find a partner who 
can help you train for this, and who is willing to perform certain tasks I will 
outline. Remember, if your children have patience, they could participate and 
learn a new skill, too. Short sessions with them may accomplish the long-term 
results you desire. Again, it's extremely important to practice this skill 
every day so that you will not lose the skill once you've acquired it. This, I 
suppose, is important with any useful skill.
3.A very noisy, large set of keys, or another object that makes 
sound when dropped on the floor. The beginning phases of echolocation training 
develop another useful skill: being able to find any dropped object without 
needing to be able to see it.
I don't know how long it took me to go through my training. It started when I 
was 10 years old and was led every day by a state-hired mobility instructor for 
the blind. Her task was to get me mobile on the streets, making safe traffic 
crossings possible. (The cane training that makes this possible is given to the 
legally blind by request through state agencies.)
When the instructor first started teaching me, I didn't have a clue what this 
training was good for.
And I certainly had no idea that my own vision would decrease as I got older 
and developed more eye conditions than most eye doctors care to find. I have 5 
different eye conditions. One is so rare that most doctors don't know what it 
is. Only trained specialists found my problems. But by that point, I had all 
the skills necessary to cope with legal blindness. I never went through rehab, 
like most blind folks do, because the mobility instructor had already trained 
me to be more independent than most blind folks are.
6 Echolocation Training Exercises
Now, let's get down to brass tacks and work.
Exercise #1
First, close your eyes, and be sure to keep them closed throughout this 
exercise. Have your friend stand about 4 feet from you and pitch those keys on 
the floor. Now point, without looking, to where you think the keys fell on the 
floor.
How did you do with this first try? Maybe okay, but not so accurately? Try 
again and again, until you can point to where the keys are.
This, of course, may take time. But the time is worth taking.
What if I took that trip to the garage and dropped my keys while unlocking my 
garage door? Would I be able to bend down and immediately pick up those keys 
without hesitation? Yes. To find the keys, I would start on my hands and knees. 
I would then make a large circle when searching and decrease the size of that 
circle until the keys are found!
Exercise #2
Now try dropping the keys on a smooth surface, like tiles. The keys may slide a 
bit, so listen. And I do mean listen and concentrate. Can you still point to 
where they have gone?
Exercise #3
Your next step takes more time. Have your partner stand right in front of you. 
Close those eyes

Re: [AI] How self defence training helps blind girl in Mumbai

2018-12-19 Thread Kotian, H P
All

I suppose, this girl should be nominated for bravery. Let us all join to make 
it possible.
Harish.



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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 12:43 PM
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Subject: [AI] How self defence training helps blind girl in Mumbai


A 15-year-old visually-challenged girl got a man, who molested her on a local 
train, arrested. But, this was no plain arrest.


 15-year-old visually-challenged girl got a man, who molested her on a Mumbai 
local train, arrested. But, this was no plain arrest. The child, trained in 
self-defence and karate, caught her molester's hand, and twisted it till he was 
forced down to his knees in pain.

The Dadar GRP, which arrested the man, said the girl was on her way home with 
her father on Monday. They took the at 8.15pm fast train to Kalyan from Dadar. 
The girl and her 56-year-old father boarded the compartment reserved for 
differently-abled people. The accused, 24-year-old Vishal Baliram Singh, also 
boarded the compartment. He stood right behind the girl and began touching her, 
said Prasad Pandhare, senior police inspector, Dadar GRP. The girl did not 
panic.

Instead, she turned around and twisted Singh's hand so hard, he screamed.
This got the attention of other passengers .

The girl confronted him and told her father he was touching her. "Until the 
train reached the next station, Matunga, the girl held Singh - much taller than 
she is - in a tight grip," said Pandhare.

The officer said her technique was so perfect, Singh's fingers would have 
broken if she had not eased her grip soon enough. "She did not seem scared at 
all, and boldly told us to arrest Singh," Pandhare said.

When the train reached Matunga station, the girl's father called GRP officers 
patrolling the platform and handed Singh over. Dadar GRP officers arrested 
Singh for molestation, travelling in the handicap compartment illegally and for 
travelling without a ticket.

Singh, a computer maintenance technician for a private firm, and a resident of 
Mulund, has been remanded in police custody for two days.

