Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to this....cellular
I've got a One Plus One, but still prefer my Nexus 5. The software makes all the difference. On Wednesday, September 17, 2014, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Bought a Oneplus One 64GB and couldn't be happier. Fantastic 5.5 screen, unlocked Android 4.4 (Cyanogenmod 11), no carrier crapware. faster CPU than a galaxy note 3, and 3GB of RAM. $350 if you can get an invite. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:41 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af af@afmug.com javascript:; wrote: Agree. I waited over a year after 4GLTE launched here to get a 4g phone and when I did, it came off Ebay. Still have that phone...used PDAnet to tether the old phone ; went a different route on this phone cause I knew i'd be exceeding USB speeds pretty easily. :) - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof via Af To: af@afmug.com javascript:; Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular What I think the cellcos (especially Sprint) do badly is not explain to the people with 3G devices that they need to upgrade them to 4G for the higher speed, even if that loses you a grandfathered plan. I believe the transition to 4G/LTE has actually made 3G perform worse. I'm not sure why, maybe they take spectrum away from 3G at the towers and give it to 4G. But people don't understand this, all they see is their speeds are in the toilet, so the last thing they are going to do is buy a new device and sign a new contract with the company that's responsible for their crappy service. At a minimum, they should be informing their customers of this. Like we sometimes have to tell people with a 10 year old computer and a 10 year old router that they need to upgrade. But really, they should have some kind of program to market the 4G upgrade to existing 3G customers with come kind of discount that encourages people to upgrade and stay customers. Instead, I think they lose customers to another cellco (or to a WISP!), because the customer thinks the cellco just has crappy service. -Original Message- From: Chris Wright via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:20 PM To: af@afmug.com javascript:; Subject: Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular You'd wind up pissing off a lot of legacy users and creating more bad press than it's worth. Chris Wright Velociter Wireless -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+chris javascript:;= velociter@afmug.com javascript:;] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:52 PM To: af@afmug.com javascript:;; memb...@wispa.org javascript:; Subject: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular Ok, so, when you have an unlimited card and you're lucky to never have purchased another device, and it's still unlimited, why can't / why DOESN'T the cellular company just end your unlimited option and force you onto something else? Is it a billing issue? Something their systems can't handle? I've always wondered why that is. Surely it's not something legal, unless it's the fact you signed a contract stating this is the plan i want, and they can't change the plan off what you signed up for? (hey! that makes sense...actually) Thoughts? I guess they could say we're no longer offering that plan and you must sign up for a new plan or your phone will be terminated? Too many people on old plans to take that risk?
Re: [AFMUG] Estimated cost per home in a aerial fiber based FTTH project..
What do you spend per drop off the trunk to the house generally? -PK -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+pkranz=unwiredltd@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 6:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Estimated cost per home in a aerial fiber based FTTH project.. I'd say somewhere around $20k-$25k for the main trunk depending on span length, fiber count, and number of down guys required. This is using ADSS and does not include any make ready or engineering if the pole owners require it. There are quite a few factors here, so this is a rough estimate based on my experience. -Jason On Wednesday, September 17, 2014, Peter Kranz via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Anyone got some swag numbers on costs to build a FTTH infrastructure using Aerial fiber and aerial drops? Need a 10k foot estimate on costs. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com javascript:; mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com javascript:;
Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to this....cellular
Yeah, the next Nexus phone is rumored to be based on the Moto X. On Thursday, September 18, 2014, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote: That's because the Nexus 5 is a good device with a pure android build. The Moto X is the same way. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 09/17/2014 10:36 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote: I've got a One Plus One, but still prefer my Nexus 5. The software makes all the difference. On Wednesday, September 17, 2014, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Bought a Oneplus One 64GB and couldn't be happier. Fantastic 5.5 screen, unlocked Android 4.4 (Cyanogenmod 11), no carrier crapware. faster CPU than a galaxy note 3, and 3GB of RAM. $350 if you can get an invite. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:41 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af af@afmug.com javascript:; wrote: Agree. I waited over a year after 4GLTE launched here to get a 4g phone and when I did, it came off Ebay. Still have that phone...used PDAnet to tether the old phone ; went a different route on this phone cause I knew i'd be exceeding USB speeds pretty easily. :) - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof via Af To: af@afmug.com javascript:; Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular What I think the cellcos (especially Sprint) do badly is not explain to the people with 3G devices that they need to upgrade them to 4G for the higher speed, even if that loses you a grandfathered plan. I believe the transition to 4G/LTE has actually made 3G perform worse. I'm not sure why, maybe they take spectrum away from 3G at the towers and give it to 4G. But people don't understand this, all they see is their speeds are in the toilet, so the last thing they are going to do is buy a new device and sign a new contract with the company that's responsible for their crappy service. At a minimum, they should be informing their customers of this. Like we sometimes have to tell people with a 10 year old computer and a 10 year old router that they need to upgrade. But really, they should have some kind of program to market the 4G upgrade to existing 3G customers with come kind of discount that encourages people to upgrade and stay customers. Instead, I think they lose customers to another cellco (or to a WISP!), because the customer thinks the cellco just has crappy service. -Original Message- From: Chris Wright via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:20 PM To: af@afmug.com javascript:; Subject: Re: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular You'd wind up pissing off a lot of legacy users and creating more bad press than it's worth. Chris Wright Velociter Wireless -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+chris javascript:;= velociter@afmug.com javascript:;] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:52 PM To: af@afmug.com javascript:;; memb...@wispa.org javascript:; Subject: [AFMUG] i've never found an answer to thiscellular Ok, so, when you have an unlimited card and you're lucky to never have purchased another device, and it's still unlimited, why can't / why DOESN'T the cellular company just end your unlimited option and force you onto something else? Is it a billing issue? Something their systems can't handle? I've always wondered why that is. Surely it's not something legal, unless it's the fact you signed a contract stating this is the plan i want, and they can't change the plan off what you signed up for? (hey! that makes sense...actually) Thoughts? I guess they could say we're no longer offering that plan and you must sign up for a new plan or your phone will be terminated? Too many people on old plans to take that risk?
[AFMUG] Force 100
Are they 5150 and DFS certified? I'd assume the other's certification would apply, but maybe not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy
(gosh, I hope I'm allowed to say all this, but what the hell, they didn't say 'and don't repeat nothing!' and it's not like other road-show goers can't ask themselves) Oh, I'm sure it'll be user-definable, on the 450, in terms of how to sync. The thing is, with the ePMP, you have exactly three options; something like 75/25, 50/50, and 30/70. Those are all you get for sync options; the downlink percent. They were very clear that 'max range' is NOT a timing parameter. So, making your 450s sync with your ePMP is going to have some tradeoffs, and that's to be expected. As to the 100/430s, it was pretty unambiguous that those would never sync with the ePMP. Or have their MTUs increased. Or all sorts of other stuff. The idea they seem to be moving to, and this is my conclusion rather than a direct statement, is that the 100 series gets flat-out replaced with ePMP, you put 450 where you have needs that the 450 meets (no guard bands, smaller latency, etc etc) and that the 430 is a red-headed stepchild. Don't ask what the 320 is in that analogy. Also, there's a new licensed PTP radio to be announced in a month or so, which, supposedly, a better pricing structure. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+slebrun=muskoka@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 6:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy I was told there will be various options coming soon to make all of this stuff sync. There will be advantages and disadvantages to each way of doing things, but at least it will work. As far as the aging PMP/PTP100, I assume it will do 5ms framing because that's what 900 does today, so it is possible on the platform, obviously with a latency hit, but what can you do. On 9/17/2014 4:23 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: This would be a VERY bad thing for people with PMP450 networks.. Increasing the frame duration to match the ePMP will double the latency of the 450 platform. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+pkranz=unwiredltd@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Shayne Lebrun via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy 450 is being made to sync with ePMP, by increasing frame duration to match. 100/430/320 will likely see no new changes. This is what I got from an ePMP roadshow. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy I am guessing if anything, you will see Canopy (or at least 450) sync with ePMP/320. Seems like it would be easier to make the FPGA based radio use a longer frame than to make the Atheros based radio use a shorter frame. I'm sure they already tried that. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy George, you ought to be all over that new Proxim WORP stuff like white on rice. They claim that it will sync with Canopy. bp On 9/17/2014 10:41 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: Is that 2.4 or 5GHz? A couple weeks ago someone asked why the 2.4 AP sector is slant and the integrated SMs are H/V. Cambium responded with an explanation, something about the SM detecting phases and doing its thing. Definitely looks like a Laird/Pac feed design. That has to be a pain to weather seal. When they get these things to sync with Canopy and get the PTP latency down, then I'll buy some. On 9/17/2014 9:22 AM, Greg Osborn via Af wrote: We received our first shipment of ePMP Force 100's yesterday. Pretty beefy at 10 lbs. Quite a curious angle on the feed horn N-type connections. It would lead you to believe the antenna system is dual slant. All the specs say HV.
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy
I found an RB230 (I think that is the number) on a tower. Can that handle MPLS\VPLS with full BGP routes? ;-) Better pricing? They have to what, cut it in half to be competitive? GigE radios are something like $7k/link now. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Shayne Lebrun via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:09:37 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy (gosh, I hope I'm allowed to say all this, but what the hell, they didn't say 'and don't repeat nothing!' and it's not like other road-show goers can't ask themselves) Oh, I'm sure it'll be user-definable, on the 450, in terms of how to sync. The thing is, with the ePMP, you have exactly three options; something like 75/25, 50/50, and 30/70. Those are all you get for sync options; the downlink percent. They were very clear that 'max range' is NOT a timing parameter. So, making your 450s sync with your ePMP is going to have some tradeoffs, and that's to be expected. As to the 100/430s, it was pretty unambiguous that those would never sync with the ePMP. Or have their MTUs increased. Or all sorts of other stuff. The idea they seem to be moving to, and this is my conclusion rather than a direct statement, is that the 100 series gets flat-out replaced with ePMP, you put 450 where you have needs that the 450 meets (no guard bands, smaller latency, etc etc) and that the 430 is a red-headed stepchild. Don't ask what the 320 is in that analogy. Also, there's a new licensed PTP radio to be announced in a month or so, which, supposedly, a better pricing structure. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+slebrun=muskoka@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 6:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy I was told there will be various options coming soon to make all of this stuff sync. There will be advantages and disadvantages to each way of doing things, but at least it will work. As far as the aging PMP/PTP100, I assume it will do 5ms framing because that's what 900 does today, so it is possible on the platform, obviously with a latency hit, but what can you do. On 9/17/2014 4:23 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: This would be a VERY bad thing for people with PMP450 networks.. Increasing the frame duration to match the ePMP will double the latency of the 450 platform. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+pkranz=unwiredltd@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Shayne Lebrun via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy 450 is being made to sync with ePMP, by increasing frame duration to match. 100/430/320 will likely see no new changes. This is what I got from an ePMP roadshow. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy I am guessing if anything, you will see Canopy (or at least 450) sync with ePMP/320. Seems like it would be easier to make the FPGA based radio use a longer frame than to make the Atheros based radio use a shorter frame. I'm sure they already tried that. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy George, you ought to be all over that new Proxim WORP stuff like white on rice. They claim that it will sync with Canopy. bp On 9/17/2014 10:41 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: Is that 2.4 or 5GHz? A couple weeks ago someone asked why the 2.4 AP sector is slant and the integrated SMs are H/V. Cambium responded with an explanation, something about the SM detecting phases and doing its thing. Definitely looks like a Laird/Pac feed design. That has to be a pain to weather seal. When they get these things to sync with Canopy and get the PTP latency down, then I'll buy some. On 9/17/2014 9:22 AM, Greg Osborn via Af wrote: We received our first shipment of ePMP Force 100's yesterday. Pretty beefy at 10 lbs. Quite a curious angle on the feed horn N-type connections. It would lead you to believe the antenna system is dual slant. All the specs say HV.
Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium
Save the list of questions for AnimalFarm... -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:31 PM To: Motorola III Subject: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium Please let us know if: 1. The femtocell fix is in the pipe (or not) 2. There will be a trap on NAT table full, or at least an OID that shows the number of entries in the NAT table 3. As an alternative to #2, perhaps a way to limit the number of MAC addresses allowed behind an SM 4. A text-based configuration file 5. A do this timing that lets us just set an AP to match some other AP as closely as possible by specifying the appropriate frame dimensions (or maybe just the other APs IP address (now that would be cool) TNX -- bp
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy
Maximum of 512 MB of memory on the RB230. I don't think that's enough to handle full BGP roues these days. bp On 9/18/2014 6:13 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: I found an RB230 (I think that is the number) on a tower. Can that handle MPLS\VPLS with full BGP routes? ;-) Better pricing? They have to what, cut it in half to be competitive? GigE radios are something like $7k/link now. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Shayne Lebrun via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:09:37 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy (gosh, I hope I'm allowed to say all this, but what the hell, they didn't say 'and don't repeat nothing!' and it's not like other road-show goers can't ask themselves) Oh, I'm sure it'll be user-definable, on the 450, in terms of how to sync. The thing is, with the ePMP, you have exactly three options; something like 75/25, 50/50, and 30/70. Those are all you get for sync options; the downlink percent. They were very clear that 'max range' is NOT a timing parameter. So, making your 450s sync with your ePMP is going to have some tradeoffs, and that's to be expected. As to the 100/430s, it was pretty unambiguous that those would never sync with the ePMP. Or have their MTUs increased. Or all sorts of other stuff. The idea they seem to be moving to, and this is my conclusion rather than a direct statement, is that the 100 series gets flat-out replaced with ePMP, you put 450 where you have needs that the 450 meets (no guard bands, smaller latency, etc etc) and that the 430 is a red-headed stepchild. Don't ask what the 320 is in that analogy. Also, there's a new licensed PTP radio to be announced in a month or so, which, supposedly, a better pricing structure. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+slebrun=muskoka@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 6:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy I was told there will be various options coming soon to make all of this stuff sync. There will be advantages and disadvantages to each way of doing things, but at least it will work. As far as the aging PMP/PTP100, I assume it will do 5ms framing because that's what 900 does today, so it is possible on the platform, obviously with a latency hit, but what can you do. On 9/17/2014 4:23 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: This would be a VERY bad thing for people with PMP450 networks.. Increasing the frame duration to match the ePMP will double the latency of the 450 platform. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+pkranz=unwiredltd@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Shayne Lebrun via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy 450 is being made to sync with ePMP, by increasing frame duration to match. 100/430/320 will likely see no new changes. This is what I got from an ePMP roadshow. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy I am guessing if anything, you will see Canopy (or at least 450) sync with ePMP/320. Seems like it would be easier to make the FPGA based radio use a longer frame than to make the Atheros based radio use a shorter frame. I'm sure they already tried that. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy George, you ought to be all over that new Proxim WORP stuff like white on rice. They claim that it will sync with Canopy. bp On 9/17/2014 10:41 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: Is that 2.4 or 5GHz? A couple weeks ago someone asked why the 2.4 AP sector is slant and the integrated SMs are H/V. Cambium responded with an explanation, something about the SM detecting phases and doing its thing. Definitely looks like a Laird/Pac feed design. That has to be a pain to weather seal. When they get these things to sync with Canopy and get the PTP latency down, then I'll buy some. On 9/17/2014 9:22 AM, Greg Osborn via Af wrote: We received our first shipment of ePMP Force 100's yesterday. Pretty beefy at 10 lbs. Quite a curious angle on the feed horn N-type connections. It would lead you to believe the antenna system is dual slant. All the specs say HV.
[AFMUG] registration
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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy
I was just being factious, but you ran with it. Actually, if Version 7 will install on it (whenever that comes out), a full feed will take 36 megs of RAM and 12 million routes will take about 500 megs of RAM. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:45:28 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy Maximum of 512 MB of memory on the RB230. I don't think that's enough to handle full BGP roues these days. bp On 9/18/2014 6:13 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: I found an RB230 (I think that is the number) on a tower. Can that handle MPLS\VPLS with full BGP routes? ;-) Better pricing? They have to what, cut it in half to be competitive? GigE radios are something like $7k/link now. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Shayne Lebrun via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:09:37 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy (gosh, I hope I'm allowed to say all this, but what the hell, they didn't say 'and don't repeat nothing!' and it's not like other road-show goers can't ask themselves) Oh, I'm sure it'll be user-definable, on the 450, in terms of how to sync. The thing is, with the ePMP, you have exactly three options; something like 75/25, 50/50, and 30/70. Those are all you get for sync options; the downlink percent. They were very clear that 'max range' is NOT a timing parameter. So, making your 450s sync with your ePMP is going to have some tradeoffs, and that's to be expected. As to the 100/430s, it was pretty unambiguous that those would never sync with the ePMP. Or have their MTUs increased. Or all sorts of other stuff. The idea they seem to be moving to, and this is my conclusion rather than a direct statement, is that the 100 series gets flat-out replaced with ePMP, you put 450 where you have needs that the 450 meets (no guard bands, smaller latency, etc etc) and that the 430 is a red-headed stepchild. Don't ask what the 320 is in that analogy. Also, there's a new licensed PTP radio to be announced in a month or so, which, supposedly, a better pricing structure. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+slebrun=muskoka@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 6:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy I was told there will be various options coming soon to make all of this stuff sync. There will be advantages and disadvantages to each way of doing things, but at least it will work. As far as the aging PMP/PTP100, I assume it will do 5ms framing because that's what 900 does today, so it is possible on the platform, obviously with a latency hit, but what can you do. On 9/17/2014 4:23 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: This would be a VERY bad thing for people with PMP450 networks.. Increasing the frame duration to match the ePMP will double the latency of the 450 platform. Peter Kranz Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+pkranz=unwiredltd@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Shayne Lebrun via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy 450 is being made to sync with ePMP, by increasing frame duration to match. 100/430/320 will likely see no new changes. This is what I got from an ePMP roadshow. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy I am guessing if anything, you will see Canopy (or at least 450) sync with ePMP/320. Seems like it would be easier to make the FPGA based radio use a longer frame than to make the Atheros based radio use a shorter frame. I'm sure they already tried that. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy George, you ought to be all over that new Proxim WORP stuff like white on rice. They claim that it will sync with Canopy. bp On 9/17/2014 10:41 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: Is that 2.4 or 5GHz? A couple weeks ago someone asked why the 2.4 AP sector is slant and the integrated SMs are H/V. Cambium responded with an explanation, something about the SM detecting phases and doing its thing. Definitely looks like a Laird/Pac feed design. That has to be a pain to weather seal. When they get these things to sync
Re: [AFMUG] registration
Just send an email to: af-subscr...@afmug.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 9:49 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] registration How do I get a new user to register with the forum now? Rory
[AFMUG] i need....people finder! AGE lookup by street?
This used to be out there somewhere. I could put in a street name under reverse lookup or address lookup and i'd get names of everyone on a street - as well as age. Looked about 15 minutes last night, couldn't find it. Really need it againsomething like intellus, or whitepages.com, or something like that anyone? anyone? :)
Re: [AFMUG] registration
Thanks Paul. rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+rory=triadwireless@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] registration Just send an email to: af-subscr...@afmug.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 9:49 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] registration How do I get a new user to register with the forum now? Rory
Re: [AFMUG] i need....people finder! AGE lookup by street?
Try switchboard.com Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2014, at 9:10 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af af@afmug.com wrote: This used to be out there somewhere. I could put in a street name under reverse lookup or address lookup and i'd get names of everyone on a street - as well as age. Looked about 15 minutes last night, couldn't find it. Really need it againsomething like intellus, or whitepages.com, or something like that anyone? anyone? :)
[AFMUG] Mean well
Hi, I read somewhere that a meanwell 48/48 (output trimmed to 56v) can be used to power a PIDU, has anyone tried this? If so what was the part number? We are starting to use the Alpha FMPS 48, on sites with a CMM 48/24 works great I just need to regulate the PIDU! Regards Steve Warden Andrews Wireless 671 Durham road 21 Uxbridge L9P 1R4 905 852 8896 www.andrewswireless.net
Re: [AFMUG] registration
And a kidney, running a list aint cheap, paul can get 30k for a kidney On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Thanks Paul. rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+rory=triadwireless@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] registration Just send an email to: af-subscr...@afmug.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 9:49 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] registration How do I get a new user to register with the forum now? Rory -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] PS4 troubles
@ Patrick: I did assign it to the radio, not the router. That approach may be next. @ Mike: I did turn on UPnP @ Ken: Thank God that did not happen... On 9/17/2014 10:13 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: I once had exactly that experience with one specific Xbox Live game. It didn't help that customer's son added me to a conference with a Microsoft Xbox support rep who kept going on and on about how he sees this all the time and the reason is the ISP sucks. -Original Message- From: Patrick Wheeland via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PS4 troubles Is the public IP being assigned to their radio which is then performing NAT or are you putting the public IP on their router? It sounds like you're assigning it to the radio. We often times have trouble with this when it comes to certain games and have to bridge the radio and assign the public to their router. Once that's done, the problem goes away. -Patrick On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Jerry Head via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So, a customer's son calls me tonight and asks did you change anything on Monday? No He then tells me that he has not been able to play any PS4 games online since Monday; all other internet services are working, Netflix,Hulu, email, web browsing etc. We have had some issues in the past with game consoles not liking out NAT (double, or strict they call it) In these cases we typically rent a public static IP placed on their CPE with their home router in the DMZ. This has always solved the issue beforedid not work tonight apparently. Does anyone have any suggestions on what may be going on here? Thanks!
Re: [AFMUG] PS4 troubles
I would had told the xbox rep to kiss my a Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2014, at 10:13 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I once had exactly that experience with one specific Xbox Live game. It didn't help that customer's son added me to a conference with a Microsoft Xbox support rep who kept going on and on about how he sees this all the time and the reason is the ISP sucks. -Original Message- From: Patrick Wheeland via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PS4 troubles Is the public IP being assigned to their radio which is then performing NAT or are you putting the public IP on their router? It sounds like you're assigning it to the radio. We often times have trouble with this when it comes to certain games and have to bridge the radio and assign the public to their router. Once that's done, the problem goes away. -Patrick On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Jerry Head via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So, a customer's son calls me tonight and asks did you change anything on Monday? No He then tells me that he has not been able to play any PS4 games online since Monday; all other internet services are working, Netflix,Hulu, email, web browsing etc. We have had some issues in the past with game consoles not liking out NAT (double, or strict they call it) In these cases we typically rent a public static IP placed on their CPE with their home router in the DMZ. This has always solved the issue beforedid not work tonight apparently. Does anyone have any suggestions on what may be going on here? Thanks!
Re: [AFMUG] Our latest off grid tower site
Bet the cost of the CO2 scrubber took it off the feasible list. bp On 9/18/2014 6:51 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Why not a coal powered backup generator? -Original Message- From: Sean Heskett via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:09 PM To: af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] Our latest off grid tower site We are still finishing this tower but thought I'd share the progress with y'all. I've included references to companies that are active members of the WISP community and manufactured the products that make this site awesome. It's 100% off grid solar site with propane generator backup. The tower is made from two 60' wooden telephone poles (52' above ground) with a wooden platform at the top (similar to a zip line platform) Packetflux makes the generator control board and site monitor with the solar charger module. wbmfg.com makes the MTOW-3P-48 triple mount for the APs and the 2' optic dish for the backhaul. They also make the GigE-APC-HV cards for the AP surge protection. Cambium networks makes the four 5ghz 450 APs and three 3.65ghz 450 APs. (This tower only has a 180* view to the north) lastmilegear.com mskes the CTM2 which powers the APs and provides the GPS timing for sync. Ironically this off grid site sits on top of a coal mine that provides coal to the power plant in the valley below ;-) long story Enjoy! -Sean
Re: [AFMUG] Mean well
Our 48V Meanwells dont have a voltage regulation. We had a problem with a cable run to a POE switch. There we have a TDK-Lambda DPP240-48-1 now which has a Vout-Adjustment and does the job. I did not try if it reaches 56V. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Af [mailto:af-bounces+ste=genias@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Steve Warden via Af Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. September 2014 16:18 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: [AFMUG] Mean well Hi, I read somewhere that a meanwell 48/48 (output trimmed to 56v) can be used to power a PIDU, has anyone tried this? If so what was the part number? We are starting to use the Alpha FMPS 48, on sites with a CMM 48/24 works great I just need to regulate the PIDU! Regards Steve Warden Andrews Wireless 671 Durham road 21 Uxbridge L9P 1R4 905 852 8896 www.andrewswireless.net
Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium
Hi Bill - 1) coming in 13.2 2) coming in 13.2, NAT table size is configurable from 1024 - 8192 entries, there is a configuration OID, and will be a current table size oid 3) possibly coming in 13.3, can't promise that yet 4) coming in 13.3, planning to have something at WISPAPALOOZA to demo, more than just a config file. I sent some information about this awhile back. 5) we are working on an external frame calc tool but not sure of the timeline of that. Will make sure to add this idea to that list (point to an AP to use as a starting point). I'll send more details on #4 soon and we will be publishing the config file format. Regards, -Aaron -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+aaron.schneider=cambiumnetworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 6:31 PM To: Motorola III Subject: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium Please let us know if: 1. The femtocell fix is in the pipe (or not) 2. There will be a trap on NAT table full, or at least an OID that shows the number of entries in the NAT table 3. As an alternative to #2, perhaps a way to limit the number of MAC addresses allowed behind an SM 4. A text-based configuration file 5. A do this timing that lets us just set an AP to match some other AP as closely as possible by specifying the appropriate frame dimensions (or maybe just the other APs IP address (now that would be cool) TNX -- bp
Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements?
Hopefully it will sweep with a sweep tracking voltage output too... Then make your spectrum analyzer accept the tracking voltage... Voila, network analyzer. -Original Message- From: Daniel White via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements? Just found out PDF's are allowed now. Now see the attachment. Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements? attachment? On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote: SAF announced two products at CTIA. Please see the attachment. Got at least one radio one saved for WISPAPALOOZA too :-D Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements? Does anyone know what new product announcements were made? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.
Re: [AFMUG] Our latest off grid tower site
Just use low CO2 coal... sheesh... -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our latest off grid tower site Bet the cost of the CO2 scrubber took it off the feasible list. bp On 9/18/2014 6:51 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: Why not a coal powered backup generator? -Original Message- From: Sean Heskett via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:09 PM To: af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] Our latest off grid tower site We are still finishing this tower but thought I'd share the progress with y'all. I've included references to companies that are active members of the WISP community and manufactured the products that make this site awesome. It's 100% off grid solar site with propane generator backup. The tower is made from two 60' wooden telephone poles (52' above ground) with a wooden platform at the top (similar to a zip line platform) Packetflux makes the generator control board and site monitor with the solar charger module. wbmfg.com makes the MTOW-3P-48 triple mount for the APs and the 2' optic dish for the backhaul. They also make the GigE-APC-HV cards for the AP surge protection. Cambium networks makes the four 5ghz 450 APs and three 3.65ghz 450 APs. (This tower only has a 180* view to the north) lastmilegear.com mskes the CTM2 which powers the APs and provides the GPS timing for sync. Ironically this off grid site sits on top of a coal mine that provides coal to the power plant in the valley below ;-) long story Enjoy! -Sean
Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE
James, OK, you responded, thus you must want a job with PDMNet / Florida Broadband ! The pay isn't great, but the work hours are long :) And, when most people have two feet of snow, we have two feet in the sand on the beach :) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE There you go telling us what to do again! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE IGNORE - unless you want a job -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:06 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE I was thinking if the connection is using TLS, then connection caching wouldn't work anyway. But it seems I was misreading that Postfix document, it seems to say Postfix would not re-use the connection, but another MTA with a different software architecture maybe could. -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 7:57 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE Yes, TLS, and it has been this way since like.. ever. More years than I can remember anyway. What is/was Beehive running on, Qmail? Looking through my logs, coming from Beehive it was TLS as well. Coming from WISPA is TLS, too. What MTA is WISPA running? The Postfix TLS/connection caching thing could be the problem. Maybe they're trying to hold the session open to deliver more messages? That seems like a Postfix problem to me. But that doesn't make sense because in all (normal) instances (WISPA, Beehive AF, Amazon AF), messages are coming in for each recipient (me and Mike are on the same lists) separately. Separate message ID and SMTP session for each recipient per message. The only thing different with Amazon is they seem to forget to send a QUIT once in a while which Exim on my end says violates RFC, so whichever Amazon outbound MX it happens to be at the moment gets connection rate limited for bad commands. I see tons and tons of connection rate limiting 'because of notquit: command-timeout' in my log all from obvious spam hosts, besides the Amazon SES hosts anyway. So I do not want to ignore bad commands for obvious reasons. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong. But other messages for other Amazon services is doing the same thing. It's not just this list. It's Amazon. Maybe they're dropping the connection early without sending a QUIT because they are configured for impatience? I don't know. On 9/17/2014 5:48 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: George, are the SMTP connections to your mailserver using TLS? The reason I ask has to do with SMTP connection caching. http://www.postfix.org/CONNECTION_CACHE_README.html -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:34 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE In my case, it's not exactly greylisting, but something is happening on Amazon's end that causing them to terminate SMTP sessions too early or something like that. Overloading perhaps? Them not sending QUIT seems to be the issue. RFCs say that's how you end a session. So whatever, delayed. Meh. I'm not changing my end because we already get enough crap. And because this is Exim SpamAssassin on cPanel/WHM, almost everything happens at the initial SMTP connection: RBL checks, host rate limit checks, etc. As I said before, this wasn't happening when AF was on Beehive's servers and it's not happening with the WISPA lists. I'm not trying to be bitchy or nitpicky, just trying to help Paul and Curtis understand what's happening from my POV. On 9/17/2014 5:20 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: Received here at 11:59:41. Jay, I would look for something specific to your situation. Either Amazon just doesn't like you, or if you are doing greylisting, I would look at that as a possible cause. Greylisting defers delivery on purpose, forces the sending MTA to queue the message, and usually relies on the next attempt looking exactly the same including source IP. Amazon may not use the same source IP, it may come from a pool of MTAs. Big systems that do greylisting may incorporate a mechanism to learn what IP ranges belong to the same organization, but you may not have that level of sophistication. Or probably I'm completely out in left field, but I can't think why I would get every single email within a second or so, yet yours are being delayed hours. My mailserver is on a Rube Goldberg connection due to a previous storm (it's at my house on an EoIP tunnel over
Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium
I have three things to say to that: O M G bp On 9/18/2014 8:00 AM, Aaron Schneider via Af wrote: Hi Bill - 1) coming in 13.2 2) coming in 13.2, NAT table size is configurable from 1024 - 8192 entries, there is a configuration OID, and will be a current table size oid 3) possibly coming in 13.3, can't promise that yet 4) coming in 13.3, planning to have something at WISPAPALOOZA to demo, more than just a config file. I sent some information about this awhile back. 5) we are working on an external frame calc tool but not sure of the timeline of that. Will make sure to add this idea to that list (point to an AP to use as a starting point). I'll send more details on #4 soon and we will be publishing the config file format. Regards, -Aaron -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+aaron.schneider=cambiumnetworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 6:31 PM To: Motorola III Subject: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium Please let us know if: 1. The femtocell fix is in the pipe (or not) 2. There will be a trap on NAT table full, or at least an OID that shows the number of entries in the NAT table 3. As an alternative to #2, perhaps a way to limit the number of MAC addresses allowed behind an SM 4. A text-based configuration file 5. A do this timing that lets us just set an AP to match some other AP as closely as possible by specifying the appropriate frame dimensions (or maybe just the other APs IP address (now that would be cool) TNX -- bp
Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements?
Is that a 2 to 8 GHz signal generator, or is it two8 GHz signal generators? And do we need two of them? bp On 9/18/2014 7:47 AM, Daniel White via Af wrote: Just found out PDF's are allowed now. Now see the attachment. Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements? attachment? On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote: SAF announced two products at CTIA. Please see the attachment. Got at least one radio one saved for WISPAPALOOZA too :-D Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements? Does anyone know what new product announcements were made? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.
[AFMUG] 477 for dummys
The previous 477 filing was confusing enough to me. I submittted data that was generated for me from our billing system without actually knowing what exactly it was or how to verify it was accurate. Now with the new system, Im completely lost. Im afraid of the feds and their black helicopters that will sweep in and take my children to gitmo (not all that concerned about the old lady, I can find somebody else to run the vaccum) Can somebody please explain to me like im a two year old what all the steps are and the details of what the information is they want. And maybe even a simpletons description of how to obtain it accurately? As I understand it the gist is to provide the FCC with subscribership information so they can value the census blocks regarding current penetration and subscribership. I assume the compare the combined subscriber-ship with census data to calculate what percentage of citizens are being served in each block? But as I understand it, if no voice service is offered, or subscribed to, the block is considered unserved? If we dont have our filing in by the Oct 1 deadline, they will firebomb a village in africa? -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE
I don't want a job! I'd like to retire.. unfortunately the lottery ticket I bought this weekend didn't pan out so I'm kind of stuck. I think Florida is a nice place to visit but I can't see myself living there. Besides, I don't know how far down your sand goes but there are lots of winters when we have WAY more than 2 feet of snow! The winter before last I got the plow truck stuck when I was plowing our front sidewalk. The snow was over the windows on both sides of the truck and I had a pile about 5 feet high in front that I was trying to push. You just can't have that kind of fun on sand! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE James, OK, you responded, thus you must want a job with PDMNet / Florida Broadband ! The pay isn't great, but the work hours are long :) And, when most people have two feet of snow, we have two feet in the sand on the beach :) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE There you go telling us what to do again! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:51 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE IGNORE - unless you want a job -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:06 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE I was thinking if the connection is using TLS, then connection caching wouldn't work anyway. But it seems I was misreading that Postfix document, it seems to say Postfix would not re-use the connection, but another MTA with a different software architecture maybe could. -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 7:57 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE Yes, TLS, and it has been this way since like.. ever. More years than I can remember anyway. What is/was Beehive running on, Qmail? Looking through my logs, coming from Beehive it was TLS as well. Coming from WISPA is TLS, too. What MTA is WISPA running? The Postfix TLS/connection caching thing could be the problem. Maybe they're trying to hold the session open to deliver more messages? That seems like a Postfix problem to me. But that doesn't make sense because in all (normal) instances (WISPA, Beehive AF, Amazon AF), messages are coming in for each recipient (me and Mike are on the same lists) separately. Separate message ID and SMTP session for each recipient per message. The only thing different with Amazon is they seem to forget to send a QUIT once in a while which Exim on my end says violates RFC, so whichever Amazon outbound MX it happens to be at the moment gets connection rate limited for bad commands. I see tons and tons of connection rate limiting 'because of notquit: command-timeout' in my log all from obvious spam hosts, besides the Amazon SES hosts anyway. So I do not want to ignore bad commands for obvious reasons. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong. But other messages for other Amazon services is doing the same thing. It's not just this list. It's Amazon. Maybe they're dropping the connection early without sending a QUIT because they are configured for impatience? I don't know. On 9/17/2014 5:48 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: George, are the SMTP connections to your mailserver using TLS? The reason I ask has to do with SMTP connection caching. http://www.postfix.org/CONNECTION_CACHE_README.html -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:34 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE In my case, it's not exactly greylisting, but something is happening on Amazon's end that causing them to terminate SMTP sessions too early or something like that. Overloading perhaps? Them not sending QUIT seems to be the issue. RFCs say that's how you end a session. So whatever, delayed. Meh. I'm not changing my end because we already get enough crap. And because this is Exim SpamAssassin on cPanel/WHM, almost everything happens at the initial SMTP connection: RBL checks, host rate limit checks, etc. As I said before, this wasn't happening when AF was on Beehive's servers and it's not happening with the WISPA lists. I'm not trying to be bitchy or nitpicky, just trying to help Paul and Curtis understand what's happening from my POV. On
Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE
People are always telling us what to do. Have a nice day! Have a good one! Enjoy! Y'all come back now! -Original Message- From: James Howard via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE There you go telling us what to do again! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE IGNORE - unless you want a job -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:06 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE I was thinking if the connection is using TLS, then connection caching wouldn't work anyway. But it seems I was misreading that Postfix document, it seems to say Postfix would not re-use the connection, but another MTA with a different software architecture maybe could. -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 7:57 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE Yes, TLS, and it has been this way since like.. ever. More years than I can remember anyway. What is/was Beehive running on, Qmail? Looking through my logs, coming from Beehive it was TLS as well. Coming from WISPA is TLS, too. What MTA is WISPA running? The Postfix TLS/connection caching thing could be the problem. Maybe they're trying to hold the session open to deliver more messages? That seems like a Postfix problem to me. But that doesn't make sense because in all (normal) instances (WISPA, Beehive AF, Amazon AF), messages are coming in for each recipient (me and Mike are on the same lists) separately. Separate message ID and SMTP session for each recipient per message. The only thing different with Amazon is they seem to forget to send a QUIT once in a while which Exim on my end says violates RFC, so whichever Amazon outbound MX it happens to be at the moment gets connection rate limited for bad commands. I see tons and tons of connection rate limiting 'because of notquit: command-timeout' in my log all from obvious spam hosts, besides the Amazon SES hosts anyway. So I do not want to ignore bad commands for obvious reasons. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong. But other messages for other Amazon services is doing the same thing. It's not just this list. It's Amazon. Maybe they're dropping the connection early without sending a QUIT because they are configured for impatience? I don't know. On 9/17/2014 5:48 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: George, are the SMTP connections to your mailserver using TLS? The reason I ask has to do with SMTP connection caching. http://www.postfix.org/CONNECTION_CACHE_README.html -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:34 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE In my case, it's not exactly greylisting, but something is happening on Amazon's end that causing them to terminate SMTP sessions too early or something like that. Overloading perhaps? Them not sending QUIT seems to be the issue. RFCs say that's how you end a session. So whatever, delayed. Meh. I'm not changing my end because we already get enough crap. And because this is Exim SpamAssassin on cPanel/WHM, almost everything happens at the initial SMTP connection: RBL checks, host rate limit checks, etc. As I said before, this wasn't happening when AF was on Beehive's servers and it's not happening with the WISPA lists. I'm not trying to be bitchy or nitpicky, just trying to help Paul and Curtis understand what's happening from my POV. On 9/17/2014 5:20 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: Received here at 11:59:41. Jay, I would look for something specific to your situation. Either Amazon just doesn't like you, or if you are doing greylisting, I would look at that as a possible cause. Greylisting defers delivery on purpose, forces the sending MTA to queue the message, and usually relies on the next attempt looking exactly the same including source IP. Amazon may not use the same source IP, it may come from a pool of MTAs. Big systems that do greylisting may incorporate a mechanism to learn what IP ranges belong to the same organization, but you may not have that level of sophistication. Or probably I'm completely out in left field, but I can't think why I would get every single email within a second or so, yet yours are being delayed hours. My mailserver is on a Rube Goldberg connection due to a previous storm (it's at my house on an EoIP tunnel over ATT U-Verse), so it's not like I have a particularly speedy setup. -Original Message- From: CBB - Jay Fuller via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 4:12 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST
Re: [AFMUG] i need....people finder! AGE lookup by street?
Switchboard allows you to lookup by address, but it must be a complete address. We live on a private road with 9 homes total on it. About half of them come up with legitimate residences. The other half are not found. One had the actual residents, and a couple of other names that came from outer space (no one I've ever heard of). When I mapped the address, it was only off by 2 or 3 miles. bp On 9/18/2014 7:10 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: This used to be out there somewhere. I could put in a street name under reverse lookup or address lookup and i'd get names of everyone on a street - as well as age. Looked about 15 minutes last night, couldn't find it. Really need it againsomething like intellus, or whitepages.com, or something like that anyone? anyone? :)
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP AP mounting
My 2.4 ePMP Cambium sectors do not have the pocket for the GPS puck. The KP antennas were supposed to come with a box for the radio which sticks to the back of the sector, a little ghetto I know. On 9/16/2014 3:30 PM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: When I bought a 2.4 ePMP AP awhile ago, the Cambium sector antennas were out of stock, so I ended up buying a KP Performance sector antenna on somebody's recommendation. Then that project got shelved for 3 monthsand I wish I had known that would happen because I would have just waited for the Cambium sector. Here's my problem with the 3rd party antenna: What do you mount the AP too? It's clearly designed to mount to the Cambium sector and not really to anything else. And then what do you do with the little magnetic GPS antenna? It fits into a pocket on the Cambium sector antenna that I don't have. Is it even weatherproof on its own?