We are always easy targets for creeps like Singh," the girl said. "Our school 
teaches us self-defence and karate as part of our curriculum, so we can face 
the world despite our disability. I want the man to suffer, to ensure he does 
not repeat the act with any other 'easy target'," she said.

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Re: [AI] In which bank should I open a savings account?

2018-12-13 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
Just to add a point which is not covered so far, if you would be using ATM's, 
SBI has probably the largest number of accessible ATM's.
Harish

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Subject: Re: [AI] In which bank should I open a savings account?

hi rishi,
amit has given all the right answers already! :).
the hdfc and icici banks are good and accessible. the mobile app for icici bank 
on android is  not as much good as it suppose to be but website is perfectly 
alright.
there are high chanses that you have to go threw all the conseltation process 
to open a bank account in banks like sbi and other.
the private banks are easy to deal with in such scenarios.
the only bad thing is that the minimum balance limit that is 1 in both 
icici and hdfc.

On 12/12/18, Rishi Kewalramani  wrote:
> Hi Dear friends,
> I wanted to open a savings bank account.
> Hence wanted to finalize on a bank that is user friendly with respect
> to accessibility, good customer service etc for the V I.
> What would be some good banks to look forward to?
> HDFC or ICICI  or City bank or kotak or yes bank etc?
> I was thinking of HDFC.
> Will it be a hastle free process in HDFC without denying any facility
> like Net banking, Debit card etc for the V I?
> I'm open to any bank as long as its website and mobile app is
> accessible for net banking and their customer service is good.
> Looking forward to all of your valuable inputs, This is a little
> urgent, hence would appreciate prompt replies, many Thanks in advance
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Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind?

2018-12-03 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi

They have provided the video as evidence. My coleague's daughter who is sighted 
mentioned that his daughter participated in the mid brain activation programme 
and she could read things blind folded. Later she stopped practicing and soon 
the ability faded with it. This is the closest evidence I have first hand. Long 
back almost 15 years back, some of us had an opportunity to witness a similar 
feat from a team from Indonesia. This took place at ICEVI conference at 
Ahmedabad. Now when I look it, it seems to be a case of mid brain activation.

There are of course many video online making claims.

I think, it is important to scientifically catalogue it, follow proper protocol 
in the investigation process, identify a optimum number of good candidates and 
follow it up for a few years.

There are many such main stream programmes in cities like Mumbai but the whole 
process is not adequately documented. Although, they provide videos of the 
feats.
Even if one makes a conclusive pronouncement that the whole process is a hoax, 
it should be done after proper investigation. One can seek only when one 
approaches like a seeker. If you have already made a judgement then what can 
one hope to find?


Similarly, Evidence of telepathy cannot be proved physiologically, however 
statistically the evidence towards success rate proves positively.

Having said that, one should approach it with zero expectations, this wil save 
the moment if it does not work out.


Harish.

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age-
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Dear Harish,
But do you know any child who can read blindfolded using this technique? And if 
someone can read blindfolded, a blind person should also be able to read 
because visual signals have no role. I think the responsibility of prooving 
such claims should be on the proponents of such claims. As you said, let them 
produce people benefited by the technique and then the medical science can 
study them. But I don't think we would find any beneficiaries.
There is no good relying on false hopes.

On 12/3/18, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> Dear Doc
>
> Fully agree with you regarding scientifically testing, replicating it etc.
>
> What if, there is a pool of kids who can scientifically demonstrate
> that they can read blind folded etc. Is it not scientific then to test
> the result and thereafter figure out the mechanisms involved.
>
> Why is it that no effort is done in that direction and merely rubbish
> the claim?
>
> Would you as a doctor do the honors then?
>
> I for one would hold my tongue until proven this is all a hoax and
> give the benefit of doubt. Let us not be caught in the nomenclature of
> mid brain activation etc. Let us first establish the fact that the
> kids trained in this technique can read blindfold and there is no cheating 
> here.
>
> I don't think this should be difficult to establish. Preferably please
> videograph?
> Would you pl revert on this please?
>
> Would be eagerly awaiting to hear about the findings.
>
> Harish.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of Sharad Philip
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 10:38 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
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> Subject: Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind?
>
> Dear sir
> I have been following this thread for the past few days . Being a
> medical doctor by training , i feel i should weigh in here and clarify
> some things you are saying here .
>
> Firstly , mainstream medical scientists as you call them are not a
> vile community that is looking out for personal commercial interests .
> Those in research and in clinical practice rarely overlap .anyhow , no
> one whether as a person or a community is specifically interested in
> benefiting from another human being s suffering or disability . As and
> when avenues of treatment / paliation have come up they have been
> brought into clinical practice after rigorous examinations by the
> scientific method . The sole aim for such an exercise is to ensure
> replicability of results . It a little bit more complicated than
> saying a pre and post comparison . There needs to be an understanding
> of why anything works , for whom it works , for those it did not work
> for why did not , what are the best parameters and qualifying
> situations , whether there are any ill effects for those healthy , any
> ill effects for those in need of the intervention , is there a way to
> predict who would benefit and who would not , and many other things

Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind?

2018-12-03 Thread Kotian, H P
Dear Doc

Fully agree with you regarding scientifically testing, replicating it etc.

What if, there is a pool of kids who can scientifically demonstrate that they 
can read blind folded etc. Is it not scientific then to test the result and 
thereafter figure out the mechanisms involved.

Why is it that no effort is done in that direction and merely rubbish the claim?

Would you as a doctor do the honors then?

I for one would hold my tongue until proven this is all a hoax and give the 
benefit of doubt. Let us not be caught in the nomenclature of mid brain 
activation etc. Let us first establish the fact that the kids trained in this 
technique can read blindfold and there is no cheating here.

I don't think this should be difficult to establish. Preferably please 
videograph?
Would you pl revert on this please?

Would be eagerly awaiting to hear about the findings.

Harish.


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Sharad Philip
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 10:38 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind?

Dear sir
I have been following this thread for the past few days . Being a medical 
doctor by training , i feel i should weigh in here and clarify some things you 
are saying here .

Firstly , mainstream medical scientists as you call them are not a vile 
community that is looking out for personal commercial interests . Those in 
research and in clinical practice rarely overlap .anyhow , no one whether as a 
person or a community is specifically interested in benefiting from another 
human being s suffering or disability . As and when avenues of treatment / 
paliation have come up they have been brought into clinical practice after 
rigorous examinations by the scientific method . The sole aim for such an 
exercise is to ensure replicability of results . It a little bit more 
complicated than saying a pre and post comparison . There needs to be an 
understanding of why anything works , for whom it works , for those it did not 
work for why did not , what are the best parameters and qualifying situations , 
whether there are any ill effects for those healthy , any ill effects for those 
in need of the intervention , is there a way to predict who would benefit and 
who would not , and many other things . This is possible when the intervention 
is rooted in some physiological , pharmacological , biochemical basis .

In the context of what is being discussed here , there is no physiological or 
any other scientific basis . The Midbrain is actually a part of the brain that 
controls a lot of vital functions such as respiration , body temperature etc 
amongst others . Some nerve fibers from the processing centres for vision do 
pass through this area . These also control some basic pursuit movements of the 
eye . Apart from this there also other cranial nerves that mediate taste , 
touch , and the movements of face and neck muscles . However in the MIDBRAIN 
activation programs that are being discussed here , the midbrain referred to i 
s something in between the right and the left !!

The only thing between the right and left hemispheres of the Brain is the 
connection system called the corpus callosum . There is no separate right and 
left Brain as is commonly referred to in these writings ! All right handed 
individuals are left dominant - a terminology used to refer to the fact that 
these people have their speech areas in the left hemispheres . Those left 
handed are more than 90% left dominant while a few are right dominant . This 
just implies that certain functions are subserved by certain areas . . Being 
right brained and left brained is something not based in neuroscience . Then 
where would the midbrain be is what should be asked !

If the intervention works to reduce the impairment , i am happy as any of you 
would be but i would still want to know how it does . Unlike common belief , 
ill effects also plague any intervention - whether psychological , or any 
activation whatsoever . It is just that they are not recognised or identified . 
It would only be possible to identify such things in controlled studies . But 
alas , there is little scope for that to happen . An y such intervention when 
conducted by persons with specific training weds to weed out subjectiity 
minimise chance results and identify placebo effects . Such a controlled 
situation is rarely the case .

Anyhow this is all i wanted to say and i hope it helped . With best regards

Sharad



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>
> obviously mainstream medical scientists will never ever verify and certify 
> the potents of alternate medicines/treatments as the medical scientists will 
> loss their business.
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Re: [AI] Visually impaired can see now!

2018-11-29 Thread Kotian, H P
All
This thread is going out of hand. I do agree, the details are not particularly 
well articulated.
Lets hold on until someone has something to report back with their own 
experiences.

Harish.

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Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired can see now!

Einnstein never proposed any theory related to brain.

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Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired can see now!

Technique of the treatment is completely based on Einstein's principle of 
brain. One has to go through 2 and half hours' session everyday for
77 days and after 7th day's session an eye-specialist will examine each 
individual's eye-vision on the spot informing you about each individual's 
vision improvement result.
This training is free of cost for all the persons with visual impairment.
For organizing training in your region you can contact without any hesitation.
For this training session being conducted at NOIDA please send your name, age, 
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>>
>> Santosh
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>>> After the completion: one can read and write, walk independently,
>>> colour recognition will improve.
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Re: [AI] Sharing a succes

2018-11-28 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
I have sent it to you by private mail.

As AccessIndia mails are available by search engine, I don't want to make it 
available to anyone. I would not be aware of the security concerns in doing so.
Harish.


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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] Sharing a succes

Dear Harish,

Will you please share the URL,
Some of us are having account in indian bank.
I am in need of the same.

Thanks
Saravanan.K
+91 9916512402



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> All
>
> I am having an account with Indian Bank. On Oct 16th the bank revamped their 
> portal and introduced visual captcha.
> I could not use it independently and I complained to the Bank and also 
> complained IBA and RBI.
>
> I kept sending reminders but they did not respond to my mails. Finally I gave 
> them a weeks time and thereafter mentioned I would escalate to Banking 
> Umbudsman. Again no response. Last Monday I complained to Banking Ombudsman 
> with a copy to the Indian Bank.
> Much to my surprise with an hour, they got back for the first time and they 
> provided a URL by which I could access the old portal and they also assured 
> they would work on the complaint.
>
> It turned a happy ending. The moral of the story is to be persistent and 
> knock on the right doors.
> Any blind persons of Indian Bank can get the URL from me.
>
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[AI] Sharing a succes

2018-11-27 Thread Kotian, H P
All

I am having an account with Indian Bank. On Oct 16th the bank revamped their 
portal and introduced visual captcha.
I could not use it independently and I complained to the Bank and also 
complained IBA and RBI.

I kept sending reminders but they did not respond to my mails. Finally I gave 
them a weeks time and thereafter mentioned I would escalate to Banking 
Umbudsman. Again no response. Last Monday I complained to Banking Ombudsman 
with a copy to the Indian Bank.
Much to my surprise with an hour, they got back for the first time and they 
provided a URL by which I could access the old portal and they also assured 
they would work on the complaint.

It turned a happy ending. The moral of the story is to be persistent and knock 
on the right doors.
Any blind persons of Indian Bank can get the URL from me.

Harish.





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[AI] Workshops on Fashion, Beauty & Cooking for the visually impaired in association with Big Bazaar

2018-11-26 Thread Kotian, H P


All
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Copying it below.
Regards

Harish
Quoting:

Dear all,
NAB Delhi with its partners is organizing first ever workshops of its kind  on 
4 and 5 December 2018 across 7 cities. These workshops are under the much 
appreciated Looking Ahead and Sabke liye inclusive initiative of Big Bazaar.

The workshops will be conducted in the Big Bazaar Stores itself. The dates, 
timings, venue addresses and contact details are given below. Please forward 
this message to the different email and WhatsApp groups and encourage visually 
impaired adults to attend the workshops. I am sure they will enjoy and get 
something to learn.  Note that Big Bazaar already provides assistance in 
shopping for persons with disabilities. Even if you are not able to attend this 
workshop, do visit the nearest Big Bazaar and request for assistance for your 
shopping needs.