Re: [AFMUG] i need....people finder! AGE lookup by street?
get a job at a collection agency, they have nexus access, you can find out the age of their neighbors dog 5 years ago through those systems On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Switchboard allows you to lookup by address, but it must be a complete address. We live on a private road with 9 homes total on it. About half of them come up with legitimate residences. The other half are not found. One had the actual residents, and a couple of other names that came from outer space (no one I've ever heard of). When I mapped the address, it was only off by 2 or 3 miles. bp On 9/18/2014 7:10 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: This used to be out there somewhere. I could put in a street name under reverse lookup or address lookup and i'd get names of everyone on a street - as well as age. Looked about 15 minutes last night, couldn't find it. Really need it againsomething like intellus, or whitepages.com, or something like that anyone? anyone? :) -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] i need....people finder! AGE lookup by street?
I find it interesting that in this age of big data for sale, you can purchase a mailing list and up to 30% of the houses won't be on the list, and up to 5% will come back undeliverable. I think the information is still heavily based on landline phone records, and that data is fast becoming useless. The next big source is probably property sale records. But if I take a mailing list and sort it by street, then drive that street, it's amazing how many potential customers we are missing. Out in the country, we get the people with no mail receptacle, they have a PO box in town. And with just a cellphone, they stay somewhat invisible. Perhaps on purpose, to avoid debt collectors and process servers and ex spouses. -Original Message- From: That One Guy via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] i needpeople finder! AGE lookup by street? get a job at a collection agency, they have nexus access, you can find out the age of their neighbors dog 5 years ago through those systems On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Switchboard allows you to lookup by address, but it must be a complete address. We live on a private road with 9 homes total on it. About half of them come up with legitimate residences. The other half are not found. One had the actual residents, and a couple of other names that came from outer space (no one I've ever heard of). When I mapped the address, it was only off by 2 or 3 miles. bp On 9/18/2014 7:10 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote: This used to be out there somewhere. I could put in a street name under reverse lookup or address lookup and i'd get names of everyone on a street - as well as age. Looked about 15 minutes last night, couldn't find it. Really need it againsomething like intellus, or whitepages.com, or something like that anyone? anyone? :) -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements?
What is a Comopact device? For more information about SG Compact and Spectrum Comopact devices, please visit SAF booth #4058 at the CTIA show in Las Vegas during September 9-11, or contact your local SAF sales manager! Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/18/2014 07:49 AM, Daniel White via Af wrote: Just found out PDF's are allowed now. Now see the attachment. Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements? attachment? On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote: SAF announced two products at CTIA. Please see the attachment. Got at least one radio one saved for WISPAPALOOZA too :-D Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements? Does anyone know what new product announcements were made? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.
Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements?
like/similar to a pact device. -Original Message- From: Matt Jenkins via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 9:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements? What is a Comopact device? For more information about SG Compact and Spectrum Comopact devices, please visit SAF booth #4058 at the CTIA show in Las Vegas during September 9-11, or contact your local SAF sales manager! Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/18/2014 07:49 AM, Daniel White via Af wrote: Just found out PDF's are allowed now. Now see the attachment. Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements? attachment? On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote: SAF announced two products at CTIA. Please see the attachment. Got at least one radio one saved for WISPAPALOOZA too :-D Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements? Does anyone know what new product announcements were made? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.
Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements?
That is ESL at work. Thankfully Latvian - English is not as broken as Mandarin - English. bp On 9/18/2014 8:55 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af wrote: What is a Comopact device? For more information about SG Compact and Spectrum Comopact devices, please visit SAF booth #4058 at the CTIA show in Las Vegas during September 9-11, or contact your local SAF sales manager! Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/18/2014 07:49 AM, Daniel White via Af wrote: Just found out PDF's are allowed now. Now see the attachment. Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements? attachment? On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote: SAF announced two products at CTIA. Please see the attachment. Got at least one radio one saved for WISPAPALOOZA too :-D Daniel White – Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] CTIA announcements? Does anyone know what new product announcements were made? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.
Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium
Dear Animal Farm, Make plans to attend the Open House at WISPAPALOOZA, Monday Oct 13th at 2PM. Come and see what's new. Register to attend at http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/wispapalooza_openhouse Ray -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+ray.savich=cambiumnetworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium I have three things to say to that: O M G bp On 9/18/2014 8:00 AM, Aaron Schneider via Af wrote: Hi Bill - 1) coming in 13.2 2) coming in 13.2, NAT table size is configurable from 1024 - 8192 entries, there is a configuration OID, and will be a current table size oid 3) possibly coming in 13.3, can't promise that yet 4) coming in 13.3, planning to have something at WISPAPALOOZA to demo, more than just a config file. I sent some information about this awhile back. 5) we are working on an external frame calc tool but not sure of the timeline of that. Will make sure to add this idea to that list (point to an AP to use as a starting point). I'll send more details on #4 soon and we will be publishing the config file format. Regards, -Aaron -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+aaron.schneider=cambiumnetworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 6:31 PM To: Motorola III Subject: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium Please let us know if: 1. The femtocell fix is in the pipe (or not) 2. There will be a trap on NAT table full, or at least an OID that shows the number of entries in the NAT table 3. As an alternative to #2, perhaps a way to limit the number of MAC addresses allowed behind an SM 4. A text-based configuration file 5. A do this timing that lets us just set an AP to match some other AP as closely as possible by specifying the appropriate frame dimensions (or maybe just the other APs IP address (now that would be cool) TNX -- bp
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy
A little birdie mentioned to me that the Proxim gear will use the same timing products as Canopy, and if I heard right, that is via the serial timing cable or sync over power. Which then means that you can plug Proxim WORP stuff into CMM, CTM, or Packetflux timing things. bp On 9/17/2014 11:03 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: George, you ought to be all over that new Proxim WORP stuff like white on rice. They claim that it will sync with Canopy. bp On 9/17/2014 10:41 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: Is that 2.4 or 5GHz? A couple weeks ago someone asked why the 2.4 AP sector is slant and the integrated SMs are H/V. Cambium responded with an explanation, something about the SM detecting phases and doing its thing. Definitely looks like a Laird/Pac feed design. That has to be a pain to weather seal. When they get these things to sync with Canopy and get the PTP latency down, then I'll buy some. On 9/17/2014 9:22 AM, Greg Osborn via Af wrote: We received our first shipment of ePMP Force 100's yesterday. Pretty beefy at 10 lbs. Quite a curious angle on the feed horn N-type connections. It would lead you to believe the antenna system is dual slant. All the specs say HV.
Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium
We will be on the Farm too! -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+ray.savich=cambiumnetworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium Only if WISPAPALOOZA comes to AnimalFarm too! -Original Message- From: Ray Savich via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium Dear Animal Farm, Make plans to attend the Open House at WISPAPALOOZA, Monday Oct 13th at 2PM. Come and see what's new. Register to attend at http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/wispapalooza_openhouse Ray -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+ray.savich=cambiumnetworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium I have three things to say to that: O M G bp On 9/18/2014 8:00 AM, Aaron Schneider via Af wrote: Hi Bill - 1) coming in 13.2 2) coming in 13.2, NAT table size is configurable from 1024 - 8192 entries, there is a configuration OID, and will be a current table size oid 3) possibly coming in 13.3, can't promise that yet 4) coming in 13.3, planning to have something at WISPAPALOOZA to demo, more than just a config file. I sent some information about this awhile back. 5) we are working on an external frame calc tool but not sure of the timeline of that. Will make sure to add this idea to that list (point to an AP to use as a starting point). I'll send more details on #4 soon and we will be publishing the config file format. Regards, -Aaron -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+aaron.schneider=cambiumnetworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 6:31 PM To: Motorola III Subject: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium Please let us know if: 1. The femtocell fix is in the pipe (or not) 2. There will be a trap on NAT table full, or at least an OID that shows the number of entries in the NAT table 3. As an alternative to #2, perhaps a way to limit the number of MAC addresses allowed behind an SM 4. A text-based configuration file 5. A do this timing that lets us just set an AP to match some other AP as closely as possible by specifying the appropriate frame dimensions (or maybe just the other APs IP address (now that would be cool) TNX -- bp
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy
Do you think that's all they mean by sync with Canopy? Surely they know better. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy A little birdie mentioned to me that the Proxim gear will use the same timing products as Canopy, and if I heard right, that is via the serial timing cable or sync over power. Which then means that you can plug Proxim WORP stuff into CMM, CTM, or Packetflux timing things. bp On 9/17/2014 11:03 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: George, you ought to be all over that new Proxim WORP stuff like white on rice. They claim that it will sync with Canopy. bp On 9/17/2014 10:41 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: Is that 2.4 or 5GHz? A couple weeks ago someone asked why the 2.4 AP sector is slant and the integrated SMs are H/V. Cambium responded with an explanation, something about the SM detecting phases and doing its thing. Definitely looks like a Laird/Pac feed design. That has to be a pain to weather seal. When they get these things to sync with Canopy and get the PTP latency down, then I'll buy some. On 9/17/2014 9:22 AM, Greg Osborn via Af wrote: We received our first shipment of ePMP Force 100's yesterday. Pretty beefy at 10 lbs. Quite a curious angle on the feed horn N-type connections. It would lead you to believe the antenna system is dual slant. All the specs say HV.
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy
AKAIK Proxim its 48 vdc 802.3at poe Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr On 9/18/14, 1:37 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I'm a natural skeptic. Especially with Proxim. But, accepting sync pulses from existing timing products is a good start (__IF__ it's true). Getting them to play together in the same sandbox could be a big plus. Again... __IF__ it works. bp On 9/18/2014 10:27 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: Do you think that's all they mean by sync with Canopy? Surely they know better. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy A little birdie mentioned to me that the Proxim gear will use the same timing products as Canopy, and if I heard right, that is via the serial timing cable or sync over power. Which then means that you can plug Proxim WORP stuff into CMM, CTM, or Packetflux timing things. bp On 9/17/2014 11:03 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: George, you ought to be all over that new Proxim WORP stuff like white on rice. They claim that it will sync with Canopy. bp On 9/17/2014 10:41 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: Is that 2.4 or 5GHz? A couple weeks ago someone asked why the 2.4 AP sector is slant and the integrated SMs are H/V. Cambium responded with an explanation, something about the SM detecting phases and doing its thing. Definitely looks like a Laird/Pac feed design. That has to be a pain to weather seal. When they get these things to sync with Canopy and get the PTP latency down, then I'll buy some. On 9/17/2014 9:22 AM, Greg Osborn via Af wrote: We received our first shipment of ePMP Force 100's yesterday. Pretty beefy at 10 lbs. Quite a curious angle on the feed horn N-type connections. It would lead you to believe the antenna system is dual slant. All the specs say HV.
Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium
Give that man a MOO! -Original Message- From: Ray Savich via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium We will be on the Farm too! -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+ray.savich=cambiumnetworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium Only if WISPAPALOOZA comes to AnimalFarm too! -Original Message- From: Ray Savich via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium Dear Animal Farm, Make plans to attend the Open House at WISPAPALOOZA, Monday Oct 13th at 2PM. Come and see what's new. Register to attend at http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/wispapalooza_openhouse Ray -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+ray.savich=cambiumnetworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium I have three things to say to that: O M G bp On 9/18/2014 8:00 AM, Aaron Schneider via Af wrote: Hi Bill - 1) coming in 13.2 2) coming in 13.2, NAT table size is configurable from 1024 - 8192 entries, there is a configuration OID, and will be a current table size oid 3) possibly coming in 13.3, can't promise that yet 4) coming in 13.3, planning to have something at WISPAPALOOZA to demo, more than just a config file. I sent some information about this awhile back. 5) we are working on an external frame calc tool but not sure of the timeline of that. Will make sure to add this idea to that list (point to an AP to use as a starting point). I'll send more details on #4 soon and we will be publishing the config file format. Regards, -Aaron -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+aaron.schneider=cambiumnetworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 6:31 PM To: Motorola III Subject: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium Please let us know if: 1. The femtocell fix is in the pipe (or not) 2. There will be a trap on NAT table full, or at least an OID that shows the number of entries in the NAT table 3. As an alternative to #2, perhaps a way to limit the number of MAC addresses allowed behind an SM 4. A text-based configuration file 5. A do this timing that lets us just set an AP to match some other AP as closely as possible by specifying the appropriate frame dimensions (or maybe just the other APs IP address (now that would be cool) TNX -- bp
Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE
That would be Gino (off the top of my head). Anyone heard from Gino in the last few days? bp On 9/18/2014 10:25 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: At least your email came through, minus the image. When I have tried to send emails with inline images, the whole email has just silently disappeared into the void. I was wondering what was going to happen with the people who have images (like logos) in their signatures. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE Friggin, fraggin no HTML got me again... bp On 9/18/2014 9:44 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: bp On 9/18/2014 8:21 AM, James Howard via Af wrote: I don't want a job! I'd like to retire.. unfortunately the lottery ticket I bought this weekend didn't pan out so I'm kind of stuck. I think Florida is a nice place to visit but I can't see myself living there. Besides, I don't know how far down your sand goes but there are lots of winters when we have WAY more than 2 feet of snow! The winter before last I got the plow truck stuck when I was plowing our front sidewalk. The snow was over the windows on both sides of the truck and I had a pile about 5 feet high in front that I was trying to push. You just can't have that kind of fun on sand! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE James, OK, you responded, thus you must want a job with PDMNet / Florida Broadband ! The pay isn't great, but the work hours are long :) And, when most people have two feet of snow, we have two feet in the sand on the beach :) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE There you go telling us what to do again! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:51 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE IGNORE - unless you want a job -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:06 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE I was thinking if the connection is using TLS, then connection caching wouldn't work anyway. But it seems I was misreading that Postfix document, it seems to say Postfix would not re-use the connection, but another MTA with a different software architecture maybe could. -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 7:57 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE Yes, TLS, and it has been this way since like.. ever. More years than I can remember anyway. What is/was Beehive running on, Qmail? Looking through my logs, coming from Beehive it was TLS as well. Coming from WISPA is TLS, too. What MTA is WISPA running? The Postfix TLS/connection caching thing could be the problem. Maybe they're trying to hold the session open to deliver more messages? That seems like a Postfix problem to me. But that doesn't make sense because in all (normal) instances (WISPA, Beehive AF, Amazon AF), messages are coming in for each recipient (me and Mike are on the same lists) separately. Separate message ID and SMTP session for each recipient per message. The only thing different with Amazon is they seem to forget to send a QUIT once in a while which Exim on my end says violates RFC, so whichever Amazon outbound MX it happens to be at the moment gets connection rate limited for bad commands. I see tons and tons of connection rate limiting 'because of notquit: command-timeout' in my log all from obvious spam hosts, besides the Amazon SES hosts anyway. So I do not want to ignore bad commands for obvious reasons. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong. But other messages for other Amazon services is doing the same thing. It's not just this list. It's Amazon. Maybe they're dropping the connection early without sending a QUIT because they are configured for impatience? I don't know. On 9/17/2014 5:48 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: George, are the SMTP connections to your mailserver using TLS? The reason I ask has to do with SMTP connection caching. http://www.postfix.org/CONNECTION_CACHE_README.html -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:34 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE In my case, it's not exactly greylisting, but something is happening on
Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium
I know a TFTP config download kind of thing was talked about before. But it would be nice if we could manually apply a config template file directly through the SM GUI, so I can have the guys get new or recovered radios set up without having to mess with too many things (AP, TFTP server, etc), just upload file.. apply, reboot, whatever. On 9/18/2014 10:00 AM, Aaron Schneider via Af wrote: Hi Bill - 1) coming in 13.2 2) coming in 13.2, NAT table size is configurable from 1024 - 8192 entries, there is a configuration OID, and will be a current table size oid 3) possibly coming in 13.3, can't promise that yet 4) coming in 13.3, planning to have something at WISPAPALOOZA to demo, more than just a config file. I sent some information about this awhile back. 5) we are working on an external frame calc tool but not sure of the timeline of that. Will make sure to add this idea to that list (point to an AP to use as a starting point). I'll send more details on #4 soon and we will be publishing the config file format. Regards, -Aaron -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+aaron.schneider=cambiumnetworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 6:31 PM To: Motorola III Subject: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium Please let us know if: 1. The femtocell fix is in the pipe (or not) 2. There will be a trap on NAT table full, or at least an OID that shows the number of entries in the NAT table 3. As an alternative to #2, perhaps a way to limit the number of MAC addresses allowed behind an SM 4. A text-based configuration file 5. A do this timing that lets us just set an AP to match some other AP as closely as possible by specifying the appropriate frame dimensions (or maybe just the other APs IP address (now that would be cool) TNX -- bp
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I just tried sending another test email with an inline image. It disappeared into some kind of email Bermuda Triangle. Of course the only way to send such an email is to use HTML format. But if I do that without the inline image, it just gets converted to plain text and sent out to the list. Kind of like watching a color program on an old monochrome TV. Discard chrominance, forward luminance. OK, how many people here other than Chuck have even seen a BW TV? Remember the movie Pleasantville? -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE That would be Gino (off the top of my head). Anyone heard from Gino in the last few days? bp On 9/18/2014 10:25 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: At least your email came through, minus the image. When I have tried to send emails with inline images, the whole email has just silently disappeared into the void. I was wondering what was going to happen with the people who have images (like logos) in their signatures. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE Friggin, fraggin no HTML got me again... bp On 9/18/2014 9:44 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: bp On 9/18/2014 8:21 AM, James Howard via Af wrote: I don't want a job! I'd like to retire.. unfortunately the lottery ticket I bought this weekend didn't pan out so I'm kind of stuck. I think Florida is a nice place to visit but I can't see myself living there. Besides, I don't know how far down your sand goes but there are lots of winters when we have WAY more than 2 feet of snow! The winter before last I got the plow truck stuck when I was plowing our front sidewalk. The snow was over the windows on both sides of the truck and I had a pile about 5 feet high in front that I was trying to push. You just can't have that kind of fun on sand! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE James, OK, you responded, thus you must want a job with PDMNet / Florida Broadband ! The pay isn't great, but the work hours are long :) And, when most people have two feet of snow, we have two feet in the sand on the beach :) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE There you go telling us what to do again! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:51 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE IGNORE - unless you want a job -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:06 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE I was thinking if the connection is using TLS, then connection caching wouldn't work anyway. But it seems I was misreading that Postfix document, it seems to say Postfix would not re-use the connection, but another MTA with a different software architecture maybe could. -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 7:57 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE Yes, TLS, and it has been this way since like.. ever. More years than I can remember anyway. What is/was Beehive running on, Qmail? Looking through my logs, coming from Beehive it was TLS as well. Coming from WISPA is TLS, too. What MTA is WISPA running? The Postfix TLS/connection caching thing could be the problem. Maybe they're trying to hold the session open to deliver more messages? That seems like a Postfix problem to me. But that doesn't make sense because in all (normal) instances (WISPA, Beehive AF, Amazon AF), messages are coming in for each recipient (me and Mike are on the same lists) separately. Separate message ID and SMTP session for each recipient per message. The only thing different with Amazon is they seem to forget to send a QUIT once in a while which Exim on my end says violates RFC, so whichever Amazon outbound MX it happens to be at the moment gets connection rate limited for bad commands. I see tons and tons of connection rate limiting 'because of notquit: command-timeout' in my log all from obvious spam hosts, besides the Amazon SES hosts anyway. So I do not want to ignore bad commands for obvious reasons. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong. But other messages for other Amazon services is doing the same thing. It's not just this list. It's Amazon.
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I also tried inserting an image inline. My message never came through either. I'm guessing it's not related to the email client but I'm using Outlook 2010. Yes, I've watched BW tv (and Pleasantville also). I don't remember ever not having a color tv when I was growing up but we did have a BW also. I think we hooked our first pong (or whatever) video game to it. From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE I just tried sending another test email with an inline image. It disappeared into some kind of email Bermuda Triangle. Of course the only way to send such an email is to use HTML format. But if I do that without the inline image, it just gets converted to plain text and sent out to the list. Kind of like watching a color program on an old monochrome TV. Discard chrominance, forward luminance. OK, how many people here other than Chuck have even seen a BW TV? Remember the movie Pleasantville? -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE That would be Gino (off the top of my head). Anyone heard from Gino in the last few days? bp On 9/18/2014 10:25 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: At least your email came through, minus the image. When I have tried to send emails with inline images, the whole email has just silently disappeared into the void. I was wondering what was going to happen with the people who have images (like logos) in their signatures. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:06 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE Friggin, fraggin no HTML got me again... bp On 9/18/2014 9:44 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: bp On 9/18/2014 8:21 AM, James Howard via Af wrote: I don't want a job! I'd like to retire.. unfortunately the lottery ticket I bought this weekend didn't pan out so I'm kind of stuck. I think Florida is a nice place to visit but I can't see myself living there. Besides, I don't know how far down your sand goes but there are lots of winters when we have WAY more than 2 feet of snow! The winter before last I got the plow truck stuck when I was plowing our front sidewalk. The snow was over the windows on both sides of the truck and I had a pile about 5 feet high in front that I was trying to push. You just can't have that kind of fun on sand! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:10 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE James, OK, you responded, thus you must want a job with PDMNet / Florida Broadband ! The pay isn't great, but the work hours are long :) And, when most people have two feet of snow, we have two feet in the sand on the beach :) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE There you go telling us what to do again! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:51 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE IGNORE - unless you want a job -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:06 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.com%3e%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE I was thinking if the connection is using TLS, then connection caching wouldn't work anyway. But it seems I was misreading that Postfix document, it seems to say Postfix would not re-use the connection, but another MTA with a different software architecture maybe could. -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 7:57 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.com%3e%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE Yes, TLS, and it has been this way since like.. ever. More years than I can remember anyway. What is/was Beehive running on, Qmail? Looking through my logs, coming from Beehive it was TLS as well. Coming from WISPA is TLS, too. What MTA is WISPA running? The Postfix TLS/connection caching thing could be the problem. Maybe they're trying to hold the session open to deliver more
Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE
The first time I saw color TV was on Halloween night sometime back in the 50s. I remember being mesmerized as I walked up to a neighbor's house, and they were watching Bonanza in color. You could see the TV through their front window. bp On 9/18/2014 11:07 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: I just tried sending another test email with an inline image. It disappeared into some kind of email Bermuda Triangle. Of course the only way to send such an email is to use HTML format. But if I do that without the inline image, it just gets converted to plain text and sent out to the list. Kind of like watching a color program on an old monochrome TV. Discard chrominance, forward luminance. OK, how many people here other than Chuck have even seen a BW TV? Remember the movie Pleasantville? -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE That would be Gino (off the top of my head). Anyone heard from Gino in the last few days? bp On 9/18/2014 10:25 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: At least your email came through, minus the image. When I have tried to send emails with inline images, the whole email has just silently disappeared into the void. I was wondering what was going to happen with the people who have images (like logos) in their signatures. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE Friggin, fraggin no HTML got me again... bp On 9/18/2014 9:44 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: bp On 9/18/2014 8:21 AM, James Howard via Af wrote: I don't want a job! I'd like to retire.. unfortunately the lottery ticket I bought this weekend didn't pan out so I'm kind of stuck. I think Florida is a nice place to visit but I can't see myself living there. Besides, I don't know how far down your sand goes but there are lots of winters when we have WAY more than 2 feet of snow! The winter before last I got the plow truck stuck when I was plowing our front sidewalk. The snow was over the windows on both sides of the truck and I had a pile about 5 feet high in front that I was trying to push. You just can't have that kind of fun on sand! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE James, OK, you responded, thus you must want a job with PDMNet / Florida Broadband ! The pay isn't great, but the work hours are long :) And, when most people have two feet of snow, we have two feet in the sand on the beach :) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE There you go telling us what to do again! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:51 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE IGNORE - unless you want a job -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:06 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE I was thinking if the connection is using TLS, then connection caching wouldn't work anyway. But it seems I was misreading that Postfix document, it seems to say Postfix would not re-use the connection, but another MTA with a different software architecture maybe could. -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 7:57 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE Yes, TLS, and it has been this way since like.. ever. More years than I can remember anyway. What is/was Beehive running on, Qmail? Looking through my logs, coming from Beehive it was TLS as well. Coming from WISPA is TLS, too. What MTA is WISPA running? The Postfix TLS/connection caching thing could be the problem. Maybe they're trying to hold the session open to deliver more messages? That seems like a Postfix problem to me. But that doesn't make sense because in all (normal) instances (WISPA, Beehive AF, Amazon AF), messages are coming in for each recipient (me and Mike are on the same lists) separately. Separate message ID and SMTP session for each recipient per message. The only thing different with Amazon is they seem to forget to send a QUIT once in a while which Exim on my end says violates RFC, so whichever Amazon outbound MX it happens to be at the moment gets connection rate limited for bad commands. I see tons and tons of connection rate limiting 'because of notquit:
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Since Amazon SES is just doing the SMTP delivery part, I assume Paul has the actual list server running somewhere in the Amazon cloud and some of the behavior we are seeing may be due to how the list server is configured, not how SES works. Hard to believe that SES would disallow smileys and images in signature lines. -Original Message- From: James Howard via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE I also tried inserting an image inline. My message never came through either. I'm guessing it's not related to the email client but I'm using Outlook 2010. Yes, I've watched BW tv (and Pleasantville also). I don't remember ever not having a color tv when I was growing up but we did have a BW also. I think we hooked our first pong (or whatever) video game to it. From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE I just tried sending another test email with an inline image. It disappeared into some kind of email Bermuda Triangle. Of course the only way to send such an email is to use HTML format. But if I do that without the inline image, it just gets converted to plain text and sent out to the list. Kind of like watching a color program on an old monochrome TV. Discard chrominance, forward luminance. OK, how many people here other than Chuck have even seen a BW TV? Remember the movie Pleasantville? -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE That would be Gino (off the top of my head). Anyone heard from Gino in the last few days? bp On 9/18/2014 10:25 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: At least your email came through, minus the image. When I have tried to send emails with inline images, the whole email has just silently disappeared into the void. I was wondering what was going to happen with the people who have images (like logos) in their signatures. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:06 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE Friggin, fraggin no HTML got me again... bp On 9/18/2014 9:44 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: bp On 9/18/2014 8:21 AM, James Howard via Af wrote: I don't want a job! I'd like to retire.. unfortunately the lottery ticket I bought this weekend didn't pan out so I'm kind of stuck. I think Florida is a nice place to visit but I can't see myself living there. Besides, I don't know how far down your sand goes but there are lots of winters when we have WAY more than 2 feet of snow! The winter before last I got the plow truck stuck when I was plowing our front sidewalk. The snow was over the windows on both sides of the truck and I had a pile about 5 feet high in front that I was trying to push. You just can't have that kind of fun on sand! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:10 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE James, OK, you responded, thus you must want a job with PDMNet / Florida Broadband ! The pay isn't great, but the work hours are long :) And, when most people have two feet of snow, we have two feet in the sand on the beach :) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE There you go telling us what to do again! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:51 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE IGNORE - unless you want a job -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:06 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.com%3e%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE I was thinking if the connection is using TLS, then connection caching wouldn't work anyway. But it seems I was misreading that Postfix document, it seems to say Postfix would not re-use the connection, but another MTA with a different software architecture maybe could. -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 7:57 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.com%3e%3e
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We are looking at that right now :) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE I also tried inserting an image inline. My message never came through either. I'm guessing it's not related to the email client but I'm using Outlook 2010. Yes, I've watched BW tv (and Pleasantville also). I don't remember ever not having a color tv when I was growing up but we did have a BW also. I think we hooked our first pong (or whatever) video game to it. From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE I just tried sending another test email with an inline image. It disappeared into some kind of email Bermuda Triangle. Of course the only way to send such an email is to use HTML format. But if I do that without the inline image, it just gets converted to plain text and sent out to the list. Kind of like watching a color program on an old monochrome TV. Discard chrominance, forward luminance. OK, how many people here other than Chuck have even seen a BW TV? Remember the movie Pleasantville? -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE That would be Gino (off the top of my head). Anyone heard from Gino in the last few days? bp On 9/18/2014 10:25 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: At least your email came through, minus the image. When I have tried to send emails with inline images, the whole email has just silently disappeared into the void. I was wondering what was going to happen with the people who have images (like logos) in their signatures. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:06 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE Friggin, fraggin no HTML got me again... bp On 9/18/2014 9:44 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: bp On 9/18/2014 8:21 AM, James Howard via Af wrote: I don't want a job! I'd like to retire.. unfortunately the lottery ticket I bought this weekend didn't pan out so I'm kind of stuck. I think Florida is a nice place to visit but I can't see myself living there. Besides, I don't know how far down your sand goes but there are lots of winters when we have WAY more than 2 feet of snow! The winter before last I got the plow truck stuck when I was plowing our front sidewalk. The snow was over the windows on both sides of the truck and I had a pile about 5 feet high in front that I was trying to push. You just can't have that kind of fun on sand! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:10 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE James, OK, you responded, thus you must want a job with PDMNet / Florida Broadband ! The pay isn't great, but the work hours are long :) And, when most people have two feet of snow, we have two feet in the sand on the beach :) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afm ug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE There you go telling us what to do again! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:51 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afm ug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE IGNORE - unless you want a job -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:06 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afm ug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@af mug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.com%3e%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE I was thinking if the connection is using TLS, then connection caching wouldn't work anyway. But it seems I was misreading that Postfix document, it seems to say Postfix would not re-use the connection, but another MTA with a different software architecture maybe could. -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 7:57 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afm ug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@af mug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.com%3e%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE Yes, TLS, and it has been this way since like.. ever. More years than I can remember anyway.