Eye for Fashion - 4 Dec, 2 PM to 4 PM: Workshop on clothing & fashion trends 
for visually impaired girls.
You Look Beautiful - 4 Dec, 4.30 PM to 6.30 PM: Workshop on beauty and 
cosmetics for visually impaired girls.
Cooking Without Looking - 5 Dec, 2 PM to 4 PM: Workshop on accessible cooking 
for visually impaired girls and boys.
Mumbai
Workshops will be conducted by Voice Vision. Contact -: +91 22 4040
Venue  Big Bazaar, HIGH STREET MALL, KAPURBAWDI JUNCTION, GHODBUNDER ROAD, 
THANE (WEST)  ,MAHARASHTRA

Lucknow
Workshops will be conducted by RSVI.  Ph: 9305106040
Venue #1: Big Bazaar,  SINGAPORE MALL, PLOT NO. 192, VIRAJ KHAND, GOMATI NAGAR, 
LUCKNOW
Venue #2: Big Bazaar, RIVERSIDE MALL, VIPIN KHAND; INOX, GOMTI NAGAR, LUCKNOW
Bangalore
Workshops will be conducted by Enable India. Phone+918067323636; +919845313919
Venue #1: Big Bazaar, 5&6,WARD 14,INDUSTRIAL SUBURB, ADJ TO SHELL PETROL BUNK, 
NEAR ISKON TEMPLE, RAJAJINAGAR, BENGALURU
Venue #2: Big Bazaar, PROMENDE BMP KHAT NO .92/9 , BSK 3RD STAGE, KATHARIGUPPA 
, BANASHANKARI  ,BENGALURU
Pune
Workshops will be conducted by Dhananjay Bhole and Savi Foundation. Contact: 
+919850123212
Venue #1: Big Bazaar, AMANORA TOWN CENTER , EAST BLOCK, KHARADI BY PASS, 
HADAPSAR, PUNE
Venue #2: Big Bazaar, REVOLUTION MALL, NEXT TO CITY PRIDE, KOTHRUD, PUNE
Kolkata
Workshops will be conducted by Blind Empowerment Foundation. Ph: 03340051240
Venue #1: Big Bazaar, IB - 177 & 178,SECTOR - I ,SALT LAKE CITY,KOLKATA
Venue #2: Big Bazaar, 403/1, ALCOVE GLORIA, VIP ROAD,DAKHINDARI 
ROAD.SREEBHUMI,NEAR LAKETOWN KOLKATA
Delhi
Workshops will be conducted by NAB Delhi. Contact 8826161166, 9212319672
Venue #1: Big Bazaar, 1ST&2ND FLOOR,SHOP NO.F-127 & S-227,228, AMBIANCE 
MALL,VASANT KUNJ,NELSON MANDELA,NEW DELHI
Venue #2: Big Bazaar, PLOT NO. M-03, SECTOR-18, MALL OF INDIA,GAUTAM BUDHA 
NAGAR, NOIDA, UTTAR PRADESH
HYDERABAD
Workshops will be conducted by Payal Kapoor and Neha Agarwal on behalf of NAB 
Delhi. Contact: 8826261166, 9212319672
Venue #1: Big Bazaar, G S 24, OLD GOLD SPOT BLDG, AMEERPETH, HYDERABAD,TELANGANA
Venue #2: Big Bazaar, MAHESHWARI PARAMESHWARI TOWERS,PLOT NO.4-2-27,KACHIGUDA X 
ROAD, HYDERABAD,TELANGANA




Prashant Ranjan Verma
Accessibility Specialist

Creating the Best Way to Read and Publish - www.daisy.org





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Re: [AI] (no subject)

2018-11-26 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
There are physical buttons, so in that aspect it is accessible. If you are 
expecting to speak out the track name, then it won't do it.
Harish.


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
anil jain
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 11:31 AM
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disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] (no subject)

How is Saregama caravan from accessibility point of view


On 11/26/18, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> Hi
> You can think of Saregama caravan. It is available from 1500-2500.
> Depending on the language. This is the smaller version. The larger
> version is about Rs. 6,000. You can get it online. It is having a very nice 
> retro look.
> Harish.
>
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> Friends,
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> I would like to present gift some musical /song item to someone on his
> marriage. If anyone suggest me for the same in rage of 2500 to 3000.
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> Rajasthan.
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Re: [AI] (no subject)

2018-11-25 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
You can think of Saregama caravan. It is available from 1500-2500. Depending on 
the language. This is the smaller version. The larger version is about Rs. 
6,000. You can get it online. It is having a very nice retro look.
Harish.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Mohit Gupta
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 8:23 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: [AI] (no subject)

Friends,

I would like to present gift some musical /song item to someone on his 
marriage. If anyone suggest me for the same in rage of 2500 to 3000.

--
Thanks and Regards,
Mohit Gupta.
Rajasthan.




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