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BW tv? From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE We are looking at that right now :) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:19 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE I also tried inserting an image inline. My message never came through either. I'm guessing it's not related to the email client but I'm using Outlook 2010. Yes, I've watched BW tv (and Pleasantville also). I don't remember ever not having a color tv when I was growing up but we did have a BW also. I think we hooked our first pong (or whatever) video game to it. From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:08 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE I just tried sending another test email with an inline image. It disappeared into some kind of email Bermuda Triangle. Of course the only way to send such an email is to use HTML format. But if I do that without the inline image, it just gets converted to plain text and sent out to the list. Kind of like watching a color program on an old monochrome TV. Discard chrominance, forward luminance. OK, how many people here other than Chuck have even seen a BW TV? Remember the movie Pleasantville? -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE That would be Gino (off the top of my head). Anyone heard from Gino in the last few days? bp On 9/18/2014 10:25 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: At least your email came through, minus the image. When I have tried to send emails with inline images, the whole email has just silently disappeared into the void. I was wondering what was going to happen with the people who have images (like logos) in their signatures. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:06 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE Friggin, fraggin no HTML got me again... bp On 9/18/2014 9:44 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: bp On 9/18/2014 8:21 AM, James Howard via Af wrote: I don't want a job! I'd like to retire.. unfortunately the lottery ticket I bought this weekend didn't pan out so I'm kind of stuck. I think Florida is a nice place to visit but I can't see myself living there. Besides, I don't know how far down your sand goes but there are lots of winters when we have WAY more than 2 feet of snow! The winter before last I got the plow truck stuck when I was plowing our front sidewalk. The snow was over the windows on both sides of the truck and I had a pile about 5 feet high in front that I was trying to push. You just can't have that kind of fun on sand! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:10 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE James, OK, you responded, thus you must want a job with PDMNet / Florida Broadband ! The pay isn't great, but the work hours are long :) And, when most people have two feet of snow, we have two feet in the sand on the beach :) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afm ug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE There you go telling us what to do again! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:51 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afm ug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE IGNORE - unless you want a job -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:06 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afm ug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.com%3e%3emailto:af@af mug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.com%3e%3emailto:af@afmug.com%3e%3e%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE I was thinking if the connection is using TLS, then connection caching wouldn't work anyway. But it seems
Re: [AFMUG] TESTING: PLEASE IGNORE - Yeah Right !
Just a learning curve on Mailman filters… we wanted to still filter out obvious bad stuff if possible, yet let normal good stuff through. I know we are NOT the content police but if we could possibly reduce Spammers doing bad things, we wanted to. From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TESTING: PLEASE IGNORE - Yeah Right ! Well, aren’t you special. And big! From: Paul McCall via Afmailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:46 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] TESTING: PLEASE IGNORE - Yeah Right ! Inserting a graphic… [file:/Sbserver/MainData/pdmnet/Business%20Development/Marketing/Nader/Logos/PDMNet/logo.jpg] Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
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Yeah. Inline = HTML. Attachments can be done with vanilla mail. bp On 9/18/2014 11:30 AM, James Howard via Af wrote: Looks like attachments work. It's the inline images that are a problem. Paul's looking at it (and BW tv). From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ray via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE On Thursday, September 18, 2014, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3e wrote: I just tried sending another test email with an inline image. It disappeared into some kind of email Bermuda Triangle. Of course the only way to send such an email is to use HTML format. But if I do that without the inline image, it just gets converted to plain text and sent out to the list. Kind of like watching a color program on an old monochrome TV. Discard chrominance, forward luminance. OK, how many people here other than Chuck have even seen a BW TV? Remember the movie Pleasantville? -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:52 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE That would be Gino (off the top of my head). Anyone heard from Gino in the last few days? bp On 9/18/2014 10:25 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: At least your email came through, minus the image. When I have tried to send emails with inline images, the whole email has just silently disappeared into the void. I was wondering what was going to happen with the people who have images (like logos) in their signatures. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:06 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE Friggin, fraggin no HTML got me again... bp On 9/18/2014 9:44 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: bp On 9/18/2014 8:21 AM, James Howard via Af wrote: I don't want a job! I'd like to retire.. unfortunately the lottery ticket I bought this weekend didn't pan out so I'm kind of stuck. I think Florida is a nice place to visit but I can't see myself living there. Besides, I don't know how far down your sand goes but there are lots of winters when we have WAY more than 2 feet of snow! The winter before last I got the plow truck stuck when I was plowing our front sidewalk. The snow was over the windows on both sides of the truck and I had a pile about 5 feet high in front that I was trying to push. You just can't have that kind of fun on sand! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:10 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE James, OK, you responded, thus you must want a job with PDMNet / Florida Broadband ! The pay isn't great, but the work hours are long :) And, when most people have two feet of snow, we have two feet in the sand on the beach :) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE There you go telling us what to do again! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:51 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE IGNORE - unless you want a job -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:06 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto: af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.com%3e%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE I was thinking if the connection is using TLS, then connection caching wouldn't work anyway. But it seems I was misreading that Postfix document, it seems to say Postfix would not re-use the connection, but another MTA with a different software architecture maybe could. -Original Message- From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 7:57 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com%3emailto: af@afmug.com%3emailto:af@afmug.com%3e%3e Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST - IGNORE Yes, TLS, and it has been this way since like.. ever. More years than I can remember anyway. What is/was Beehive running on, Qmail? Looking through my logs, coming from Beehive it was TLS as well. Coming from WISPA is TLS, too. What MTA is WISPA running? The Postfix TLS/connection caching thing could be the problem. Maybe they're trying to hold the session open to deliver more messages? That seems like a Postfix problem to me. But that doesn't make sense because in all (normal)
Re: [AFMUG] TESTING: PLEASE IGNORE - Yeah Right !
Don't need to shout Paul. bp On 9/18/2014 11:46 AM, Paul McCall via Af wrote: Inserting a graphic... file:/Sbserver/MainData/pdmnet/Business%20Development/Marketing/Nader/Logos/PDMNet/logo.jpg Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] battery tester
Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your in. We use only AGM for our area. On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites? I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH. Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us. -- signature http://www.infowest.com/Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies.
Re: [AFMUG] TESTING: PLEASE IGNORE - Yeah Right !
Tried copying it from safari on iPhone into the gmail app. Probably a limitation of the iPhone not the list On Thursday, September 18, 2014, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: What kind of image was that Ryan? *From:* Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-bounces%2Bpaulm');=pdmnet@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pdmnet@afmug.com');] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray via Af *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:12 PM *To:* af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] TESTING: PLEASE IGNORE - Yeah Right ! On Thursday, September 18, 2014, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); wrote: Don't need to shout Paul. bp On 9/18/2014 11:46 AM, Paul McCall via Af wrote: Inserting a graphic… [image: file:/Sbserver/MainData/pdmnet/Business%20Development/Marketing/Nader/Logos/PDMNet/logo.jpg] Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] battery tester
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I meant the automotive type battery testers. I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar batteries. On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote: Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your in. We use only AGM for our area. On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites?� I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.� Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us. -- signature http://www.infowest.com/Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies. -- signature http://www.infowest.com/Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies.
Re: [AFMUG] battery tester
I'm very intrigued by these unusual characters I'm seeing in Randy's emails. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 09/18/2014 11:32 AM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Sorry if I wasn't clear.� I meant the automotive type battery testers.�� I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar batteries. On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote: Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your in. We use only AGM for our area. On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites?� I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.� Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us. -- signature http://www.infowest.com/Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies. -- signature http://www.infowest.com/Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies.
Re: [AFMUG] battery tester
They are part of the Taliban language set I think From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] battery tester I'm very intrigued by these unusual characters I'm seeing in Randy's emails. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com On 09/18/2014 11:32 AM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Sorry if I wasn't clear.� I meant the automotive type battery testers.�� I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar batteries. On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote: Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your in. We use only AGM for our area. On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites?� I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.� Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us. -- [cid:image001.png@01CFD356.5B664170]http://www.infowest.com/ Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.comhttp://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact rco...@infowest.commailto:rco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies. -- [cid:image001.png@01CFD356.5B664170]http://www.infowest.com/ Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.comhttp://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact rco...@infowest.commailto:rco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies.
Re: [AFMUG] battery tester
Is this where I rub lemon juice on my monitor? Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 09/18/2014 11:37 AM, James Howard via Af wrote: signature It�s a message! In code! *From:*Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds via Af *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:35 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] battery tester I'm very intrigued by these unusual characters I'm seeing in Randy's emails. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 09/18/2014 11:32 AM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Sorry if I wasn't clear.� I meant the automotive type battery testers.�� I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar batteries. On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote: Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your in. We use only AGM for our area. On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites?� I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.� Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us. -- http://www.infowest.com/ Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.com mailto:rco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies. -- http://www.infowest.com/ Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.com mailto:rco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies. *Total Control Panel* Login https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.net https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: 01488a426983-09d141e5-8bfc-45f0-acd6-2bb0cecd1069-000...@amazonses.com https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=2610236605domain=litewire.net Message Score: 2 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: High Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=2610236605domain=litewire.net this sender / Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=2610236605domain=litewire.net this sender enterprise-wide Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2610236605domain=litewire.net amazonses.com / Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2610236605domain=litewire.net amazonses.com enterprise-wide /This message was delivered because the content filter score did not exceed your filter level./
Re: [AFMUG] battery tester
signatureTelemetry. Just watch the slope of the discharge voltage at night. I have tried to use impedance meters several times at different companies and cannot get results that predict failures. If you have a battery that should last several days, disconnect the solar panels and watch the telemetry. From: Randy Cosby via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] battery tester Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites? I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH. Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us. -- Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact rco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies.
Re: [AFMUG] battery tester
And hold it over a flame... Eric From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+ecrogers=precisionds@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] battery tester Is this where I rub lemon juice on my monitor? Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 09/18/2014 11:37 AM, James Howard via Af wrote: It�s a message! �In code! � From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] battery tester � I'm very intrigued by these unusual characters I'm seeing in Randy's emails. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 09/18/2014 11:32 AM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Sorry if I wasn't clear.� I meant the automotive type battery testers.�� I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar batteries. On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote: Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your in. We use only AGM for our area. On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites?� I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.� Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us. -- http://www.infowest.com/ Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information.� � Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact rco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies. � � � -- http://www.infowest.com/ Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information.� � Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact rco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies. � Total Control Panel Login https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.net https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: 01488a426983-09d141e5-8bfc-45f0-acd6-2bb0cecd1069-000...@amazonses.com https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=2610236605domain=litewire.net Message Score: 2 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: High Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=2610236605domain=litewire.net this sender / Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=2610236605domain=litewire.net this sender enterprise-wide Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2610236605domain=litewire.net amazonses.com / Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2610236605domain=litewire.net amazonses.com enterprise-wide This message was delivered because the content filter score did not exceed your filter level. �
Re: [AFMUG] battery tester
You must be on a Mac. Those things always seem to be inserting weird characters. bp On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Sorry if I wasn't clear.� I meant the automotive type battery testers.�� I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar batteries. On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote: Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your in. We use only AGM for our area. On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites?� I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.� Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us. -- signature http://www.infowest.com/Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies. -- signature http://www.infowest.com/Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies.
[AFMUG] PTP650
Can the PTP650 do split TX and RX freqs? (example:Tx on 5740, RX on 5800)
Re: [AFMUG] PTP650
Since 2002 Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr On 9/18/14, 4:26 PM, Dan Petermann via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Can the PTP650 do split TX and RX freqs? (example:Tx on 5740, RX on 5800)
Re: [AFMUG] battery tester
Nope, PC - Thunderbird. On 9/18/2014 2:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: You must be on a Mac.� Those things always seem to be inserting weird characters. bp On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Sorry if I wasn't clear.� I meant the automotive type battery testers.�� I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar batteries. On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote: Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your in. We use only AGM for our area. On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites?� I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.� Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us.
Re: [AFMUG] battery tester
Weird, Does this just happen on double spaces? On 9/18/2014 2:31 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Nope, PC -� Thunderbird. On 9/18/2014 2:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: You must be on a Mac.� Those things always seem to be inserting weird characters. bp On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Sorry if I wasn't clear.� I meant the automotive type battery testers.�� I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar batteries. On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote: Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your in. We use only AGM for our area. On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites?� I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.� Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us. -- signature http://www.infowest.com/Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies.
Re: [AFMUG] battery tester
Test . Double Space. (thunderbird 31.1.1) Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 09/18/2014 12:33 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Weird, Does this just happen on double� spaces? On 9/18/2014 2:31 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Nope, PC -� Thunderbird. On 9/18/2014 2:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: You must be on a Mac.� Those things always seem to be inserting weird characters. bp On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Sorry if I wasn't clear.� I meant the automotive type battery testers.�� I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar batteries. On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote: Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your in. We use only AGM for our area. On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites?� I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.� Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us. -- signature http://www.infowest.com/Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies.
Re: [AFMUG] battery tester
What happens if you only use double spaces? bp On 9/18/2014 1:33 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Weird, Does this just happen on double� spaces? On 9/18/2014 2:31 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Nope, PC -� Thunderbird. On 9/18/2014 2:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: You must be on a Mac.� Those things always seem to be inserting weird characters. bp On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Sorry if I wasn't clear.� I meant the automotive type battery testers.�� I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar batteries. On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote: Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your in. We use only AGM for our area. On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites?� I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.� Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us. -- signature http://www.infowest.com/Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies.
Re: [AFMUG] battery tester
This didn't use to happen? Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 09/18/2014 12:51 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: L O L ! bp On 9/18/2014 1:47 PM, James Howard via Af wrote: signature It doesn�t appear to like double spaces. Apparently takes much longer for the message to come through as well. I guess this tells us which side of the discussion Paul was on about 2 spaces after a period! *From:*Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince via Af *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:45 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] battery tester What� happens� if� you� only� use� double� spaces? bp On 9/18/2014 1:33 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Weird, Does this just happen on double� spaces? On 9/18/2014 2:31 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Nope, PC -� Thunderbird. On 9/18/2014 2:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: You must be on a Mac.� Those things always seem to be inserting weird characters. bp On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Sorry if I wasn't clear.� I meant the automotive type battery testers.�� I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar batteries. On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote: Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your in. We use only AGM for our area. On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites?� I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.� Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us. -- http://www.infowest.com/ Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.com mailto:rco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies. *Total Control Panel* Login https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.net https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: 01488a830ca3-6bef6b15-489d-4c2f-9c0c-8745753ffbb5-000...@amazonses.com https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=2610622024domain=litewire.net Message Score: 2 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: High Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=2610622024domain=litewire.net this sender / Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=2610622024domain=litewire.net this sender enterprise-wide Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2610622024domain=litewire.net amazonses.com / Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2610622024domain=litewire.net amazonses.com enterprise-wide /This message was delivered because the content filter score did not exceed your filter level./
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP AP mounting
Here is your fix. http://www.rfelements.com/en/products/brackets/easybracket-for-epmp/ -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+gregwosborn=gmail@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Head via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP AP mounting My 2.4 ePMP Cambium sectors do not have the pocket for the GPS puck. The KP antennas were supposed to come with a box for the radio which sticks to the back of the sector, a little ghetto I know. On 9/16/2014 3:30 PM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote: When I bought a 2.4 ePMP AP awhile ago, the Cambium sector antennas were out of stock, so I ended up buying a KP Performance sector antenna on somebody's recommendation. Then that project got shelved for 3 monthsand I wish I had known that would happen because I would have just waited for the Cambium sector. Here's my problem with the 3rd party antenna: What do you mount the AP too? It's clearly designed to mount to the Cambium sector and not really to anything else. And then what do you do with the little magnetic GPS antenna? It fits into a pocket on the Cambium sector antenna that I don't have. Is it even weatherproof on its own?
Re: [AFMUG] battery tester
Apparently Randy wins the prize for being the first one to put a double space after a punctuation mark. Most of us just use run on sentences or don't use punctuation apparently. From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] battery tester This didn't use to happen? Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com%3e On 09/18/2014 12:51 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: L O L ! bp On 9/18/2014 1:47 PM, James Howard via Af wrote: signature It doesn�t appear to like double spaces. Apparently takes much longer for the message to come through as well. I guess this tells us which side of the discussion Paul was on about 2 spaces after a period! *From:*Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince via Af *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:45 PM *To:* af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] battery tester What� happens� if� you� only� use� double� spaces? bp On 9/18/2014 1:33 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Weird, Does this just happen on double� spaces? On 9/18/2014 2:31 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Nope, PC -� Thunderbird. On 9/18/2014 2:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: You must be on a Mac.� Those things always seem to be inserting weird characters. bp On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Sorry if I wasn't clear.� I meant the automotive type battery testers.�� I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar batteries. On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote: Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your in. We use only AGM for our area. On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites?� I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.� Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us. -- http://www.infowest.com/http://www.infowest.com/%3e Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/http://www.infowest.com/%3e This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.commailto:contactrco...@infowest.com mailto:rco...@infowest.commailto:rco...@infowest.com%3e by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies. *Total Control Panel* Login https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.nethttps://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net%3e To: ja...@litewire.netmailto:ja...@litewire.net https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.nethttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net%3e From: 01488a830ca3-6bef6b15-489d-4c2f-9c0c-8745753ffbb5-000...@amazonses.commailto:01488a830ca3-6bef6b15-489d-4c2f-9c0c-8745753ffbb5-000...@amazonses.com https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=2610622024domain=litewire.nethttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=2610622024domain=litewire.net%3e Message Score: 2 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: High Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=2610622024domain=litewire.nethttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=2610622024domain=litewire.net%3e this sender / Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=2610622024domain=litewire.nethttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=2610622024domain=litewire.net%3e this sender enterprise-wide Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2610622024domain=litewire.nethttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2610622024domain=litewire.net%3e amazonses.com / Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2610622024domain=litewire.nethttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2610622024domain=litewire.net%3e amazonses.com enterprise-wide /This message was delivered because the content filter score did not exceed your filter level./ Total Control Panel Loginhttps://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To:
Re: [AFMUG] battery tester
signaturehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specials_(Unicode_block)#Replacement_character From: Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] battery tester What� happens� if� you� only� use� double� spaces? bpOn 9/18/2014 1:33 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Weird, Does this just happen on double� spaces? On 9/18/2014 2:31 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Nope, PC -� Thunderbird. On 9/18/2014 2:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: You must be on a Mac.� Those things always seem to be inserting weird characters. bpOn 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Sorry if I wasn't clear.� I meant the automotive type battery testers.�� I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar batteries. On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote: Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your in. We use only AGM for our area. On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites?� I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.� Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us. -- Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact rco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies.
Re: [AFMUG] battery tester
まあ、少なくともそのこと和食 Paul ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] battery tester It doesn’t appear to like double spaces. Apparently takes much longer for the message to come through as well. I guess this tells us which side of the discussion Paul was on about 2 spaces after a period! From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:45 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] battery tester What� happens� if� you� only� use� double� spaces? bp On 9/18/2014 1:33 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Weird, Does this just happen on double� spaces? On 9/18/2014 2:31 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Nope, PC -� Thunderbird. On 9/18/2014 2:22 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: You must be on a Mac.� Those things always seem to be inserting weird characters. bp On 9/18/2014 12:32 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Sorry if I wasn't clear.� I meant the automotive type battery testers.�� I'm looking for something more appropriate for solar batteries. On 9/18/2014 1:20 PM, David via Af wrote: Automotive batteries would degrade rapidly depending on what region your in. We use only AGM for our area. On 09/18/2014 02:06 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites?� I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH.� Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us. -- [cid:image001.png@01CFD366.E0E7B440]http://www.infowest.com/ Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.comhttp://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact rco...@infowest.commailto:rco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies. Total Control Panel Loginhttps://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.nethttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: 01488a830ca3-6bef6b15-489d-4c2f-9c0c-8745753ffbb5-000...@amazonses.comhttps://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=2610622024domain=litewire.net Message Score: 2 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: High Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=2610622024domain=litewire.net this sender / Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-address=1rID=242260993aID=2610622024domain=litewire.net this sender enterprise-wide Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2610622024domain=litewire.net amazonses.com / Blockhttps://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2610622024domain=litewire.net amazonses.com enterprise-wide This message was delivered because the content filter score did not exceed your filter level.
Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium
Hi George - I know this was a long time ago (and has been an even longer time coming), but attached is what I sent after AF2014. What we have now is the file format, it will be JSON based and there will be a published spec. It will also work with DHCP Option 66. For Zero Touch Config type of operation, we are leveraging the ICC feature in that once a radio is on 13.3, if a radio registers via ICC, it will turn on DHCP and request Option 66. That option can be populated with a URL to the config file (HTTP or TFTP) that will be retrieved and applied and if a reboot is required, the reboot will be applied. Once the SM comes back if it had to reboot, it will be on the new configuration. You will also be able to backup/restore the file via the webpage and SNMP and read it and edit it. Again, this is coming in 13.3 release and we'll be discussing some things at WISPAPALOOZA related to this. Obviously an SM needs to be on 13.3 to support this, so the fully promise of Zero Touch Config won't be there until SMs are shipping with 13.3 on them. That is the update we have to give you at this point. Regards, -Aaron -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+aaron.schneider=cambiumnetworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium I know a TFTP config download kind of thing was talked about before. But it would be nice if we could manually apply a config template file directly through the SM GUI, so I can have the guys get new or recovered radios set up without having to mess with too many things (AP, TFTP server, etc), just upload file.. apply, reboot, whatever. On 9/18/2014 10:00 AM, Aaron Schneider via Af wrote: Hi Bill - 1) coming in 13.2 2) coming in 13.2, NAT table size is configurable from 1024 - 8192 entries, there is a configuration OID, and will be a current table size oid 3) possibly coming in 13.3, can't promise that yet 4) coming in 13.3, planning to have something at WISPAPALOOZA to demo, more than just a config file. I sent some information about this awhile back. 5) we are working on an external frame calc tool but not sure of the timeline of that. Will make sure to add this idea to that list (point to an AP to use as a starting point). I'll send more details on #4 soon and we will be publishing the config file format. Regards, -Aaron -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+aaron.schneider=cambiumnetworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 6:31 PM To: Motorola III Subject: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium Please let us know if: 1. The femtocell fix is in the pipe (or not) 2. There will be a trap on NAT table full, or at least an OID that shows the number of entries in the NAT table 3. As an alternative to #2, perhaps a way to limit the number of MAC addresses allowed behind an SM 4. A text-based configuration file 5. A do this timing that lets us just set an AP to match some other AP as closely as possible by specifying the appropriate frame dimensions (or maybe just the other APs IP address (now that would be cool) TNX -- bp ---BeginMessage--- What isn't completely defined is the actual format of the file, we are determining that now and looking at XML and JSON. What is determined is that you will have the following capabilities: *Straight backup of everything from a radio, including Calibration values and feature keys. This backup can only be fully reapplied to the radio that it was pulled from, since it contains calibration and feature key that is tied to that specific device *Backup of a general configuration that includes everything else. This backup can be used as a golden config where you set all of your common settings and can then reapply this backup to any radio of the same model. *Retrieval of this configuration file via DHCP Option 66 and/or a new RADIUS VSA. This would point to the file to download and the full configuration would be applied during registration (RADIUS) or DHCP. o Can be used in conjunction with the ICC feature to allow vanilla radios to be installed, get their config, and then re-register with the proper configuration *The general backup file will be readable and editable, (and generateable, is that a word?) so that you can modify it or generate it on the fly for general configuration items (i.e. not device specific items like calibration/feature key/etc, but everything else). *The format and interface of the file will be published so that you know what the content means and how to construct your own. Does that help clear it up a bit? Regards, -Aaron From: af@afmug.com [mailto:af@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Conlin Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 11:02 AM To: af@afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] PTP650
yes. roland Can the PTP650 do split TX and RX freqs? (example:Tx on 5740, RX on 5800)
Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium
but wouldnt you have to turn on dhcp through the gui for this to pull down? On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Aaron Schneider via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Hi George - I know this was a long time ago (and has been an even longer time coming), but attached is what I sent after AF2014. What we have now is the file format, it will be JSON based and there will be a published spec. It will also work with DHCP Option 66. For Zero Touch Config type of operation, we are leveraging the ICC feature in that once a radio is on 13.3, if a radio registers via ICC, it will turn on DHCP and request Option 66. That option can be populated with a URL to the config file (HTTP or TFTP) that will be retrieved and applied and if a reboot is required, the reboot will be applied. Once the SM comes back if it had to reboot, it will be on the new configuration. You will also be able to backup/restore the file via the webpage and SNMP and read it and edit it. Again, this is coming in 13.3 release and we'll be discussing some things at WISPAPALOOZA related to this. Obviously an SM needs to be on 13.3 to support this, so the fully promise of Zero Touch Config won't be there until SMs are shipping with 13.3 on them. That is the update we have to give you at this point. Regards, -Aaron -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+aaron.schneider=cambiumnetworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium I know a TFTP config download kind of thing was talked about before. But it would be nice if we could manually apply a config template file directly through the SM GUI, so I can have the guys get new or recovered radios set up without having to mess with too many things (AP, TFTP server, etc), just upload file.. apply, reboot, whatever. On 9/18/2014 10:00 AM, Aaron Schneider via Af wrote: Hi Bill - 1) coming in 13.2 2) coming in 13.2, NAT table size is configurable from 1024 - 8192 entries, there is a configuration OID, and will be a current table size oid 3) possibly coming in 13.3, can't promise that yet 4) coming in 13.3, planning to have something at WISPAPALOOZA to demo, more than just a config file. I sent some information about this awhile back. 5) we are working on an external frame calc tool but not sure of the timeline of that. Will make sure to add this idea to that list (point to an AP to use as a starting point). I'll send more details on #4 soon and we will be publishing the config file format. Regards, -Aaron -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+aaron.schneider=cambiumnetworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 6:31 PM To: Motorola III Subject: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium Please let us know if: 1. The femtocell fix is in the pipe (or not) 2. There will be a trap on NAT table full, or at least an OID that shows the number of entries in the NAT table 3. As an alternative to #2, perhaps a way to limit the number of MAC addresses allowed behind an SM 4. A text-based configuration file 5. A do this timing that lets us just set an AP to match some other AP as closely as possible by specifying the appropriate frame dimensions (or maybe just the other APs IP address (now that would be cool) TNX -- bp -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] battery tester
Ah, figured this out. Batteries have been getting down to 20c around noon, temperature compensation of .12V per degree below 25c, 56.6V is where we top out. Just right. On 9/18/2014 3:35 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Before anyone mentions it, I know some of these batteries are being charged too high. I have my charger (Tristar MPPT-60) set for gel battery voltages, and the combined voltage is supposed to top out at 56v. It looks like we're getting a little higher than that, I need to figure out why. On 9/18/2014 3:14 PM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote: Getting back on topic (and trying to avoid double-spaces)... I have two strings of four GEL batteries, all of them the same age. They are all being charged by the same solar panels/controller. Positive lead is connected to battery 1, negative to battery 4. Load is connected the same way. I am now monitoring each battery separately with a pair of sitemonitor 4-input modules. One battery I know is bad - 1.1 (bank 1 battery 1). It drops under 12v at night. The graphs are puzzling to me. The other batteries I'm not sure on. Each seems to have a different/profile slope when charging, but similar (but not identical) slope when discharging. Take a look: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4059343/graff%20voltage%20graps.png Anyone care to venture a guess as to why we're seeing these differences? On 9/18/2014 1:57 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: signature Telemetry. Just watch the slope of the discharge voltage at night. I have tried to use impedance meters several times at different companies and cannot get results that predict failures. If you have a battery that should last several days, disconnect the solar panels and watch the telemetry. *From:* Randy Cosby via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:06 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] battery tester Does anyone have a recommended battery tester for AGM and Gel batteries at solar sites? I have batteries from 100AH to 225AH. Most of the automotive models seem to be concerned with cold cranking amps, pretty irrelevant for us. -- http://www.infowest.com/Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies. -- signature http://www.infowest.com/Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies. -- signature http://www.infowest.com/Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies. -- signature http://www.infowest.com/Randy Cosby InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 infowest.com http://www.infowest.com/ This e-mail message contains information from InfoWest, Inc and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain privileged, proprietary or confidential information. Unauthorized use, distribution, review or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contactrco...@infowest.com by reply email and destroy the original message, all attachments and copies.
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 10 mhz Channel width 2.4
Greg: 10 MHz Channel support is coming in the next software release (R2.3). That will be for both 5 and 2.4 GHz. We expect to officially release it before the end of October and open it up for beta 2 - 3 weeks prior to then. Regards, John Butler Cambium Networks From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+john.butler=cambiumnetworks@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Greg Osborn via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP 10 mhz Channel width 2.4 Anyone have any idea when we are going to get 10 mhz cw on 2.4 ePMP? As soon as we do, I'm building out a tower with it to see how it functions. 20 mhz cw is just not practical for us. -- Thank you, Greg Osborn Tech Support and Field Service Manager OnlyInternet.Net 1.800.363.0989 [http://home.onlyinternet.net/images/social_facebook.png]http://www.facebook.com/onlyinternet [http://home.onlyinternet.net/images/social_twitter.png] http://www.twitter.com/oibw [https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12716696/OIlogo.jpg] http://www.onlyinternet.net/
Re: [AFMUG] 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility
DNSproblems maybe? It's still lightning fast for me. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 09/18/2014 03:34 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: Also it seems like Google has become sloow. The links are now some humongous long string and my suspicion is they are doing a lot more data mining now when you click on a link, like vacuuming all the data out of your computer before sending your browser to the page in the search results. It used to be Google was lightning fast, and the search results linked directly to the page. I’m probably wrong about the why, but something has definitely changed over the last year or so. *From:* Eric Markow via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:29 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility Totally agree that Google search results have been getting worse and worse, especially when I’m just looking for INFORMATION, not necessarily to purchase something. I generally can’t stand Microsoft, but perhaps I’ll give Bing a try. *From:*Af [mailto:af-bounces+eric=belairinternet@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Conlin via Af *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility Are 1000BASE-LX SFP modules compatible with 1000BASE-LX-10 SFP modules? Specifically talking SM fiber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabit_Ethernet#1000BASE-LX says LX-10 is good for 10km whereas LX can only do 5km. I get that LX-10 has twice the range due to “better optics”, but at distances of less than 5km are they compatible / interchangeable? All specs I can find match up implying they are but I can’t specifically find word on compatibility. Is it just me or has Google become nothing more than a shopping mall? It is getting much hard to find information other than prices. /rantoff PC Blaze Broadband This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient,please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient,please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal.
Re: [AFMUG] Google is Slow WAS 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility
(this) Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 09/18/2014 03:40 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote: It might be your internet is slow (ducks)! My google runs lighting fast and the links when I go to them or hover over them don’t contain any back tracking. Maybe you have cookie trackers or malware? Maybe your DNS isn’t optimized? These are all things I’ve noticed on others machines that make the fastest internet look super slow. Also, routers. Don’t get me started on routers *From:* Af [mailto:af-bounces+sterling=avative@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof via Af *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:35 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility Also it seems like Google has become sloow. The links are now some humongous long string and my suspicion is they are doing a lot more data mining now when you click on a link, like vacuuming all the data out of your computer before sending your browser to the page in the search results. It used to be Google was lightning fast, and the search results linked directly to the page. I’m probably wrong about the why, but something has definitely changed over the last year or so. *From:*Eric Markow via Af mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent:*Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:29 PM *To:*af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility Totally agree that Google search results have been getting worse and worse, especially when I’m just looking for INFORMATION, not necessarily to purchase something. I generally can’t stand Microsoft, but perhaps I’ll give Bing a try. *From:*Af [mailto:af-bounces+eric=belairinternet@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Conlin via Af *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] 1000BASE-LX SFP compatibility Are 1000BASE-LX SFP modules compatible with 1000BASE-LX-10 SFP modules? Specifically talking SM fiber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabit_Ethernet#1000BASE-LX says LX-10 is good for 10km whereas LX can only do 5km. I get that LX-10 has twice the range due to “better optics”, but at distances of less than 5km are they compatible / interchangeable? All specs I can find match up implying they are but I can’t specifically find word on compatibility. Is it just me or has Google become nothing more than a shopping mall? It is getting much hard to find information other than prices. /rantoff PC Blaze Broadband This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient,please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient,please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal.
Re: [AFMUG] PTP650
I know its probably not feasible, but I would really like them to support 45mhz Tx and 10mhz Rx channel sizes as well. Matthew Jenkins SmarterBroadband m...@sbbinc.net 530.272.4000 On 09/18/2014 02:43 PM, Roland Houin via Af wrote: yes. roland Can the PTP650 do split TX and RX freqs? (example:Tx on 5740, RX on 5800)
Re: [AFMUG] Exalt?
What about stock? Support for existing clients? Jaime Solorza On Sep 18, 2014 6:59 PM, Jose Burgos via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yes, I heard that they closed their doors two (2) days ago. Sent from Jose's iPhone - Pinnacle Wireless On Sep 18, 2014, at 8:57 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I heard a rumor that Exalt went out of business. Can anyone confirm or deny?
Re: [AFMUG] Exalt?
So were they just dumping inventory with the recent G2 promotions? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Jose Burgos via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yes, I heard that they closed their doors two (2) days ago. Sent from Jose's iPhone - Pinnacle Wireless On Sep 18, 2014, at 8:57 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I heard a rumor that Exalt went out of business. Can anyone confirm or deny?
Re: [AFMUG] New toy
Awesome Jaime, How much ? which model? From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+paulm=pdmnet@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:35 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] New toy We picked this up in Dallas at Hilti shop for 1k. Brand new!!! Drove 10 ft grounding rod in less than a minute. My trusty fence pole driver will always be in my work truck just in case. Jaime Solorza
Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium
OK, so clarify the option 66 URL part. What makes sense to me is a single option 66 statement on the DHCP server like I said below. The SM will fill in its ESN/MAC as the file name to pull from the HTTP or TFTP server. This is how most VoIP handset/ATA provisioning works. On the PBX or switch, your station config files would reside in some directory and the handset would request 001122334455.cfg or 00-11-22-33-44-55.cfg. This is exactly how zero-touch auto-provision works, at least with the VoIP crap I've messed with. What I'm looking for is how to tie X device to X customer in say a billing/support/provisioning system. And if the SM dies, then rename the file with the new ESN. So if this is not the way the option 66 mechanism will function, then yeah, RADIUS VSA for the URL will be the only other way. I think it would be easier to just do RADIUS attributes for all of the config, but we've had that discussion before. Off my rocker now? :) On 9/18/2014 8:46 PM, Aaron Schneider via Af wrote: You are securely attached to your rocker and very comfortable. That's pretty much how it will go but the dhcp server will provide the filename via option66 string within the url itself. Another option would be radius profiles with config file url delivered via a VSA. Not sure that will get into first release. But we are working on it. You are correct on ICC operation, once a non default CC config is in place, ICC will never be used on SM even if it is left enabled. But you can very easily set ICC to disabled in the config file. Aaron Original message From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af Date:09/18/2014 6:48 PM (GMT-06:00) To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dear Cambium I'm guessing it's going to work like this: 13.3 SM registers via ICC. It switches on DHCP and looks for Option 66. Then it contacts the HTTP/TFTP server with a request string like http://server-IP/$ESN.cfg just like it works with IP phones and things like that. ICC doesn't do random stupid things anymore. That was with v11.1. Once the SM is configured with color codes other than CC1=0 and the reset zero and disabled, ICC is effectively disabled. The second part is, if your default SM registered to my AP via ICC, I wouldn't have a config file for its ESN to send it. Well, maybe I could, but why. I'm sure there's always a way for things to go wrong. But I need a much faster and automated way to do provisioning. I'd like to give the guys a basic template that they keep on their field PCs to load into new radios to set up things like default QoS, protocol filters, admin password, etc. RADIUS handles only basic stuff like QoS and VLAN. Maybe I'm completely off my rocker here. On 9/18/2014 6:21 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: so if a device connects to icc, it will turn on dhcp client? so if we are using this, we will want to remember to have part of the dump config be to disable ICC or if a deployed unit happenned to hit ICC on a different AP, as has been the case in the past, it will become defaulted, or at least defaulted to the configured default configuration? This could be problematic, stranding a subscriber if a competitor is also running option 66 via ICC couldnt it? or is there a way to mitigate that? On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 6:04 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote: That is freakin awesome! I think Matt said something about a RADIUS VSA option too. RADIUS and DHCP option 66. Both are good with me. On 9/18/2014 4:41 PM, Aaron Schneider via Af wrote: Hi George - I know this was a long time ago (and has been an even longer time coming), but attached is what I sent after AF2014. What we have now is the file format, it will be JSON based and there will be a published spec. It will also work with DHCP Option 66. For Zero Touch Config type of operation, we are leveraging the ICC feature in that once a radio is on 13.3, if a radio registers via ICC, it will turn on DHCP and request Option 66. That option can be populated with a URL to the config file (HTTP or TFTP) that will be retrieved and applied and if a reboot is required, the reboot will be applied. Once the SM comes back if it had to reboot, it will be on the new configuration. You will also be able to backup/restore the file via the webpage and SNMP and read it and edit it. Again, this is coming in 13.3 release and we'll be discussing some things at WISPAPALOOZA related to this. Obviously an SM needs to be on 13.3 to support this, so the fully promise of Zero Touch Config won't be there until SMs are shipping with 13.3 on them. That is the update we have to give you at this point. Regards, -Aaron -Original Message-
